The biggest learning curve for this wepon is to learn to stop moving. If you're standing still this thing one shots easy, but if you even dare to look at the sprint button its pellet spread might as well be as wide and the entire screen
Shotguns in this game need a major buff, they are unbelievably under powered and most of the time require 2-4 shots even at very close distance to kill anyone. I would love to use shotguns but I just cannot bare how annoying it is to have everyone kill you even with pistols versus your shotgun. I really hope they buff it soon.
i have a few hours with the aa12, being around 6 feet away from an enemy the aa12 throws out marshmallows it seems. they could use a slight tweak to their damage output from a distance.
ive been religiously using the M870 since i started and i cant agree ENOUGH with this. ive barely got it 37 today whenever im making this comment, and being close range is not enough sometimes. you have to make a full stop in order for your shots to hit
@@GGwasEZ i think it needs a serious damage buff for close range combat. the fact it cant one shot at close range is insane. they also need to fix the spread problem because idk whats up with that
My aa12 is gold and I love using it, the biggest problem is just the inconsistency, sometimes it 2 taps people frm quite far and the other 3 times you need 7-8 shots and yeah against an smg or eveb an AR you don't get them off unless you're behind them
Been enjoying the videos! Have you notices hitbox for phantom headshots is kinda busted? Went into firing range and you can shoot above left eye with no reg. It may just be on those targets though?
At 18 ping you have an advantage over the majority of players, especially with how bonked the netcode is right now. To anyone even 5ms slower than you they are dying the moment you or them hit that corner with absolutely no time to react because they are dead before they knew what happened.
The biggest problem os you can't use movement at all woth shotguns, the point os to play upclose which isn't possible with the smgs killing so quick and you not being able to jump or bunny hop at all
Have u always been good? Idk what it is with any game I’m always slightly above the average but always distinctly mid. What is it that u do that ur so consistent and good?
Decided to use double XP weekend to try out the shotguns and loaded into Hot Shot since I hadn't tried that mode yet. Ended up having so much with them in that mode, ended up unlocking all the default attachments for the default shotgun and three pistols! With intel suit and the speed boost from being hot shot you end up being able to position yourself very well and slay a ton on small to medium maps (and it's not even that bad on the larger maps if teams are running in packs). Definitely recommend that mode if you're looking to have fun and/or level shotguns and sidearms.
Just a good tip for future self flash bangs ;) You can change it to black screen instead of white screen. Literally a game changer imo! Hope that helps. Great vid btw!!!
Love the videos rich really needed some enjoyment in my life which your videos bring ... been thinking of yeah know un aliving myself had to say it like that cause youtube will take my comment down . God bless
I’ve been using the shotguns a good bit and I think there’s a lot more nuance to them in this game vs. COD. They’re actually pretty solid if you’re accurate, but they’re atrocious if you’re even the slightest bit off. It doesn’t help that the hip fire is trash and there’s a huge penalty for sprinting. I think they either need to make the mechanics with them a little looser, meaning hip fire is more accurate and there’s less of a pellet spread, or buff the fire rate by a good bit.
Not a huge fan of shotguns in this game prefer smg or ar but either way the ttk in this game at range is way to high so ARs are really the only reliable guns along with snipers if you can get used to them maybe lmgs depending on your play style I like to run around a lot though I feel like if you run into two people you’re automatically losing the gunfights this game has a long way to go
I rly hate how shotguns feel in this game. I don't get why the devs made them feel so slow, clunky and inconsistent Every other weapon type feels exactly as it should (except snipers but everyone knows theyre fucked rn)
Going off with that thing! It’s okay but you’re right inconsistent. Double Barrel is good but with no reload speed upgrades it’s just a goof gun. AA12 is a hitmarker king.
@@Gaxko once you grind the drum it’s pretty solid and a must needed upgrade due to the hit markers your right. Doesn’t really become effective for more than one kill until then.
The shotguns are just unironically terrible. I have a good number of attachments on the m8 and double barrel, the double is just better simply because of damage. The m8 is extremely inconsistent at range and has VERY harsh drop off. This is made worse by bad net code. The double barrel has treated me better simple because it has more damage but it is almost always a 2 shot.
Fucking hit reg and net code on this game sucks big time. This video makes the game look great. In reality it's so off. I've been hitting enemies first, hit markers appear but its like I'm shooting them with a water pistol. No damage. They kill me in one second after reacting to my shots. Not always but one game will be okay, next two games will feel like shit. They need to fix this big time or this game will be dead very soon.
This gun is dog 💩 people. The clip was probably his best it's Totally RNG and its percentage of rng is baaaaaaaad. I remember having a good flank on escort 3 easy kills but it took me all 5 m870 shots to kill one person and i was a cleaner and the fire damage doesn't even help the gun. I wanted to cry and break the controller so bad 😂😂 the hip fire seems more consistent than ADS its baaadd
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The biggest learning curve for this wepon is to learn to stop moving. If you're standing still this thing one shots easy, but if you even dare to look at the sprint button its pellet spread might as well be as wide and the entire screen
The flashbang in bed had me dying😂 “wired for 3 hours”😂😂
Shotguns in this game need a major buff, they are unbelievably under powered and most of the time require 2-4 shots even at very close distance to kill anyone. I would love to use shotguns but I just cannot bare how annoying it is to have everyone kill you even with pistols versus your shotgun. I really hope they buff it soon.
i have a few hours with the aa12, being around 6 feet away from an enemy the aa12 throws out marshmallows it seems. they could use a slight tweak to their damage output from a distance.
fuck ur shotgun use
ive been religiously using the M870 since i started and i cant agree ENOUGH with this. ive barely got it 37 today whenever im making this comment, and being close range is not enough sometimes. you have to make a full stop in order for your shots to hit
Damage needs a 2x buff, range needs a 5x buff.
@@GGwasEZ i think it needs a serious damage buff for close range combat. the fact it cant one shot at close range is insane. they also need to fix the spread problem because idk whats up with that
Rich, I know you guys don't get a lot of sun in England, but there are more efficient ways to get a tan instead of flashbangs.
Joke's on you, we get 15 hours of daylight per day in May, not that I'm out for much of it
Shotguns have a terrible spread nerf if you are moving or jumping
once you learn to not jump like a maniac they are great but with with how important the movement is
Shotgun feel sooo good when you get a good flank.
I've been using shotguns all weekend and I love them, got the AA 12 to 29 for the drum mag and it's been a game changer
My aa12 is gold and I love using it, the biggest problem is just the inconsistency, sometimes it 2 taps people frm quite far and the other 3 times you need 7-8 shots and yeah against an smg or eveb an AR you don't get them off unless you're behind them
I'm excited to see how this game does with plans it has for the year, wonder how it'll hold up this fall
You mean you are wondering how it's going to hold up against COD this fall? Because SBMM will only be tolerated by a small fanbase at this point.
@@ThisIsExile91no he said he is excited to see how THIS GAME will hold up ,no one mentioned cod
@@itment5930the needless pitting against CoD is getting annoying honestly. Every game/ community does this like games can't coexist.
@@Rithian_Xerox43 Well said
So funny. I constantly flash myself. Also, I changed the flash to black rather than white, I forget and I think my game crashed, LOL.
I love the double barrel, it's a lot more reliable than the first one
It's cool until you get 20 dmg in 2 shots then instantly die.
@@joemama6216 shotguns are close range
The map designs make it so shottys r viable on most maps
Please keep this channel going!!!
I'm loving the non apex content
5:43 you can change flashbangs in your settings to make your screen go dark
You're easily my favourite FPS content creator. Still remember watching you back when you gamed with Fearcrads. May have spelled it wrong hahaha
Keep it up with the Xdefiant content please! I’ve moved on from apex and miss watching your vids. Hope all is well!
I got my first Bronze camo with this shotgun last dble exp week-ends and it just feel better and better the more attachment you unlock.
Thanks for the awesome content and all the great videos!!
This dude popping off with the skull stacks
I'd just use the default shotgun class in the beginning, it has some good attachments on and levels up the gun regardless
Tbh I did forget that existed, thank you
This must be super secret hardcore mode
Hahahahaha I’m in bed at 1am… watching this trying to sleep… FLASHBANG!!!
Aa12 on cleaner class is like a mini flamethrower. Just full send and play like a squirrel on crack, it's a ton of fun.
P90 is my go to weapon of choice, I've heard some LMGs might be decent though
That flash bang left spots in my eyes lmao
Watching Rich throw flash grenades in this game reminds of watching him loot death boxes in apex
I really enjoyed this video and your commentary. I would like to see more, yes lots of death but it seems to be just a minor thing.
This or the double barrel and the 686 magnum has been my main setup. Magnum is just a mini dmr in my pocket, lol
Name of the soundtrack in the beginning of video?
Jobii - Comatose
Facts it’s so 🔥.
@@iTemp thank you bro, the xdefiant videos have been fire! Keep it up
Been enjoying the videos! Have you notices hitbox for phantom headshots is kinda busted? Went into firing range and you can shoot above left eye with no reg. It may just be on those targets though?
At 18 ping you have an advantage over the majority of players, especially with how bonked the netcode is right now. To anyone even 5ms slower than you they are dying the moment you or them hit that corner with absolutely no time to react because they are dead before they knew what happened.
You think a difference of 5ms of ping makes that much of a difference? I'm not sure what hz these servers are but they definitely are not 200hz lol
POP OFF WITH THAT SHOTTY OKAY!!
best way u can kill more is being completely still, that way the spread is really low
Hilarious. Rich called us out big time with that “in bed at night” statement. Truth.
Yeah I didn't waste time on double xp with shotguns but I will wait till they inevitably get buffed to use them
This guy does know you can edit your class in the game, right? He doesn't have to wait until the end of the game to change attachments or guns.
The way he says GG😂
When i feel like memeing Ive got a loadout with the Double Barrel and the revolver
Point blank 0 damage long range 1 hit, the shotties need a major update
The biggest problem os you can't use movement at all woth shotguns, the point os to play upclose which isn't possible with the smgs killing so quick and you not being able to jump or bunny hop at all
did this shotty get a nerf since this? I can't get a one shot with it unless the barrel is literally touching the person's chest....
Have u always been good? Idk what it is with any game I’m always slightly above the average but always distinctly mid. What is it that u do that ur so consistent and good?
Decided to use double XP weekend to try out the shotguns and loaded into Hot Shot since I hadn't tried that mode yet. Ended up having so much with them in that mode, ended up unlocking all the default attachments for the default shotgun and three pistols! With intel suit and the speed boost from being hot shot you end up being able to position yourself very well and slay a ton on small to medium maps (and it's not even that bad on the larger maps if teams are running in packs). Definitely recommend that mode if you're looking to have fun and/or level shotguns and sidearms.
Now i want to use shotgun lol
Hey man can you please make a settings video? I can’t get my settings right, I would really appreciate it
Man that werdahozat dude in the second match looked so annoying to fight against lol.
Rich change the flashbang to dark instead of light in the settings
Clearly the guy I just dealt with had seen your video because he used a shotty in this spot and never left lol
What’s the intro music u have in the background?
I'll go to Germany one day and I'll be able to speak German a little bit thanks to Rich.
Disappointed by the lack of Phase David references in this vid Rich. No Bo-Selecta for him 😢
Have you tried the 1-2x on the M870?
Ypu can change flashlight hits to dark, so your screen becomes black when you flash yourself again :D
please never use the flashbangs again 😂😂
bro how are you making this shotgun consistant. IM LITERALLY BARREL STUFFING PEOPLE AND ONLY HALF MY PELLETS REGISTER. Its so frustrating
What are your cheese settings?
Please make your flashbangs settings black instead of white. Trust me. Keep the xdefiant videos comming great vids m8
Good job man. I went 82 and 18 on escort with the mk20
I find if I shot the m870 while mid reload it stops and shoots which might be a bit quicker then yy
Can we get a settings video soon?
I’ve never been blinded so much in my life 😂
Just a good tip for future self flash bangs ;) You can change it to black screen instead of white screen. Literally a game changer imo! Hope that helps. Great vid btw!!!
5:45 it was horrendous that’s true
but I’ve also been absolutely loving this game, first time playing in a 6 stack in almost 3 years it’s fantastic
13:37 this one was way worse
Love the videos rich really needed some enjoyment in my life which your videos bring ... been thinking of yeah know un aliving myself had to say it like that cause youtube will take my comment down . God bless
Can you upload a settings video?
Does anyone know good attachments for this gun
I’ve been using the shotguns a good bit and I think there’s a lot more nuance to them in this game vs. COD. They’re actually pretty solid if you’re accurate, but they’re atrocious if you’re even the slightest bit off. It doesn’t help that the hip fire is trash and there’s a huge penalty for sprinting. I think they either need to make the mechanics with them a little looser, meaning hip fire is more accurate and there’s less of a pellet spread, or buff the fire rate by a good bit.
Imo the aa12 is better when you hipfire 😆 I just feel it's more consistent compared to aiming
Not a huge fan of shotguns in this game prefer smg or ar but either way the ttk in this game at range is way to high so ARs are really the only reliable guns along with snipers if you can get used to them maybe lmgs depending on your play style I like to run around a lot though I feel like if you run into two people you’re automatically losing the gunfights this game has a long way to go
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Oh also rich if you use 2x xp token during double xp weekend you actually get 4x the xp confirmed by the devs
I rly hate how shotguns feel in this game. I don't get why the devs made them feel so slow, clunky and inconsistent
Every other weapon type feels exactly as it should (except snipers but everyone knows theyre fucked rn)
Going off with that thing! It’s okay but you’re right inconsistent. Double Barrel is good but with no reload speed upgrades it’s just a goof gun. AA12 is a hitmarker king.
Recon aa12 is best shotgun 20' drum?
@@Gaxko once you grind the drum it’s pretty solid and a must needed upgrade due to the hit markers your right. Doesn’t really become effective for more than one kill until then.
@@fight4urpointofveiw wanna play now?
NICE !!! 😊😊😊😊
Is this hardcore?
neat
My highest kill game is 26. I have gotten 26 multiple times, just cant pass it. Im usually at the bottom with like 10-15
Once you break it you will do it more consistently afterwards, always the way! Occupy is a solid place to try - games tend to be decently long
we are not playing the same game all of your pellets are connecting
Stronger full ads
Full ads vs hip fire
now use the AA-12
nooooo that was my idea
My record right now is 77, on 4v4 lol
Shotguns needs a huge buff, they all suck
I got the record i went like 5 and 13
The shotguns are just unironically terrible. I have a good number of attachments on the m8 and double barrel, the double is just better simply because of damage. The m8 is extremely inconsistent at range and has VERY harsh drop off. This is made worse by bad net code. The double barrel has treated me better simple because it has more damage but it is almost always a 2 shot.
Nice 👍
How come I don't get Bot lobbies like this 😕
there is no SBMM on this game so I have some bad news for you xander
Fucking hit reg and net code on this game sucks big time. This video makes the game look great. In reality it's so off. I've been hitting enemies first, hit markers appear but its like I'm shooting them with a water pistol. No damage. They kill me in one second after reacting to my shots. Not always but one game will be okay, next two games will feel like shit. They need to fix this big time or this game will be dead very soon.
This gun is dog 💩 people. The clip was probably his best it's Totally RNG and its percentage of rng is baaaaaaaad.
I remember having a good flank on escort 3 easy kills but it took me all 5 m870 shots to kill one person and i was a cleaner and the fire damage doesn't even help the gun. I wanted to cry and break the controller so bad 😂😂 the hip fire seems more consistent than ADS its baaadd
HOW THE HELL YOU GET THAT WALLHACK
???????
It’s literally a characters ability in the game 💀💀💀
AA-12 20 roujd drum better
This shotgun is absolute DOG. I think its bugged as it only doessingoe digit damage sometimes point blank
The shotgun and the sniper need a hard nerf.
Commenting
All aim assist
I broke mine last night 63 kills 7 deaths and my kd still a 1.3 been stuck since day one
Those stats are on a 10 game basis not lifetime
First 🤪😝😜🤔
Double barrel is son fun HAHAHAHA
gay shotgun user
This game is 🐶💩!!!….have a nice day 😊👍