Which G4 Epic Ship Should You Get in Star Trek Fleet Command, Or, Should You Skip Them?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
- For MANY players (over 9,000 players currently sitting at level 49!), heck almost @everyone who watches this channel, the choice between G4 Epics is a difficult one. Do you get one of the level 50 ships in Star Trek Fleet Command or should you skip them? Well let's discuss the Pros and cons! Pros: Really strong ships! Cons? COST!
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1. Giving relative costs for all three as well as which one I believe is the best
2. Faction credit sourcing and how that might make these not as popular
3. YES, these can take down G5 ships!
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650 bps is a ridiculous amount for these
Especially as the stronger G5 uncommon cost much less
@@brianbrown8847 SSSSSSTTT don't give them any ideas.
I started planning to get the Tribune when I got to ops 42. I decided that I would skip the Newton and pick up the Pilum and Korinar to use as my 46 ships. That saved me a lot of 4* ship parts and mats so that when I finally got the Tribune I was able to take it to T9 on day 1 without additional spending. Planning a head for what you want will save you a lot of headache.
Wow. Excellent
You should skipp all the g4 epics and get a g5 uncommon. With the faction you spend on bps for a g4 epic, you can get 2 g5 uncommons.
or better a uncommon and a nova.
If you skip G4 Epic then you won't be able to upgrade your borg cube past G4 Rare currently.
@@williamrion4799 Thats not true, its false information by scopely! A uncommon g5 ship does the job!
@@Schoder66 I have 2x G5 ships, an unc and a rare both at tier 5 and it still says "Claim the Borg Data Node Tier 8 from the refinery after upgrading the Tribune, USS Enterprise-A, or Hegh'ta to Tier 4. Reaching a requirement for any future Borg Data Node will also grant this resource." Not sure what the next requirement is but would be nice to skip it.
@@Schoder66 thanks man, i found a breakdown of the cube tiers. went ahead and got a $19 pack to tier 6 my G5 and got 3 more tiers on my cube. appreciate the help!
Less than 40 shards away from my Enterprise A, I did skip at at first and love my Corvus but I just want the Enterprise A
The Tribune is truly amazing, by tier 6 the ship ability more than doubles your total damage. The ship ability is what makes the ship and can not be overstated, you're given direct access to one of the biggest damage variables in the game with plenty of room to abuse the system to squeeze more damage out.
I have a maxed Neelix and Tyler, I can back to back solo 6 level 52 G5 uncommon armadas without any buffs. With Picard+Bev+Tyler I can go into level 60 freebooter space and complete dailies taking less damage and having a way cheaper repair bill than the Corvus.
Rev scolding people to do their research is like a parent scolding kids to do their homework 😂
Said like someone who needs to finish their homework!! ❤😂
Might pick one up as a collector's item at some point. I skipped them . Went to 53 with only a pilum and got a corvus and Northcutt.
Smart man.
I saved faction creds and away teams for an Ent A. While I remain undecided if it was worth the faction credits, it really added to my alliance armadas contribution (Kelvin was my flagship prior). Furthermore, it has been great for rep grinding. Ultimately it brings me joy and that's what I find important to stay happy and engaged in STFC. Thanks for the video, Rev
Thanks for putting this video as this has been talked about some recently on some of your streams. I will skip the Tribune so I can save credits for g5 ships, maybe I can pick up later one day to collect it, but 1 mil faction credits still takes a while collect even with voyager stuff.
The benefit of a G4 epic is to get G5 striking power for G4 repair costs. G5 uncommon ships usually see (depending on research) repair costs of a billion tritanium or so after daily grinding. If you can't afford that, and don't have ambitions towards hitting higher in the 50's, a G4 Epic might work, though a good G4 Rare like the Pilum is better value
If you can afford that (and you do get more daily through chests, dailies, the Monaveen, etc. as you get above 50), and you're looking to go much beyond 53, then a G5 uncommon works better and has a higher "ceiling" for upgrades. And you can buy a pair of Novas (or a Nova and a G5 Uncommon) for less than a single G4 epic would cost.
As a level 42 this is greatly appreciated
Ty for the video Rev Deuce and LLAP!
I build my Tribune when i was 50 and Skip the 53 uncommon go direct to 56 sanctus. In that days My though was you the uncommon has to less warp rang to cover up G5 area. But the rare g5 can. My g5 resource I full invested in Building to get quick to 56. Uncommon g5 will slow your progress. You have to bring it at less to tier 6 because of the cube. But tier up g4 ships in in 50+ cost you only g4 mats. You don't need it anymore if you pass 50. Only for some research.
The cube G4 epic bring two tier 8 + 9 where the cube get more and more usefull.
With voyager tailos and cube the uncommen g5 is more and more skippedable. Is my opinion.
I will build epic g5 Enterprise D and Roteran for Wave Defiance. The uncommon g5 is to expensive for repair. You need the Sigma resource.
i've got the Enterprise-A :) been working well so far :)
I have a T10 Pilum that is keeping me going at Level 52. I'm pushing to 53 to get one of the uncommon ships, or maybe 2. I have enough credits for a Northcutt and closing in on the Corvus. Plus, the 5* epic chests are so much better and I've been getting a decent amount of ship BPs each pull.
time #5:25 hi @revDeuce when going ops51 and further we all unlock G5 Chests, there we can do pull for uncommon daily and rare/epic every 3 days = lots Faction credits awaiting there for us all.. we have to do...armadas.. with the Team. ( oooh.. and bp ships and uncommon stuff.. #spoiler alert) i'm ops54 and all gets better organised ...way more LOOT. greetings all from Belgium
Gore 13 (S-701) Thanks for run thru of Voyager loop. Was rubbing head on how to get loop done
We talk about wanting more game stability, updates to events and changes to many of Stfc’s in game loops. However, if Scopely reduced some of the faction credit costs for some of these ships as well as an adjustment to ship parts, free to plays might consider moving up in ops level to get closer to the premium areas. “That would mean more money for you now Scopely, and going forward”
i'm ops 49 and i'm collecting my faction credits for vorcha and novas. But in the same time i'm taking heghta bps from ATA store everyday) i know its a long road and i will be okay without this ship, but i want it for collection. I didnt skip any of klingon ships since D3 and want to save this little tradition)
I love my Tribune, I t farms 60 freebooters and it is my economical choice for dailies. It is viable even at level 57
just comes down to needing it for the Cube, cant skip
As nice as the ops 50 ships are, I skipped them all in favour of a Vorcha, it's a beautiful & Iconic ship and I am really really happy with it and for me, it was the right move
Too hard to get these ships ,without spending cash I’ve played since lockdown and my biggest ship is 16m ,playing the game has started to feel like working with little reward
At lvl 49 my kelvin is doing me just fine, and I still have a load of research to do to make it even stronger… as I don’t do PvP I’ll skip all else until I can get a northcut - even got a few BP, from grinding already! (No idea where mind as wasn’t paying attention when I pulled the cheats lol)
You still would benefit from the 46s for rep grinding :)
What level of rep does the 4* show up in away team store? I am champion and do not have them.
In the long run you should go for a G4 epic ship an max it. It‘s not mandatory for entering g5 economy, but will be very helpful maxing a G5 Epic ship (scrap the g4 epic). At the moment G5 epic ship (at least t10) is mandatory for entering the G6 economy.
I'm ops 50 now (pushed the button for a spend event.) Going slow on buildings, not pushing up again until I have the Tribune I've wanted since they entered the game. I have the ship parts to get to t4 right away, and may have enough for t5 by the time I get the last 100 or so bps....I also already have all my Nova prints so she's ready to go when I get there....Didn't spend a single Rom credit on them....
I'd say Vor'cha. :)
i'm unlocking tribune, but only with away teams, so it will take some time, like 2 years 😂
i was gonna get them but then i looked at the 53's and atm im able to build them faster than the 50's so ive skipped and hopefully will soon have a Vorcha ready to raise terror on my server
may plan is to skip getting the lvl 50 ships. i have already reached Guardian with Klingons. getting nova bps and vor'cha are my top things right now. Nova bp's are being claimed from distinguished with fed's
my short answer is: none.
rather get the 46 ship to a higher tier and shoot for a 52 ship which are way cheaper (at least in faction credits) and way more powerful compared to the 4 star epics
You forgot to mention how tiering these factor into tiering a borg cube.
You forget the screencap Rev added that specifically mentioned at T4 and T6 you get another tier of your Borg Cube.
^ what they said
Skipping G4 epic. Working on Corvus.
I would rather max out the rare G4 then faction grind. The issue is rev. Is scope is sorta screwing the bigger players. How come the Feshia grows with you meaning G4 and G5 parts drop. But the voyager and the pulls for DS9 ie Bajoran armada pulls its based on lvl and takes away G4 parts. Those should be put into those pulls. Especially for higher ups such as myself. For scrapping.
Can you do this video for the 60 epics? Especially as the 63 ships seem to be getting some negative over running costs. Does it make more sense getting a 60?
@RevDeuce I second this. I have over a million faction creds for each faction and I’m closing in on 60 epics. Want to know what I should save up for
Oh yeah. Neelix and faction messages. My Voyager is strong enough to do that now. I need to rewatch that.
What about the Borg cube? I thought it required one of the Epics.
If you get g5 uc to t6 it will backfill with the those upgrades.
@@kevinwilliamson7158 Yeah okay. I was remembering the backfill being only what you already had. Thaaaaaaaaank you!
The big dissapoint for me... cloak only for cash (4packX100 euro...the full unlock) or event store credit high price not remember...ability "skin" cash or event store too...
As far as crits go - i already have some players that I deal 0 damage crits to. They've spend so much on the PVP primes and FT that i do more damage to them without crits than with crits. (yes, they're like high 50s/60s and I was a 39 at the time - but I still got a good laugh)
I get the point about research, but maybe linking to a video or a guide about which research you're referring to might be helpful. Same with previous videos that are being referenced throughout, even if they're in the comments.
My recommendation is to skip the epic G4 and push to the uncommon G5’s as the power jump is so huge if you can.
Just remember, power isn't everything!
I think the G4 Epics are at a difficult spot. They are awesome ships but at a bad place in the game.
F2P should ignore them in favor of a G5 Unc Warship and a Nova while light spenders will might be able to afford them but they push through the point where they have big value to them too fast.
I started working on my Ent-A at ops49 but only got it 2 weeks ago at ops55. I have a Vorcha and Talios which do the Job my Ent-A would do and for Armadas the loot ability on the Pilum helps me more as I can’t punch higher till I have the Sanctus and can defeat the 60 Dreadnoughts reliable which I can’t right now neither with Ent-A nor Pilum.
1m faction credits - guess I'm not getting one.
G4 epic only on lvl 50, lol can not own it from lvl 40 and faction not allowed you to lvl 40 too. when I on lvl50, I am confuse to use 650 (1 million token) or get a G5 ship?
Depends of how do you wanna play, if you rush to 5* I'll say skip G4 epics and build a 53 ship asap. All of them are good, but i prefer Corvus, better impulse speed than Vorcha and more powerful overal than Northcut. I did not build 2nd 53 ship because i was doing 2* 56, Sanctus and Crozier, much more useful than another 53. Do not forget that in the mid 50's you will have your Talios maxed, Voyager maxed or almost maxed, so they can help you as 2nd ship near a 53 until you build your 1st 56.
Btw, weakest part of G4 epic si somehow limited warp range, you can't go far in the 50;s with a G4 epic, so better have a strong 46 ship, then move to a 53 ship, and you can build a G4 epic later, when you have lots of G4 mats left and ship parts as well. But rationaly, if you don't plan to spend lot of time in 50-52 levels better skip them and build a 53 ship.
Rev, 5/7/9 is that a full upgrade and ready to push the button to tier but not or start with no upgrades?
I noticed players who have access to all the different faction ships. I want to know how I can accomplish the same thing.
One of these at tier 4 is a requirement to get the borg cube past tier 7
Which borg systems do you go to with nelix for faction credits?
I'm ops 52 and still considering an Ent A. Sitting at 500k fed creds and 118 bps. It's a tough choice
Rev - I been nit playing for 2 years but just started playing again. My base is LV-20. I’m trying to decide if I should start over in a newer server or just stay and start again on my old account. I just was curious if I’m so behind is it worth playing in a newer galaxy ?
it always felt to me, that scopely switched the ship ability of the enterprise A with the normal enterprise.
it just seems odd, that all those ships at 34 gain weapon damage but the ent gains shield regeneration:
and then you look at the 50s. tribune more shots, heghtah more crit... enterprise A... weapondamage. 🤔
thanks for the ideas Rev. playing on server 178 i´m currently on lvl 45 (non spender with the exception of additional build and research lanes) and going for the korinar shipparts at the awayteam shop. always heapy if there are ships that i can eventualy skip. greatings from germany
Nice work!
One thing which you kind of touched on but didn't dive into too much is how long would it realistically take the average player to level up to 53? In that time frame would it be worthwhile/just plain fun to get one of the epics?
Depends on style of gameplay. I’m Ops49 and still rocking just Valdore (T7) and Kelvin (T7). I have completed every mission in G4 space and have completed all non-faction missions in G5 space up to needing the main question mission “Interlude” at end of Ops51. I don’t PvP, so there is zero reason for me to invest in any ships until the uncommon G5 ships.
Skipping the 46s slows your rep grinding as well as your solo Armada grinds!
@@RevDeuce I’m dual locked at 1bil champion with feds and roms. And getting very close to 1bil with Klingons. I have all the speciality ships maxed to my Ops. And I did it all by only spending $20/mo on battlepass plus the $100 whenever a new special arc ship is released.
I realy need a Enterprise A to replace My U42 Valdore... But Tribune is the only ship to Eclipse a base so big it is. So I'm stoking ATA ship BP for over 100days.
46 ship is much more cost efficient and does a better job than 50's
@@Dozer86 put any ship above a station and see only tribune can eclipse it.
@@paulofilho6304 every g5 ship will smash it any day of the week at a much better cost efficency simple as that
@@Dozer86 Eclipse... repeat after me E CLI PSE hahaha
I just got the Rotarran and still look at the G4 epics. The credit cost though makes it not worth it, which stinks
Let the good times roll
What about new servers, such as 97, that's max level is currently 50 for the foreseeable future?
What about them?
@@RevDeuce Would you still recommend skipping the G4 epics on newer servers that can't go past level 50 for the foreseeable future?
Not much info in here for higher level players. I guess Cath and tLaan won't work on 51+ hostiles, and the refines are crazy expensive. I won't be doing a double chest at ops 56 with a Quv at tier 4.
If you're a higher level, why does a ship at level 50 matter?
But you can take a rare to the uncommon g5 for hunderes of thousands less faction credits.
Do you need a 50 ship to get your borg cube up or does a lvl 53 ship do it also ?
Level 53 will do it!
@@RevDeuce thank you sir !
Do you think Scopely might rebalance these ships abilities? The Tribune looks far, far more powerful than the others.
Scopely does not really believe in "balancing" things. I mean the only time they really did that was with the G3 Epics and that took quite a while before they got around to it.
So what g5 uncommon would you recommend?
Vorcha!
If you want to progress the borg cube are you not forced to get one if these epic ships upto tier 6? Based on message popup in video
Had the same question. Guidance also seemed to be to skip these and go straight for the 53 ships, now we "need" one of these to keep the borg cube grind going
You are not forced. You can skip and just get the 53s and progress if you want.
You can skip epics if you have t6 53 ship
I am sitting at lvl 48; so every lvl 50 plus player I have spoken with (in my alliance and outside) says to skip these they are a waste of time and resources. They are toooo expensive for what you get.
skip. the G5 UNC are half the faction cost and blow these out the water in terms of pvp/pve and warp range
G5s absolutely have advantages, but players are t gonna be 53+ for a long time. It's definitely no easy jump from 50-53!
I mean its pretty clear that if you're going to get one the only one worth getting is the Tribune.
Really don't get it when people say the 50's is pain. I found it to be way fun then the 40's. The 40's were boring and mindless, the 50's is way more lively, almost feels like I'm back in the 30's (f2p)😊 due to the new rewards even spining on the daily slb's is worth it again.
As for the epic factionships. I'd skip all g3 and g4 these days. Even the higher ops uncommons quickly outpreform them in multiple ways and you don't even need the firepower at your ops due to specialty ships like Talios, Voyager and to a lesser extent Monaveen/Defiant being useful for both your daily grind and their desired specialty functions. Heck even if we talking PvP, now that I'm in the 50's, I'd totally pick Talios over any other ship I got. Only use my Pilum still has is rep grinding at low trit cost or as 3th ship in a solo armada.
Dont forget, once these was the biggest ships in the game... after ruined with 5* ships... actualy all 5* an under totaly useless agsinst 6* :D I have EntA, not bad, but have double powrred Northcutt... At op55, need bigger ships than any 4*.
The G4 Epics are vanity projects. Once you have finished all your researches that need mat4, then maybe. But the G5uc ships will completely outclass a T12 G4e ship.
Yep, you take a G5 uncommon and I'll take the Tribune. The Tribune is twice the cost of a G5 uncommon, but I only pay that cost ONE time. The repair cost of a G5 uncommon is 10 times that of the Tribune, and you will be paying that over and over and over again. With the Tribune's ship ability to add 5 shots PER WEAPON at T12, I'll be pushing 50 shots in round 2 alone with Carol and 60 shots in round 2 alone with ST Laan. The Tribune will take ships twice it's power. You showed it in the video. Have fun with those repairs. I know I will.
i skipped all 3 of the 4* epics. The 5* Uncommons were better value for me at 150 BPS to unlock and smokes the 4* Epic even at low levels.
Only smokes based on crewing though !
I think that it is so hard to get the 4* ships and they should cost the same amount of bps same as the 3* 1 epic should be 150 rare should be 120 unc 100, the coast of the bps should cost more instead of
None of these ships are even a glimmer in my eye for at least two years. Heck they don't even show up as an option in my game. 😂
No mention of the fact that you need a Tier 8 4* Epic to advance your borg cube past Tier 9? None of the faction ships are optional if you want to advance your cube
im more like oh research for events omg i dont have enough is my issue at times lol
i want 10 out of 10 for the ship part prime research and the material one too lol
I'm sitting at 49 and will be for the next several months at least. The Tribune's ability is intriguing to me so I'm (slowly) working my way towards that. I'm also a collector so I'm also pursuing the Hegh'ta, but more slowly.
Been spending the last several months really pursuing them, especially after finding out about the armada directive farming technique from Blue, so right now I'm:
135/650 for the Hegh'ta and
215/650 for the Tribune.
Now that I'm ops-locked for the Talios I'm able to pour Borg grind loot into faction credits, have faction messages out the wazoo, and am near-maxing the Away Teams missions for faction credits.
Also 35/150 towards a Nova too.
Plan/goal is to earn enough BPs for at least one Nova (preferably two) and have at least a Tribune ready to go before I go 50+.
Slow and steady is the order of the day; I'm in no rush and in the meantime I'm slowly grinding away at all the research I have left at my level. Already completed all I can in the Outlaw tree.
Could you please share more info/link relating to "armada directive farming technique from Blue"? Appreciate it!
I'm 265 bps away from a Tribune. Sigh........
You got this!
@@RevDeuce ...... Wooohooo!! Got it yesterday morning!
I'm 52 now, skip those ships and spend the resources on building upgrades and research. The price vs reward for these ships is very poor.
Skip them! A tier 4 5* uc will smoke a maxed 4* epic.
I mean you can also smoke a 5* rare, as the pic showed :)
The problem is geting to the unc53 shipyard. But sure save ur credits fron Epic 50 ships.
Getting 4 star uncommon broken parts is mind numbing takes forever to tier up ships they need to change this or more people will get fed up and leave the game the disparity between whales and ftp is ridiculous
Do u mean g4 the title of the video is g5
Wait a minute….Rev has an account higher than 49? 🤔👀
Skip, my Newton took me to level 53 with ease. Epic is a resource waste.
Scopely is forcing ppl to upgrade
The video is about G4 ships, not the G5 epics.
400/650bps for my tribune...... Romulan first not humans will live on Earth..Romulus! 213 to go for my pilum lol... im ok with this cause my g4 uncommon beat some of them pilums out there 28-30mill T7 atm lol
1250 klingon credits a day at distinguish rep! 1.3billion + atm but of course it cost more messages!
my research is going great at lvl 45 my ships are mainly 3million off of urs but the klingons is maybe 4million off so i got 4 more lvls worth of reserach to do to catch up to u!
2 Novas? 1 Nova is too much :)
2 Novas is 1 too little. :)
Absolutely no point to getting a 50 ship. 46 ships work right up to the first g5 ships. Pointless and costly to get them where you could just go to something that's long term useful
None of them! Waste or credits. Get a nova and a ops 53 ship for the same cost.
Skip the epics, 53 ships are so much better
What about the cost of having a life? This game requires too much time. Doesn’t it? I have two accounts: 47 and 31 just so you know who is writing
Short answer. None of them. Skip them all.
Def skip it
Well as PvP is dead. Skip the epics and stick with 46s
Heck if you do like pvp these can be cheap and very effective options
@@RevDeuce dunno a f2p’s 50, would still get pumped by a newish spender’s 46 with the new death crews. If the 50s had some non Abrams skins despite the above I’d be interested
CHOOSE NONE! G4 Epics are a total waste of money.
Skip it.
Skip skip skip skip. You'll grind one out eventually. Waste of perfectly good g5 credits!!!!!
1st
I just scrapped a t11 tribune. I kinda regretted getting it 1 or 2 month later as push to 53 was shorter than expected.
I had a pillum prior and it was serviceable and could easily take you to 53.
I'd I had a redo, I'd go ent a vs trib.