When Control Plane reached out they said "we want you to have fun with the video". Then I recorded 3 hours of footage coding Rust and TypeScript, so I guess that's my idea of fun? Enjoy the series!
Deno Deploy is great, and it has 0 lock in. its basically identical to Deno runtime on your machine, just missing a few APIs. It deploys way faster than control plane also
Yea, the deploy time is crazy, just several seconds. The primitive is V8 isolates instead of Docker containers, so there are some restrictions, but if it works on Deno Deploy it'll work on your own computers too.
The next video is going to probably put deploy times on par with Deno Deploy. I'm sure it's more expensive to deploy to all of the control plane regions compared to deploying to all of the Deno Deploy regions tho
@@TomusMedia You know what, doing a pricing comparison would be interesting. I'm not sure who would come out on top because Deno Deploy comes with a free tier... but they're also selling something with value added (those fast deploys). Both benefit from economies on scale, and I'd expect Control Plane to be more affordable simply because it's built over lower-level primitives.
@@fasterthanlime I'm not so sure. There is inherently more scale in Deno deploy's architecture, JavaScript containers (v8 isolates) are cheaper than Linux containers. They also scale to zero without much cold start impact, not sure if control plane can compete with that feature either
Ooh that would've been smarter than what I tried. I tried using deno cache and I think it uses a system cache (as opposed to a per-project cache), which wouldn't have worked with the deploy strategy I'm going for. Although.. I could run "deno cache" before switching to the new deploy. So many missed opportunities 😭 I mean... exercises left to the reader.
The main thing I've found against Deno Deploy is that it doesn't run on full Deno. It runs on their own restricted build of Deno which has missing APIs and there's no way to test an app on their build without deploying! Also last time I looked there was no way to pin the "Deno Deploy" version so there's a risk of future breakage...
Yeah, see I'm not too surprised by that kind of limitations/breakage. Note that I've also been struggling to pin versions of Deno packages on full Deno as well..
I've seen you use many intersting cli tools in your videos, a small video listing your favourite tools will be very helpful, and thanks for the awsome content 🙏
love your stuff! haven't noticed this before in your videos, but either your microphone is picking up on the vibrations caused by your typing, or you've got the thunkiest mechanical switches I've ever heard
Yeah the mic arm is pretty strained which might not help absorb shocks. I might want to add some pads under my keyboard or something. It's just a Logitech K120, it shouldn't be that noisy
I haven't tried it yet but I've used yew, for example. My experience is that iteration times are just not the same! And it wouldn't really work with the silly idea I have in mind 😇
@@fasterthanlime would definitely recommend giving it a try - it has some really cool things like html within macros. Also an excuse to use nix to bundle the WASM.
No, the point is to deploy an interpreted language without having to recompile anything. You could argue typescript is compiled, but... That's not nearly as expensive as building Rust, for example.
Very cool! Although I’m amazed how terrible software is these days. Despite the so called unit tests, and CI/CD as he starts it up and is directly confronted with errors that apparently a lot of people also had. So how do this devs test their crap? Probably not on a clean VM! This happens so often these days. In the last software just worked. But after 1996 something happens (Windows95 😂) and the world went 2:30 nuts. Up to the point that even Apple and Linux distros have updates that just cripple systems. I find issues in our code base all the time and our other team: “we don’t have that”. But when we go to production we run, solidly! When they go they get those edge cases that we already tested. Only put software out when you know and can guarantee its working! It’s not a race! It’s giving the best stable product and user experience. I would never drive a car or fly, If they engineered and tested planes and cars like most developers no create and test software!
Yeah... my VM's not clean either, but I did go the extra mile of doing the research on a separate computer and then installing most things from scratch here. It's a delicate balance between "we spend forever setting things up" vs "I magically have everything working on my machine and you don't".
@@fasterthanlime yeah that “huh it works in my system” is so recognizable. This is why I’m very happy with serverless and Docker. Every variable is taken out of the equation.
@@fasterthanlime oh btw I adore your channel, sort of similar content to mine (hacking games and some more advanced coding)! I came across your awesome channel by accident because I looked at system monitor lib in rust. To replace some very old C code that we use to monitor Linux using the proc file system. And this actually works perfectly also on windows (much to my amazement). Great library! And a great find by you and brilliant funny presentation. Keep it up!!’
You know how sometimes a project is so large it seems unsurmountable? That was the case here. I had spent so much time already researching this, training for it, recording it, and editing it.. my editing software was crumbling under the sheer amount of cuts, it was becoming unmanageable. Releasing the first part allows me to start a weekly schedule, and I'm now almost done with editing the other parts. Also, TH-cam's algorithm really punishes releasing "one really long video very rarely", and I won't be able to release other kinds of videos in the next month or two since I'll be out for surgery, then recovery. Also, these videos are intense and packed with a bunch of knowledge/showing off tools - it's nice to be able to take a breather between them and to link to specific ones if you want to share them. I hope that explains it. If you're still sad about it, then so be it. For me it was the best way to make this work and protect my health.
@@fasterthanlime > I had spent so much time already researching this, training for it, recording it, and editing it.. You made it look so effortless, I would never have guessed what you reveal here. I'm not OP, but anyway thanks for your thorough explanation and thoughtful and calm way to react to a sloppy negative comment.
When Control Plane reached out they said "we want you to have fun with the video". Then I recorded 3 hours of footage coding Rust and TypeScript, so I guess that's my idea of fun? Enjoy the series!
Nice😅
I think you mean Rust™️
😢
I'm seriously rooting for Deno, because look how quickly you got a Fresh project set up. It's time for Node to go away.
Have you seen bun
heard about that
@@Antonio-fo4fl almost a scam
@boohba js haters will never make sense to me
@boohba typescript
Deno content? Awesome. I tried Fresh when it came out but it seemed a bit rough, curious to see how it works for you. ▶️
You baited me so hard for the rust content yet there was NONE TO BE FOUND. Awesome content as always tho ❤❤
It's coming, I swear!
Nice to see what is your dev workflow (IDE, tools and tips and tricks)!
Great video! As always, I learned a lot, and the sponsorship was perfectly relevant and didn't spoil the video.
Deno Deploy is great, and it has 0 lock in. its basically identical to Deno runtime on your machine, just missing a few APIs. It deploys way faster than control plane also
Yea, the deploy time is crazy, just several seconds. The primitive is V8 isolates instead of Docker containers, so there are some restrictions, but if it works on Deno Deploy it'll work on your own computers too.
The next video is going to probably put deploy times on par with Deno Deploy. I'm sure it's more expensive to deploy to all of the control plane regions compared to deploying to all of the Deno Deploy regions tho
@@TomusMedia You know what, doing a pricing comparison would be interesting. I'm not sure who would come out on top because Deno Deploy comes with a free tier... but they're also selling something with value added (those fast deploys). Both benefit from economies on scale, and I'd expect Control Plane to be more affordable simply because it's built over lower-level primitives.
@@fasterthanlime I'm not so sure. There is inherently more scale in Deno deploy's architecture, JavaScript containers (v8 isolates) are cheaper than Linux containers. They also scale to zero without much cold start impact, not sure if control plane can compete with that feature either
you can use deno vendor to save all dependencies to local project
Ooh that would've been smarter than what I tried. I tried using deno cache and I think it uses a system cache (as opposed to a per-project cache), which wouldn't have worked with the deploy strategy I'm going for. Although.. I could run "deno cache" before switching to the new deploy. So many missed opportunities 😭 I mean... exercises left to the reader.
The main thing I've found against Deno Deploy is that it doesn't run on full Deno. It runs on their own restricted build of Deno which has missing APIs and there's no way to test an app on their build without deploying! Also last time I looked there was no way to pin the "Deno Deploy" version so there's a risk of future breakage...
Yeah, see I'm not too surprised by that kind of limitations/breakage. Note that I've also been struggling to pin versions of Deno packages on full Deno as well..
How do you scale windows like that?
I'm using a tool called AltSnap: github.com/RamonUnch/AltSnap
I've seen you use many intersting cli tools in your videos, a small video listing your favourite tools will be very helpful, and thanks for the awsome content 🙏
Fun fact: Deno Deploy is the underlying infrastructure behind Netlify Edge Functions and Supabase Functions.
That wasn't always the case for Netlify 😬
awesome!
I'm suffering with slow deploys!!! When will part 2 come out so I can be blazingly fast?
I've scheduled all 7 parts weekly on tuesday!
how pro resizing very fast 😮
Thoughts on the proposed Trademark policies on Rust™?
I'm confident it'll get fixed. I'm not super happy about the state of this comment section right now, but hey, engagement goes brrr.
if only Deno really good at being compatible with Node, it's a bit too much of a hussle to migrate
How did you resize the window on 10:15?
Yeah I was wondering the same 🤔
alt+right click on some Desktop Enviroments, idk on windows though.
That's AltSnap on Windows. On macOS I use Easy Move+Resize, and on Linux most desktop environments have that functionality built-in.
Easy Move+Resize is a godsend
@@fasterthanlime OMG, I love it. As a KDE user, I've never been aware of Super+Right Drag (I do use Super+Left Drag regularly). This is quite nice.
The amount of random stuff I learned from this video is over 9000.
That's the spirit! I cut a lot of nonsense still, but I'm trying to leave some learning experiences in :P
I'm confused is this official rust foundation content?
love your stuff! haven't noticed this before in your videos, but either your microphone is picking up on the vibrations caused by your typing, or you've got the thunkiest mechanical switches I've ever heard
Yeah the mic arm is pretty strained which might not help absorb shocks. I might want to add some pads under my keyboard or something. It's just a Logitech K120, it shouldn't be that noisy
As a front end guy when you talk about front end guys like we’re 8 I crack up.😅
Hey eight year olds don't make up a new acronym every week!
I wonder what extension you use to get the top bar in the right pane on 5:34
Sticky scroll? It's a built in setting. If that's what you mean.
@@gaweringo Ah nice, thanks!
Yup that's the one - it's very nice while browsing larger files.
Have you heard of Leptos?
I haven't tried it yet but I've used yew, for example. My experience is that iteration times are just not the same! And it wouldn't really work with the silly idea I have in mind 😇
@@fasterthanlime would definitely recommend giving it a try - it has some really cool things like html within macros. Also an excuse to use nix to bundle the WASM.
How do you so magically resize your windows?
It's a tool called AltSnap: github.com/RamonUnch/AltSnap
FYI, Deno is supposed to be pronounced like di-no, not de-no :)
I realized that while editing the video. Whoops!
Wouldn't Yew been an better fit?
No, the point is to deploy an interpreted language without having to recompile anything. You could argue typescript is compiled, but... That's not nearly as expensive as building Rust, for example.
Wow, rust foundation supports deno and fresh
This was also the first thing that came to my mind.
Very cool! Although I’m amazed how terrible software is these days. Despite the so called unit tests, and CI/CD as he starts it up and is directly confronted with errors that apparently a lot of people also had. So how do this devs test their crap? Probably not on a clean VM! This happens so often these days. In the last software just worked. But after 1996 something happens (Windows95 😂) and the world went 2:30 nuts. Up to the point that even Apple and Linux distros have updates that just cripple systems.
I find issues in our code base all the time and our other team: “we don’t have that”. But when we go to production we run, solidly! When they go they get those edge cases that we already tested. Only put software out when you know and can guarantee its working! It’s not a race! It’s giving the best stable product and user experience.
I would never drive a car or fly, If they engineered and tested planes and cars like most developers no create and test software!
Yeah... my VM's not clean either, but I did go the extra mile of doing the research on a separate computer and then installing most things from scratch here. It's a delicate balance between "we spend forever setting things up" vs "I magically have everything working on my machine and you don't".
@@fasterthanlime yeah that “huh it works in my system” is so recognizable.
This is why I’m very happy with serverless and Docker. Every variable is taken out of the equation.
@@fasterthanlime oh btw I adore your channel, sort of similar content to mine (hacking games and some more advanced coding)! I came across your awesome channel by accident because I looked at system monitor lib in rust. To replace some very old C code that we use to monitor Linux using the proc file system. And this actually works perfectly also on windows (much to my amazement). Great library! And a great find by you and brilliant funny presentation. Keep it up!!’
Oh so you're taking sponsorships. Making money I see. Happy for you! Hope someday it pays more than only your rent
What r dis?
I noticed your thumbnail has the Rust logo along with other logos. This is a no no from The Foundation TM. Please remove it.
That's Ferris, which is fine! Also the policy isn't final yet.
I sincerely hope this was a joke.
@@joranmulderij lol, obviously.
@@fasterthanlime just kidding! Keep up with good work! 🥂
OK you got my first downvote for just finishing the video when you actually got started.
Seriously? How can you do that?
You know how sometimes a project is so large it seems unsurmountable? That was the case here. I had spent so much time already researching this, training for it, recording it, and editing it.. my editing software was crumbling under the sheer amount of cuts, it was becoming unmanageable. Releasing the first part allows me to start a weekly schedule, and I'm now almost done with editing the other parts.
Also, TH-cam's algorithm really punishes releasing "one really long video very rarely", and I won't be able to release other kinds of videos in the next month or two since I'll be out for surgery, then recovery. Also, these videos are intense and packed with a bunch of knowledge/showing off tools - it's nice to be able to take a breather between them and to link to specific ones if you want to share them.
I hope that explains it. If you're still sad about it, then so be it. For me it was the best way to make this work and protect my health.
@@fasterthanlime > I had spent so much time already researching this, training for it, recording it, and editing it..
You made it look so effortless, I would never have guessed what you reveal here.
I'm not OP, but anyway thanks for your thorough explanation and thoughtful and calm way to react to a sloppy negative comment.