I just picked mine up last week. I love it. I have 6.5 wrist and it wears well! I paid 790.00 at an Ad. It’s my first seiko and I love it. Also i went in looking for the new SPB and i liked this one more for the dial and hands.
I bought one used two months ago for about $500. It's a beautiful watch and I wear it more than my black bay 58 and I friggin love that watch. It fits as a dressy diver with a larger size. It's shiny and catches light well. Looks great on my seven inch wrist.
I jumped straight into the Seiko pool with this watch and I must say Ive been impressed. This has me wanting to go up to a Marine Master or (eventually) a Grand Seiko. This watch looks like any other watch but in certain lighting or from certain angles that Zaratsu polished line and the case lines just pop and make you stare at it. Ive had much more expensive watches that arent finished this nicely. And maybe I got lucky because my alignment is perfect and the movement has been very accurate.
Seiko people told me that the bezel of the SLA017 is topped with a thin layer of sapphire glass, the same as in the SBGE 201. I see that the SBDC 051/053 also has the similar bezel, but, perhaps of lower quality from the look of it, but, it's still incredible at this price point. It's like the different quality of ceramic in the GS and Seiko. Even within Seiko, I observed the difference in quality. The Astron has very high-quality ceramic as in the Transocean bezel. You can differentiate this from, say, the ceramic in the Monster. A good ceramic does not crack or scratch easily. My wife has a watch with the ceramic bracelet which she uses for rough wear. In 10 years, it's still as shiny as the first day. Not a single scratch on it.
I owned both this watch and the Sumo . They are both good , but I think this SBDC051 is the better watch . The sumo isnt in my collection anymore , this one is .
They did one thing that goes unnoticed on all reviews on this model, the dial isn't really a "matte" dark grey, but it has some sort of flecking, so it looks quite nice. The SBDC061/SPB077 doesn't have any flecking on its dial, its just a Flat/Matte dark grey, which kind of looks a bit mismatched under bright light with the lacquered bezel!
I’d love to start the groundwork on a nickname for this future classic. I’ve been calling it the “ modern mas”, but what about “ ronin”? What do you think?
Love that Seiko used a thick clasp and sapphire crystal (about gawdam time). I also really like the hands. However, wish it was 41mm wide-13mm thick-49mm lug2lug, had a black date wheel with white font for a more subtle look. I'm waiting for the price to get down to $500... which is where you find a lot of other watches with sapphire crystal, good clasp, and even better bezel movement, and signed crown.
Lots complaining about the size, but I tried it on and it wears a touch smaller, like Grand Seikos do. Lovely watch, and cheaper for me as I live in Japan;)
Got mine this week. What a classy watch. I prefer wearing it on a Nato band, the original is a little uncomfortable. Understated classy and wears great on my small wrist. This watch needs a COOL NICK NAME.
@@samwatkins9200 Wear it every day at work, and the beach on week ends. Only time it's off is when I'm in bed. Has never missed a beat. After owning many Seiko's, I now own one watch only.
I was really hyped for this one until I saw that the hands are painted. I like hands with polish/ brushed "metal" finish on them. Maybe I wish still go for it.
Random, i am your fan. I listen to you and Bruce Williams to buy all my seiko watches. Only that i buy them from Yamato Nadesiko. It's amost always cheaper than other stores, and sometimes by quite a lot. And, it provides global warranty. The customer service fantastic. I just write to him for any of the watches I want, even antique ones, and I always get the best price. The money I saved could buy me another few more seiko watches.
love the skx and the monsters by seiko. but it is hard to justify buying a watch which is 5x the price of skx/monster while still missing signed crown, ceramic bezel, perfect alignment
I agree! Monster is still in first place ...but this one has moved ahead of the Sumo. I got the Blue one -the bezel is little more interesting with the reflective blue. Great watch and review!
A new Kurashikku has just being released, the SBDC 055, a special Padi Edition. This has a blue wave dial. Even more stunning than it's predecessors. At 700 USD, those who have not bought the earlier ones are spoiled for choice. Cheers!
Thank you for the Review. I like the watch a lot, but I fear it is too big for me. My SKX is my biggest watch and my sinn 104 the watch thats fit me best. But I dont get the pint why not to buy this watch as first Seiko. When somebody like the look and the better quality of the watch, why should he buy a Turtle or SKX instead?
I love, love, love the looks of this one (but I too wish it was a bit smaller) but I can't really justify this one; I already have a Third Gen Monster and my grail is a Marinemaster 300 and this one will have to be a purchase down the line possibly. I just want to throw this one on the MM300 waffle and roll with the "re-interpreted classic" vibe.
A question, did you or Bruce remove links on this watch? I see from the video the bracelet it taken out as far as it come go on the micro adjustments, I have an 8" wrist and own the SBDC053 and want to purchase the OEM bracelet for it, but am unsure if it will fit?
62mas reissue SLA017 39.8mm. Really a dive watch should be between 40-50 mm. IMO smaller than 40 is not diver spec. The original 62mas was 37mm. I have a 7.75" wrist and love anything between 36-40mm. I just don't like a lot on my wrist as I am active and practical. I found the orange monster to be beautiful but it's wrist presence was nuclear. I eventually sold it mint.
I just agreed to purchase a like new model for $540 locally (private sale) but I havent put my hands on it yet. For $540, is it a good buy? Ive had a 007 and an Orient Ray, but other than that no other Seikos.
Lovely watch; they pretty much nailed the vintage aesthetic; shame about the size though, not in absolute terms, but in terms of giving it the 'right' vintage look, IMO.
You are right - 43mm is too much, by 1mm. Possibly. 42mm is great as long as there is 22mm between the lugs. Like Steinhart-proper proportions, although on the large side. A 42mm+ with a 20mm bracelet looks disproportional. Awesome watch though. Would be better, by a lot, with 42mm or less. Preferably a 40mm like God and Rolex intended. With proper lug width. And, screwed links. I'd be in for sure with that. A 40mm with 20mm lugs, or 40mm to 42mm with 22mm lugs. Do that.
Too many strong competitors at this price range (Squale 1521, Marathon tsar, Hamilton Khaki Frogman, Steinhart Ocean 500 Titanium, Christopher Ward C60 Trident). I want to like this watch, but it's too big for my 7" wrist. Wish it was 41" and $500-600. It's only worth $100-$150 more than the Sumo ($450). I'm a proud owner of a Seiko Monster and Seiko fanboy, but I'll wait a year.
Some of them I have not tried. I pretty much agree with you though. So many amazing options that are 40-41mm. Wonder what the overall sweet spot is for most? I would guess from most I see it's 40-41mm
I read that 43mm is currently to most sold size; but with watch collectors - the size is smaller between 40-41mm. The average Joe buying a Fossil wants 43mm. Watch companies are "companies" and they need to sell product to stay in business.
Nice vid man. I think this watch is gorgeous, it just does it for me. Contemplating buying it, I wear a srp turtle well, do you think this watch wears a lot bigger than a turtle. My wrist is a hair under 7 inches. Your wrists on video look way bigger than 7 1/8.
I am also wondering that as I have the blue 053. A bit difficult to match it with the leather strap. I'll probably either end with the black vintage leather or the waffle rubber strap
A wach at this price point should have a more accurate movement than the 6R15. That movement is not great regulated. Compare that to the accuracy of the movement in your Steinhart.
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It's the best modern diver seiko has produced for the price. It's an amazing watch.
Dont waste your time with the turtle. Just get this one. It is amazing.
Nice
Sorry man, this is much better than the Sumo in every way possible... besides the movement, which is the same.
A trick : you can watch series on Flixzone. Been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Ronnie Aarav definitely, I've been watching on flixzone for since november myself :D
Does it have ceramic bezel ?
@@caporal505 No. Still a good value proposition.
I started with an IWC Portuguese, Planet Ocean then a Sumo and finally an SKX.
Lots of fun and no regrets.
I just picked mine up last week. I love it. I have 6.5 wrist and it wears well! I paid 790.00 at an Ad. It’s my first seiko and I love it. Also i went in looking for the new SPB and i liked this one more for the dial and hands.
I bought one used two months ago for about $500. It's a beautiful watch and I wear it more than my black bay 58 and I friggin love that watch. It fits as a dressy diver with a larger size. It's shiny and catches light well. Looks great on my seven inch wrist.
I jumped straight into the Seiko pool with this watch and I must say Ive been impressed. This has me wanting to go up to a Marine Master or (eventually) a Grand Seiko. This watch looks like any other watch but in certain lighting or from certain angles that Zaratsu polished line and the case lines just pop and make you stare at it. Ive had much more expensive watches that arent finished this nicely. And maybe I got lucky because my alignment is perfect and the movement has been very accurate.
Seiko people told me that the bezel of the SLA017 is topped with a thin layer of sapphire glass, the same as in the SBGE 201. I see that the SBDC 051/053 also has the similar bezel, but, perhaps of lower quality from the look of it, but, it's still incredible at this price point. It's like the different quality of ceramic in the GS and Seiko. Even within Seiko, I observed the difference in quality. The Astron has very high-quality ceramic as in the Transocean bezel. You can differentiate this from, say, the ceramic in the Monster.
A good ceramic does not crack or scratch easily. My wife has a watch with the ceramic bracelet which she uses for rough wear. In 10 years, it's still as shiny as the first day. Not a single scratch on it.
If Seiko made the same watch with 40mm case and 46 lug to lug it will be the best Seiko. Imo this is the best hand set.
I owned both this watch and the Sumo . They are both good , but I think this SBDC051 is the better watch . The sumo isnt in my collection anymore , this one is .
They did one thing that goes unnoticed on all reviews on this model, the dial isn't really a "matte" dark grey, but it has some sort of flecking, so it looks quite nice.
The SBDC061/SPB077 doesn't have any flecking on its dial, its just a Flat/Matte dark grey, which kind of looks a bit mismatched under bright light with the lacquered bezel!
I’d love to start the groundwork on a nickname for this future classic. I’ve been calling it the “ modern mas”, but what about “ ronin”? What do you think?
Love that Seiko used a thick clasp and sapphire crystal (about gawdam time). I also really like the hands. However, wish it was 41mm wide-13mm thick-49mm lug2lug, had a black date wheel with white font for a more subtle look. I'm waiting for the price to get down to $500... which is where you find a lot of other watches with sapphire crystal, good clasp, and even better bezel movement, and signed crown.
Lots complaining about the size, but I tried it on and it wears a touch smaller, like Grand Seikos do. Lovely watch, and cheaper for me as I live in Japan;)
I own one and the finishing is superb.👌
Got mine this week. What a classy watch. I prefer wearing it on a Nato band, the original is a little uncomfortable. Understated classy and wears great on my small wrist. This watch needs a COOL NICK NAME.
How is it going after a year?
@@samwatkins9200 Wear it every day at work, and the beach on week ends. Only time it's off is when I'm in bed. Has never missed a beat. After owning many Seiko's, I now own one watch only.
@@danburdiek2697good decision and im on the same page with you about owning only one watch. just buy one watch, the best you could afford
43mm is perfect for a dive for most wrist sizes. The monster dial is a bit too small. This one looks perfect on your wrist.
I was really hyped for this one until I saw that the hands are painted. I like hands with polish/ brushed "metal" finish on them. Maybe I wish still go for it.
Random, i am your fan. I listen to you and Bruce Williams to buy all my seiko watches. Only that i buy them from Yamato Nadesiko. It's amost always cheaper than other stores, and sometimes by quite a lot. And, it provides global warranty. The customer service fantastic. I just write to him for any of the watches I want, even antique ones, and I always get the best price. The money I saved could buy me another few more seiko watches.
love the skx and the monsters by seiko. but it is hard to justify buying a watch which is 5x the price of skx/monster while still missing signed crown, ceramic bezel, perfect alignment
Awesome vid man! Glad you enjoyed it
I agree! Monster is still in first place ...but this one has moved ahead of the Sumo. I got the Blue one -the bezel is little more interesting with the reflective blue. Great watch and review!
Great video Rob, nicely shot close ups, gives us a close look at the case. I need one of these!
A new Kurashikku has just being released, the SBDC 055, a special Padi Edition. This has a blue wave dial. Even more stunning than it's predecessors. At 700 USD, those who have not bought the earlier ones are spoiled for choice. Cheers!
Thank you for the Review. I like the watch a lot, but I fear it is too big for me. My SKX is my biggest watch and my sinn 104 the watch thats fit me best.
But I dont get the pint why not to buy this watch as first Seiko. When somebody like the look and the better quality of the watch, why should he buy a Turtle or SKX instead?
Why would I start with a the lowest turtle if Ican start with a much better piece?
Much better than Sumo
That is beautiful!
Best Regards,
WUG
Why start at the bottom when you can already appreciate the beauty of mid tier. Quality over quantity?
I love, love, love the looks of this one (but I too wish it was a bit smaller) but I can't really justify this one; I already have a Third Gen Monster and my grail is a Marinemaster 300 and this one will have to be a purchase down the line possibly. I just want to throw this one on the MM300 waffle and roll with the "re-interpreted classic" vibe.
SKX is such a great place to start.
A question, did you or Bruce remove links on this watch? I see from the video the bracelet it taken out as far as it come go on the micro adjustments, I have an 8" wrist and own the SBDC053 and want to purchase the OEM bracelet for it, but am unsure if it will fit?
The lug width seems a little off. The case should have been a little wider at the lugs.
Marinemaster strap, isofrane, or waffle strap, that is the question
62mas reissue SLA017 39.8mm. Really a dive watch should be between 40-50 mm. IMO smaller than 40 is not diver spec. The original 62mas was 37mm. I have a 7.75" wrist and love anything between 36-40mm. I just don't like a lot on my wrist as I am active and practical. I found the orange monster to be beautiful but it's wrist presence was nuclear. I eventually sold it mint.
Hello Sir, would it be good for small wrists? 6 inch wrist
I just agreed to purchase a like new model for $540 locally (private sale) but I havent put my hands on it yet. For $540, is it a good buy? Ive had a 007 and an Orient Ray, but other than that no other Seikos.
hello, given that it mounts the same movement of the sarb (6r15) is justified all this difference in price between the two models?
Lovely watch; they pretty much nailed the vintage aesthetic; shame about the size though, not in absolute terms, but in terms of giving it the 'right' vintage look, IMO.
You are right - 43mm is too much, by 1mm. Possibly. 42mm is great as long as there is 22mm between the lugs. Like Steinhart-proper proportions, although on the large side. A 42mm+ with a 20mm bracelet looks disproportional. Awesome watch though. Would be better, by a lot, with 42mm or less. Preferably a 40mm like God and Rolex intended. With proper lug width. And, screwed links. I'd be in for sure with that. A 40mm with 20mm lugs, or 40mm to 42mm with 22mm lugs. Do that.
Looks a bit skx from the side
Tell Bruce to get the uncle seiko waffle strap will suit it great and there comfortable
Keep up the good work👍
skx is overrated piece of junk
what do you think of the blue version? cheers and thanks
From the pics it looks very nice. The blue on dial and bezel don't seem to match but that doesn't bug me.
Given the same 6R15 movement with sapphire crystal, which one should I get: Seiko SBDC051/53 vs SARB033/35?
This one. U will get bored with the sarb, great watch but it’s a little outdated now
Would you recommend this or the Steinhart OVM? I cant decide. Thanks.
What size wrist? Does 42-43mm fit good for you? If so, steinhart is better value and easier more options.
Other cool option is like what Bruce Williams just did, simple Turtle and mod it.
Random Rob hey late reply my wrist is 6.5 inches so.
LumiBrite @ 02:40
Too many strong competitors at this price range (Squale 1521, Marathon tsar, Hamilton Khaki Frogman, Steinhart Ocean 500 Titanium, Christopher Ward C60 Trident). I want to like this watch, but it's too big for my 7" wrist. Wish it was 41" and $500-600. It's only worth $100-$150 more than the Sumo ($450). I'm a proud owner of a Seiko Monster and Seiko fanboy, but I'll wait a year.
Some of them I have not tried. I pretty much agree with you though. So many amazing options that are 40-41mm. Wonder what the overall sweet spot is for most? I would guess from most I see it's 40-41mm
I read that 43mm is currently to most sold size; but with watch collectors - the size is smaller between 40-41mm. The average Joe buying a Fossil wants 43mm. Watch companies are "companies" and they need to sell product to stay in business.
that's a very good point you make.
I’m about to pull the trigger on either this seiko or the squale 1521, I don’t know which.. what do u suggest?
haha as soon as I read Squale I stoped reading that comment ))
Love my 051.
Bezel not in the same class as my Ball Skindiver 2 otherwise nice piece for the price.
How does it compare with SBDC029?
Nice vid man. I think this watch is gorgeous, it just does it for me. Contemplating buying it, I wear a srp turtle well, do you think this watch wears a lot bigger than a turtle. My wrist is a hair under 7 inches. Your wrists on video look way bigger than 7 1/8.
I also have 7 inch wrists, did you buy the watch? How does it wear?
Is the black dial matte or reflective? It's impossible for me to tell.
It's more matte. Not a glossy dial
Bummer, I love the glossy sunburst of the blue more, but the black is more classic.
Any nickname for this beautiful piece ?
62mas
Nice review...thx.
Looks alot like the rolex submariner.
Does anyone know what kind of leather strap will fit on this model or 053, the blue one?
I am also wondering that as I have the blue 053. A bit difficult to match it with the leather strap. I'll probably either end with the black vintage leather or the waffle rubber strap
I want this watch... but waiting until it's price drops down the $600 like the blue version has. Really hate the Prospex "X" logo... >_
U still looking for this watch? Im selling mine
can you tell me the lug width?
Mm strap, isofrane, or waffle that is the question....
What does this one cost ?
vs SBDC029?
Sumo doesn't have sapphire crystal. This model is better.
This or sumo padi limited edition?
this for sure
nearly 1k and no signed crown? Seiko always seems to leave something out
Yes, but you have a few misaligned hour indices plus minute hand not at 12 when hour hand is. Otherwise excellent watch.
6r15 far from being high end . yet a nice watch IF only it was smaller like 39mm
6r15 is middle of the road but great movement. Can be regulated very well.
whats the lug 2 lug ? 22mm
lug to lug is a measurement across a watch from one lug to another. You meant lug width: 20mm
This or the shogun?
Shogun
Random Rob does the shogun have more presence?
Both have about same wrist presence I would say. The shogun fits way better and is more suited for everyday wear. Just my opinion though.
It’s a little to thick. And the lugs look stupid. Other than that this watch is WOW !
Welcome to the "twig-wrist complaints" section...
Wish Seiko would use some Mercedes hands..the broad arrow is just something I can't get used too. Otherwise, great piece
I am sure mod parts will be on this model soon, modding and Seiko just go together.
DAVE Francis oh no, there are too many Rolex lookalikes on the market. Happy that Seiko has their own style
Vincent79Vega or hands like the Marine Master....something less abrasive than a slice of pizza look a like.
I agree with Vincent(not that you asked...lol). I like an original look...no Mercedes hands.
Oh no. No Mercedes hands. But i think i like the hour hand of the Monster and new Samurai better than the hour. Hand on this watch.
A wach at this price point should have a more accurate movement than the 6R15.
That movement is not great regulated. Compare that to the accuracy of the movement in your Steinhart.
I have an SBDC053 ( same watch, but blue), and it's about +4-6 seconds a day. That's pretty good at this price point.
I payed $750
Mmm K
First .... I can't resist