Concerning the full caster comp for the WF gnomeregan, keep in mind that it was also their compo for a quick lvl 40 rush. That's just two caster cleave who just blasted SM together probably, since it's the most efficient way to max level.
I've been having the best PvP experience of my life as a Solo Marksman Nightelf Hunter in the Bloomoon event. - Trackings & Eagle eye - Max range & Viper aspect - Traps in combat & other cc's - Feing Death + Shadow meld The perfect tools to run on the edge of raid/groups fighting eachother just to steal kills and finish players running away, I even run LoneWolf+SniperTraining for maximum snipage. Even if it's better to run groups to farm blood, it's way too freaking funnier that way xD
Two notable things : - I bought a Stranglethorn Lumber and turned in the quest in Arathi, it gives no reward. - I hit revered with Azeroth Commerce Authority, no new item at the vendor.
Just kill the trolls in the ruins/beach in the northern part + a little PvP action in between. No lagg, 200-300 blood/event or even more at higher lvl. Got my 15s in around 8 events at lvl 30 joining in with nice people that grinded to higher levels already.
I have some considerations regarding the STV PvP event. Please feel free to share any concerns, critiques, additions, or amendments. Once I get some feedback from you all, I'll try compile the best ideas into a practical model and post it on the blizz forums. Goals: DISCOURAGE MEANINGLESS PLAYER CONGESTION AND COMBAT, SUPPORT PARTY COHESION AND RECOVERY, AND ULTIMATELY BOLSTER IMMERSION. Suggestions: - REMOVE REZ ON CORPSE TIMER DURING STV PVP EVENT ENTIRELY - SPIRIT HEALERS TO HAVE REZ TIMER THAT COMPOUNDS UP TO 60 SECONDS AND APPLY A DEBUFF THAT DISABLES THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE BLOOD COINS, YIELD BLOOD COINS TO ENEMIES UPON DEATH, OR DEPOSIT THEM AT AN ALTAR FOR 60 SECONDS - PLAYERS ATTEMPTING TO REZ ON THEIR CORPSE WITHIN A SET RADIUS OF SPIRIT HEALERS MUST BE AFFECTED BY THE SAME PENALTIES I.E. REZ TIMER, BLOOD COIN DEBUFF. (These penalties should discourage players from spawning on or near spirit healers en masse and breaking immersion by avoiding combat for 60 seconds because of some arguably arbitrary debuff.. it's kinda awkward.) - INCREASE THE SPEED IN WHICH YOU MOVE WHEN DEAD BY ATLEAST 50% TO ASSIST IN GROUP RECOVERY AND COHESION - INCREASE THE RADIUS IN WHICH PLAYERS CAN REZ ON CORPSE TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOOP AS A PARTY AND MITIGATE SPAWN CAMPING - THIS IS A BIG MAYBE BUT - ALLOW DEAD PLAYERS TO REZ ON PARTY MEMBERS AS WELL AS THEIR CORPSE. (just an idea to play with. If player resurrects on a party member, maybe they only have say 10% hp and mana, and it wouldn't possible to rez on party member that is in combat. I think the same rules would apply regarding spirit healer radius. - maybe add additional spirit healers but meh, I'd be happy with a speed increase whilst in spirit form across the board. Complimentary Mechanic: Resurrection Ritual - AT THE COST OF BLOOD COINS, Allow for a resurrection ritual that will summon a party member back from the dead to the group participating in the ritual - regardless of if they've released their spirit or not. (an item required for the ritual could be purchased with blood coins from the vendor at Gurubushi arena. The ritual could require 3 party members, with each having to sacrifice a set amount of coins. It should take a minimum of 10 seconds to complete the ritual.) Bonus options: - farfetched but fun to brainstorm (Parachute/Goblin Glider/Zeppelin/Airship Respawn): 1 - Similar to the suggestion mentioned in the video, a battle royale inspired respawn mechanic wherein dead players on a global timer spawn in the air on a parachute/goblin glider that is anchored to the position of the party leader (cbf elaborating on technical hurdles) 2 - Rez on an alliance airship or horde zeppelin that spawn every 30-60 seconds traversing a randomized set of linear paths through the zone (this adds an element of RNG). Players could jump off at will, auto-activating a parachute/glider buff, however I think the former bonus option is more practical as a short-term possibility. The latter is something that could be considered for an unplanned bonus zone in phase 4 because the devs care about us ;). I'm really curious how the dev team didn't have the foresight to envision players exploiting the instant spawn @ spirit healers for coins, but I can't be mad because they've done such an incredible job reimagining the game we all fell in love with.
I prefer the health boost. Damage reduction made PvP into a heal battle rather than PvP. Now healers and warlocks won’t benefit as much from the anti-burst
Now we finally need dual spec. We have so much more flexability with all these runes, the only thing holding us back is no option to change specs on the fly
They're not going to do anything regarding taking away the PvP items. They covered their tracks when they stated that they wanted to get the event out and worry about the exploits later. This train of thought is going to just hurt those that didn't participate while exploits were active.
Pretty much. Now instead of a few days of grinding, this shit is gonna take over a month now with just how many people are spawning with the bloodless debuff. Cool event for just massacring, but now it's just going to feel tedious after the weeks up.
I think that diversity in top 15 feels nice. I have to remind myself by doing this : Go to Warcraft logs and look at top 15 last week of BFD. That list didn't get nerfed. Unless this top 15 looks more stacked or imbalanced...leave it be. We have to change the mold of all brown and yellow parses(rogues/wars) on top and until that's true we nerf all other classes. Cheers to others getting a chance to shine and feel the power...let those other colors fly baby.
Blizzard needs to ban the people exploiting the PvP event, also take away everything they earned. We shouldn't be letting this stuff slide and instead should be making examples out of clear cheaters.
The BFD xp change has been great, and it's been surprisingly easy to find the RFK/SM pug here and there being a non-mage. The BG change is nice, but if that old damage debuff also affected healing, they could've kept it as is. Unfortunately, they didn't do anything to fix the quest issue from 25-30. It's been a tedious slog to put it mildly. Insanely bad respawn/drops rates on mobs you need. Overly fast respawn rates on mobs that mean nothing (harpies in 1000 needles). Wouldn't be that bad if XP gains in dungeons felt a bit better. OH, and the mount cost change and 75g for the pearl? Very stupid change, but definitely something expected from a blizz dev. Overall, kind of disappointed in S2 so far compared to S1.
The worst for the trinket is not really the price, it’s the fact that it’s now unique and not unique-equipped, meaning that if you want to change you have to delete your old one, for me as a druid it’s just a feel bad if i want to try iut a different spec 🤷🏼♂️
Good thing is these phases help blizz tremendously to get the end game (60+) right. Think of everything theyre learning about the player base and what we want in order to make an amazing phase 4+ which is the ultimate goal
I think PVP in BGs needs to be left the F alone, no health and no damage reduction. and the people that got blood moon items during exploit time should have them taken away, but this would have been fixed faster if blizzard had GMs in the game answering tickets and seeing what is going on in the open world...
I am in Mexico for a week for vacation, which happens to overlap with the P2 release. I got to play for 1 day before leaving. I'm definitely bummed to be missing out, but also looking forward to getting to return to my favorite game. Thanks for putting out content to watch down here south of the border. 👍🏻
FoMO - The Fear of Missing Out. "Don't get FoMO out there and feel pressured..." "Some of the speed-levellers who were exploiting the fact that they could continuously farm tokens by repeatedly killing people within graveyards... It allowed them to aquire all of their epics...within 24 to 36 hours of the event being active." Seems like the fear is pretty much validated my man.
The debuff in STV is great for its intended purpose... But if you attack somebody while you have the debuffed, you should lose your debuff be worth blood again!! It feels really bad defending yourself against players attacking you while they have the debuff and are worth nothing to you, when they initiated combat. You spend your HP and Mana on a one-sided fight. It feels like you're being penalized for staying alive.. maybe the debuff could put you in a Pally bubble where you can't fight or gain blood until you're worth blood again too. I can't be the only one who feels that way?
The glider idea would be awesome idea only if when you attack or cast while it on then you lose the buff. Casters dying to fall damage to kill steal would be very entertaining.
Was wondering if they ever wanted to make the pearl quest from BFD to be re-doable, since alot of ppl change specs. The pearl is still BIS for alot of classes, so it would only make sense. Otherwise this punishes players for exploring other specs, which is what SoD is about.
Blizzard: We don’t want reasons for people to feel like they need to buy gold, so we’re banning GDKP Also Blizzard: Mount cost is going from 40g to 100g
Unless Blizz starts wiping stuff from people "exploiting" these kinds of things, they will never get rid of the community mindset that "Oh hurry, use this exploit before they patch it" which just accelerates the exploiting.
I'm absolutely for damage reduction for pvp. Even in open world. Fight happen so fast. I'm even saying that as a rogue who has the upper hand on choosing when/where I engage someone.
The problem is the powercreep, now blizzard needs bandaid solutions to this created problem. I dont understand why the runes needed to be so oppresive? They are not on par with the standard kit and that is one thing I really dislike about sod. Why does everything need to be 0 or 100 with blizzard?
Dmg reduction create more problems that not having it, they make tanks unkillable, make any caster class tanky and make the healing OP, HP increase is the way, there should be 20% more hp in open world too
I am a ret paladin who got his epic sword the first hour. Even though I REALLY enjoyed grinding it and the blood moon overall, I do agree it’s unfair to have such an advantage
I agree. Something a lot of people who don't play Era lack the understanding that Hunters gear scaling absolutely sucks. Their class design is very different from all the others. As everyone gets phase 2 gear, they won't move much higher from where they are at the start. Stats mean very little, weapons make a difference, and bm Hunters will always be the strongest. Melee Hunters don't need a nerf. They need to wait it out. If they nerf them now, it will end up just like phase 2: the only pure dps class being the middle of the pack lol
Buffing stamina rather than giving people resilience is the way to go. The only thing that sucks about it is that it sounds as if it scales better with gear. I don’t think 1 shot meta is healthy for the game in the long run but damage reduction is also not the solution.
% health buff is much better than a flat % damage nerf, and the fact that reddit nearly unanimously agreed that this was a positive change tells you all you need to know, really. btw things like moonkins and shadow priests who are already the emerging overlords of this phase in pvp would only stand more to gain from switching back to a damage reduction system - good luck killing either of those classes without the potential to burst them down or finish them off while they are low.
Sure…I guess…but think of how much % health instead of dmg reduction BENEFITS boomies/locks/spriests now…. They just slap on dots for full damage, PLUS they have the pandemic runes now so dots crit…and just walk away and you’re dead lol. Good luck beating them on any class without burst heal.
They were definitely too quick to change the dmg reduction in pvp. Way too many classes in the 25 meta didn't have key abilities and talents, so while it seemed overpowered in 25's people will probably be getting insta-killed in 40s bgs as people start gearing up.
My 2 cents: the people who abused the stv event should have those items taken. And I personally support reduced PvP damage. Look at elden ring. We needed PvP scaling for the longevity of the game and its still going strong even while everyones waiting for DLC. I dont think it was harmful for WoW at all
Just a heads up on EPIC gear: I've joined STV only 3 times today, 1st on being my first ever STV and i've gotten 6 Silver tokens already. So it's just 1 maybe 2 days of work with a 5 Man group. People need to stop being so dramatic about the explioters and focus on having fun with friends. Season of Dads is awesome.
Damage reduction in battle grounds was fine, they just also needed to reduce healing done. Only reducing damage and leavin healing at 100% is what made healers too OP
The stranglethorn pvp event is definitely crazy. I didn't know people were already at max gear tbh, but I guess that sounds about right since I'm just evaporating in a matter of
They need to roll back items ASAP - this is how new world was broken.... Dev's didn't think it was that big of a deal, but any advantage for any period of time, especially the best weapons at max level for a phase, IS A BIG FRIGGIN DEAL. Thank you!
I hope they make it so you don’t have to turn in your blood on the PvP event. All I saw was just people camping the spots and that resulted in time wasted cuz you can never get to it
Its all casters because 3 mages 1 Priest and a Lock tank clear dungeons by far the fastest. So them bringing all casters had nothing to do with power, they just lvld MUCH faster than any melee comp could.
Warrior players grab 3 wars and a feral druid and a healer. I lvld as a feral druid with this comp from 34-37 in about 3.5hrs or a bit less total. It's really good. Didn't have it for 37-40 and each lvl took a bit over 2hrs
I don't consider the guys getting all their gear so fast exploitative. The Devs tested and released the event in this form. If they messed up and it seems like they have, maybe a compromise like refund all the gear for 1/2 the currency value. Let them choose as to which pieces they consider most valuable to purchase. After all they did go hard to get to that level in the game so quickly.
I sincerely hope they address MSW rune in it's entirety. The quest line is awful and the skill itself is in a real rough state. It doesn't proc from windfury or stormstrike and casting anything with the 5 stacks resets your swing timers so you're standing there like an idiot for a few seconds. I don't recommend anyone go for this rune until it gets addressed. Power surge will probably serve you better.
I would rather have 25% damage reduction and that should be applied in the open world too, not everyone only does PVP in battlegrounds, open world PVP matters too.
4:04 going the route of stamina instead of reduced damage is a more fun way of going about "nerfing" damage in battlegrounds - which is sorely needed in SOD as people are doing obscene amounts of damage; but it is likely not enough HP to make up for the reduced damage that was implemented. If they want to go the stamina route I am all for it, but it should likely be something more like 50%. ATM boomkins are critting people for 1300 with starsurge - 20% more hp doesn't remedy that. Even full bis classes will be running 3kish hp at the most in BGs; at that time boomkins will defiinitely be hitting harder as well. 2/3 of someone's hp in one button that costs basically no mana and on a 6s cd will have people crying for the entirety of the phase. I haven't put enough thought into a good solution, but the burst meta is not fun PvP. It should be possible to gear and specialize for it, but a glass cannon spec should still be made out glass.
Do not get baited as Spriest :P they are top right now because we dont have enough to compare too, if they are still top 3 in a month I would be more than a little surprised :P
Bonus HP all day. It ruins my strat as a paladin main completely to have 20 percent less damage. You run in, burst someone down, and the healers can’t outheal a burst. That’s how it should be, but the heals in BGs last phase were all that mattered. One priest could keep the whole team healed, and there was no stopping them when there was two back to back. They’d just heal each other, and you couldn’t stop em. Hopefully now burst works, and hitting people doesn’t feel bad
If they aren't going to run a PTR and want to prevent things like the exploit happening in PVP, then they should not allow the awards to be bought right away. It should have been gate kept for a week so they could make adjustments.
Blood moon event reminds me of joining ultima online late and not being able to leave town because or free for all pvp campers killing people and stealing their gear. Anyone else remember what UO was like?
My issue with having us drop into STV on Goblin Gliders is the potential for players to abuse them to get on top of unreachable areas/unintended exploration. I’m sure there could be a way to implement that so that wouldn’t be possible but it would require far too much work and to put up invisible walls.
Separate the combatants back into factions. That start treating it more like a battle ground. For the players who exploited the system you don't have to get rid of the gear but you could set it to where they could no longer party up together forcing them to group with some one who has no gear or less gear. It's a thought of forcing that one person with full gear to fight alone I don't know it's a thought.
Extra HP + 20% DR would've been the best move. And removing soul shard cost for warlock pets is the play. Them functioning normally otherwise is still very big and important and doesn't take away from the class fantasy via Healthstones, Soulstones and Summoning. There's no other fair way to mitigate as it would incur spec change etc.
So actually fact that shadow priest feels so „good” is just because green items with Shadow spell dmg that you can world drop/craft from tailorning are literally as good as BIS slot gear. You only lose intellect and spirit but after shadowform changes it doesnt matter i went oom just once during entire Gnomeregan clear. Dps will change a lot for other classes when they get some better gear from gnomeregan but shadow priest will not get a lot of it so its gonna end on bottom once again
HOW TO FIX THE STV pvp EVENT! (easy) 1. Reduce the number of players in a single layer (by 3 times) 2. Increase the number of flag locations from 5 to 15 to spread the players 3. Until everyone from your group is dead you shouldn't be able to resurrect. When everyone is dead you all resurrect together in a random location with 15 second immunity buff (unable to attack for the duration) 4. Put a stamina buff for the duration of the event to compensate for the improved damage from the runes. Or make 5% damage reduction from each rune you equip. Right now people are one shooting each other! 5. Fire the guys responsible for the PVP events. They have no idea how to build a wpvp event!
The irony of fixing the mount prices is that the jobless and streamers and anyone with unlimited time to play had way more gold and hit 40 fast enough to pay 50% less. Now those of us who have less time to play and less gold as well get to pay twice as much here in a week or 2 when I hit 40 on my first character. Pvp is lame and they’re focusing on the wrong things. With that being said sod is tons of fun.
Currently doing the Dark Rider questline for my final rune! I know it's early but I hope they add a barber for one of the next phases. That's not too much retail is it? :P
Players in the STV event should get a berserk buff on respawn, buffs should be retained on death, and pets should be revived. GY camping is still happening because players don't need rewards to want to camp.
Majority of mage runes are tedious 0.1% drops with very few mob spawn locations, which forces you to group up with other mages. Personally I'm not a fan of having to depend on others for something that's for me specifically to get done.
The fact that ppl managed to farm it out dosent really matter farming out your epic goes so fast. You can gain without having any super group pretty easily 5 silver coins each 3h
the "exploit" of the graveyard camping is the kind of stuff that just happens in actively developed games. see it as an early adopters bonus. those epics are sure nice to have but in effect those people rushed a two week grind in two days of a two month phase. in the end everyone is gonna have them if they care to do the events.
As frustrating as it is to know there are over geared players running around, I think stemming the tide is the best the devs can do. Taking the gear away would set a troubling precedent. They’ve done it before for cheaters, but these players didn’t cheat…technically. I don’t like it, but their advantage will diminish more as every day passes. They can ruin their play time if they want. I’m going to enjoy the grind with my friends.
People exploiting the event is a huge problem. There is rogues critting you down in 3 Hits, melee Hunters autoattacking for 600+ (and ofc a Monster of an Pet aswell) everyone else has to do a hard grind now to catch this up again. As a developer @blizz i would deactivate these weapons for at least one ID, or nerf them to Green Quality for a while, so others can catch up. Or just give me Staff of Jordan and i ll keep my mouth shut.
This leveling hole from 25 to 30 is rough. I did far too many quests in season one, after hitting 25. Grinding mobs is not fun, but what else am I going to do?
Give them a short ban for exploiting and allow others to catch up. Don't take the already acquired gear. Without some form of punishment, this will continue to happen in the future.
The 20% is better than damage reduction as it will scale better with pvp gear later on. It’s important to remember that the pvp gear falls off drastically, and this addition will give it some relevance later down the road. Some of the raid gear is -Stam so this will make ppl think twice about what gear they choose
idk how u guys can like this pvp state of the game , every one one shots everything , that is not pvp , pvp is having fun because u outplayed someone not because u crited first and one tapped the guy
Only problem I have with the pvp event is honorless people killing each other non stop like make it unable to attack anyone when u get drained of blood
Sweet will be buying gold to afford my riding why would they change it back? You know how long it takes for a casual to farm 100g so ridiculous! I’m only level 28 I haven’t had time to play lately
Take away the blood moon rewards acquired by exploits, and give them some token reward for participating, like a rations box for PVP like in WOTLK. Enjoy your corn bread and 20s rations!
The one minute debuff sucks, I rez and have to wait a minute before I can get any blood, so I’m punished for dying twice. Usually I get killed again with the buff still on so never have a chance to get any bloods. They should make it solo only, not fun getting rolled by 5man groups.
Bloodmoon exploit is a real disaster... best case scenario going forward is all those who exploited their way to epic gear will get bored of the event and log-in only for Gnomer clears. In the meantime though, can we please get a Starsurge nerf? A hybrid class killing you in the blink of an eye doesn't seem very balanced... ironically, for Balance Druids.
I got kick out a dark rider group as the leader thought lvl 31 hunter is too low. But I got in another group with other 28-30 ish. We had one 40 and 37. I can hit and dps very well on the riders. Tips for early lvl casters, you have to hit and dps at least once, for example with a dagger, in order to loot the item. And yes, as long as you are in a raid, any levels can do the quest
Season of Discovery phase 1 was fun. Phase 2, so far, not so much. The overcrowding is just too much to deal with right now. Trying to quest is an absolute nightmare. I have played since the second or third week of WoW's release and have never seen it this bad. This is the first time in WoW's history that I have went to quest and seen ZERO mobs to kill, I literally mean ZERO mobs. So many people everywhere that you go, it's out of hand. You simply cannot quest. Sure, if you want to dungeon grind to level, but even that get's old real fast as you do not get to experience the phase 2 world as intended. If they do not add new servers, or seriously crack down on, what I call, "super-farmers", then SoD will go the way of retail and just fall off the mmo map. I post this so that if folks are experiencing the same bad things that I am, maybe we can all start speaking out until they add more servers.
were only 3 days into phase 2 but i already feel massively behind. there are roving groups of 40s all over stv and i just got there on my 31 rogue, and im being prevented from using the zone the way it was meant to. This was supposed to be a FFA even not a "small group" event.
In regards to the STV thing about “oh it isn’t fair” I gotta say nothing really stopped anyone from participating in the death ball at graveyards. On top of it, most of the items from the event aren’t THAT crazy. Sure, we do want the he items and as a melee hunter ima grind for the bow, but I’m not going to bitch and moan about other people getting it first. It’s a single item and it won’t be as much as a power gap as people are making it out to be.
Did my dark riders run, I'm not a streamer so it took me two to three hours, and even then I didn't have a full raid group I had two or three people willing to do it. Also, proud that the Simon got top 15, class represent
Concerning the full caster comp for the WF gnomeregan, keep in mind that it was also their compo for a quick lvl 40 rush. That's just two caster cleave who just blasted SM together probably, since it's the most efficient way to max level.
Agreed - I haven't looked in depth at the raid, but mages being the fastest levelers, it only makes sense they were mage heavy that fast.
This is so obvious idk how anyone needs this reminder lol. Great point
bean 6 pulling SM cath with 2 mage and 1 pala tank. so fast and easy
Also all the mages they had, think of all the extra heals
Yeah, this was always gonna be an issue as long as mages can heal off damage
I've been having the best PvP experience of my life as a Solo Marksman Nightelf Hunter in the Bloomoon event.
- Trackings & Eagle eye
- Max range & Viper aspect
- Traps in combat & other cc's
- Feing Death + Shadow meld
The perfect tools to run on the edge of raid/groups fighting eachother just to steal kills and finish players running away, I even run LoneWolf+SniperTraining for maximum snipage.
Even if it's better to run groups to farm blood, it's way too freaking funnier that way xD
That sounds awesome!
Love this, you do you my guy!
Sounds epic
sounds sick lol
This is bad ass
Two notable things :
- I bought a Stranglethorn Lumber and turned in the quest in Arathi, it gives no reward.
- I hit revered with Azeroth Commerce Authority, no new item at the vendor.
Funny thing about the lumber quest is that the flavor text says "you will not go unrewarded" and then you receive no reward.
I agree that they should wipe the items from the pvp camping event
Same, if they got rid of any previous item in that slot give it back to them.
Yeah It cant be that hard they’ve rolled back items and stuff before.
Idc. Did 3 events today and got 7s. Easily can get epics in 2 days. Not like it's a huge issue.
@@twinyuccas9286 how? On living flame EU i legit can't do shit cause of the lagg😂
Just kill the trolls in the ruins/beach in the northern part + a little PvP action in between. No lagg, 200-300 blood/event or even more at higher lvl. Got my 15s in around 8 events at lvl 30 joining in with nice people that grinded to higher levels already.
I have some considerations regarding the STV PvP event. Please feel free to share any concerns, critiques, additions, or amendments. Once I get some feedback from you all, I'll try compile the best ideas into a practical model and post it on the blizz forums.
Goals:
DISCOURAGE MEANINGLESS PLAYER CONGESTION AND COMBAT, SUPPORT PARTY COHESION AND RECOVERY, AND ULTIMATELY BOLSTER IMMERSION.
Suggestions:
- REMOVE REZ ON CORPSE TIMER DURING STV PVP EVENT ENTIRELY
- SPIRIT HEALERS TO HAVE REZ TIMER THAT COMPOUNDS UP TO 60 SECONDS AND APPLY A DEBUFF THAT DISABLES THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE BLOOD COINS, YIELD BLOOD COINS TO ENEMIES UPON DEATH, OR DEPOSIT THEM AT AN ALTAR FOR 60 SECONDS
- PLAYERS ATTEMPTING TO REZ ON THEIR CORPSE WITHIN A SET RADIUS OF SPIRIT HEALERS MUST BE AFFECTED BY THE SAME PENALTIES I.E. REZ TIMER, BLOOD COIN DEBUFF. (These penalties should discourage players from spawning on or near spirit healers en masse and breaking immersion by avoiding combat for 60 seconds because of some arguably arbitrary debuff.. it's kinda awkward.)
- INCREASE THE SPEED IN WHICH YOU MOVE WHEN DEAD BY ATLEAST 50% TO ASSIST IN GROUP RECOVERY AND COHESION
- INCREASE THE RADIUS IN WHICH PLAYERS CAN REZ ON CORPSE TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOOP AS A PARTY AND MITIGATE SPAWN CAMPING
- THIS IS A BIG MAYBE BUT - ALLOW DEAD PLAYERS TO REZ ON PARTY MEMBERS AS WELL AS THEIR CORPSE. (just an idea to play with. If player resurrects on a party member, maybe they only have say 10% hp and mana, and it wouldn't possible to rez on party member that is in combat. I think the same rules would apply regarding spirit healer radius.
- maybe add additional spirit healers but meh, I'd be happy with a speed increase whilst in spirit form across the board.
Complimentary Mechanic:
Resurrection Ritual - AT THE COST OF BLOOD COINS, Allow for a resurrection ritual that will summon a party member back from the dead to the group participating in the ritual - regardless of if they've released their spirit or not. (an item required for the ritual could be purchased with blood coins from the vendor at Gurubushi arena. The ritual could require 3 party members, with each having to sacrifice a set amount of coins. It should take a minimum of 10 seconds to complete the ritual.)
Bonus options: - farfetched but fun to brainstorm (Parachute/Goblin Glider/Zeppelin/Airship Respawn):
1 - Similar to the suggestion mentioned in the video, a battle royale inspired respawn mechanic wherein dead players on a global timer spawn in the air on a parachute/goblin glider that is anchored to the position of the party leader (cbf elaborating on technical hurdles)
2 - Rez on an alliance airship or horde zeppelin that spawn every 30-60 seconds traversing a randomized set of linear paths through the zone (this adds an element of RNG). Players could jump off at will, auto-activating a parachute/glider buff, however I think the former bonus option is more practical as a short-term possibility. The latter is something that could be considered for an unplanned bonus zone in phase 4 because the devs care about us ;).
I'm really curious how the dev team didn't have the foresight to envision players exploiting the instant spawn @ spirit healers for coins, but I can't be mad because they've done such an incredible job reimagining the game we all fell in love with.
I prefer the health boost. Damage reduction made PvP into a heal battle rather than PvP. Now healers and warlocks won’t benefit as much from the anti-burst
healer here, going dps cuz theres no point to even try healing through the burst.
That Maelstrom Weapon essence grind is crazy
Really disappointed in the gold increase for mounts.
what gold increase? They upped them to their appropriate for Classic prices, money in this game is not hard to make
@jslaughter95 did they not lower the cost for phase 2 initially?
no, they lowered the cost in Season of Mastery and evidently just didn't change it back for SoD@@antharper11
No, the lower amount prior was for last season.
@@thugzwithplugz1214 you mean when we couldn't get mounts?
Now we finally need dual spec. We have so much more flexability with all these runes, the only thing holding us back is no option to change specs on the fly
I agree
They're not going to do anything regarding taking away the PvP items. They covered their tracks when they stated that they wanted to get the event out and worry about the exploits later. This train of thought is going to just hurt those that didn't participate while exploits were active.
Which is perhaps atleast 70% if not 80% of the players... not all got vacation or time to get max lvl so fast and make use of the exploit
Pretty much. Now instead of a few days of grinding, this shit is gonna take over a month now with just how many people are spawning with the bloodless debuff.
Cool event for just massacring, but now it's just going to feel tedious after the weeks up.
You get your epics in less then 10 events, just play the game lol
@@Followthehambut you didnt have to get to max lvl to be part of the event at all. I went in there at lvl 28 and there were tons of 28-32s.
I think that diversity in top 15 feels nice. I have to remind myself by doing this : Go to Warcraft logs and look at top 15 last week of BFD. That list didn't get nerfed. Unless this top 15 looks more stacked or imbalanced...leave it be. We have to change the mold of all brown and yellow parses(rogues/wars) on top and until that's true we nerf all other classes. Cheers to others getting a chance to shine and feel the power...let those other colors fly baby.
3% on that sleeping bag is terrible considering you have to stand there for 3 minutes and you lose it on death
Well
Blizzard needs to ban the people exploiting the PvP event, also take away everything they earned.
We shouldn't be letting this stuff slide and instead should be making examples out of clear cheaters.
The BFD xp change has been great, and it's been surprisingly easy to find the RFK/SM pug here and there being a non-mage. The BG change is nice, but if that old damage debuff also affected healing, they could've kept it as is.
Unfortunately, they didn't do anything to fix the quest issue from 25-30. It's been a tedious slog to put it mildly. Insanely bad respawn/drops rates on mobs you need. Overly fast respawn rates on mobs that mean nothing (harpies in 1000 needles). Wouldn't be that bad if XP gains in dungeons felt a bit better. OH, and the mount cost change and 75g for the pearl? Very stupid change, but definitely something expected from a blizz dev.
Overall, kind of disappointed in S2 so far compared to S1.
The worst for the trinket is not really the price, it’s the fact that it’s now unique and not unique-equipped, meaning that if you want to change you have to delete your old one, for me as a druid it’s just a feel bad if i want to try iut a different spec 🤷🏼♂️
Good thing is these phases help blizz tremendously to get the end game (60+) right. Think of everything theyre learning about the player base and what we want in order to make an amazing phase 4+ which is the ultimate goal
I think PVP in BGs needs to be left the F alone, no health and no damage reduction. and the people that got blood moon items during exploit time should have them taken away, but this would have been fixed faster if blizzard had GMs in the game answering tickets and seeing what is going on in the open world...
I am in Mexico for a week for vacation, which happens to overlap with the P2 release. I got to play for 1 day before leaving. I'm definitely bummed to be missing out, but also looking forward to getting to return to my favorite game. Thanks for putting out content to watch down here south of the border. 👍🏻
Enjoy yourself. You're not missing out on shit, dont let fomo get to you. You're gonna have fun when all these sweats are experiencing burn out.
@@someoneinthecrowd4313 for sure, thanks bro
i miss u daddy
FoMO - The Fear of Missing Out.
"Don't get FoMO out there and feel pressured..."
"Some of the speed-levellers who were exploiting the fact that they could continuously farm tokens by repeatedly killing people within graveyards... It allowed them to aquire all of their epics...within 24 to 36 hours of the event being active."
Seems like the fear is pretty much validated my man.
The debuff in STV is great for its intended purpose... But if you attack somebody while you have the debuffed, you should lose your debuff be worth blood again!!
It feels really bad defending yourself against players attacking you while they have the debuff and are worth nothing to you, when they initiated combat. You spend your HP and Mana on a one-sided fight.
It feels like you're being penalized for staying alive.. maybe the debuff could put you in a Pally bubble where you can't fight or gain blood until you're worth blood again too.
I can't be the only one who feels that way?
The glider idea would be awesome idea only if when you attack or cast while it on then you lose the buff.
Casters dying to fall damage to kill steal would be very entertaining.
I agree would be hilarious
so if you didnt pvp early youre screwed because everyone else got their gear already
Was wondering if they ever wanted to make the pearl quest from BFD to be re-doable, since alot of ppl change specs. The pearl is still BIS for alot of classes, so it would only make sense. Otherwise this punishes players for exploring other specs, which is what SoD is about.
True
Blizzard: We don’t want reasons for people to feel like they need to buy gold, so we’re banning GDKP
Also Blizzard: Mount cost is going from 40g to 100g
Exploit early and exploit often. Never get punished. This is the way it’s always been with WoW.
Ooof
Unless Blizz starts wiping stuff from people "exploiting" these kinds of things, they will never get rid of the community mindset that "Oh hurry, use this exploit before they patch it" which just accelerates the exploiting.
I'm absolutely for damage reduction for pvp. Even in open world. Fight happen so fast. I'm even saying that as a rogue who has the upper hand on choosing when/where I engage someone.
As a healer i agree too. People are dead before my casts go off. There is no time to even use your toolkit or cds.
The problem is the powercreep, now blizzard needs bandaid solutions to this created problem. I dont understand why the runes needed to be so oppresive? They are not on par with the standard kit and that is one thing I really dislike about sod. Why does everything need to be 0 or 100 with blizzard?
Dmg reduction create more problems that not having it, they make tanks unkillable, make any caster class tanky and make the healing OP, HP increase is the way, there should be 20% more hp in open world too
I am a ret paladin who got his epic sword the first hour. Even though I REALLY enjoyed grinding it and the blood moon overall, I do agree it’s unfair to have such an advantage
I feel you on this
SOD pvp is so badly done. This blizzard team has no idea what they are doing.
Ya the berserk rune is literally three times better than adrenaline rush for ferals. They are putting minimal thinking into a lot of this.
Hope melee hunters don’t get nerfed to bad the melee build seems like a lot of fun
I agree. Something a lot of people who don't play Era lack the understanding that Hunters gear scaling absolutely sucks. Their class design is very different from all the others. As everyone gets phase 2 gear, they won't move much higher from where they are at the start. Stats mean very little, weapons make a difference, and bm Hunters will always be the strongest. Melee Hunters don't need a nerf. They need to wait it out. If they nerf them now, it will end up just like phase 2: the only pure dps class being the middle of the pack lol
Buffing stamina rather than giving people resilience is the way to go. The only thing that sucks about it is that it sounds as if it scales better with gear. I don’t think 1 shot meta is healthy for the game in the long run but damage reduction is also not the solution.
The items are super easy to get even without the "exploit". You can easily get the epic weapons in 3-5 events
% health buff is much better than a flat % damage nerf, and the fact that reddit nearly unanimously agreed that this was a positive change tells you all you need to know, really. btw things like moonkins and shadow priests who are already the emerging overlords of this phase in pvp would only stand more to gain from switching back to a damage reduction system - good luck killing either of those classes without the potential to burst them down or finish them off while they are low.
Sure…I guess…but think of how much % health instead of dmg reduction BENEFITS boomies/locks/spriests now…. They just slap on dots for full damage, PLUS they have the pandemic runes now so dots crit…and just walk away and you’re dead lol. Good luck beating them on any class without burst heal.
They were definitely too quick to change the dmg reduction in pvp. Way too many classes in the 25 meta didn't have key abilities and talents, so while it seemed overpowered in 25's people will probably be getting insta-killed in 40s bgs as people start gearing up.
My 2 cents: the people who abused the stv event should have those items taken.
And I personally support reduced PvP damage. Look at elden ring. We needed PvP scaling for the longevity of the game and its still going strong even while everyones waiting for DLC. I dont think it was harmful for WoW at all
loving the content man, keep up the great work and big shout out on keeping things positive and encouraging the positive vibes in the community
Just dinged 40 on my rogue, tuesday is gnomer raid planned. So much to do! Love it!
Just a heads up on EPIC gear:
I've joined STV only 3 times today, 1st on being my first ever STV and i've gotten 6 Silver tokens already. So it's just 1 maybe 2 days of work with a 5 Man group. People need to stop being so dramatic about the explioters and focus on having fun with friends. Season of Dads is awesome.
Damage reduction in battle grounds was fine, they just also needed to reduce healing done. Only reducing damage and leavin healing at 100% is what made healers too OP
I feel this
I'm having second thoughts about my guild when two of them where whining about the fact that Blizzard fixed the camping in PVP🤨
Woah 2 people had a different opinion then you? Damn you should definitely call them out and gquit mid raid
give shamans instant cast ghost wolf!!!!!!!!
Give the exploiters a debuff. "Pray on the weak" (curse) -10% on all stats for a certain period of time.
The stranglethorn pvp event is definitely crazy. I didn't know people were already at max gear tbh, but I guess that sounds about right since I'm just evaporating in a matter of
Agree with all of this
They need to roll back items ASAP - this is how new world was broken.... Dev's didn't think it was that big of a deal, but any advantage for any period of time, especially the best weapons at max level for a phase, IS A BIG FRIGGIN DEAL. Thank you!
Agreed
New world still only has 1 opr map... Clueless boomer devs
@@Dualitiesyeah I wish they’d get some veteran devs. The combat and pvp is so good in new world
praise those who sweated finding those runes time to start pulling our hair to get those runes
his voice broke on the 'lot to discuss' part today our boy is growing up!
Hahaha yes, growing up on WoW
Thanks for summarizing for me why I’m dropping SoD until WoW Cata comes out 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
imagine playing WoW Cata lol
Imagine telling ppl what they should like.
The PvP change seemed good at 25. At 40 though the damage is so damn wild my opinion on it has changed.
I hope they make it so you don’t have to turn in your blood on the PvP event. All I saw was just people camping the spots and that resulted in time wasted cuz you can never get to it
You can turn them in after the event
Loving SoD for the most part. Best MMO I have played since pre-Cata.
I agree
The devs should come out and say they’re going to fully wipe everyone’s stv tokens/gear/ items until the next reset and start it all over.
Its all casters because 3 mages 1 Priest and a Lock tank clear dungeons by far the fastest.
So them bringing all casters had nothing to do with power, they just lvld MUCH faster than any melee comp could.
I’ve never heard anyone say “it’s not fair” as much as season of discovery players say it
Lmaooo
Warrior players grab 3 wars and a feral druid and a healer. I lvld as a feral druid with this comp from 34-37 in about 3.5hrs or a bit less total. It's really good. Didn't have it for 37-40 and each lvl took a bit over 2hrs
Hell yeah
I don't consider the guys getting all their gear so fast exploitative. The Devs tested and released the event in this form. If they messed up and it seems like they have, maybe a compromise like refund all the gear for 1/2 the currency value. Let them choose as to which pieces they consider most valuable to purchase. After all they did go hard to get to that level in the game so quickly.
the dark rider rune raid was fun af, we should do somethin like that again sometime! sleeping bag raid?
I sincerely hope they address MSW rune in it's entirety. The quest line is awful and the skill itself is in a real rough state. It doesn't proc from windfury or stormstrike and casting anything with the 5 stacks resets your swing timers so you're standing there like an idiot for a few seconds. I don't recommend anyone go for this rune until it gets addressed. Power surge will probably serve you better.
I would rather have 25% damage reduction and that should be applied in the open world too, not everyone only does PVP in battlegrounds, open world PVP matters too.
I can see that
4:04
going the route of stamina instead of reduced damage is a more fun way of going about "nerfing" damage in battlegrounds - which is sorely needed in SOD as people are doing obscene amounts of damage; but it is likely not enough HP to make up for the reduced damage that was implemented. If they want to go the stamina route I am all for it, but it should likely be something more like 50%. ATM boomkins are critting people for 1300 with starsurge - 20% more hp doesn't remedy that. Even full bis classes will be running 3kish hp at the most in BGs; at that time boomkins will defiinitely be hitting harder as well. 2/3 of someone's hp in one button that costs basically no mana and on a 6s cd will have people crying for the entirety of the phase.
I haven't put enough thought into a good solution, but the burst meta is not fun PvP. It should be possible to gear and specialize for it, but a glass cannon spec should still be made out glass.
Interesting
Do not get baited as Spriest :P they are top right now because we dont have enough to compare too, if they are still top 3 in a month I would be more than a little surprised :P
Bonus HP all day. It ruins my strat as a paladin main completely to have 20 percent less damage. You run in, burst someone down, and the healers can’t outheal a burst. That’s how it should be, but the heals in BGs last phase were all that mattered. One priest could keep the whole team healed, and there was no stopping them when there was two back to back. They’d just heal each other, and you couldn’t stop em. Hopefully now burst works, and hitting people doesn’t feel bad
If they aren't going to run a PTR and want to prevent things like the exploit happening in PVP, then they should not allow the awards to be bought right away. It should have been gate kept for a week so they could make adjustments.
Good point
Blood moon event reminds me of joining ultima online late and not being able to leave town because or free for all pvp campers killing people and stealing their gear. Anyone else remember what UO was like?
I remember that, getting PK in town as a noob
My issue with having us drop into STV on Goblin Gliders is the potential for players to abuse them to get on top of unreachable areas/unintended exploration. I’m sure there could be a way to implement that so that wouldn’t be possible but it would require far too much work and to put up invisible walls.
Fair point
Separate the combatants back into factions. That start treating it more like a battle ground. For the players who exploited the system you don't have to get rid of the gear but you could set it to where they could no longer party up together forcing them to group with some one who has no gear or less gear. It's a thought of forcing that one person with full gear to fight alone I don't know it's a thought.
Good point
Extra HP + 20% DR would've been the best move. And removing soul shard cost for warlock pets is the play. Them functioning normally otherwise is still very big and important and doesn't take away from the class fantasy via Healthstones, Soulstones and Summoning. There's no other fair way to mitigate as it would incur spec change etc.
So actually fact that shadow priest feels so „good” is just because green items with Shadow spell dmg that you can world drop/craft from tailorning are literally as good as BIS slot gear. You only lose intellect and spirit but after shadowform changes it doesnt matter i went oom just once during entire Gnomeregan clear. Dps will change a lot for other classes when they get some better gear from gnomeregan but shadow priest will not get a lot of it so its gonna end on bottom once again
HP pools need dramatic increases. DMG is way too high for how little health we have
Stv event also needs to be fully FFA. No groups of any kind.
HOW TO FIX THE STV pvp EVENT! (easy)
1. Reduce the number of players in a single layer (by 3 times)
2. Increase the number of flag locations from 5 to 15 to spread the players
3. Until everyone from your group is dead you shouldn't be able to resurrect. When everyone is dead you all resurrect together in a random location with 15 second immunity buff (unable to attack for the duration)
4. Put a stamina buff for the duration of the event to compensate for the improved damage from the runes. Or make 5% damage reduction from each rune you equip. Right now people are one shooting each other!
5. Fire the guys responsible for the PVP events. They have no idea how to build a wpvp event!
And remove starsurge and sw death so that we can have fun
The irony of fixing the mount prices is that the jobless and streamers and anyone with unlimited time to play had way more gold and hit 40 fast enough to pay 50% less. Now those of us who have less time to play and less gold as well get to pay twice as much here in a week or 2 when I hit 40 on my first character. Pvp is lame and they’re focusing on the wrong things. With that being said sod is tons of fun.
Ive been waiting for your phase 2 video. yall make the best wow content
Currently doing the Dark Rider questline for my final rune! I know it's early but I hope they add a barber for one of the next phases. That's not too much retail is it? :P
Spent more time dead than alive in STV. That said, the structure of the event is good. Just needs a few tweaks.
Players in the STV event should get a berserk buff on respawn, buffs should be retained on death, and pets should be revived. GY camping is still happening because players don't need rewards to want to camp.
Majority of mage runes are tedious 0.1% drops with very few mob spawn locations, which forces you to group up with other mages.
Personally I'm not a fan of having to depend on others for something that's for me specifically to get done.
The 50% crit dmg bonus rune is so good, but its such a pain to get all 20 books. I have 17 so far , i never did the icy veins one
its an mmo lol
If phase 1 is anything to go on there is not much time to enjoy all the content.
We will see how it rolls
What do you mean
The fact that ppl managed to farm it out dosent really matter farming out your epic goes so fast. You can gain without having any super group pretty easily 5 silver coins each 3h
the "exploit" of the graveyard camping is the kind of stuff that just happens in actively developed games. see it as an early adopters bonus. those epics are sure nice to have but in effect those people rushed a two week grind in two days of a two month phase. in the end everyone is gonna have them if they care to do the events.
The comeback kids: “if you’re a shadow priest out there, looks like your time has finally arrived”
To be nerfed! LOOL
As frustrating as it is to know there are over geared players running around, I think stemming the tide is the best the devs can do.
Taking the gear away would set a troubling precedent. They’ve done it before for cheaters, but these players didn’t cheat…technically. I don’t like it, but their advantage will diminish more as every day passes. They can ruin their play time if they want. I’m going to enjoy the grind with my friends.
Good point
People exploiting the event is a huge problem. There is rogues critting you down in 3 Hits, melee Hunters autoattacking for 600+ (and ofc a Monster of an Pet aswell) everyone else has to do a hard grind now to catch this up again.
As a developer @blizz i would deactivate these weapons for at least one ID, or nerf them to Green Quality for a while, so others can catch up. Or just give me Staff of Jordan and i ll keep my mouth shut.
Also remove the debuff from being killed on attacking. If you re enter combat you should reward blood.
Hopefully they just increased mount prices to slay though ultra sweeties then turn it back for us not miss later
Wipe the ill-gotten gains from the Blood Moon exploiters.
This leveling hole from 25 to 30 is rough. I did far too many quests in season one, after hitting 25. Grinding mobs is not fun, but what else am I going to do?
Raid bfd and grind dungeons
BFD gets you to almost 26. Then just run dungeons.
It's a video game, fairness isn't an issue
Hunters should be top dps considering they are the only pure dps class in the game. No need to nerf
They will also scale not as hard
Give them a short ban for exploiting and allow others to catch up. Don't take the already acquired gear. Without some form of punishment, this will continue to happen in the future.
The people doing the graveyard spam should have their items removed. That's the only acceptable solution.
The 20% is better than damage reduction as it will scale better with pvp gear later on. It’s important to remember that the pvp gear falls off drastically, and this addition will give it some relevance later down the road. Some of the raid gear is -Stam so this will make ppl think twice about what gear they choose
It's all relative. The only difference mathematically is 3.33% more damage taken than before and healing is weaker.
I think it is a great change, healing was broken (priests).@@ForbiddenFollyFollower
idk how u guys can like this pvp state of the game , every one one shots everything , that is not pvp , pvp is having fun because u outplayed someone not because u crited first and one tapped the guy
Only problem I have with the pvp event is honorless people killing each other non stop like make it unable to attack anyone when u get drained of blood
Sweet will be buying gold to afford my riding why would they change it back? You know how long it takes for a casual to farm 100g so ridiculous! I’m only level 28 I haven’t had time to play lately
I bought gold but I got banned for 14 days, feel it too I don't want to farm 100g . How to buy gold and not get caught?
@@Chakii100I’ve done it a few times and use the AH method where u list an item on AH for them to buy. Hate doing it but I don’t have time with kids
Take away the blood moon rewards acquired by exploits, and give them some token reward for participating, like a rations box for PVP like in WOTLK. Enjoy your corn bread and 20s rations!
The one minute debuff sucks, I rez and have to wait a minute before I can get any blood, so I’m punished for dying twice. Usually I get killed again with the buff still on so never have a chance to get any bloods. They should make it solo only, not fun getting rolled by 5man groups.
Yes
Bloodmoon exploit is a real disaster... best case scenario going forward is all those who exploited their way to epic gear will get bored of the event and log-in only for Gnomer clears.
In the meantime though, can we please get a Starsurge nerf? A hybrid class killing you in the blink of an eye doesn't seem very balanced... ironically, for Balance Druids.
i agree, strip them of their loot from the event and make em grind with the rest
I got kick out a dark rider group as the leader thought lvl 31 hunter is too low. But I got in another group with other 28-30 ish. We had one 40 and 37. I can hit and dps very well on the riders. Tips for early lvl casters, you have to hit and dps at least once, for example with a dagger, in order to loot the item. And yes, as long as you are in a raid, any levels can do the quest
Our guild did it with 4 people under 27 😂 who cares
@@zometthecomet yep, the new runes are fun to use and helped a lot during leveling. Getting it at level 40 removes 70% of the fun gameplay
Season of Discovery phase 1 was fun. Phase 2, so far, not so much. The overcrowding is just too much to deal with right now. Trying to quest is an absolute nightmare. I have played since the second or third week of WoW's release and have never seen it this bad. This is the first time in WoW's history that I have went to quest and seen ZERO mobs to kill, I literally mean ZERO mobs. So many people everywhere that you go, it's out of hand. You simply cannot quest. Sure, if you want to dungeon grind to level, but even that get's old real fast as you do not get to experience the phase 2 world as intended. If they do not add new servers, or seriously crack down on, what I call, "super-farmers", then SoD will go the way of retail and just fall off the mmo map. I post this so that if folks are experiencing the same bad things that I am, maybe we can all start speaking out until they add more servers.
How can the classic team be so stupid to not consider spawn camping... its the epitome of classic wow. Unreal
were only 3 days into phase 2 but i already feel massively behind. there are roving groups of 40s all over stv and i just got there on my 31 rogue, and im being prevented from using the zone the way it was meant to. This was supposed to be a FFA even not a "small group" event.
No reason to feel behind
In regards to the STV thing about “oh it isn’t fair” I gotta say nothing really stopped anyone from participating in the death ball at graveyards. On top of it, most of the items from the event aren’t THAT crazy. Sure, we do want the he items and as a melee hunter ima grind for the bow, but I’m not going to bitch and moan about other people getting it first. It’s a single item and it won’t be as much as a power gap as people are making it out to be.
Did my dark riders run, I'm not a streamer so it took me two to three hours, and even then I didn't have a full raid group I had two or three people willing to do it.
Also, proud that the Simon got top 15, class represent