Gaming accessories are generally feature focused rather than focusing on doing a few things well. It really is the Achilles heel of a lot gaming focused companies. Don't get me wrong, some of the features would be amazing to have if they were built into more headphones that are audio quality focused.
Great video man, I had the Zero Reds for a bit (gave them away in the video review for them) they were a solid set and there's so many good IEM options for gaming within the same price range. IEMs are definitely an option gamers should consider.
I’ve settled on red ones, but I’m still thinking about blue ones, my limit is $50, which ones do you use now for games (and not only music, for example) or which ones can you recommend for choosing?
The original ones (blue) are better for first-person shooters. Red is better for music and more immersive gaming. I still use my blue ones occasionally.
My ears are pretty ok with the iems I have the blue version and the reds on the way, but I find discomfort when using for too much time, or just using them with a bad overall silicon shape/type for my ear, I found the best option for my ear to be the middle sized silicone cups, anyways either way the small size for some reason hurts my ears, the big ones aswell, also the cups affect the sound quality a lot for example I can say for sure that the middle sized cups on the left side of the box sound better than all of the other ones, while the middle sized cups on the right side feel the most comfortable
I wanted to know that they come with removable mesh, is there a filter behind it wnd is it removable or not. I wanted to know because i was looking to buy those and my only concern was how would i clean them but if they have a removable filter, it would be a blind buy for me.
Not sure about the effects of the sound card, but I would get the Crincle Zero (Blue version) if you mainly focus on gaming, and zero red if you listen to music as well
For competitive gaming, yeah the og is better. i have both. But not like the red is bad in that aspect, blue is just better. For casual gaming, both are equal. But the red could be better for some games.
I have my reds on the way, But I can talk about the OGs are awesome for gaming, I will try using the bass adaptor from the reds with the OGs maybe even better :D
@@zerotactix5739 hi there. I am confused between red vs blue. Which one to pick? I have only budget for one. I would use it for pubg, valorant , Apple music on my Android, normal media consumption like TH-cam and web series.
DACs convert digital information to sound that we can hear. AMPs are for providing power to your audio equipment. You don't need an AMP for the Zero:REDs or IEMs in general because they don't require a lot of power. You don't necessarily need a DAC either. You'd really only need one if the audio coming from your current output (3.5mm jack on your phone or laptop for example) is bad, but if that's not the case then you're good. Just plug these into your audio port and you'll be good.
I have the same problem in terms of comfort with other iem, wore them for more than a month, tried dozens of different tips, but still, something feels wrong. Do you have any iem headphones that are comfortable for you?
@@TechTicals I was talking more about wired iems, I tried airpods and other iems with same form factor but never really loved the sound, and delay is always there even if it's low
@@suncake_xd TANGZU Wan’er fits me best and provides me with most comfort, but I don't think the seal is the best but its nice. I came from truthear holas and I had the original Crinacle Zero and found them uncomfortable. All are ears are different though so do keep that in mind.
Just today I tried my new Simgot em6l (110€) vs my 150€ Sennheiser HD560S and theyre absolute fucking trash, like its not even close. Sending them back directly, didnt even wear them more than an hour
@@TechTicals I have the Super Mix 4 on order as well, hoping that they’re better. I skipped the Truthear x Crinacle in order to „be set“ for a while (skipping the 50€ iems to go straight to 110€ ones) so underwhelming. Going back to my HD560S, who granted, are boring af, but extremely clear and precise, was like removing mud from my ears after wearing the em6ls. When I put the em6ls in first and just joined a deathmatch to try them out i literally exclaimed loud „holy shit they’re so bad“
I just bought them, but the volume is really low for me.. even I tried on different devices, maybe mine cames wrong? do you use them at 100% on windows?
Many IEM have high resistance due to the built-in driver they use and most phone does not have enough power to drive it. You will typically need to increase your phone volume up to 90% inorder to get a decent volume from the IEM. Try getting amplifier like moondrop Dawn Pro, it will make your iem sound even better.
Hmm... I am not sure if IEMs can beat my gaming headsets. But price to performance? Yes, I have 2 Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless ones and they are like a gem. One on a PC for FPS titles And another on a Sim Racing Rig.
I personally prefer wireless headsets all day, I like the convenience , I’m using Audeze Maxwell, but compared to most gaming headsets I’ve used, these $50 earphones sounded better.
@@TechTicals From Rtings, Audeze Maxwell Wireless is pretty good and the Steelseries has better Neutral Sound (Overall) and Gaming. Sound in terms of imaging, sound stages and distortions etc. I got the Steelseries Pro Wireless mainly due to the fact that it has a charging dock and I can swap the batteries for continuous gaming experience. As a Esports player who races 24 hour Online Racing races, the charging function is very helpful for me. But again, comparing a USD 299.99 Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless to a Mid/Entry tier IEM, plus maybe a HyperX Solocast USD 59.99, you can get a 240USD IEM and still won't break the budget. You can also invest in software or amps and make it even better. So gaming ones are more like feature oriented and tries to multi-tast, while IEMs just do the simplest thing as a headphone/earphone right.
You haven't tried IEMs then, because gaming headsets like yours are actually just a pay to the brand and are not anything special when it comes to sound quality, the wireless factor and comfort is good as I also have wireless headsets, but the IEMs sound quality is unbeatable within the price range of your headset I can assure you even these 50$ IEMs even tho they sound like IEMs that cost 300-400$ beat any gaming headset in sound quality, and footsteps audio in games, i personally have logitech g pro x wireless headset, hyperx wireless headset and sony wireless, and I can assure you none of these beat these 50$ IEMs that I got 2 weeks ago, I use them for gym aswell as gaming, and they are my mains, I have my red version on the way that I will use only for gym and music
@@sincariucarturalbert1275 I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-LS50iS IEM $85USD and they do not beat the Arctis Pro Wireless in terms of bass, neutral, and treble accuracy. Using Rtings, a trusted comparison website with tonnes of tests. The best open back monitor headset from Audio Technica is ATH-R70X that cost $350USD. If you put the Arctis Pro Wireless so called "Gaming headset" next to it, it has better Bass and Treble accuracy than the ATH. Your G Pro X does not even come near to the Arctis Pro Wireless, just change the search results and see for yourself. Bass Accuracy is a score of 9.1 vs 7.9. Mid accuracy 9.2 vs 9.0. Treble accuracy 8.0 vs 7.7; Peaks and dips, Imaging are all losing to the Arctis Pro Wireless by a HUGE margin. It mainly lost to the Steelseries from Standard Deviation due to the inconsistency of results. All the graphs, tables, are on Rtings website. Just type "Arctis Pro Wireless VS G Pro X" on Google and click on Rtings.com to have a look. I don't know what HyperX and Sony you are using, let's say you are using a HyperX Cloud III Wireless, the latest and best one from HyperX. it is still worse than the Arctis Pro Wireless by a huge margin. Bass accuracy: 9.1 vs 6.9; Mid accuracy 9.2 vs 9.3; Treble accuracy: 8.0 vs 7.4. Again, all the details and graphs are on Rtings. I am not saying the IEMs are bad. But the statement of "Even $50 IEMs are better than the best of Gaming Headsets" are wrong. The Arctis Pro Wireless is not even the strongest headset from SteelSeries now, they updated it and released it as Nova Pro Wireless. Here is the Rtings website as a proof: This is comparing the best of the Monitor headset of Audio Technica VS the Arctis Pro Wireless "Gaming" Headset. www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/steelseries-arctis-pro-wireless-vs-audio-technica-ath-r70x/751/1955?usage=19&threshold=0.10
@@sincariucarturalbert1275 I do have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-LS50iS IEM which costs around $85USD. The Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless headset is better in all frequency response. It is even better than Audio Technica's best Open Back Monitor Headset "Audio-Technica ATH-R70x" in Bass and Treble Frequency according to RTings. And the G Pro X does not even come close to the audio quality of the Arctis Pro Wireless. Just look up RTings and play with the comparison tables. Idk why my previous long comment with details and proof got removed. Just google "Arctis Pro Wireless VS G Pro X" and choose the RTings page.
I dunno, maybe get a decent 50$ mic along with the Zeros and you will get something that sounds better than what the headphone offers. (Even Crinacle says this btw)
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Gaming accessories are generally feature focused rather than focusing on doing a few things well. It really is the Achilles heel of a lot gaming focused companies. Don't get me wrong, some of the features would be amazing to have if they were built into more headphones that are audio quality focused.
Completely agreed, the headset still has very convenient features, but when it comes to sound, it is not close.
Great video man, I had the Zero Reds for a bit (gave them away in the video review for them) they were a solid set and there's so many good IEM options for gaming within the same price range. IEMs are definitely an option gamers should consider.
You're awesome! :D
I’ve settled on red ones, but I’m still thinking about blue ones, my limit is $50, which ones do you use now for games (and not only music, for example) or which ones can you recommend for choosing?
The original ones (blue) are better for first-person shooters. Red is better for music and more immersive gaming. I still use my blue ones occasionally.
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which ones r better for that price for gaming?
I don't think you have small ears. I think the IEMs just have a big ass nozzle diameter. That is probably the reason for discomfort.
Lol
Y si, la verdad si esta grande la boquilla
My ears are pretty ok with the iems I have the blue version and the reds on the way, but I find discomfort when using for too much time, or just using them with a bad overall silicon shape/type for my ear, I found the best option for my ear to be the middle sized silicone cups, anyways either way the small size for some reason hurts my ears, the big ones aswell, also the cups affect the sound quality a lot for example I can say for sure that the middle sized cups on the left side of the box sound better than all of the other ones, while the middle sized cups on the right side feel the most comfortable
good to know, thanks
Very good video and can confirm, the truthears sound pretty amazing. For your main shots, would recommend dimming the red light a bit.
Thanks for the feedback, will do
Truthear zero Red works best at gaming while using the Base+ adapter.
Yes, I was only using it with the adapter.
is it good for fps gaming such as valorant or cs ?@@TechTicals
get some foam 3rd party foam ear tips, they're a game changer if the included ones are uncomfortable.
Good to know thanks
If ur ears are small, i would recommend moondrop Jiu or Sennheiser IE200.
Thank you, for now im happy with the audeze maxwell, but im interested in trying the IE200
I wanted to know that they come with removable mesh, is there a filter behind it wnd is it removable or not. I wanted to know because i was looking to buy those and my only concern was how would i clean them but if they have a removable filter, it would be a blind buy for me.
They come with extra filters so its safe to assume you can remove them
The blue should be better for gaming
Considering trying that out too
@@TechTicals their great theres also the kz prx or pr2 that are really good for imaging
should i get the crincal zero 2 and use my hyperx sound card or spend 30€ more for crinacle zero reds.
Not sure about the effects of the sound card, but I would get the Crincle Zero (Blue version) if you mainly focus on gaming, and zero red if you listen to music as well
To me, for gaming, IEM is 85% of audiophile headset (H58X) and better than 99% of gaming headsets.
Ok, I got the Crinable Zero, after EQ, this match, and surpass in some ways, my HD58X.
Is the OG or the red better for pure competitive FPS ? More bass can mess up footsteps imaging no ?
I hear the OG is better, I haven’t tried it so not sure. Try it on Amazon, you can swap it if you don’t like it.
For competitive gaming, yeah the og is better. i have both. But not like the red is bad in that aspect, blue is just better.
For casual gaming, both are equal. But the red could be better for some games.
I have my reds on the way, But I can talk about the OGs are awesome for gaming, I will try using the bass adaptor from the reds with the OGs maybe even better :D
@@sincariucarturalbert1275any updates?
@@zerotactix5739 hi there.
I am confused between red vs blue. Which one to pick? I have only budget for one.
I would use it for pubg, valorant , Apple music on my Android, normal media consumption like TH-cam and web series.
Hello, im thinking of ordering these, but, i see people saying they recommend a DAC/AMP to use them however, are they fine without it?
They are more than fine without it, pretty sure that’s just an improvement.
DACs convert digital information to sound that we can hear. AMPs are for providing power to your audio equipment. You don't need an AMP for the Zero:REDs or IEMs in general because they don't require a lot of power. You don't necessarily need a DAC either. You'd really only need one if the audio coming from your current output (3.5mm jack on your phone or laptop for example) is bad, but if that's not the case then you're good. Just plug these into your audio port and you'll be good.
I have the same problem in terms of comfort with other iem, wore them for more than a month, tried dozens of different tips, but still, something feels wrong. Do you have any iem headphones that are comfortable for you?
The Apple AirPod Pro 2 is very comfortable for me, but it is not really a suitable product if you use windows.
@@TechTicals I was talking more about wired iems, I tried airpods and other iems with same form factor but never really loved the sound, and delay is always there even if it's low
@@suncake_xd TANGZU Wan’er fits me best and provides me with most comfort, but I don't think the seal is the best but its nice. I came from truthear holas and I had the original Crinacle Zero and found them uncomfortable. All are ears are different though so do keep that in mind.
Comparing any headset or headphones to even 50$ iem is a crime. Iems much better than all of them period.
In terms of sound quality, yes
Just today I tried my new Simgot em6l (110€) vs my 150€ Sennheiser HD560S and theyre absolute fucking trash, like its not even close. Sending them back directly, didnt even wear them more than an hour
@@PrimusInvictus interesting
@@TechTicals I have the Super Mix 4 on order as well, hoping that they’re better. I skipped the Truthear x Crinacle in order to „be set“ for a while (skipping the 50€ iems to go straight to 110€ ones) so underwhelming. Going back to my HD560S, who granted, are boring af, but extremely clear and precise, was like removing mud from my ears after wearing the em6ls. When I put the em6ls in first and just joined a deathmatch to try them out i literally exclaimed loud „holy shit they’re so bad“
@@PrimusInvictus would be interesting to know what you settle with
I just bought them, but the volume is really low for me.. even I tried on different devices, maybe mine cames wrong? do you use them at 100% on windows?
Many IEM have high resistance due to the built-in driver they use and most phone does not have enough power to drive it. You will typically need to increase your phone volume up to 90% inorder to get a decent volume from the IEM. Try getting amplifier like moondrop Dawn Pro, it will make your iem sound even better.
I used them around 60% on my laptop, and 80% on my phone, with the included adapter, definitely loud enough for me
nice vid. I like this guy
Thank you, appreciate it
nice love it
Hmm... I am not sure if IEMs can beat my gaming headsets.
But price to performance? Yes,
I have 2 Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless ones and they are like a gem.
One on a PC for FPS titles
And another on a Sim Racing Rig.
I personally prefer wireless headsets all day, I like the convenience , I’m using Audeze Maxwell, but compared to most gaming headsets I’ve used, these $50 earphones sounded better.
@@TechTicals From Rtings, Audeze Maxwell Wireless is pretty good and the Steelseries has better Neutral Sound (Overall) and Gaming. Sound in terms of imaging, sound stages and distortions etc.
I got the Steelseries Pro Wireless mainly due to the fact that it has a charging dock and I can swap the batteries for continuous gaming experience.
As a Esports player who races 24 hour Online Racing races, the charging function is very helpful for me.
But again, comparing a USD 299.99 Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless to a Mid/Entry tier IEM, plus maybe a HyperX Solocast USD 59.99, you can get a 240USD IEM and still won't break the budget.
You can also invest in software or amps and make it even better.
So gaming ones are more like feature oriented and tries to multi-tast, while IEMs just do the simplest thing as a headphone/earphone right.
You haven't tried IEMs then, because gaming headsets like yours are actually just a pay to the brand and are not anything special when it comes to sound quality, the wireless factor and comfort is good as I also have wireless headsets, but the IEMs sound quality is unbeatable within the price range of your headset I can assure you even these 50$ IEMs even tho they sound like IEMs that cost 300-400$ beat any gaming headset in sound quality, and footsteps audio in games, i personally have logitech g pro x wireless headset, hyperx wireless headset and sony wireless, and I can assure you none of these beat these 50$ IEMs that I got 2 weeks ago, I use them for gym aswell as gaming, and they are my mains, I have my red version on the way that I will use only for gym and music
@@sincariucarturalbert1275 I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-LS50iS IEM $85USD and they do not beat the Arctis Pro Wireless in terms of bass, neutral, and treble accuracy. Using Rtings, a trusted comparison website with tonnes of tests. The best open back monitor headset from Audio Technica is
ATH-R70X that cost $350USD. If you put the Arctis Pro Wireless so called "Gaming headset" next to it, it has better Bass and Treble accuracy than the ATH.
Your G Pro X does not even come near to the Arctis Pro Wireless, just change the search results and see for yourself. Bass Accuracy is a score of 9.1 vs 7.9. Mid accuracy 9.2 vs 9.0. Treble accuracy 8.0 vs 7.7; Peaks and dips, Imaging are all losing to the Arctis Pro Wireless by a HUGE margin. It mainly lost to the Steelseries from Standard Deviation due to the inconsistency of results. All the graphs, tables, are on Rtings website. Just type "Arctis Pro Wireless VS G Pro X" on Google and click on Rtings.com to have a look.
I don't know what HyperX and Sony you are using, let's say you are using a HyperX Cloud III Wireless, the latest and best one from HyperX. it is still worse than the Arctis Pro Wireless by a huge margin. Bass accuracy: 9.1 vs 6.9; Mid accuracy 9.2 vs 9.3; Treble accuracy: 8.0 vs 7.4. Again, all the details and graphs are on Rtings.
I am not saying the IEMs are bad. But the statement of "Even $50 IEMs are better than the best of Gaming Headsets" are wrong.
The Arctis Pro Wireless is not even the strongest headset from SteelSeries now, they updated it and released it as Nova Pro Wireless.
Here is the Rtings website as a proof:
This is comparing the best of the Monitor headset of Audio Technica VS the Arctis Pro Wireless "Gaming" Headset.
www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/steelseries-arctis-pro-wireless-vs-audio-technica-ath-r70x/751/1955?usage=19&threshold=0.10
@@sincariucarturalbert1275 I do have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-LS50iS IEM which costs around $85USD. The Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless headset is better in all frequency response. It is even better than Audio Technica's best Open Back Monitor Headset "Audio-Technica ATH-R70x" in Bass and Treble Frequency according to RTings. And the G Pro X does not even come close to the audio quality of the Arctis Pro Wireless. Just look up RTings and play with the comparison tables.
Idk why my previous long comment with details and proof got removed. Just google "Arctis Pro Wireless VS G Pro X" and choose the RTings page.
without a mic how can it be recommended for games?
The video is about the sound quality in game, the headset still has many good features, when it comes to sound, the earphones are better.
You can buy a replacement cable with an inline mic or even one with a boom mic. Searching for one with a boom mic showed me the "Kinera Celest Ruyi".
I dunno, maybe get a decent 50$ mic along with the Zeros and you will get something that sounds better than what the headphone offers. (Even Crinacle says this btw)
iem cables are replaceable brother. Kinera Gramr wire is an example and the mic is much much better than most gaming headsets out there.
Without a brain, how can you function? 😂
Why would someone pay 150+ usd for headphone hair, headaches, bad sound and hot ears and irritation around the ears 😂 I swear, gamers are idiots.
It is the wireless options and the attached mic that takes my interest, I spent a long time looking for IEMs that have both, but no proper options yet