WE STILL LOVE THE GAME... BUT.... - Reviewing My Recent Cynical Views of Farming Simulator 2025
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I think the new farming simulator game is very good that's what's wrong with this world morning complain I think they did a great job with the new one
@@JodyBeard-d8pthey did good but they could have done better
@@ripperlipper1016 Vanessa major step forward in the right direction
@@JodyBeard-d8p but is it really worth the money they could have done all of this in a dlc
@@ripperlipper1016 yes
Same story every release. If modders like you didnt exist farm Simulator wouldnt have made it this long. I wouldnt buy it if mods didnt exist.
Yup exactly
I dare say the company who made pro farm DLC in 2011 (i belive) saved this game. (atleast for me) I was pretty much done with this game untill i tried their dlc and that made me stay,
To bad Giants closed the opportunity for other companies to make money on dlc after that (most part)
This is my favorite game to and im very disappointed. We no they could have done so much better then what they did. Im afraid its just starting to be a money grab cash out. Im not buying fs25 saidly i dont see big improvements until the sales start dropping. And they actually listen to the community and the tornado is a joke like just why is all imm going to say.
As long as people pay for this mediocrity, the devs will giggle all the way to the bank. I said no to FS 22 and I say no to this blatant fleecing.
Stick it, they must...
if we are not critical there will never be growth. if everyone wants to sit in a echo chamber and say "omg new game is awesome" then as a game dev I'm going to keep doing the same thing why change if "everyone" is happy and spending money.
10min of the tech demo they have posted is spent on fog idk about you but do you wanna spend 60$ for fog? no. how about tornados? no. o well, you know we got new machines.... okey so 3 years and you added machines great....
Being critical of something you haven’t experienced doesn’t create growth.
But we have experienced it for years and given the visual and raw gameplay footage of fs25 its blantently clear that its the exact same experience with minor added features as mentioned above, the real arguement is, are these very minor features really worth calling it a new game? Thats where everyone can decide on their own
Theres a new terrafarm that I'm tagging Gaints relentlessly to add to fs25. I just did a video about it. It's very user friendly and no need to have your own version of terrafarm, machines can be added by just setting them up for it.
Yes that would be an amazing added feature I'm absolutely blown away that they haven't worked with that group to bring that into the game
@@FDRLoggingshould have been had that
You got my support I mean you are saying the same exact thing me and my.m buddy have been saying I mean you’re on the exact same page. Idc who gets mad at me or inundated I’m not trying to but I stand on my point of view. It’s nice to see someone with a platform bigger than mine say what I have been. I don’t need the validation but it’s cool.
reminds me of bohemia interactive and constantly recycling assets from 10 years ago though giants arent that bad...yet
i totally agree with you. and i dont see myself playing the game as soon as it comes.
Exactly to all you said. I'm really disappointed. They seem to add things we don't really need when there is a lot of other thing to upgrade or add. Why don't the bigger modders group together and make a game themselves. I'm sure it can be done on unreal or unity. I would fork out the same amount for it as fs25.
I could see that happening
@@Farmhand-Booker terra life plus is the prime example. Make it a DLC. I would pay more for it and be happier
@@nevtzee well the angle im coming from is that I work on farm for a living and yes I’ve been playing since fs15, so put it into perspective when I say if your going to make a game based off a real world way of life, you had better make the game as authentic and realistic as possible (within reason of course as you can’t simulate every aspect of real life)
Modder make this game fun and enjoyable, I would not play more then 100h or so whout mods. fs22 is currantly at 2670h.
so thank you moders you do amazing work making FS a lasting nad fun game.
To be honest this has to be one of the greatest fs descriptions videos/run in years.
I’m sick and tired of looking at games like mud/snow runner and looking at the physic’s of the ground and nature in the game and then turning my head to FARMING SIMULATOR and wonder oh why are they trapped in 2018 with there physic’s/ ground deformation.
It’s been the same thing since 2018-the release of fs19 AKA the same shit as FS 25. GET EXPERIENCED MODDERS IN THE FRONT SEAT OF THE GAMES DEVELOPMENT giants needs to put more time and money in to REALISM OF THE GAME, AKA THE TRUE ENGINE, NOT JUST ADDING MORE LIGHTING OR A FEW MORE TRACTORS, I hope you guys out there under stand where I’m coming from.
I used to play FS 19 on PS4 from release, and it could have been a mod but I vividly remember seasons and snow and plowing the snow. Yet everyone talks about and mentions how FS22 was the first time seasons have been seen in Farming Simulator. I then took a long break, bought a PC, and wanted to get FS 22 on the PC. But they wanted $130+ USD for the Premium Edition, which I thought was crazy. I heard FS25 was coming out soon, so I looked back into it and saw the $50 base price and $80 year-one bundle price. Which isn't bad for a new game. So I looked into what is new and the only "New" things I saw were a few new crop types. I also noticed that Giants reduced FS22 price by about $20 USD across the board, making the Premium Edition $95. Steam and 3rd party sites have since had the Premium Edition on sale for as low as $30. So seeing all of that FS25 just feels like a cash grab. I just feel like the market sales for FS had begun to stagnate, so they needed a reason to be able to charge full price for a game.
Final note I am not a modder but I watched modders bring forestry, mining, and probably seasons to FS19 with great success. As well as watching numerous FS19 mods get turned into FS22 features so it just feels like Giant lets modders make anything they want, and submit to Giants for "approval" to be put on the in-game mod hub. For them just to essentially copy the code and add it to the newest upcoming version to make it seem like they did something. But I only see them doing the bare minimum. Want an example? Go look and see how many rollers are in the game, or vehicles under the car tab. Then compare to the available mods in those categories. Or my personal favorite if you include the Platinum Expansion, the total amount of chainsaws. I'll save you that last trip, the exact same chainsaws that have been in every game since FS 17. They didn't even add a new brand.
Fog. What I wonder is if this is nothing more than a way to falsely blend the “render circle”
I definitely agree with after 3 years it should feel like a whole new game, things added could have easily been added in updates, they need to hire farmer andy that made hof bergmann map, will i buy it, yes but, am i thinking its leaps ahead of fs22, no... since you obviously love logging, theres a game in the process right now called Roadcraft, if you watch the trailer, theres a very short clip of logging in thst game, tell me what you think, yeah its not a farming game but on the logging side of things it looks like some great stuff
Yes I'm definitely looking forward to checking out that game roadcraft see what kind of interesting stuff it brings
I haven't played FS22 in over a year primarily just because I got bored with the graphics quality and overall, somewhat cartoonish feel of the game compared to other games such as NBA 2K, Far Cry, Snowrunner, etc and decided to just wait for the FS25 release to get back into the game. Like you said I also love the game and enjoy the farming side of FS.
Honestly, I have been anxiously awaiting the release of FS25 over the past year but have not been following the release updates due to other priorities, this morning I decide to check out the latest TH-cam videos and was shocked at what I was seeing, my heart sank, I thought I either had a bad internet connection or the videos were of old FS17 gameplay.
I share your thoughts on this new release, nothing has changed other than adding new maps, equipment, animals. Was really hoping for real change to the engine and I'm now left sadly disappointed.
I made a comment but earlier but I deleted cuz I didn’t like the way i wrote it so here we go. I LOVE this game, I farm real life and enjoy the work at every moment. If you’re going to make a game based upon a real world way of life then you need to be as authentic and realistic as possible. It is the same game, not much has changed and I am tired of the other side of the equation saying that we over here are haters (Yes I am looking at you DJGoHam/Farmer Cop). I know a big sukup when I see one and it ain’t flattering. All in all I really hope that Giants realizes at this point that relying on modders to “fix” the game is bad marketing strategy.
I have to agree. The games are good and fun to play but still no significant changes. Giants should seriously consider switching engines in order to give players what we really wanna see in Farm Sim. Great video FDR!
We live in a dying world with the final war on the horizon, And a full economic collapse. You really think we care? most of us will be dead in the next 5 years. The big difference between real life and a game is the amount of data. We are held back by tech right now, waiting on the next big break which is never coming.
If you want to see development conflict and drama, look at the 3 year development of Railroads Online, which is supposed to launch into 1.0 "soon"
I like how the trees and power lines next to the tornado aren't moving at all....
My dream is a mix of Giants Engine with the Snowrunner Engine.
I wonder when *Farming Simulator 2* is coming out...
😂looks like I was onto something. Everyone who told me I was dumb for wanting to keep playing fs22 owes me an apology 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haters gonna hate but they cant argue when the facts are standing right in front of them waving haha
What if.... the upgraded engine is going to make modders have better abilities to sell the game for them? I mean like you said most of the time the modders are what make the game we wanted. Idk just thinking positive. But i also get why the die hard fans are upset. Maybe the upgraded engine is going to be a secret surprise for modders
I would love that if it was the case, I think the issue from my perspective as a modder is we are very stuck with this engine as is, it hasn't really developed an extreme amount in any significant way over the past 2 games.
So even the best modders and mappers out there are given the same base tools and are limited to create within this games basic template. The only way this will be correctable will be a major overhaul to the engine with new dynamics or a new engine entirely cause the current one is barely keeping up with modern game standards.
I hope for the best for the future development of this game but were kinda hitting a real plateau now.
Farming Simulator releases will always be incremental updates. This is by far going to be the biggest jump between releases. But it is still incremental. What you are asking for is a different game.
Then why not do like 90% of other update type titled games, ats, ets, and push out updates for these changes, it doesnt warrant a whole new game to gain the stuff shown in the video above, in my opinion.
Incremental = updates not whole full game releases for another full game price cost
Yes sir great video 🎤💥
I'm surprised that giants haven't given any indication or information on what improvements have been done in the forestry side of the game in fs25, only time will tell
I'm honestly not surprised by that because we usually don't hear about the logging side much on new game releases I'm expecting it to be exactly the same as fs-22 which is why they're not really expanding on it much in these videos
The only place they have shown forestry is a brief cut with a process on that Asian map video which looks exactly the same as all the previous versions of the game.
I don’t know. I personally like the 3 year cycle. Take a game like ETS2/ATS where there are so many dead mods it’s hard to sift through. But i agree, I do wish they’d stop doing the bare minimums and expect modders to fix things for them. The whole season 2 pass was pretty pathetic.
The real changes are on the console side. Same as FS22. Courseplay, GPS is a big addition on console. I mean new crops, weather, new animals is nice on the base game. I don’t see them ever changing the game engine since it’s theirs. The game engine itself is a big selling point for Giants as a company
I totally get what your saying
1000 hours on fs22 great game, first time buying a farm sim type game
I cant speak for the past games
but i agree
The ground after the tornado has to be fixed it looks bad
Your opinion on that was spot on
I wish they let you run greater FPS instead of having locked to 60 FPS and longer render distance for pc players. I don't know if it is possible with the ps5,xbox
I’m have to agree with much of what you say. I love the game and have been addicted to it from FS15. This year feels like another FS17 to 19. I haven’t even pre ordered it this time like I normally would have. I don’t want to have to go through the pain of waiting for all the awesome modders to do their work when I can just continue to benefit from the Stella work available in FS22.
FDR yes you have liked the game since what i remember watching you mod was fs19 but there are some issues that would help modders make things better some changes but there are much more that could be done but this game is awesome and modders make it better and we should be thankful for you and the rest of the modders. People sometimes read into things to stir the pot. I agree with your points it is the same engine they just updated to version 10.1 i think . If giants would only bring farm sim something like gold rush - farm sim combo that would be cool, farmers and loggers sometimes need to move dirt around to make fields and roads and upgrade to allow that type of gameplay would bring the game to a different level.
I gotta say, that there are many problems with fs 22. More problems than with fs 19. To release another edition without so much as a patch for fs 22? Giants is killing a good thing for the bottom line. But I guess that is just late stage Capitalism.
I agree with you 100% please keep up the work yall do FDR Logging is amazing absolutely love the content agree that they should have pushed out updates and expansion adding it the different stuff..
It’s crazy how other games grass looks more realistic than a farming game 😭😭😭
we complain because we care and know that Giant can do way better than (flails hand) whatever this is.
Great Video! Appreciate what YOU have done for the game!
What happen to giant? No graphic difference fs22/25😢😢
I have to agree with you totally. Every new release is disappointing, but there's usually something significant enough that I'll buy it. Usually, I buy multiple copies so I can set up a server at home. FS22 I own 3 copies, I've never set up a dedicated server. This year, I saw there's an Asian map, and I ordered collector's edition. I'm definitely going to buy it on Steam too. I'm willing to keep buying even though I've been disappointed repeatedly. Manual transmissions in 22 suck, so I don't use them. Skid steer loaders and tracked excavators/tree harvesters suck even more, and Giants knows what's wrong with how they handle, but they don't fix it. I don't know the technical challenge that is stopping them, but it's very frustrating when other games have these systems working. Construction Simulator is not a great game series in my opinion, but they DO have working tracked equipment. Why can Astragon figure it out, but Giants, a much more successful studio can't?
I think those are all the same questions that this community has for this game so I totally understand how you feel
it really fucked me up when i saw frming sim 25 on the eshop.
the game ever stutters in the trailer lmao... copy paste pog
Amen
This isn’t opinions this is facts
I've been with FS since FS15 and honestly the biggest leap I think the series has had was probably between FS17 and FS19. FS22 was mostly graphical changes with a step back by incorporating some of the "Seasons mod" stuff into FS but not the stuff that made Seasons really fun. FS22 graphical is nice a bit nicer than FS19 but not really "new version" worthy of improvements. I have seen updates in other games that have had a larger impact on graphics. Yeah, I am not buying FS25 because honestly there is no point. I play both FS19 and FS22 both still and unless there is a major ground breaking improvement on the gameplay mechanics, which I doubt there will be. There is no point just to get a "bump" in graphics. People need to get it out of their heads that better graphics = better game. No, better gameplay mechanics = better game to hell with the graphics.
I 100% agree I think even going from fs13 to fs15 was a huge Improvement and 15 to 17 to 19 I considered all worthy repurchases of a full game
But since then we have definitely hit a plateau and the repurchasing doesn't seem necessary based on the lack of quality value in development
The only honest reason I'm going to 25 would be to have access to the logging equipment that's offered in the premium expansion that way we will be able to manipulate and use base game stuff for logging if that wasn't the case I would not be going to 25 at all
Competition comment… that was me :)
Grass does sway
I disagree I think the next one is a lot different from the last one
Other than the examples I outlined in this video what else is different about it from your perspective I am genuinely curious?
@@FDRLogging i think it looks better than FS 22 cause it don't have old consoles in it
The animals running is not realistic the physics look like crap
Do you guys not understand that there giving you these tools to make these amazing things what other gaming company gives that amazing privilege to put stuff in there game
Well if you actually watched the video all of that is mentioned haha
what i hope one day to see is log sounds when they hit the ground and other wood and branches falling on the ground. Now i know that would be a frame rate killer but if it was to disappear after 10 or 15 seconds on its own after a branch is cut that would still feel a bit realistic as you can see the branches fall off but not a frame rate killer as it disappear after a bit on its own. I wonder if that will ever happen. That be sweet though 😉👍
that would be a very nice addition!
@@FDRLogging it should would be 👍 I donno if FS22 allows for that but i thought if its something jordan did not think about he may like this idea so i will add this idea in his head cause you know you dont have enough as is in that head of yours already so i thought id give you more ideas you may like LOL I think i seen it on construction sim videos, dirt fall off the trucks and when it hits the ground it flattens or disappeared into the ground so i thought hmmmm i wonder if branches could do that LOL
I know its your opinion and that you rarely play the farming side in a Farming Simulator game.
If its not what you want don't buy it.
Why tear it down if you love it so much. Some of us like it. Have fun on FS 22.
So basically you’re saying he can’t have an opinion because you don’t like what he said or critiqued. Thats not how this works there bud
Rewatch the video you clearly didnt listen ;)
I get it that giants wants to stay with the engine they're using. But Its 2025. And triple A titles are massively graphicly improving. And Giants has to up there game. I love Farming simulator. But I agree. With the same dressed up farming simulator. But I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt.
triple A titles are dying as the industry collapses.