exactly. the other fact is that most of the extremely rich die hard star wars fans are mostly dead by now. this would've been a success probably 15 years ago.
Its even more outrageous when you realise that you can stay in the actual hotel in Tunisia where all the scenes of Luke's house on Tatooine was shot for MUCH cheaper. Even if you include travel costs it would still be cheaper than this two day experience.
The insane price also covers the pay for all the actors who seem to be around all the time. They created something for insane starwars nuts, the nuts who had the money went and now im guessing no one is willing to spend 6k for 2 nights.
@@TheHollowBlade I am a massive Star Wars fan (older sw) but those prices are for really specific people with specific amount of income added to their fanatism. as much of a fan the amount of cost to stay there you could probably travel and visit galaxy's edge twice for 2 international people. they need to make it more accessible instead of simply shutting it down but I dont really know how expensive it was to maintain a place like that
I love the idea of a murder mystery where it feels like I get to interact with people in some sort of fantasy world, but I can do that at a freaking renaissance fair or a LARPing event for a fraction of the price Disney wants me to pay
Yea I mean you're paying for the copious amount of actors that are with you for 16hrs a day, for 2 days. I believe the price is for a room and you could split that with like 4 others in your party.
Nickelodeon tried this years ago and it was a stinker. People just can't seem to grasp that themepark novelty hotels are always overpriced, terrible or both.
I stayed, it was really fun. You got to do like side quests and stuff. Could choose between good and evil missions. I ended up in some "illegal" gambling ring after doing an evil mission and got to play in a tournament.. It was really cool. Def not worth 1.2k a night, If they could get the price down to 500-800 a night Id prob do it again just to pick different missions. We paid 1,200 a night per guest. So 2400 for a couple per night. 4800 total.
@@spiderace7994 Its 1,200 per guest, a night. A couple is 4800 total. A family of 4 would be 9600. Im not sure if theres a discount for kids under a certain age. I dont remember seeing any.
really, wtf is with people hauling the newborn off to di$ney land with their horde of crouch goblins. Listen, di$ney is absolutely the natural environment for crouch goblins, but wtf are peoples mission haulin the freshly harvested potato to the park? Is it a migration thing? Instinctual? Is it a "the children are now at the impressionable age where we take them to di$ney, just as my parents did. I shall follow in the ritual to haul them off, and attach my fresh spawn to my hip for the process." And I always feel bad for the newborn, cause getting hauled around that way is heckin stressful - you're supposed to den up with the harvested bean and nurture baby, and bond with baby. Not try to shove baby in Tiggers arms, cause no cast member wants that lawsuit
Everybody in town was so excited to try this hotel. Every taxi driver I spoke to wanted to take their kids there. All that talk immediately died when the pricing came out.
Yeah, they likely would've made more money if they didn't think in short-term greediness, pricing things a lot of money to make more money is a goofy thought process, it doesn't really work, at least not as well as pricing things lower does. If they priced it lower, more people will go there cause they'd be able to afford doing so, and as more people go, the money generated from it will surpass money made from the smaller amount of higher paying customers.
It was the main issue with it cus as much as everyone complains about the hotel being a prisson it is actuly a really cool experiance but its nowhear near worth the amount of money they where asking. like it was even more money than staying 2 weeks in one of there other hotels with acsess to all the parks it just makes 0 sense why they made it soo expencive. I can see them eather removeing all the larp elements from it and turning it into a more normal hotel for a more affordable price or turning it into a attraction than people attending the park can just go to.
Price’s dynamic with supply vs. demand is a funny thing. A Disney built Star Wars theme hotel is an extreme case of an “Elastic Demand” product/service that will likely be used in economic case studies and college courses.
my best friend was a cast member here and loved it and put his whole heart into it. he was so heartbroken but everyone knew it was coming. they weren't booking up, the story stayed the same and there was no incentive to return.
I’m glad Disney is getting broke. Films are getting worse and woke right and left. It’s being unwatchable and trying too hard to have diversity and inclusion. Always focus on race and gender. ‘Disney deserve this.
@@tjohnnyf7100 Grow up. It's pandering and bad writing not diversity that's the problem. You perma virgins swoon over Leia and Lando but since 2016 now you're all arm band wearing bigots. Get out of here. Star wars has always been overrated, it's just gotten worse.
Well it was terrible. You're forced to do a two day stay, rooms smaller than Budget Inn, of course he was heart broken.. his job was to walk around doing nothing all day.. if he's that lazy tell him to come up to SW VA and join in on this gang stalking program against me.. basically you get paid to do nothing all day and pretend you're some hardcore "good guy". LOL.. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
It's like companies and influencers are out to get as much money out of people as possible to have that perfect wealthy life-- except, there are only so many people you can milk money from... and with everything we already have to pay for? No, they can take their 5000/night hotel and bounce on that dick up their own asses.
You're not spending time in there more than necessary, it's not the point. It's everything else. That would be like giving a cruise a negative review after choosing to hole up in your cabin the whole time.
@@karlthorkildson4650 Sure, that's fair. Except the experience is also shite, and not worth the money either. Charlie explained all of that in the video. It's not just the room, it's everything, but the room is absolutely part of it.
@@felixgodden5455 Have you seen any videos of people actually visiting it? Yes there's the live theater aspect. You also get to interact with all the cast members throughout the stay as they walk around. But the biggest thing is that you get an app on your phone that gives you all these quests that you can to do throughout the "ship" and you can choose to be one of the different factions on board. It actually looked pretty fun. Not $6k fun, but still fun.
My dad worked on this project, and all that work and hours he put towards this went to nothing. This news was just sad to hear, especially since he helped engineer the star cruiser for almost 2 years, and never got to actually even see it or visit it once.
Who cares? He got paid for the job didn’t he? Not like he’s contracted to stay with it forever. He doesn’t have a stake in it. As long as something doesn’t break and hurt/kill someone, what does he care? Not his problem if it shuts down tomorrow
"An expensive, confusing, jumbled mess" It's honestly impressive that Disney managed to get the exact feeling you get from watching on of the sequels and turned it into a hotel, frankly astonishing
I just love the first instinct of Disney is to close it down rather than change the 6k pricing to something more reasonable like 1500 for the 2 night but even still that a premium trip for 2 nights
I think it’s just an unsustainable experience. The cast members have to be in character 24/7 and I’m sure it’s hard to find people willing to do that tbh. It’ll probably reopen as a regular hotel instead of the dumb cruise ship thing it is now.
Yeah I honestly couldn’t fathom how they came up with the price justification. Family of 4 is around $750 per guest per night to get that $6000 figure over two night stay. How could anyone justify this? All you get is a hotel, a couple paid meals (no booze) and a few “Star Wars” themed events which essentially boils down to you waiting in your hotel or in the restaurant until it’s your time to do a scheduled activity. Sounds boring AF to me, especially for $6K
As someone who works in guest services for the mouse , the few times I'd get calls from that resort it was always complaints even the most diehard fan boys were like ya the acting was ok but we didn't get any blankets in our room and it's really small and or my kids hungry how can we get more food. Plus I cringed every time I had to say may the force be with you so I just started taking the QA hits for not doing it unless I was talking to an excited kid or something
@@lesigh3410 yup that or have a magical day to end the call for every other type of resort but it's like a school grading scale so it just takes a few points off instead of an A I'll get like a high B grade etc.
@@lesigh3410 unfortunately it's like that for most companies I've worked for (the big ones anyway I've worked for Apple, Verizon,etc. They all have their own little rules like that . Thats that customer service life like how GameStop used to force employees to sell those power up rewards cards as an example
But Charlie, it has STAR WARS in its name. How can you not empty your life savings to experience what it's like to be in a cramped, ugly starship in the STAR WARS UNIVERSE. It's like I'm REALLY IN STAR WARS, and I'm also POOR.
Yah "hey come to our star wars hotel where you will see characters like Chad the ship janitor and Bill the pilot of this random ship no one's ever seen" then they wonder why people don't care
disney knows theres a shitton of rich people who have no issue spending thousands to stay in this place. the problem is disney lost them with the 2 night maximum stay and ugly, tiny rooms. if they just made a super nice expensive star wars hotel (and not a theatrical “experience”) it would be a massive success.
I worked at Disney World and I learned the main thing Walt wanted was an affordable place for people to take their families. Ever since his passing they wanted more and more money so now it’s just gift shops and monetizing ANYTHING. Hell, my family and I got together for frozen 2 and when we saw that little lizard we immediately said “they added this lizard so they could make plushies and sell it.” What did they do? Make plushies and sold em. It’s disgusting now. They don’t care about family or magic anymore. Whenever you get a magical moment it’s because of the cast member not the corporation. I made magic cause I liked seeing people have a good time, and it’s been so easy to make it because everything is so pricey. When I saw a very dehydrated person I gave out free water cause why would you pay $3.50 - $5.00 to survive the Florida heat? It’s disgusting.
Now that’s happening with Stan Lee. These fucking snake corporation wait for the creators to pass away. To milk the living fuck outta theirs property’s. I’m convinced all this company heads are going to hell for greed.
No passion is my main complaint these days. A depressing amount of entertainment these days just reeks of “I was held at gun point by my boss” or “the director doesn’t actually like the source material”
It looks like Henry Cavill was fired from The Witcher because he actually cared about and had passion for the show and source material. The director said she actually found him annoying.
You can spend two nights in a fully furnished room at a 5 star hotel in the middle of New York's financial district for ~$2000. Add on maybe an extra $200 per person for 3 meals a day for room service (but even thats pushing it), would still be less than $6000. Disney's price is absolutely ludicrous
a fully furnished room in a 5 star hotel in new York's financial district doesnt involve 24/7 RP from a large band of cast members, with storylines for the residents of the hotel. It also doesn't involve an entire seperate entrance to a theme park to give quick queues to rides *Not completely justifying the $6k just saying.* Those painting this equivalent to a normal hotel need to look up what it actually was
@@SaigesArstgo1031 Except from the v-logs I saw, you interacted with very few of those cast members and none of them were characters anyone would know. Most of the cast seemed to work a few hours during the show portions. Plus you only got to go to the theme park for part of a single day like an excursion on a cruise. If you were actually interacting with Luke, Han or even Kylo type characters the whole time, that is one thing. Instead it was some random in makeup that no one ever heard of for the most part.
I think the cramped windowless rooms were supposed to be an “authentic” experience, like what you might actually find on an intergalactic ship’s living quarters. That’s cool and all, but that price is still absurd. At the end of the day it’s still an objectively small and comfortless room and deserves to only cost as such.
You were paying for the experience/actors around you 16hrs a day, not the room that you spent basically no time in other than sleeping. It probably could've been a bit bigger, but I don't think that was the main issue.
Ngl a vault Tech themed hotel would be sick, if they threw in a pipboy replica and a jumpsuit id pay six grand to fight off radroaches, hell yah i would.
I always find it hilarious how companies that change focus to become more profit centric often end up losing profit. Its almost like treating your customers like sacks of blood you can drain like leeches is a bad idea
And they never learn from it either, they will just blame it on "the economy", or "people trying to raise the minimum wage", and then go about doing the same stupid shit again.
simply put, a lot of profit centric companies saw that it would work in the past and they think that they can get away with it now. Companies like EA or Disney could produce the sloppiest piece of work that they have ever done and still make money off of it back in the 2000's or early to mid 2010's because their name on the product was enough to sell it to a lot of the consumer base, so they did that. Now a lot more people are wary of what they produce after being fed slop for years, the out of touch executives think that it is just a phase and the customer will still buy whatever they are selling.
But now they all have amazing ESG scores to get better credit rating from lenders, which they’ll need to take out all these loans to make up for their massive profit losses.
The funniest (and darkest) thing to me is that the Starcruiser apparently didn’t want guests to have any type of tech that connected to the internet iirc, so the people doing press for early access couldn’t show it off. And about midway through the first run was when Ukraine first got attacked. So imagine being press out of the loop, walking out of that hotel and immediately being bombarded by news on a war crisis XD
Rumors between cast started saying it was gonna be 1k a night and we were mostly laughing because there's a loooooot of Disney bloggers that spreads lots of bullshit. But when it was revealed, you noticed a lot of us just... Not talking about it anymore. Disney's priority since return from covid. They've worked cast to the bone, many departments had a year + of mandatory 6 day work weeks. I even had to take a hit on my attendance just to go to a scheduled operation. It was nice, covid brought out so much soul sucking behavior. They removed locations (called hubs) so staff was getting more and more randomly assigned to places/areas they never did. Guests were regularly getting abandoned for hour-hour 1/2 waiting for a bus. Disney stopped giving a shit about a lot, but especially the cast. Union has done nothing but let it get worse. People have speculated the union is in their pocket now days.
This is at the Florida park? If thats the case if you stay there I don't expect that treatment to continue given the fact that Disney is in hot water with our state govt. Would be a real shame for them if they caught wind about something like that happening. Especially what you stated thinking the union is in their pocket. That's disgusting if it's true. Hope you recovered from your operation and it didn't burden you with your work too much. These are the kind of stories that get my blood boiling. Especially having been mistreated by employers in this state. Wishing you the best going forward.
I swear disney has the biggest annoying PR Cell everywhere in social media and ruins any nuanced discussions. If you don't consoom their XYZ content, everything just reduces to you're some -icsts. There is no way the top voted comments on relevant reddit subs, twitter are organic, and only serves to inject copium onto impressionable kids. And just as Charlie pointed out the moment the content gets released, suddenly those posters become silent until the anticipation of the next disney content. It is hilarious people unironically think prequel trilogy was good now, that acceptance has only enabled even worse content.
Its a cruise without the cruise and it’s set in the worst starwars era that all the real fans claim isn’t part of the timeline. No idea what the target audience was.
All the "real fans" is a weird thing to say out loud. They wouldn't keep pumping out merch and movies if it didn't make them $$$, and that means people like them :D you're just old!
@@TheVoicesOfTheBeyond no! I just think these greedy companies wouldn't make content if people didn't watch it! They want money. The things they make must make money, otherwise they'd stop.
@@queensaladini6731no they push out the new trilogy crap to block out the idea of the originals and prequels it’s kinda like if there’s two drinks a company owns and they want to sell the one everyone hates so they stop advertising and showing the one everyone likes so you get the better than nothing motive
Back when I was a kid my Dad took us to Disney World for $4,000 for TWO WEEKS and saw every single park multiple times. This is insanely overpriced lmao
My sister is currently working here and has loved every second of it. Her and her coworkers pour their hearts into their characters and try to make the experience worth the ridiculous price tag for those staying there. Sad to see it go for their sake.
If the hotel was affordable, more people would be able to go and even return, and they'd make more money. The price tag can never be justified. We're in the middle of inflation too,.
@@bearysorry5009 For a short time, yes. Trump didn't force small businesses closed to the point of bankruptcy though. That was Biden, and it was 100% intentional.
I had no idea that this was a thing. Just looking at the photos though it looks like the inside of a shipping container. It's impressive how Disney can take any IP and make it over saturated, poorly organised, and then mark it up with a 6 digit starting price.
Funny you say "shipping container". You should look up the Galactic Starcruiser shuttle, which was basically a box truck the starcruiser guests get piled into to simulate traveling through space between the starcruiser and Galaxy's Edge in the parks. No windows or anything. You sit on jump seats in a small darkened box with some more space decor. It's an even closer experience to sitting in a shipping container.
I really just feel Bad for the workers. They didn't know they would be losing their jobs until the rest of the world found out. And i know they work so hard to be in character and to bring immersion to the people that stayed there. :( I just hope they are able to find jobs somewhere else and soon 🖤
@@grandmoffjake6871 I hope so, I know most of them (like performers) are on contracts, so I hope there's no complications for them especially and they are able to get performance jobs elsewhere on property
This terrifies me. One of my good friends girlfriends is spending her entire college career working towards becoming a Disney imagineer. It's her dream job and she would do literally anything for it to come true, but when you hear of stuff like this you just worry for her. She's putting all of her focus on a job that may not even exist 5 years down the line, not to mention the chance of becoming one period is already thin
That is a reasonable fear to have. To be honest, it feels like this kind of job isn't going to be very present in times to come thanks to how Disney keeps tripping over its own feet. So long as they think that buying out companies to use their IPs is a good idea, they'll keep going down the hole. Unlike most people who seem delighted that this happens, I don't want this to happen. Disney is something that is supposed to give everyone creativity and delight with their creations. People seem twisted into this belief that burning everything we've had is a good thing because they can create something new. I just want to see people like your friend be creative, have fun with their work, and keep giving people a smile. Sorry, that was a lot, but that's kind of been weighing down on my mind.
One of the things they messed up big on is that you’re not visiting planets from the movies. You’re just in space. It’s set in the sequel era of movies but you don’t meet any of the characters from the older movies
Or the current movies! That's what was always so brain dead about it - even if you like the Disney trilogy there still isn't much there for you in this offering. Total ineptitude!
One of the things Disney messed up big time was the cost for it. Rather than having a lower price to attract more people and more revenue, they decided that 6k was somehow acceptable.
Disney acquiring Star Wars was honestly one of the worst things to happen to Disney, Star Wars, and the public at large. This is just another failure to add to the pile that is the dumpster fire they created. EDIT: There is a user in this comment chain who claims I have said that Disney acquiring Star Wars is worse than the holocaust. Before you respond to them, understand later in the comment chain they admit they have autism. I don't blame them for taking what I said 100% literally, as this is something autistic people struggle with. Have some compassion and do not badger them.
They already ruined the reputation of Star Wars when they released the Sequels........... (now they're trying to fix it with TV shows on Disney Plus lol)
@@tehfan66 You can't pretend to be creative, that's why they will never make anything worth warching when it comes to SW again. If you aint got the talent you shouldn't be making movies.
When they say it’s a “business decision” they mean exactly what you’re saying, that it was a bad business move. The reason they’re saying that is to take blame off of the creative folks. They’re saying “it’s not that our creative team didn’t do well well, this just doesn’t work as a business model. It’s not their fault”
So my best friend got to do this (for free mind you so take it with a grain of salt) but he LOVED it. You absolutely HAVE to be a big star wars fan to enjoy it, because the whole stay is just you being a part of the universe. A couple things you commented on, the screens in the room actually do show cool stuff, as other people complete their missions around the ship, your cabin window’s actually show stuff they are working on, so the whole “ship” is 100% interactive. For instance if someone is on a turret shooting at asteroids, the whole ship is going through an astroid field and you can see the blaster bolts shooting at asteroids. There is also secret rooms and stuff that have actors and stuff to do in them that aren’t even like advertised about so its very open world feeling as opposed to tour feeling. Now obviously the price was insane but after he got to do it, he and I immediately started saving to get to go in 2 years but obviously now we won’t get to :/
Honestly, they should have taken inspiration from gacha games. Cheap price to stay but have products which people would pay for because the experience is so good
Yep everyone that did it loved it, and many did it twice. The price was a bit more reasonable when you split it with a few people. You're paying for the many actors surrounding you 16hrs a day.
A major oversight with this thing was that by choosing to do it in the sequel trilogy and right after the last jedi, they alienized three quarters of the Star Wars fanbase because everybody already hated that shit so much that they wouldnt go to anything relating to the sequel trilogy. Just think for a second how cool it would have been if you were on the death Star or a Star Destroyer or the Jedi Temple and you could see your favorite Jedi like there is so ,much potential here for something awesome but they totally shit the bed by the making it some random ass spaceship that doesnt even feel like Star Wars it just feels like an off brand knockoff. It really is a shame because this idea had the potential to be incredible but because they still wanted to market their new trilogy they ended just making something that nobody would want to go to. And like your saying it was fun, the people that went had fun, its just that the single fact that it was in the sequel trilogy already eliminated 70% of the fanbase from going. Also btw Charlie was talking about only super fans of Star Wars going to this but I guarantee no super fan is going to this, no super fan would go to a sequel trilogy hotel that had bad marketing and was incredibly expensive unless they are going to make a review, its just not happening which is kinda funny seeing how Disney didnt realize that they actually had to make their movies good if they wanted people to come to a 6,000 dollar trip based solely on their movies. But because their movies were not enjoyed by the majority of the fandom and really the majority of the world, in turn that means the majority of the world is not gonna wanna go to this because it just keeps reminding them that nothing they love about Star Wars is here.
@@thesnipingspider3852 I am echoing this, you're not paying for just the room. If you don't know about the other aspects of the experience you're falling for negative marketing. It's another thing if you're saying that kind of experience isn't for you.
$6000 to do nothing. $6000 to sit in your room all day until you either go get a meal or do a scheduled activity like “light saber training” for your kid or go meet one of Disney Trilogy characters for an autograft. Remember folks, this whole thing is built around the sequel trilogy, so it has nothing from the OT or prequels, no Darth Vader or Obi Wan or Clone Wars or any of the stuff people actually like.
@@gergyta9211yeah. if they had like a 0 gravity thing, like one of those machines that spins you around, and the cost was about half, and the food was BOMB, then maybe I could justify splurging on it as a once in a lifetime thing and chiding myself for the rest of my life for wasting so much money. As is? Absolutely the fuck not
@@bethanybosworth yeah, and maybe have the ability to leave when you want lol. Sometimes immersion is great, but there’s a point where it gets too much lol
Ron DeSantis is a garbage person who hates Disney for the wrong reasons, but Disney failing is still a good thing. I don't want to live in a world where Disney acquires every semi-popular franchise and pumps out soulless cash grabs from each of them for the rest of my lifetime.
TL;DR since this comment got long: I actually knew people who helped create and were actors at the resort. It’s honestly very sad it’s ending, there was so much passion put in it listening to the designers and project leads talk about it. But, even listening to it, we could tell that it was SUPER expensive and no matter how much you loved it, it was a stupid amount of money, I’m pretty sure it was thousands of dollars to go. EDIT: Because Charlie and many others seem confused on what this is. It was WAY more of a show than a hotel. A hotel is like the last thing this thing should be advertised. The whole point was that it is filled with actors and with some app, you would go on missions, meet actors etc, and it was like a chose your own adventure come to life. The person I knew played as the “smuggler” aboard the ship. You could get some… Star Wars object I assume, and then meet with him to get him his smuggled item, and continue a quest, or you could turn it into the imperial guard and act as a spy on board the resort, or you could help the rebels, etc. it was basically a crazy intense themed show. You could also not participate and just stay on the resort, but the price is for the show above all else. A lot of the actors came from an improv background and would have mics in their ears, and an entire behind the scene crew would tell actors where they had to go to meet with guests. You’d get a message like: “meet with greebo sheebo at 6 pm” or soemthing. That way the actors could meet with individual guests, but yeah, they had a whole team of people behind the scenes managing it as well while the “show/resort” went on. Some people came in cosplay and would play characters too, obviously the super fans. It’s not surprising price killed it. I thought it was a super cool idea, and I loved the passion everyone who worked on the project I talked to had behind it. But even loving the idea and Star Wars, there’s no way I’m paying an actual fortune for the experience. It’s just super sad knowing it failed for the people involved. EDIT 2: Since it’s blowing up if people want even more info on the attraction: There would be a director on site while the whole thing went on. They also did have a live singer there as well I believe. Not mention many many staff. If something went wrong, a guest missed a meet-up time, an actor got sick, etc. they would have the director and writers quickly write up a continuation of how the show could go from here for that guest. They also of course relied on the improv talent of the actors involved. A story. I think when the smuggler character got sick on day, he couldn’t go into work, so they had written that for the guests involved in his quest that he was under suspicion and being interrogated by imperial officers for questioning. They even informed imperial officer actors so that if guests were acting as spies, the imperial actors would mention something like: “we’ve even captured a suspected smuggler aboard the ship named *sick actor character’s name* who is being questioned now” so if guests mingled with each other, even people who never really hang out or mingle would here about their “npc actor” being captured, from a fellow guest, making the world seem to blend with even fellow guests. The sets were expensive to make and run. Your phone would open doors, had a unique ID, I believe like an “inventory”, and other stuff. They also had a command bridge AR/VR game where I think you could shoot tie fighters and stuff like that.
If they had based it on lore that people cared about instead of it being a generic space story they would have made bank. KK's insistence on killing anything related to the original star wars is what undid this - and that's the real tragedy because I too know people involved. It was always doomed to be a failed effort because they picked a story and characters no one cares about!
Thanks for the more in-depth background on this project as a whole. Man, it is pretty sad to hear how much love when into it. Shame that the price and advertising ruined it. (Hopefully doing it for a year will look good on ppls resume at least!)
@@DocNo27No they wouldn’t have. No matter what they did, this was destined to fail. I’m sure there was a reason why the prices needed to be so stupidly high, so I’m sure that not even lowering the prices would’ve worked.
Dude I was born in 81. Star Wars was my childhood, along with Indiana Jones. To see this fail, and for the most obvious reasons, is just heartbreaking. Star Wars is supposed to be for everyone, not just the wealthy. It would take me and my partner literal years, with our humble retail jobs, to be able to save up for this kind of experience. That's wrong. Lucas never would have wanted that. Lesson one: don't price out your fans. This is the result...
The portion sizes for fine dining is usually because of how many courses there are and how calorie dense the food are. You can have a 10 course meal and each plate of a bite size food is like 300 calories, at the end of the course you're 3000 calories full of wine and butter.
heres a fun fact about fine dining, the reason the plates are so small and expansive is they spend months perfecting those annoying menus, wasting alot of food in the process, and since they need to make profit off that practise and all the waste they made, they make small beautiful portions at a very high price, so they can still make profit. been working with fine dining for years and its horid.
Personally I like the concept, including the constant dinner-theater thing, but Disney is already well outside my budget -- this was so INSANELY expensive that I knew I'd never get to see it [altho I didn't expect to see them close it in a year]. The other thing is that from what I saw from videos at launch, OFFICIAL videos, a lot of the set/props were super cheap and generic; not really what you'd expect for what was being touted as the ultimate Star Wars immersion. The gift shops in the parks looked more movie-ready than some of the Galactic Cruiser stuff. Overall, I feel like they executed poorly across the board -- they cheaped out, made it inaccessibly expensive, and didn't let it run long enough to maybe make money. Companies are so focused on instant profits that they seem to forget sometimes you need to spend money in the short term to make money much longer term...
One of the biggest issues with the Star Wars hotel is that Disney refuses to give people the old characters that people love and there stuck in the Disney trilogy timeline of movies that most Star Wars fan don’t care about
Imagine if it was clone wars! Heck if they really wanted to, they could have clone voices pre recorded before had by either Dee Bradley Baker or Temuera Morrison (personally I prefer Dee Bradley Baker) for the clones and then have live actors for other characters.
I absolutely would have LOVED to go there, but when I saw the price, I about had a heart attack.. it left me feeling hopeless that I would never get to experience much of what Disney has to offer because everything there is so expensive.. 😕
The magic in Disney died long ago. I was born and raised in SoCal and me and my family would regularly go to Disneyland since I was a literal infant, and just this spring we went to Disney World for the first time. For me the magic wasn't the location or all the rides we went on, it was just the fact that I was having a good time with my family and making lasting memories with them. I considered myself blessed by God for growing up in a family that went on annual trips since before I was born, an example being we would go to Yosemite every single spring until my freshman year in high school, but in the case with corporate themed hellholes like Disneyland/World, I only got joy from being with the people I loved and having a great time. I also heard my acceptance to the college of my dreams in the Avatar section of the Animal Kingdom, so there's that too. But personally, there really isn't that break from reality in the parks anymore that gave it so much life and whimsy. It's all marketing.
That also just sounds like part of growing up, but you are right that the magic of Disney does become less and less easier to believe as you get older and everything is so expensive 😅
eh, sounds like you were never a fan of theme parks to begin with. The theming is still there, and it's still great for the most part. I prefer the non-film tie-in aspects of the parks, but many fans do enjoy being immersed in their favorite films.
@charliemalick yeah, if you’re not going during the dead season, there will be a wait. I went in early February and we got to ride whatever we wanted multiple times.
I think the small rooms are immersive to the spaceship experience. If it wasn't for the insane pricetag I, and I think a lot of people, would have loved to try the experience. In regards to the food, the small portions sizes in fancy restaurants are compensated by the fact you get a lot of courses (usually 6-7).
I actually love the design of the rooms. I'm a huge sci fi/space nerd. But it isn't star wars. It's very much more like...how cabins in a military ship like in the honor Harrington universe looks.
If it were really immersive, they'd just blow the whole place up along with everyone in it. At the very least have someone bust in and shoot a few people while everyone cheers.
You know, when i think of Star Wars, i dont think about a starcruiser hotel experience, i think of space battles, space to ground assaults. Imagine being on a ride that starts you off on a star destroyer and lands your shuttle on a planet, right in the middle of a battle, that'd be epic!!
The obvious problem is the "1% Club" price and that pool of customers is relatively miniscule. At that point, you are competing against Monte Carlo, Boca Raton, and a lot of other places I don't know because I am not rich. These things always have the air of 'Executive Pet Project' where everyone but the boss knows its a bad idea even before the project launches.
I love how Disney seems to be going through the same phase they did when Micheal Eisner was CEO. "One day [Disney CEO] had millions of dollars and a really bad idea."
at least when he was the CEO all of the ideas were silly, memorable, and something everyone would collectively laugh about 30 years down the line, now all of the bad ideas going defunct are just disappointing and even sad
Can you imagine the unbearable amount of cringe the staff had to deal with? All the movie quotes and one liners they must have endured from guests that thought they were saying the most funniest thing ever.
In actual fine dining restaurants, the ones with tiny portions are typically because you’re getting 8-12 courses as part of a pre fixe menu. I have eaten at quite a few places with menus and portions like that and neither me nor my husband have ever walked away hungry. They give you lots of good quality food, they just focus on the fact that your tongue basically goes blind to the flavor of a dish after you’ve taken a few bites, so they give you a wide variety of flavors instead. The main courses of those menus are usually bigger though just to ensure you leave feeling satiated.
I was never into Star Wars but one of my favorite things from them was the parodies people were doing like Spaceballs, Robot Chicken, and Family guy. Now because of Disney we can’t have that. ☹️
Would it not be a bad idea for Disney to spend money and time on a new hand-drawn animated film? It seems like they're spending money and time on the wrong things. I couldn't even fathom how much money they would make from fans creating a new classic with old-school art. Fans would go wild
It for real sounds so cool but the cheapest like one night option that I looked into was 5,000.... And the real experience one was 25,000. It was bound to fail completely.
“Disney overdosed on Skuma” is just a combination of words I didn’t know I needed to hear, but I’m glad that I did today. Charlie, you are truly a wordsmith in another class
My family went to Disney World recently and we saw this online before going, but with the absurd price we didn't stay at this hotel. Even if you consider the experience they try to add on to it this is just outrageously overpriced.
As someone who stayed there (it was my Dad’s 50th birthday present, I surely wasn’t gonna pay for it), here’s my thoughts. Tl;dr: there were definitely some cool parts, but other parts were a little lackluster and others outright shit. So overall I think it was definitely overpriced. Things I really liked: - The bridge simulation and all the mini games in it were really cool and I had an absolute blast with them. The lightsaber training activity was also pretty cool. - The food was honestly pretty good, even some of the weirder stuff tasted pretty good. - All the staff did a really good job of staying in character, even down to the wait staff at the diner table help sell the environment. - The environment of the hotel itself was really impressive in person. Things I’m mixed on: - The room: the space was plenty enough for the 4 of us, the bed I slept on was plenty comfortable and the space window thing was cooler in person. That being said the robot you could contact on the panel was lame, and could only respond to basic prompts. Being a Computer Engineer with a concentration in machine learning and knowing what generative models like ChatGPT are capable of AND how much resources the imagineering team has their disposal, this was a wasted opportunity for sure. Things I hated: - The whole interactive quest line thing was lame as fuck. It was basically a bunch of IRL fetch quests, and you could choose to side with the rebels or empire but it ultimately didn’t fucking matter. There were a few areas locked behind progression in these quests, but you could get in anyways by tagging along with someone who had access. The stuff you did with the phone was also gimmicky in very lame way. Just a really stupid idea all round.
The thing is this concept of room sounds more like a capsule hotel. You could easily make this from that molded plastic like yotel. Easy to clean and maintain, small rooms. You could even squeeze in interior rooms with the screen and make those the lowest price point. Boy did this miss the mark.
@@EEvtg To go more than once at that price point they must have money to burn haha! I just think the concept lends itself more to a budget hotel. They could scale back on the full on immersion entertainment.
@@JackRogers-x9e It's shutting down because it was marketed poorly. As Charlie said, many did not fully understand why it was so expensive. It's possible that the business model was destined to fail, but the actual experience was great for those that did it. Also, there returning CEO has cancelled most of the projects of Bob Chapek, so it's really no surprise he's not interested in it; It's not his project.
@@darcymoon2109 Yea many of them had discounts from being annual passholders/DVC and split the cost with a few friends. I agree that it could've worked at a lower cost with less roleplay/entertainment.
I REALLY wanted to check it out. But, as mentioned, I had NO clue what the hell a stay there would entail and the prices were outrageous. Especially when compared to the other lodging options. Even the really damn nice ones. I'm down with a Star Wars themed hotel, but a two day LARP would probably be a little much for me.
You mean the Disney pumping out billion dollar movies and continually taking market share from netflix? Im not advocating for all the things they've made, but ya can't really argue they're going downhill when they're more successful than ever..
As a lyft driver, I picked up a dad and a kid that looked like 13-14, I asked them about their experience and the dad loved it while the kid was EXTREMELY indifferent about it... I was like damm the kid didn't even like it... They spent 11k on a 2 person trip just for the kid to say it was ok 😂 I was like damm kid probably liked playing Fortnite for a night than going there 😂 RIP dudes pocket 😂
4:51 Better yet, the next Star Wars hotel will be an authentic experience of the prison from Andor, where you will be forced to work and tased if you don’t
Charlie please go in person to give us, the loyal audience, a grand Star Wars hotel experience. I think we might need an in-person review of this and you’re the best candidate.
The combo of hotel and theater works at cross purposes from a business perspective. A themed hotel is going to be expensive to build, but once built expenses can be ramped up and down more than most businesses. But theater is largely the opposite, You need enough audience to make the expense of salaries, sets, and costumes worth it. together you have this huge upfront cost for the building as well as ongoing expenses you can no longer cut down on.
They actually themed the hotel after the sequels!! That's some great business idea it's not like people hated the sequels. I almost think they wanted that to fail.
They really missed the chance to make the rooms actual ships, imagine staying in a suite that's essentially the millennium falcon and mid trip you wake up to alarms and have to do the Han Solo/ Luke Skywalker gun turret scene climbing down into a moving turret that's essentially a enclosed video game chair and screens that make it feel like your in a fire fight with movement and shuddering.
@@jimmyjon9970 What many fail to understand is while they infact do exist to make profit and not solely cater to customer satisfaction, they have to do both otherwise they'll inevitably lose tons of money.
Blows my mind when I look at their rooms and beds and realize that even Capsule Hotels in Japan are much more comfortable than this at only a thousandth of the cost per night, and some even manage to have a far better sci-fi aesthetic look for cheap than this...
80% of the time when Disney launches something Star Wars related it always manages to blow up more in their face then the last 3 movies at this point I’m convinced they are working on a JarJar tales of the Sith TV show
No joke, the hole-in-the-wall cells in the prison in the new Andor series looks just like those bunks but actually smaller here. The prison looked nicer in the show. You can't make this stuff up man lol
This was also the doing of their old CEO (former Parks head) who was absolutely killing their parks division. It makes sense that with the change in leadership that they’d just axe this.
I wanted to go so bad. I was looking forward to the announcement of the pricing so much that I had been saving up expecting it to be a bit high because it's like 54 hours of immersive interaction. I was deflated when they announced the price and new I would not be able to stay until they lowered the price. Clearly it wasn't popular and I am saddened that I will never experience it because I have heard it is fun, but the price tag is just so outrageous someone who is making even a decent living can't justify this price. I could go on an actual Disney Cruises for 10 days with a second person 6k. It's just wild that they thought that price point would work. Even with it shutting down I am sad because the concept was my childhood hail marry of awesome.
It's like Disney saw those "Capsule" Hotels in Japan and just went: "Maybe we can do something like this but while we're at it, we're gonna throw the practicality card out of the window, give our rooms this cheap sci-fi/art deco mashup aesthetic to make people think they're sleeping in some shack in Tatooine or in a ship and we're gonna charge a thousand bucks a night for each members of a family". No wonder why the hotel is on the verge of closure.
This reminds me like how Mr. Krabs announced Krabby Land and getting everyone Excited, until it was a complete Disaster. They really do be looking like Prison Cell.
The thing about small portions is that they often form part of a tasting menu when you might have 8-9 courses including wines and palette refreshers - having on occasion been to a 2 Michelin star restaurant for this.
Hey, penguinz0! Would you ever consider talking to a former Disneyland Cast Member who was a part of the opening team of Galaxy's Edge? I would love to share my experience and all the details that was shared and or lied to us.
Sucks hotel was themed around trilogy star wars would probably saw some success if it was orginal trilogy with Darth Vader having him bored the star ship haunting down any rebels on bored and focused on making the rooms better then being a squeal trilogy larping experience betting it was Kathleen Kennedy idea
@@41052 I’m not. It makes perfect sense to me from a business standpoint. They have more rights control over the sequels than the OT and PT because those rights were still owned by Fox. By the time the Fox merger went through, they had already finished most of the designs for the area.
I looked at the thumbnail and I thought "oh, it's one of their value hotels at WDW, like Pop Century!" Then I heard "$6,000 for two nights" and I squinted in confusion so hard that my brow lowered completely over my eyes. Back when my family did Disney World trips every 2-3 years, that much covered the five of us for at least a week.
One of the biggest franchises I could actually see this working extremely well for is Harry Potter. Imagine if they made a small scale version of Hogwarts with rooms themed like house common rooms and a great hall to eat in. Harry Potter fans would pay an arm and a leg just to stay there for one night.
Disney always has to impulsively resort to movie themed hotels when their $90 bottled water sales are getting low
Disney World is very expensive!
Reminds me of those motels in movies that you rent by the hour
Would recommend literally any other theme park
Sure isn't there a sandwich that is 200$ in Disneyland
@@ellienyan universal Japan was great dunno if USA theme park is the same
the target audience for star wars themed hotel rooms already have their entire homes themed around star wars, so of course this was a flop
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exactly. the other fact is that most of the extremely rich die hard star wars fans are mostly dead by now. this would've been a success probably 15 years ago.
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Its even more outrageous when you realise that you can stay in the actual hotel in Tunisia where all the scenes of Luke's house on Tatooine was shot for MUCH cheaper. Even if you include travel costs it would still be cheaper than this two day experience.
Yeah. It's MUCH much cheaper
It would even be better. Tunisia is a great country.
That's crazy and makes perfect sense 👌
The insane price also covers the pay for all the actors who seem to be around all the time. They created something for insane starwars nuts, the nuts who had the money went and now im guessing no one is willing to spend 6k for 2 nights.
@@TheHollowBlade I am a massive Star Wars fan (older sw) but those prices are for really specific people with specific amount of income added to their fanatism. as much of a fan the amount of cost to stay there you could probably travel and visit galaxy's edge twice for 2 international people. they need to make it more accessible instead of simply shutting it down but I dont really know how expensive it was to maintain a place like that
I love the idea of a murder mystery where it feels like I get to interact with people in some sort of fantasy world, but I can do that at a freaking renaissance fair or a LARPing event for a fraction of the price Disney wants me to pay
Heck, you can even do it for free by playing among us.
@@radityapoerwanto7018 Except half the people will leave and the rest vote you out for no reason
Yeah. I don't need to spend $6k just for someone to play Star Wars with me.
Yea I mean you're paying for the copious amount of actors that are with you for 16hrs a day, for 2 days.
I believe the price is for a room and you could split that with like 4 others in your party.
What’s larping
Nickelodeon tried this years ago and it was a stinker. People just can't seem to grasp that themepark novelty hotels are always overpriced, terrible or both.
What was the name of the hotel?
5k a night that had to be a typo. No way. I could see 500 a night.
@@Crabbadabba 6k for two nights , if you’re referring to the Star Wars hotel
It is a good idea but it is the cost that is the problem
@@Salemchevy this. There is absolutely NO WAY they need to charge $5000 a night to make a profit.
I can’t imagine me, and my family would pay $6000 to listen to a role play on the bridge whilst having a new born baby crying in the background lmao.
6000 each
I would throw that toddler out the window, oh wait there are none XD gosh that’s such a fuck up from them
I stayed, it was really fun. You got to do like side quests and stuff. Could choose between good and evil missions. I ended up in some "illegal" gambling ring after doing an evil mission and got to play in a tournament.. It was really cool. Def not worth 1.2k a night, If they could get the price down to 500-800 a night Id prob do it again just to pick different missions. We paid 1,200 a night per guest. So 2400 for a couple per night. 4800 total.
@@spiderace7994 Its 1,200 per guest, a night. A couple is 4800 total. A family of 4 would be 9600. Im not sure if theres a discount for kids under a certain age. I dont remember seeing any.
really, wtf is with people hauling the newborn off to di$ney land with their horde of crouch goblins. Listen, di$ney is absolutely the natural environment for crouch goblins, but wtf are peoples mission haulin the freshly harvested potato to the park? Is it a migration thing? Instinctual? Is it a "the children are now at the impressionable age where we take them to di$ney, just as my parents did. I shall follow in the ritual to haul them off, and attach my fresh spawn to my hip for the process." And I always feel bad for the newborn, cause getting hauled around that way is heckin stressful - you're supposed to den up with the harvested bean and nurture baby, and bond with baby. Not try to shove baby in Tiggers arms, cause no cast member wants that lawsuit
Everybody in town was so excited to try this hotel. Every taxi driver I spoke to wanted to take their kids there. All that talk immediately died when the pricing came out.
Yeah, they likely would've made more money if they didn't think in short-term greediness, pricing things a lot of money to make more money is a goofy thought process, it doesn't really work, at least not as well as pricing things lower does.
If they priced it lower, more people will go there cause they'd be able to afford doing so, and as more people go, the money generated from it will surpass money made from the smaller amount of higher paying customers.
It was the main issue with it cus as much as everyone complains about the hotel being a prisson it is actuly a really cool experiance but its nowhear near worth the amount of money they where asking. like it was even more money than staying 2 weeks in one of there other hotels with acsess to all the parks it just makes 0 sense why they made it soo expencive.
I can see them eather removeing all the larp elements from it and turning it into a more normal hotel for a more affordable price or turning it into a attraction than people attending the park can just go to.
Price’s dynamic with supply vs. demand is a funny thing. A Disney built Star Wars theme hotel is an extreme case of an “Elastic Demand” product/service that will likely be used in economic case studies and college courses.
@@matthew.stevick Clearly they were incorrect about the elasticity.
Yeah $6000 price tag will do that to a family. Absolutely absurd, even for Disney’s price gouging
my best friend was a cast member here and loved it and put his whole heart into it. he was so heartbroken but everyone knew it was coming. they weren't booking up, the story stayed the same and there was no incentive to return.
I’m glad Disney is getting broke. Films are getting worse and woke right and left. It’s being unwatchable and trying too hard to have diversity and inclusion. Always focus on race and gender.
‘Disney deserve this.
@@tjohnnyf7100 Grow up. It's pandering and bad writing not diversity that's the problem. You perma virgins swoon over Leia and Lando but since 2016 now you're all arm band wearing bigots. Get out of here. Star wars has always been overrated, it's just gotten worse.
Well it was terrible. You're forced to do a two day stay, rooms smaller than Budget Inn, of course he was heart broken.. his job was to walk around doing nothing all day.. if he's that lazy tell him to come up to SW VA and join in on this gang stalking program against me.. basically you get paid to do nothing all day and pretend you're some hardcore "good guy".
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@tjohnnyf7100 they aren't going broke. There making less profit lol
@T Johnny F
So inclusivity can’t be in movies anymore? I’m not a fan of their corporate practices but it’s nice that they’re trying to include people.
The $5000 a night hotel couldn’t get enough business so they had to shut it down after a year?? Color me shocked
Thats what im sayin!!!!!😂
I’m amazed it stayed open for a year with those prices
$4-6k for 2 nights
It's like companies and influencers are out to get as much money out of people as possible to have that perfect wealthy life-- except, there are only so many people you can milk money from... and with everything we already have to pay for? No, they can take their 5000/night hotel and bounce on that dick up their own asses.
Those shitty family influencer families milked the shit out of this when it opened.
For that price point, you could get a multi-room villa at a luxury Disney hotel for a week instead of a 2-day stay in a cell in the Star Wars Gulag TM
You're not spending time in there more than necessary, it's not the point. It's everything else. That would be like giving a cruise a negative review after choosing to hole up in your cabin the whole time.
@@karlthorkildson4650 Sure, that's fair. Except the experience is also shite, and not worth the money either. Charlie explained all of that in the video. It's not just the room, it's everything, but the room is absolutely part of it.
@@felixgodden5455 Have you seen any videos of people actually visiting it? Yes there's the live theater aspect. You also get to interact with all the cast members throughout the stay as they walk around. But the biggest thing is that you get an app on your phone that gives you all these quests that you can to do throughout the "ship" and you can choose to be one of the different factions on board. It actually looked pretty fun. Not $6k fun, but still fun.
Or book a two week stay in Hawaii plus airfare
If I had 6 grand to just throw at 2 nights I’d probably have the money to just buy a house and pay a 2 grand a month mortgage.
My dad worked on this project, and all that work and hours he put towards this went to nothing. This news was just sad to hear, especially since he helped engineer the star cruiser for almost 2 years, and never got to actually even see it or visit it once.
Did he get paid at least? I hope so.
@@mandykarevicius9746 obviously.
Man that is just sad....
Who cares? He got paid for the job didn’t he? Not like he’s contracted to stay with it forever. He doesn’t have a stake in it. As long as something doesn’t break and hurt/kill someone, what does he care? Not his problem if it shuts down tomorrow
@@Lawrence_Talbot That's true, but it is kind of nice to know that your work is actually doing something in the world.
$6,000 dollars to be trapped in the sequel trilogy for two days 💀
woulden"t even pay 10 Dollars to be in the Sequel Troligy
They’d have to pay me to be in the Sequel Trilogy
@@Groggle7141 kep in 100 million area because oif how trashy that Movies there
Worth it if sex with Kylo Ren was part of the package. Authentic Adam Driver for the price, too.
fake sequel too, i dont care if they bought it, it ISNT starwars
The only reason I and anyone else would pay $6,000 to experience this is if I was able to walk out with the force myself
I mean we all pay a lot more if we could learn the force
WITH a real working custom light saber to boot as well lol 😂!
Had it been the Nostromo from Alien with some great giger walls I'd consider it. The jokes would write themselves for a decade.
If I got Twi'leks and Togrutas sent to my room then it would be a different story.
"An expensive, confusing, jumbled mess" It's honestly impressive that Disney managed to get the exact feeling you get from watching on of the sequels and turned it into a hotel, frankly astonishing
Well put
It's almost like people don't want to pour their hard earned money into an easy to detect facade.
It's to expensive to live in that's the main problem
When the hotel came out I bet it did fine but after the last of the suckers quit going they got screwed
@@jimmyvasquez5298 Its too expensive to live in general….
I just love the first instinct of Disney is to close it down rather than change the 6k pricing to something more reasonable like 1500 for the 2 night but even still that a premium trip for 2 nights
I think it’s just an unsustainable experience. The cast members have to be in character 24/7 and I’m sure it’s hard to find people willing to do that tbh. It’ll probably reopen as a regular hotel instead of the dumb cruise ship thing it is now.
@@LeanMrfuzzles alternatively stop having actors and keep the lodging
Yeah I honestly couldn’t fathom how they came up with the price justification. Family of 4 is around $750 per guest per night to get that $6000 figure over two night stay. How could anyone justify this? All you get is a hotel, a couple paid meals (no booze) and a few “Star Wars” themed events which essentially boils down to you waiting in your hotel or in the restaurant until it’s your time to do a scheduled activity. Sounds boring AF to me, especially for $6K
1,500 for two nights. Yea no. Even if I made 100k a year or more I would not spend that much per two nights.
For 3000 I can get all included 2 week trip to a nice hotel in a tropic country lmao this shot is wack
As someone who works in guest services for the mouse , the few times I'd get calls from that resort it was always complaints even the most diehard fan boys were like ya the acting was ok but we didn't get any blankets in our room and it's really small and or my kids hungry how can we get more food. Plus I cringed every time I had to say may the force be with you so I just started taking the QA hits for not doing it unless I was talking to an excited kid or something
Wait. You get in trouble just for not saying "May the force be with you"?! For CUSTOMER SERVICE?!
@@lesigh3410 yup that or have a magical day to end the call for every other type of resort but it's like a school grading scale so it just takes a few points off instead of an A I'll get like a high B grade etc.
@Snacky G that's actually ridiculous, what the hell. I never wanna work there in my life
@@lesigh3410 unfortunately it's like that for most companies I've worked for (the big ones anyway I've worked for Apple, Verizon,etc. They all have their own little rules like that . Thats that customer service life like how GameStop used to force employees to sell those power up rewards cards as an example
@@snackyg You should've said peace and prosper as a joke before it got taken down
But Charlie, it has STAR WARS in its name. How can you not empty your life savings to experience what it's like to be in a cramped, ugly starship in the STAR WARS UNIVERSE. It's like I'm REALLY IN STAR WARS, and I'm also POOR.
Yah "hey come to our star wars hotel where you will see characters like Chad the ship janitor and Bill the pilot of this random ship no one's ever seen" then they wonder why people don't care
disney knows theres a shitton of rich people who have no issue spending thousands to stay in this place. the problem is disney lost them with the 2 night maximum stay and ugly, tiny rooms. if they just made a super nice expensive star wars hotel (and not a theatrical “experience”) it would be a massive success.
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A wise man told me, "Jaws was never my scene, and I don't like Star Wars".
Me too
I worked at Disney World and I learned the main thing Walt wanted was an affordable place for people to take their families. Ever since his passing they wanted more and more money so now it’s just gift shops and monetizing ANYTHING. Hell, my family and I got together for frozen 2 and when we saw that little lizard we immediately said “they added this lizard so they could make plushies and sell it.”
What did they do? Make plushies and sold em. It’s disgusting now. They don’t care about family or magic anymore. Whenever you get a magical moment it’s because of the cast member not the corporation. I made magic cause I liked seeing people have a good time, and it’s been so easy to make it because everything is so pricey. When I saw a very dehydrated person I gave out free water cause why would you pay $3.50 - $5.00 to survive the Florida heat? It’s disgusting.
Now that’s happening with Stan Lee. These fucking snake corporation wait for the creators to pass away. To milk the living fuck outta theirs property’s. I’m convinced all this company heads are going to hell for greed.
No passion is my main complaint these days. A depressing amount of entertainment these days just reeks of “I was held at gun point by my boss” or “the director doesn’t actually like the source material”
It looks like Henry Cavill was fired from The Witcher because he actually cared about and had passion for the show and source material. The director said she actually found him annoying.
Disney won't going to hear you guys feedbacks anyway....
@@thebowler5506it’s all in your head your the one who’s sad stop projecting your misery into the world
You can spend two nights in a fully furnished room at a 5 star hotel in the middle of New York's financial district for ~$2000. Add on maybe an extra $200 per person for 3 meals a day for room service (but even thats pushing it), would still be less than $6000. Disney's price is absolutely ludicrous
a fully furnished room in a 5 star hotel in new York's financial district doesnt involve 24/7 RP from a large band of cast members, with storylines for the residents of the hotel. It also doesn't involve an entire seperate entrance to a theme park to give quick queues to rides
*Not completely justifying the $6k just saying.* Those painting this equivalent to a normal hotel need to look up what it actually was
@@SaigesArstgo1031i homestly feel like they could have cut back on the roleplay
@@SaigesArstgo1031 bud you sound like an idiot. 6000$ is not worth roleplay. Free access to rides and a room that small.
@@SaigesArstgo1031 Except from the v-logs I saw, you interacted with very few of those cast members and none of them were characters anyone would know. Most of the cast seemed to work a few hours during the show portions. Plus you only got to go to the theme park for part of a single day like an excursion on a cruise. If you were actually interacting with Luke, Han or even Kylo type characters the whole time, that is one thing. Instead it was some random in makeup that no one ever heard of for the most part.
@@helljumperodst6780 probably but the role play *was* the experience so they weren't going to
I think the cramped windowless rooms were supposed to be an “authentic” experience, like what you might actually find on an intergalactic ship’s living quarters. That’s cool and all, but that price is still absurd. At the end of the day it’s still an objectively small and comfortless room and deserves to only cost as such.
You were paying for the experience/actors around you 16hrs a day, not the room that you spent basically no time in other than sleeping. It probably could've been a bit bigger, but I don't think that was the main issue.
That just seems like a cheap excuse for low effort rooms. There's so much beautiful and exciting scenery in starwars they could've been modeled after
@@EEvtg Why should people pay for “actors” that barely does anything. Sorry for the employees but it’s a terrible business model for the price quoted
A Star Wars Hotel sounds so cool on paper. So sad it had to end up like this.
I've seen bad ideas executed better than this idea
Rip Disney World
Got great reviews too from what I’ve heard, shame it was so laughably overpriced
Disney ALREADY has a normal hotel at Disney World with futuristic vibes! They could have just stuck Star Wars theming on that one
Would've been cool if it was a space ship theme that actually moved the whole building and had vr windows
That whole facility screams vault-tec, there is no way this wasn't just some giant behavioral experiment Disney cooked up.
I got the Vault Tec among the stars vibes the moment I saw it
Oh shit. You're right
Yeah a vault you only get to stay in for 2 days until your forced to leave.
Prepared for the future!
Minus $12,000
Lol
Ngl a vault Tech themed hotel would be sick, if they threw in a pipboy replica and a jumpsuit id pay six grand to fight off radroaches, hell yah i would.
I always find it hilarious how companies that change focus to become more profit centric often end up losing profit. Its almost like treating your customers like sacks of blood you can drain like leeches is a bad idea
And they never learn from it either, they will just blame it on "the economy", or "people trying to raise the minimum wage", and then go about doing the same stupid shit again.
Exactly 👌
Disney has always been profit centric. They know they can take these risks because the money lost on this is a drop in the bucket for them.
simply put, a lot of profit centric companies saw that it would work in the past and they think that they can get away with it now. Companies like EA or Disney could produce the sloppiest piece of work that they have ever done and still make money off of it back in the 2000's or early to mid 2010's because their name on the product was enough to sell it to a lot of the consumer base, so they did that. Now a lot more people are wary of what they produce after being fed slop for years, the out of touch executives think that it is just a phase and the customer will still buy whatever they are selling.
But now they all have amazing ESG scores to get better credit rating from lenders, which they’ll need to take out all these loans to make up for their massive profit losses.
The funniest (and darkest) thing to me is that the Starcruiser apparently didn’t want guests to have any type of tech that connected to the internet iirc, so the people doing press for early access couldn’t show it off. And about midway through the first run was when Ukraine first got attacked. So imagine being press out of the loop, walking out of that hotel and immediately being bombarded by news on a war crisis XD
XD
Nice pun, bombarded lol
I'm pretty sure those people doesn't care about world politic.
They don't even know Ukraine was attacked in 2014 by the USA.
I can't imagine anyone who is writing a review for this as a "reporter" would be writing up on geopolitics and war.
@@patrickmcpartland1398 I can imagine.
Rumors between cast started saying it was gonna be 1k a night and we were mostly laughing because there's a loooooot of Disney bloggers that spreads lots of bullshit. But when it was revealed, you noticed a lot of us just... Not talking about it anymore. Disney's priority since return from covid. They've worked cast to the bone, many departments had a year + of mandatory 6 day work weeks. I even had to take a hit on my attendance just to go to a scheduled operation. It was nice, covid brought out so much soul sucking behavior. They removed locations (called hubs) so staff was getting more and more randomly assigned to places/areas they never did. Guests were regularly getting abandoned for hour-hour 1/2 waiting for a bus. Disney stopped giving a shit about a lot, but especially the cast. Union has done nothing but let it get worse. People have speculated the union is in their pocket now days.
I'm sorry you have to work in such an awful place. I wish you the best o7
union's probably been in their pocket for years and only really shown it now
you bet your ass they have the union and the surrounding government in their pockets
This is at the Florida park? If thats the case if you stay there I don't expect that treatment to continue given the fact that Disney is in hot water with our state govt. Would be a real shame for them if they caught wind about something like that happening. Especially what you stated thinking the union is in their pocket. That's disgusting if it's true. Hope you recovered from your operation and it didn't burden you with your work too much. These are the kind of stories that get my blood boiling. Especially having been mistreated by employers in this state. Wishing you the best going forward.
I swear disney has the biggest annoying PR Cell everywhere in social media and ruins any nuanced discussions. If you don't consoom their XYZ content, everything just reduces to you're some -icsts. There is no way the top voted comments on relevant reddit subs, twitter are organic, and only serves to inject copium onto impressionable kids. And just as Charlie pointed out the moment the content gets released, suddenly those posters become silent until the anticipation of the next disney content. It is hilarious people unironically think prequel trilogy was good now, that acceptance has only enabled even worse content.
Its a cruise without the cruise and it’s set in the worst starwars era that all the real fans claim isn’t part of the timeline. No idea what the target audience was.
All the "real fans" is a weird thing to say out loud. They wouldn't keep pumping out merch and movies if it didn't make them $$$, and that means people like them :D you're just old!
@@queensaladini6731you must be one of the 10 people who still watch whatever godforsaken crap they pump out.
@@TheVoicesOfTheBeyond no! I just think these greedy companies wouldn't make content if people didn't watch it! They want money. The things they make must make money, otherwise they'd stop.
@@queensaladini6731no they push out the new trilogy crap to block out the idea of the originals and prequels it’s kinda like if there’s two drinks a company owns and they want to sell the one everyone hates so they stop advertising and showing the one everyone likes so you get the better than nothing motive
@@queensaladini6731yes Disney would not make movies if they didn’t receive money for it. Kinda what capitalism is
It's hard to make a room look worse than a dorm but they sure as hell did it
Next they'll rent out a frat house and say it's Andy's toy story experience
@Classic Classi this is too accurate 😂
Back when I was a kid my Dad took us to Disney World for $4,000 for TWO WEEKS and saw every single park multiple times. This is insanely overpriced lmao
Ah, the good old days. Used to have a shop that had a wall of candy. 1 cent each. Now it's like $16.99 per lb or so. Nothing is cheap.
I wish we had old disney back when it was only 1$
@@MidLifeChanger Yep, Hyper-Inflation is a bitch 😂
My sister is currently working here and has loved every second of it. Her and her coworkers pour their hearts into their characters and try to make the experience worth the ridiculous price tag for those staying there. Sad to see it go for their sake.
Nothing she does is gonna be worth the insane price, unless she awakens the force within me.
If the hotel was affordable, more people would be able to go and even return, and they'd make more money. The price tag can never be justified. We're in the middle of inflation too,.
If your sister is that sad as a worker imagine how entire families feel when Biden forced their businesses shut unnecessarily during covid.
@Tom Kurowski Wasn't trump president during covid, tho????
@@bearysorry5009 For a short time, yes. Trump didn't force small businesses closed to the point of bankruptcy though. That was Biden, and it was 100% intentional.
I had no idea that this was a thing. Just looking at the photos though it looks like the inside of a shipping container.
It's impressive how Disney can take any IP and make it over saturated, poorly organised, and then mark it up with a 6 digit starting price.
Funny you say "shipping container". You should look up the Galactic Starcruiser shuttle, which was basically a box truck the starcruiser guests get piled into to simulate traveling through space between the starcruiser and Galaxy's Edge in the parks. No windows or anything. You sit on jump seats in a small darkened box with some more space decor. It's an even closer experience to sitting in a shipping container.
It's the Apple model of monetization
Churn out shit and sink enough into marketing to convince subnormals it's gold
I really just feel Bad for the workers. They didn't know they would be losing their jobs until the rest of the world found out. And i know they work so hard to be in character and to bring immersion to the people that stayed there. :( I just hope they are able to find jobs somewhere else and soon 🖤
This. As usual, the only people getting screwed by Disney's poor planning are the low level employees who run the place.
I think I heard most the workers are being transferred to other disney things, so I think luckily not all of them are losing jobs.
@@grandmoffjake6871 I hope so, I know most of them (like performers) are on contracts, so I hope there's no complications for them especially and they are able to get performance jobs elsewhere on property
Disney fires employees then has the fired employees train the new ones coming in. Not nice
I hope somewhere else and not Disney affiliated at all
This terrifies me. One of my good friends girlfriends is spending her entire college career working towards becoming a Disney imagineer. It's her dream job and she would do literally anything for it to come true, but when you hear of stuff like this you just worry for her. She's putting all of her focus on a job that may not even exist 5 years down the line, not to mention the chance of becoming one period is already thin
That is a reasonable fear to have. To be honest, it feels like this kind of job isn't going to be very present in times to come thanks to how Disney keeps tripping over its own feet. So long as they think that buying out companies to use their IPs is a good idea, they'll keep going down the hole.
Unlike most people who seem delighted that this happens, I don't want this to happen. Disney is something that is supposed to give everyone creativity and delight with their creations. People seem twisted into this belief that burning everything we've had is a good thing because they can create something new. I just want to see people like your friend be creative, have fun with their work, and keep giving people a smile.
Sorry, that was a lot, but that's kind of been weighing down on my mind.
While that may be a reasonable fear I would support her full send you know? Whatever happens, happens
You think Disney isn't going to exist in 5 years time? 😂
I think AI will take over by then.
If her dream of becoming a Disney imagineer ends up falling through she just become a mechanical engineer and design rides at an amusement park
"Disney overdosed on scooma"
Damn, that got my attention real quick
like farmer
skooma* autist
Skooma*
Disney hittin the moon sugar again💀
What does he mean by scooma?
One of the things they messed up big on is that you’re not visiting planets from the movies. You’re just in space. It’s set in the sequel era of movies but you don’t meet any of the characters from the older movies
Or the current movies! That's what was always so brain dead about it - even if you like the Disney trilogy there still isn't much there for you in this offering. Total ineptitude!
@@DocNo27 yes not even current movie characters you can meet. It’s just like what’s the point
Also no one actually gives a fuck about the sequel trilogy besides people who are desperate to continue there childhoods.
You do visit Batuu and do an excursion to Galaxy's Edge where the story lines of the ride actually tie into the story on the cruise
One of the things Disney messed up big time was the cost for it. Rather than having a lower price to attract more people and more revenue, they decided that 6k was somehow acceptable.
Disney acquiring Star Wars was honestly one of the worst things to happen to Disney, Star Wars, and the public at large. This is just another failure to add to the pile that is the dumpster fire they created.
EDIT: There is a user in this comment chain who claims I have said that Disney acquiring Star Wars is worse than the holocaust. Before you respond to them, understand later in the comment chain they admit they have autism. I don't blame them for taking what I said 100% literally, as this is something autistic people struggle with. Have some compassion and do not badger them.
Nah, we got mandolorean and andor. Worth.
Honestly it all is good, the fans be a lil picky 💀
@@jak199527 that’s the only great things from it (not including BF with friends, Clone Wars conclusion and Jedi series) which is not saying much…
Disney has too much as it is.
@@jak199527 both seem mid at best to me. Star Wars should never ended up in Disney's grubby paws
“They paid so much money that they convinced themselves they had to enjoy it, thus they did.”
I felt the same way about Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.
The sunk cost fallacy.
s/v intro was so incredibly boring i nearly gave up on it
Was thinking about buying it, Was it worth it?
@@Savieor Definitely not worth sixty dollars.
Obviously you haven’t heard of the snail who is our overlord at war thunder
Gotta Love how Disney ruins SW's reputation, even outside the movies and series.
They already ruined the reputation of Star Wars when they released the Sequels........... (now they're trying to fix it with TV shows on Disney Plus lol)
@@tehfan66 You can't pretend to be creative, that's why they will never make anything worth warching when it comes to SW again. If you aint got the talent you shouldn't be making movies.
@@tehfan66 nonsense
They are trying to connect the disney plus shows to the sequel trilogy
Lmao I hope Disney going bankrupt soon....
I feel like the star cruiser is a great demonstration of how grim life is for anyone in the Star Wars universe who is not a jedi
When they say it’s a “business decision” they mean exactly what you’re saying, that it was a bad business move. The reason they’re saying that is to take blame off of the creative folks. They’re saying “it’s not that our creative team didn’t do well well, this just doesn’t work as a business model. It’s not their fault”
Not the recent political stuff where they also canceled a multi billion dollar campus project?
So my best friend got to do this (for free mind you so take it with a grain of salt) but he LOVED it. You absolutely HAVE to be a big star wars fan to enjoy it, because the whole stay is just you being a part of the universe. A couple things you commented on, the screens in the room actually do show cool stuff, as other people complete their missions around the ship, your cabin window’s actually show stuff they are working on, so the whole “ship” is 100% interactive. For instance if someone is on a turret shooting at asteroids, the whole ship is going through an astroid field and you can see the blaster bolts shooting at asteroids. There is also secret rooms and stuff that have actors and stuff to do in them that aren’t even like advertised about so its very open world feeling as opposed to tour feeling. Now obviously the price was insane but after he got to do it, he and I immediately started saving to get to go in 2 years but obviously now we won’t get to :/
Honestly, they should have taken inspiration from gacha games. Cheap price to stay but have products which people would pay for because the experience is so good
Good. The fact you would give Disney 6k warrants criminal charges my guy. Goddamn!
And now they don't have any of your money,when you would have given it to them if the price wasn't insane.
Yep everyone that did it loved it, and many did it twice. The price was a bit more reasonable when you split it with a few people. You're paying for the many actors surrounding you 16hrs a day.
A major oversight with this thing was that by choosing to do it in the sequel trilogy and right after the last jedi, they alienized three quarters of the Star Wars fanbase because everybody already hated that shit so much that they wouldnt go to anything relating to the sequel trilogy. Just think for a second how cool it would have been if you were on the death Star or a Star Destroyer or the Jedi Temple and you could see your favorite Jedi like there is so ,much potential here for something awesome but they totally shit the bed by the making it some random ass spaceship that doesnt even feel like Star Wars it just feels like an off brand knockoff. It really is a shame because this idea had the potential to be incredible but because they still wanted to market their new trilogy they ended just making something that nobody would want to go to. And like your saying it was fun, the people that went had fun, its just that the single fact that it was in the sequel trilogy already eliminated 70% of the fanbase from going. Also btw Charlie was talking about only super fans of Star Wars going to this but I guarantee no super fan is going to this, no super fan would go to a sequel trilogy hotel that had bad marketing and was incredibly expensive unless they are going to make a review, its just not happening which is kinda funny seeing how Disney didnt realize that they actually had to make their movies good if they wanted people to come to a 6,000 dollar trip based solely on their movies. But because their movies were not enjoyed by the majority of the fandom and really the majority of the world, in turn that means the majority of the world is not gonna wanna go to this because it just keeps reminding them that nothing they love about Star Wars is here.
Who wouldn't want to spend $6000 to spend two nights in a windowless closet?
Does it come with coke and hookers?
Do you spend all day in the bedroom? It’s just meant for sleeping
@@thesnipingspider3852 I am echoing this, you're not paying for just the room. If you don't know about the other aspects of the experience you're falling for negative marketing. It's another thing if you're saying that kind of experience isn't for you.
@@thesnipingspider3852 nothing about anything they offer is worth even 1/4 of the price.
$6000 to do nothing. $6000 to sit in your room all day until you either go get a meal or do a scheduled activity like “light saber training” for your kid or go meet one of Disney Trilogy characters for an autograft. Remember folks, this whole thing is built around the sequel trilogy, so it has nothing from the OT or prequels, no Darth Vader or Obi Wan or Clone Wars or any of the stuff people actually like.
I feel as though Im part of the target audience for this hotel and yet even I could never actually justify paying those prices.
Same, I’d love to stay at a themed hotel with a cool interactive thing to do, but not at the price and I’d want something actually super cool to do
@@gergyta9211yeah. if they had like a 0 gravity thing, like one of those machines that spins you around, and the cost was about half, and the food was BOMB, then maybe I could justify splurging on it as a once in a lifetime thing and chiding myself for the rest of my life for wasting so much money. As is? Absolutely the fuck not
@@bethanybosworth yeah, and maybe have the ability to leave when you want lol. Sometimes immersion is great, but there’s a point where it gets too much lol
@@bethanybosworth Apparently the food is really good, just what I've heard though.
I would have loved to go as well, I’m a huge scifi lover.
"As low as $4000, what a steal" - Disney's expected customers.
It brings me joy to know about any Disney failure. This one is especially sweet.
Okay Ron DeSantis
@@belindabarbour382 okay groomer
Ron DeSantis is a garbage person who hates Disney for the wrong reasons, but Disney failing is still a good thing. I don't want to live in a world where Disney acquires every semi-popular franchise and pumps out soulless cash grabs from each of them for the rest of my lifetime.
Can’t wait for little mermaid and Indiana jones failures 😂
@@jd1800 bad person for wanting to protect kids? Ok buddy
TL;DR since this comment got long: I actually knew people who helped create and were actors at the resort. It’s honestly very sad it’s ending, there was so much passion put in it listening to the designers and project leads talk about it. But, even listening to it, we could tell that it was SUPER expensive and no matter how much you loved it, it was a stupid amount of money, I’m pretty sure it was thousands of dollars to go.
EDIT: Because Charlie and many others seem confused on what this is. It was WAY more of a show than a hotel. A hotel is like the last thing this thing should be advertised. The whole point was that it is filled with actors and with some app, you would go on missions, meet actors etc, and it was like a chose your own adventure come to life. The person I knew played as the “smuggler” aboard the ship. You could get some… Star Wars object I assume, and then meet with him to get him his smuggled item, and continue a quest, or you could turn it into the imperial guard and act as a spy on board the resort, or you could help the rebels, etc. it was basically a crazy intense themed show. You could also not participate and just stay on the resort, but the price is for the show above all else.
A lot of the actors came from an improv background and would have mics in their ears, and an entire behind the scene crew would tell actors where they had to go to meet with guests. You’d get a message like: “meet with greebo sheebo at 6 pm” or soemthing. That way the actors could meet with individual guests, but yeah, they had a whole team of people behind the scenes managing it as well while the “show/resort” went on. Some people came in cosplay and would play characters too, obviously the super fans.
It’s not surprising price killed it. I thought it was a super cool idea, and I loved the passion everyone who worked on the project I talked to had behind it. But even loving the idea and Star Wars, there’s no way I’m paying an actual fortune for the experience. It’s just super sad knowing it failed for the people involved.
EDIT 2: Since it’s blowing up if people want even more info on the attraction:
There would be a director on site while the whole thing went on. They also did have a live singer there as well I believe. Not mention many many staff. If something went wrong, a guest missed a meet-up time, an actor got sick, etc. they would have the director and writers quickly write up a continuation of how the show could go from here for that guest. They also of course relied on the improv talent of the actors involved.
A story. I think when the smuggler character got sick on day, he couldn’t go into work, so they had written that for the guests involved in his quest that he was under suspicion and being interrogated by imperial officers for questioning. They even informed imperial officer actors so that if guests were acting as spies, the imperial actors would mention something like: “we’ve even captured a suspected smuggler aboard the ship named *sick actor character’s name* who is being questioned now” so if guests mingled with each other, even people who never really hang out or mingle would here about their “npc actor” being captured, from a fellow guest, making the world seem to blend with even fellow guests.
The sets were expensive to make and run. Your phone would open doors, had a unique ID, I believe like an “inventory”, and other stuff. They also had a command bridge AR/VR game where I think you could shoot tie fighters and stuff like that.
Plus they tried so hard to advertise this thing by shoving it into various box
If they had based it on lore that people cared about instead of it being a generic space story they would have made bank. KK's insistence on killing anything related to the original star wars is what undid this - and that's the real tragedy because I too know people involved. It was always doomed to be a failed effort because they picked a story and characters no one cares about!
I could have given them a tip. Include things and characters from the original series and it would have made money.
Thanks for the more in-depth background on this project as a whole. Man, it is pretty sad to hear how much love when into it. Shame that the price and advertising ruined it. (Hopefully doing it for a year will look good on ppls resume at least!)
@@DocNo27No they wouldn’t have. No matter what they did, this was destined to fail. I’m sure there was a reason why the prices needed to be so stupidly high, so I’m sure that not even lowering the prices would’ve worked.
Dude I was born in 81. Star Wars was my childhood, along with Indiana Jones. To see this fail, and for the most obvious reasons, is just heartbreaking. Star Wars is supposed to be for everyone, not just the wealthy. It would take me and my partner literal years, with our humble retail jobs, to be able to save up for this kind of experience. That's wrong. Lucas never would have wanted that. Lesson one: don't price out your fans. This is the result...
$100 - $200 at the least bro
$4,000 - $6,000 is absurd
Obviously he did want it. Obviously all george Lucas cares about is money and staying "relevant".
@@goober112 yeah ofc, staying relevant when you dissappear off the face of the earth the last few years
The problem is Disney lost a majority of their lower class fans and largely cater to upper middle class fans.
It looks soooo Ratchet... I wouldn't stay for $50 a week!!!...
The portion sizes for fine dining is usually because of how many courses there are and how calorie dense the food are. You can have a 10 course meal and each plate of a bite size food is like 300 calories, at the end of the course you're 3000 calories full of wine and butter.
Yup. There's a restaurant in downtown Chicago that is famous for an 18 course meal.
@@1976P I live in Chicago, and have been to a lot of Michelin star restaurants, which 1 are you talking about?
@CommanderWar64 I visited Chicago once and googled it for you it's called Alinea, you're welcome.
heres a fun fact about fine dining, the reason the plates are so small and expansive is they spend months perfecting those annoying menus, wasting alot of food in the process, and since they need to make profit off that practise and all the waste they made, they make small beautiful portions at a very high price, so they can still make profit. been working with fine dining for years and its horid.
Personally I like the concept, including the constant dinner-theater thing, but Disney is already well outside my budget -- this was so INSANELY expensive that I knew I'd never get to see it [altho I didn't expect to see them close it in a year]. The other thing is that from what I saw from videos at launch, OFFICIAL videos, a lot of the set/props were super cheap and generic; not really what you'd expect for what was being touted as the ultimate Star Wars immersion. The gift shops in the parks looked more movie-ready than some of the Galactic Cruiser stuff. Overall, I feel like they executed poorly across the board -- they cheaped out, made it inaccessibly expensive, and didn't let it run long enough to maybe make money. Companies are so focused on instant profits that they seem to forget sometimes you need to spend money in the short term to make money much longer term...
I remember it first being announced thinking it looked pretty fun, then I saw the price and thought "well that's doomed" and now here we are 😂
It should have been a capsule hotel.
One of the biggest issues with the Star Wars hotel is that Disney refuses to give people the old characters that people love and there stuck in the Disney trilogy timeline of movies that most Star Wars fan don’t care about
They didn't even put characters from the Disney trilogy in the freaking thing. How dumb can you be?
Disney (Kathleen Kenedy) hates Lucas Star Wars. She'd rather watch the franchise burn than bring luke back to prominence
Imagine if it was clone wars! Heck if they really wanted to, they could have clone voices pre recorded before had by either Dee Bradley Baker or Temuera Morrison (personally I prefer Dee Bradley Baker) for the clones and then have live actors for other characters.
I absolutely would have LOVED to go there, but when I saw the price, I about had a heart attack.. it left me feeling hopeless that I would never get to experience much of what Disney has to offer because everything there is so expensive.. 😕
You shouldn't feel hopeless. Disney doesn't have anything to offer anymore.
@@williamwade9779 Massive L take
don't worry, you can experience other joys in life apart from a multi-billion dollar corp
@@goobadoob Seems like you have a very... unique perspective there
Price is way more than a 5-star hotel LMAO
The magic in Disney died long ago. I was born and raised in SoCal and me and my family would regularly go to Disneyland since I was a literal infant, and just this spring we went to Disney World for the first time. For me the magic wasn't the location or all the rides we went on, it was just the fact that I was having a good time with my family and making lasting memories with them. I considered myself blessed by God for growing up in a family that went on annual trips since before I was born, an example being we would go to Yosemite every single spring until my freshman year in high school, but in the case with corporate themed hellholes like Disneyland/World, I only got joy from being with the people I loved and having a great time. I also heard my acceptance to the college of my dreams in the Avatar section of the Animal Kingdom, so there's that too. But personally, there really isn't that break from reality in the parks anymore that gave it so much life and whimsy. It's all marketing.
That also just sounds like part of growing up, but you are right that the magic of Disney does become less and less easier to believe as you get older and everything is so expensive 😅
eh, sounds like you were never a fan of theme parks to begin with. The theming is still there, and it's still great for the most part. I prefer the non-film tie-in aspects of the parks, but many fans do enjoy being immersed in their favorite films.
Same thing happened to cedar point these past few years. They just got all corporate and changed everything we liked
Go to Universal instead. Wizarding World is a great time!
@charliemalick yeah, if you’re not going during the dead season, there will be a wait. I went in early February and we got to ride whatever we wanted multiple times.
I think the small rooms are immersive to the spaceship experience. If it wasn't for the insane pricetag I, and I think a lot of people, would have loved to try the experience. In regards to the food, the small portions sizes in fancy restaurants are compensated by the fact you get a lot of courses (usually 6-7).
Yeah but here you DON'T get 6-7 servings. Just one, bland, shitty serving.
@@williamwade9779 that's messed up if true
I actually love the design of the rooms. I'm a huge sci fi/space nerd. But it isn't star wars. It's very much more like...how cabins in a military ship like in the honor Harrington universe looks.
@@mmfvdw not true i went unlimited everything down to filet mignons
If it were really immersive, they'd just blow the whole place up along with everyone in it. At the very least have someone bust in and shoot a few people while everyone cheers.
You know, when i think of Star Wars, i dont think about a starcruiser hotel experience, i think of space battles, space to ground assaults. Imagine being on a ride that starts you off on a star destroyer and lands your shuttle on a planet, right in the middle of a battle, that'd be epic!!
Airsoft experience, rebels vs empire, in the himilayas.
if they had just made a laser tag star wars room that would have been much more successful than this bullshit ass motel
Isn’t this just star tours lol
A reminder that this hotel also had a bar, which sold a 5,000 dollar drink so there are some folks who spent well over 10000 dollars there
What's the name of the drink?
pretty sure that was a part of the disney Wish cruise ship (still really expensive)
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Big pigeons right there lol
The obvious problem is the "1% Club" price and that pool of customers is relatively miniscule. At that point, you are competing against Monte Carlo, Boca Raton, and a lot of other places I don't know because I am not rich. These things always have the air of 'Executive Pet Project' where everyone but the boss knows its a bad idea even before the project launches.
I love how Disney seems to be going through the same phase they did when Micheal Eisner was CEO.
"One day [Disney CEO] had millions of dollars and a really bad idea."
at least when he was the CEO all of the ideas were silly, memorable, and something everyone would collectively laugh about 30 years down the line, now all of the bad ideas going defunct are just disappointing and even sad
When I'm in a failure competition and my opponent is Disney (I'm gonna lose)
bro didn’t even watch the video☠️ stop being a sheep you weirdo
I think Desantis has that one covered
If you lose the failure competition, you win. Which would mean you lose, which would mean you win.
Congratulations, you just made a paradox
I don't know desantis seems to be getting his ass kicked pretty badly
Can you imagine the unbearable amount of cringe the staff had to deal with? All the movie quotes and one liners they must have endured from guests that thought they were saying the most funniest thing ever.
Oh fuck. Imagine how many "this is the way"s they had to hear.
In actual fine dining restaurants, the ones with tiny portions are typically because you’re getting 8-12 courses as part of a pre fixe menu. I have eaten at quite a few places with menus and portions like that and neither me nor my husband have ever walked away hungry.
They give you lots of good quality food, they just focus on the fact that your tongue basically goes blind to the flavor of a dish after you’ve taken a few bites, so they give you a wide variety of flavors instead. The main courses of those menus are usually bigger though just to ensure you leave feeling satiated.
I was never into Star Wars but one of my favorite things from them was the parodies people were doing like Spaceballs, Robot Chicken, and Family guy. Now because of Disney we can’t have that. ☹️
Fanboys was a gem. If you haven't seen it you should.
Would it not be a bad idea for Disney to spend money and time on a new hand-drawn animated film? It seems like they're spending money and time on the wrong things. I couldn't even fathom how much money they would make from fans creating a new classic with old-school art. Fans would go wild
Too expensive and too risky sorry
But what about Encanto live action?
@@steppin-razorGot to spend money to make money...
shouldnt have fans after they paid Xinjiang province (and gave them credit in the damn movie) to film mulan right next to concentration camps
They wont because apparently "animation is for kids. Hurr-durr." According to the Ceo or something.
It for real sounds so cool but the cheapest like one night option that I looked into was 5,000.... And the real experience one was 25,000. It was bound to fail completely.
“Disney overdosed on Skuma” is just a combination of words I didn’t know I needed to hear, but I’m glad that I did today. Charlie, you are truly a wordsmith in another class
My family went to Disney World recently and we saw this online before going, but with the absurd price we didn't stay at this hotel. Even if you consider the experience they try to add on to it this is just outrageously overpriced.
there is no hotel worth 6000 dollars for 2 nights
A StarWars themed resort with no original characters other than Chewbacca. I cant believe it failed!
This is like paying for a luxury room at a Titanic hotel and getting the staff brig from the fourth floor basement.
As someone who stayed there (it was my Dad’s 50th birthday present, I surely wasn’t gonna pay for it), here’s my thoughts.
Tl;dr: there were definitely some cool parts, but other parts were a little lackluster and others outright shit. So overall I think it was definitely overpriced.
Things I really liked:
- The bridge simulation and all the mini games in it were really cool and I had an absolute blast with them. The lightsaber training activity was also pretty cool.
- The food was honestly pretty good, even some of the weirder stuff tasted pretty good.
- All the staff did a really good job of staying in character, even down to the wait staff at the diner table help sell the environment.
- The environment of the hotel itself was really impressive in person.
Things I’m mixed on:
- The room: the space was plenty enough for the 4 of us, the bed I slept on was plenty comfortable and the space window thing was cooler in person. That being said the robot you could contact on the panel was lame, and could only respond to basic prompts. Being a Computer Engineer with a concentration in machine learning and knowing what generative models like ChatGPT are capable of AND how much resources the imagineering team has their disposal, this was a wasted opportunity for sure.
Things I hated:
- The whole interactive quest line thing was lame as fuck. It was basically a bunch of IRL fetch quests, and you could choose to side with the rebels or empire but it ultimately didn’t fucking matter. There were a few areas locked behind progression in these quests, but you could get in anyways by tagging along with someone who had access. The stuff you did with the phone was also gimmicky in very lame way. Just a really stupid idea all round.
The thing is this concept of room sounds more like a capsule hotel. You could easily make this from that molded plastic like yotel. Easy to clean and maintain, small rooms. You could even squeeze in interior rooms with the screen and make those the lowest price point. Boy did this miss the mark.
You were paying for the experience with many actors around you for 16hrs a day. Everyone that did it loved it and many did it twice...
@@EEvtg To go more than once at that price point they must have money to burn haha! I just think the concept lends itself more to a budget hotel. They could scale back on the full on immersion entertainment.
@@EEvtg That’s why it’s shutting down right? 😂😂😂
@@JackRogers-x9e It's shutting down because it was marketed poorly. As Charlie said, many did not fully understand why it was so expensive. It's possible that the business model was destined to fail, but the actual experience was great for those that did it.
Also, there returning CEO has cancelled most of the projects of Bob Chapek, so it's really no surprise he's not interested in it; It's not his project.
@@darcymoon2109 Yea many of them had discounts from being annual passholders/DVC and split the cost with a few friends. I agree that it could've worked at a lower cost with less roleplay/entertainment.
I REALLY wanted to check it out. But, as mentioned, I had NO clue what the hell a stay there would entail and the prices were outrageous. Especially when compared to the other lodging options. Even the really damn nice ones.
I'm down with a Star Wars themed hotel, but a two day LARP would probably be a little much for me.
Just when I think Disney can't go downhill anymore, they do stuff like this. I'm simply speechless.
But they go further downhill. Just unfortunate. Isn’t it?
They reach the bottom and then try to dig back to the top, but somehow end up going farther down.
@@alteregobruh I dont even like most disney stuff but if they are at the bottom, sign me up. please.
You mean the Disney pumping out billion dollar movies and continually taking market share from netflix?
Im not advocating for all the things they've made, but ya can't really argue they're going downhill when they're more successful than ever..
@@alteregobruh Disney is more than a success, it's impossible for them to hit the bottom
Disney is truely showing us how much they care. This is just sad.
As a lyft driver, I picked up a dad and a kid that looked like 13-14, I asked them about their experience and the dad loved it while the kid was EXTREMELY indifferent about it... I was like damm the kid didn't even like it... They spent 11k on a 2 person trip just for the kid to say it was ok 😂 I was like damm kid probably liked playing Fortnite for a night than going there 😂 RIP dudes pocket 😂
Based on the way you spell damn lyft driver is a suitable position for you
@@straightfuckingwater389their spelling is normal? are you okay?
@@straightfuckingwater389based on your punctuation, I think you’re being dramatic.
@@straightfuckingwater389we love run on sentences!
@@moonlight5985 I'm sorry you spell damn with two m's? What planet do you come from?
4:51 Better yet, the next Star Wars hotel will be an authentic experience of the prison from Andor, where you will be forced to work and tased if you don’t
Charlie please go in person to give us, the loyal audience, a grand Star Wars hotel experience. I think we might need an in-person review of this and you’re the best candidate.
The combo of hotel and theater works at cross purposes from a business perspective. A themed hotel is going to be expensive to build, but once built expenses can be ramped up and down more than most businesses. But theater is largely the opposite, You need enough audience to make the expense of salaries, sets, and costumes worth it. together you have this huge upfront cost for the building as well as ongoing expenses you can no longer cut down on.
exactly, if they're closing down that prob means they can't lower the price or they'll lose money/ they'll basically pay for it to work
The sad thing is, is that Walt Disney made Disney to be affordable.
They actually themed the hotel after the sequels!! That's some great business idea it's not like people hated the sequels. I almost think they wanted that to fail.
This popped up on my feed after watching Jenny Nicholson’s 4 hour deep dive into this
i have been deep diving on theme parks and the like since and have run out of content like hers
The hotel bedrooms legitimately looked like the prison base from Andor.
They really missed the chance to make the rooms actual ships, imagine staying in a suite that's essentially the millennium falcon and mid trip you wake up to alarms and have to do the Han Solo/ Luke Skywalker gun turret scene climbing down into a moving turret that's essentially a enclosed video game chair and screens that make it feel like your in a fire fight with movement and shuddering.
That would be annoying as fuck
@@reddytoplay9188 my first thought lmao
literally if an alarm started blaring while I was trying to sleep and it wasn't for a real life emergency I'd leave and ask for my money back
That would be wonderful but so fucking expensive they would charge you a kidney to experience something like that for an hour
Great job dinsey, really love how the only goal now is to take an extreme amount of money
A big corporation making money?? How dare they!!?!
They're a corporation. They're not meant to exist for customer satisfaction
that was always the goal lol
@@jimmyjon9970 Well at least before there was the illusion of customer satisfaction lmao
@@jimmyjon9970 What many fail to understand is while they infact do exist to make profit and not solely cater to customer satisfaction, they have to do both otherwise they'll inevitably lose tons of money.
Blows my mind when I look at their rooms and beds and realize that even Capsule Hotels in Japan are much more comfortable than this at only a thousandth of the cost per night, and some even manage to have a far better sci-fi aesthetic look for cheap than this...
80% of the time when Disney launches something Star Wars related it always manages to blow up more in their face then the last 3 movies at this point I’m convinced they are working on a JarJar tales of the Sith TV show
Yo the Darth jar jar theory would be more interesting than anything Disney can do 😂
Disney confirming and building upon the Darth Jar Jar theory would be one of the best Star Wars related things they've ever done.
The Force is Female, you bigot and transphobe!
you fucking wish they where
No joke, the hole-in-the-wall cells in the prison in the new Andor series looks just like those bunks but actually smaller here. The prison looked nicer in the show. You can't make this stuff up man lol
This is why i love you Charlie you make the most goofiest situations more goofy
The hotel bedroom we had for our school tour we payed 400 for overall was much bigger then that, its crazy
This was also the doing of their old CEO (former Parks head) who was absolutely killing their parks division. It makes sense that with the change in leadership that they’d just axe this.
If you told me EA was the hotel manager I honestly would have to tip the bell boy.
I wanted to go so bad. I was looking forward to the announcement of the pricing so much that I had been saving up expecting it to be a bit high because it's like 54 hours of immersive interaction. I was deflated when they announced the price and new I would not be able to stay until they lowered the price. Clearly it wasn't popular and I am saddened that I will never experience it because I have heard it is fun, but the price tag is just so outrageous someone who is making even a decent living can't justify this price. I could go on an actual Disney Cruises for 10 days with a second person 6k. It's just wild that they thought that price point would work. Even with it shutting down I am sad because the concept was my childhood hail marry of awesome.
The worst part is the rooms look like the prisons in Andor
It's like Disney saw those "Capsule" Hotels in Japan and just went: "Maybe we can do something like this but while we're at it, we're gonna throw the practicality card out of the window, give our rooms this cheap sci-fi/art deco mashup aesthetic to make people think they're sleeping in some shack in Tatooine or in a ship and we're gonna charge a thousand bucks a night for each members of a family". No wonder why the hotel is on the verge of closure.
0:48 that actually sounds really fun. Being in an immersive starwars murder mystery story in an underground hotel. Just really poorly executed.
This reminds me like how Mr. Krabs announced Krabby Land and getting everyone Excited, until it was a complete Disaster. They really do be looking like Prison Cell.
The thing about small portions is that they often form part of a tasting menu when you might have 8-9 courses including wines and palette refreshers - having on occasion been to a 2 Michelin star restaurant for this.
Hey, penguinz0! Would you ever consider talking to a former Disneyland Cast Member who was a part of the opening team of Galaxy's Edge? I would love to share my experience and all the details that was shared and or lied to us.
What did you work as?
@@ImmortalDreamEntertainment Was in many roles at Disney including Club 33, but I went in to Galaxy's Edge as a Food Service Worker.
Sucks hotel was themed around trilogy star wars would probably saw some success if it was orginal trilogy with Darth Vader having him bored the star ship haunting down any rebels on bored and focused on making the rooms better then being a squeal trilogy larping experience betting it was Kathleen Kennedy idea
@@Deadhead-kq4hrgenuinely surprised they themed it after the new movies instead of the old ones
@@41052 I’m not. It makes perfect sense to me from a business standpoint. They have more rights control over the sequels than the OT and PT because those rights were still owned by Fox.
By the time the Fox merger went through, they had already finished most of the designs for the area.
I looked at the thumbnail and I thought "oh, it's one of their value hotels at WDW, like Pop Century!"
Then I heard "$6,000 for two nights" and I squinted in confusion so hard that my brow lowered completely over my eyes. Back when my family did Disney World trips every 2-3 years, that much covered the five of us for at least a week.
You're paying for the actors being around you 16hrs a day..
Your brow lowered completely over your eyes?? Are you an anime character?
One of the biggest franchises I could actually see this working extremely well for is Harry Potter. Imagine if they made a small scale version of Hogwarts with rooms themed like house common rooms and a great hall to eat in. Harry Potter fans would pay an arm and a leg just to stay there for one night.
Definitely but only if it was priced fairly
There were plenty of Starwars fans that would have paid more than HP fans if they had actually based it on lore people gave a shit about.
@@paradigmshift7907 There's no way something like this isn't going to be extremely expensive.
dang you're giving Universal Studios Resort some good ideas here
@@j.murphy4884 Difference between expensive and absurdly overpriced
Man, can’t believe Disney literally made a fallout vault and branded it with Star Wars. Quite crazy
Charlie must have been a stork in a former life because he never fails to deliver
Do you mean stroke?