Phaedra is the type of person who says everything is cool, but behind the scenes scheming to destroy you. Just say how you really feel, & leave the passive aggressive tactics at home.
Jax James my point exactly I'm not a scorpio ...they actually get on my damn nerves because they sit bk and be sneaky and plot and 9 times out of 10 the shit ALWAYS blows up in their face..
Phaedra was her own demise. She failed to be honest with herself, she always hid her true feelings about Kandi, and wore a poker face. She was still hurt about Kandi hiding Apollo stuff in the garage. Instead of confronting Kandi and being honest about being hurt, she took the chance to hurt Kandi back but it hurt her in the end.
Mykee Wattz Ghetto is what that is. Kandi doesn't understand true friendship. Why would she try to put Phaedra on blast on tv. And she feels if what she is saying is true I can say it. And you say Phaedra didn't tell her laundry list. I would have put her on blast.
Taunna Tee I totally agree when Phaedra first joined the show she was very slim but them two babies she popped out and that dick she was getting got her weight up 🤷🏾♀️
I love Kandi. She’s concise, pragmatic and to the point. She sees through BS and refuses to be manipulated. She also has a heart of gold. Phaedra is evil. Fake Christian.
This was the moment, I believe, Phaedra decided to plant the lie in Porsha’s head about Kandi, Todd and the fake sex dungeon. Kandi clearly won this showdown Phaedra set up. And without even trying deliberately to hurt her. And Phaedra was like “I will end you.”
was Phaedra wrong for repeating the rumors she heard about Kandi to Porsha, who was the one who said it on tv? No. Y’all won’t admit it, but Phaedra wasn’t far off. Clearly the same rumors came out about Kandi’s best friends, Tiny & TI, about drugging and raping women yrs later. Phaedra was obviously onto something about how them celebs in ATL get down 🤷🏽♀️
90s lover ...Phadrea wasn't either,she was just letting Kandi know about how she felted about what her Mom said nd nothing else.But Kandi had to bring up other mess,which had nothing to do with what Pha was asking her about
Casandra Morrow that's couse kandi is worst for trown shade at u, and when it comes to FAMILY members could of been bit kinder about it. I always like pheadra and still do over Kandi. Pheadra could not get word in at all with her. Kandi very cleaver specks louder faster known that's not pheadra way of talking back. Give her no opportunity to say her peice, and she laughs all time like I don't give A fuck I have my muma Todd baby. Her daughter told her she couldn't handle another baby that made her mad. U could see it in her smerky face
I think Phaedra expressed that it was not about him specifically, it is the fact that the father of her kids is literally leaving and she is going to be a single mum, who would not be distraught by that?
@@dannieisKING well you're believing a liar. Drama said that he was going to blow her office up. Then Phaedra lied to cover it up, saying somebody called the police on him because Drama said his "album was going to be the bomb." This is not 2001. Nobody talks like that in 2016 when this happened
I felt the exact same. I always wondered what the particular reason was that Phaedra went so hard on Kandi to destroy her in the (let's be honest) criminal way she did. We're not talking harmless gossip. The woman was trying to actually ruin her, her livelihood, her family, even put her in jail w/that type of accusation. This moment showed her motive behind all that was straight up rooted in bitter jealousy. She saw Kandi having the life she wanted, and that she also felt she deserved. And top of that, Kandi managed to put Phaedra together, and that hurt her pride. That shows another level of evil, when you stoop to act on resentment in the violent and poisonous way Phaedra did.
Now how is she gonna say Todd is scraping for change when SHE is the one who couldn't give that man 5,000 that SHE owes HIM? Phaedra is so fake. Kandi spoke facts to her face.
It’s funny how Phaedra said “You have everything going for you”. “If anything I should be mad.” Sounds like she liked the fact that when she was with Apollo she felt like she had one up on Kandi. That is NOT a friend.
Kandi kept Phaedra’s cheating secret for seasons and only revealed it after Phaedra started talking about Todd. As far as the Kandi Koated Klique is concerned, she can check them a lil more, but she checks her mother lightly and respectfully. She tells her when she’s wrong, but Kandi has said multiple times she’s not gonna go in on her mom because that’s her MOTHER. Phaedra just should’ve admitted that she was pissed at Kandi and that’s why she made up the lie.
which is why I know Kandi isn't so innocent in this. Remember that employee that sued her? Kandi settled, and then sealed the settlement. She is not the sweet and innocent Kandi. Think about it, if she was friends with a snake to begin with.
Azoo Cola he sued her for no reason, because of Phaedra convinced him to do so. He was,getting paid . he started not getting paid because he didn't do his JOB. Wanted his 15 minutes. 😂😂♀🤦🏽
Azoo Cola Exactly! Then why settle? Business move or not, I would have bodied him in court! Kandi counter sued for defamation and lost! That’s why that attorney said that he possibly had a case. So, obviously his entire law suit wasn’t frivolous! That’s why her turn over rate is so high at that restaurant. Want hard work but pay with crumbs!
Naw I dont agree with that. Kandi was very loyal and quiet when it came to phaedra. Until all the shyt between Todd & Phaedra so then she had to step in cuz thats her husband. Plus, kandi was getting drug wrongfully so that's when she shed light on some things. She didn't do it out of spite. She did it to protect her brand, her family and her name. And I understand that. You can only be loyal for so long if someone else is willing to throw you under the bus. 🤷♂️ &&Idc what nobody says that's Average and normal human behavior. If someone puts a gun to your head and forces you to tell some things most people would sing like a damn canary. And that's facts.
You can see the hurt in Phaedra’s face the way kandi was so nonchalant about this whole situation. Kandi did interviews about Phaedra while Phaedra remained quiet and that showed she truly did love kandi and she wanted to repair the friendship
Kandi needed to be held accountable for being unsympathetic. What she can’t grasp is this is why Phaedra went crying to Nene; imagine Kandi’s dry reaction when her tears would start to fall. This is similar to what she’s going through now with Marlo
@benjaminevans4856 If I call you to check on you and you are in the middle of a divorce and you are telling me " girl I am seeing someone and we are getting married as soon as this divorce is over", a reasonable person would act like Kandi. It would be inferred that you have moved oh. Phaedra didn't think kandi was going to bring up that detail on the show which was why she was crying to other women who didn't have that information.
@Auset Ausar oooookayyyyyy.... exactly, I don't know why they think Kandi suppose to diss her mother for them....I don't care how wrong my mama is I'm not checking her in front of no bitch
Kandi is not a good friend. She can call people out but cant nobody say anything about how her mom is wrong. Wanna play victim when someone is attacking her but when tables are turned she get mad. There is no reason we needed to know this info in this convo. It wasnt even that type of situation. She just wanted to hurry up and say this so bad. It was burning through her throat to get this out. Not a real friend but cry about everything.
I don't think she necessarily said it out of hate- it just pissed Kandi the hell off because she was disappointed in Phaedra's hypocrisy to go crying and confiding in Nene of all people, the same woman who called Phaedra things like "not fabulous" and spent the first few seasons acting like she didn't know her. Kandi was just mad at Phaedra's blatant fakeassery
She did too with all that humming her and her mom did while eating in past seasons lmbo.... they did it so much I couldn't eat a bologna sandwich without humming and savoring the moment lmbo
Phaedra went there to check Kandi but got checked herself 😂😂 and then tried to plan a plot to destroy Kandi but only destroyed herself . “ you never win when you play dirty !” Linnethia leakes .
"You've got everything going for you... I don't know why you're so angry with me"..... That was pretty heartbreaking...Phaedra did go low with Kandi later in the season but she was a hurt woman.
4:38 you can tell Phaedra was shocked Kandi said that on camera. When she did that head nod you can tell she was thinking in her head: “oh that’s what we doing? Got it” And that was the moment she planned to get her revenge.
LaughingGemini hm. But she needs to be honest for once and publicly apologise for what she did and how she made us all feel. We can’t trust her as viewers.
The breakdown of Kandi & Phaedra started with Phaedra introducing Kandi to Todd. Todd developed a weird friendship with Apollo and stuck by him. The whole video thing was put on Phaedra when they had a deal with PHAEDRA & APOLLO. How about you ask Apollo for the money when he dropping 1k on strippers a night (that was from the horses mouth). Kandi stuck by her man and she used Phaedra going to Nene as the huge thing that broke up their friendship. I didn't see anything wrong with Phaedra talking to Nene bc Kandi was quick to befriend Nene when she called truce. If you watch the seasons you see where it all started.
I wholeheartedly agree. Kandi let her mother and Don Juan and the Kandi coated clique talk all this smack. When Phaedra and Apollo were going through their divorce Kandi chose Apollo over Phaedra cause Todd was friends with him.
@@sierramcclary2897 but shouldn't she be loyal to the friend that's like a sister to her? The very friend that introduced her to her husband? At the very least tell Phaedra I'm keeping your husbands things in my house
Refreshing to see an adult end the conversation and leave gracefully. Stated they knew the friendship wasn't there, only wanted to address the mom situation, wished her well and dipped.
But I wasn't referring to that so why would you even imply that? I am referring to other things Kandi did in her friendship with Phaedra and just because Phaedra was wrong doesn't mean that Kandi was perfect in their friendship because she was not. Kandi plays the victim a lot and never takes responsibility when she is wrong. She does this a lot on RHOA and she did that with her Xscape group on their show.
I am thinking Phaedra was really good friends with Kandi and she was so deeply hurt by Kandi not being a good friend to her after her divorce. As you can see she even said “maybe I loved you more than I loved my husband” that statement was so powerful and I just think Phaedra decided to cover how hurt she was by spreading rumors she heard about Kandi. I definitely don’t think she just made that up out the blue, she definitely heard it somewhere and repeated it to Portia.
Kandi always wanna have the last word and "end" something when she knows her and/or her mom and husband is dead ass wrong. Phaedra is very dirty no doubt but Kandi is not innocent and needs to stop playing victim.
Kandi is not perfect but she can’t be criticised for this situation, the conversation was one of nonsense and most people would have wanted to “end” it and “end” such a friendship also.
Sad part is Kandi was rude asf and hypocritical here she kept saying everything she said is true and what Phaedra said was bs but was the same person letting her mom run around disrespecting her cast mates her husband and her friends and enabled her. She hid assets of Phaedra’s husband from her and played dirty asf so she got what she deserved in the end. Kandi two faced asf she just like her mamma
Kandi was more upset with Phaedra over this petty stuff than she was with Kim stealing her Tardy for the Party money. She gave Kim a second chance but told Phaedra ✌🏽
When Phadrea said I'm the one that should be mad and then she started to explain!!! In my opinion she was telling.Kandie why she was jealous of her!! 🙃 👂 Listen when people talk folks 💯
Was she talking about her man or the fact that she didn’t want her man while portraying to be so hurt. Sounds like she was talking about her, not her man.
I feel kandi was tryna throw shade by saying phaedra wanted him gone so she can get remarried, that's shady I make jokes like that with my girls at the time to relieve whatever tension I am having in my personal relationship not for you to later throw it in my face as oh girl you not really sad cause you said this or that.
This is my point..Kandi is clueless to believe that phaedra wasn't feeling anything for Apollo to be going to jail. Let's say if it was true that phaedra had a new man..phaedra still had to deal with the fact that her children father will not be around for over 5 years. Imagine explaining that to your kids.
iiamkee21- No, the point Kandi was making is that while Phaedra was tearing up for everyone else, but she was telling Kandi about Mr. Chocolate and saying she was ready for the marriage to be over so she can move on(with other men). So, Kandi's like -- which is it? Are you upset or not?
Exactly , nobody can say shh about kandi but she is the worst and acts a innocent person and she cries at the drop of a hat. Over kandi. She never been interesting period
4:30 Damn Kandi was about to spill the true tea, but she was too classy to do that on camera. Phaedra was shooked here. Taurus got Scorpio all the way together.
IT'S KANDI'S FAULT GOTDAMNIT!!! Ok, I been said this shit from the jump. The breakdown of this friendship really started because of Kandi. Check it, Phaedra and Kandi were tight af, best gal pals.. stood up for one another against the other rhoa ladies, when they had some slick to say about one.. Phadra wanted Kandi to feel so fulfilled with happiness, that SHE even INTRODUCED her to Todd, a few seasons back when they were filming in South Africa. However, once Life blossomed for Kandi completely, i.e. Marriage, opening business, and baby, the bond she had with Phadra subdued to her new life with Todd. So much so that, when Todd befriended Apollo, and the two of them with Phadra included, worked on the workout video, that I guess Todd produced. But the backlash for nonpayment, went solely on Phadra, once Apollo went to prison. My whole thing is, Kandi and Todd so tight wit Phadra, but accepting collect calls from Apollo n shit all buddy buddy and even hiding his damn motorcycles in shit at they house, so the Feds wouldn't get to them, all unbeknownst to Phadra! But my whole thing is if Todd was so mad with phadra about not being paid, and acting all dramatic like he was swindled, be the same way with Apollo, as it was between all three of y'all. You can't just give Phadra the business while wearing Free Apollo paraphernalia n shit. Like C'mon. But back to Kandi ass, because of Todd's relationship with Apollo, and subsequent disdain for Phadra, it clouded Kandi's vision of how their friendship used to be, and she just rolled str8 with her dudes feelings, putting them first.. and imean I get it to a certain extinct, but damn Kandi, u still knew Apollo shit was hidden in y'all garage and kept that to yourself with no mention to Phadra, yo homegirl. I'm sorry this shit so long, but Phadra never really articulates the issue which was Kandi switched up on her after she started living her best life with her new family n shit. Then all this shit she was saying to Phadra on this video for the world to see, just calling her out on private conversations they shared amongst each other was whack af. U can tell Phadra really loved Kandi, I remember one episode they were talking I think trying to mend this friendship once before and Phadra broke down and cried and told Kandi, how she even allowed her in her delivery room where she was giving birth and how Kandi saw her coochie lol despite how private she is, which was just to say look bitch, I trust you and am comfortable with you, and you my sis. I'm sure Kandi felt the same way about Phadra, I'm sure of it, but like I said, Phadra introduced you to your now husband, and you rolled with him so hard that you developed his rubbed off disdain for Phadra all over a video he made that he ain't mad at all at her husband about for nonpayment, nah they Bffs in shit..Phadra I get it love.. it be like that, but then you took your hurt up a notch didn't you with the sex dungeon talk in Shit..?
Amen to your post 👏 I applaud for seeing both situations because I agree with you 100%. Kandi was a horrible friend to Phaedra. Kandi chose Todd and Apollo over Phaedra that was wrong for what she did. Apollo never took responsibility for his actions instead he blamed Phaedra and probably lied to Todd and Peter about Phaedra how she is a horrible wife and I am sure Phaedra was a good wife to Apollo it was Apollo who never appearciated Phaedra and took her for granted she was a good woman who came from a good family but that wasn't enough for Apollo he decided to ruin his own life and abandon his kids. He is the one who has ruined his reputation, his kids reputation and his kids lives who when they grow up might end up getting bullied and be constantly be reminded of their father's criminal behavior. I can understand Phaedra 's frustration and anger. Kandi did wrong she should have been there for Phaedra and not judged her and tried to understand but instead she picked sides cause she was definitely jealous of Phaedra and Nene's friendship. But instead Kandi and the rest of the other women were rejoicing in glee in what's happening to Phaedra. I understand Phaedra not wanting to take her kids to see Apollo in jail she doesn't want to disappoint her children who love their father. Trust me when Dylan and Ayden find out about Apollo's life, criminals way they will be angry and disappointed. I can understand Phaedra not wanting her kids to see Apollo in that state in a prison no kids wants to see their parent in jail even my own uncle from my dad's side doesn't want his daughter nor us his nieces to see to go visit him in jail and Todd and Peter should have understood Phaedra's point of view too. Todd I bet hasn't forgiven Mama Joyce for spreading rumors about his mother and father and is probably angry that Kandi never stood up to her mother for him and his mother he probably deep down has some resentment towards Kandi. Kandi and Todd might last or won't but Todd I don't see it lasting to be bad. Kandi ruined that friendship she was never there for her friend but Karma is a bitch one day it might end up being her in Phaedra's situation but worse and Todd might be the one who will go to Phaedra for help watch and see.
All of that!!! Not excusing the lie but idgaf what nobody say...she didn’t work alone. Network and production knew and threw her under the bus, they were apart of it.
Phaedra is the type of person who says everything is cool, but behind the scenes scheming to destroy you. Just say how you really feel, & leave the passive aggressive tactics at home.
Correct
@limited access nooo phaedra, a true snake, she act liké a White person.
No Reason .lol
She dis say how she felt the whole time. Nobody cared.
Anonymity Facts
As Kandi was getting Phaedra together, Phaedra was plotting in her head......
Boom! Big facts!
#FACTS...just like a damn SCORPIO...they sit back and plot their comeback
@@lamyraberry2458 And did that comeback work for her?!! 😂😂😂
Jax James my point exactly I'm not a scorpio ...they actually get on my damn nerves because they sit bk and be sneaky and plot and 9 times out of 10 the shit ALWAYS blows up in their face..
😂😂😂
The beginning was awkward asf
It seemed edited
It was edited that way.
Phaedra was her own demise. She failed to be honest with herself, she always hid her true feelings about Kandi, and wore a poker face. She was still hurt about Kandi hiding Apollo stuff in the garage. Instead of confronting Kandi and being honest about being hurt, she took the chance to hurt Kandi back but it hurt her in the end.
💯. Ding ding ding. You got it!
Phaedra got a lesbian crush on Kandi that's why.....
Kandi was an inconsiderate friend. Terrible friend. What is up with Nene's wig.
BrownGirlrep classic Scorpio
I don’t understand why Phaedra was mad at Kandi for hiding Apollo stuff. Apollo and Todd were good friends.
This is the moment where Phaedra planned Season 9
Yup
Isn’t this S9??
Devinn Edwards yes it was
@@1ddedde yass
Lol
Kandi did not come to play with Phaedra this day lol
pauline Kelly yassssss and Kandi usually loses arguments cus she gets all choked up but she got this one love her she my gurl
chile no lol. She had that stank face on at the start. I am rolling .
She didn’t do anything but her usual prance ... Phaedra held it down
Mykee Wattz Ghetto is what that is. Kandi doesn't understand true friendship. Why would she try to put Phaedra on blast on tv. And she feels if what she is saying is true I can say it. And you say Phaedra didn't tell her laundry list. I would have put her on blast.
Just wait until Todd leaves-who will she cry to
I don't care what anyone says. Kandi is number one when it comes to clearing up the mess. I freaking love her.
Expect the mess with her mama 😂
Yeah, Kandi tends to tell the truth even on herself 😂
She’s extremely effective getting Phaedra into place. But other events, she’s ok
“You know Kandi don’t drink. She remember everything.” 😂😂😂
Yep she speaks the truth
she ordered water only because she planned on reading Phaedra then dipping. 😂
The Angry Engineer Kandi does not drink at all never have
😂
Yep 😂😂
The Angry Engineer are you a sonic fan?
To all the people like "buT kAnDi dOEsNt DriNk" STFU...y'all act like iced tea wasn't on the menu.
I said what the fuck I said. 😂😂
That shade about Kandi loving to eat was weak cause Phaedra isn't so slim herself and Kandi look good. 😍
Taunna Tee I totally agree when Phaedra first joined the show she was very slim but them two babies she popped out and that dick she was getting got her weight up 🤷🏾♀️
@@mckenziepayne5185 Apollo look like he can put it down, the crazy ones have the best sex.... trust me I know.
Taunna Tee exactly
Taunna Tee That was hilarious because It had zero to do with size It was about how greedy Kandi Is😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Word
I love Kandi. She’s concise, pragmatic and to the point. She sees through BS and refuses to be manipulated. She also has a heart of gold. Phaedra is evil. Fake Christian.
Agreed!!
But when it comes to her mamma she loses all brain cells. SMH.
I love Kandi !!
Amen!!!! All FACTS
I LOVE your expansive vocabulary
NeNe should never wear that Frankenstein wig again.
What in the world was she thinking 😂does she have a mirror, good Lord😂😂😂
Nene and her struggle wigs .
Brenda LaprinceGoogle next I also thought she looked like the bride of frankenstine. LOL
Brenda LaprinceGoogle next 😂😂😂
Yes, her wig does look like the bride of Frankenstein!!
Brenda LaprinceGoogle next That shit was TERRIBLE 😂😂😂
This was the moment, I believe, Phaedra decided to plant the lie in Porsha’s head about Kandi, Todd and the fake sex dungeon. Kandi clearly won this showdown Phaedra set up. And without even trying deliberately to hurt her. And Phaedra was like “I will end you.”
Kieran Scarlett yup she a Scorpio they are very vindictive
Also, in that same episode Phaedra told Porsha that Shamea and Kandi were dating each other
Hell yeah
The very moment when things went down!
was Phaedra wrong for repeating the rumors she heard about Kandi to Porsha, who was the one who said it on tv? No. Y’all won’t admit it, but Phaedra wasn’t far off. Clearly the same rumors came out about Kandi’s best friends, Tiny & TI, about drugging and raping women yrs later. Phaedra was obviously onto something about how them celebs in ATL get down 🤷🏽♀️
Phaedra was shook...never win when you play dirty
Amen!
In the words of Nene Leakes
"This ain't Phaedra, bitch!! This ain't Phaedra!!"
@@xavierandrews5774Zactly.
Never!!!
Kandi was not here for Phadera bull this day like Kandi was over her and that conversation
90s lover ...Phadrea wasn't either,she was just letting Kandi know about how she felted about what her Mom said nd nothing else.But Kandi had to bring up other mess,which had nothing to do with what Pha was asking her about
Casandra Morrow that's couse kandi is worst for trown shade at u, and when it comes to FAMILY members could of been bit kinder about it.
I always like pheadra and still do over Kandi. Pheadra could not get word in at all with her. Kandi very cleaver specks louder faster known that's not pheadra way of talking back.
Give her no opportunity to say her peice, and she laughs all time like I don't give A fuck I have my muma Todd baby.
Her daughter told her she couldn't handle another baby that made her mad. U could see it in her smerky face
90s lover wassup
Trell Johnson hey wats up
Yes. She was over it all.
Basically Kandi was saying you were being fake with Nene acting like you were hurt about Apollo, meanwhile you had already moved on with another man.
Exactly
That part...
@@LeeDfinedu look familiar
I think Phaedra expressed that it was not about him specifically, it is the fact that the father of her kids is literally leaving and she is going to be a single mum, who would not be distraught by that?
*Phaedra's make up is ON POINT!!*
Kerra Johnson she needs it.
Always
I noticed that too
Her eye makeup and hair looks sexy af
Because it's more muted and nude as opposed to those pastels and bright colours she be trying to pull off. This looks much better on her.
Her parents got her a bodyguard. She lies as easily as she breathes. Just, wow! 😁
😂😂😂😂i'm disgust by her
Right!
I believe her
@@dannieisKING lmaooooo nah she lied cause eat the reunion she said that was the security she uses when she travels lmaoooo
@@dannieisKING well you're believing a liar. Drama said that he was going to blow her office up. Then Phaedra lied to cover it up, saying somebody called the police on him because Drama said his "album was going to be the bomb." This is not 2001. Nobody talks like that in 2016 when this happened
Phaedra didn't realize what a good friend she had. Kandi kept all her secrets, especially about Mr. Chocolate(cough*Jamal Bryant)
Lady T Jamal Bryant? ???? was that really true??
Pink Pearls I don’t believe it at all!
Lady T you better spill that tea girrrl
If she kept it it never would of came out 🤷🏽♂️
Still til this day
Why they put NeNe on camera with that wig 😭😭
Lmfaooooooooooooo
RJW 😂😂😂
Lol she was doing Broadway during that time
RJW I couldn’t take her serious when that shit
I KNOW RIGHT! I said gotdamm bride of Frankenstein! Hahahahaha
I think Phaedra showed her jealous side when she said “you got everything going for you” which is probably why she tried to take down kandi but failed
I felt the exact same. I always wondered what the particular reason was that Phaedra went so hard on Kandi to destroy her in the (let's be honest) criminal way she did. We're not talking harmless gossip. The woman was trying to actually ruin her, her livelihood, her family, even put her in jail w/that type of accusation. This moment showed her motive behind all that was straight up rooted in bitter jealousy. She saw Kandi having the life she wanted, and that she also felt she deserved. And top of that, Kandi managed to put Phaedra together, and that hurt her pride. That shows another level of evil, when you stoop to act on resentment in the violent and poisonous way Phaedra did.
What life did Kandi have that Phaedra wanted? Phaedra was already successful.
😂😂😂 Kandi had the last laugh.
@@djm4854 Scorpios can be dangerous
@@alldoodlesmatter6095successful at what?? 😂
Now how is she gonna say Todd is scraping for change when SHE is the one who couldn't give that man 5,000 that SHE owes HIM? Phaedra is so fake. Kandi spoke facts to her face.
It’s funny how Phaedra said “You have everything going for you”. “If anything I should be mad.” Sounds like she liked the fact that when she was with Apollo she felt like she had one up on Kandi. That is NOT a friend.
Huh? Connect the dots for me. Thia comment makes no sense.
I don’t see how you got that from what she said
That was her. Telling Kandie in so many words! Why she so Jealous of her.🤷🏼♀️😬
That was the beginning of her really saying. "Well let me tell you why I'm jealous of you"
@@snoopyco07 I’m so confused too like girl what are you talking about?😂😂😂
Kandi kept Phaedra’s cheating secret for seasons and only revealed it after Phaedra started talking about Todd. As far as the Kandi Koated Klique is concerned, she can check them a lil more, but she checks her mother lightly and respectfully. She tells her when she’s wrong, but Kandi has said multiple times she’s not gonna go in on her mom because that’s her MOTHER. Phaedra just should’ve admitted that she was pissed at Kandi and that’s why she made up the lie.
Tangi M. I want her to publicly admit it😩
Tangi M. You're right!
so wait a minute was it kandi who spread the rumor to cynthia and kenya that phaedra was sleeping with mr. chocolate? damn!
Kandi was a good friend to Phaedra. The gloves were off at this point.
Tangi M. ...Pha wasn't cheating nd when if she was,her husband cheated on her I'm sure multiple times but I truly don't believe Pha did that
Kandi can never keep her mom in check
Can any of us 🤦🏾♀️
Agree. Her mom is EVIL
Right
@@vegas9440 Yes some of us with morals... I keep her in check all the time
Sad to see 2 woman that was so close ..and friendship and over some messy bs🤔🤔
which is why I know Kandi isn't so innocent in this. Remember that employee that sued her? Kandi settled, and then sealed the settlement. She is not the sweet and innocent Kandi. Think about it, if she was friends with a snake to begin with.
Azoo Cola he sued her for no reason, because of Phaedra convinced him to do so. He was,getting paid . he started not getting paid because he didn't do his JOB. Wanted his 15 minutes. 😂😂♀🤦🏽
Phaedra was never a friend to her or anyone. That's evident. Phaedra has mental issues
Azoo Cola Exactly! Then why settle? Business move or not, I would have bodied him in court! Kandi counter sued for defamation and lost! That’s why that attorney said that he possibly had a case. So, obviously his entire law suit wasn’t frivolous! That’s why her turn over rate is so high at that restaurant. Want hard work but pay with crumbs!
@@azoocola1064 are you an idiot?
The hell did Nene had on her head at 5:12 lmao
Amancio Walker
She came from a play (Broadway) she said that
Season 7 I was laughing at Nene’s hair the whole season!
😂😂😂
looks like road kill
I can't stop crying.
Kandi is the kinda friend not to tell your business to ... cause when they get mad they spill all the tea...
Jay Speaks but according to her everyone else does it to her! I can’t make this shit up!
Says the girl that made a rape lie
Jay Speaks I'm sure Kandi got a lot on Phaedra. She kept a lot in during that reunion.
Jay Speaks ...right I agree,so two don't make it right.
Naw I dont agree with that. Kandi was very loyal and quiet when it came to phaedra. Until all the shyt between Todd & Phaedra so then she had to step in cuz thats her husband. Plus, kandi was getting drug wrongfully so that's when she shed light on some things. She didn't do it out of spite. She did it to protect her brand, her family and her name. And I understand that. You can only be loyal for so long if someone else is willing to throw you under the bus. 🤷♂️
&&Idc what nobody says that's Average and normal human behavior. If someone puts a gun to your head and forces you to tell some things most people would sing like a damn canary. And that's facts.
I think that Phaedra did love Kandi as a sister. I think that’s why she tried to get back at her.
That damn Gucci Finally someone who gets it. She was hurt. Not that what she did was right. People kill me when they say Phaedra is jealous of Kandi.
Chocolate Capricorn Yes!!! People don’t try to get you back if they never cared about you
I would hate to have a sister like her.
Yes, she may have been hurt. However, she could've come up with a million other lies.
You can see the hurt in Phaedra’s face the way kandi was so nonchalant about this whole situation. Kandi did interviews about Phaedra while Phaedra remained quiet and that showed she truly did love kandi and she wanted to repair the friendship
I bet kandi left that place and went straight to another restaurant to grub on LOL
I can't stand Phaedra but she look beautiful in this scene. makeup & hair on point ❤️
She really did.
She always wear extra extra thick makeup, to hide her real face clearly😂
I would have cried in front of that wig Nene had on too
I’m cryinggg
😂🤣🤣
Kandi did NOT come to play with Phaedra on that day. Okrrr!!
Kandi came wanting Phaedra to hold herself accountable and Phaedra came wanting to sweep everything under the rug.
Kandi did the same
@@tiffanygarner2229Kandi didnt need to be held accountable for anything.
Kandi needed to be held accountable for being unsympathetic. What she can’t grasp is this is why Phaedra went crying to Nene; imagine Kandi’s dry reaction when her tears would start to fall. This is similar to what she’s going through now with Marlo
Accountability doesn't equate to blatantly lying of people trying to ruin their name...
@benjaminevans4856 If I call you to check on you and you are in the middle of a divorce and you are telling me " girl I am seeing someone and we are getting married as soon as this divorce is over", a reasonable person would act like Kandi. It would be inferred that you have moved oh. Phaedra didn't think kandi was going to bring up that detail on the show which was why she was crying to other women who didn't have that information.
Kandi just will NEVER admit when that low down mother of hers is wrong!
It ain’t her job to correct her momma tf
That is right it is not Kandi"s job to correct her mother. So Phaedra should have CUSSED JOYCE ASS TF OUT!
@Auset Ausar oooookayyyyyy.... exactly, I don't know why they think Kandi suppose to diss her mother for them....I don't care how wrong my mama is I'm not checking her in front of no bitch
@@mspiesundee7202 LOFL 😂 😂 FFSE
@@brittniarchie9068 fact's......not her job at all. She can't control her mama or what she say.
Kandi is not a good friend. She can call people out but cant nobody say anything about how her mom is wrong. Wanna play victim when someone is attacking her but when tables are turned she get mad. There is no reason we needed to know this info in this convo. It wasnt even that type of situation. She just wanted to hurry up and say this so bad. It was burning through her throat to get this out. Not a real friend but cry about everything.
Kandi never holds her mom accountable, it’s Disgusting 🙄
Phaedra is miserable and did not expect to be read like that
Kandi said let's stop lol she meant it.
Truths were about to start flying like confetti.
5:04 Kandi hates Nene deeply. The way she said FUCKING NENE told a whole story 😂😂😂
I know how that feels 😂
They both hate each other idk why
Their relationship has always been up and down, off and on. 🤷🏽♀️
I don't think she necessarily said it out of hate- it just pissed Kandi the hell off because she was disappointed in Phaedra's hypocrisy to go crying and confiding in Nene of all people, the same woman who called Phaedra things like "not fabulous" and spent the first few seasons acting like she didn't know her. Kandi was just mad at Phaedra's blatant fakeassery
Kandi hate anyone who knows jer ass ain't innocent she's still mama joyce
Phaedra know she can be shady AF but her shades are funny lmao i heard you .."we know kandi loves a good meal" jeeeez🤣
LMAO!!!!
She did too with all that humming her and her mom did while eating in past seasons lmbo.... they did it so much I couldn't eat a bologna sandwich without humming and savoring the moment lmbo
Phaedra went there to check Kandi but got checked herself 😂😂 and then tried to plan a plot to destroy Kandi but only destroyed herself . “ you never win when you play dirty !” Linnethia leakes .
“ you had chocolate melting in your mouth and not in your hands honey” 🗣
That was a low blow kandi was very buck this season.
I don’t get it
@@GETYOUREDUCATIONwell how about this one she's known for being the "head doctor" she had a friend that was "pursuing her" that she named Mr.chocolate
@@jada9401 Ooop!👀
@@adamscameron64That wasn’t low it was true lmao
"You've got everything going for you... I don't know why you're so angry with me"..... That was pretty heartbreaking...Phaedra did go low with Kandi later in the season but she was a hurt woman.
Right there you can see the pain..
true
No! She was telling Kandie in so many ways... why she really jelous of her and why she envy her!! Down the line we seen what she did
@@shayholley6480 Phae was never jealous of Kandi.... that doesn't even make sense
Nope!! She was telling her why she hated her! That women is a demon and a 🐍 she wasn't that dam hurt!!
I'm sorry but Nene wig at 5:12 was the funniest part of the video, lol! 😂
love action looked like top ramen noodles 🍜😂
Lmbo
4:38 you can tell Phaedra was shocked Kandi said that on camera. When she did that head nod you can tell she was thinking in her head: “oh that’s what we doing? Got it”
And that was the moment she planned to get her revenge.
Kandi facial expressions be having me weak loll
Bring phaedra back! I know what she did was wrong but she brings certain elements and shade to the show that can't be replaced. Just my opinion
LaughingGemini hm. But she needs to be honest for once and publicly apologise for what she did and how she made us all feel. We can’t trust her as viewers.
LaughingGemini facts👌
I concur! ✊🏾
If Vicki pretends to have a cancer and return to RHOC or Theresa Guidice came back, it s fair to say that Fakedra can !!!
I agree
Phaedra is jealous of Kandi! She basically said it "you have everything Kandi".
That was sarcasm tho 😂
Exactly!!!!
Phaedra looks pretty
The breakdown of Kandi & Phaedra started with Phaedra introducing Kandi to Todd. Todd developed a weird friendship with Apollo and stuck by him. The whole video thing was put on Phaedra when they had a deal with PHAEDRA & APOLLO. How about you ask Apollo for the money when he dropping 1k on strippers a night (that was from the horses mouth). Kandi stuck by her man and she used Phaedra going to Nene as the huge thing that broke up their friendship. I didn't see anything wrong with Phaedra talking to Nene bc Kandi was quick to befriend Nene when she called truce. If you watch the seasons you see where it all started.
EXACTLY!
I wholeheartedly agree. Kandi let her mother and Don Juan and the Kandi coated clique talk all this smack. When Phaedra and Apollo were going through their divorce Kandi chose Apollo over Phaedra cause Todd was friends with him.
@@michaelkeenan5550 Todd was her husband. Of course she was going to stand by her husband
Kandi is a fake snake that’s why Phaedra go so hard on her
@@sierramcclary2897 but shouldn't she be loyal to the friend that's like a sister to her? The very friend that introduced her to her husband? At the very least tell Phaedra I'm keeping your husbands things in my house
Nene's wig @ 5:13 has to go down in a hall of fame. 😂😂
“Look at this fancy dress you have on” I’ve fallen and I can’t get up 🤣🤣🤣
Phaedra dissed kandi's outfit on the low duing 1st sec of video ahahah
Olof Olofersond lol she knew those flowers weren't fancy lmbo
The way phaedra said"look at this fancy dress you have one" was like girl what hell are you wearing
She Said "look at this fancy dress you got on" not One
05:28 Phaedra trying to hold back her laugh
Tory Takken lmao
Lmaooooo
@Tory Takken did you see how the asian waiter turned around to look in the background when Phaedra said that😂
the show is so evil it will kill marriages and friendships fast!!
Most of their arguing was done behind the scenes
Phaedra mad cause she couldn't use people!
Yaas Kandi well said.! Address, Got up Classy and walked out. Thats how you do it. Grown folks! Classy to the bone!
💯
I truly believe Phaedra when she said she loved Kandi more than Apollo.
So then that’s proves the point that phaedra wasn’t mad or sad at all when apollo left.
I am with you on that.
I believe they were having sex, look at how she got mad and said she was talking her business to NE NE.
I love Phaedra. Kandi's mom is a devil, but she refuses to acknowledge that.
Kandi's hair is so pretty💋💖
Kandi was serving body in that dress. " Legs and hips and body." 🥰😂
"Maybe I loved you more than my husband!" Phaedra couldn't even keep a straight face! ;-)
I love how phaedra tilts her head when she listens to someone 😭
It shows discomfort and agitation.
That laundry list comment was Phaedra snake ass warning
Fraudra doing what she does best...being messy
Steve L And the rest of bitches up there is messy especially Kandi and her trifling noisy ass mother
Kandi is low key one of the messiest ones on the show! She always running back info to somebody. She about 1-2 levels down from Sheree!
Fraudra 😂😂😂
And lying
@@chocolatecapricorn9418 the lies, the lies, the f'n lies
Refreshing to see an adult end the conversation and leave gracefully. Stated they knew the friendship wasn't there, only wanted to address the mom situation, wished her well and dipped.
Then the worst kind of betrayal AFTER all that.
Smdh
Nene’s hair in that flashback tho😂
Thank you, I have been looking for this classic sit down between these 2 for years. The way Kandi was looking at her is HILARIOUS 😂.
Phaedra did Kandi wrong
And that way I could never ever respect her especially with all the lies she made up on kandi
They both did each other wrong. Kandi plays the victim alot.
Exactly and Kandi was suppose to be her "best friend" ? Gtfoh phadrea is fake and shady asf
James Brock and tell you that maybe I loved you more than my husband ☺️
They did each other wrong
But I wasn't referring to that so why would you even imply that?
I am referring to other things Kandi did in her friendship with Phaedra and just because Phaedra was wrong doesn't mean that Kandi was perfect in their friendship because she was not.
Kandi plays the victim a lot and never takes responsibility when she is wrong. She does this a lot on RHOA and she did that with her Xscape group on their show.
I am thinking Phaedra was really good friends with Kandi and she was so deeply hurt by Kandi not being a good friend to her after her divorce. As you can see she even said “maybe I loved you more than I loved my husband” that statement was so powerful and I just think Phaedra decided to cover how hurt she was by spreading rumors she heard about Kandi. I definitely don’t think she just made that up out the blue, she definitely heard it somewhere and repeated it to Portia.
I don't know why you're acting like Phaedra didn't know who she was marrying. In addition to the fraudulent activities, she also played a part.
The stare down in the beginning is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Despite how this conversation ended, we all have to agree that Phaedra was right. Kandi mama was WRONG. That ain’t none of her business.
Amen amen amen!!!!!
Kandi always wanna have the last word and "end" something when she knows her and/or her mom and husband is dead ass wrong. Phaedra is very dirty no doubt but Kandi is not innocent and needs to stop playing victim.
Corijuan Reese I'm going to do malicious things towards you and tell you to stop playing the victim.
Kandi is not perfect but she can’t be criticised for this situation, the conversation was one of nonsense and most people would have wanted to “end” it and “end” such a friendship also.
Corijuan Reese epic
Corijuan Reese Thank you!! She is full of it.
King Coletin Exactly!! Kandi didn't get brave until Todd came along. Wait until he leaves.
Sad part is Kandi was rude asf and hypocritical here she kept saying everything she said is true and what Phaedra said was bs but was the same person letting her mom run around disrespecting her cast mates her husband and her friends and enabled her. She hid assets of Phaedra’s husband from her and played dirty asf so she got what she deserved in the end. Kandi two faced asf she just like her mamma
Phaedra definitely was wrong for all the jabs and shadiness, but I really hate their friendship went down like this. Damn I LOVED them together
Kandi was more upset with Phaedra over this petty stuff than she was with Kim stealing her Tardy for the Party money. She gave Kim a second chance but told Phaedra ✌🏽
Being accused of being a rapist is petty?
@@bez26like Fr. Even being accused could ruin your life
Can't hate on Phae her makeup, outfit and reads are so on point, 😍😍
Always!!!!!!!
Kresta Nge she needs it all her beauty is from a bag.
I just said that with her evil wicked ass!!
When Phadrea said I'm the one that should be mad and then she started to explain!!! In my opinion she was telling.Kandie why she was jealous of her!! 🙃 👂 Listen when people talk folks 💯
Yes I noticed that, very jealous but Ion understand why cause she claim 2 have all these jobs so...
I am convinced that Phaedra has visited Kandi's dungeon. 😂 There is so much emotion between the two ladies. This is deeper than friendship.
Oh yes lol
She won’t understand until she’s going through her own divorce…
Team Kandi. Phaedra is full of it.
Kandi like “Don’t talk about my man but let me talk about yours!” #hypocrite 🙄
Finally somebody sees it lol
Didn't notice that, wow.
Was she talking about her man or the fact that she didn’t want her man while portraying to be so hurt. Sounds like she was talking about her, not her man.
That awkward ass silence in the beginning
Miss Phaedra parks ❤❤❤
This is when Kandi needed Speak on it lol
Kandi always justifying everything her mama do instead of putting her mom in her place Mama Joyce low key messy fr fr#Yomamamessy#Putyomamainherplace
I love how Phaedra is always culm
kimberly Dube like a snake
Calm
A dirty lying snake.
kimberly Dube true sometimes makes me wonder if she’s really a Scorpio!💯🇯🇲
Queen Phaedra stays unbothered!
“maybe i loved you more than i loved my husband” 🤭✂️👩🏾❤️💋👩🏾 //.
“A lundry list” they so country 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I feel kandi was tryna throw shade by saying phaedra wanted him gone so she can get remarried, that's shady I make jokes like that with my girls at the time to relieve whatever tension I am having in my personal relationship not for you to later throw it in my face as oh girl you not really sad cause you said this or that.
This is my point..Kandi is clueless to believe that phaedra wasn't feeling anything for Apollo to be going to jail. Let's say if it was true that phaedra had a new man..phaedra still had to deal with the fact that her children father will not be around for over 5 years. Imagine explaining that to your kids.
Exactly!!!! Kandi try to play innocent and far from it! That's why Phaedra got the last kaboom!
V Green Phaedra is a liar
She is a hypocrite. I don’t know why people cant see it!
iiamkee21- No, the point Kandi was making is that while Phaedra was tearing up for everyone else, but she was telling Kandi about Mr. Chocolate and saying she was ready for the marriage to be over so she can move on(with other men). So, Kandi's like -- which is it? Are you upset or not?
The way Kandi said Nene's name.... "... in front o-- in FRONT of FUCKING Nene" 🤣
20 seconds of pure silence
Kandi is very one sided about things, she can do things that no one else can. She did Phaedra wrong too.
Exactly , nobody can say shh about kandi but she is the worst and acts a innocent person and she cries at the drop of a hat. Over kandi. She never been interesting period
That moment when you get left alone at the table is always funny to me lol...
This is why I’m glad Nene said what she said 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Nene: "I TRY." BRUH!
I believe fadra when she said she loved Kandi than her own husband
Lmao
The root of Phaedra’s problems with Kandi was revealed at 3:32. “You got everything going for you”
4:30 Damn Kandi was about to spill the true tea, but she was too classy to do that on camera. Phaedra was shooked here. Taurus got Scorpio all the way together.
IT'S KANDI'S FAULT GOTDAMNIT!!! Ok, I been said this shit from the jump. The breakdown of this friendship really started because of Kandi. Check it, Phaedra and Kandi were tight af, best gal pals.. stood up for one another against the other rhoa ladies, when they had some slick to say about one.. Phadra wanted Kandi to feel so fulfilled with happiness, that SHE even INTRODUCED her to Todd, a few seasons back when they were filming in South Africa. However, once Life blossomed for Kandi completely, i.e. Marriage, opening business, and baby, the bond she had with Phadra subdued to her new life with Todd. So much so that, when Todd befriended Apollo, and the two of them with Phadra included, worked on the workout video, that I guess Todd produced. But the backlash for nonpayment, went solely on Phadra, once Apollo went to prison. My whole thing is, Kandi and Todd so tight wit Phadra, but accepting collect calls from Apollo n shit all buddy buddy and even hiding his damn motorcycles in shit at they house, so the Feds wouldn't get to them, all unbeknownst to Phadra! But my whole thing is if Todd was so mad with phadra about not being paid, and acting all dramatic like he was swindled, be the same way with Apollo, as it was between all three of y'all. You can't just give Phadra the business while wearing Free Apollo paraphernalia n shit. Like C'mon. But back to Kandi ass, because of Todd's relationship with Apollo, and subsequent disdain for Phadra, it clouded Kandi's vision of how their friendship used to be, and she just rolled str8 with her dudes feelings, putting them first.. and imean I get it to a certain extinct, but damn Kandi, u still knew Apollo shit was hidden in y'all garage and kept that to yourself with no mention to Phadra, yo homegirl. I'm sorry this shit so long, but Phadra never really articulates the issue which was Kandi switched up on her after she started living her best life with her new family n shit. Then all this shit she was saying to Phadra on this video for the world to see, just calling her out on private conversations they shared amongst each other was whack af. U can tell Phadra really loved Kandi, I remember one episode they were talking I think trying to mend this friendship once before and Phadra broke down and cried and told Kandi, how she even allowed her in her delivery room where she was giving birth and how Kandi saw her coochie lol despite how private she is, which was just to say look bitch, I trust you and am comfortable with you, and you my sis. I'm sure Kandi felt the same way about Phadra, I'm sure of it, but like I said, Phadra introduced you to your now husband, and you rolled with him so hard that you developed his rubbed off disdain for Phadra all over a video he made that he ain't mad at all at her husband about for nonpayment, nah they Bffs in shit..Phadra I get it love.. it be like that, but then you took your hurt up a notch didn't you with the sex dungeon talk in Shit..?
Amen to your post 👏 I applaud for seeing both situations because I agree with you 100%. Kandi was a horrible friend to Phaedra. Kandi chose Todd and Apollo over Phaedra that was wrong for what she did. Apollo never took responsibility for his actions instead he blamed Phaedra and probably lied to Todd and Peter about Phaedra how she is a horrible wife and I am sure Phaedra was a good wife to Apollo it was Apollo who never appearciated Phaedra and took her for granted she was a good woman who came from a good family but that wasn't enough for Apollo he decided to ruin his own life and abandon his kids. He is the one who has ruined his reputation, his kids reputation and his kids lives who when they grow up might end up getting bullied and be constantly be reminded of their father's criminal behavior. I can understand Phaedra 's frustration and anger. Kandi did wrong she should have been there for Phaedra and not judged her and tried to understand but instead she picked sides cause she was definitely jealous of Phaedra and Nene's friendship. But instead Kandi and the rest of the other women were rejoicing in glee in what's happening to Phaedra. I understand Phaedra not wanting to take her kids to see Apollo in jail she doesn't want to disappoint her children who love their father. Trust me when Dylan and Ayden find out about Apollo's life, criminals way they will be angry and disappointed. I can understand Phaedra not wanting her kids to see Apollo in that state in a prison no kids wants to see their parent in jail even my own uncle from my dad's side doesn't want his daughter nor us his nieces to see to go visit him in jail and Todd and Peter should have understood Phaedra's point of view too. Todd I bet hasn't forgiven Mama Joyce for spreading rumors about his mother and father and is probably angry that Kandi never stood up to her mother for him and his mother he probably deep down has some resentment towards Kandi. Kandi and Todd might last or won't but Todd I don't see it lasting to be bad. Kandi ruined that friendship she was never there for her friend but Karma is a bitch one day it might end up being her in Phaedra's situation but worse and Todd might be the one who will go to Phaedra for help watch and see.
All of that!!! Not excusing the lie but idgaf what nobody say...she didn’t work alone. Network and production knew and threw her under the bus, they were apart of it.
Blandina Malinzi nah he forgave Mama Joyce. Just be smiling in their faces. Better than me, I just can’t fake it.
You sound dumb as hell