3D Printed Drone Propellers - Will It Work?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2017
- Hey, thank you so much for watching and please if you did enjoy watching this video, don't forget to hit that like button! In today's video I 3D printed propellers for the Peon 230 racing drone, both using PLA and PETG. The result was semi-successful, it worked but the vibrations was too much for it to be practical. Of course you could take the time to balance the propellers, but I just crash too much for it to be worth the time.
Propeller STL file: www.thingiverse.com/thing:265...
GoPro mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:126...
3D printed drone frame: www.thingiverse.com/thing:629338
How to design a propeller in Fusion 360: goo.gl/kGQ5tP
Electronics
Flight controller: goo.gl/BnLbtd
Motor + ESC combo: goo.gl/9kiMzY
Propellers: goo.gl/A974P3
Video transmitter + camera: goo.gl/KbDS1I
FPV goggles: goo.gl/Y1mUyb
Transmitter + receiver: goo.gl/bmEPWD
PDB: goo.gl/r42Gs8
1500mAh 4S battery: goo.gl/5nbZ5e
The CR-10 3D printer is $370 right now: goo.gl/Y1EfWk
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"I think I have to blame something..."
I definitely saw the tree jump in front of the drone !
Yes, I saw it also... that tree just jumped in front of that drone.... out of nowhere! Those Swedish Jumping trees are a real nuisance! Luckily they hibernate in the summer.
I think they're breaking because you designed them like swinging clubs around. Props should be thicker/wider and steeper pitch at the root, and thinner/narrower and a shallower pitch toward the tip. *Looking forward to your next attempt! Thanks for the awesome vids man!* :)
More to do with the efficiency than the breaking, but yeah. Those things apply because the airspeed is effectively a lot faster at the tip. You want to blend a foil shape that can deal with the airspeed gradient to provide about the same lift (or thrust) along its length. Making the blades a little bit thicker overall should help with the vibration (stiffer), but there may still be a material limitation for 3D printable in terms of breaking.
They're breaking because they're made out of the completely wrong plastic for this application
10:55 It's possible the blades just gave out from the stresses of flying. I watched the footage at 0.25 speed, and couldn't see anything that would have caused the crash.
The nose went down and to the right first, which was the only prop that wasnt the same color. I think it was the PETG prop and because it didnt look like it hit anything I think it broke apart in midair and caused the rest of the drone to fall. Most likely it was only one of the blades that failed, but after that it puts too much stress on the other 2 blades and thus had no more thrust causing it to fall from the sky. But yes I agree. Dont use PETG for 3d printed drone props i guess lol
@@MichaelNelsonYT if possible I'd say to use an SLA printer if planning to make any kind of props.
Not only should it result in a stronger bond, but the surface details are much better than filament printers.
Man, i have just found your channel, and im lovin it! Just keep it up it's very good quality video here, and i like your humor :))))
"And now, let us see, will it crash?"
Flies straight into a tree.
Hah neat, I totally thought the centrifugal force would have torn them apart. With a bit of refining you could probably gain a little more power out of them, and maybe polycarbonate would hold up to more abuse? Congrats on the silver play button!
It's something I super want to get into if I had the time and more space! The PC filaments are boss at standing up to abuse, I use them in my robots so reckon they'd make awesome props.
Saw another guy print props and a balancer and they held up. Though crashes don't seem to be very good for these props.
Very cool. I wonder if you could gab some extra lift by increasing the width/surface area of the props.
Ah ok. I don't have any experience with drones but they sure as heck fascinate me.
Maker's Muse sometimes you'd need to make more Thick fans for stability and function
Congrats for silver play button
I love your videos, dude, please keep it up! Came across your channel when I first got into 3D printing. You helped me decide on buying a CR-10, which I could not be happier with. Now I’m getting into the FPV world and here you are again with your awesome adventures. Thanks bro!
Dude, love your videos, very entertaining, and easy to watch. I like that you are not trying to be all loud, and "in your face". Keep up the good work.
You deserve more subs. 155k isnt enough for a channel as great as yours.
I agree with you.
It is so weird!! I’ve been here since 20k subscribers and to see you grow this much is just AMAZING!! Congratulations my friend :D
Very good video as always. Loving you, KEEP GOING ON !!
Thanks so much for making this video man! I tried 3D printing those props out of PLA and got them to work pretty good for me. I sanded the faces fairly well and the vibrations were pretty much gone. I am going to try designing my own props to make them more sturdy at the center like cyclones.
Finally someone makes some :D I have been wondering forever
Brilliant! Love your stuff, and congrats on the new bling!
Great video Simon, your editing style has come on so much! I remember only a while ago you were asking me advice about 3D printers - how far you've come!! Top stuff! And congrats on the silver play!!
Another masterpiece! Good job Simon
I'd love to see more experimentation with 3D printed props.
Good to see you that 3D printed propellers actually work. Enjoyed the video
You are awesome at flying drones.
Your a lucky person and very intelligent with a good sense of humour.
Keep the videos coming Simon
Awesome video, thanks for taking the time to do that. Most of the places I landed when searching were just people saying, "Can't be done," with no evidence or actual attempts even made. This proves it CAN be done, just needs refining. Thanks again.
Great video, Simon! I agree that some of the power loss is due to vibrations, but if you're going to compare the 3D-printed propellers to the non-printed ones in terms of power, you should at least make them the same shape! Also, I can't tell if you already did this, but i think the pitch of the blades should decrease from the center of the prop towards the edges to account for the increased lift the faster moving tips make compared to the parts near the center. This might be more relevant in larger props though. But hey, still great content :)
P.S. Greetings from Norway :)
Tapering towards the tip keeps lift along the blades the same without having to build twist into them. It also improves throttle response by decreasing rotational inertia. Centrifugal force is also decreased, which would be a good thing for 3D printed props to prevent coming apart between layers.
Loss of power can be counteracted by having more surface area. They seemed to me as if they had a LOT less surface area than the black props anyway.
awesome vid, and congrats on the Sliver button , always enjoy watching your vids nicely edited and informative
I love your videos, keep the awesome content coming my man, you doing work
Interesting to see it actually works. Will try it soon. My guess is a sturdier design, proper balancing and a smooth finish will improve performance immediately.
You deserve a lot more subscribers dude. Love your work.
Congratulations, in a year since you uploaded this video you’ve gained another 209000 subs. Keep going
instant liked and subscribed ... keep it up man was fun to watch!
Awesome channel you got here, Simon!
Спасибо тебе за твоё время, которое ты даришь нам, чтобы мы узнали что-нибудь полезное! ) Очень качественный контент!
Nice video man, keep up a good work! ❤
That was awesome! You also answered my questions about 3D printing. And big time respect for owning that wreck. You could have deleted the footage, but you didn't, that's cool.
man you have an awesome TH-cam channel I enjoy watching yo videos they are very friendly and understandable... keep it up man
I love your videos!!!GOOD JOB
The vibration problem can be solved by balancing the propellers on the tip of a pencil, looking at which side it leans to, and then sanding off lit bits of plastic until the propeller balances perfectly on the tip of the pencil (needle, sharp object, etc). Reducing vibrations will also make the propeller's lifespan increase greatly. Great video - thanks for posting!
11:48 Sustain flight they can, Simon I am! Great vid
Simply amazing video! I wanna print some now
We are growing faster than ever which is awesome, thank you so much! Please hit that like button if you think 3D printed RC stuff is fun to watch and I'll make more.
RCLifeOn F R E S H
Hey. Just wondering if you've tried balancing the props yet? BTW I've wanted to try this for a long time. So awesome.
can you build a drone of beginning to end (start to finish) i would appreciated?
How about 3D printed Motors next time?I mean the housing and then putting the magnets and copper wire in it...
There is a full guide on his chanel in previous videos.
Great Video! I've just subscribed, looking forward to watching your other drone videos
Your videos are awesome keep on posting
Congrats for the silver play button!
Great vid almost halfway thru
This is great testing. Keep at it. Great job.
Congratulations for the silver play butten! I love all of your videos an like all of them to and you are so creative love it🤓😀 😃 😄 😁
Bro, I'm totally new here, but I have one thing to say: You are awesome. No, realy. I just want to start make something like this. You just inspire me AF, so thank you! I don't realy understand how working electronic parts of yours "toys", you know, I'm not engenier and didn't working with this kind of stuff, but its absolutly great! (Sorry for my bad english)
Props to you on the video
Congrats for the play button 😘😄u deserve it 👏🎉👌✌🎊🎈
Pleasant idea, you're a nice dude.
Awesome video!
It usually bothers me when TH-camrs ask for likes, but your content is so enjoyable that I can't resist not to click that like button ;)
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Awesome idea.
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I like your work , go ahead 💙💜
The thickness of the blades nearer to the base on the purchased blade looks significantly different than the design you’ve printed. It would be interesting to see an A-B comparison with an identical design. I would also be interested to see if different infill patterns and a printed material like polycarbonate or abs would affect the structural integrity at sustained high speed spinning forces like this. Good video, keep it up!
Real quick the blades are way to thin for the motors and the blades are only on by what looks like 4mm of connecting plastic to the centre which is not enough
And by the way the reason you fell from the sky that one time because a propeller broke from the centrifugal force it ripped it apart
If anything make the blade thicker lower pitch and thicker at the centre and don’t screw the bolt on to tight because that cracks the prop
Anyway keep doing what you love.
Thumbs up ! Great video :)
Great job you have convinced me to get a 3D printer, amazing RD. This is a new hobby i hate ordering parts, no guarantee they will work or not break, printing my own would be a major achievement. Thanks again keep up the great work! '
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The trousers are made by Revolution Race. I was looking and searching for a very long time and eventually found them and ordered a pair straight away.
great job, u da man!!!!
Again awsme video
As a proof of concept I think it was a winner. Just got to improve the design so it doesn't lose so much energy and if you can use a stronger material. I don't know how cold it was but that would make PLA less flexible and more likely to shatter. ABS would behave similar I would think in the cold. Just ordered my own 3D printer with the hope of building a drone so thank you for proving it can be done.
Great place, great skills, great video making!!! I like so much your video, I envy your ability!
omg the jello with the 3d printed propellers!
Grattis till Silver Knappen :)
Congratulations on the silver play button
Love your video
I love printing in NNnnnn. It's a really nice material to work with.
I'm absolutely loving the 3d printed quadcopter stuff. I've always wanted to get into it never knew how to start. Get yourself some more backup batteries and I'd love to see how far you could take this. I'm pretty sure those props weren't the best design for the job. Maybe try printing them in ABS and then vapor smooth them to get rid of some of the roughness from layer lines.
Awesome 😎
Wow, just wow.
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great vids I learn from you and that is great.
You could print "crash proof" propellers in TPU :D
Congrats on your TH-cam achievement, you channel is growing fast!
TPU props would flatten out
Hello there!!! Your videos are so inspiring💗
You definitely need to try nylon for that. It has the highest mechanical strength of any reasonably printable plastic. You probably also need to make them a bit thicker to prevent slop while spinning. Good luck, I'd love to see this revisited.
yeah more 3d printing!
Have you tried adding a 30 minute z-poxy pt-39 layer to the propellers ? I think they have "drag". Since the surface is not smooth enough it fights the air. Try either sanding or the e-poxy layer in a future video! You're doing a great job and i will definantly "steal" your work :) and make my own videos with my "vision" on these projects. Who's the man? YOU'RE THE MAN! KEEP IT UP!
i'm interested in trying these out - it'd be great if the Fusion file(s) were available for tweaking purposes. different filaments will be tried, though. great demo. i've been looking around and although i've found about 10 or 12 of 3D printed props, a lot of them are for the micro quads and some are like 8" (go fig).
great vid as always - keep up the great work
Russ from Coral Springs, Florida, USA
I LOVE IT
You put that first one on the wrong spot lol good video man loved it
cool man!
Its quite a risky game you are playing there...
Awesome editing as always, really love it :)
By the way, revolutionrace fits you really nice ;)
Patrick Berger why risky?
Loved this video and you live in abeautiful part of the world. So jealous
Só o único brasileiro aqui que curte demais esse canal?
Muito show... Parabens
This channel is something like: "how to make fail tests", but it is kinda funny.
Молодец парнишка. И всё же - это дорогое удовольствие, один двигатель чего стоит.
Simon, you're advancing the discipline through trial and error. It's all good! You're also learning quite a lot to be sure.
My very non-expert observation is that the props you printed vary tremendously in form from the stock props. Just a thought, but I wonder what props modeled after the stock props, and printed out of, oh, I don't know, nylon, would do.
Keep up the great work you're doing!
maybe give ABS a try :)
I feel like ABS is heavily hated on by the community, because of the fumes. But it is so awesome, cheap, and the one of the few plastics that you can smooth while not having to buy expensive special filament made from a secret kind of plastic
Oh, and if you don’t fear ABS, you should try HIPS (high impact polystyrene)
It is very similar, prints a little bit easier and is sometimes cheaper. It is so much more than a dissolvable filament, and it is actually a common engineering material. but like ABS, it releases styrene fumes..but less other chemicals
Interesting video! They flew at least.
Really cool idea, ands as always great video! Im thinking about building the peon 230, but im new to the hobby. Can you please do a complete tutorial/guide of the buid with the wiring and programming especially? It would be really helpful if you could, thanks. Congrats on the silver play and keep up the amazing work!
I didn't know that you had a Tevo Black Widow! Hopefully we see review in the near future :D
It would be helpful if you created the same shape as the non - 3D printed propellers. It would make your test more comparable to what flying your drone is like with the non - 3D printed propellers. Also if you incorporated 3D laser scanning on a rotary table it would be super cool to show your process of doing that. I know you have done it before, but might be helpful for recreating the originals. Awesome job on this episode, I love your videos and keep up the good work.
The temperature changes the properties of the plastic used.
In summer they maybe would hold up longer.
PLA is already known to be brittle, low temperatures certainly increase that.
Maybe try some other 3D printing materials known to be a bit more flexible, try printing at different temperatures to get better layer bonding, and modify the physical structure of those props, to prevent weakpoints. Your current props seem to break almost always near the center.
Different infill patterns for the layers may also alter the properties of the props. Sanding the props to smooth the surface could help with the vibrations.
And, as stated in other comments, try balancing the props. You probably could print a balancing station ;)
Otherwise I really like the way your channel progresses :D
Keep it up~
I'd love to see a video showing suggested starter parts to buy to build your own drone using something like Amazon as a baseline :)
Dude, your awesome. Thank you for the vid. You try to make a small drone frame that is flexible enough not to break during crashes yet stiff enough to handle the thrust of the motors. That is how the best propellers are today and I think frames will be like that in the future.
You want the frame as rigid as possible. Floppy frames create feedback and oscillations. Carbon frames are nearly indestructible. You need to crash really hard to break them.
You caught my interest
Print with polycarbonate, its much more durable
You need a enclosure.
and you need a temperature sensor that withstand near 400C
Nice video, i did´t expect that outcome. I have a CR-10 too, but all the rectraction blobs make it impossible for me to even think of making propellers.
But i do have some tips for you, if you want to give the blades a second try:
Try a steeper pitch at the root of the propellers and a smaller pitch at the tip. And do a curved design of the blades. Otherwise you don´t use the full potential of your props. This is because you force the air flow to change direction immediately and therefore get flow separation on top of the blades, trailing their leading edge (if using a constant pitch that is too steep). If you use a shallow, constant pitch, you don´t use the full potential of air flow deflection and therefore also loose power. As someone in the comments already stated, the pitch should be steep at the root and shallower at the tip because the speed of a outward moving reference point on the blade increases with increasing diameter. And the pitch should be shallower at the top of the blade than on the bottom (you don´t want sudden flow direction changes, but you do want a maximum possible deflection).
Just a few inspirations. Would be nice to see a second version of your props!
So... your videos and dedication are supreme!!! But I will totally ask you, in the most kind of way...
Please keep some time for yourself and the ones you love.
First, I have to tell you that your content is amazing and Im truly enjoying each second I spend here. Do you think that the vibration and the waste of energy on the 3D printed propellers are because of the design or the filament used? or is it because it is a 3D printed part and it will never be as good as the other one?