Should i make some Pure Fiction showcase with break team too? P/S: I forgot to change Welt Eidolon💀(Still keep the same setup from that Gigachad Team Showcase). Sorry for this mistake, i will be more careful next time and do double check on every character before recording.
@@janbertguerrero6988 i think it still works with E0 Welt, but there is no point to try this team without Ruan Mei. Because i have tried to play break team without Ruan Mei and only a few comp that worked. I tried Welt + HMC + 2 other Imaginary chars and it took me 5 cycles to clear the same stage so i think it's just a waste of time without Ruan Mei.
-"meme build" -consistent 3 cycle clear -consistent perma stunlock to the point that you may as well run no sustain my man thats not a meme build thats just meta
For people who doesn’t know Imaginary break imprisonment is calculated by 30% x (1 + break eff) Welt have 295% break eff, that make his delay equal to 118,5% + 30% from trailblazer on top of spd down 🤣 Tldr: an unit with blazing spd of 180spd after break will have a spd around 50 :)))
I should really build the E4 Welt the game has so kindly gifted me over the last year. He has been "that" general 5* for me and refuses to leave me in peace.
You should... With the mechanic of Super Break implemented, Welt can abuse it by giving tons of BE, which in return makes the imprisonment longer. I did tried it before, but because my relic stats aren't stellar, it's not a perfect delay😅
Super Break Trailblazer is super nice. I like that HSR has at least two builds for the main character that have use cases. I wonder if there will eventually be some kind of mechanic to explicitly buff "bounce" attacks like the ones Harmony Trailblazer and Welt have - there's at least one other bounce attacker (Sampo) on the top of my head that could make use of any support enhancement to that mechanic.
This has me thinking... Welt is tehnically a viable sustain instead of Gallagher in HyperBreak comps. He can prolong the BreakDPS's "Damage Time" by keeping the enemy back. Finally! Grandpa gets to shine!
I have a couple of questions. I hope you could answer these. 1. Does Welt require EHR in his substats so he can land his slow on the enemies without them effect res? 2. Does break effect reduce the turn of the imprisonments on the enemies when Welt weakness break them?
1. Welt has around 50% EHR in this video. 2. I think someone already answered this in comment section, so i will just copy-paste from them: Imaginary break imprisonment is calculated by 30% x (1 + break eff), Welt have 295% break eff, that make his delay equal to 118,5% + 30% from trailblazer on top of spd down. Tldr: an unit with blazing spd of 180spd after break will have a spd around 50.
Luka Boothill wouldn't work well because you're sacrificing either the sustain or a main support (RM/Bronya). Boothill just does so much break damage that Luka's personal damage is nothing compared to him. It'd be much better to buff Boothill with a support than using an extra dps like Luka.
I'm asking a real questin bro, is Talia and Vonwacq finally worth to farm rn? My account, finished farming Salsotto, SSS, Penacony, Rutillan Arena and Broken Keel. But barely farming Talia and Vonwacq.. But, what do you think? I got luocha, RM, E6 Gallagher and Welt.. and with this showcase, showing that ur build finish the MoC 12 faster than my Ratio + sign with SW, Fx, and Sparkle 😂 EDIT : I really wanna make use of my Welt.. Before, I use my Welt as a sustain and it failed miserably.. lol.. and never using it again since then
If you really want to try break team then go ahead and farm World 4 SU, you will get both Talia and Vonwacq set. I think Talia is a really good set for break meta, Vonwacq depends on situation (sometime you need that specific char goes first such as Ruan Mei). And i think Welt is more useful with break build, his imprisonment does scale with BE, it means you can turn enemy into a snail and keep delaying their turn just like in this video.
@@FuiPaisen Lol, that's right.. Thank you bro for ur advice.. My RM still using Broken Keel with ER rope till now and I found out that there's something wrong with her ult rotation.. because I'm not using her sign (I use MoTP), and playing her with high speed, but got confused bcs somethimes her ult not available when my DPS takes turn.. and definitely I will be using Welt next time for Breaking enemies ^-^
@FuiPaisen i guess thats true.. i already got s5 fermata in kafka, and im getting the herta lc by next week... so I'll just swap w/c better for kafka, then welt gets the other one
Unless their kit has BE to ATK or BE to DMG% or vice versa stated in their kit, no, Break DMG doesn't scale with ATK or DMG bonus or even crit. Break Damage is affected by: BE, enemy toughness, def shreds, res pens, vulnerability multipliers. Super Break DMG is affected by: BE, OWN toughness damage, MC trace, def shreds, res pens, vulnerability multipliers, toughness dmg increase and weakness break efficiency.
It's really crazy, maybe in the future the BE team will be the first option team because it is easy to create it. just imagine we only need spd and BE it already has a large dmg and no need to worry about relic stats if it gets DEF&Hp %
This reminds me of my early experience playing hsr. Im so mad i keep lose against kafka. So i start building welt hypercarry team from scratch just to bully her. Worth it
Yooooo, we finally get to use Welt for real in MoC12, i used him too in a semi full imaginary team with Luocha... Wasnt as good because of how low Luocha's dmg was, but i needed the imaginary breaking power, and I dont have e2 Gallagher. Sad
I dunno but I think when 1 of the 2 enemies on the field is 1-HP-ish you should Q with Gallagher/Ruanmei to eliminate it, and then skill with HTB/Welt for that maximum super break on 1 single enemy would have saved you 1 cycle imo
Can you try the same comp but with Sparkle instead of Gallagher? I want to see if it's possible to run a no sustain team due to the imaginary break and Welt's action value pushback.
I don't think u need sustainer at this point, just put 3rd harmony or debuffer like pela, silver wolf and black swan. The delaying turn orders and break from Welt, HTB and Ruan Mei are good enough to stall
So let me get this straight, you need 7 Welt, with almost 300% break effect and 2 Harmony characters, to do the dmg of a well built crit Welt with E0 ? Gotchu fam 😂
My Welt is E2 but I plan to pull for Firefly anyways so I will probably not farm for him as of right now because I need to farm for RM, the relics are too damn grindy..
@@Isomeria450the best defense is a strong offense as ppl say... And Welt's offensive abilities are so good to the point of aging their 'life' cycle to oblivion 😭😭😭
Yaaaaay hyperbreak Welt~~ 🤩 LOL 00:50 , 2:06, and 5:34 ... 218 AV for the elite that should be the one of fastest elite 🤣, also 219 AV for Kafka, double imprisonment is the best
i cleared moc12 kafka with welt, hmc, ruanmei and ratio in 6 turn (my relic sucks) i think, at this point, hmc is better than robin, except hmc need the enemy to be broken first. as long as you have high breaking efficiency, hmc is a beast who can increase your damage by more than 50k per turn.
In my other showcases i did use E0 Welt to sustain and it worked well so i think there is no problem with E0 Welt, but u still need Ruan Mei for this to work tho.
For those who are pulling for Firefly, replace Welt's position with her to get the best team Firefly and Imaginary Trailblazer in one team is intentional
'' Meme Build '' ? Bruh, Break isn't a Meme. It hurts like hell, it's just that you need a specific support to help you actually do something, it's the same like Elemental Mastery, the few characters that scale off of Elemental Mastery have an INSANE SCALING and they do TONS of damage, you'll never see anyone saying Al Haitham is a piece of shit, because his damage is simply too big just because of his E.M conversaion scaling.
Should i make some Pure Fiction showcase with break team too?
P/S: I forgot to change Welt Eidolon💀(Still keep the same setup from that Gigachad Team Showcase). Sorry for this mistake, i will be more careful next time and do double check on every character before recording.
Yessir
You definitely should gonna see some funny numbers happen. These break showcases are interesting as hell to watch
You don’t have to apologize lol u do a good job with your showcases either way
Would this still work with E0 Welt and no Ruan mei?
@@janbertguerrero6988 i think it still works with E0 Welt, but there is no point to try this team without Ruan Mei. Because i have tried to play break team without Ruan Mei and only a few comp that worked. I tried Welt + HMC + 2 other Imaginary chars and it took me 5 cycles to clear the same stage so i think it's just a waste of time without Ruan Mei.
-"meme build"
-consistent 3 cycle clear
-consistent perma stunlock to the point that you may as well run no sustain
my man thats not a meme build thats just meta
This is a fun showcase, However you do need someone to clear Kafka's and the elites debuff, else it's gonna be a lot of reset for that perfect run.
Theoretically you could run bronya to basic spam then skill to cleanse
(I know this is a burned food tier take but it's possible)
gallagher might as well change his path.
@@kienmaple if you have gallagher's e2 then he can cleanse through his skill
For people who doesn’t know
Imaginary break imprisonment is calculated by 30% x (1 + break eff)
Welt have 295% break eff, that make his delay equal to 118,5% + 30% from trailblazer on top of spd down 🤣
Tldr: an unit with blazing spd of 180spd after break will have a spd around 50 :)))
Sustain welt is actually break Welt on disguise
Not Welt stun locking and sending Kafka down to the next Cycle every turn 💀
Welt : it's my turn😏
Kafka : .....
Meme build:
In reality: *Building lore accurate Welt in his days as the Herrscher of reason* 😂😂😂😂😂
Its the Prime Welt we've been waiting for
Lets goooo
I think welt should be considered a sustainer at this point
he already basically is
dps welt generally needs too much investment to be viable and his debuffing is just action delay anyways
@@yesno4326 Oh I thought he's just a debuffer lol
@@syamilfaiz1189same until i saw ppl saying that delaying turns is a pseudo-defensive move which preservation units quite do as in Geppy's skill
I should really build the E4 Welt the game has so kindly gifted me over the last year. He has been "that" general 5* for me and refuses to leave me in peace.
You should... With the mechanic of Super Break implemented, Welt can abuse it by giving tons of BE, which in return makes the imprisonment longer. I did tried it before, but because my relic stats aren't stellar, it's not a perfect delay😅
out of the standard 5 stars, welt has some good eidolons. id definitely build and use him.
In my case Bronya and Welt E3 :P
Welt broke the enemy so hard they didnt get to have a turn😂😂
Also 3:40 Paisen U did not💀💀💀
Edit: Sorry, just realise wrong time stamp😅
Foul, lmao 😂😂😂😂
Break Welt breaking knees so no enemy ever gets a turn, what a Chad.
Hmm, would it be possible to ask for a Firefly showcase?
Super Break Trailblazer is super nice. I like that HSR has at least two builds for the main character that have use cases. I wonder if there will eventually be some kind of mechanic to explicitly buff "bounce" attacks like the ones Harmony Trailblazer and Welt have - there's at least one other bounce attacker (Sampo) on the top of my head that could make use of any support enhancement to that mechanic.
Asta can too, and I would count Misha ult, since it's multiple hits and not AOE.
@Dragonboy55564 technically argenti full ult would count too since the last 6 hits are bounce
"His Best Friend..."🥰🥰
Welt finally remember his background
I've seen this with robin instead of Gallagher
Needless to say, robin kept advancing everyone's turn for that extra energy recharge
This has me thinking... Welt is tehnically a viable sustain instead of Gallagher in HyperBreak comps. He can prolong the BreakDPS's "Damage Time" by keeping the enemy back. Finally! Grandpa gets to shine!
I have a couple of questions. I hope you could answer these.
1. Does Welt require EHR in his substats so he can land his slow on the enemies without them effect res?
2. Does break effect reduce the turn of the imprisonments on the enemies when Welt weakness break them?
1. Welt has around 50% EHR in this video.
2. I think someone already answered this in comment section, so i will just copy-paste from them:
Imaginary break imprisonment is calculated by 30% x (1 + break eff), Welt have 295% break eff, that make his delay equal to 118,5% + 30% from trailblazer on top of spd down. Tldr: an unit with blazing spd of 180spd after break will have a spd around 50.
@@FuiPaisen I see.. alright, thank you so much! 👌
Bruh this is a fun comp and the fact they keep sending kafka unto the next cycle without a turn kills me.
Not me planning on running Welt, HMC and Boothill for over 100% enemy action delay.
Can you try Luka+HMC hyperbreak w/ and without boothill?
Luka Boothill wouldn't work well because you're sacrificing either the sustain or a main support (RM/Bronya). Boothill just does so much break damage that Luka's personal damage is nothing compared to him. It'd be much better to buff Boothill with a support than using an extra dps like Luka.
It´s my turn, now, it´s my turn, well then, now is my turn again, and you know what? NOW, IS MY TURN!
how well does this work with e0 welt
I'm asking a real questin bro, is Talia and Vonwacq finally worth to farm rn? My account, finished farming Salsotto, SSS, Penacony, Rutillan Arena and Broken Keel. But barely farming Talia and Vonwacq..
But, what do you think? I got luocha, RM, E6 Gallagher and Welt.. and with this showcase, showing that ur build finish the MoC 12 faster than my Ratio + sign with SW, Fx, and Sparkle 😂
EDIT : I really wanna make use of my Welt.. Before, I use my Welt as a sustain and it failed miserably.. lol.. and never using it again since then
If you really want to try break team then go ahead and farm World 4 SU, you will get both Talia and Vonwacq set. I think Talia is a really good set for break meta, Vonwacq depends on situation (sometime you need that specific char goes first such as Ruan Mei). And i think Welt is more useful with break build, his imprisonment does scale with BE, it means you can turn enemy into a snail and keep delaying their turn just like in this video.
@@FuiPaisen Lol, that's right.. Thank you bro for ur advice.. My RM still using Broken Keel with ER rope till now and I found out that there's something wrong with her ult rotation.. because I'm not using her sign (I use MoTP), and playing her with high speed, but got confused bcs somethimes her ult not available when my DPS takes turn.. and definitely I will be using Welt next time for Breaking enemies ^-^
Are all ropes used in the video are Break Effect? Including Gallagher, Welt, RM, Luocha, and HMC?
So i guess ill build another BE set for welt... Which is better herta LC or fermata s5?
Herta LC is good for dot char, but i think it doesnt matter because we use these LC only for the BE stat.
@FuiPaisen i guess thats true.. i already got s5 fermata in kafka, and im getting the herta lc by next week... so I'll just swap w/c better for kafka, then welt gets the other one
That's really smart, i'll definitely use this comp tysm! 🥰
Does break dmg need base attack for more damage or can you just focus on break effect
Unless their kit has BE to ATK or BE to DMG% or vice versa stated in their kit, no, Break DMG doesn't scale with ATK or DMG bonus or even crit. Break Damage is affected by: BE, enemy toughness, def shreds, res pens, vulnerability multipliers. Super Break DMG is affected by: BE, OWN toughness damage, MC trace, def shreds, res pens, vulnerability multipliers, toughness dmg increase and weakness break efficiency.
@@FuiPaisen thx for the quick answer, well explained too
The Momment Welt Use Power Repilca Divine Key 9: Star Of Eden only 30% In Game
So by statas i see he is speedy break boi but how about effect hit. does he still need to reach break point? what lc instead fermata.
All characters become god mode with super break
Not clara tho :(
It's really crazy, maybe in the future the BE team will be the first option team because it is easy to create it. just imagine we only need spd and BE it already has a large dmg and no need to worry about relic stats if it gets DEF&Hp %
because obviously we only need high BE and lvl not caring about ATK, CRT, and CDM stast
Can you show Hyperbreak Hook next time? I wonder how she's perform in comparison with Firefly 😅
U mean "Firefly at home" XD
@@FuiPaisenHow dare you to compare the one and only Pitch-Dark Hook the great with someone who can't fight outside of high-tech mecha😂
This reminds me of my early experience playing hsr. Im so mad i keep lose against kafka. So i start building welt hypercarry team from scratch just to bully her. Worth it
I think replace galagher with hanya is better to those enemy lineup
Both the automaton and kafka has physical weakness and she can buff welt speed
Seele years ago: you guys are too slow, it's always my turn!
Welt: oh I guess that's over now :) it's EVERYONE turn now
Does sustain really needed in this comp? Is there no one that can use that slot for more damage or speed or break?
Yooooo, we finally get to use Welt for real in MoC12, i used him too in a semi full imaginary team with Luocha... Wasnt as good because of how low Luocha's dmg was, but i needed the imaginary breaking power, and I dont have e2 Gallagher. Sad
You should try change Gallagher for silverwolf and use 4pcs quantum on welt, hmc and also sw, no need for sustain when you have welt + ruan mei 😂
would love to see that
I dunno but I think when 1 of the 2 enemies on the field is 1-HP-ish you should Q with Gallagher/Ruanmei to eliminate it, and then skill with HTB/Welt for that maximum super break on 1 single enemy
would have saved you 1 cycle imo
Kneel.
Ps: will you play wutherin waves tho
Maybe if I can manage my free time for one more game.
me when i manage to play 4 gacha game daily
Can you try use kafka break effect
I already gt Kafka Hyper Break showcase on this channel too, you can look it up 👍
does welt e1 increse super break damage too?
What link rope you used?Break effect or ERR?
ERR Rope.
Does robinSp
Let you edit jades so u can pull for fun?
No, this is just beta server that lets you test things.
Can you try the same comp but with Sparkle instead of Gallagher? I want to see if it's possible to run a no sustain team due to the imaginary break and Welt's action value pushback.
Gallagher is used in the team not for sustain but rather debuffer for increased break damage
Tq for doing this, Paisen😭
I don't think u need sustainer at this point, just put 3rd harmony or debuffer like pela, silver wolf and black swan. The delaying turn orders and break from Welt, HTB and Ruan Mei are good enough to stall
So let me get this straight, you need 7 Welt, with almost 300% break effect and 2 Harmony characters, to do the dmg of a well built crit Welt with E0 ? Gotchu fam 😂
This video literally showed that Welt is a gift 😂
Welt Finally showing his Star of Eden Powers, if this is C6 , I think he could have hit more with crit build
But he cant stall like this 😔
My Welt is E2 but I plan to pull for Firefly anyways so I will probably not farm for him as of right now because I need to farm for RM, the relics are too damn grindy..
so much delay u might dont use sustain
Welt is best Preservation character.
Gallegher is pretty nice for team dps anyways. 13% break vulnerability and he deals decent break damage with his ult+basic combo.
@@marcoleung311-v7j true
@@Isomeria450the best defense is a strong offense as ppl say... And Welt's offensive abilities are so good to the point of aging their 'life' cycle to oblivion 😭😭😭
Where jy break at?
lightning lord would probably deal insane superbreak (once every 2 years)
I have JY break video on this channel too.
i mean replace Welt with Boothill in the first team and that's a really good Boothill team, so makes sense that first team works pretty well lmao
I NEED to see a dr. Ratio team!
They didn't stand a chance to move😂
Yaaaaay hyperbreak Welt~~ 🤩
LOL 00:50 , 2:06, and 5:34 ... 218 AV for the elite that should be the one of fastest elite 🤣, also 219 AV for Kafka, double imprisonment is the best
Does he needs any spd?
Now that look more like welt i know
wow this open my mind.
this is not a meme buikd.. it can actually clear so its good! +1 sub btw
True. This could even be better without a sustain cuz not once the enemy attacked
@@takuyamishima8 understandable but the sustainer also deals great damage 😂 so its good overall
Can you try:
Welt(resolution)
Eagle 4 Talia(BE) 159 speed
SW(tutorial)
Eagle 4 Talia(ERR) 158 speed
HTB(Ruan S)
Eagle 4 Talia(BE) 157 speed
Ruan(dance)
Watchmaker 4 Talia(ERR) 160 speed
can you show AV
i cleared moc12 kafka with welt, hmc, ruanmei and ratio in 6 turn (my relic sucks)
i think, at this point, hmc is better than robin, except hmc need the enemy to be broken first. as long as you have high breaking efficiency, hmc is a beast who can increase your damage by more than 50k per turn.
I wanna see break effect seele
want to see that too
mid
Lower than mid
Lore accurate Welt:
No need sustain unit in this tim because they are never had their turns
is this feasible with E0 Welt?
In my other showcases i did use E0 Welt to sustain and it worked well so i think there is no problem with E0 Welt, but u still need Ruan Mei for this to work tho.
thank you :)
my E0 welt with same BE and fermata was far from the one on the above 😂 i wonder why🤑
cant hurt you if they cant even touch you
HMC's Talia energy? break effect?
HMC uses ERR Rope in this showcase.
@@FuiPaisen Thank you!
I'm surprised you didn't consider Xueyi with HTB
Her numbers would actually go bonkers
I alr have Xueyi + HTB video on this channel tho.
@FuiPaisen OMG yes...
Sorry I didn't see it
Thanks
I think E6 Welt will do much better full crit
This aint turned based no more
This is no meme, this team might be the bets team in game if u replace gallagher with firefly
Hmmmmmmmmm i wanna try this since i lost 50/50 on ruan mei’s banner
Can you play pela galager hmc firefly e0 firefly with rest of the team e6 plzz🙏🏻
Do FUA teams hyperbreak. Importantly Topaz and Dr.Ratio.
I alr have that video on this channel, you can look it up xd.
th-cam.com/video/DHdI2mRVjl4/w-d-xo.html
Hehe, Break Welt to push them back to the stone age.
Serval Break Team pls 🙏
anyone can be a dps as long as they can break enemy weakness now thanks to htb lmaoo
They literally NEVER got to move lmao
For those who are pulling for Firefly, replace Welt's position with her to get the best team
Firefly and Imaginary Trailblazer in one team is intentional
You actually did it 🥹 thank you I’m gonna sub now
Must be E6 welt... There's no way he could fill up that burst that quick
Yeah it is, I alr wrote that in video description and pinned comment.
Welt and luocha in the same team 💀💀💀
Welt + rm + htb = no, you do not get turns.
Just add silver wolf if enemy did not have imag. weakness lol
Durimu come true
'' Meme Build '' ? Bruh, Break isn't a Meme. It hurts like hell, it's just that you need a specific support to help you actually do something, it's the same like Elemental Mastery, the few characters that scale off of Elemental Mastery have an INSANE SCALING and they do TONS of damage, you'll never see anyone saying Al Haitham is a piece of shit, because his damage is simply too big just because of his E.M conversaion scaling.
Bruh. Never had a Turn.
What is see is it my turn every turn
stelle broken af
DORIMU COMU TURU
It's totally not hmc super break team
every standard char is useful except for yangqing and bailu....
Ngl bro this team is pretty decent
Is this meta? 😳