I want to add a couple late points here, firstly that Lierre's WoLF organization that I referred to as "feminist" (after I quick Google) appears to be an anti-trans focused organization as some of you have pointed out. The ACLU has apparently even challenged its claim of being feminist at all as have other feminist organizations describing it as "discriminatory right-wing ideology under the guise of feminism". I actually see this authoritarian oppression of trans people as right in line with her ideologies around animals. I still stand by how someone who views themselves as a feminist like Lierre should be interested in how female animals are treated. Secondly, as many of you have mentioned, Ken is very defensive of dog eating cultures but sits by and nods as soy, a classic staple across many Asian cultures, is reamed into the ground repeatedly by Lierre.
how can an animal be 'female' if biological sex doesnt exist (which is what trans ideology pushes)? feminist organisations that oppose transgender ideology are not right wing, theyre left wing that set out to defend the rights of human females, and not males. also if you google something and then go 'well the ACLU told us it must be true so therefore it is', youre not quite as objective as id hoped. women deserve the right to defend their sex class regardless of their other political beliefs. it has nothing to do with the conversation and only seeks to portray her in a bad light, which her views on animals should already be doing.
I'm from Southeast Asia, and there are cultures that eat dogs but even their younger generations are eating less and less dogs. Also the number of vegans and vegetarians are growing, vegetarians are traditionally seen as a religious devotion among some Buddhists/Taoists/hindus are now seen as more mainstream and acceptable in the larger society.
True you rarely see dog meat at the market anymore it has to be ordered. The problem is during lunar new year (traditional dog eating season). The problem is they roam around at night and steal family dogs. They got our family dog and the neighbours this year and we miss him so much rip. I hate lunar new year😢
@@GarudaLegends eating plant based is necessary if you care abt your health, animal welfare & the environment. The current factory farming & overfishing system is unsustainable and are terrible for your health.
I’m 41 years old and I remember a (fellow, though more affluent) lactose intolerant classmate having an Eden Soy “drink box” when I was in 5th grade… what was that? 1991? We’re not dead. I’m not dead.
Exactly. They've been around a long time. And babies who have problems with human milk or cow-milk-based infant formula thrive with soy-based infant formula.
@@carl13579I was on soy formula as an infant, and look at me now- I’ve been vegan for 15 years, strength train, and have a PhD. I’m thinking soy can’t be too detrimental.
I was raised on my mother’s milk, and then soya and rice milk. Cow milk (even a small amount, or anything made from it, even butter) caused me to be in excruciating pain. I don’t think I’ve had a full glass of straight up cow milk in my life. I’m still alive and kicking. Also, I remember those milk boxes! Eden Soy was our brand growing up!
@AllisonMariePhD exactly. This spy rubbish argument. Tbvh, it wouldn't surprise me that they are sponsored by big animal agriculture. Look at it this way, if Chris Mckaskill from the fantastic TH-cam channel "Plant Chompers", told folks he'd been approached by companies, then I'm sure these two clowns have. Plant Chompers is fab.
“Baby deer end up in the combine” They don’t know anything about farming because most crops are harvested in fall when there are no baby deer. I have heard of many cases of baby deer getting killed during hay bailing season which is about the time baby deer hide and freeze. Pretty sure hay is used to feed the cows to feed the humans.
Yeah making suc claims as if they've been working there and know exactly what happens. Appealing to confidence = truth fallacy. Ppl think whatever they say confidently ppl will believe just because they sound confident
My father farmed wheat his entire life and never once killed a baby dear with the combine...that’s an insane suggestion. I’m sure it happens rarely, but farmers take every care to avoid killing wild animals in their fields.
Having also lived on a farm, I knew that when we walked through a field any fauna in there would of course hear you and bolt. So how much earlier do you think they would run away when a 100 decibel combine harvester heads their way?
Tiny baby deer will hide and not move. So, our small grain / mixed dairy farm equipment did surprise one -- as I recall from over 50 years ago. . What does that have to do with vegan/non vegan question? They want us to believe non-vegan folks don't eat grain fed animals?? I agree with you, it's about least harm, not their ridiculousness. Love your math. Today, on my BIL's large grain farm -- they use combines that each cost way more than the average U.S. home. They harvest a field very fast, in late summer or fall, when most baby deer are older and run away. I never knew a farmer or rancher - then or now - who enjoyed killing or harming animals for no reason. Also, let's get real. if a farm worker was stupid enough to blindly run into animals with a million dollar combine -- that fool would get fired fast. Equipment downtime for repairs is not good. There are so many different types of agriculture in this world. I get really tired of non-farmers making sweeping statements about what farmers or ranchers do, how they think, what their culture says, their education or ethics. We need more compassion in our thinking about ethical living. Producers and consumers are not from alien planets.
I have worked on a huge farm in the past. I operated harvesting machines and worked with farmers who had harvested for decades. I asked one of them about this argument at the time and he said he had never knowingly killed an animal during harvest.
What she said about soy milk at 1:12 is so wrong plus so hypocritical to say literally right after saying not to make fun of people's culture. Soy milk has been a thing in Asia for thousands of years, for her to say it is some "new junk food" is making fun of Asian culture
Carnivore people recommend eating offal often for the vitamin content. (Carnivores clai9m not to need food supplements whilst ignoring the scientific recommendation of eating Phyto-nutrients) However it is dangerous to eat the livers of carnivorous mammals. Also the Chinese boil dogs alive in a festival of eating them.That is a tradition we can do without: I have signed a petition against it. @@TonyMyth
@@TonyMyth Actually... eating Dogs is a much recent "tradition"... and its practiced only by a small fraction of Asian people! The traditional diet of China and Koreea consists in vegetables, greens, fruits and soy beans prepared as tofu or as soy milk... and with very small ammounts of oils and meat! There is no tradition in Asian countries like China and Koreea to drink cow milk and to eat cheese made from mamal glands secretions! Dog meat and monkey brain are just weirdo delicatesse... served by a very small fraction of Asian people! When I visited China... about 20 years ago, a chinese guy told me that they eat everything which moves... therefore there is literally not much wild animals living in their forests... but, again... this weirdo tradition is only practiced by a small fraction of their population... so its not really part of their traditional diet!
I heard a wonderful quote recently that knocks the whole “cultural” argument into the stratosphere for me. It was “Traditions are just peer pressure from dead people”.
Or, traditions are the wisdom from many generations. You're free to ignore them, or you can consider them. Don't simply dismiss as "peer pressure" ... that's silly.
@@chiclettIf someone's culture included cannibalism would you defend continuing doing it? How about female genital mutilation? Do we need to respect that too, and let our young children whose family wants to send them to their home countries for this? Culture doesn't trump logic or humanity.
Soymilk was introduced in Tetrapaks in the US market in 1980, when Lierre Keith would have been about 16. Edited to add: Soya Textured Vegetable Protein was available in health food shops in the 1970s. Lierre had clearly not learnt how to shop.
Or learned that there really is no need for soy milk at all, it's perfectly fine to just eat vegetables, fruits and other starches (including beans that are not soy).
@@bunkaaa8726 She claims to have identified as a vegan (despite the egg and dairy binges) for twenty years, presumably after she was 16. I was shopping for my mum by myself at 10 and often popped into the Seventh Day Adventist health food store for snacks after school. Shopping isn't rocket surgery.
It's quite a double standard, they're probably quick to criticize Indian culture for promoting vegetarianism but yet they'll put culture on a pedestal when meat including that of pet animals becomes a topic.
@@cliveargyle5237 No it doesn't have the highest rate of diabetes which is also something that's partially genetic and the driver of lacto-ovo vegetarianism among Indians is it's influence from Hinduism and this means they consume a lot of dairy products especially in processed forms like ghee and cheese for the Indians particularly. India also appears to be a constantly selected example keto ideologues like to flock to to represent plant based diets because it's the only bad example they can get ahold of, India is a crowded and polluted developing country where the population is highly reliant on white rice and dairy products as a source of calories, so it's diet is not something that would be favored by any group of experts. The population with the highest rate of vegans as well as pescatarians in the world happens to be Loma Linda and they simultaneously have the highest life expectancy globally.
@@davfar459 your forget how much sugar and fried food they eat, which is a diabetic bomb. Diabetes is so bad in India that mothers pass it on to their own new borns. And yes diabetes 2 and 3 is 100% man made. We're now living in an age where it's believed that 60% of the worlds population is pre diabetic. Processed food/junk, man made ingredients/sugars, seed oils, high grain diets, are the cause. And yes India has the highest diabetes globally. Keep kidding yourself, but you can't out run a poor diet. Been there.
Jokes on her, i was depressed and felt gross mentally BEFORE i relied on broccoli and tofu to fuel gains. Not only that, but my mental health improved greatly AFTER i started eating only plants
I went through a depression related to my personal life but I ate fruits and other fresh stuff and looking in the mirror realized how young and blissful I look without any trace of depression. It was only me aware of my depression in the public.
I'm torn between believing that these people are genuinely this dumb/crazy and believing that they follow WC Fields' strategy - 'You can fool some of the people some of the time -- and that's enough to make a decent living.'
Look at the subs Ken Berry has, that's a lot of people that just want to listen to what they want to hear. I'd rather listen to dr. John mc Dougall who goes over the most recent scientific findings each week and dr. Peter Rogers who does a stellar job at explaining all the biochemistry behind the current findings.
Great quote, very relevant. Whenever I see a so called doctor prostituting themselves for some nonsense cause I wonder are they such a poor scientist they can’t make a good living or are they greedy. Sometimes you learn the truth. Judith Curry, now climate change denier, was a third rate vulcanologist struggling to get any funding. You don’t need to listen to Ken Berry for very long to realise he is not very bright, how he got MD after his name is a mystery, can you buy a certificate?
Mike! Remember the interview where Lierre said that when she was vegan she “binged on eggs and dairy every chance I got”… would have been hilarious to sneak that clip in here and there. Maybe all the eggs and dairy have her insulin resistance and caused crashes??? Gosh who would have thought?!
She didn't mention the chocolate cakes. Though she does mention apple juice, she probably ate a lot of fruit as snacks ratther than eating proper meals.
@@pattheplanter Is that a crack at high-fruit eaters? I've been eating fruit-breakfasts for 29 years. Also vegan 29 years. I got all you SAD vegans beat.
@@pattheplanter whole fruit does not cause blood sugar insulin issues/diabetes, etc. It actually reverses it, study Robbie and Cyrus of mastering diabetes It's the high fat foods that clog the cells, high sugar only fuels the fire Must keep fat intake around 5 to 15 g max per meal
@@pattheplanter Walter Kempner was curing people in the 1940's with his rice diet of white rice, fruit juice and table sugar. Fruits are perfectly alright, but it's very hard for most of us to be able to buy enough of these to meet our calorie goals, that's where starches come in. Fat and protein are the nutrients that should be kept on the low side.
Farm animals are almost always fattened for slaughter using crops like corn and soy. 77% of soy is used as farm animal feed. Only 7% of soy is consumed directly by humans. We now feed a lot more calories and even protein to farm animals than people get from eating the edible parts of them! Google "feed conversion ratios." Pasture fed and finished cows are a tiny percent of the meat sold, and that beef is even worse for land use and climate change than conventionally produced beef.
@@82KW82 being vegan is a selfless action, we don't need to justify anything. It would be much more convenient for us to keep eating tasty animal foods while telling ourselves "I need the protein" "it's what lions do" and sht like that. Mic also provided at least 25 studies in this video alone, one for each of his claims. I don't see where you're coming from
I would love to take a look at all of the high quality long term interventional studies proving the whole food plant based diet is healthier than whole food meat based diet. Overall mortality, mental health outcomes, number of heart attacks, longevity, etc. I am completely unaware that there were any interventional studies demonstrating any ill effects of consuming ONLY unprocessed meat. Not comparing people who smoke and drink and eat pizza with meat on it. That’s not a carnivore diet.
The whole vegan kill animals too argument is so dumb. I know idiots that spout this nonsense understand necessity and intent are extremely important when analyzing ethics. There's a big difference between unintentionally driving over an animal that wanders into the road and purposely going out of your way to drive over it. No one would fault the person in the first scenario for the animal's death. The same is true for crop deaths. It's not my fault that animals can wander into crops and can die as a result. That's on the animal. That's completely different than paying someone to habitually breed, torture, and kill animals because they delusionally believe that tofu is going to kill them.
The longest-lived healthiest people in the world all eat primarily plants. The data we have, shows that properly planned vegan diets are STRONGLY associated with good health outcomes. If plants were bad for us, we'd be seeing it in the data; but we DON'T see that. We see the opposite of that. Additionally, we see people who make 2 - 3 servings of traditional soy products like tofu and tempeh, having health benefits from that, too. So.... _le sighhh...._ these two (and all carnivore proponents) are the nutrition equivalent of flat earthers. They get to say whatever hyper-confident nonsense they want, regardless of what the facts actually show to be the truth, and no amount of evidence will sway them. What will happen is, they will be thinned out with the brutally unfeeling Darwinian forces they've invited into their lives.
You didn't provide any science or any names of real people just your opinion. You should only get diet advice from a real Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry with awards and honors and or a Nobel Prize with a long term track record of being right such as Roger J. Williams, Frederick Gowland Hopkins, Fred Kummerow, George H. Whipple, William Parry Murphy, Edward Adelbert Doisy. All 6 would say that meat, poultry, fish and eggs are good for you in moderation and that dairy is ok in small amounts if you like it and are not allergic to it but a human is an omnivore and they should still consume a balanced diet in the basic food groups.
@@StanDupp6371 They are ok in moderation (once a week), but most people don't eat these in moderation, excess leucine, methionine and lysine have been shown to be tumor promoters due to them turning on mtor and igf1. Eating animal products isn't ok in moderation for the planet, 80% of the rain forest is being cut down for cattle farming, and eating in moderation is also not good for the animals, the wild ones because they have to give up their land for our cattle and our cattle that doesn't want to be brought into this world just to be abused and slaughtered. Also Otto Warburg has had a nobel prize and he has shown that cancer often initiates due to tissue hypoxia (damage to the mitochondria), this is due to fat. Animal products next to their excess in protein also have an excess in fat.
@@richardbeaumont7960 Yes, the older generation of Hongkong Chinese, but they didn't eat so much meat. The current generation does, let's talk again in 20 years.
I have been trained in Traditional Chinese Diet. It definitely does not recommend lots of meat. There is a balance of ingredients (lots of plants) based around the central staple of carbohydrate. @@11235Aodh
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I don't know how they actually think they look healthier than vegetarians and vegans, or even flexitarians. The more meat they eat the more congested their complexions and the duller their eyes appear. I can pick a heavy meat eater at a glance.
They also had TVP back then. These people don't care about facts - they are selling a story....... Dilbert: But you have no proof. Dogbert: Oh, I have something much better than proof. Anecdotal evidence! Dogbert: Who do you think would be dumb enough to believe anecdotal evidence? Carnivore dieters? Low carb dieters? People who think we all need more protein and also that gluten (a type of protein) is really bad for everybody.
They had soy milk in pint-sized plastic containers at Ralphs (a California supermarket monopoly) in the late 1980's, early 1990's. These two are coo coo for cocoa puffs. Seriously.
I feel sorry for you. Genuinely. I used to be plant based. Thank goodness I found the light am eating lots of red meat now. So much more energy, no bloating, no fatigue, and I cured my eczema.
@@estherruth4692 no you didn't, I feel sorry for your illnesses you will get far sooner than you should, but I will not feel too bad for you seeing as you will still pay to have abused and killed innocent animals.
@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN You should only get diet advice from a real Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry with awards and honors and or a Nobel Prize with a long term track record of being right such as Roger J. Williams, Frederick Gowland Hopkins, Fred Kummerow, George H. Whipple, William Parry Murphy, Edward Adelbert Doisy. All 6 would say that meat, poultry, fish and eggs are good for you in moderation and that dairy is ok in small amounts if you like it and are not allergic to it but a human is an omnivore and they should still consume a balanced diet in the basic food groups.
That woman is like a bad penny, good Lord! I distinctly remember seeing soy milk "in containers" and tinned Loma Linda Foods products at my local hippy drippy crunchy granola health food store as a child in the _1970s._ This is proof these "carnivore" doctors have no real counterargument to veganism. Thanks for putting yourself through watching this to inform us of what these fringe nutrition preachers are saying!
That's the 1 point that they are right with, oils are bad for us. Especially for our cells, fat blocks the 3rd proton pump of our mitochondria making the electron transport back up. With enough fat the mitochondria will just give up (at 35% mitochondrial damage the cell will die).
I find Lierre hilarious because of how delusional she is, and ignorant....not like she's the first or the last. Her way of eating was clearly beyond awful, calorie restricted and basically brainwashed herself into believing a vegan diet was to blame..when it was just her diet in general, and maybe underlying health issues. Heard this story so many times by now, it's practically comedy. One thing i can agree very strongly on - the dopamine kicks after eating something calorie dense, fish, meat in case of the ''ex-vegans''...the sensation can really fool you. Funny thing is, you can get it from plant foods just the same...no need for animal corpses. Greasy, oily/fatty foods achieve that well...even if not the healthiest, like pan fried potatoes with tofu, that will hit those same pleasure sensors.
Why are these very conservative, culture over science positions always either "ignore problem as long as possible" and then "finding a solution is futile, we should give up and do the exact opposite"?
They are paid by Industry. Beef Industry alone has a surveillance department for vegan Videos and other media. Yes stupidly exists but most if the meat heads are paid.
Seeing someone who supposedly studied to become a doctor being a nodding yesman to "plants are as sentient as we are" is golden hilariously stupid content. 😂
On the slug topic. Some gardeners use decoy or trap plants that will get placed near their garden to pull some of the problem bugs towards the decoy plants and away from the plants they don’t want the bugs to eat. So for instance chervil can be used as a decoy for slug control. You can put your decoy plants in pots and move them around.
I’m the opposite of sad, angry, and depressed. Was typing this right before you showed the studies lol. I am the Happiest and most at peace I’ve ever been. Raw vegan here.
It’s funny how Doc Berry thinks we should be sensitive to cultures that eat canine meat but somehow insensitive to cultures or belief systems - like Hindu or Adventist Christians or Theosophists - that either eliminate or minimize animal deaths. Shouldn’t they be respected too? I always liked the way many theosophical and far Eastern philosophies use the scientific hypothesis about how the more COMPLEX the nervous system is, the more likely the creature is sentient and aware and can feel pain etc. Thus an amoeba is less sensitive than a doggie, and both are more sensitive than a brick . . . or a Nazi! Then there is the division of the universe into mineral, vegetable, animal and human kingdoms - which is “farm out” 😂
Her comment about stopping menstruation being “good” in the vegan community tells you all you need to know about the extreme fringe “veganism” she was involved in. Not to mention the anxiety, depression and “psychic torment”!! My armchair interpretation: it almost sounds like she was in a cult that operated under the guise of veganism (with extreme diet claims!). Girl no wonder you felt better once you left.
What you describe is one possibility. Another possibility is that guilt is driving a need in her to just insult vegans, to the point she doesn’t even recognise when she is doing it. A third possibility is that it’s all deliberate, just to pump out endless content to a guffawing crowd of hypnotised meat eaters. I rate the third possibility highest because the meat industry is definitely trying to generate a cult following of activists who produce endless noise to drown out the science, environmental, ethical and health messages they don’t want to get through.
Soy has been really good for me at least, both as milk and tofu, for 15 years now. I had thyroid problems before that. No sign of it throughout this time. Certainly not saying it cured it, but it didn't make my health worse, at all.
She's also lying about something - though maybe not deliberately. We definitely *did* have "... those "weird" soy analogue/ "fake" meat things ..". Maybe not in the early 1980s, I wouldn't know about then because I wasn't doing any of my own grocery shopping yet. But, by the time I was a senior in high school, we definitely had such things & that was 1988 - 1989. "MorningStar Farms" was already a thing then, and they had soy burgers, soy "chik'" patties, meatless sausage links, meatless "breakfast strips" (meatless bacon), and meatless sausage patties. Soymilks were also available in the septic/ shelf-stable packaging. The main soymilk brand was "Soy Moo". These were all available in most of our mainstream grocery stores. Plus, tofu & tempeh had been readily available since at least the late seventies. The soy burgers, soy milks, soy sausages, etc. simply weren't quite so prolific back then. There were just fewer brands, and they weren't so popular compared to today. 🤷🏻♀️💜🌱💜🤷🏼♂️
I remember meat substitutes in the 1970s: it was in tins and I think it is the Granose label. Granose still make Mock Duck which is a traditional meat substitute from Zen Buddhist Monasteries. Although Veganism is new (at least back to the 1930s) vegetarianism is ancient.
If she was telling the truth, she would know that these things like TVP and soy milk existed 40 years ago. But she just creates a bogus history of herself to fit the narrative which fits her "cash for comment" to receive kickbacks from the Animal Ag industry.
Right so insulting dog eaters is insensitive but calling soy milk weird is okay? (Even though soy milk has been around in many cultures for hundreds of years) jokers! 😂
@@goku445 And Baker just admitted to Bariatric planter Garth Davis that he doesn't have any scientific data to back his fairy tales. But hey, children like fairy tales right? He's the Pied Piper of Nutrition.
? My whole food plant diet is what stopped my blood sugar crashes. I focus on eating enough calories and calorie dense foods like farrow and oats and brown rice and raw nuts.
@@GarudaLegends Exercise is not a whole food, but it's still healthy. Good relationships are not whole foods, but they are very healthy. B12 is not a whole food, but it is a necessary supplement. You may require other supplements, see your Dr to get tests to find out. Many people need hormone D pills, but I live in the south and can get enough sunshine year round.
One more thought. If you really feel that being vegan is truly a bad idea, then eat a whole foods plant based nonvegan diet. But to go hard over to a carnivore diet is pure madness, on many different levels.
@@peter5.056 i did. It is a fact the vegan diet is unhealthy. Their is no evidence the carnivore diet is unhealthy. That is why i would never eat an unhealthy vegan diet, bzmut would eat a carnivore. Also vegan meals suck.
If we evolved by eating meat then why can we still make vitamin A, cholesterol, and omega 3 from plant sources? One of the rules of evolution is: that which is used gets stronger, that which is not used wastes away. So if early humans were getting an abundance of these nutrients preformed from animal sources, we should have lost the ability to make them ourselves? Just like we lost the ability to make vitamin C because we were getting all we needed from fruits and vegetables.
@@GarudaLegends Look at all the vitamins that are sold. There are not many vegans. So who do you think is buying all the millions of supplements? Walmart has a complete aisle of just vitamins. Do you think that all vegans shop at walmart? All vegans need is vitamin B12. They give farm animals B12 supplements. So you are still getting B12 supplements just second hand.
@@abidd so then you admit vegans are deficient. Lol. I dont need any supplements like you vegans. This us why gumans are meat eaters and not silly vegans. Meat eaters have the highest life expectancy by and meat eaters also live to be vasly old than vegans. The oldest ppl to live were meat eaters, and a few vegetarians. Not a single vegan came close to being the oldest in age. Lay off the supplements and eat some meat. You will live longer.
@@abidd also no such thing as second hand supplements. ROTF. Meat is not supplemented. I love when vegans pretend they are healthy when they are unhealthy drug addict.
@@GarudaLegends You are not even smart enough to talk to. Google "supplements for farm animals" which you should have done before you made such dumb statements!
Meanwhile this channel has 303k subs, dr. John mcDougall has close to 200k and dr. Peter Rogers maybe has 3k...and someone like Ken Berry has a couple million. Not too much faith in the future but trying to stay positive and help change for the better.
I never ceased to be amazed at how militant people can become when promoting the stupidity of pseudoscience. Thanks, Mic, for watching these crazy videos so we don’t have to!!
17:58 😂 What!? I have never been suicidal but I have struggle with anxiety my whole life and I'm feeling either the same OR sometimes better since going vegan! I have some ups and downs but that's normal. In NO way has veganism made my mental health worse. 🤦♀️
These people are infuriating. 😡 Such mental gymnastics and pseudoscience! The eating eggs and then waking up with better skin made me laugh out loud. If plants are as sentient as animals we would have PTSD after mowing the lawn or pruning the roses! Well done, Mic. ❤
Great reply! I think they look bad. He is 55, and he already has nasolabial folds. His skin is red like he has high blood pressure. She aged a lot in 6 years. Her jawline is drooping and her neck is looking bad. On the other hand, Mike did not age at all compared to the video from 6 years ago. Mike actually looks younger. If they are going to attack vegans on the basis of looks, they will lose.
"Mike did not age at all compared to the video from 6 years ago" Same with me. 11 years of videos, and I hardly notice a difference. I'm also 55 and have done comparisons with Berg(57) and Baker(56). They're looking rough and aged while I hardly have wrinkles.
@@GaryHighFruit I also get compliments about looking young. Of course, I use the opportunity to promote vegan diet. George Bernard Shaw had a great reply when he got a compliment about looking young: “I don’t. I look my age; and I am my age. It is the other people who look older than they are. What can you expect from people who eat corpses and drink spirits?”
@@GaryHighFruit I will check out your channel. George Bernard Shaw had a great reply when someone gave him a compliment about looking young: “I don’t. I look my age; and I am my age. It is the other people who look older than they are. What can you expect from people who eat corpses and drink spirits?”
@@haircafekevin Dr. Greger is in his 50’s, and he doesn’t have nasolabial folds, but so is Hench Herbivore, and he has them. Cleveland Clinic says, How to reduce the risk of nasolabial folds: “Eat a healthy diet and get plenty of exercise and sleep. The healthier you are, the healthier your skin will be. … Don’t work on your tan with the sun or tanning beds.” Hench Herbivore is not eating the healthiest diet. He puts tons of protein powder in everything. Even Dr. Greger told him to stop doing that, but he doesn’t listen. He also looks way too dark for a white guy, so I suspect he is into tanning. So there are ways to prevent nasolabial folds, but if all fails, there are now cosmetic procedures to get rid of them.
This is the most craziest thing ever...who listens to people that sounds just stupid....I love watching you because you slap them in the face with real facts ...not opinions 😊😊
I think she is right about hunter-gatherer (or maybe hunter-gardener) lifestyle being the least destructive, if low population density is maintained. And that high population density causes all kinds of problems. But I think that, in the context of the current world that those of us using computers are in, plant based is the way to go to minimize impact.
Hey bro thanks for the shout out! I have been vegan 16 years now. I love spreading the word that people can build an epic physique on a plant based diet without protein powders and with minimal but quality calisthenics! I do less than 2 hours per week ;).
I'm on the same path, even temporarily going to try the Walter Kempner diet (moderated a bit, more fruit instead of fruit juice and more variety in starches) and going low on protein while building muscle (48F, so technically i should just wither away and not build any muscle at all so say some..).
@@diamondk67 You have meat and dairy industry propaganda dog...shit on your side and not real science... don't kid yourself! Type two diabetes is afecting about 60% of the americans who are eating SAD diet... which consist mostly in ANIMAL PROTEIN and ANIMAL FAT... animal protein... particularly the Cazein which is present in DAIRY is responsible for type 1 diabetes... for those who are allergic to cazein... and ANIMAL FAT is the one responsable for DIABETES and not necessarily the refined sugar... which is not a real /natural food anyway... but when you combine animal fat with sugar ... which is the case for the VAST MAJORITY of cookies/cakes/chocolate/sweets... then you have the sugar as the TROJAN HORSE used for the ANIMAL FAT to enter and saturate your cell muscle... and therefore to become insuline rezistant... hence type 2 diabetes! Actually you can cure type 2 diabetes with RICE and table SUGAR diet made by doctor Walter Kempner at Duke University in 1939... here are some info about his RICE DIET extracted from NutritionFacts.org : In 1939, Dr. Walter Kempner, a Duke University Professor Emeritus of Medicine, introduced the first diet-based program to treat “malignant” hypertension and kidney failure. Called the rice diet, it consisted of rice, sugar, fruit, and fruit juices, providing 25 grams of protein in a 2,400 calorie a day diet, with reduced sodium, no animal fat, no animal protein, and no cholesterol. Initially, sugar was used as an additional source of calories so that people would not lose too much weight. He had hoped the diet would stop the progression of the disease. Results of the Rice Diet on High Blood Pressure While at Duke, Dr. Kempner treated more than 18,000 patients with his rice diet. Patients entered the program with blood pressure readings of 210/140 and left with readings down to 80/60. The disease reversed in two-thirds of the patients: reversal of heart failure, eye damage, and kidney failure. Patients often gradually transitioned to a less restrictive diet without their high blood pressure returning and without added medications. Results of the Rice Diet on Obesity Dr. Kempner’s rice diet showed that morbidly obese people could achieve significant weight loss without hospitalization, surgery, or drugs. He treated his overweight patients with a lower calorie version of the diet. The average weight loss among 106 patients was 141 pounds. Results of the Rice Diet on Diabetes Although Kempner assumed that his 90 percent carbohydrate rice diet would make diabetes worse, after treating 100 people with diabetes with the rice diet for at least three months, he found that their fasting blood sugar levels dropped, despite a reduction in the insulin they were taking. Surprisingly, 30 percent of the patients had a reversal of diabetic retinopathy.
@@diamondk67 and the Earth is flat and only 5000years old and Donald Trump is still President and Atlantis is in my swimming pool....with Elvis living there. (in scuba gear, of course)
I’m a market gardener and I relocate slugs from my garden and what she doesn’t realize is that slugs do not require human gardens to live; they eat algae, animal feces, carrion, centipedes, fungi, green plants, insects, lichens, worms…So, unless she was moving the slugs to a concrete parking lot, she wasn’t affecting the slugs. Her lack of awareness is amazing.
The auto transcription for closed caption spells her name Liar, they must be using AI now for that accurate of an interpretation or it's just a very interesting and precise interpretive mistake. Thanks so much for doing this video! I've been wanting to watch it since it released and just now getting around to it, love everything you do so much!
Yes, and the main point is, if they are advocating against eating plants because of that reason well then by default, they definitely are advocating against eating animals because of their higher sentience level, so what are they going to eat??
Yes, 80% of the rainforest is being destroyed for cattle farming and you complain that the apple tree is missing it's apples or how we shouldn't eat broccoli?
Yep. I've followed the vegan community & politics for a long time, and I've noticed that anti-vegans are all right-wingers. I also think being anti-vegan is a political thing, and that carnivore diet isn't real. It's just a political tool to throw chaos into the vegan movement. I have many videos on this.
What do people have against soy lecithin? I'm genuinely asking. I grew up taking lecithin before and during exam season as it was highly recommended "to boost brain activity". Never actually researched this one as it was such a prevalent "known fact" that I am only now starting to even question it. So, what is "wrong" with lecithin?
I want to add a couple late points here, firstly that Lierre's WoLF organization that I referred to as "feminist" (after I quick Google) appears to be an anti-trans focused organization as some of you have pointed out. The ACLU has apparently even challenged its claim of being feminist at all as have other feminist organizations describing it as "discriminatory right-wing ideology under the guise of feminism". I actually see this authoritarian oppression of trans people as right in line with her ideologies around animals. I still stand by how someone who views themselves as a feminist like Lierre should be interested in how female animals are treated.
Secondly, as many of you have mentioned, Ken is very defensive of dog eating cultures but sits by and nods as soy, a classic staple across many Asian cultures, is reamed into the ground repeatedly by Lierre.
Really appreciate this clarification on WoLF and Lierre! 💚🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
Thanks. She is one of the original TERFs.
how can an animal be 'female' if biological sex doesnt exist (which is what trans ideology pushes)? feminist organisations that oppose transgender ideology are not right wing, theyre left wing that set out to defend the rights of human females, and not males. also if you google something and then go 'well the ACLU told us it must be true so therefore it is', youre not quite as objective as id hoped. women deserve the right to defend their sex class regardless of their other political beliefs. it has nothing to do with the conversation and only seeks to portray her in a bad light, which her views on animals should already be doing.
I appreciate your defense of trans people here. Truly.
Why is it when I comment that she's a TERF, it disappears?
I'm from Southeast Asia, and there are cultures that eat dogs but even their younger generations are eating less and less dogs. Also the number of vegans and vegetarians are growing, vegetarians are traditionally seen as a religious devotion among some Buddhists/Taoists/hindus are now seen as more mainstream and acceptable in the larger society.
True you rarely see dog meat at the market anymore it has to be ordered. The problem is during lunar new year (traditional dog eating season). The problem is they roam around at night and steal family dogs. They got our family dog and the neighbours this year and we miss him so much rip. I hate lunar new year😢
@@joeludemann I'm sorry to hear that. I hope more can be done by the community to not let dogs be eaten as exotic meat.
Veganism has more ppl leaving than joining. Veganism is a fad.
@GarudaLegends oh the trolls are here. HELLO 😂
@@GarudaLegends eating plant based is necessary if you care abt your health, animal welfare & the environment. The current factory farming & overfishing system is unsustainable and are terrible for your health.
I’m 41 years old and I remember a (fellow, though more affluent) lactose intolerant classmate having an Eden Soy “drink box” when I was in 5th grade… what was that? 1991? We’re not dead. I’m not dead.
Exactly. They've been around a long time. And babies who have problems with human milk or cow-milk-based infant formula thrive with soy-based infant formula.
@@carl13579I was on soy formula as an infant, and look at me now- I’ve been vegan for 15 years, strength train, and have a PhD. I’m thinking soy can’t be too detrimental.
I was raised on my mother’s milk, and then soya and rice milk. Cow milk (even a small amount, or anything made from it, even butter) caused me to be in excruciating pain. I don’t think I’ve had a full glass of straight up cow milk in my life. I’m still alive and kicking. Also, I remember those milk boxes! Eden Soy was our brand growing up!
@AllisonMariePhD exactly. This spy rubbish argument. Tbvh, it wouldn't surprise me that they are sponsored by big animal agriculture. Look at it this way, if Chris Mckaskill from the fantastic TH-cam channel "Plant Chompers", told folks he'd been approached by companies, then I'm sure these two clowns have.
Plant Chompers is fab.
@homie3461 #soyfacts
“Baby deer end up in the combine” They don’t know anything about farming because most crops are harvested in fall when there are no baby deer. I have heard of many cases of baby deer getting killed during hay bailing season which is about the time baby deer hide and freeze. Pretty sure hay is used to feed the cows to feed the humans.
Damn, good point.
Yeah making suc claims as if they've been working there and know exactly what happens. Appealing to confidence = truth fallacy. Ppl think whatever they say confidently ppl will believe just because they sound confident
My father farmed wheat his entire life and never once killed a baby dear with the combine...that’s an insane suggestion. I’m sure it happens rarely, but farmers take every care to avoid killing wild animals in their fields.
Having also lived on a farm, I knew that when we walked through a field any fauna in there would of course hear you and bolt. So how much earlier do you think they would run away when a 100 decibel combine harvester heads their way?
Not all farmers are the same. They're talking about HUGE farms, not grandpa's farm...
Tiny baby deer will hide and not move. So, our small grain / mixed dairy farm equipment did surprise one -- as I recall from over 50 years ago. . What does that have to do with vegan/non vegan question? They want us to believe non-vegan folks don't eat grain fed animals?? I agree with you, it's about least harm, not their ridiculousness. Love your math.
Today, on my BIL's large grain farm -- they use combines that each cost way more than the average U.S. home. They harvest a field very fast, in late summer or fall, when most baby deer are older and run away.
I never knew a farmer or rancher - then or now - who enjoyed killing or harming animals for no reason. Also, let's get real. if a farm worker was stupid enough to blindly run into animals with a million dollar combine -- that fool would get fired fast. Equipment downtime for repairs is not good.
There are so many different types of agriculture in this world. I get really tired of non-farmers making sweeping statements about what farmers or ranchers do, how they think, what their culture says, their education or ethics. We need more compassion in our thinking about ethical living. Producers and consumers are not from alien planets.
@@HIGHLANDER_ONLY_ONEyou really going with the crop deaths argument? He addressed it.
I have worked on a huge farm in the past. I operated harvesting machines and worked with farmers who had harvested for decades. I asked one of them about this argument at the time and he said he had never knowingly killed an animal during harvest.
What she said about soy milk at 1:12 is so wrong plus so hypocritical to say literally right after saying not to make fun of people's culture. Soy milk has been a thing in Asia for thousands of years, for her to say it is some "new junk food" is making fun of Asian culture
Yet you mock eating dogs which is the same thing.
Carnivore people recommend eating offal often for the vitamin content. (Carnivores clai9m not to need food supplements whilst ignoring the scientific recommendation of eating Phyto-nutrients) However it is dangerous to eat the livers of carnivorous mammals. Also the Chinese boil dogs alive in a festival of eating them.That is a tradition we can do without: I have signed a petition against it. @@TonyMyth
@@TonyMyth Actually... eating Dogs is a much recent "tradition"... and its practiced only by a small fraction of Asian people!
The traditional diet of China and Koreea consists in vegetables, greens, fruits and soy beans prepared as tofu or as soy milk... and with very small ammounts of oils and meat!
There is no tradition in Asian countries like China and Koreea to drink cow milk and to eat cheese made from mamal glands secretions!
Dog meat and monkey brain are just weirdo delicatesse... served by a very small fraction of Asian people!
When I visited China... about 20 years ago, a chinese guy told me that they eat everything which moves... therefore there is literally not much wild animals living in their forests...
but, again... this weirdo tradition is only practiced by a small fraction of their population... so its not really part of their traditional diet!
@@TonyMythI don't care about tradition in either case. We're here now, identities and heritage is nonsense.
@@TonyMyth when did I ever mock eating dogs
I heard a wonderful quote recently that knocks the whole “cultural” argument into the stratosphere for me. It was “Traditions are just peer pressure from dead people”.
Or, traditions are the wisdom from many generations. You're free to ignore them, or you can consider them. Don't simply dismiss as "peer pressure" ... that's silly.
@@604jroe fully debunked wisdom of many traditions, so is just peer pressure from the dead.
When she said "it would have killed me sooner" makes it seem as though she is dead rn😂
I caught that xD She's "dead inside"
Right! She does not look like the picture of health.
She looks dead inside.
I figured she WAS dead. Dead from stupidity.
I know! lol
Defending the dog meat trade? Have you seen what they do to those poor dogs. Screw this guy.
Absolutely disgusting! I'm not religious but I can only think of one word for this guy, demonic!
he wasn't defending it
@@diamondk67Yes, he was. Do you have trouble hearing?
@@chiclett I do not respect people who eat dogs, or animals, I’m sure that includes you!
@@chiclettIf someone's culture included cannibalism would you defend continuing doing it? How about female genital mutilation? Do we need to respect that too, and let our young children whose family wants to send them to their home countries for this? Culture doesn't trump logic or humanity.
She confuses orthorexia with veganism. I hope the sound bite of his dog meat tout goes viral.
"Don't make fun of other cultures" "criticizes soymilk"
fr 😂
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'Being anti-dog meat is racist'- it doesn't get any more strawman than that....
soymilk is poison so it is fair game
It is junk food .. and terribly bad for you.
Soymilk was introduced in Tetrapaks in the US market in 1980, when Lierre Keith would have been about 16. Edited to add: Soya Textured Vegetable Protein was available in health food shops in the 1970s. Lierre had clearly not learnt how to shop.
...at 16 years old?
Or learned that there really is no need for soy milk at all, it's perfectly fine to just eat vegetables, fruits and other starches (including beans that are not soy).
Yeah theres a lot of very basic stuff that she seems unable to understand... 😂
@@bunkaaa8726 I moved out of home at 16 so yeah, I learnt to shop at 16.
@@bunkaaa8726 She claims to have identified as a vegan (despite the egg and dairy binges) for twenty years, presumably after she was 16. I was shopping for my mum by myself at 10 and often popped into the Seventh Day Adventist health food store for snacks after school. Shopping isn't rocket surgery.
We had tvp in the 80’s and I bought Westsoy soy milk in.carton. Now back in the 60s, my parents did make soy milk in a blender.
Gender bender in a blender !!
Your parents sound rad
Back then you already had evolving parents
It's quite a double standard, they're probably quick to criticize Indian culture for promoting vegetarianism but yet they'll put culture on a pedestal when meat including that of pet animals becomes a topic.
Grifters will say any oxymoronic shit just to get their renumeration from their puppetmasters (Animal Agriculture)
Poverty is the drive India for vegan diet and India has the highest diabetics globally.
@@cliveargyle5237 No it doesn't have the highest rate of diabetes which is also something that's partially genetic and the driver of lacto-ovo vegetarianism among Indians is it's influence from Hinduism and this means they consume a lot of dairy products especially in processed forms like ghee and cheese for the Indians particularly.
India also appears to be a constantly selected example keto ideologues like to flock to to represent plant based diets because it's the only bad example they can get ahold of, India is a crowded and polluted developing country where the population is highly reliant on white rice and dairy products as a source of calories, so it's diet is not something that would be favored by any group of experts.
The population with the highest rate of vegans as well as pescatarians in the world happens to be Loma Linda and they simultaneously have the highest life expectancy globally.
@@davfar459 your forget how much sugar and fried food they eat, which is a diabetic bomb. Diabetes is so bad in India that mothers pass it on to their own new borns. And yes diabetes 2 and 3 is 100% man made. We're now living in an age where it's believed that 60% of the worlds population is pre diabetic. Processed food/junk, man made ingredients/sugars, seed oils, high grain diets, are the cause. And yes India has the highest diabetes globally. Keep kidding yourself, but you can't out run a poor diet. Been there.
"Soy in boxes would have killed me sooner." -- says a person who is alive and talking.
"But slugs though..."
"You say dog meat is a complete protein but I've found the most perfect complete protein"- Jeffrey Dahmer.
Omg noooo . You made that up tho or did he say that ?? 😅
Genuine question: why do carnivores always have that reddish shade to their skin? Excess iron consumption?
That's what I was thinking too.
Or just high blood pressure in general.
Something I have been noticing too btw
They are not too red, you guys are too pale 😅
@@estelabueno100 Looking sunburnt is not the median/normal face colour.
Jokes on her, i was depressed and felt gross mentally BEFORE i relied on broccoli and tofu to fuel gains. Not only that, but my mental health improved greatly AFTER i started eating only plants
Fairly decent science backs up your experience
Your cells get way more oxygen, it's no surprise you feel better (granted that you're not a high fat vegan but a whole foods plants one).
Same here
I went through a depression related to my personal life but I ate fruits and other fresh stuff and looking in the mirror realized how young and blissful I look without any trace of depression. It was only me aware of my depression in the public.
Her example of Redwoods; I've never heard of anyone eating Redwoods. But I have heard of forests being clear-cut to grow crops to feed livestock
Or clear-cutting to grow mangos, avocados and palm oil???
@@jamielivingston7765 75% of American crops are grown to feed farmed animals. 50% of farmland is used to farm animals.
I'm torn between believing that these people are genuinely this dumb/crazy and believing that they follow WC Fields' strategy - 'You can fool some of the people some of the time -- and that's enough to make a decent living.'
They can choose to look beyond but they don’t. They choose evil
they are not dumb, vegans are the dumb ones. Do you wonder why there has never been a surviving vegan culture in history? It is not healthy.
Look at the subs Ken Berry has, that's a lot of people that just want to listen to what they want to hear. I'd rather listen to dr. John mc Dougall who goes over the most recent scientific findings each week and dr. Peter Rogers who does a stellar job at explaining all the biochemistry behind the current findings.
Great quote, very relevant. Whenever I see a so called doctor prostituting themselves for some nonsense cause I wonder are they such a poor scientist they can’t make a good living or are they greedy. Sometimes you learn the truth. Judith Curry, now climate change denier, was a third rate vulcanologist struggling to get any funding. You don’t need to listen to Ken Berry for very long to realise he is not very bright, how he got MD after his name is a mystery, can you buy a certificate?
@@11235Aodhnope, we are actually listening to scientifically proven information and real provable results, unlike you poor vegans
Mike! Remember the interview where Lierre said that when she was vegan she “binged on eggs and dairy every chance I got”… would have been hilarious to sneak that clip in here and there. Maybe all the eggs and dairy have her insulin resistance and caused crashes??? Gosh who would have thought?!
She didn't mention the chocolate cakes. Though she does mention apple juice, she probably ate a lot of fruit as snacks ratther than eating proper meals.
@@pattheplanter Is that a crack at high-fruit eaters? I've been eating fruit-breakfasts for 29 years. Also vegan 29 years. I got all you SAD vegans beat.
@@pattheplanter whole fruit does not cause blood sugar insulin issues/diabetes, etc.
It actually reverses it, study Robbie and Cyrus of mastering diabetes
It's the high fat foods that clog the cells, high sugar only fuels the fire
Must keep fat intake around 5 to 15 g max per meal
@@pattheplanter Walter Kempner was curing people in the 1940's with his rice diet of white rice, fruit juice and table sugar. Fruits are perfectly alright, but it's very hard for most of us to be able to buy enough of these to meet our calorie goals, that's where starches come in. Fat and protein are the nutrients that should be kept on the low side.
I remembered something about that but didn't have time to dig it up, dang!
Farm animals are almost always fattened for slaughter using crops like corn and soy. 77% of soy is used as farm animal feed. Only 7% of soy is consumed directly by humans. We now feed a lot more calories and even protein to farm animals than people get from eating the edible parts of them! Google "feed conversion ratios." Pasture fed and finished cows are a tiny percent of the meat sold, and that beef is even worse for land use and climate change than conventionally produced beef.
Even grass fed beef are fed harvested hay and grass pellets during the winter and dry season
@@SSStofu008 Good to know. Thank you.
Good. I love meat.
@@GarudaLegends Dahmer loved the taste of human flesh. Is that good?
This is painful. If this is how people rationalise their actions we really are seriously phucked.
They don't care about evidence. They just need to justify their way of living
I think mony talks way louder than their habits
Sounds just like vegans.
@@82KW82 being vegan is a selfless action, we don't need to justify anything. It would be much more convenient for us to keep eating tasty animal foods while telling ourselves "I need the protein" "it's what lions do" and sht like that. Mic also provided at least 25 studies in this video alone, one for each of his claims. I don't see where you're coming from
@@82KW82 empty words
I would love to take a look at all of the high quality long term interventional studies proving the whole food plant based diet is healthier than whole food meat based diet. Overall mortality, mental health outcomes, number of heart attacks, longevity, etc. I am completely unaware that there were any interventional studies demonstrating any ill effects of consuming ONLY unprocessed meat. Not comparing people who smoke and drink and eat pizza with meat on it. That’s not a carnivore diet.
The whole vegan kill animals too argument is so dumb. I know idiots that spout this nonsense understand necessity and intent are extremely important when analyzing ethics. There's a big difference between unintentionally driving over an animal that wanders into the road and purposely going out of your way to drive over it. No one would fault the person in the first scenario for the animal's death. The same is true for crop deaths. It's not my fault that animals can wander into crops and can die as a result. That's on the animal. That's completely different than paying someone to habitually breed, torture, and kill animals because they delusionally believe that tofu is going to kill them.
Besides feeding these crops to animals to get back a fraction of the calories is just bad math all around.
You COULD choose to buy food that isn't factory farmed if you REALLY cared about the animals
@@jamielivingston7765the concern is that NO animal needs to be butchered for us to be healthy and happy. How they were raised is only part of it.
@@stacyhuss9454 yeah did you even read the comment I was replying to?
@@homie3461a giant combine, pesticides and herbicides vs a small organic farmer with a shovel.
How could anyone that owns/loves a dog still be a fan of Ken Berry after this video?
what an ignorant comment, he was just stating that some cultures eat dog
As long as it is not their dog, carnivores don't care.
Only ignorant, disassociated and or psychopathic continue eating animals, by definition
@@barbaraibiel clownivores* there's no such thing as a human carnivore.
@@Vegan_4The_Animals I don't know. That is kind of an insult to clowns.
The longest-lived healthiest people in the world all eat primarily plants. The data we have, shows that properly planned vegan diets are STRONGLY associated with good health outcomes. If plants were bad for us, we'd be seeing it in the data; but we DON'T see that. We see the opposite of that. Additionally, we see people who make 2 - 3 servings of traditional soy products like tofu and tempeh, having health benefits from that, too.
So.... _le sighhh...._ these two (and all carnivore proponents) are the nutrition equivalent of flat earthers. They get to say whatever hyper-confident nonsense they want, regardless of what the facts actually show to be the truth, and no amount of evidence will sway them. What will happen is, they will be thinned out with the brutally unfeeling Darwinian forces they've invited into their lives.
You didn't provide any science or any names of real people just your opinion. You should only get diet advice from a real Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry with awards and honors and or a Nobel Prize with a long term track record of being right such as Roger J. Williams, Frederick Gowland Hopkins, Fred Kummerow, George H. Whipple, William Parry Murphy, Edward Adelbert Doisy. All 6 would say that meat, poultry, fish and eggs are good for you in moderation and that dairy is ok in small amounts if you like it and are not allergic to it but a human is an omnivore and they should still consume a balanced diet in the basic food groups.
@@StanDupp6371 They are ok in moderation (once a week), but most people don't eat these in moderation, excess leucine, methionine and lysine have been shown to be tumor promoters due to them turning on mtor and igf1. Eating animal products isn't ok in moderation for the planet, 80% of the rain forest is being cut down for cattle farming, and eating in moderation is also not good for the animals, the wild ones because they have to give up their land for our cattle and our cattle that doesn't want to be brought into this world just to be abused and slaughtered. Also Otto Warburg has had a nobel prize and he has shown that cancer often initiates due to tissue hypoxia (damage to the mitochondria), this is due to fat. Animal products next to their excess in protein also have an excess in fat.
False. Longest lived people in the world today are the Hongkong Chinese, and they also have the highest rate of meat consumption in the world.
@@richardbeaumont7960 Yes, the older generation of Hongkong Chinese, but they didn't eat so much meat. The current generation does, let's talk again in 20 years.
I have been trained in Traditional Chinese Diet. It definitely does not recommend lots of meat. There is a balance of ingredients (lots of plants) based around the central staple of carbohydrate. @@11235Aodh
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I don't know how they actually think they look healthier than vegetarians and vegans, or even flexitarians. The more meat they eat the more congested their complexions and the duller their eyes appear. I can pick a heavy meat eater at a glance.
Vegans dont look healthy at all.
Look at the anemia looking Mick and you will get your awnser
"They didn't have soy milk in containers back then"
Uh, soy milk has been around for almost 2000 years
They also had TVP back then. These people don't care about facts - they are selling a story.......
Dilbert:
But you have no proof.
Dogbert:
Oh, I have something much better than proof. Anecdotal evidence!
Dogbert:
Who do you think would be dumb enough to believe anecdotal evidence?
Carnivore dieters? Low carb dieters? People who think we all need more protein and also that gluten (a type of protein) is really bad for everybody.
Introduced in Tetrapaks in the US and Europe in 1980.
@@pattheplanterso she is either against a beverage that's been around 2000 years or containers that hold liquid.
They had soy milk in pint-sized plastic containers at Ralphs (a California supermarket monopoly) in the late 1980's, early 1990's. These two are coo coo for cocoa puffs. Seriously.
😂 I know right...
Mic just shuts them down every time 💯
💥100% yes!
These two are directly harming humans with their crazy assertions.
Facts
Lies
They’ve helped me a lot, actually.
I feel sorry for you. Genuinely. I used to be plant based. Thank goodness I found the light am eating lots of red meat now. So much more energy, no bloating, no fatigue, and I cured my eczema.
@@estherruth4692 no you didn't, I feel sorry for your illnesses you will get far sooner than you should, but I will not feel too bad for you seeing as you will still pay to have abused and killed innocent animals.
Lierre: I was one of those healthy vegans.
Also Lierre: For breakfast we had granola with apples juice.
Right? Like no wonder she was having a sugar crash.
Someone calling themselves a "Carnivore doctor" should be the first sign that anything they say should be discredited.
It’s the most basic basic test when a so called doctor can’t assess our lfrugivorous anatomy
@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN You should only get diet advice from a real Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry with awards and honors and or a Nobel Prize with a long term track record of being right such as Roger J. Williams, Frederick Gowland Hopkins, Fred Kummerow, George H. Whipple, William Parry Murphy, Edward Adelbert Doisy. All 6 would say that meat, poultry, fish and eggs are good for you in moderation and that dairy is ok in small amounts if you like it and are not allergic to it but a human is an omnivore and they should still consume a balanced diet in the basic food groups.
@@chiclettNo there is a lot of peer review studies on veganism that vegan doctors can draw on, where as carnivore docs have none.
Coach Greg Doucette did a fact check on Dr Ken Berry and he crushed him to pieces 😂😂😂
I’m a Snake Oil doctor. How dare you insult me and my peers???😮
32 year vegan here.......thanks for remedying the concerns that I might be in danger Mic!😅
people don't wanna live more compassionately, and instead desperately cling to their old believes
true
That's sad
people care more about their own health. sad.
@@xsw882 caring for health doesn't contradict with not killing animals.
@@russianvegangirl Luckily. Or is it a coincidence. I believe it is not. ;)
That woman is like a bad penny, good Lord! I distinctly remember seeing soy milk "in containers" and tinned Loma Linda Foods products at my local hippy drippy crunchy granola health food store as a child in the _1970s._ This is proof these "carnivore" doctors have no real counterargument to veganism. Thanks for putting yourself through watching this to inform us of what these fringe nutrition preachers are saying!
Her brain definitely ate itself.
I’ll continue to take my chances with the plant based diet
Meat eaters live longer. Lol. It ia a proven fact that vegans are unhealthy and have to take drugs from a lab for the rest of their short lives
RIP
I don't know how you find the strength to answer this nonsense again and again... ❤ thanks Mic
It was really hard to watch that hour+ interview but I have 2x playback otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
@@MictheVeganyou did it for us and we appreciate you. Your brain cells are obviously very intact🧠☀️
Saying that people should stop eating seed oils & eat coconut oil instead, when a coconut is literally a seed ... 🥥🌱🌴 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
That's the 1 point that they are right with, oils are bad for us. Especially for our cells, fat blocks the 3rd proton pump of our mitochondria making the electron transport back up. With enough fat the mitochondria will just give up (at 35% mitochondrial damage the cell will die).
Ha yeah these definitions are all fuzzy
Janna Coyote!! 💜💜 That's a great point! 😂 These low-carbers are so embarrassing. See you at Ryan's livestream! ✌️
I find Lierre hilarious because of how delusional she is, and ignorant....not like she's the first or the last. Her way of eating was clearly beyond awful, calorie restricted and basically brainwashed herself into believing a vegan diet was to blame..when it was just her diet in general, and maybe underlying health issues. Heard this story so many times by now, it's practically comedy.
One thing i can agree very strongly on - the dopamine kicks after eating something calorie dense, fish, meat in case of the ''ex-vegans''...the sensation can really fool you. Funny thing is, you can get it from plant foods just the same...no need for animal corpses. Greasy, oily/fatty foods achieve that well...even if not the healthiest, like pan fried potatoes with tofu, that will hit those same pleasure sensors.
Why are these very conservative, culture over science positions always either "ignore problem as long as possible" and then "finding a solution is futile, we should give up and do the exact opposite"?
I love how red Jerry's face is from his high blood pressure 😢 and how pale and grey that ex vegan lady looks next to him, lmao
I'm sad and depressed because people continue to eat animals, not lack of protein.
They are paid by Industry.
Beef Industry alone has a surveillance department for vegan Videos and other media.
Yes stupidly exists but most if the meat heads are paid.
what about the ones curing all their health conditions that do not make videos. these thousands of people are not paid
"You are the trolley" - love that analogy 🌱
"Be there trolley you want to see in the world" - Gandhi??
"A proper human diet clogged 95% of my 3 arteries" - Michael Reilly aka The Carnivore Kid
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Filed under Things that never happened.
@@82KW82 anyone with a 🧠 knows how to 🔍; 🤷 seems like you don't
Seeing someone who supposedly studied to become a doctor being a nodding yesman to "plants are as sentient as we are" is golden hilariously stupid content. 😂
indeed
There is a new study that shows how plants communicate with each other. It’s pretty interesting .
@Soapgirl64 that doesn't imply sentience. Computers can also communicate with each other. A lot of our electronics communicate with each other.
@@Soapgirl64 Plants don't feel pain.
On the slug topic. Some gardeners use decoy or trap plants that will get placed near their garden to pull some of the problem bugs towards the decoy plants and away from the plants they don’t want the bugs to eat. So for instance chervil can be used as a decoy for slug control. You can put your decoy plants in pots and move them around.
I was trolling him with a dog meat question
Yeah but it exposed their wild position, nice one. 🫡
@MictheVegan Yup, Yup, you can see him getting all red. Faced and annoyed like he has to double down, or he would seem like a hypocrite
@@petercunnington6808 Isn't he always red in the face tho? Both of them look really unhealthy TBH.
@@petercunnington6808 Redder than usual.
Legend.
Beef jerky isn’t a weird junk food ?
not weird and not junk
Eat Beef Jerky and you'll Jerk Beefy.
How would preserving meat by salting and drying it be weird? It's been happening for millennium.
Beef jerky been around before your supplements and silly vegan diet.
Thank you Mic for watching that "so I don't have to"
I’m the opposite of sad, angry, and depressed. Was typing this right before you showed the studies lol. I am the Happiest and most at peace I’ve ever been. Raw vegan here.
That’s a whole extra level of crazy to be OK w/ eating puppy dogs and accuse those who aren’t of being culturally insensitive. 🐶
It’s funny how Doc Berry thinks we should be sensitive to cultures that eat canine meat but somehow insensitive to cultures or belief systems - like Hindu or Adventist Christians or Theosophists - that either eliminate or minimize animal deaths. Shouldn’t they be respected too?
I always liked the way many theosophical and far Eastern philosophies use the scientific hypothesis about how the more COMPLEX the nervous system is, the more likely the creature is sentient and aware and can feel pain etc.
Thus an amoeba is less sensitive than a doggie, and both are more sensitive than a brick . . . or a Nazi!
Then there is the division of the universe into mineral, vegetable, animal and human kingdoms - which is “farm out” 😂
Her comment about stopping menstruation being “good” in the vegan community tells you all you need to know about the extreme fringe “veganism” she was involved in.
Not to mention the anxiety, depression and “psychic torment”!!
My armchair interpretation: it almost sounds like she was in a cult that operated under the guise of veganism (with extreme diet claims!). Girl no wonder you felt better once you left.
Exactly this! She only saw one very extreme corner of veganism and based all of her opinions on that
@@neonk2222 And never entered a health food shop.
What you describe is one possibility. Another possibility is that guilt is driving a need in her to just insult vegans, to the point she doesn’t even recognise when she is doing it. A third possibility is that it’s all deliberate, just to pump out endless content to a guffawing crowd of hypnotised meat eaters. I rate the third possibility highest because the meat industry is definitely trying to generate a cult following of activists who produce endless noise to drown out the science, environmental, ethical and health messages they don’t want to get through.
She's also a famous TERF.
edit: semi-famous.
How can that 'doctor' spew so much bs in so little time? 🤯
only because of lived experiences
Soy has been really good for me at least, both as milk and tofu, for 15 years now. I had thyroid problems before that. No sign of it throughout this time. Certainly not saying it cured it, but it didn't make my health worse, at all.
She's also lying about something - though maybe not deliberately. We definitely *did* have "... those "weird" soy analogue/ "fake" meat things ..". Maybe not in the early 1980s, I wouldn't know about then because I wasn't doing any of my own grocery shopping yet. But, by the time I was a senior in high school, we definitely had such things & that was 1988 - 1989. "MorningStar Farms" was already a thing then, and they had soy burgers, soy "chik'" patties, meatless sausage links, meatless "breakfast strips" (meatless bacon), and meatless sausage patties. Soymilks were also available in the septic/ shelf-stable packaging. The main soymilk brand was "Soy Moo". These were all available in most of our mainstream grocery stores. Plus, tofu & tempeh had been readily available since at least the late seventies. The soy burgers, soy milks, soy sausages, etc. simply weren't quite so prolific back then. There were just fewer brands, and they weren't so popular compared to today. 🤷🏻♀️💜🌱💜🤷🏼♂️
I remember meat substitutes in the 1970s: it was in tins and I think it is the Granose label. Granose still make Mock Duck which is a traditional meat substitute from Zen Buddhist Monasteries. Although Veganism is new (at least back to the 1930s) vegetarianism is ancient.
If she was telling the truth, she would know that these things like TVP and soy milk existed 40 years ago. But she just creates a bogus history of herself to fit the narrative which fits her "cash for comment" to receive kickbacks from the Animal Ag industry.
You just put fish in your mouth and boom bing bong bing kaboom 😂😂😂
I have to say that these seven years have resulted in you looking younger and healthier. Unfortunately Lierre does NOT look healthy.
How these people think that eating zero veggies can be healthy is just mind blowing
Sounds like she wasn't eating enough calories/dense calorie sources.. Which would cause anyone to nearly die and feel like crap constantly lol
And to this day, she still hasn't learnt anything about diet and nutrition.
Right so insulting dog eaters is insensitive but calling soy milk weird is okay? (Even though soy milk has been around in many cultures for hundreds of years) jokers! 😂
The peter he's referring to his actually me I asked him that question
Good job!
Berry has horrible online reviews and a history of issues with his medical license. Yet people want to listen to this garbage.??
True? Same for that other carnivore MD Shawn Baker.
@@goku445 And Baker just admitted to Bariatric planter Garth Davis that he doesn't have any scientific data to back his fairy tales. But hey, children like fairy tales right? He's the Pied Piper of Nutrition.
Lovely video, well researched and insightful as always
I love how they love you to defend people's cultures. But only when it's food they agree with, like lots of cultures have been vegan
If you are eating meat, you can't really differentiate between pets and meat animals. That is at least more honest than most people are.
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My whole food plant diet is what stopped my blood sugar crashes.
I focus on eating enough calories and calorie dense foods like farrow and oats and brown rice and raw nuts.
Supplements is not a whole food.
@@GarudaLegends
Exercise is not a whole food, but it's still healthy.
Good relationships are not whole foods, but they are very healthy.
B12 is not a whole food, but it is a necessary supplement.
You may require other supplements, see your Dr to get tests to find out.
Many people need hormone D pills, but I live in the south and can get enough sunshine year round.
What about the ingredients of supplements?
One more thought. If you really feel that being vegan is truly a bad idea, then eat a whole foods plant based nonvegan diet. But to go hard over to a carnivore diet is pure madness, on many different levels.
They sound crazy to me.........
Plants are bad for you
No thanks. I rather eat a carnivore diet than eat an unhealthy vegan diet.
You didn't read my comment, did you?@@GarudaLegends
@@peter5.056 i did. It is a fact the vegan diet is unhealthy. Their is no evidence the carnivore diet is unhealthy. That is why i would never eat an unhealthy vegan diet, bzmut would eat a carnivore. Also vegan meals suck.
If we evolved by eating meat then why can we still make vitamin A, cholesterol, and omega 3 from plant sources? One of the rules of evolution is: that which is used gets stronger, that which is not used wastes away. So if early humans were getting an abundance of these nutrients preformed from animal sources, we should have lost the ability to make them ourselves? Just like we lost the ability to make vitamin C because we were getting all we needed from fruits and vegetables.
Why do vegans need supplements and you dont need supplements on an omnivore diet?
@@GarudaLegends Look at all the vitamins that are sold. There are not many vegans. So who do you think is buying all the millions of supplements? Walmart has a complete aisle of just vitamins. Do you think that all vegans shop at walmart? All vegans need is vitamin B12. They give farm animals B12 supplements. So you are still getting B12 supplements just second hand.
@@abidd so then you admit vegans are deficient. Lol. I dont need any supplements like you vegans. This us why gumans are meat eaters and not silly vegans. Meat eaters have the highest life expectancy by and meat eaters also live to be vasly old than vegans. The oldest ppl to live were meat eaters, and a few vegetarians. Not a single vegan came close to being the oldest in age.
Lay off the supplements and eat some meat. You will live longer.
@@abidd also no such thing as second hand supplements. ROTF. Meat is not supplemented. I love when vegans pretend they are healthy when they are unhealthy drug addict.
@@GarudaLegends You are not even smart enough to talk to. Google "supplements for farm animals" which you should have done before you made such dumb statements!
Thanks for what you do, Mike
And to think some people actually follow these people! That’s what alarms me. No logic and no science behind carnivore.
Meanwhile this channel has 303k subs, dr. John mcDougall has close to 200k and dr. Peter Rogers maybe has 3k...and someone like Ken Berry has a couple million. Not too much faith in the future but trying to stay positive and help change for the better.
Same with veganism
Shes was vegetarian in the 80s. Theres so much more information now to be wildly successful.
I never ceased to be amazed at how militant people can become when promoting the stupidity of pseudoscience. Thanks, Mic, for watching these crazy videos so we don’t have to!!
Just like veganism
17:58 😂 What!? I have never been suicidal but I have struggle with anxiety my whole life and I'm feeling either the same OR sometimes better since going vegan!
I have some ups and downs but that's normal.
In NO way has veganism made my mental health worse. 🤦♀️
"BUT THAT'S NORMAL" ahahahaha Lierre Keith has you PEGGED
So it’s OK to make fun or criticize the diets of vegans, but not those who consume dogs? We’re supposed to be culturally sensitive to eating dogs?
Thanks Mic!
These people are infuriating. 😡 Such mental gymnastics and pseudoscience! The eating eggs and then waking up with better skin made me laugh out loud.
If plants are as sentient as animals we would have PTSD after mowing the lawn or pruning the roses!
Well done, Mic. ❤
you talk of pseudoscience yet choose to make a moral argument for not eating plants
Great reply! I think they look bad. He is 55, and he already has nasolabial folds. His skin is red like he has high blood pressure. She aged a lot in 6 years. Her jawline is drooping and her neck is looking bad. On the other hand, Mike did not age at all compared to the video from 6 years ago. Mike actually looks younger. If they are going to attack vegans on the basis of looks, they will lose.
"Mike did not age at all compared to the video from 6 years ago"
Same with me. 11 years of videos, and I hardly notice a difference. I'm also 55 and have done comparisons with Berg(57) and Baker(56). They're looking rough and aged while I hardly have wrinkles.
@@GaryHighFruit I also get compliments about looking young. Of course, I use the opportunity to promote vegan diet. George Bernard Shaw had a great reply when he got a compliment about looking young: “I don’t. I look my age; and I am my age. It is the other people who look older than they are. What can you expect from people who eat corpses and drink spirits?”
@@GaryHighFruit I will check out your channel. George Bernard Shaw had a great reply when someone gave him a compliment about looking young: “I don’t. I look my age; and I am my age. It is the other people who look older than they are. What can you expect from people who eat corpses and drink spirits?”
Not that I don't agree with you but naso labial folds are common in people in their fifties.
@@haircafekevin Dr. Greger is in his 50’s, and he doesn’t have nasolabial folds, but so is Hench Herbivore, and he has them. Cleveland Clinic says, How to reduce the risk of nasolabial folds: “Eat a healthy diet and get plenty of exercise and sleep. The healthier you are, the healthier your skin will be. … Don’t work on your tan with the sun or tanning beds.” Hench Herbivore is not eating the healthiest diet. He puts tons of protein powder in everything. Even Dr. Greger told him to stop doing that, but he doesn’t listen. He also looks way too dark for a white guy, so I suspect he is into tanning. So there are ways to prevent nasolabial folds, but if all fails, there are now cosmetic procedures to get rid of them.
This is the most craziest thing ever...who listens to people that sounds just stupid....I love watching you because you slap them in the face with real facts ...not opinions 😊😊
not really. this guy has never compared a plant-free diet to anything
Those 2 are hilarios! 30+ year vegan here, I wonder how come I'm not dead yet! 😂 But I do know how come I'm not on any prescription meds.
The wheat vs. meat, deer death scenario was very helpful. Thank you for figuring this shit out.
I think it's pronounced liar...
I think she is right about hunter-gatherer (or maybe hunter-gardener) lifestyle being the least destructive, if low population density is maintained. And that high population density causes all kinds of problems. But I think that, in the context of the current world that those of us using computers are in, plant based is the way to go to minimize impact.
Hunter gatherers actually ate a lot of plants. It's really hard to catch a bison without a gun. Berries and tubers don't run away.
Hey bro thanks for the shout out! I have been vegan 16 years now. I love spreading the word that people can build an epic physique on a plant based diet without protein powders and with minimal but quality calisthenics! I do less than 2 hours per week ;).
I'm on the same path, even temporarily going to try the Walter Kempner diet (moderated a bit, more fruit instead of fruit juice and more variety in starches) and going low on protein while building muscle (48F, so technically i should just wither away and not build any muscle at all so say some..).
"I love trees as much as the next hippie." lol
Cognitively dissonant carnivores can stay irrational longer than vegans can stay stoic.
carnivores are not irrational, we have science and paleoanthropology on our side and we aren't the ones with mental problems and diabetes
@@diamondk67nope you guys def. are the ones with mental problems and diabetes
@@diamondk67 You have meat and dairy industry propaganda dog...shit on your side and not real science... don't kid yourself!
Type two diabetes is afecting about 60% of the americans who are eating SAD diet... which consist mostly in ANIMAL PROTEIN and ANIMAL FAT...
animal protein... particularly the Cazein which is present in DAIRY is responsible for type 1 diabetes... for those who are allergic to cazein... and ANIMAL FAT is the one responsable for DIABETES and not necessarily the refined sugar... which is not a real /natural food anyway... but when you combine animal fat with sugar ... which is the case for the VAST MAJORITY of cookies/cakes/chocolate/sweets... then you have the sugar as the TROJAN HORSE used for the ANIMAL FAT to enter and saturate your cell muscle... and therefore to become insuline rezistant... hence type 2 diabetes!
Actually you can cure type 2 diabetes with RICE and table SUGAR diet made by doctor Walter Kempner at Duke University in 1939... here are some info about his RICE DIET extracted from NutritionFacts.org :
In 1939, Dr. Walter Kempner, a Duke University Professor Emeritus of Medicine, introduced the first diet-based program to treat “malignant” hypertension and kidney failure. Called the rice diet, it consisted of rice, sugar, fruit, and fruit juices, providing 25 grams of protein in a 2,400 calorie a day diet, with reduced sodium, no animal fat, no animal protein, and no cholesterol. Initially, sugar was used as an additional source of calories so that people would not lose too much weight. He had hoped the diet would stop the progression of the disease.
Results of the Rice Diet on High Blood Pressure
While at Duke, Dr. Kempner treated more than 18,000 patients with his rice diet. Patients entered the program with blood pressure readings of 210/140 and left with readings down to 80/60. The disease reversed in two-thirds of the patients: reversal of heart failure, eye damage, and kidney failure. Patients often gradually transitioned to a less restrictive diet without their high blood pressure returning and without added medications.
Results of the Rice Diet on Obesity
Dr. Kempner’s rice diet showed that morbidly obese people could achieve significant weight loss without hospitalization, surgery, or drugs. He treated his overweight patients with a lower calorie version of the diet. The average weight loss among 106 patients was 141 pounds.
Results of the Rice Diet on Diabetes
Although Kempner assumed that his 90 percent carbohydrate rice diet would make diabetes worse, after treating 100 people with diabetes with the rice diet for at least three months, he found that their fasting blood sugar levels dropped, despite a reduction in the insulin they were taking. Surprisingly, 30 percent of the patients had a reversal of diabetic retinopathy.
@@diamondk67don’t forget Dementia and bad skin 😬I don’t know how old this guy is but looking at his face I’m guessing 52
@@diamondk67 and the Earth is flat and only 5000years old and Donald Trump is still President and Atlantis is in my swimming pool....with Elvis living there. (in scuba gear, of course)
I’m a market gardener and I relocate slugs from my garden and what she doesn’t realize is that slugs do not require human gardens to live; they eat algae, animal feces, carrion, centipedes, fungi, green plants, insects, lichens, worms…So, unless she was moving the slugs to a concrete parking lot, she wasn’t affecting the slugs. Her lack of awareness is amazing.
The auto transcription for closed caption spells her name Liar, they must be using AI now for that accurate of an interpretation or it's just a very interesting and precise interpretive mistake. Thanks so much for doing this video! I've been wanting to watch it since it released and just now getting around to it, love everything you do so much!
😂💀"Oh sorry, your dog's dead! hey well, life is a circle get over it!!" I was not expecting that! 🤣
Even if the trees are making conscious choices to protect each other, I don’t know of any vegan who are eating a redwood tree. 🤷♀️
Plus how many trees are cut down so humans can build factory farms (where most animal products come from)? 🙄
Yes, and the main point is, if they are advocating against eating plants because of that reason well then by default, they definitely are advocating against eating animals because of their higher sentience level,
so what are they going to eat??
Yes, 80% of the rainforest is being destroyed for cattle farming and you complain that the apple tree is missing it's apples or how we shouldn't eat broccoli?
Mic you look so AWESOME ❤ without the beard so CUTE
VEGAN 🌱 FOREVER
Agree 100%
How is Lierre still around? 😂
Didnt she say she would have died sooner if she ate fake soy meat? So according to her she doesnt exist already lol
She's thriving on pure bitterness.
CGI
cause she fixed her diet
I bet these are in the trumpie cult. Any takers?
Yep. I've followed the vegan community & politics for a long time, and I've noticed that anti-vegans are all right-wingers. I also think being anti-vegan is a political thing, and that carnivore diet isn't real. It's just a political tool to throw chaos into the vegan movement. I have many videos on this.
I suspect the Venn diagram has a lot of overlap among many groups that eschew objective reality.
The woman is a semi-famous TERF.
I have never met a carnivore dieter who isn't a far right MAGA type.
@@haircafekevin They are particlarly insecure about their masculinity, I've noticed.
What do people have against soy lecithin? I'm genuinely asking. I grew up taking lecithin before and during exam season as it was highly recommended "to boost brain activity". Never actually researched this one as it was such a prevalent "known fact" that I am only now starting to even question it. So, what is "wrong" with lecithin?
Nothing. It's one of the few healthy emulsifiers, according to Dr. Greger.
Soy is unhealthy
it comes from soy. use egg lecithin instead
Lol can you imagine as a vegan having a friend or family member send you a Ken Berry video? 😂😂
"Soy is horrendous"
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