I’ve been saying it since this game launched: Bugs aren’t Cyberpunk’s only problem. This game is one of those “wide as an ocean, but shallow as a puddle” type games.
@@tomisabum Lol speaking directly of food. Go to Latino bar - fruit, energy drinks, candy bars. Go to sushi restaurant - fruit, energy drinks, candy bars. Fucking lazy for CDPR man. Plus they act in the trailers like you'll be able to sit down and visually eat food. Not that it's a riveting gameplay mechanic, but it adds immersion. Fucking STALKER mods had no problem adding food/drink animations. Mediocre.
@Cryer24597 Depends on how you look at it, but calling it a masterpiece is a stretch imo. Every aspect of it had been done better by some other game before, but Skyrim went the jack of all trades route and put it all into a nice and comprehensible package. The combat lacked depth, as you're mostly just hitting/shooting shit until it dies without any tactical or skill based approach. The quests were nice, but lacked the weight of player choice. Didn't really give a shit about the NPC's either, as most of them have like 3 voice lines and lack any real personality. Like, I loved it when it came out, but I hadn't played a lot of RPG games back then so I really didn't have a lot to meassure it with, but in the past years I've figured that there were a lot of other games that did everything Skyrim did, but better. It's by no means a bad game, just kind of shallow.
@@hendo2920 "rushed" so I guess 8 years isn't enough time for you then? I mean, I completely agree that they could have waited until February to release a more polished product, but do you honestly think this is the gamers fault? CD Projekt CLEARLY ignored the bugs on older consoles, as well as not having a patch ready upon release to help users with a more up to date machine. This is blatant legal fraud, and will be handled as such.
@@hendo2920 I expect the basic sh** like a legit wanted level system, choices that actually matter, life path actually meaningful after the first 20 minutes. Like them dialogue choices don't mean jack sh** at all and the rpg elements are bare
The bugs are only present on the console versions. But i'm sure nobody will play these games and play shit like osu and geometry dash and post cyberpunk bug compilation videos 24/7
Gta San Andreas had this lol , actually I think most games with clothing do. I know producing games takes time but how can you miss this and a lot of other things previous rpgs have that serve as blueprints tell you, Was the game not beta tested or something around those lines?
@@nicholasreiss7077 Everyone playing the game right now is beta testing. But instead of CDPR paying people to test their game, they figured it'd be much more profitable to let gamers pay THEM to test the game for them.
@@swinehorde9118 The colors on the icons don't even match what they actually look like. Buy some dress shoes you think are white and then they turn out silver.
You must have not seen another video similar to this uploaded before this pointing out the same things. th-cam.com/video/bexA1Oolp0k/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ChrisDavis
Forgetting all the bugs and focusing on the game itself. I would say, it is still a good game. Just not the one we expected with missed opportunity to make it fantastic.
Biggest missed opportunity was factions. You should be able to do work for Tyger claws, voodoo boys etc. Then you get a quest line from them, much like the Thief Guild or Brotherhood in Skyrim. After you complete those quests you are then KOS to the other factions.
new vegas had started that trend and for some retarded reason every other company decided to not build upon that. that adds so much replay value. of course you need a talented team to pull it off
@@Invocated_Agitator no one would complain about a good mechanic, thats not even elder scrolls. fallout new vegas introduced it nd executed it really well but that doesnt mean it cant be improved or tried in some other aspect. copying shitty mechanics is way worse like the filler content that ubisoft open world games provide. that shit is garbage and this game commits that sin
I hope you realize that there aren't actually any factions in the game. NPCs simply have different "affiliation" set, which doesn't do anything, there is no game logic behind it. So when you find all those 'gangs' in the city who are standing still and waiting for you to shoot at them, they're all just generic enemy NPCs with perhaps some visual differences. Must be the most superficially and shoddily code "AAA" game of the century so far. It's such a complete insult it's hard to put into words. Especially if you know anything about programming... then it's all wide open, and the graphics can't distract you from seeing how primitive everything works under the hood. We're back to having a single float health value for vehicles, back to NPC "AI" with merely 3-4 different main states, etc. Unbelievable. CDPR hired monkeys to code this game. I wasn't even hyped about this game, but it infuriates me so badly.
So instead of putting money into important things like gameplay, side content, features, technology, Artificial intelligence, replayability, roleplaying mechanics or attention to detail vast majority of the game's budget went into creating a story surrounding reddit's favorite celebrity and marketing. FFS man 8 years of waiting for nothing.
To be fair the expectations for this were downright ridiculous, it’s like the people who were hyping and developing this game never played a video game before.
@@SobeCrunkMonster I wouldn't say terrible. More like mediocre. Half of games that claim to be RPG are much worse than Fallout 4. But otherwise I agree. Any kind of roleplaying is better than zero roleplaying in Cyberpunk.
Wow, i appreciate the outer world's marketing now. They explicitly said the game was not as expansive and merely a small scale attempt at starting a franchise. As a result there wasn't much disappointment. Cdpr really blew it in consumer trust dept
The fact that in Outer worlds there are factions and choices that actually make a difference makes it a lot more enjoyable and replayable game. In New Vegas and OW you can basically create anyone whereas in CP you just play as V who's personality cannot really be alter. Makes the whole character creator pointless when you can't alter their personality.
@@samuelchvojka7815 Cyberpunk was made by inexperienced amateurs. Thats why Cyberpunk is so trash. CDPR will go bankrupt soon because almost everyone refunded Cyberjunk
In terms of combat/encounter design this is the best high budget rpg. Not in terms of story (which is boring), but in terms of combat encounters, the options you have rival eye divine cybermancy.
I'm so glad people are finally picking up on this. Even if it had no bugs, the marketing was lies, there is barely any choice at all, and seeing how they found that save file size is capped, apparently even looting, crafting and playing the same character for an extended time are things you're not supposed to do because your file will be corrupted and can't be salvaged and it will happen to everyone eventually if they just play the same character long enough. This game is missing so much and is just a mess right now, it's like paying to test the game for them.
It’s so depressing what happened to this game and I had a bad feeling about Johnny Silverhand when they announced keanu at E3, it was clear then that they scrapped everything and chose the linear, easier option.
I'm just guessing here, but I think a lot of the 120 million dollar development cost went to paying for Keanu. I think the CDPR Managers royally mismanaged this game, and that led to pretty much all the RPG elements getting scrapped to meet the budget/deadline.
Haven’t had a bad feeling about him in general - but the hints kept piling up towards release! It‘s remarkable to me how much we are blending out uncomfortable hints if we don‘t want something to be real such as the questionable framing of certain developers („we reeeeaaaally hope that you will like what we worked on“, „if you‘re not sure just wait..“) and the relatively small data package compared to other games of that size...
Seem like CDPR didn’t learn from Halo 2. And ever dev from Bungie regrets caring about the trailer/demo instead of being more concerned about the game. And they always say marketing should never be more of interest then making the actual game.
I knew the game had no choice when I was loyal to dex and it didn't matter. And the vast majority of conversations are linear and rail-roaded. I think one roleplay idea I had was to play a non-enhanced character - someone who values their humanity in a world where everyone gave part of it up to be enhanced, but there is no reason to play that way - not getting implants just nerfs your character. All the negatives you said are completely accurate.
At first I thought he shot me in the face because he'd found out about my betrayal. Then I did a test where I sided with him, and the exact same thing happened. Now I routinely go back and reload quicksaves just to see how much your choices impact, and it really is negligible. No matter what you do or the choices you make, you always end up being able to choose whichever ending you want.
This is a really incredible comment and is more missed opportunity for this game tbh. The underlying message could have been about where the lines of Human and Machine are blended.
How can you play as a non-enhanced character when the first thing you forced to do after your backstory mission is getting cyber eye and ballistic hand implant?
Everyone needs to see this video. This is what i mean when i say this game had a huge and purposely misleading maketing campaign. Night City outside of quests and gigs is litterally DEAD. Finally someone that pointed this out instead of complaining about bugs that will be fixed in a few months. This will never be fixed, it was a lie and they sold it to us already.
And a lot of areas are barren, as if they didn't have time to populate them, like the industrial zone north of Watson, the oil field, the huge area near Pacifica with what's look like greenhouses, there are no workers, no trucks bringing goods in and out, it's completely deserted. They only populated the areas where story missions happen it seems. Everything else is cut content, giving the impression that we only got 25% of what was planned.
I just played Doom Eternal, and that was in every way a better game, outstanding production, and got no awards for it, this is 'the last of Us 2', in first person, Never again, pre-ordering again.
Even the gigs kinda suck they just feel like radiant Preston Garvey settlement quests from Fallout 4. I had no incentive to do them at all because they weren't interesting. I just did all the side quests and then finished the main story and that was it. Cba doing repetitive missions just so i can buy a 130,000 eddie car or a cybernetic implant that you don't even need cause the game is super easy even on hard difficulty.
The glitches are one thing. You guys got to the actual game and pointed out what's fundamentally jacked up about this 8 year old project. Thanks for that
@@wolves600 that’s just wrong because they openly came out and said external and internal pressures were not a factor in the release of the game. Stop defending them.....
@@ds2smoove they could have lied also there was 100% internal pressure why would they release a buggy game early they arent stupid they know it would hurt them
That's why making the game a FPS was a mistake. 3rd person view is wayyyyy better for RPGs, customising and viewing your character is a great part of it.
One thing that pissed me off about the game was the “Corpo Story”. You start off as a Corpo, and then... get fired and become a street kid because Jackie is just a lovable bastard. I think everyone was influenced to believe all 3 paths would basically almost be 3 entirely different games, but almost every single path doesn’t matter. As a Corpo, we should rise the ranks and probably even FIGHT Jackie! Or at least work with him because he’s good at what he does! Honestly, I still love this game because it’s the closest thing to a dream Cyberpunk game for myself, but damn they could’ve really blown the shit out of my mind. The biggest problem is definitely Johnny Silverhand and his involvement with the story though. In cyberpunk I’d like to be V. Not Johnny. I didn’t create my character and develop a story and skillset for them just to be Johnny.
@UFHoee Yeah, I wanted to subvert Corpo by not playing their game but in the first minutes you can't even continue in the first dialoge without "pressing E to sit down" and you go on to fly around in a boring taxi that has less freedom and details than a virtua cop game ... when the game finally seemed to actually go forward with the Jacky diologue it decided to go to the "fuck it I'm not a corpo" routine by itself ... in a cutscene ... I was so pissed that I immediately quit ... I later continued but the first gun fights where so bad and clunky that it didn't take long to quit again ... I still haven't managed to endure more than 30 minutes at once in this game ... it is mediocre 90's gaming for dummies - I rather go back to play some Half Life (2) or GTA instead of pretending that this is okay.
I understand that you are disappointed by many things in the game but the life path thing you said is simply not true. They even said at one of their night city wire that the life paths will NOT make it 3 different games and that it only gives you 3 different intros and some different dialogue options. I agree with the rest of what you said though. They could have made more out of this game
Yeah, it's funny how that works. I think EA has the only marketing department in the industry that goes out of its way to tell you that you aren't going to get what you want.
This game was one of the only things I’ve actually been looking forward to for the past couple years and they were rough years for me for more reasons than(although definitely including) COVID. I know it’s just a game, but I’ve had almost nothing to look forward to or be happy about. I wish I could just enjoy this one thing at least
Don't think like this bro, if you are looking forward companies to make you happy you're gonna be dissapointed... why don't you like clean your mind with the mandalorian, or like watch "the great pretender" on netflix, or I dunno feel your mind with good prayers. Look they fucked up and are paying the prize, you did nothing wrong, and should not link your happyness to their success, nor your achievement, or failures, or shortcomings... Be, and stand on your own two feets, and f them away from your mind, and hearth. It's like a school marks, you're not marked on what you, and the idiot next to you wrote down on their individual paper, you're being judged on what you did, and who care if the other kid ate his test...
The add-on features will come in time, it took cdpr 6 months to improve TW3. I'd doubt they're gonna ubisoft 2077. Ultimately they deserve your faith, but you're allowed to be cautious with them in future purchases for anything.
@@uberwarlocker They won't come, what you see is all your gonna get, and no, they don't deserve to be praised, they don't deserve nothing, but people like to be fooled, don't know why, humans are stupid.
I really can't fathom the game we've been robbed of. Silverhand's story arc shoulda just been DLC. The game is bearable on PS5, but now I'm actually pissed off, great points were made in this video. What you do has no real impact on the world, whatsoever. If they (the corpo-rats) wanted to get their money SOO BADLY, they shoulda taken notes from New Vegas. I feel so badly for the developers, i know this isn't the game they wanted.
Silver hand should’ve been act three. Let the player attain legend say status by taking on Militech, biotechnica, or Max Tac. Once the player achieves Legend, they get offered a job to snag the chip under the belief that it’s necessary to hit Arasaka. That’s when the Silverhand arc begins. How it begins specifically should depend on the players choices.
@@odst123451 yeah. I really don’t like how no matter the ending, you go right back to Embers, it’s unimmersive as fuck. They just HAD to milk star power, which could’ve done the work itself. Tried too hard. I feel so bad for the developers
@@calebchristopherlove5768 I think the chip storyline would work after a rags to riches story were after you make it and are infamous/rich. Then you would get the chip and then your life is on the line and V "burns" the city down to get to the place V needs to go in order to live. The problem is V gets the chip as a fucken nobody that would've been killed within minutes after the dexx drama by the corps if not for plot convenient. As it is the main story was too short seeing as you can still get new side quests a dozen hours after completing the main story. If V had a true third act the game wouldn't have been so bad and some of the side characters could of had more effort/reason to help or kill V. That way dexx doesn't give two randoms the biggest job in night city since "Silverhand" dropped the nuke. But you're right the ending sucks regardless.
@@logandenton6467 completely agreed. I figured doing all the side quests would enable me to have a true fireteam to take down Arasaka. River, Panam, Rogue, Judy hacking, Claire provided getaway, Kerry could cause a distraction outside. hell, even taking on Arasaka was underwhelming. It’d be much more interesting if you progressively made your way to the top and had fame, then, (DLC time) someone introduced you to the chip, it didn’t take and caused cyber psychosis, then Regina captured and saved you then to realize Johnny Silverhand’s engram is in your head and it’s a race against time
150% Agree! Also, the wanted System needs a complete overhaul! Ability to pay your fine/do the time or suffer the consequences. NOT warp to your current position and attempt to kill you! I love the game, I really do but it's lacking the immersion I would want, as you've highlighted in this amazing vid
What he doesnt highlight and no video highlights is the fact the community is the ones to push for the games release so early so thanks to the shitty cyberpunk community wanna bes ruined our game and shoulda let them work on the game longer instead of wine like bitches for its release. The wished to work on it longer and you think you would want to release your game in this state after 7 years of work? It has so many elements so many finished games cant even do its not even funny, not to mention it cares 100 times more about detail and the story actually makes you care about your character for once which was hugely missing any just about all games related to this like bethesda games and mass effect and all those in my opinion dont hold a candle to this. You ask for better cops and not ones who just show up, well if you werent paying attention at the start the cops are not meant to be weak and are not meant to be fought, if that was the case mr realism im sure this cyberpunk world would be a lot crazier. Also its the first open world to show off different lives in a city so well and you actually feel the difference between battles in the city to battles in the dunes, the slums to the inside of many different building layouts to challenges. Not to mention the story line is amazing and actually made me care about whats going on with my character.
@Preston Garvey so your saying your still surprised that companies sell you those lies? This is the normal for games coming out now its nothing surprising or new, not to mention if they were actually saying its done they wouldnt have pushed its release multiple times after january there smart one. If you cant use your own brain to see past such obvious lies then you ruined the game for yourself. Name one game that has come out finished and not in a need to fix still state?
@Preston Garvey and gaming companies dont have to treat anyone with respect, the ones that do will thrive and the ones that dont should die off but if people hate this game so much why do i still even now see most of my friends list on steam still playing the game. Even with the bugs this game has been better made then call of duty, skyrim and fallout which all lied on release and release a buggy mess of a game which people still love, one after what you said it shows me you dont understand how game design works and the fact that the bugs in my play through wont happen to you or it may happen, so releasing it now allows the company to now fix the bugs. So if your mad at the bugs stop being a pussy and just fucking wait a few months for them to iron things out its thats fucking simple. These companies dont serve you and stop assuming they are supposed to, sure catering to their fan base is smart but making a whole video about what a company should do is still never going to fix or change how the companies run until the community itself does somthing like fallout 74 cause i hate to break it to you there has been little to no news about mass refunds cause weve seen what real lies and bullshit is like after seeing fallout 76 drop.
Oh boy.. do not even get me started. The moment they spoke about their "fluid class system" and removed mechanics like wall running, i already knew this could be a let down. Hearing about that system again, now after sinking nearly 80 hours into this shallow crap makes me nearly rage.. Fuck what in the hell was this game even supposed to be? Hell did we even get the original gameplay mechanics after all these years in the first place? I somehow still doubt they thought they needed to make a borderlands type of shitshow, if they spoke for years about deus ex and immersive sim style gameplay. Fuck.. what happend here?!
@@bazzy5644 It was a bare bones Cyberpunk story, they could have done so much more philosophical stuff, meaningful stuff, involved Militech more in the main story since them and Arasaka are rivals after all.
@@hshocker98 Honestly there were so many corporations that should have been more involved. In the end it was just Johnny's path of vengeance against Arasaka though.
I'm so glad this video isn't just a massive rage boner on the bugs and actually talks about how things were misleading in the trailers. Bonus points for giving credit where it's due. Kudos guys, you earned my like
@@JEFFREY2COOL3000 True, especially the constant crashes on consoles. But those can, in time, be fixed. The stuff they cut out, however, will definitely have more of a long term impact
@@darkheathen6765 I know right, it's not like labor abuse after years of development and *still* having the most basic things in any game ever go by unchecked is not worth angering over, amirite?! Then again, anime pfp...
It's ironic that they force you to play as an established character in Silverhand, without even finding out what kinda character V was. You're just a vessel for plot to flow through 😔
@@Pierre-lg3ry you mainly get only two choices per diologe Can you play a carefree nomand Can you play a cocky Street kid Can you play a evil corpro Can you play a alcoholic nomad Can you play a street kid who is just keeping thier head down
The problem is V is clearly supposed to be a self insert for the player. But there’s no consequences for your actions, so it doesn’t feel like V has any character, because nothing you do in the game really gives a chance to build one.
Probably the best decision they could have done for the "final" or "last" DLC, like they did with Blood and wine dlc for Witcher 3 that was BEAUTIFUL to conclude the game.
@Don Desilva I do not have an issue with it being the main quest, but the result. The endings make the entire game feel pointless, all of them suck. Open World games should encourage multiple playthroughs but making the story end on such sour notes makes one never want to attempt it again. The sense of urgency though in an open world was such a stupid decision. Bethesda does that a lot too. Why does any developer think sense of urgency is good in an open world game? People want to explore, you cannot explore if you're on a timer.
@@ImranPangilinan It's because things like MSAA don't work with sprites and require high performance and things like FXAA don't deliver real anti - aliasing.. TAA works with everything, doesn't cost much and pretty much removes aliasing, but it delivers a blurry and ghosty image. Personally, I hate it because even if the image is not completely killed by blur, ghosting kills details when in motion. That being said, there are a couple of implementations which have almost no ghosting at all. Still, nothing beats multi- and supersampling in my book.
Surprisingly not enough people talk about the non existent a.i, the shitty driving, the fact that in a cyberpunk game you can't customize yourself after first choosing your options, horrible wanted systems, the game looks shiny but when you look pass that it's a mess
My roommate was showing me Night City at a low level. Showed me the cop feature and I just grimaced at the screen. He attacked some random guy on the street as a brawler. Punched the guy and started chasing him. He continually punched the guy in the back maybe 6 times. It was like the guy wasn't getting punched at all, just kept running. Then he ultimately pulled out some blunt weapon and finally caused an animation to take place where the guy fell to the ground. Then he was chased by the cops. They popped out of nowhere at him. He ran for a bit and went to hide up a staircase behind a building. I watched on the mini-map as the cop terminatored right towards him and was shooting at him through the wall (no damage) until the cop finally got into view to actually do damage. He had to keep running at this point and finally lost his star rating. I had no hype for this game at all, wasn't paying any attention to anything and the only thing I enjoyed from watching him play was the customization with weapons and your cybernetics. Beyond that, the game looked so lazy to me and I knew I'd never get it or care to play it. CDPR really screwed the pooch on this one and I have a lot of respect for what Sony decided to do with the game for their players.
All great points. Plus the crafting mechanics are heavy handed why do I need 100’s of common components to upgrade a rare or legendary bit of kit. Sure they should scale also the economy selling a gun to a dealer for 50 that he sells for 5000 stupid. No wonder people are finding glitches. Same again for the rpg mechanics way to easy to min max to make mega damage builds like net running mods adding crit damage to guns and swords. All of this had massive potential. The Witcher had a more solid world. This is a sci fi Witcher with a few variables. Things they could have added easily, doing fixer work and rescue missions build favor, you should be able to call in favors if you get in trouble with a gang or the law that you can get out of trouble or stop a fight with a phone call. Or having finding cool hang outs boost street cred. It’s all gun play and fighting no fun living.
Personally, I'm _really tired_ of seeing people blame the fans for all of Cyberpunk's shortcomings. "The fans bitched and whined about the game being delayed, so they forced CDPR to release it before it was ready!" No, CDPR was under no obligation to release the game early because people were getting vocal. Chances are, they released it when they did to capitalize on Christmas sales. "The fans overhyped the game to ludicrously high expectations!" No, CDPR's marketing overhyped the game. They made promises that they failed to deliver on, probably because the game's design doc was not set in stone, or because they miscalculated the game's scale & budget (both of which are very common in the industry). "The haters are distracting you with the bugs - the game is perfect if you look past them!" No, the game's content is half-baked. Instead of crafting/finding tiered weapons and modifying them to suit our builds, we have a looter-shooter system where you're constantly throwing away your current weapons for new ones because they have slightly higher numbers. Instead of an expanding tree of new abilities, we have "+10% whatever". And as a shooter, you have to deal with damage sponge enemies and nonsensical sightlines (that kill stealth).
The idea that they just released the game like this because some pimply teenagers were upset on the internet might be the most absurd notion I have ever heard.
The worst one for me is the "high expectations" argument. Yeah, we had "ludicrously high expectations" for things such as a wanted system and police AI on par with Grand Theft Auto III lmao. Can't complain about people having "high expectations" if you fail to even deliver on basic ones.
“Quick hacking” was the most disappointing thing for me, I’m half way through the game and every fight encounter takes me way longer than if I would’ve went brawler wtf. No controlling enemies, stealthy cyber camo, mono wire hacking T_T. So many missed opportunities and false promises
@@sigelsegal2297 quick hacking is boring as hell but if you are halfway through the game and it's the focus of your build you should just be obliterating everyone.
@@mysticranger6894 The number of vids that are actualy point that Cyberpunk's problems are not just bugs are on the rise...I've seen another 2 besides your link and this one...
@@mysticranger6894 are you alright mate? the video you linked is about glitches, nobody cares about glitches, its the lies we want youtubers to expose mate
What was promised: Deep and complex RPG with lots of features and choices that would impact the story What was dilivered: Poor Man's GTA featuring Keanu Reeves.
@@MichelleHell I feel bad for Mike Pondsmith. He chose CDPR because he felt they were the only studio qualified to do Cyberpunk Justice by making the closet thing to a table top RPG possible. And they failed at that hard.
I'm perplexed that there is no option to change the character's looks considering the entire world is so focused on body modification. For that matter, why can't I pay more and buy an "improved" implant that (for instance) combines the power and smart weapon controlling attributes into one piece? Or the ankles and tendons together (for more eddies) to combine the two types of jumps? That would make sense given the world. ETA Good thoughts on Keanu's appearance in the game. I hadn't thought of that, but they paid him big bucks, so naturally they wanted to utilize him as much as possible, and so rewrote the story. That explains so much.
speaking of which, my furry discord group talk all the time about their disappointment in the absence of "exotics" in the game and animal themed options for customization
They literally had to rewrite entire game to accommodate Keanu Reeves as the main plot of the game. This is a bad decisions by the writers. Much of the resources go to Johnny silverhand's character
@ThatMarchingBunny yes exactly! good job pointing that one out. very disappointing that there isn't even a one off npc with neko accessories. and i myself wouldn't even have mentioned animal based mods at all if it wasn't for the fact that full furries are a part of the lore for the tabletop rpg yet completely missing from the videogame.
Elements of the old story before the rewrite are arguably still present on release. A large part of the early story focuses on V's goal to become successful in Night City, and the game even indicates some level of choice in how V is going to get to the top. There's a pseudo choice in regard to Dex (whether or not V is going to cut him out of the deal) that seems like a branching point for the character (selfish/trustworthy). Instead, Dex betrays V immediately and the linear story with Johnny as the de facto protagonist begins from there. The story was a really big missed opporunity for exploring the world they created, why aren't there joinable factions? Why is V always a mercenary regardless of lifepath and not a corporate agent, gang member, or nomad? Why doesn't the game allow you to play after the ending even though your actions didn't really transform the game world? It all boils down to the fact that they wrote the wrong story for the wrong game.
Agreed. The story was good but not a perfect fit for the setting. A simple 'rise to the top' story would've been great if there was a faction system to interact with. Plus, something that bothers me personally is this obesssion for making cutscenes where your character is weak. It's becoming more and more standard but I don't see the appeal; you just move slowly for a while and hear your char complain (regardless of the personality you're trying to roleplay, so forget about roleplaying a stoic character). The lifepaths are completely irrelevant, sadly. I finished nomad recently and started a corpo one. Felt like the same. In the nomad one I spent like 10 minutes in the Badlands, was told that I had a clan but all I know about it is its name, and found myself in Night City rather quickly (after having met exactly 2 irrelevant characters in the Badlands, which didn't make me feel like my char was really a nomad). In the corpo one I was going for cold blooded killer bitch but I'm friends with Jackie for some unexplained reason so my 'lonely ninja who trusts no one' roleplay was out of the window instantly. Guessing the street kid path will be equally disappointing. And, yeah, before release I was hyped thinking about which factions I would ally myself with on which playthroughs; but the factions really don't matter. You just kill whoever is at the marker. I remember walking into Wakako's office and overhearing a conversation where she assured someone that the Tyger Claws weren't responsible for something, she said "my boys? No, I assure you...". And I was like 'wait, what? I've been killing Tyger Claws left and right, why the hell is she giving me jobs and even helping me if she's their boss?'. They promised NPCs reacting to what you're wearing. They should've included the factions in that, so if you make a black character you have a chance to join the Voodoo Boys, whereas with a non-black char it would be very difficult. Same with Tygers and asians and so on. Also, progressing with a faction could give V a chance to move up to an apartment that's on their territory and themed to the faction, and the same with cars, clothes, and weapons. There's just so much they could've done with the factions, but there isn't even a proper faction system in this game.
You know, now that you point it out, I can't help but think of something; had they decided Keanu was gonna be in the game right from the start, I can't help but wonder if they would've just scrapped V's story altogether and just had just play as Johnny the whole game. We would play as him and see him fight in the war, get his life ruined by Arasaka, form Samurai, become a Night City legend, and finally end with the nuke at the tower
I hate the lack of customization of your character. I can't believe that there is only one body shape and that there's no barber shops or tattoo shops in the world.
I agree, but I'd go further. The game wasn't just sold on standard features like barber shops or tattoos, but that for street kids for example style means everything. Aside from all helmets looking like ass and there being no hide helmet option, the clothing just generally sucks and there's almost no customization options with those either. There's also no emphasis placed on looks in the game at all regarding quests or features either. It's been advertised as meaningful, but is actually entirely meaningless.
Rusty Nail i know. it is sad that a game made in 2020. Witch fancied itself as the “next generation of immersive rpgs”. (Their words not mine). Lacks fundamental features that have existed since 2001.
Honestly therapeutic. I watched the intro of a video which said “imagine you’re playing the best game you’ve ever seen but bugs ruin it”. These reviews were making me feel insane, even without bugs this game is not what was promised.
Watching more of this is really starting to infuriate me. The game delivers only 30% of what was implied with marketing and the massive penitential that could have been. God damn 2020.
khm.. 1. There's no driving AI 2. No police driving AI 3. NPC AI is wrong on the fundamental level and would need to be completely redone, voice-lines included 4. "RPG" like character leveling is just stat stacking most of the time + giving you the option to approach missions differently (by being able to hack or be pacifist) 5. The world is EMPTY, unlike what they show in trailers 6. You can't do pretty much anything on your own terms, apart from main missions. The game straight up fails to deliver the bare minimum of what I expected, and I didn't even expect Witcher 3 complexity.. Assassin's Creed Origins/Syndicate complexity would've been enough. And yet - while the game looks fancy and all, it's just that. A pretty looking loading screen to look at between story mission. I don't think CDPR realizes how much they fucked up. Even if they get rid of all bugs, it's still a shit game to play. And I don't think they're going to pour more money into development, since they probably won't even cover the production expenses. Wouldn't be surprised if this will be the end of CDPR
I actually liked my play through(I bought it without seeing much of the advertising and after all the reviews came out) but going back and seeing what was promised I am getting angrier and angrier realizing why the game could have been
@@blazbohinc4964 While they suffered a hard blow I highly doubt that this will be the end. They made several hundred million. They definitely don't have financial problems right now, the only problems they have are the lawsuits/legal problems and loss of reputation.
I won't lie the whole 'Silverhand is killing you' thing kind of killed my enthusiasm. It's not your story at that point. i would have preferred the rags to riches story. A story where V a nobody is hell-bent on carving their name into the heart of Night City. "This cities gonna know my name, if I have to burn it to the ground to do it." Something like that, not this weird Johnny Silverhand story.
I really hope there will be a mod to literally remove him from the game or at least the life or death part, that way you feel like you can just take your time rather than just rush a stale ending
That's not to mention that the entire plot doesn't make any sense technologically. Like, we're talking about a society that can create a digital copy of a person's consciousness and can even put that consciousness onto a chip that overwrites the DNA of other people and NOBODY thought, "hey, why don't we just start cloning bodies that these consciousnesses can be put in"?
I liked Silverhand but the whole "You're dying and running out of time" hurt. I wanted to enjoy the open world and the quest at my own pace, not being constantly reminded you're going to die if you don't hurry up and find a cure.
CDPR went full EA with this release. Rip. Any future game they release now is going to be handled with major skepticism. Reputation in the gutter. Just another standard developer who downgrades and generates hype on empty promises.
It sucks, I heard Witcher 1 and 2 were janky as fuck with shaky coding too but CDPR didn't have as much on the line back then (if true lol). I'd like them to improve on this game and go again, the world is too cool to let go
@@kisa4748 Witcher 3 was so good though. They let themselves down more than anything. Not sure what the problem was (higher ups, designers/team leads, or a newer development team), but the end result still is a game far far worse than W3.
Don't forget that the Cyberpunk IP may devalue in the long run, I feel really sorry for Mike Pondsmith that his IP will be treated with such disdain for being a mediocre trend, because Cyberpunk 2077 did not live up to the premise of being an open-world game with a life-sim feel and with deep story writing of cyberpunk culture.
My first playthrough I just kept having that, there's got to be more feeling. I was actually getting excited around 30 hours in thinking things were about to open up, but instead got a warning I was at the point of no return. An open world city that makes PS2 era GTA games seem like they were made by people from the future. An RPG with as much choice as a Call of Duty game. And I still have 182 hours of playtime. The year 2020 really is just that bad.
@UFHoee I too was like "you have got to be kidding me, this is he end of the story? Things were JUST NOW getting slightly interesting". I would rather play Witcher 3 three times than play Cyberpunk once. A big let flwni n content quality and quantity. Was not expecting this from CDPR at all. I will be highly skeptical of their next project whenever that is gonna release.
Finally been looking for this kind of content. The game started strong until you start seeing through the smoke and mirrors. Nothing in this game matters. And its down right depressing. I hope more people see this video. I wasn't on the hype train, didn't watch the trailers, didn't track the news, didn't decided to play it until the week it was released. And I am so incredibly disappointed. The basics of RPGs are no where to be found, and the way they do it, especially at the start makes you think you're in the right game for all you could hope. It wasn't until I hit the romance options that I started to see through the cracks. The side jobs that never matter. No follow up, no affect. I can't even with this game. I was looking forward to replayability and now I can't bare to think of it.
I’m literally in the same exact situation as you bro and it was still horrible my reaction was just WTF...it’s downright depressing. Have you checked out the life paths yet because they’re even worse, all of them are street kid basically. Corpo intro was only 10 minutes long and literally cut off abruptly it’s ridiculous it’s totally unfinished. On top of that there’s no good reason to customize your genitalia.
After 140+ hours in the game I can agree with this. The Johnny Silverhand arch would have made a badass DLC quest chain. But as the main overarching premise they kinda tied their own hands with it.
That would have been so much better. Looking back on the story, it definitely seems that CDPR morphed the game to fit Keanu in for his marketing value.
@@timcastelein6598 Couldn't agree more. I'd much prefer building rep and wealth with Jackie than the "I'm dying and Johnny's hijacking my game" plot. Jackie was a blast. He had more personality than any other npc I've met. His death left an emptiness that's never been filled.
I think one of the things that kill "open-world RPGs" is forcing a player to play down specific storylines that artificially introduce urgency. CP2077 killed the immersion or the open-world possibilities by making us have to deal with the relic slowly killing V. Though there is no clock ticking where your character will just die if you don't complete the main storyline fast enough, the urgency kills it in a player's mind. When Vik tells V, "you are dying and have a couple of weeks at most to live," that's not really true. You can ignore the main storyline long enough to go around town and clear out gigs, NCPD scanner hustles, smaller crimes in progress, and side quests before returning to it when you have maxed out your level and street cred. But at that point, a player is just going through the motions of leveling up V. Any personal participation in role-playing inevitably forces the player to a level of cognitive dissonance when they remember that their character is supposed to be dying relatively quickly. A true role player would logically ignore all the side stuff and just go through the main quest because that is the path the storyline sets them on, but your character would not be strong enough to deal with the challenges they will face. For example, in my first playthrough, I progressed far enough into the main storyline where the parade occurs and there's a boss fight in there I was not able to complete because I could not damage the enemy at all, he was so above my character level. I had to revert to a save before I even activated the parade quest so I could go do more leveling up. This forced urgency killed my immersion in the same way the "rescue Shaun from The Institute" storyline killed the open-world aspect of Fallout 4 for me. I am 50 years old and have been playing CRPGs for more than half of my life now. I know what game designers can and cannot do with current technology. With unlimited time and resources, I am sure CDPR could have delivered much of what they marketed to us but the reality is the killer of hopes, dreams, and expectations. I enjoy the game for what it is but I am also disappointed at what could have been. I do not know if expansions or DLC can fix this in the way patches can fix bugs, but I hope that modders find a way to fill in the gaps.
Eh, what's the alternative. If you remove the urgency then the plot often feels like nothing is happening for long stretches of time. And the quests that do add urgency often feel like small pockets of intensity in an otherwise chill world. If you add some timers that reinforce urgency, it makes the game less fun. I think it's perfectly reasonable to make RPGS with urgent stories, ask the player to partake in them and also enjoy the side content.
You know what, they should have gave actual timer which would get Game Over, because at least urgency mattered and people who managed to do all guests would gain some emotional pay off.
@Cryer24597 eh, at least I would be more immersion and it isn't my fault that writers did that (they gave you 2 weeks). At least such decision made plot connected to the gameplay, because right now narrative and gameplay are in dimensions apart from each other.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Sometimes, the cure is worse than the disease. If you want a decent long term story from any medium, there needs to be some urgency. But trying to tie it to gameplay might ruin the enjoyment people are having with it
I was kind of wondering why the Johhny Silverhand flashbacks showed a pretty identical Night City compared to the present. The level of tech seemed oddly the same. The older demo having Johnny die a year before makes much more sense now.
Deeply irritated me as well. 2023?!? Why not 2054, or anything beyond the time frame in which this game might even become fully fledged out? Oh well, guess the wisest course of action is to accept the loss and move on...
worst thing is that V says something like "The City feels different", in a weak attempt from the writters to override the fact that the City looks exactly the same xD
Doesn't Adam Smasher look EXACTLY the same in the flashback sequence as he does in the 2077 part of the game? Dude's a walking cyborg, surely you think they'd have come up with some improved gear in the 50+ years since the Arasaka Tower bombing.
When playing through The Witcher 3, doing side missions felt like a choice. Go to a message board, pick your quest, find the person, barter on payment, do the thing. I didn't feel like I had any choice in being a merc in Cyberpunk. Get too close to the wrong area and your phone starts ringing. "Hey, you happen to be near a thing that is SUPER important and I need you to do it right now KTHXBAI!" Feels more like being led around by the nose, some other quest trying to jerk you away from whatever you were actively doing at the time.
You can't even prioritize the jobs you take or whether you even bother with them or not based on what the reward is because you're never told what the payout is. What kind of mercenary takes jobs without negotiating payment first? Especially if it's for some bullshit nobody gang you have no affiliation with or reason to care about?
Whole premise of the game's story is very stupid. I could forgive the Witcher 3 but this thing in cyberpunk makes even less sense. You are constantly bombarded with messagges and options for side missions troughout the game like you are center of the universe. Plus, it makes absolutely zero sense for V to screw around with anything when his main mission is so much of a priority. He is literally dying with his health constantly deteriorating. It is ridiculuos for him to waste time on some unimportant side gig when he has so much to do pursuing the objective of saving his own life. It is even worse when you consider that everything ends after the main mission. So you can do side stuff only before the last mission. There is no way V could have enough time to do it all. This pretty much ruins the story for me unless i ignore everything and focus on the main quests only which makes the game too short. And the whole intro is pretty rushed. You begin and it fastforwards to you being the most famous mercenary in the whole night city. It is not exactly believeable. It should have been like this... First half of the game you need to build your reputation and then everything with silverhand takes place.
@@tomislavjakusmejarec163 lol so you must hate the skyrim story huh. Or any elder scrolls game at that. Why would you be messing around with the thieves guild and dark brotherhood when demons and dragons are invading. Smh. That’s literally almost every game that does that. This criticism is so stupid
@@thedungeoneer33 Well in every other game, you have option to play after the main quest. So technically each side quest is non specific in it's timeline. Even then, nothing is more pressing than your character dying. Other characters are reminding you constantly that you have little time. Makes sense to do a few gigs to earn money but still...This is not a serious criticism but it is worth mentioning. It's a goddamn video game like any other, no need to have your brain switched on.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt this way. Feel like I’ve mostly been seeing outrage about the bugs/broken console versions and surprisingly praise for the game underneath. The illusion was strong, on all fronts.
The game underneath isn't a bad game at all. The side quests are the meat of the game for me and some of them are well written or at least very interesting (like Sinnerman). But, I didn't pay attention to the marketing so maybe that's why I'm having a better time than most. lol
@@jerrylou4267 I think the game that's there is fine, the writing and characters are well done. It's almost like the opening missions leave too good of a first impression, because the illusion of choice is there. I started thinking "I wonder how this would play out if I chose something else", because the Witcher 3 has that in spades, and then realizing there is no alternative path, to any degree besides the ending, left a bad taste in my mouth. Edit: Also I found the gameplay to be passable and the systems/character progression to be underwhelming
They had the blueprint with all of the rpgs that came before. They should've used Dragon Age Origins background and outcome system, Fallout New Vega's Convo system, Far cry's faction system And Skyrim's world interaction(cooking, woodcutting, etc) system maybe even Divinty 2s They didnt have to really reinvent the wheel or be that innovative just build on what had been established with their cyberpunk vision
@Jonathan Hemphill Tell me about it I'm baffled how they went from adapting Cyberpunk 2020 to a linear Keanu simulator. They honestly should have gotten all the RPG gameplay fleshed out before focusing on things like NPC cutscenes and pretty skyscrapers.
@@noonenowhere877 exactly this, seems like they only worked on the story and totally forgot they were making an open world. The idea they didn’t even have customization as simple as barber shops, tattoo shops, piecing shops??, or maybe even clothing stores speaks volumes. I’ve done def work before and the ai is literally like a draft build, nOt even a draft just the god damn start of making the ai. I’m still wondering like when did you start building the ai, it feels like you can not started in the last six months. After all these years you had no time to make an ai that at least meets current standards? WHY DOES SKYRIM HAVE BETTER AI. A GAME THAT FAME OUT ON PS3. THE WANTED SYSTEM TELLS ALL. THEY DIDJT EVEN PROGRAM POLICE TRANSPORSTATION. THEY COULDNT BECAUSE ALL THE CARS ARE JUST PROGRAMMED TO SPAWN AND FOLLOW A SIMPLE PATHFIND. THERES NO CODE FOR THOSE CWRS TO INTERACT WITH THE IDEA OF COPS SPEEDING DOWN THE STREET, WOULD JUST BREAK THE GWME EVEN MORE. management really is messed up because all they wanted to do was suck off keanu.
Exactly. & the problem is that they marketed this game as broadly as possible, to fans of all of those games. I love DOS2 & I think that it brings a whole market of tabletop gamers too bc you can interact with every object in the world. If you see an apple, you can pick it up, cook it, eat it, use it, etc. Also, they should've copied DOS2's character customization, where u can either choose 1 of 4 pre-made char or make your own
Agreed with your statement. Especially Dragon Age origins and The Elder Scroll Skyrim, but I would also like to add on sleeping dogs and of course gta 5. Pay attention CD Projekt Red, and take action asap!
The biggest proplem I had with the game: I never felt like V, I felt like a stranger looking through her eyes, experiencing a story I was not fully controlling. Even Fallout 4 did the immersion + rpg part better. Which is hard to say.
@@6.0bones Exactly. The story revolved a lot around silverhand and that was not a good decision in my opinion. Also the thought of having a stranger in my head overwriting my "consciousness" doesn't make a good base for roleplaying - at least for me. The stakes are waaay too high.
Yeah I'll never ever get this game or support this company ever again. This game looks like a joke. I had zero expectation for this game cause I knew that it wouldn't be this untouchable game that the trailers promised, I still expected quality from a $320 million dollar game from this company.
this games actually made me rethink my opinion on fallout 4 and now i realize fallout 4 really was not that bad in terms of gameplay and role playing elements compared to cyberpunk 😂
Yeah, honestly, the fact that Cyberpunk has even less choices and consequences than Fallout 4, brings to light how lacking its RPG systems actually are. Yeah your dialog was really limited in fallout 4, and it was really difficult to play an evil character, mainly because the narrative more-or-less forced you into being a good character most of the time. Still, the RPG systems, along with the special attributes and the perks under each attribute, allowed you to experiment with a plethora of genuinely varying playstyles. It actually made Fallout 4 worth playing over and over again. I have almost *800 hours* in Fallout 4, and almost *300 hours* in The Witcher 3. I just can't see myself ever getting close to that much time in Cyberpunk, because after about your first 30-50 hours in Cyberpunk you've seen and done 90% of the meaningful content. It's really a testament to Fallout's core gameplay-loop, which is so *strong* and really engaging for endless hours of time. I come back to Fallout and Skyrim from time to time and still find things that I've never seen or done before. Even just basic exploration isn't strong, or even well incentivized and rewarded in Cyberpunk; there just isn't much to see or do that's truly unique and interesting outside of quests. The Fallout and Elder Scrolls games, and hell, even The Witcher 3, had way better incentive to actually explore the world and find interesting things. Because those games constantly rewarded consistent exploration. Those games also just have way stronger core RPG elements all-around. Fallout 4's Far Harbor DLC is a fantastical example of Fallout 4 having way more meaningful choices and consequences than anything in Cyberpunk. I mean, there are *so many* different possible variations on the three main endings of that one DLC. It's really nuanced and well put together, and more of what we'd liked to have seen in the main story of Fallout 4. It's also more of what we'd like to have seen in Cyberpunk, but was sorely lacking.
@@ishid_anfarded_king If CP77 isn’t an RPG then neither is F4, but F4 is definitely more linear than CP77 not matter how much better it does X minor RPG mechanic better. Just keep that in mind. The DLCs are the only thing good about the action adventure that is F4
I also think making the engine took up years of dev time. Remember this thing still uses the same basic tools the witcher 3 did. Just "upgraded" whatever this means.
Kind of makes me realize I've never really played an open world RPG. Skyrim honestly doesn't count. Oblivion was 1000x more an RPG than Skyrim, you actually had stat builds at least. Level up your character and a skill for perks? That's a sort of intuitive action game, but it's no RPG. Do Open World RPG's actually exist? Truly? Maybe not, we've all just lied to ourselves for what we wish was but actually has never been lol
@@atomic_wait well yes and no. CD Projekt Red is a part of bigger company called CD Projekt, there was also CDP that was supposed to focus only on publishing games on eastern Europe markets but it fell into bankrupcy few years back. What's more confusing stocks you can buy on polish stock market are belonging to CD Projekt (not Red) but they decided to use CDPR's name because of pr that it gives them. I can bet execs never even been into developers studio, just gave orders from headquarters and couldn't care less about how games actually are made. I know, confusing as fu*ck but that's typicall polish way of doing buisness.
As I,too, have discovered through playing, the game's issues, besides the bugs/glitches, are organic in nature. Meaning that the game was wrongly designed from the get go. In order for a game to be immersive, the world needs to be alive, active and responsive to the players actions. Here, this was not the case; for all the aesthetically excellent environments, the world was static, boring and lifeless and the NPCs dumber than dumb. Besides the scripted missions, nothing that I did made any difference in the world. I couldn't even sit on a chair if it wasn't in the script ffs!!! And certainly our choices mattered little to nothing..Add to that the extremely misleading promotional campaign, we are now experiencing the biggest gaming flop of the decade...
One of the by far dumbest things I've seen was in AdumPlazethrough's episodes of him going through the game. If a civilian is in a car that is about to blow up, they will leave the car and stand beside it until they explode and the civilian dies. Like, the civilians are that level of lifeless, the NPCs and cop system are what personally drain my enthusiasm the most. That and my lack of an ability to actually do anything on my own aka outside of quests.
The game feels dead . I’m playing Yakuza 7 right now and how much content it offers compared to Cyberpunk is just absurd . Proves that Marketing is everything and can even change perception that a game is good . It’s mediocre at best .
@@controversialgaming1364 Happy New Year!! Yeah Cyberpunk besides the scripted missions, offers absolutely nothing else to do...The Yakuza series is a favorite of mine as well, because it offers a ton of fun things to do, plus great stories, characters and atmosphere. No comparison whatsoever with Cyberpunk.
I have to disagree. To me the Keanu Reeves theory perfectly makes sense: the whole game feels as if there was an almost full stop during development and then a turn into a completely different direction! Every corner of the game shadows that there was once a vision but they had to cut it off! Most visible it gets in form of the shards and non accessible buildings that indicate a vast lore but they were pushed to most basic solution to implement it in the world - which is a bland text message for the player to read. The buildings feel like there was the idea at some point but then they had to scrap it and instead of doors had to replace them with walls and vending machines etc... The list goes on and on and even expands into the main story line - let alone the shadow of the RPG it was aiming for and then completely got scrapped from the game.... To me this is the worst scam in gaming history! EDIT: the strongest hint for a directional change is that all the textures and lore obviously where there! The game is pretty - if you have the hardware to run it! The lore is there - but implemented overhastily, most basic and cheap just in the way you would expect if somebody runs out of time...
I knew we weren’t getting the game we were promised but I didn’t fully realize just exactly how much we got cheated out of until this video was uploaded you guys make excellent content, but this video almost makes me not want to play anymore but that is in no way your guys fault that’s on CDPR for over promising and under delivering.
I was kinda in the boat like despite all the bugs and cut content at least the story is keeping me going and I'm enjoying my build. However this video just made me feel such a profound sense of loss, like now I don't even think they'll be able to get it to be what it should of been.
@@TropicalEnterpriseLLC it's not a bad game at all objectively it's just not exactly what they said it would be, very linear in the story aspect but its still a blast to ay the game. I can acknowledged that a second and third playthrough will most likely not be a thing dor most people until dlc hits
It's not exaxtly what we where promised is a understatement. I didn't buy it as I've been trashing it from announcement date as I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt it was just gonna be lesser of a dumpster fire fallout 76. And this is now becoming the scary normal for game designers/publishers (let's put together some 4k 200 fps videos on our +10,000 gaming pc and then stretch the truth about game play and how in depth it is then we all get rich and laugh in the faces of overhyped fans)
@@Lamesauce85 Couldn't agree more. And for people who don't have time to play a lot of games, like me, I'd been looking forward to this game alone for years. Profound sense of loss is the perfect way to put it. Mourning what could've and should've been.
Did you know in the original script, Johnny Silverhand dies of old age in 2076. He was originally relegated to a side quest where the chip worked as intended where the player slots the chip in to talk to..... David Bowie. Yes, that Bowie. Mike Pondsmith originally wanted Bowie because he created Johnny based off of Bowie. David Bowie died a few years ago, so they would have used his likeness but they must have changed their mind and when they got Keanu Reeves, they completely scrapped that story.
@UC6gDHCZgq7F4I3_JbmsJnHQ It feels like there isn't a single developer that wont let us down at this point. Blizzard, ubisoft, Bethesda (after 76 I'm scared for the next elder scrolls) aside from doom eternal, I cant name the last triple a game I liked that wasnt on the 360
@@SirTayluh lol what?? Then what are your standards for a good game? There have been plenty of amazing games since the 360. Breath of the wild? The Witcher 3? Spider-Man? God of war? MGS5? Monster Hunter world? You liked none of those games??
The entire game should've been your time with Jackie and then had the Arasaka Heist as the final mission. With it playing out basically the same. Silverhand should've been more of a background character. A "goal" or even a mentor for V and Jackie to strive for or emulate. With Johnny being captured by Arasaka right at the end. You go into the Heist to try and free him. Only to find out he was soulkilled and put on the biochip. Then have the rest play out as we saw. Saburu murdered. You blamed for it. Jackie dies and gives you the chip to take care of. Game ends with you waking up in a landfill and Johnny standing over you with his "wake up Samurai, we got a city to burn" line. Sets up DLC with digital Johnny and Alt and basically the storyline of the main game except Johnny is dying and not you. With us rushing to save our idol or betraying him. But we still get our open-world merc RPG.
@@TheXVortexz the problem for me is that no one replaces him. I liked his death because it was a surprise so it hit me, but afterwards you just feel lonely roaming around.
Its again one of these moments where a single person seems to have a better idea than the million dollar company with 'professionals' had... I too feel the rags to riches story would've been so much cooler and more fitting to a superficial dystopian setting and, as you said, giving the main story kind of an open end, that allows for a nice DLC would be such a good idea... But now we have this and nobody is really happy with the result... welp
This sums up my frustrations with this game. I was expecting a vast open-world RPG, what I got was a linear looter shooter. I might be enjoying what it us vs what I wish it was, but this isn't a game I plan to touch again after beating the main story. There's no point, there's nothing to do.
Speaking of linear looter shooter, this looks like a Rage 2 variation to me, it's dull as shit. Random pop-up numbers like in The Division, bleh. Brick like driving, worse than original Watch Dogs. This game took the worst aspects of a large sum of games and turned it up to eleven. Not even a decent minimap UI, that piece of shit stays zoomed in even while going 200 mph in the city.
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines did the whole “Different Origins, Dialogue Options, & Player Experiences” thing considerably better than this game and it came out 17 years ago. That game, a much better one than this one, also destroyed the studio that made it. Whatever the Hell this unfinished game is, it’s severely damaged the Cyberpunk brand (which is an AMAZING pen & paper RPG system). Cyberpunk 2077 isn’t really an RPG, fails to deliver basics (that games almost 2 decades old have done), and is unplayable on half the platforms it was released on (due to TRC/TCR violating bugs). How did this get the green-light?!
@@lonelystoner8128 You also play very different games with awesome dialogue options and alternate solution paths that were based entirely on your vampire clan and skill ranks. The Malchavian had that extra special dialogue that actually spoiled all of the surprises too (the split personality girl, the location of the heirloom in the haunted hotel, etc.). I loved that.
The larger the game, the harder it is to add all the things you list VTMB is a small game. Cyberpunk 2077 was only in actual development for 4 years. For that time, it's pretty impressive. But they should've taken another couple of years to flesh it all out, add more content. The Johnny Silverhand narrative was amazing, but felt forced. It would've been so much better if it was an optional plot point or optional main quest direction even.
It’s also a shame that they have many different food stalls in the NC but you can’t really hang out with your friends and have a proper meal. What’s the point of having multiple foods anyway, it doesn’t give you a immersion feel but rather cumbersome to search for the food to eat when needed
Almost everything they promised... Was lacking Relationships and companions, Back story and In game Choices, even building your character if you wanna be able to do anything right you gotta put points into Technical
They advertised choice like Detroit: Become Human, but instead they did Borderlands 2 with the illusion of choice lol ALL PRAISE HANDSOME JACK! A great video game Villain.
@@vit968 yeah I agree. I need to really do a second playthrough. Somehow without even trying too hard I got the good ending (or ifirc the best ending out of all). So I would like to see how I can get the bad ending. There's just far too many choices in Detroit.
Here’s what I wanted out of this game. The subway system, customizing the apartments. Drinking eating animations. Getting cyber ware implemented into ur body animation. Just like when you sit in the chair and victor adds the stuff to ur hand and eye. A garage with all ur cars. Way more explorable buildings. I haven’t come across barely Any explorable buildings.
You know what I wanted? I wanted to get in vs apartment take a shower go to bed wake up go out and be immersed like I was in rdr2 but even more so. I was ready to hit the gym mess with people insult them compliment them push them. Steal from vendors get in street fights go to the gun range go to the bar get wasted and cause trouble maybe pick up a hooker take her back home and have fun and the kill her take the money back go to the stores buy things trash the place and run out while the cops come. Mess with the cops and have them arrest me and take me to jail to wait or try to escape. Walk into the alleyways at night with the bums and pick on them take drugs even and act like one of them watching the vast city move on. Take a subway to a unknown area of the city with a shady environment gangs and shady people and try to be able to survive it. Play pool play poker play darts go to a barber a tattoo artist anything. I literally expected all this here.
@Censor Me yeah exactly the fans said that look don't get me wrong almost all problems are with the devs but with the hype I'd say 40% certain people that overhyped 60% devs
Lol, honestly I knew it was bulshit when I heard people saying* I'm so stoked a majority of vertical buildings will be explorable on many many levels how do Cdpr do it* haha, so glad I didn't buy this festering pile of shit
Its disgusting if you think about it, they literally bent down the fanboys and forced them on all fours in order for them to fet ready to fuck them up the arse while shouting we robbed ya! We robbed ya!
Some time between April and May, the official Cyberpunk twitter changed their bio description of the game from role playing to action adventure. Trying to cover their asses. They need to be sued.
I wish the Johnny Silverhand quest line had been just an elaborate side quest, similar to Bloody Baron in W3. There’s a place for him in this game, but not as the central driving force of the story.
Yes. A major sidequest made as a "Thank You" to Keanu Reeves for his involvement in promoting the game. What I would've done is basically shortening the original main quest, making it more wholesome, and giving it a sweeter ending. You're hired to steal a biochip from an Arasaka convoy. You return to the client and access the biochip's contents. Turns out the biochip is an engram of Johnny Silverhand. He isn't a massive anarchist anti-corpo terrorist who set off a nuke. But a lonely rockerboy who misses his friends after being trapped for 50 years. He also isn't a parasitic program slowly killing you, but still inhabits your body for a bit and communicates with you via holo-link and with others by having them physically jack into your system. The objectives of this major sidequest are to get Johnny up to speed on the current events of Night City, visit his old friends and bandmates and have heart to hearts with them, and generally just have fun with him by going out and doing activities in Night City before his engram expires. He'll sometimes have comments to say during other quests, usually at the start and end. And his major sidequest will have an actual timer. 2 in-game weeks before he "dies" again.
Sadly I agree with everything. They forced the first person because of "immersion" But I dont see any other immersion in the game...no drink-loot-grab-eat animation , run animation (when u watch your shadow) is a crap... Npc Ai and behaivor is horrible the whole city is a neon shell nothing more.. I not feel this game or the city has any soul...
"immersion" was code for, "we couldn't toggle between 1st and 3rd person without glitching out our engine." My favorite is the line about, "we noticed that most people didn't play all the content in Witcher 3 so we decided to make Cyberpunk easier to finish," which really meant, "We wasted too much time rewriting the game constantly, so we cut out 2/3 of the content."
I’ve always felt the argument about 1st person being more immersive is bs. Witcher 3, you feel completely immersed as Geralt in 3rd person. For me, 1st person feels like walking around as a camera.
@@phillybobbby Yeah, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but now I'm of a mind that most every explanation of a controversial decision was always BS.
@@accountname8330 I like being able to toggle back and forth, since half the fun of an RPG is seeing your avatar in cool gear. Now I can understand there being technical reasons that such an option is impractical to implement due to the engine, but it's still nice to have.
The looter shooter aspect drags down a lot of the actual game as an RPG to me. I don't think there should have been nearly as much focus on looting stuff rather than buying and using connections from quests to obtain gear. It just doesn't feel right to constantly swap clothing just because of armor ratings.
Modern RPGs with real time gameplay should do away with arbitrarily low damage for weapons, damage sponge enemies and RNG loot based equipment and progression. Firearms should do damage based on their ammo type, with some increase/decrease based on barrel length. While melee weapons would have 75% of their damage be fixed values. To balance this, Stats would determine _how well your character handles their weapon of choice._ To not make the game a brutal slog at the start, the game will force you to make a decent build before starting the game. By either having you pick from one of several different premade builds, or have you spend all of the allotted Stat Points before continuing.
You picked up on the misleading advertising really well, I thought I'd misinterpreted things, but after reading around, tons of features have been removed. Wall climbing for Mantis Blades, ripping open doors/ripping off turrets with Gorilla Arms (which is now just tied to Body for some reason), hacking with the Monowire, reducing 3 of the 4 arms cyberware to special melees. An early build for the game had drones available for Techies, but they removed it after deciding the quick hack capabilities basically made drones redundant, but drones wouldn't have been solely about hacking or disrupting enemies, could've been like Zane's SNTNL in BL3, giving it commands and unique equipment/attacks, like a pet in fantasy RPG. Vehicle customisation was also removed for some reason? Despite them emphasising it in trailers. There's more, but these gnaw at me the most. And the lack of reactivity and choice is such a shame, I love Fallout: New Vegas, and after playing the Far Cry games I've always hoped that someday we'd get a game with a rich narrative and deep rpg mechanics, but with pretty modern visuals and slick action/stealth gameplay, and from the advertising it appeared as if that's what this game was going to deliver, and the worst part is... sometimes it does, and it makes it sooo much more disappointing. I have enjoyed the game and I'm looking forward to another playthrough and seeing what's to come DLC-wise. But CDPR does deserve criticism for this botched launch.
They might as well have just made a movie out of it with their animated trailer skills. This game seemed like it was made for me, a very ghost in the shell type person. Even though I enjoyed the story and music, I'm still quite let down considering how many countless times I watched the demos and trailers.
They really blew the marketing for this one. Flashy world building (lore) aspects were hyped up as if they were a major part of the gameplay, while ultimately for me the best parts of the game are the more down to earth and intimate moments with major characters, plus some life/death and humanity related themes that were never if not rarely mentioned in the marketing. And it seems to me that they morphed the game to fit Keanu Reeves at some point, for the purpose of marketing. What a lesson on how not to market a game.
I read the 250 page book that accompanied this game, I read up on the lore, gangs, history - everything. I own a base PS4 so I can’t even play the game.
Same... I tried so hard to defend it at first, but now after the main story elements of the early game I'm really seeing just how empty and lackluster it is.
@GreenTea I thought it'd be janky but at least a good RPG, I never could have predicted it would be so empty and stretched thin after ostensibly being planned 8 years ago.
SPOILER: I think what bothers me the most is the “point of no return” and all of the endings. There’s no happy/ideal ending since your character is going to die anyways. Like how am I supposed to care that my character escaped night City with Panam if I know he’s going to die 6 months down the line. It had never occurred to me that they rewrote the story line to integrate Keanu Reeves.. I wonder what kind of game we would’ve had without him.
I agree with the criticism in this video, but find a lot of people feeling the way you do, and disagree with them... I'm biased though, I love a good tragedy. It's not an RPG, but it's a brilliant tragedy with a few different tragic options up for pick. I like the way they did it. You can "save your life" in the form of an engram uploaded to a server waiting for a body that can host your horribly Relic warped psyche, you can choose 6 more months with family and loved ones, you can fulfill your promise to Jacky before he died and become that legend you saught out to become, or you can wipe out the corpos and give Johnny a second lease on life, but you can't do them all. It was never meant to be a happy ending, it was meant to be an ending that REALLY tested what you actually valued the most, to make a forced compromised decision that is sad because no choice is ideal, but each one fulfills some principle that you can choose to prioritize above all others. Tragedy rarely gives you the option to pick which tragedy you want without stupid alternatives that would have spared them, or crazy amounts of Deus Ex Machina, but this one actually fulfilled that very hard to locate promise, a true tragic ending where Deus Ex Machina wasn't needed, and you could have your pick of one of many different types of tragic ends. Now... If you hate tragedy and live for happy endings, I agree, this ending totally sucks... But fuck... Even if they had executed this game properly, ANYONE who came into this universe expecting it to have a happy ending is naive. Even if they had delivered as promised this was always an amoral fucked up tragic universe, and the only ending that would ever have been appropriate is an equally tragic ending. IF you had a choice where you lived on, the only way I could possibly see it being reasonable and within the scope of the tragic nature of the game is if it took you calling in all the debts from all your loved ones, all your family, all the gangs, the Corpos, and everything else, and you lived, but at the loss of all those you cared for, Johnny, selling out to the Corpos, the Aldecaldos dying, rogue being slaughtered, and the Afterlife falling... Yeah that would have been a good ending, you choosing life and forsaking all your promises and values in exchange for it. But any other ending kind of flies in the face of the nature of the game, there should be no "happy/ideal" ending... But I can agree with one thing, they absolutely could have made a horrible, extremely tragic, un-ideal ending in which you lived in exchange for everything else you built.
Everyone dies, sometimes life throws a curve ball at you. At the end of every game, your character “dies” in the sense that you can’t play as them anymore past that point. Besides it’s a fiction, if you don’t like the endings the devs chose, then make up a new one.
@UFHoee Star citizen unlike cyberpunk is still getting additional content. Just not getting released anytime soon because of the massive scale of it all. By the time they release it, even mediocre gaming rigs will be able to play it fully at 60 fps. Maybe they planned it like that from the start. I don't care if it takes another 10 years for them to finish as long as there is content, quality and atmosphere, all of which are lacking in cyberpunk.
Looking at your profile pic, makes me wonder, the promotional videos CDPR released made cyberpunk 2077 seem like the new Deus Ex, the one that came out 20 years ago. It's not even close.
CDPR touted this as the most believable city in an open world game to date. In reality, 2001's GTA 3 had more complex, realistic open world systems. The AI is laughable. They really should have made this a linear experience.
@Withnail this game makes me want to go back to RDR2, and I didn't even like that game overall. Found it very boring after a while. But there's no denying the AI and immersion is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Cyberpunk.
Gotta love how both of you talk about RDR2 as if it was another game in the industry, lol. It was made by GTA III developers, and it's years and years ahead of not only Cyberpunk, every AC game also.
@Cryer24597 Yeah, but what I mean is that it feels far more polished and believable for a 2002 game, than Cyberpunk is for an 1 month AAA release, also its soundtrack and atmosphere are unbeatable to this day.
DUDE! I was worried about this before the game even released, I thought I was just being over critical though, so I kind of let it slide. I was telling all my friends before release that I was really worried that they wouldn't show us at least 30mins of uncut gameplay. Nobody had any first hand evidence of what they were paying for with their $60. I'm working through the return process rn. I love CDPR, huge fanboy, but sadly, let's be honest, we were lied to.
One thing that really annoyed me about the game is how many of the quest lines feel...unfinished. Cyberpsycho sightings. 17 minibosses scattered throughout the city, and Regina wants you to try and take them alive. Why? This is something the game has been teasing since 2013. So you play the game, get stronger, level up your character, and one by one you take them all down. You go back to Regina and...Nothing. You get paid and that’s it. I thought I was going to unearth some great secret about why the cyberware was sending people crazy. I thought maybe equipping too much cyberware would make me crazy and this would be a solution to that. But it just...ended. The Peralez’. Call you up to dig up information on their rival’s death. The more you work with them, the more you realise their brains are being altered by some powerful, outside entity. You speculate about what it is, you decide whether or not to let them know whats wrong, and then...nothing. He pays you, leaves, and then they both block you. You get one call in the credits about a further quest you never get to do. Lizzy Wizzy. She’s linked to the Soulkiller questline, they want to make a copy of her while she’s still alive without her consent. You later learn that’s because she’s going a little crazy, possibly cyberpsycho, and she outright kills her own manager. You dispose of the body, she pays you, tells you to keep an eye out for her new Braindance, and...nothing. That’s where that questline ends. The game was absolutely brilliant to play, but it just FEELS unfinished.
I'm damn sure game was in a development hell like Andromeda because of horrible management, we know nothing, but eventually someone will reveal. Doesn't matter how massive an AAA game can be, it can have a max development time of 4-5 yrs. CD projekt isn't a small company, the red studio alone has over 1000 devs
yeah i think side quests should have been connected to story with a real meaning and gigs shouldve been side quests, this way the rpg couldve been done easier and after on maybe they could fix open world mess creating smarter a.i better police some minigames and interactive stuff the game would be saved but doubt cdpr will do this
@@erenanarchy9538 No, many side quests have no relation to the main campaign so but they’re substantial within their own right, for instance, River’s story arc. Gigs are essentially fetch quests which you can grind through and are entirely optional. I chose NOT to do them and competed only the main campaign and all side missions. I feel like the Regina’s cyber psycho quest and the poster glitch quests do not belong in the side missions as they’re structured more like fetch quests. I did not do them either.
@That's On Point! Keanu introduction honestly ruined this game imo I wish they stayed with the original plot instead of the Arkham knight batman/joker plot
The protagonist of the MQ doesn't always have to be the player character. Oblivion made Martin the protagonist, but it worked because of the PC's role in the story. Cyberpunk did it in a way that took away all player agency for a majority of the game. The story has no replayability and that's a death knell for an RPG.
And as people are finding out now, after killing them, do not loot them for anything you don't absolutely need because the save file size is capped so every item, crafting component, etc, is literally draining the life from your save until you hit the data cap and it gets corrupted... It's actually amazing they wanted to release this trash in April.
I’ve been saying it since this game launched: Bugs aren’t Cyberpunk’s only problem.
This game is one of those “wide as an ocean, but shallow as a puddle” type games.
The 'all spices no food' comment in the video really landed that for me in terms of what I felt, yeah. Glad I didn't pre-order.
This game makes Skyrim seem like a masterpiece
@@tomisabum Lol speaking directly of food. Go to Latino bar - fruit, energy drinks, candy bars. Go to sushi restaurant - fruit, energy drinks, candy bars. Fucking lazy for CDPR man. Plus they act in the trailers like you'll be able to sit down and visually eat food. Not that it's a riveting gameplay mechanic, but it adds immersion. Fucking STALKER mods had no problem adding food/drink animations. Mediocre.
I have never seen a comment more on point than this all year!
@Cryer24597 Depends on how you look at it, but calling it a masterpiece is a stretch imo. Every aspect of it had been done better by some other game before, but Skyrim went the jack of all trades route and put it all into a nice and comprehensible package. The combat lacked depth, as you're mostly just hitting/shooting shit until it dies without any tactical or skill based approach. The quests were nice, but lacked the weight of player choice. Didn't really give a shit about the NPC's either, as most of them have like 3 voice lines and lack any real personality. Like, I loved it when it came out, but I hadn't played a lot of RPG games back then so I really didn't have a lot to meassure it with, but in the past years I've figured that there were a lot of other games that did everything Skyrim did, but better. It's by no means a bad game, just kind of shallow.
I'm glad that someone is looking beyond the bugs and talking about the deeply-lacking RPG underneath.
if a racing game don't have pit stops is it a racing game
@@hendo2920 "rushed" so I guess 8 years isn't enough time for you then? I mean, I completely agree that they could have waited until February to release a more polished product, but do you honestly think this is the gamers fault? CD Projekt CLEARLY ignored the bugs on older consoles, as well as not having a patch ready upon release to help users with a more up to date machine. This is blatant legal fraud, and will be handled as such.
Only thing that really shines is the story and main characters
@@hendo2920 I expect the basic sh** like a legit wanted level system, choices that actually matter, life path actually meaningful after the first 20 minutes. Like them dialogue choices don't mean jack sh** at all and the rpg elements are bare
The bugs are only present on the console versions. But i'm sure nobody will play these games and play shit like osu and geometry dash and post cyberpunk bug compilation videos 24/7
Trailers: Style over substance
Actual game: Can't even try on clothing in the store, you have to buy it and then equip it to see how it looks on you
and it looks ass 90% of the time, especially through that grainy WTF effect that's applied to your character's display in the inventory.
Gta San Andreas had this lol , actually I think most games with clothing do.
I know producing games takes time but how can you miss this and a lot of other things previous rpgs have that serve as blueprints tell you, Was the game not beta tested or something around those lines?
@@nicholasreiss7077 Everyone playing the game right now is beta testing. But instead of CDPR paying people to test their game, they figured it'd be much more profitable to let gamers pay THEM to test the game for them.
@@swinehorde9118 The colors on the icons don't even match what they actually look like. Buy some dress shoes you think are white and then they turn out silver.
Sacha Daenens I guess we are lol, but big fixes aren’t too much a problem but do you think they’ll add things like that when they do fixes.
This game is a painting in a museum. “Look, but don’t touch”
Hahaha exactly!!!
More like my sons drawing on my fridge.
@@andreseh87
Yes, if you have a PS3 fridge.
Seems like you watched a certain video
100% this game is just a fluff piece tbh
Honestly this has been, to date, the most honest video about the game.
You must have not seen another video similar to this uploaded before this pointing out the same things. th-cam.com/video/bexA1Oolp0k/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ChrisDavis
Forgetting all the bugs and focusing on the game itself. I would say, it is still a good game. Just not the one we expected with missed opportunity to make it fantastic.
i agree and i am just happy that i was not expecting much from the game.
THEY OPEN MY EYES
I WALK 3 MILS FOR THIS GAME.
I HOPE THE NEW MASS EFFECT GAME IS BETTER.
CAN YOU
watch my vidoes a like them
I only disagree with them on one thing. I think the combat is terribly basic and clunky.
Biggest missed opportunity was factions. You should be able to do work for Tyger claws, voodoo boys etc. Then you get a quest line from them, much like the Thief Guild or Brotherhood in Skyrim. After you complete those quests you are then KOS to the other factions.
Fallout New Vegas did it better
new vegas had started that trend and for some retarded reason every other company decided to not build upon that. that adds so much replay value. of course you need a talented team to pull it off
You would cry then, that it's ripping of The Elder Scrolls. People already DO.
@@Invocated_Agitator no one would complain about a good mechanic, thats not even elder scrolls. fallout new vegas introduced it nd executed it really well but that doesnt mean it cant be improved or tried in some other aspect. copying shitty mechanics is way worse like the filler content that ubisoft open world games provide. that shit is garbage and this game commits that sin
I hope you realize that there aren't actually any factions in the game. NPCs simply have different "affiliation" set, which doesn't do anything, there is no game logic behind it. So when you find all those 'gangs' in the city who are standing still and waiting for you to shoot at them, they're all just generic enemy NPCs with perhaps some visual differences.
Must be the most superficially and shoddily code "AAA" game of the century so far. It's such a complete insult it's hard to put into words. Especially if you know anything about programming... then it's all wide open, and the graphics can't distract you from seeing how primitive everything works under the hood. We're back to having a single float health value for vehicles, back to NPC "AI" with merely 3-4 different main states, etc. Unbelievable. CDPR hired monkeys to code this game. I wasn't even hyped about this game, but it infuriates me so badly.
“You can’t shoot while driving a car.” 20 years old GTA 3 had this feature and CDPR were talking about immersion,funny..
only in the scripted moments lol
@@foxysobek8109 nah if you looked left or right in the car you could fire your Uzi in GTA 3 to do drive bys.
@@foxysobek8109 unless you meant in Cyberpunk
@@TRXST.ISSUES yeah in cp lol
You cant even do a wheelie on tour motorcycle
So instead of putting money into important things like gameplay, side content, features, technology, Artificial intelligence, replayability, roleplaying mechanics or attention to detail vast majority of the game's budget went into creating a story surrounding reddit's favorite celebrity and marketing. FFS man 8 years of waiting for nothing.
$320 million dollars for this lol
This game had such potential man .It could have been the best open world game ever
@@jessicajones2419 ikr. I'm sad and disappointed.
I heard that his rate was very reasonable actually though
Actors destroy game, I learned my lesson from death stranding
Finally someone mentions this and not just the bugs
Yeah that's the biggest letdown for me.
To be fair the expectations for this were downright ridiculous, it’s like the people who were hyping and developing this game never played a video game before.
@That's On Point! not really.
I was expecting a good game any to be honest, what I got was less then I expected so no the hype has nothing to do with the issues of this game
Exactly! The bugs are the least of our concerns and NO ONE talks about it. Bugs can be patched...not the core gameplay.
Expectation: go from rags to riches, your way.
Reality: Terminally ill badass
That's so accurate it made me audibly laugh. Best description of the game ever made.
DAMNNNNNN AHAHAHA
robocop with cancer
Game: "ENJOY OUR SIDEMISH ACTIVITIES!"
V: "I'm dying, Squirtle."
Yeah it's pretty annoying how in the whole game you get treated like a street kid, further proving that the life paths don't mean shit in the game.
Random call from unknown number.
Presses T.
Preston Garvy: Theres a settlement in the badlands that needs your help. I'll mark it on your map.
And if you don't press T, you still pick up. Kinda cheap.
funny how fallout 4 is a terrible rpg but is still better at being an rpg than cyberpiss 2076
Vincent/Valerie : NO!...NO!!!......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
@@SobeCrunkMonster FO4 was a pretty good game actually.
@@SobeCrunkMonster I wouldn't say terrible. More like mediocre. Half of games that claim to be RPG are much worse than Fallout 4. But otherwise I agree. Any kind of roleplaying is better than zero roleplaying in Cyberpunk.
Wow, i appreciate the outer world's marketing now. They explicitly said the game was not as expansive and merely a small scale attempt at starting a franchise. As a result there wasn't much disappointment. Cdpr really blew it in consumer trust dept
The fact that in Outer worlds there are factions and choices that actually make a difference makes it a lot more enjoyable and replayable game. In New Vegas and OW you can basically create anyone whereas in CP you just play as V who's personality cannot really be alter. Makes the whole character creator pointless when you can't alter their personality.
CDPR are inexperienced amateurs and scammers. They only care about money. They don't care about quality and their fans
@@samuelchvojka7815 Cyberpunk was made by inexperienced amateurs. Thats why Cyberpunk is so trash. CDPR will go bankrupt soon because almost everyone refunded Cyberjunk
"There just wasn't enough RPG in this RPG". I think this pretty much sums everything that happened with Cyberpunk.
@@Amadi605 yeah, your own V with branching consequences and customization options. Not some predetermined scripted V, you know, like they marketed.
In terms of combat/encounter design this is the best high budget rpg. Not in terms of story (which is boring), but in terms of combat encounters, the options you have rival eye divine cybermancy.
@@Amadi605 Blind Fanboy.
And not enough AI in the AI.
@@Amadi605 in another video someone showed the Cyberpunk Twitter account changed from "RPG" to "action game".
I'm so glad people are finally picking up on this. Even if it had no bugs, the marketing was lies, there is barely any choice at all, and seeing how they found that save file size is capped, apparently even looting, crafting and playing the same character for an extended time are things you're not supposed to do because your file will be corrupted and can't be salvaged and it will happen to everyone eventually if they just play the same character long enough. This game is missing so much and is just a mess right now, it's like paying to test the game for them.
@That's On Point! The starting minimum save file size on PS4 is 12.59mb. Something is off about that 8mb thing.
@@ejscorp that's the file size of your file but not the individual size of every file. There's no way to see it on playstation. Idk why ask sony.
@@L4Disillusion What do you mean by individual size for each file?
@@L4Disillusion The report specifically said the save file size, which I can check in the settings. It's over 8mb no matter what on PS4 at least.
@That's On Point! I don't know what platform your playing on, but I read that it's a PC specific bug.
It’s so depressing what happened to this game and I had a bad feeling about Johnny Silverhand when they announced keanu at E3, it was clear then that they scrapped everything and chose the linear, easier option.
@Censor Me Reddit moment reddit moment
I'm just guessing here, but I think a lot of the 120 million dollar development cost went to paying for Keanu.
I think the CDPR Managers royally mismanaged this game, and that led to pretty much all the RPG elements getting scrapped to meet the budget/deadline.
@Slick Talk amature no, overastimating theyre own skill yes i think this game is a glimpse of the witcher 3 unprofesional side imo
Haven’t had a bad feeling about him in general - but the hints kept piling up towards release! It‘s remarkable to me how much we are blending out uncomfortable hints if we don‘t want something to be real such as the questionable framing of certain developers („we reeeeaaaally hope that you will like what we worked on“, „if you‘re not sure just wait..“) and the relatively small data package compared to other games of that size...
@Slick Talk I don't want to admit that this is true but it sorta is the open world side of this game is garbage
It has the hurtful feeling of "I'm not mad, just disapointed" written all over it.
CDPR spent the last 9 years making their trailers rather than the game itself
Seem like CDPR didn’t learn from Halo 2. And ever dev from Bungie regrets caring about the trailer/demo instead of being more concerned about the game. And they always say marketing should never be more of interest then making the actual game.
Hey! The trailers are great, right?? Haha
Nah - the entire games plays like one big trailer, that's the problem
I knew the game had no choice when I was loyal to dex and it didn't matter. And the vast majority of conversations are linear and rail-roaded. I think one roleplay idea I had was to play a non-enhanced character - someone who values their humanity in a world where everyone gave part of it up to be enhanced, but there is no reason to play that way - not getting implants just nerfs your character. All the negatives you said are completely accurate.
At first I thought he shot me in the face because he'd found out about my betrayal. Then I did a test where I sided with him, and the exact same thing happened. Now I routinely go back and reload quicksaves just to see how much your choices impact, and it really is negligible. No matter what you do or the choices you make, you always end up being able to choose whichever ending you want.
This is a really incredible comment and is more missed opportunity for this game tbh. The underlying message could have been about where the lines of Human and Machine are blended.
Meanwhile at the beginning of W3, I decided to kill some guards, and now they all spit at me.
How can you play as a non-enhanced character when the first thing you forced to do after your backstory mission is getting cyber eye and ballistic hand implant?
For me it was when I couldn't tell him that I didn't murder the guy.
Everyone needs to see this video. This is what i mean when i say this game had a huge and purposely misleading maketing campaign. Night City outside of quests and gigs is litterally DEAD. Finally someone that pointed this out instead of complaining about bugs that will be fixed in a few months. This will never be fixed, it was a lie and they sold it to us already.
And a lot of areas are barren, as if they didn't have time to populate them, like the industrial zone north of Watson, the oil field, the huge area near Pacifica with what's look like greenhouses, there are no workers, no trucks bringing goods in and out, it's completely deserted.
They only populated the areas where story missions happen it seems. Everything else is cut content, giving the impression that we only got 25% of what was planned.
Reminds me of No Man's Sky.
@@PartyUpLive I actually commented somewhere watch this game be like No Man's Sky
I just played Doom Eternal, and that was in every way a better game, outstanding production, and got no awards for it, this is 'the last
of Us 2', in first person, Never again, pre-ordering again.
Even the gigs kinda suck they just feel like radiant Preston Garvey settlement quests from Fallout 4. I had no incentive to do them at all because they weren't interesting. I just did all the side quests and then finished the main story and that was it. Cba doing repetitive missions just so i can buy a 130,000 eddie car or a cybernetic implant that you don't even need cause the game is super easy even on hard difficulty.
Hype or no hype, this game lacks CORE open world and RPG elements that are NEEDED to make it functional. Ya nailed it, thank u.
The glitches are one thing. You guys got to the actual game and pointed out what's fundamentally jacked up about this 8 year old project. Thanks for that
echincaly its 4 year as while they announced it 8 years ago they didn't sdytart working on it till 2016
@sleeping bear not their fault they got death threats for delaying it and their superiors forced them to release it
@sleeping bear Did you miss the bit where they made The Witcher 3 and both it's expansions in between the announcement and release of CP2077?
@@wolves600 that’s just wrong because they openly came out and said external and internal pressures were not a factor in the release of the game. Stop defending them.....
@@ds2smoove they could have lied also there was 100% internal pressure why would they release a buggy game early they arent stupid they know it would hurt them
The RPG game where you replace your helmet with a newly found cotton headband, because it has more armor.
That's every RPG lol
That's why making the game a FPS was a mistake. 3rd person view is wayyyyy better for RPGs, customising and viewing your character is a great part of it.
@@roojackaroo8517 fallout new vegas
@@FraserSouris Every bad RPG more like it. Divinity 2, Arcanum or even indie stuff like Underrail nailed armor stat for clothing.
One thing that pissed me off about the game was the “Corpo Story”. You start off as a Corpo, and then... get fired and become a street kid because Jackie is just a lovable bastard. I think everyone was influenced to believe all 3 paths would basically almost be 3 entirely different games, but almost every single path doesn’t matter. As a Corpo, we should rise the ranks and probably even FIGHT Jackie! Or at least work with him because he’s good at what he does! Honestly, I still love this game because it’s the closest thing to a dream Cyberpunk game for myself, but damn they could’ve really blown the shit out of my mind. The biggest problem is definitely Johnny Silverhand and his involvement with the story though. In cyberpunk I’d like to be V. Not Johnny. I didn’t create my character and develop a story and skillset for them just to be Johnny.
@UFHoee Yeah, I wanted to subvert Corpo by not playing their game but in the first minutes you can't even continue in the first dialoge without "pressing E to sit down" and you go on to fly around in a boring taxi that has less freedom and details than a virtua cop game ...
when the game finally seemed to actually go forward with the Jacky diologue it decided to go to the "fuck it I'm not a corpo" routine by itself ... in a cutscene ... I was so pissed that I immediately quit ...
I later continued but the first gun fights where so bad and clunky that it didn't take long to quit again ... I still haven't managed to endure more than 30 minutes at once in this game ... it is mediocre 90's gaming for dummies - I rather go back to play some Half Life (2) or GTA instead of pretending that this is okay.
I understand that you are disappointed by many things in the game but the life path thing you said is simply not true. They even said at one of their night city wire that the life paths will NOT make it 3 different games and that it only gives you 3 different intros and some different dialogue options.
I agree with the rest of what you said though. They could have made more out of this game
@@markusbembus6311 they said it alters the game deeply. It was in the life path night city wire. They lied
@@tev0tv they never said it alters the game DEEPLY. You and so many are just interpret things
@@markusbembus6311 21:22 here you got, shut your damn mouth
The marketing department knows what gamers want so well.
Yeah, it's funny how that works. I think EA has the only marketing department in the industry that goes out of its way to tell you that you aren't going to get what you want.
@@publiusdos5925 suuuuuuure
its crazy almost as if the genital customization was a way to trick people in to think there was more customization
Maybe some gamers should better learn about what they want lol
@@viggstable305 I don't think there was any way they could take back gender customization as a feature in 2020, short of a nuclear war.
This game was one of the only things I’ve actually been looking forward to for the past couple years and they were rough years for me for more reasons than(although definitely including) COVID. I know it’s just a game, but I’ve had almost nothing to look forward to or be happy about. I wish I could just enjoy this one thing at least
I know the feel. Strength to you, brother.
I totally understand that ...+1
Same here bud
Don't think like this bro, if you are looking forward companies to make you happy you're gonna be dissapointed... why don't you like clean your mind with the mandalorian, or like watch "the great pretender" on netflix, or I dunno feel your mind with good prayers. Look they fucked up and are paying the prize, you did nothing wrong, and should not link your happyness to their success, nor your achievement, or failures, or shortcomings... Be, and stand on your own two feets, and f them away from your mind, and hearth. It's like a school marks, you're not marked on what you, and the idiot next to you wrote down on their individual paper, you're being judged on what you did, and who care if the other kid ate his test...
Game isn't the problem here if that was the only thing you looked forward. Change your perception
Glitches and bugs I have faith they'll fix. The lack of features and depth is the real worrying factor.
you have confidence, not faith. faith isnt a real thing, and cdpr wouldnt deserve it anyway. sorry to get all overcorrective
@@SobeCrunkMonster well if it made you feel better thats all that matters.
The add-on features will come in time, it took cdpr 6 months to improve TW3. I'd doubt they're gonna ubisoft 2077. Ultimately they deserve your faith, but you're allowed to be cautious with them in future purchases for anything.
@@uberwarlocker They won't come, what you see is all your gonna get, and no, they don't deserve to be praised, they don't deserve nothing, but people like to be fooled, don't know why, humans are stupid.
@@2G28 that's a huge amount of negativity and unnecessary nay-saying. Could you tip your fedora harder for me?
I really can't fathom the game we've been robbed of. Silverhand's story arc shoulda just been DLC. The game is bearable on PS5, but now I'm actually pissed off, great points were made in this video. What you do has no real impact on the world, whatsoever. If they (the corpo-rats) wanted to get their money SOO BADLY, they shoulda taken notes from New Vegas. I feel so badly for the developers, i know this isn't the game they wanted.
Silver hand should’ve been act three. Let the player attain legend say status by taking on Militech, biotechnica, or Max Tac. Once the player achieves Legend, they get offered a job to snag the chip under the belief that it’s necessary to hit Arasaka. That’s when the Silverhand arc begins. How it begins specifically should depend on the players choices.
@@odst123451 yeah. I really don’t like how no matter the ending, you go right back to Embers, it’s unimmersive as fuck. They just HAD to milk star power, which could’ve done the work itself. Tried too hard. I feel so bad for the developers
@@calebchristopherlove5768
I think the chip storyline would work after a rags to riches story were after you make it and are infamous/rich. Then you would get the chip and then your life is on the line and V "burns" the city down to get to the place V needs to go in order to live. The problem is V gets the chip as a fucken nobody that would've been killed within minutes after the dexx drama by the corps if not for plot convenient. As it is the main story was too short seeing as you can still get new side quests a dozen hours after completing the main story.
If V had a true third act the game wouldn't have been so bad and some of the side characters could of had more effort/reason to help or kill V. That way dexx doesn't give two randoms the biggest job in night city since "Silverhand" dropped the nuke. But you're right the ending sucks regardless.
@@logandenton6467 completely agreed. I figured doing all the side quests would enable me to have a true fireteam to take down Arasaka. River, Panam, Rogue, Judy hacking, Claire provided getaway, Kerry could cause a distraction outside. hell, even taking on Arasaka was underwhelming. It’d be much more interesting if you progressively made your way to the top and had fame, then, (DLC time) someone introduced you to the chip, it didn’t take and caused cyber psychosis, then Regina captured and saved you then to realize Johnny Silverhand’s engram is in your head and it’s a race against time
@@calebchristopherlove5768
Yep that would be a 100 times better then what we got.
150% Agree! Also, the wanted System needs a complete overhaul! Ability to pay your fine/do the time or suffer the consequences. NOT warp to your current position and attempt to kill you! I love the game, I really do but it's lacking the immersion I would want, as you've highlighted in this amazing vid
What he doesnt highlight and no video highlights is the fact the community is the ones to push for the games release so early so thanks to the shitty cyberpunk community wanna bes ruined our game and shoulda let them work on the game longer instead of wine like bitches for its release. The wished to work on it longer and you think you would want to release your game in this state after 7 years of work? It has so many elements so many finished games cant even do its not even funny, not to mention it cares 100 times more about detail and the story actually makes you care about your character for once which was hugely missing any just about all games related to this like bethesda games and mass effect and all those in my opinion dont hold a candle to this. You ask for better cops and not ones who just show up, well if you werent paying attention at the start the cops are not meant to be weak and are not meant to be fought, if that was the case mr realism im sure this cyberpunk world would be a lot crazier. Also its the first open world to show off different lives in a city so well and you actually feel the difference between battles in the city to battles in the dunes, the slums to the inside of many different building layouts to challenges. Not to mention the story line is amazing and actually made me care about whats going on with my character.
@@MrSpendil exactly i was perfectly fine waiting a few more months if it meant the game was 100 percent complete.
@Preston Garvey so your saying your still surprised that companies sell you those lies? This is the normal for games coming out now its nothing surprising or new, not to mention if they were actually saying its done they wouldnt have pushed its release multiple times after january there smart one. If you cant use your own brain to see past such obvious lies then you ruined the game for yourself. Name one game that has come out finished and not in a need to fix still state?
@Preston Garvey and gaming companies dont have to treat anyone with respect, the ones that do will thrive and the ones that dont should die off but if people hate this game so much why do i still even now see most of my friends list on steam still playing the game. Even with the bugs this game has been better made then call of duty, skyrim and fallout which all lied on release and release a buggy mess of a game which people still love, one after what you said it shows me you dont understand how game design works and the fact that the bugs in my play through wont happen to you or it may happen, so releasing it now allows the company to now fix the bugs. So if your mad at the bugs stop being a pussy and just fucking wait a few months for them to iron things out its thats fucking simple. These companies dont serve you and stop assuming they are supposed to, sure catering to their fan base is smart but making a whole video about what a company should do is still never going to fix or change how the companies run until the community itself does somthing like fallout 74 cause i hate to break it to you there has been little to no news about mass refunds cause weve seen what real lies and bullshit is like after seeing fallout 76 drop.
@Preston Garvey He still refuses to see where you’re coming from.
You may have to...
Mark it on his map.
I remember when CDPR advertised humanity cost as a consequence for using too much cyberware.
Oh boy.. do not even get me started. The moment they spoke about their "fluid class system" and removed mechanics like wall running, i already knew this could be a let down. Hearing about that system again, now after sinking nearly 80 hours into this shallow crap makes me nearly rage.. Fuck what in the hell was this game even supposed to be? Hell did we even get the original gameplay mechanics after all these years in the first place? I somehow still doubt they thought they needed to make a borderlands type of shitshow, if they spoke for years about deus ex and immersive sim style gameplay. Fuck.. what happend here?!
@@bazzy5644 It was a bare bones Cyberpunk story, they could have done so much more philosophical stuff, meaningful stuff, involved Militech more in the main story since them and Arasaka are rivals after all.
@@katzenlady3245 and Kang Tao as well
@@hshocker98 Honestly there were so many corporations that should have been more involved. In the end it was just Johnny's path of vengeance against Arasaka though.
They couldn't even outdo VTMB, a 20yo game.
I'm so glad this video isn't just a massive rage boner on the bugs and actually talks about how things were misleading in the trailers. Bonus points for giving credit where it's due. Kudos guys, you earned my like
The bug rants were for the low IQ gamers that are naive and can't see things for what they are.
Considering they crunch the devs for months for quality testing, I think the bugs rage was a little justified.
@@JEFFREY2COOL3000 True, especially the constant crashes on consoles. But those can, in time, be fixed. The stuff they cut out, however, will definitely have more of a long term impact
True, but the whole Bethesda method(release now, fix later) did not do them any favors.
@@darkheathen6765 I know right, it's not like labor abuse after years of development and *still* having the most basic things in any game ever go by unchecked is not worth angering over, amirite?!
Then again, anime pfp...
It's ironic that they force you to play as an established character in Silverhand, without even finding out what kinda character V was. You're just a vessel for plot to flow through 😔
I don't agree. Yes, Silverhand is an established character but V is given a lot of opportunity to interact with it the way they want
@@Pierre-lg3ry you mainly get only two choices per diologe
Can you play a carefree nomand
Can you play a cocky Street kid
Can you play a evil corpro
Can you play a alcoholic nomad
Can you play a street kid who is just keeping thier head down
@@rsdillbot3646 already playing an alcoholic nomad in my daily life, I rather not play as one in the game 😁
The problem is V is clearly supposed to be a self insert for the player. But there’s no consequences for your actions, so it doesn’t feel like V has any character, because nothing you do in the game really gives a chance to build one.
Yesss let the plot flow through you! -Palpatine in Episode 9
Johnny Silverhand's story should have been DLC, as in the main quest for some DLC content, and not the main quest-line of the game.
Probably the best decision they could have done for the "final" or "last" DLC, like they did with Blood and wine dlc for Witcher 3 that was BEAUTIFUL to conclude the game.
If you think that should of been a dlc just wait for the real dlcs
Jackie story where is it ohh Jackie you die for plot that I didn't care about cuz who are you
Just what I was thinking, and as a DLC I would have paid good money for it if the basic game was as promised.
@Don Desilva I do not have an issue with it being the main quest, but the result. The endings make the entire game feel pointless, all of them suck. Open World games should encourage multiple playthroughs but making the story end on such sour notes makes one never want to attempt it again.
The sense of urgency though in an open world was such a stupid decision. Bethesda does that a lot too. Why does any developer think sense of urgency is good in an open world game? People want to explore, you cannot explore if you're on a timer.
Jesus even their own trailers showed the ghosting effect while driving cars.
Ya, it shocked me too. I thought it was just there because I was using DLSS.
@@joshlentz7468 Ghosting is a result of temporal AA, not DLSS.
TAA... it is common across all games. TAA just sucks
@@ImranPangilinan It's because things like MSAA don't work with sprites and require high performance and things like FXAA don't deliver real anti - aliasing.. TAA works with everything, doesn't cost much and pretty much removes aliasing, but it delivers a blurry and ghosty image. Personally, I hate it because even if the image is not completely killed by blur, ghosting kills details when in motion. That being said, there are a couple of implementations which have almost no ghosting at all. Still, nothing beats multi- and supersampling in my book.
Surprisingly not enough people talk about the non existent a.i, the shitty driving, the fact that in a cyberpunk game you can't customize yourself after first choosing your options, horrible wanted systems, the game looks shiny but when you look pass that it's a mess
shiny? it litterally has an inbuilt sepia filter on it to take the shine away
I hate the fact that the red lights usually flip to green when I get near. Their traffic system is just another illusion.
My roommate was showing me Night City at a low level. Showed me the cop feature and I just grimaced at the screen. He attacked some random guy on the street as a brawler. Punched the guy and started chasing him. He continually punched the guy in the back maybe 6 times. It was like the guy wasn't getting punched at all, just kept running. Then he ultimately pulled out some blunt weapon and finally caused an animation to take place where the guy fell to the ground. Then he was chased by the cops. They popped out of nowhere at him. He ran for a bit and went to hide up a staircase behind a building. I watched on the mini-map as the cop terminatored right towards him and was shooting at him through the wall (no damage) until the cop finally got into view to actually do damage. He had to keep running at this point and finally lost his star rating.
I had no hype for this game at all, wasn't paying any attention to anything and the only thing I enjoyed from watching him play was the customization with weapons and your cybernetics. Beyond that, the game looked so lazy to me and I knew I'd never get it or care to play it. CDPR really screwed the pooch on this one and I have a lot of respect for what Sony decided to do with the game for their players.
All great points. Plus the crafting mechanics are heavy handed why do I need 100’s of common components to upgrade a rare or legendary bit of kit. Sure they should scale also the economy selling a gun to a dealer for 50 that he sells for 5000 stupid. No wonder people are finding glitches. Same again for the rpg mechanics way to easy to min max to make mega damage builds like net running mods adding crit damage to guns and swords. All of this had massive potential. The Witcher had a more solid world. This is a sci fi Witcher with a few variables. Things they could have added easily, doing fixer work and rescue missions build favor, you should be able to call in favors if you get in trouble with a gang or the law that you can get out of trouble or stop a fight with a phone call. Or having finding cool hang outs boost street cred. It’s all gun play and fighting no fun living.
No transmog either that forces you to look like a clown
Personally, I'm _really tired_ of seeing people blame the fans for all of Cyberpunk's shortcomings.
"The fans bitched and whined about the game being delayed, so they forced CDPR to release it before it was ready!"
No, CDPR was under no obligation to release the game early because people were getting vocal. Chances are, they released it when they did to capitalize on Christmas sales.
"The fans overhyped the game to ludicrously high expectations!"
No, CDPR's marketing overhyped the game. They made promises that they failed to deliver on, probably because the game's design doc was not set in stone, or because they miscalculated the game's scale & budget (both of which are very common in the industry).
"The haters are distracting you with the bugs - the game is perfect if you look past them!"
No, the game's content is half-baked. Instead of crafting/finding tiered weapons and modifying them to suit our builds, we have a looter-shooter system where you're constantly throwing away your current weapons for new ones because they have slightly higher numbers. Instead of an expanding tree of new abilities, we have "+10% whatever".
And as a shooter, you have to deal with damage sponge enemies and nonsensical sightlines (that kill stealth).
The idea that they just released the game like this because some pimply teenagers were upset on the internet might be the most absurd notion I have ever heard.
@@Jalmerk well it fits some people's narative that CDPR are "the good guys" not just another corporation looking to take their money.
The worst one for me is the "high expectations" argument. Yeah, we had "ludicrously high expectations" for things such as a wanted system and police AI on par with Grand Theft Auto III lmao. Can't complain about people having "high expectations" if you fail to even deliver on basic ones.
“Quick hacking” was the most disappointing thing for me, I’m half way through the game and every fight encounter takes me way longer than if I would’ve went brawler wtf. No controlling enemies, stealthy cyber camo, mono wire hacking T_T. So many missed opportunities and false promises
@@sigelsegal2297 quick hacking is boring as hell but if you are halfway through the game and it's the focus of your build you should just be obliterating everyone.
You know you’ve stayed up late in America when the aussies start uploading
No cap bruh 😂😂
Fr 😂
Where's my late night crew?
@@jbzhummerh2gamer shit sucks cant get nothing done when u work night shifts
Holy crap 467 likes
Years later, this will still be the most accurate Video about Cyberpunk 2077
Well there exists another video uplaoded before that did the same. th-cam.com/video/bexA1Oolp0k/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ChrisDavis
Unless they add missing world elements lik activitues,gambling etc
@@mysticranger6894 The number of vids that are actualy point that Cyberpunk's problems are not just bugs are on the rise...I've seen another 2 besides your link and this one...
@@mysticranger6894 are you alright mate? the video you linked is about glitches, nobody cares about glitches, its the lies we want youtubers to expose mate
Man, wish I could play the game they showed off in the trailers :/
Oi Jeremy
@@whyamisobased3442 u wot?
same dude. same.
Same bro, I felt so bad at myself because I was disappointed
Was gonna call you a pillock but saw your name isn't clarkson 😂
What was promised: Deep and complex RPG with lots of features and choices that would impact the story
What was dilivered: Poor Man's GTA featuring Keanu Reeves.
"In night city things not always go what planned"
I feel bad for Keanu. Now he's got his name associated with this shit game. Probably didn't know himself how it would turn out.
Incredibly poor man's GTA. Akin to the True Crime games or Mafia.
@@MichelleHell I feel bad for Mike Pondsmith. He chose CDPR because he felt they were the only studio qualified to do Cyberpunk Justice by making the closet thing to a table top RPG possible. And they failed at that hard.
@@MichelleHell Keanu himself is a very shit actor tough, im sure he's use to being in shit shows like this.
I'm perplexed that there is no option to change the character's looks considering the entire world is so focused on body modification. For that matter, why can't I pay more and buy an "improved" implant that (for instance) combines the power and smart weapon controlling attributes into one piece? Or the ankles and tendons together (for more eddies) to combine the two types of jumps? That would make sense given the world. ETA Good thoughts on Keanu's appearance in the game. I hadn't thought of that, but they paid him big bucks, so naturally they wanted to utilize him as much as possible, and so rewrote the story. That explains so much.
And again, this is a basic feature, to change your appearance! Why isn't this in this game?
speaking of which, my furry discord group talk all the time about their disappointment in the absence of "exotics" in the game and animal themed options for customization
Lol we can't even change our hairstyles after character creation😂
They literally had to rewrite entire game to accommodate Keanu Reeves as the main plot of the game. This is a bad decisions by the writers. Much of the resources go to Johnny silverhand's character
@ThatMarchingBunny yes exactly! good job pointing that one out. very disappointing that there isn't even a one off npc with neko accessories. and i myself wouldn't even have mentioned animal based mods at all if it wasn't for the fact that full furries are a part of the lore for the tabletop rpg yet completely missing from the videogame.
Elements of the old story before the rewrite are arguably still present on release. A large part of the early story focuses on V's goal to become successful in Night City, and the game even indicates some level of choice in how V is going to get to the top. There's a pseudo choice in regard to Dex (whether or not V is going to cut him out of the deal) that seems like a branching point for the character (selfish/trustworthy). Instead, Dex betrays V immediately and the linear story with Johnny as the de facto protagonist begins from there.
The story was a really big missed opporunity for exploring the world they created, why aren't there joinable factions? Why is V always a mercenary regardless of lifepath and not a corporate agent, gang member, or nomad? Why doesn't the game allow you to play after the ending even though your actions didn't really transform the game world? It all boils down to the fact that they wrote the wrong story for the wrong game.
Agreed. The story was good but not a perfect fit for the setting. A simple 'rise to the top' story would've been great if there was a faction system to interact with. Plus, something that bothers me personally is this obesssion for making cutscenes where your character is weak. It's becoming more and more standard but I don't see the appeal; you just move slowly for a while and hear your char complain (regardless of the personality you're trying to roleplay, so forget about roleplaying a stoic character).
The lifepaths are completely irrelevant, sadly. I finished nomad recently and started a corpo one. Felt like the same. In the nomad one I spent like 10 minutes in the Badlands, was told that I had a clan but all I know about it is its name, and found myself in Night City rather quickly (after having met exactly 2 irrelevant characters in the Badlands, which didn't make me feel like my char was really a nomad). In the corpo one I was going for cold blooded killer bitch but I'm friends with Jackie for some unexplained reason so my 'lonely ninja who trusts no one' roleplay was out of the window instantly. Guessing the street kid path will be equally disappointing.
And, yeah, before release I was hyped thinking about which factions I would ally myself with on which playthroughs; but the factions really don't matter. You just kill whoever is at the marker. I remember walking into Wakako's office and overhearing a conversation where she assured someone that the Tyger Claws weren't responsible for something, she said "my boys? No, I assure you...". And I was like 'wait, what? I've been killing Tyger Claws left and right, why the hell is she giving me jobs and even helping me if she's their boss?'.
They promised NPCs reacting to what you're wearing. They should've included the factions in that, so if you make a black character you have a chance to join the Voodoo Boys, whereas with a non-black char it would be very difficult. Same with Tygers and asians and so on. Also, progressing with a faction could give V a chance to move up to an apartment that's on their territory and themed to the faction, and the same with cars, clothes, and weapons. There's just so much they could've done with the factions, but there isn't even a proper faction system in this game.
You know, now that you point it out, I can't help but think of something; had they decided Keanu was gonna be in the game right from the start, I can't help but wonder if they would've just scrapped V's story altogether and just had just play as Johnny the whole game. We would play as him and see him fight in the war, get his life ruined by Arasaka, form Samurai, become a Night City legend, and finally end with the nuke at the tower
I hate the lack of customization of your character. I can't believe that there is only one body shape and that there's no barber shops or tattoo shops in the world.
Ripperdocs do tattoos, you get 2 of them from quests
Oh boohoo
@@rustynail822 lmfao are you fucking serious with this?
I agree, but I'd go further. The game wasn't just sold on standard features like barber shops or tattoos, but that for street kids for example style means everything. Aside from all helmets looking like ass and there being no hide helmet option, the clothing just generally sucks and there's almost no customization options with those either. There's also no emphasis placed on looks in the game at all regarding quests or features either.
It's been advertised as meaningful, but is actually entirely meaningless.
Rusty Nail i know. it is sad that a game made in 2020. Witch fancied itself as the “next generation of immersive rpgs”. (Their words not mine). Lacks fundamental features that have existed since 2001.
Honestly therapeutic. I watched the intro of a video which said “imagine you’re playing the best game you’ve ever seen but bugs ruin it”. These reviews were making me feel insane, even without bugs this game is not what was promised.
Watching more of this is really starting to infuriate me. The game delivers only 30% of what was implied with marketing and the massive penitential that could have been. God damn 2020.
30% is a pretty optimistic estimation. If you remove the "it might change" stuff it delivers less than 10%.
khm..
1. There's no driving AI
2. No police driving AI
3. NPC AI is wrong on the fundamental level and would need to be completely redone, voice-lines included
4. "RPG" like character leveling is just stat stacking most of the time + giving you the option to approach missions differently (by being able to hack or be pacifist)
5. The world is EMPTY, unlike what they show in trailers
6. You can't do pretty much anything on your own terms, apart from main missions.
The game straight up fails to deliver the bare minimum of what I expected, and I didn't even expect Witcher 3 complexity.. Assassin's Creed Origins/Syndicate complexity would've been enough. And yet - while the game looks fancy and all, it's just that. A pretty looking loading screen to look at between story mission. I don't think CDPR realizes how much they fucked up. Even if they get rid of all bugs, it's still a shit game to play.
And I don't think they're going to pour more money into development, since they probably won't even cover the production expenses. Wouldn't be surprised if this will be the end of CDPR
Ultima 7 is 1.29 euros on GOG. It's the quintessential interactive RPG experience.
I actually liked my play through(I bought it without seeing much of the advertising and after all the reviews came out) but going back and seeing what was promised I am getting angrier and angrier realizing why the game could have been
@@blazbohinc4964 While they suffered a hard blow I highly doubt that this will be the end. They made several hundred million. They definitely don't have financial problems right now, the only problems they have are the lawsuits/legal problems and loss of reputation.
I won't lie the whole 'Silverhand is killing you' thing kind of killed my enthusiasm. It's not your story at that point. i would have preferred the rags to riches story. A story where V a nobody is hell-bent on carving their name into the heart of Night City. "This cities gonna know my name, if I have to burn it to the ground to do it." Something like that, not this weird Johnny Silverhand story.
I really hope there will be a mod to literally remove him from the game or at least the life or death part, that way you feel like you can just take your time rather than just rush a stale ending
That's not to mention that the entire plot doesn't make any sense technologically. Like, we're talking about a society that can create a digital copy of a person's consciousness and can even put that consciousness onto a chip that overwrites the DNA of other people and NOBODY thought, "hey, why don't we just start cloning bodies that these consciousnesses can be put in"?
@@JoshuaRFox that technology exists in cyberpunk lore already bro, they just havent used it, which is a fucking shame
That's exactly what i did and the ending i got, with silverhand's help even. He's literally the pathway to dying a legend in the end, and it was epic.
I liked Silverhand but the whole "You're dying and running out of time" hurt. I wanted to enjoy the open world and the quest at my own pace, not being constantly reminded you're going to die if you don't hurry up and find a cure.
I still remember people saying Cyberpunk was going to be the next gold standard in gaming.
Well it definetly set a standered dont be worse than this
An great example of unnecessarily high expectations.
@@juanburgos8176 cdpr promoted cyberpunk as that lmfao it’s literally on their website
I mean it's the first game I've ever heard of just getting delisted from the psn store
“Next generation of open world gaming”
CDPR went full EA with this release. Rip. Any future game they release now is going to be handled with major skepticism. Reputation in the gutter. Just another standard developer who downgrades and generates hype on empty promises.
It sucks, I heard Witcher 1 and 2 were janky as fuck with shaky coding too but CDPR didn't have as much on the line back then (if true lol). I'd like them to improve on this game and go again, the world is too cool to let go
@@kisa4748 Witcher 3 was so good though. They let themselves down more than anything. Not sure what the problem was (higher ups, designers/team leads, or a newer development team), but the end result still is a game far far worse than W3.
Don't forget that the Cyberpunk IP may devalue in the long run, I feel really sorry for Mike Pondsmith that his IP will be treated with such disdain for being a mediocre trend, because Cyberpunk 2077 did not live up to the premise of being an open-world game with a life-sim feel and with deep story writing of cyberpunk culture.
How’s the tabletop RPG? Any good?
CDPR are inexperienced amateurs and scammers. CDPR will go bankrupt soon anyways because almost everyone refunded Cyberjunk
My first playthrough I just kept having that, there's got to be more feeling. I was actually getting excited around 30 hours in thinking things were about to open up, but instead got a warning I was at the point of no return. An open world city that makes PS2 era GTA games seem like they were made by people from the future. An RPG with as much choice as a Call of Duty game. And I still have 182 hours of playtime. The year 2020 really is just that bad.
Same thing happened to me thought i was the only one who felt like this
@UFHoee I too was like "you have got to be kidding me, this is he end of the story? Things were JUST NOW getting slightly interesting". I would rather play Witcher 3 three times than play Cyberpunk once. A big let flwni n content quality and quantity. Was not expecting this from CDPR at all. I will be highly skeptical of their next project whenever that is gonna release.
Finally been looking for this kind of content. The game started strong until you start seeing through the smoke and mirrors. Nothing in this game matters. And its down right depressing. I hope more people see this video. I wasn't on the hype train, didn't watch the trailers, didn't track the news, didn't decided to play it until the week it was released. And I am so incredibly disappointed. The basics of RPGs are no where to be found, and the way they do it, especially at the start makes you think you're in the right game for all you could hope. It wasn't until I hit the romance options that I started to see through the cracks. The side jobs that never matter. No follow up, no affect. I can't even with this game. I was looking forward to replayability and now I can't bare to think of it.
Oh god, can you imagine trudging trough this trite, broken mess a second time just for a 30 minute prologue and a minute long naughty cutscene?
I’m literally in the same exact situation as you bro and it was still horrible my reaction was just WTF...it’s downright depressing. Have you checked out the life paths yet because they’re even worse, all of them are street kid basically. Corpo intro was only 10 minutes long and literally cut off abruptly it’s ridiculous it’s totally unfinished. On top of that there’s no good reason to customize your genitalia.
Sums up pretty much everything i felt
Kinda wished that instead of having a Johnny Silverhand tied story, they made Keanu a part of the upcoming DLC and then called it "Silverhand".
After 140+ hours in the game I can agree with this. The Johnny Silverhand arch would have made a badass DLC quest chain. But as the main overarching premise they kinda tied their own hands with it.
That would have been so much better. Looking back on the story, it definitely seems that CDPR morphed the game to fit Keanu in for his marketing value.
They should have done the 6 months with jackie as the main quest
This^!!!!
@@timcastelein6598 Couldn't agree more. I'd much prefer building rep and wealth with Jackie than the "I'm dying and Johnny's hijacking my game" plot. Jackie was a blast. He had more personality than any other npc I've met. His death left an emptiness that's never been filled.
I think one of the things that kill "open-world RPGs" is forcing a player to play down specific storylines that artificially introduce urgency. CP2077 killed the immersion or the open-world possibilities by making us have to deal with the relic slowly killing V. Though there is no clock ticking where your character will just die if you don't complete the main storyline fast enough, the urgency kills it in a player's mind. When Vik tells V, "you are dying and have a couple of weeks at most to live," that's not really true. You can ignore the main storyline long enough to go around town and clear out gigs, NCPD scanner hustles, smaller crimes in progress, and side quests before returning to it when you have maxed out your level and street cred. But at that point, a player is just going through the motions of leveling up V. Any personal participation in role-playing inevitably forces the player to a level of cognitive dissonance when they remember that their character is supposed to be dying relatively quickly. A true role player would logically ignore all the side stuff and just go through the main quest because that is the path the storyline sets them on, but your character would not be strong enough to deal with the challenges they will face.
For example, in my first playthrough, I progressed far enough into the main storyline where the parade occurs and there's a boss fight in there I was not able to complete because I could not damage the enemy at all, he was so above my character level. I had to revert to a save before I even activated the parade quest so I could go do more leveling up. This forced urgency killed my immersion in the same way the "rescue Shaun from The Institute" storyline killed the open-world aspect of Fallout 4 for me. I am 50 years old and have been playing CRPGs for more than half of my life now. I know what game designers can and cannot do with current technology. With unlimited time and resources, I am sure CDPR could have delivered much of what they marketed to us but the reality is the killer of hopes, dreams, and expectations. I enjoy the game for what it is but I am also disappointed at what could have been. I do not know if expansions or DLC can fix this in the way patches can fix bugs, but I hope that modders find a way to fill in the gaps.
Eh, what's the alternative. If you remove the urgency then the plot often feels like nothing is happening for long stretches of time. And the quests that do add urgency often feel like small pockets of intensity in an otherwise chill world. If you add some timers that reinforce urgency, it makes the game less fun.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to make RPGS with urgent stories, ask the player to partake in them and also enjoy the side content.
You know what, they should have gave actual timer which would get Game Over, because at least urgency mattered and people who managed to do all guests would gain some emotional pay off.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 They did that for Fallout 1. Most players didn't like it and there were even mods to remove it.
@Cryer24597 eh, at least I would be more immersion and it isn't my fault that writers did that (they gave you 2 weeks). At least such decision made plot connected to the gameplay, because right now narrative and gameplay are in dimensions apart from each other.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Sometimes, the cure is worse than the disease. If you want a decent long term story from any medium, there needs to be some urgency. But trying to tie it to gameplay might ruin the enjoyment people are having with it
I was kind of wondering why the Johhny Silverhand flashbacks showed a pretty identical Night City compared to the present. The level of tech seemed oddly the same. The older demo having Johnny die a year before makes much more sense now.
Deeply irritated me as well. 2023?!? Why not 2054, or anything beyond the time frame in which this game might even become fully fledged out? Oh well, guess the wisest course of action is to accept the loss and move on...
true. 50 years and barely anything changed
worst thing is that V says something like "The City feels different", in a weak attempt from the writters to override the fact that the City looks exactly the same xD
Doesn't Adam Smasher look EXACTLY the same in the flashback sequence as he does in the 2077 part of the game? Dude's a walking cyborg, surely you think they'd have come up with some improved gear in the 50+ years since the Arasaka Tower bombing.
@@gaiusjuliuspleaser He looks a bit more human in the flashback: th-cam.com/video/sp3xTVz4S8c/w-d-xo.html Although it might be his uniform.
When playing through The Witcher 3, doing side missions felt like a choice. Go to a message board, pick your quest, find the person, barter on payment, do the thing. I didn't feel like I had any choice in being a merc in Cyberpunk. Get too close to the wrong area and your phone starts ringing. "Hey, you happen to be near a thing that is SUPER important and I need you to do it right now KTHXBAI!" Feels more like being led around by the nose, some other quest trying to jerk you away from whatever you were actively doing at the time.
You can't even prioritize the jobs you take or whether you even bother with them or not based on what the reward is because you're never told what the payout is. What kind of mercenary takes jobs without negotiating payment first? Especially if it's for some bullshit nobody gang you have no affiliation with or reason to care about?
Whole premise of the game's story is very stupid. I could forgive the Witcher 3 but this thing in cyberpunk makes even less sense. You are constantly bombarded with messagges and options for side missions troughout the game like you are center of the universe. Plus, it makes absolutely zero sense for V to screw around with anything when his main mission is so much of a priority. He is literally dying with his health constantly deteriorating. It is ridiculuos for him to waste time on some unimportant side gig when he has so much to do pursuing the objective of saving his own life.
It is even worse when you consider that everything ends after the main mission. So you can do side stuff only before the last mission. There is no way V could have enough time to do it all. This pretty much ruins the story for me unless i ignore everything and focus on the main quests only which makes the game too short. And the whole intro is pretty rushed. You begin and it fastforwards to you being the most famous mercenary in the whole night city. It is not exactly believeable.
It should have been like this... First half of the game you need to build your reputation and then everything with silverhand takes place.
@@tomislavjakusmejarec163 lol so you must hate the skyrim story huh. Or any elder scrolls game at that. Why would you be messing around with the thieves guild and dark brotherhood when demons and dragons are invading. Smh. That’s literally almost every game that does that. This criticism is so stupid
@@thedungeoneer33 Well in every other game, you have option to play after the main quest. So technically each side quest is non specific in it's timeline. Even then, nothing is more pressing than your character dying. Other characters are reminding you constantly that you have little time. Makes sense to do a few gigs to earn money but still...This is not a serious criticism but it is worth mentioning.
It's a goddamn video game like any other, no need to have your brain switched on.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt this way. Feel like I’ve mostly been seeing outrage about the bugs/broken console versions and surprisingly praise for the game underneath. The illusion was strong, on all fronts.
The game underneath isn't a bad game at all. The side quests are the meat of the game for me and some of them are well written or at least very interesting (like Sinnerman). But, I didn't pay attention to the marketing so maybe that's why I'm having a better time than most. lol
@@jerrylou4267 I think the game that's there is fine, the writing and characters are well done. It's almost like the opening missions leave too good of a first impression, because the illusion of choice is there. I started thinking "I wonder how this would play out if I chose something else", because the Witcher 3 has that in spades, and then realizing there is no alternative path, to any degree besides the ending, left a bad taste in my mouth.
Edit: Also I found the gameplay to be passable and the systems/character progression to be underwhelming
I would prefer an ugly game that offers real freedom than a pretty game that lies about offering choice.
This ain’t even that pretty
@Cryer24597 Ave! True to New Vegas!
Skyrim, you say?
There are indie games that are ugly af but have so much choice it is staggering.
And this is why text-based RPGs are a thing.
They had the blueprint with all of the rpgs that came before.
They should've used Dragon Age Origins background and outcome system, Fallout New Vega's Convo system, Far cry's faction system
And Skyrim's world interaction(cooking, woodcutting, etc) system maybe even Divinty 2s
They didnt have to really reinvent the wheel or be that innovative just build on what had been established with their cyberpunk vision
@Jonathan Hemphill Tell me about it I'm baffled how they went from adapting Cyberpunk 2020 to a linear Keanu simulator. They honestly should have gotten all the RPG gameplay fleshed out before focusing on things like NPC cutscenes and pretty skyscrapers.
@@noonenowhere877 exactly this, seems like they only worked on the story and totally forgot they were making an open world. The idea they didn’t even have customization as simple as barber shops, tattoo shops, piecing shops??, or maybe even clothing stores speaks volumes.
I’ve done def work before and the ai is literally like a draft build, nOt even a draft just the god damn start of making the ai. I’m still wondering like when did you start building the ai, it feels like you can not started in the last six months. After all these years you had no time to make an ai that at least meets current standards? WHY DOES SKYRIM HAVE BETTER AI. A GAME THAT FAME OUT ON PS3.
THE WANTED SYSTEM TELLS ALL. THEY DIDJT EVEN PROGRAM POLICE TRANSPORSTATION. THEY COULDNT BECAUSE ALL THE CARS ARE JUST PROGRAMMED TO SPAWN AND FOLLOW A SIMPLE PATHFIND. THERES NO CODE FOR THOSE CWRS TO INTERACT WITH THE IDEA OF COPS SPEEDING DOWN THE STREET, WOULD JUST BREAK THE GWME EVEN MORE.
management really is messed up because all they wanted to do was suck off keanu.
They even had a game in their own rows and didn't used it (witcher 3).
Exactly. & the problem is that they marketed this game as broadly as possible, to fans of all of those games. I love DOS2 & I think that it brings a whole market of tabletop gamers too bc you can interact with every object in the world. If you see an apple, you can pick it up, cook it, eat it, use it, etc. Also, they should've copied DOS2's character customization, where u can either choose 1 of 4 pre-made char or make your own
Agreed with your statement. Especially Dragon Age origins and The Elder Scroll Skyrim, but I would also like to add on sleeping dogs and of course gta 5. Pay attention CD Projekt Red, and take action asap!
The biggest proplem I had with the game: I never felt like V, I felt like a stranger looking through her eyes, experiencing a story I was not fully controlling. Even Fallout 4 did the immersion + rpg part better. Which is hard to say.
yeah i feel like the story was never about V more like silverhand tbh
Because none of your decisions matter. That is why V is bland. Non lethal, for example, does not matter in the game. I wonder why it is even in it.
@@6.0bones Exactly. The story revolved a lot around silverhand and that was not a good decision in my opinion. Also the thought of having a stranger in my head overwriting my "consciousness" doesn't make a good base for roleplaying - at least for me. The stakes are waaay too high.
Yeah I'll never ever get this game or support this company ever again. This game looks like a joke. I had zero expectation for this game cause I knew that it wouldn't be this untouchable game that the trailers promised, I still expected quality from a $320 million dollar game from this company.
this games actually made me rethink my opinion on fallout 4 and now i realize fallout 4 really was not that bad in terms of gameplay and role playing elements compared to cyberpunk 😂
Yeah, honestly, the fact that Cyberpunk has even less choices and consequences than Fallout 4, brings to light how lacking its RPG systems actually are. Yeah your dialog was really limited in fallout 4, and it was really difficult to play an evil character, mainly because the narrative more-or-less forced you into being a good character most of the time. Still, the RPG systems, along with the special attributes and the perks under each attribute, allowed you to experiment with a plethora of genuinely varying playstyles. It actually made Fallout 4 worth playing over and over again.
I have almost *800 hours* in Fallout 4, and almost *300 hours* in The Witcher 3. I just can't see myself ever getting close to that much time in Cyberpunk, because after about your first 30-50 hours in Cyberpunk you've seen and done 90% of the meaningful content. It's really a testament to Fallout's core gameplay-loop, which is so *strong* and really engaging for endless hours of time. I come back to Fallout and Skyrim from time to time and still find things that I've never seen or done before.
Even just basic exploration isn't strong, or even well incentivized and rewarded in Cyberpunk; there just isn't much to see or do that's truly unique and interesting outside of quests. The Fallout and Elder Scrolls games, and hell, even The Witcher 3, had way better incentive to actually explore the world and find interesting things. Because those games constantly rewarded consistent exploration. Those games also just have way stronger core RPG elements all-around.
Fallout 4's Far Harbor DLC is a fantastical example of Fallout 4 having way more meaningful choices and consequences than anything in Cyberpunk. I mean, there are *so many* different possible variations on the three main endings of that one DLC. It's really nuanced and well put together, and more of what we'd liked to have seen in the main story of Fallout 4. It's also more of what we'd like to have seen in Cyberpunk, but was sorely lacking.
@2B Or not 2B Yeah, that's fair, I can understand that. It's definitely no where near as strong as the exploration in Fallout or Skyrim.
@@ishid_anfarded_king If CP77 isn’t an RPG then neither is F4, but F4 is definitely more linear than CP77 not matter how much better it does X minor RPG mechanic better. Just keep that in mind. The DLCs are the only thing good about the action adventure that is F4
@@mycelia_ow GTA V is a better rpg than cyberpunk.🤣
@@mycelia_ow there is no if. CP2077 simply is no rpg. It is an action adventure
@Lady Fervor and how many hours you wasted insulting people on TH-cam?
There's a theory that there was no Keanu and Johnny in the story in 2018 and they had to rewrite the whole game, and I kinda believe it
All the production went into Keanu Reeves and night city aesthetic
And buying the marketing.
I also think making the engine took up years of dev time. Remember this thing still uses the same basic tools the witcher 3 did. Just "upgraded" whatever this means.
This is more interesting than just pointing out embarrassing bugs and cuts more to the deeper issues with cyberjunk
yeah even without the bugs its a solid 7/10, disappointing. tbh, when they arent game breaking, the bugs can make it more fun
A lot people can’t play the game long enough to see the issues, because of bugs and crashes.
@Armed Disks i’m saying without baby bugs it’s barley average
Imho cyberpunk doesnt feel close to an rpg, it's more akin to farcry
all the effort kinda put into missions and next gen lighting, everything else sucks all the dicks in Bismarck
@@SobeCrunkMonster agreed
Or assassins creed
Cyberpunk 2077 was originally called Rage 2.
Kind of makes me realize I've never really played an open world RPG. Skyrim honestly doesn't count. Oblivion was 1000x more an RPG than Skyrim, you actually had stat builds at least. Level up your character and a skill for perks? That's a sort of intuitive action game, but it's no RPG. Do Open World RPG's actually exist? Truly? Maybe not, we've all just lied to ourselves for what we wish was but actually has never been lol
Exec" = "There isn't enough Keanu"
Devs - We could do more with him, but we would need to seriously change the game for the worse.
Exec - "DO IT"
Exactly.
Thing is the execs are the devs in this case, right? CDPR is its own boss, unlike other studios who work underneath publishers.
@@atomic_wait well yes and no. CD Projekt Red is a part of bigger company called CD Projekt, there was also CDP that was supposed to focus only on publishing games on eastern Europe markets but it fell into bankrupcy few years back. What's more confusing stocks you can buy on polish stock market are belonging to CD Projekt (not Red) but they decided to use CDPR's name because of pr that it gives them. I can bet execs never even been into developers studio, just gave orders from headquarters and couldn't care less about how games actually are made. I know, confusing as fu*ck but that's typicall polish way of doing buisness.
As I,too, have discovered through playing, the game's issues, besides the bugs/glitches, are organic in nature. Meaning that the game was wrongly designed from the get go. In order for a game to be immersive, the world needs to be alive, active and responsive to the players actions. Here, this was not the case; for all the aesthetically excellent environments, the world was static, boring and lifeless and the NPCs dumber than dumb. Besides the scripted missions, nothing that I did made any difference in the world. I couldn't even sit on a chair if it wasn't in the script ffs!!! And certainly our choices mattered little to nothing..Add to that the extremely misleading promotional campaign, we are now experiencing the biggest gaming flop of the decade...
One of the by far dumbest things I've seen was in AdumPlazethrough's episodes of him going through the game. If a civilian is in a car that is about to blow up, they will leave the car and stand beside it until they explode and the civilian dies. Like, the civilians are that level of lifeless, the NPCs and cop system are what personally drain my enthusiasm the most. That and my lack of an ability to actually do anything on my own aka outside of quests.
The game feels dead . I’m playing Yakuza 7 right now and how much content it offers compared to Cyberpunk is just absurd . Proves that Marketing is everything and can even change perception that a game is good . It’s mediocre at best .
@@controversialgaming1364 Happy New Year!! Yeah Cyberpunk besides the scripted missions, offers absolutely nothing else to do...The Yakuza series is a favorite of mine as well, because it offers a ton of fun things to do, plus great stories, characters and atmosphere. No comparison whatsoever with Cyberpunk.
Ultima 7 is 1.29 euros on GOG. It's the quintessential interactive RPG experience.
I have to disagree. To me the Keanu Reeves theory perfectly makes sense: the whole game feels as if there was an almost full stop during development and then a turn into a completely different direction! Every corner of the game shadows that there was once a vision but they had to cut it off! Most visible it gets in form of the shards and non accessible buildings that indicate a vast lore but they were pushed to most basic solution to implement it in the world - which is a bland text message for the player to read. The buildings feel like there was the idea at some point but then they had to scrap it and instead of doors had to replace them with walls and vending machines etc... The list goes on and on and even expands into the main story line - let alone the shadow of the RPG it was aiming for and then completely got scrapped from the game.... To me this is the worst scam in gaming history!
EDIT: the strongest hint for a directional change is that all the textures and lore obviously where there! The game is pretty - if you have the hardware to run it! The lore is there - but implemented overhastily, most basic and cheap just in the way you would expect if somebody runs out of time...
this is the "real review" people should be watching, bugs? who cares they can be fixed, I care about the false advertising that just happen.
Unmask cdpr because everyone wanted to see thier face
indeed, im reminded of what happened with no man's sky and fallout 76.
@@johnlark2637 if rockstar reveals gta 6 before cdpr fix cyberpunk, I guarantee you that cdpr is going to decline.
all the bugs and performance issues were such a blessing for CDPR. they distracted people's attention from the real issues
Let's be honest, We won't see a complete fix until mid to late 2021.
I knew we weren’t getting the game we were promised but I didn’t fully realize just exactly how much we got cheated out of until this video was uploaded you guys make excellent content, but this video almost makes me not want to play anymore but that is in no way your guys fault that’s on CDPR for over promising and under delivering.
I was kinda in the boat like despite all the bugs and cut content at least the story is keeping me going and I'm enjoying my build. However this video just made me feel such a profound sense of loss, like now I don't even think they'll be able to get it to be what it should of been.
Its hilarious how many corporate bootlicking CDPR fanboys there are defending this rushed shit. Its almost as if their parents bought the game.
@@TropicalEnterpriseLLC it's not a bad game at all objectively it's just not exactly what they said it would be, very linear in the story aspect but its still a blast to ay the game.
I can acknowledged that a second and third playthrough will most likely not be a thing dor most people until dlc hits
It's not exaxtly what we where promised is a understatement. I didn't buy it as I've been trashing it from announcement date as I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt it was just gonna be lesser of a dumpster fire fallout 76. And this is now becoming the scary normal for game designers/publishers
(let's put together some 4k 200 fps videos on our +10,000 gaming pc and then stretch the truth about game play and how in depth it is then we all get rich and laugh in the faces of overhyped fans)
@@Lamesauce85 Couldn't agree more. And for people who don't have time to play a lot of games, like me, I'd been looking forward to this game alone for years. Profound sense of loss is the perfect way to put it. Mourning what could've and should've been.
Did you know in the original script, Johnny Silverhand dies of old age in 2076. He was originally relegated to a side quest where the chip worked as intended where the player slots the chip in to talk to..... David Bowie. Yes, that Bowie. Mike Pondsmith originally wanted Bowie because he created Johnny based off of Bowie. David Bowie died a few years ago, so they would have used his likeness but they must have changed their mind and when they got Keanu Reeves, they completely scrapped that story.
That sounds neat, do you have a source for that?
@@ThefinalLPer Yeah, the Keanu stories are a really interesting thought. I wanna know where they are actually coming from...
@@ThefinalLPer i think it is from cyberpunk 2020 (table game)
I didnt understand why that game rubbed me the wrong way even though I enjoyed it until this articulated it, then I understood
@UC6gDHCZgq7F4I3_JbmsJnHQ It feels like there isn't a single developer that wont let us down at this point. Blizzard, ubisoft, Bethesda (after 76 I'm scared for the next elder scrolls) aside from doom eternal, I cant name the last triple a game I liked that wasnt on the 360
@@SirTayluh lol what?? Then what are your standards for a good game? There have been plenty of amazing games since the 360. Breath of the wild? The Witcher 3? Spider-Man? God of war? MGS5? Monster Hunter world? You liked none of those games??
@@snarf2400 I play xbox/pc. Couldn't play spider man, couldn't play breath of the wild. Witcher was a 360 game, though I never played it
Those were just games off the top of my head and the Witcher 3 is not a 360 game
@@snarf2400 My point with that was, I'm speaking of games I've played and had access to, and I wouldnt know, I didnt play it.
The entire game should've been your time with Jackie and then had the Arasaka Heist as the final mission. With it playing out basically the same.
Silverhand should've been more of a background character. A "goal" or even a mentor for V and Jackie to strive for or emulate. With Johnny being captured by Arasaka right at the end. You go into the Heist to try and free him. Only to find out he was soulkilled and put on the biochip. Then have the rest play out as we saw. Saburu murdered. You blamed for it. Jackie dies and gives you the chip to take care of. Game ends with you waking up in a landfill and Johnny standing over you with his "wake up Samurai, we got a city to burn" line.
Sets up DLC with digital Johnny and Alt and basically the storyline of the main game except Johnny is dying and not you. With us rushing to save our idol or betraying him. But we still get our open-world merc RPG.
that would be just so much better
Sounds like a better game than Cyberfraud 2077. Can we get that game? Sounds fucking awesome.
killing jackie that early on just is just sad, i know in those cyberpunk dystopias you don't get happy things to happen but fuck off
@@TheXVortexz the problem for me is that no one replaces him. I liked his death because it was a surprise so it hit me, but afterwards you just feel lonely roaming around.
Its again one of these moments where a single person seems to have a better idea than the million dollar company with 'professionals' had...
I too feel the rags to riches story would've been so much cooler and more fitting to a superficial dystopian setting and, as you said, giving the main story kind of an open end, that allows for a nice DLC would be such a good idea...
But now we have this and nobody is really happy with the result... welp
This sums up my frustrations with this game. I was expecting a vast open-world RPG, what I got was a linear looter shooter.
I might be enjoying what it us vs what I wish it was, but this isn't a game I plan to touch again after beating the main story. There's no point, there's nothing to do.
Speaking of linear looter shooter, this looks like a Rage 2 variation to me, it's dull as shit. Random pop-up numbers like in The Division, bleh. Brick like driving, worse than original Watch Dogs. This game took the worst aspects of a large sum of games and turned it up to eleven. Not even a decent minimap UI, that piece of shit stays zoomed in even while going 200 mph in the city.
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines did the whole “Different Origins, Dialogue Options, & Player Experiences” thing considerably better than this game and it came out 17 years ago. That game, a much better one than this one, also destroyed the studio that made it.
Whatever the Hell this unfinished game is, it’s severely damaged the Cyberpunk brand (which is an AMAZING pen & paper RPG system).
Cyberpunk 2077 isn’t really an RPG, fails to deliver basics (that games almost 2 decades old have done), and is unplayable on half the platforms it was released on (due to TRC/TCR violating bugs). How did this get the green-light?!
fr bloodlines makes cdpr games look mediocre in terms of role playing. bloodlines is the only rpg i played where i felt i was truly role playing .
@@lonelystoner8128 You also play very different games with awesome dialogue options and alternate solution paths that were based entirely on your vampire clan and skill ranks.
The Malchavian had that extra special dialogue that actually spoiled all of the surprises too (the split personality girl, the location of the heirloom in the haunted hotel, etc.). I loved that.
What's more interesting was that Vampire The Masquerade had a linear story, yet it still offered more choice than Cyberpunk.
The larger the game, the harder it is to add all the things you list
VTMB is a small game.
Cyberpunk 2077 was only in actual development for 4 years. For that time, it's pretty impressive. But they should've taken another couple of years to flesh it all out, add more content.
The Johnny Silverhand narrative was amazing, but felt forced. It would've been so much better if it was an optional plot point or optional main quest direction even.
@@nuclearlefthook5008 i guess it just goes to show that it’s all about quality over quantity.
Man, this is so accurate it hurts... This game could've, SHOULD'VE been so much more.
What’s ur pfp yo
It’s also a shame that they have many different food stalls in the NC but you can’t really hang out with your friends and have a proper meal. What’s the point of having multiple foods anyway, it doesn’t give you a immersion feel but rather cumbersome to search for the food to eat when needed
Almost everything they promised... Was lacking Relationships and companions, Back story and In game Choices, even building your character if you wanna be able to do anything right you gotta put points into Technical
It's like they forgot that they were supposed to be making an RPG.
They changed the description of the game, it doesn't even include the word RPG in it anymore.
@@urdimsum7961 that's only on Twitter. They still call it an RPG on their Facebook page and elsewhere
There is a massive backstory to this game you just need to look
They advertised choice like Detroit: Become Human, but instead they did Borderlands 2 with the illusion of choice lol ALL PRAISE HANDSOME JACK! A great video game Villain.
*DBH has the best choices and consequences.*
@@vit968 yeah I agree. I need to really do a second playthrough. Somehow without even trying too hard I got the good ending (or ifirc the best ending out of all). So I would like to see how I can get the bad ending. There's just far too many choices in Detroit.
THIS is the video we needed. The investors have already started their motions to sue, now let's get the consumer class action lawsuit going.
Here’s what I wanted out of this game. The subway system, customizing the apartments. Drinking eating animations. Getting cyber ware implemented into ur body animation. Just like when you sit in the chair and victor adds the stuff to ur hand and eye. A garage with all ur cars. Way more explorable buildings. I haven’t come across barely Any explorable buildings.
You know what I wanted? I wanted to get in vs apartment take a shower go to bed wake up go out and be immersed like I was in rdr2 but even more so. I was ready to hit the gym mess with people insult them compliment them push them. Steal from vendors get in street fights go to the gun range go to the bar get wasted and cause trouble maybe pick up a hooker take her back home and have fun and the kill her take the money back go to the stores buy things trash the place and run out while the cops come. Mess with the cops and have them arrest me and take me to jail to wait or try to escape. Walk into the alleyways at night with the bums and pick on them take drugs even and act like one of them watching the vast city move on. Take a subway to a unknown area of the city with a shady environment gangs and shady people and try to be able to survive it. Play pool play poker play darts go to a barber a tattoo artist anything. I literally expected all this here.
@@darkheathen6765 good joke
@Censor Me yeah exactly the fans said that look don't get me wrong almost all problems are with the devs but with the hype I'd say 40% certain people that overhyped 60% devs
Lol, honestly I knew it was bulshit when I heard people saying* I'm so stoked a majority of vertical buildings will be explorable on many many levels how do Cdpr do it* haha, so glad I didn't buy this festering pile of shit
Its disgusting if you think about it, they literally bent down the fanboys and forced them on all fours in order for them to fet ready to fuck them up the arse while shouting we robbed ya! We robbed ya!
Some time between April and May, the official Cyberpunk twitter changed their bio description of the game from role playing to action adventure. Trying to cover their asses. They need to be sued.
They got sued by their investors.
@@krxzyD well, they were lied to so CDPR could make their game... too bad they made all that money back by lying to customers too.
The investors only sue about being lied about the basic consoles... no one is suing them about the other stuff..
I wish the Johnny Silverhand quest line had been just an elaborate side quest, similar to Bloody Baron in W3. There’s a place for him in this game, but not as the central driving force of the story.
Yes.
A major sidequest made as a "Thank You" to Keanu Reeves for his involvement in promoting the game.
What I would've done is basically shortening the original main quest, making it more wholesome, and giving it a sweeter ending.
You're hired to steal a biochip from an Arasaka convoy.
You return to the client and access the biochip's contents.
Turns out the biochip is an engram of Johnny Silverhand. He isn't a massive anarchist anti-corpo terrorist who set off a nuke. But a lonely rockerboy who misses his friends after being trapped for 50 years. He also isn't a parasitic program slowly killing you, but still inhabits your body for a bit and communicates with you via holo-link and with others by having them physically jack into your system.
The objectives of this major sidequest are to get Johnny up to speed on the current events of Night City, visit his old friends and bandmates and have heart to hearts with them, and generally just have fun with him by going out and doing activities in Night City before his engram expires.
He'll sometimes have comments to say during other quests, usually at the start and end. And his major sidequest will have an actual timer. 2 in-game weeks before he "dies" again.
It's not a "Highly Flawed RPG"...
It's just straight up NOT an RPG.
GTA San Andreas is more of an RPG than Cyberpunk, let that sink in
Well, they did change the description of their Twitter account from "RPG game" to "action-adventure game"
"Fallout 4 has more consequential choices."
Ouch.
Its true actually compared to this lmao
right in the pains :D
@Ring-a-ding-ding baby uhh I don’t think it was that bad
@@basedshaman6183 The guy he was replying to said “Main story of fallout 4 was bad tho.”
dam i rather play no mans sky....
Sadly I agree with everything. They forced the first person because of "immersion" But I dont see any other immersion in the game...no drink-loot-grab-eat animation , run animation (when u watch your shadow) is a crap... Npc Ai and behaivor is horrible the whole city is a neon shell nothing more.. I not feel this game or the city has any soul...
"immersion" was code for, "we couldn't toggle between 1st and 3rd person without glitching out our engine." My favorite is the line about, "we noticed that most people didn't play all the content in Witcher 3 so we decided to make Cyberpunk easier to finish," which really meant, "We wasted too much time rewriting the game constantly, so we cut out 2/3 of the content."
I’ve always felt the argument about 1st person being more immersive is bs. Witcher 3, you feel completely immersed as Geralt in 3rd person. For me, 1st person feels like walking around as a camera.
@@phillybobbby Yeah, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but now I'm of a mind that most every explanation of a controversial decision was always BS.
I prefer first person in rpg's especially ones with shooting, but it's a shame people don't get to choose
@@accountname8330 I like being able to toggle back and forth, since half the fun of an RPG is seeing your avatar in cool gear. Now I can understand there being technical reasons that such an option is impractical to implement due to the engine, but it's still nice to have.
The looter shooter aspect drags down a lot of the actual game as an RPG to me. I don't think there should have been nearly as much focus on looting stuff rather than buying and using connections from quests to obtain gear. It just doesn't feel right to constantly swap clothing just because of armor ratings.
Bullet proof booty shorts
I think they did it the looter shooter way because they planned Cyberpunk Online. They wanted to make that GTA online money.
Modern RPGs with real time gameplay should do away with arbitrarily low damage for weapons, damage sponge enemies and RNG loot based equipment and progression.
Firearms should do damage based on their ammo type, with some increase/decrease based on barrel length. While melee weapons would have 75% of their damage be fixed values.
To balance this, Stats would determine _how well your character handles their weapon of choice._
To not make the game a brutal slog at the start, the game will force you to make a decent build before starting the game. By either having you pick from one of several different premade builds, or have you spend all of the allotted Stat Points before continuing.
Their marketing team doing a really good job in the past 8 years :D
true dat, the marketing team should give up the goober science of marketing and learn2code instead
Bizarrely Marketing seemed to have a better idea about what kind of game we wanted than the Management.
After this PR disaster I'm sure a few of them lost their jobs
@@noonenowhere877 truth!
@@noonenowhere877 not bizarre at all, it's easier to promise people the sun and the stars than to actually give them the sun and the stars
The horses in RDR2 have probably more scripting than the entirety of Cyberpunk 2077.
You're not wrong
It's alright girl 👌😹
*The horse's balls alone
You are right with no joke, horses in rdr2 react to the temperature, their stats change with his cores and your saddle,
You picked up on the misleading advertising really well, I thought I'd misinterpreted things, but after reading around, tons of features have been removed. Wall climbing for Mantis Blades, ripping open doors/ripping off turrets with Gorilla Arms (which is now just tied to Body for some reason), hacking with the Monowire, reducing 3 of the 4 arms cyberware to special melees.
An early build for the game had drones available for Techies, but they removed it after deciding the quick hack capabilities basically made drones redundant, but drones wouldn't have been solely about hacking or disrupting enemies, could've been like Zane's SNTNL in BL3, giving it commands and unique equipment/attacks, like a pet in fantasy RPG. Vehicle customisation was also removed for some reason? Despite them emphasising it in trailers. There's more, but these gnaw at me the most.
And the lack of reactivity and choice is such a shame, I love Fallout: New Vegas, and after playing the Far Cry games I've always hoped that someday we'd get a game with a rich narrative and deep rpg mechanics, but with pretty modern visuals and slick action/stealth gameplay, and from the advertising it appeared as if that's what this game was going to deliver, and the worst part is... sometimes it does, and it makes it sooo much more disappointing. I have enjoyed the game and I'm looking forward to another playthrough and seeing what's to come DLC-wise. But CDPR does deserve criticism for this botched launch.
They might as well have just made a movie out of it with their animated trailer skills. This game seemed like it was made for me, a very ghost in the shell type person. Even though I enjoyed the story and music, I'm still quite let down considering how many countless times I watched the demos and trailers.
They really blew the marketing for this one.
Flashy world building (lore) aspects were hyped up as if they were a major part of the gameplay, while ultimately for me the best parts of the game are the more down to earth and intimate moments with major characters, plus some life/death and humanity related themes that were never if not rarely mentioned in the marketing.
And it seems to me that they morphed the game to fit Keanu Reeves at some point, for the
purpose of marketing. What a lesson on how not to market a game.
You know whats better to not marketing a game ?
Nevee hire someone popular
I read the 250 page book that accompanied this game, I read up on the lore, gangs, history - everything. I own a base PS4 so I can’t even play the game.
It makes me feel bad that I agree with this so much... I liked the game but man... Eyes opened
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Same... I tried so hard to defend it at first, but now after the main story elements of the early game I'm really seeing just how empty and lackluster it is.
@GreenTea I thought it'd be janky but at least a good RPG, I never could have predicted it would be so empty and stretched thin after ostensibly being planned 8 years ago.
SPOILER:
I think what bothers me the most is the “point of no return” and all of the endings. There’s no happy/ideal ending since your character is going to die anyways. Like how am I supposed to care that my character escaped night City with Panam if I know he’s going to die 6 months down the line. It had never occurred to me that they rewrote the story line to integrate Keanu Reeves.. I wonder what kind of game we would’ve had without him.
I agree with the criticism in this video, but find a lot of people feeling the way you do, and disagree with them... I'm biased though, I love a good tragedy.
It's not an RPG, but it's a brilliant tragedy with a few different tragic options up for pick. I like the way they did it. You can "save your life" in the form of an engram uploaded to a server waiting for a body that can host your horribly Relic warped psyche, you can choose 6 more months with family and loved ones, you can fulfill your promise to Jacky before he died and become that legend you saught out to become, or you can wipe out the corpos and give Johnny a second lease on life, but you can't do them all.
It was never meant to be a happy ending, it was meant to be an ending that REALLY tested what you actually valued the most, to make a forced compromised decision that is sad because no choice is ideal, but each one fulfills some principle that you can choose to prioritize above all others. Tragedy rarely gives you the option to pick which tragedy you want without stupid alternatives that would have spared them, or crazy amounts of Deus Ex Machina, but this one actually fulfilled that very hard to locate promise, a true tragic ending where Deus Ex Machina wasn't needed, and you could have your pick of one of many different types of tragic ends.
Now... If you hate tragedy and live for happy endings, I agree, this ending totally sucks... But fuck... Even if they had executed this game properly, ANYONE who came into this universe expecting it to have a happy ending is naive. Even if they had delivered as promised this was always an amoral fucked up tragic universe, and the only ending that would ever have been appropriate is an equally tragic ending.
IF you had a choice where you lived on, the only way I could possibly see it being reasonable and within the scope of the tragic nature of the game is if it took you calling in all the debts from all your loved ones, all your family, all the gangs, the Corpos, and everything else, and you lived, but at the loss of all those you cared for, Johnny, selling out to the Corpos, the Aldecaldos dying, rogue being slaughtered, and the Afterlife falling... Yeah that would have been a good ending, you choosing life and forsaking all your promises and values in exchange for it. But any other ending kind of flies in the face of the nature of the game, there should be no "happy/ideal" ending... But I can agree with one thing, they absolutely could have made a horrible, extremely tragic, un-ideal ending in which you lived in exchange for everything else you built.
Everyone dies, sometimes life throws a curve ball at you. At the end of every game, your character “dies” in the sense that you can’t play as them anymore past that point. Besides it’s a fiction, if you don’t like the endings the devs chose, then make up a new one.
A good one
Im wondering how theyre planning to implement dlc with these death barriers in mind.
@@allisoncornell4378 They’ll probably create a new character for you to play like in GTA online
It wouldn't be 2020 if a beloved studio didn't fall from grace this hard. They probably pulled the biggest scam of 2020
@UFHoee Star citizen unlike cyberpunk is still getting additional content. Just not getting released anytime soon because of the massive scale of it all. By the time they release it, even mediocre gaming rigs will be able to play it fully at 60 fps. Maybe they planned it like that from the start. I don't care if it takes another 10 years for them to finish as long as there is content, quality and atmosphere, all of which are lacking in cyberpunk.
Biggest scam ever right up there with Anthem.
This is legitimately the best review of this game I have seen.
I hope CDPR actually see this video. I doubt they will implement it into the game though
Looking at your profile pic, makes me wonder, the promotional videos CDPR released made cyberpunk 2077 seem like the new Deus Ex, the one that came out 20 years ago. It's not even close.
CDPR touted this as the most believable city in an open world game to date. In reality, 2001's GTA 3 had more complex, realistic open world systems. The AI is laughable. They really should have made this a linear experience.
worst thing is, it is a linear experience. They kinda chose the bad aspects of both worlds (sandbox and linear) instead of the good ones.
@Withnail this game makes me want to go back to RDR2, and I didn't even like that game overall. Found it very boring after a while. But there's no denying the AI and immersion is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Cyberpunk.
Gotta love how both of you talk about RDR2 as if it was another game in the industry, lol. It was made by GTA III developers, and it's years and years ahead of not only Cyberpunk, every AC game also.
@Cryer24597 I mean, I have way more immersion playing GTA Vice City than Cyberpunk, and that's a game from 2002.
@Cryer24597 Yeah, but what I mean is that it feels far more polished and believable for a 2002 game, than Cyberpunk is for an 1 month AAA release, also its soundtrack and atmosphere are unbeatable to this day.
Future release: "Our world, your story"
Me: "Sure it is"
DUDE! I was worried about this before the game even released, I thought I was just being over critical though, so I kind of let it slide. I was telling all my friends before release that I was really worried that they wouldn't show us at least 30mins of uncut gameplay. Nobody had any first hand evidence of what they were paying for with their $60. I'm working through the return process rn. I love CDPR, huge fanboy, but sadly, let's be honest, we were lied to.
One thing that really annoyed me about the game is how many of the quest lines feel...unfinished.
Cyberpsycho sightings. 17 minibosses scattered throughout the city, and Regina wants you to try and take them alive. Why? This is something the game has been teasing since 2013. So you play the game, get stronger, level up your character, and one by one you take them all down. You go back to Regina and...Nothing. You get paid and that’s it. I thought I was going to unearth some great secret about why the cyberware was sending people crazy. I thought maybe equipping too much cyberware would make me crazy and this would be a solution to that. But it just...ended.
The Peralez’. Call you up to dig up information on their rival’s death. The more you work with them, the more you realise their brains are being altered by some powerful, outside entity. You speculate about what it is, you decide whether or not to let them know whats wrong, and then...nothing. He pays you, leaves, and then they both block you. You get one call in the credits about a further quest you never get to do.
Lizzy Wizzy. She’s linked to the Soulkiller questline, they want to make a copy of her while she’s still alive without her consent. You later learn that’s because she’s going a little crazy, possibly cyberpsycho, and she outright kills her own manager. You dispose of the body, she pays you, tells you to keep an eye out for her new Braindance, and...nothing. That’s where that questline ends.
The game was absolutely brilliant to play, but it just FEELS unfinished.
I'm damn sure game was in a development hell like Andromeda because of horrible management, we know nothing, but eventually someone will reveal. Doesn't matter how massive an AAA game can be, it can have a max development time of 4-5 yrs. CD projekt isn't a small company, the red studio alone has over 1000 devs
yeah i think side quests should have been connected to story with a real meaning and gigs shouldve been side quests, this way the rpg couldve been done easier and after on maybe they could fix open world mess creating smarter a.i better police some minigames and interactive stuff the game would be saved but doubt cdpr will do this
same, I did the quest I been waiting other quest from them while do other mission but nothing.
Yea thats how I felt, doing the sidequests felt fascinating once finished you go like wtf? The end?
@@erenanarchy9538 No, many side quests have no relation to the main campaign so but they’re substantial within their own right, for instance, River’s story arc. Gigs are essentially fetch quests which you can grind through and are entirely optional. I chose NOT to do them and competed only the main campaign and all side missions. I feel like the Regina’s cyber psycho quest and the poster glitch quests do not belong in the side missions as they’re structured more like fetch quests. I did not do them either.
The main character of this game isn’t V, and that’s sad
Then who is it?😅
@That's On Point! Keanu introduction honestly ruined this game imo I wish they stayed with the original plot instead of the Arkham knight batman/joker plot
The protagonist of the MQ doesn't always have to be the player character. Oblivion made Martin the protagonist, but it worked because of the PC's role in the story. Cyberpunk did it in a way that took away all player agency for a majority of the game. The story has no replayability and that's a death knell for an RPG.
@@kazohinia5751 well, it’s not an RPG my friend. It’s an open world action adventure game with some RPG elements.
@@sostrongineedmoreofyourmon974 and that's why a lot of folks aren't enjoying the game
CDPR Before release: Cyberpunk is a lush, deep, next generation RPG :3
CDPR after release: It's an action game ok! You expected too much!
the only way to play the game is judge dredd style, where you kill every gang member and enemy
you can get away with
Man of Culture
That's because in this game, you are... *THE LAW!!*
I really enjoy the slaughtering.
And as people are finding out now, after killing them, do not loot them for anything you don't absolutely need because the save file size is capped so every item, crafting component, etc, is literally draining the life from your save until you hit the data cap and it gets corrupted... It's actually amazing they wanted to release this trash in April.
@@mismismism yeah,the bug is fkn game breaking. Its kinda miserable to play