Yesterday, I was in a party to practice the M4S sunrise to clear with a friend. I was main tanking and my friend was playing Mch. Everything was going fine at the start, and we even made it to sunrise and saw the enrage. However, things took a turn for the worse. We had done 11-15 pulls in total. On our third pull, I died to witch hunt, and I realized that the reaper took the healer's turn, causing me to take the hit instead. This happened again on the fourth pull, and I noticed that nobody was saying anything about it. The reaper kept taking the healer's turn, causin me to die to witch hunt every… single.. Pull. I'm playing as clean as I can be while others are dying to mechanics like intermission, chains, mustard bomb, knock back from transition, and water tails. Despite this, I kept trying to help my friend progress. By the last two pulls, I was frustrated and ended up making a mistake during EE2, causing a wipe. I took the blame for it. So the next following pull I did the same thing. So I apologize again for my mistake, and told them brain rot is kicking in but the reaper accused me of throwing. Mind you, We never made it back to sunrise after the first early pulls. This reaper was the bane of my soul, Killing me at witchhunt and killing me at midnight during spread/stacks. When I seen them say that I was throwing woke something up in me and I snapped. Telling them on how they cant follow a simple pattern and everything else they caused me to die to. They kicked me and my friend out from the party so I did what everyone else normally does. I checked the logs and found out That the reaper Cleared the fight multiple times on tank and jumped in that clear on a dps. I figured the reaper and one healers were together, because nobody was saying anything about why the two people are doing this weird configuration, but you can't join a party with a strategy that you and someone else came up with and not tell the other party members about it. I felt embarrassed because people probably thought I just suck at witch-hunt when I know how to do it. The best thing that happened after they kicked me and my friend the next pf we joined ended up clearing xD.
The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter if you have a clear anymore. The people who get carried through fights will always show, and it will forever be this way. I don't know how trash climbs so high in this game; it's ridiculous. Oh and never try to get a clear on the final day of reset. You'll find the worst of the worst.
@@CereaII Agree xD I hit my thumb and couldnt play until yesterday which is the last day and boy oh boy, every party sucked ass I even joined an "alt" party which is supposed to be a "we know the fight" and they were like 4 together cause they you saw answers on the chat, every single pull on M3S had at least 7 deaths and yes when you get carried is so obvious I know someone who clear and is still doing M1S parties but when you have a (cleared before) people dont wanna stay if you die more tthan 3 times on before mouser
so true, when i was trying to clear i spent nearly 2 weeks joining clear parties cause so many clear parties cant even make it past ee2. i ended up putting up a pf that had duty complete on it because i was so sick of people who clearly didnt know what the fuck they were doing joining a clear party and we cleared almost immediately why these people think theyre gonna get carried is beyond me
@@Vultee_LR So you know how the boss normally casts Widening, Closet first/farthest out, or narrowing with closest first/farthest out? Let's say it was narrowing with the closest first which indicates the tanks will be the first two people to get hit. So the next part should be the farthest, which is usually where the healers go. They would move past the waymark while everyone else stays in the middle section to avoid getting hit by the AOE. Every time it was the healer's turn, the reaper would be far away. If one of the healers was slightly ahead of them, they wouldn't receive the hit; it would just go to the reaper. After we go out, now it's time to go back in. So now it's a 50/50 chance. Obviously, M2 would be in the ring, so it guarantees he will be hit. But now, since it's me, the OT, and the reaper standing at max melee, whoever is slightly pushed forward will receive the blow instead. But since the reaper took one of the healers down, realistically whichever healer needs to go into melee range to pick up for them. But since nobody was doing that and I was slightly ahead of both the OT and the reaper standing at max melee range, I'm the one being killed because I already received the debuff, and once you get hit twice while it's on you, you'll instantly die. Nobody should have to adjust unless it was an honest mistake but the reaper did this shit every time. That's when I realized they had to be grouped because nobody in the world would let this slide and not ask a question about why the two healers were staying silent about a reaper taking their turn.
Yesterday, when i was trying 2 practice m4, someone brought their buddy in, and he had a lot of 690 gear qnd i believe even had the 660 earring i said "HELL NAHH!" and left 😄
i know most time when i have c41 party for old ult, people greed to the max to get that crisp 99 and not help get the clear for the poor 1 guy at enrage prog for 4 days.
The WHM comment is crazy and only said by people who don't play WHM. Our single target healing kit is much more superior to AST. With double tetra/Benediction and Afflatus (which is the only GCD heal that isn't a DPS loss), vs AST who has....essential dignity. Also, we're the only healer with a 0 mana raise.
@@SaviorLito WHM is okay but the thing about WHM is that you don’t wanna overcap on lilies and AST has more mitigations. AST has a raidbuff making it equally better OR popular than WHM . WHM forces you to cast lilies in between your GCD (even if your team is full hp) Overall I personally think WHM is going to get buffed since AST is a bit superior to WHM . Also lvl 70 WHM is bad because the fact that you don’t have your lvl 80-90-100 traits and actions vs AST that has almost no difference besides the fact they missing 2 ogcds and 1 gcd. Also I wanna add 0 mana raise is nice but not better than healing the whole team on the move without drifting your assise and or using swift cast just to heal on the move in LVL 70 ultimates.
@@Imalen4545 I wasn't talking about any of that. I am talking about the single target capability which is what was stated in the video, about topping people off. Any WHM who spams lilies when they aren't capped is bad. Any WHM who overcaps lillies and holding misery for raid buffs is bad. You can get 6 total lilies between raid buffs. Which means you can get a DPS neutral attack and a DPS positive attack. Casting a lily between GCD is DPS neutral. Because the potency of misery is 3x Glare III. The only time WHM is at a DPS loss when using a lily is if they are capped for misery. WHM has the best reactive healing kit available for all healers. AST healing is timing based. The problem with most AST is that they get so used to their rotation that when shit hits the fan, they are all over the place. AST is by far the superior DPS. And is absolutely superior in a group setting comprised of teammates. But WHM is 100% a better reactive healer. Hands down. You just probably playe with Glare bots that can't do mechanics if they have to press more than 3 buttons.
Yesterday, I was in a party to practice the M4S sunrise to clear with a friend. I was main tanking and my friend was playing Mch. Everything was going fine at the start, and we even made it to sunrise and saw the enrage. However, things took a turn for the worse. We had done 11-15 pulls in total. On our third pull, I died to witch hunt, and I realized that the reaper took the healer's turn, causing me to take the hit instead. This happened again on the fourth pull, and I noticed that nobody was saying anything about it. The reaper kept taking the healer's turn, causin me to die to witch hunt every… single.. Pull. I'm playing as clean as I can be while others are dying to mechanics like intermission, chains, mustard bomb, knock back from transition, and water tails. Despite this, I kept trying to help my friend progress. By the last two pulls, I was frustrated and ended up making a mistake during EE2, causing a wipe. I took the blame for it. So the next following pull I did the same thing. So I apologize again for my mistake, and told them brain rot is kicking in but the reaper accused me of throwing. Mind you, We never made it back to sunrise after the first early pulls. This reaper was the bane of my soul, Killing me at witchhunt and killing me at midnight during spread/stacks. When I seen them say that I was throwing woke something up in me and I snapped. Telling them on how they cant follow a simple pattern and everything else they caused me to die to. They kicked me and my friend out from the party so I did what everyone else normally does. I checked the logs and found out That the reaper Cleared the fight multiple times on tank and jumped in that clear on a dps. I figured the reaper and one healers were together, because nobody was saying anything about why the two people are doing this weird configuration, but you can't join a party with a strategy that you and someone else came up with and not tell the other party members about it. I felt embarrassed because people probably thought I just suck at witch-hunt when I know how to do it. The best thing that happened after they kicked me and my friend the next pf we joined ended up clearing xD.
The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter if you have a clear anymore. The people who get carried through fights will always show, and it will forever be this way. I don't know how trash climbs so high in this game; it's ridiculous. Oh and never try to get a clear on the final day of reset. You'll find the worst of the worst.
@@CereaII Agree xD I hit my thumb and couldnt play until yesterday which is the last day and boy oh boy, every party sucked ass I even joined an "alt" party which is supposed to be a "we know the fight" and they were like 4 together cause they you saw answers on the chat, every single pull on M3S had at least 7 deaths and yes when you get carried is so obvious I know someone who clear and is still doing M1S parties but when you have a (cleared before) people dont wanna stay if you die more tthan 3 times on before mouser
so true, when i was trying to clear i spent nearly 2 weeks joining clear parties cause so many clear parties cant even make it past ee2. i ended up putting up a pf that had duty complete on it because i was so sick of people who clearly didnt know what the fuck they were doing joining a clear party and we cleared almost immediately
why these people think theyre gonna get carried is beyond me
How did a reaper messed up the baits like HTRM or THMR?
@@Vultee_LR So you know how the boss normally casts Widening, Closet first/farthest out, or narrowing with closest first/farthest out? Let's say it was narrowing with the closest first which indicates the tanks will be the first two people to get hit. So the next part should be the farthest, which is usually where the healers go. They would move past the waymark while everyone else stays in the middle section to avoid getting hit by the AOE. Every time it was the healer's turn, the reaper would be far away. If one of the healers was slightly ahead of them, they wouldn't receive the hit; it would just go to the reaper. After we go out, now it's time to go back in. So now it's a 50/50 chance. Obviously, M2 would be in the ring, so it guarantees he will be hit. But now, since it's me, the OT, and the reaper standing at max melee, whoever is slightly pushed forward will receive the blow instead. But since the reaper took one of the healers down, realistically whichever healer needs to go into melee range to pick up for them. But since nobody was doing that and I was slightly ahead of both the OT and the reaper standing at max melee range, I'm the one being killed because I already received the debuff, and once you get hit twice while it's on you, you'll instantly die. Nobody should have to adjust unless it was an honest mistake but the reaper did this shit every time. That's when I realized they had to be grouped because nobody in the world would let this slide and not ask a question about why the two healers were staying silent about a reaper taking their turn.
Yesterday, when i was trying 2 practice m4, someone brought their buddy in, and he had a lot of 690 gear qnd i believe even had the 660 earring i said "HELL NAHH!" and left 😄
i know most time when i have c41 party for old ult, people greed to the max to get that crisp 99 and not help get the clear for the poor 1 guy at enrage prog for 4 days.
Man these one-clear-andies joining uwu totem groups. I dont get how you could have cleared and not know how to do suppression. Hard carried ig.
I hate PF, some of the most annoying people are in there
@@raphu2272 ikr?
Yea I’d avoid PF and stay with my static if school life didn’t get in the way
The WHM comment is crazy and only said by people who don't play WHM. Our single target healing kit is much more superior to AST. With double tetra/Benediction and Afflatus (which is the only GCD heal that isn't a DPS loss), vs AST who has....essential dignity. Also, we're the only healer with a 0 mana raise.
@@SaviorLito WHM is okay but the thing about WHM is that you don’t wanna overcap on lilies and AST has more mitigations. AST has a raidbuff making it equally better OR popular than WHM . WHM forces you to cast lilies in between your GCD (even if your team is full hp)
Overall I personally think WHM is going to get buffed since AST is a bit superior to WHM . Also lvl 70 WHM is bad because the fact that you don’t have your lvl 80-90-100 traits and actions vs AST that has almost no difference besides the fact they missing 2 ogcds and 1 gcd. Also I wanna add 0 mana raise is nice but not better than healing the whole team on the move without drifting your assise and or using swift cast just to heal on the move in LVL 70 ultimates.
@@Imalen4545 I wasn't talking about any of that. I am talking about the single target capability which is what was stated in the video, about topping people off. Any WHM who spams lilies when they aren't capped is bad. Any WHM who overcaps lillies and holding misery for raid buffs is bad. You can get 6 total lilies between raid buffs. Which means you can get a DPS neutral attack and a DPS positive attack. Casting a lily between GCD is DPS neutral. Because the potency of misery is 3x Glare III. The only time WHM is at a DPS loss when using a lily is if they are capped for misery.
WHM has the best reactive healing kit available for all healers. AST healing is timing based. The problem with most AST is that they get so used to their rotation that when shit hits the fan, they are all over the place. AST is by far the superior DPS. And is absolutely superior in a group setting comprised of teammates. But WHM is 100% a better reactive healer. Hands down. You just probably playe with Glare bots that can't do mechanics if they have to press more than 3 buttons.
Awwww that exactly why pf is bs !!