Hello Hanier Family [Cynthia and Chriss if I heard right] ! Nightwish fan here, your musical quest summoned me. Welcome to the world of symphonic metal! And thank you for checking this legendary band! This live recording is from Wacken Open Air 2013, together with Floor Jansen [pronounced Yansen], the 3rd and present female singer of the band, in front of an 82K audience. About the instrumental and vocal added parts - it's good to know they recorded their orchestral and vocal back tracks with prestigious institutions as London Philharmonic Orchestra. London's The Metro Voices choir group and London's Young Musicians Children's Choir as their regular partners. Since this is your first Nightwish reaction, it is my duty to give you the [updated] short history of the band concentrated by Ann Waychoff, one of the biggest Nightwish fan who has since passed away (and I am doing this in her memory): " Nightwish was started in 1996.They are considered a Symphonic Metal band, with a female main singer. They are from Finland. Tuomas Holopainen [pronounced Tuo-mas], the keyboard player, composes and writes the lyrics for 95% of their music. [The 1st Bassist of the band was Sami Vanska, he was with them until 2001. The 2nd one was Marco Hietala, as Bassist and vocals, since 2001 to 2020. He recently announced his retirement both from the band and the public life for the next year at least. Then in May 2021 Jukka Koskinen [pronounced Yukka] became the 3nd Bassist of the band, for the Human :II: Nature tour - and recently, the band announced he became a permanent member] And there is the guitarist Emppu Vuorinen . Then there is Troy Donockley from UK who is a multi-instrumentalist and vocals. Jukka Nevalainen [pronounced Yukka] is the drummer. In 2015 due to Jukka's health issues Kai Hahto became the drummer and as of now is a permanent addition. Nightwish has had three singers. 1st one was Tarja Turunen [pronounced Tarr-ya] (Operatic vocals). She was with them until 2005. The 2nd one was Anette Olzon from Sweden (Poppy, strong vocals). She was with them until 2012.The 3rd and current singer is Floor Jansen, from Netherlands (power, operatic, soprano.....most versatile) - you just heard her. There are live concerts that you should use depending on what era. From Wishes to Eternity and End of an Era (Tarja), Montreux Festival live 2012 and Exit Festival (Anette), Live at Wacken 2013, Live at Wembley, Live at Tampere, Vehicle of Spirit, Decades live (Floor). I hope this helps. I want to welcome you to the Nightwish community. I hope you like them enough to continue the journey. Believe me Nightwish will surprise you with their songs. You will never know what to expect. They are unbelievable live. I want to warn you that Nightwish fans are hard core. So be prepared. lol " For an extended set of suggestion (with links), I just posted 2 huge comments in the community tab in my main YT channel: th-cam.com/users/gbardaccommunity
My cousin was a member of London Philharmonic Orchestra that did the orchestral parts. She said when we spoke that she never thought shed be backing to a metal band but was pleasantly surprised at how orchestral and metal came together and said Tuomas was genius with his writing and composing. She became a big Nightwish fan. Sadly she passed away with her 6 month old daughter in a car crash.
If you want something heavier from them , react to " Song of Myself " from the same show ( wacken 2013) BTW the lead singer Floor Jansen can sing everthing from Classical to growling and EVERYTHING in between. Truly one of the best vocalist on the planet, certainly the most versatile.... on a sad note , Yesterday was a rough day for The Nightwish Army, Floor wrote a letter on her social platforms that she was diagnosed with Breast Cancer two weeks ago .....good news is , it seems they got it Early , we'll know more as she underwent surgery today to remove the tumor . Prayers for Our Queen!!
I will add that song to our list, however, we don't usually listen to metal, so heavier may not appeal to us. We will try to keep our minds open to it though. We do recognize the talent; this is just outside of what we normally gravitate to.
@@hanierfamily i have to go back and watch it over to see why i was under the impression that you would enjoy something heavier by them .....anyway i do believe you said that you wanted to continue to react to them .....give it a try .
What they do live is 10 times better than the studio version. As to being rigid, Nightwish prides themselves on being able to delivery their songs as good as if not better than the album version, and now with Floor Jansen who by the way joined the band in Oct 2012 in the middle of their 2012 USA tour with only 48 hrs notice, this concert was recorded 8 months later. Floor is able to delivery the songs with the emotion and passion that was intended when written. She draws her energy from the crowd and her bandmates as she is a true Empath.
Nightwish are very versatile, they can't be categorised or judged from one song. GLS is a good start for what they can do as songwriter, musicians and singer but this rabbit hole is deep🤗🇸🇪
Well, to be fair, the album version of this song sounds very different, because it has a different singer. Floor is a part of Nightwish since 2012, but the band is back from the 90's and had 3 different singers during the time, but with Floor, they now have found the perfect match. The first one Tarja was a great opera singer, but very limited to that opera style of singing. Anette was more a rock/pop voice and had her struggles with the operatic stuff. Floor can do it all.
Floor is the 3rd and current singer of Nightwish. The songs that you recall may have been from the 1st or 2nd singers. I'm not a fan of their voices. Floor is extremely versatile with a powerful and pitch perfect voice. There were no 'flop' notes. Her voice has been analyzed by a computer on the channel 'Wings of Pegasus' and the outcome was that she has one of the most pitch perfect voices on the planet. Nightwish plays a huge variety of styles, and all their songs are quite different from each other. There's probably a few that you would enjoy.
This song is from the album Once. At that time it was sung by Nightwish's first singer Tarja. This version was only created in 2012/2013 and got a new ending with the third singer. Floor is a mix of her two predecessors and more. Many songs sound like film music. Others like folk or pop. Every song can surprise you. Another song from this album: NIGHTWISH - Romanticide (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO)
Nightwish Army (UK) reporting in Greetings, this was a very nice reaction, thank you You noticed the precision, and it was necessary for this song This song uses a backing track with orchestral and choral music that the band composed and had The London Philharmonic Orchestra record for them. In order to utilise a backing track accuracy is paramount and is a testament to the quality of their musicianship
@@hanierfamily The keyboardist is the main composer for the group and he did compose the orchestral and choral sections, but unfortunately unless you can drag a full orchestra on tour with you the only way to achieve the deep rich sound is to use backing tracks. Tuomas (keyboardist) probably does kick off a lot of those recordings himself and will have some choral tones set to his keys so that he can play them himself
I was at this concert and never heard of Nightwish ! Alice Cooper played before Nightwish and i was watching them , so i was way in the back when they came on =( I was hooked on them with the opening song " Dark Chest of Wonders " Check it out please =)
Thanks for the reaction :) I must say its hard to fit Nightwish in a box because they have so many styles and sounds. No song sounds the same. So captivating.. This performance of Ghost Love Score was actually very different from the original recording with the vocalist Tarja who was with Nightwish from 1996 -2005. Looking forward to more Nightwish reactions. It´s an incredible journey :D
We'll have to revisit this song with Tarja to hear the difference. We've noticed that a number of people in our audience have differing opinions of what version of their favourite song is the best to listen to. I'm thinking a livestream of all the songs we've covered done the way we didn't hear them before.
@@hanierfamily I would love for you to react to Nightwish performing Ever Dream live at Wacken 2013. It´s the same show but you will see contrast in the way they sound whilst still being mindblowingly good. You will also get a glimpse of Marko´s voice (Bass player). He is really good too. All the best
Hello. I hope you realized you were watching the most versatile singer in the world, Floor Jansen. Nightwish is so much more than 'theatrical music'. Think rock in 'Storytime', hard metal in 'Dark Chest of Wonders' and even jazz in Slow Slow. Nightwish has it all and name one band that is as good live as Nightwish. Next one? Storytime of course. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi guys. Good reaction. Every live Nightwish song is so different. Nightwish is one of those rare bands that are better live than in studio. Check out Gabriel Bardac's lengthy comment and his self-replies where he provides many links to other Nightwish live performances. By the way, Floor Jansen is the third and current female lead for Nightwish. My guess is you listened to one of the previous singers. If you want to hear one of their harder and faster songs, check out "Yours is an Empty Hope", the show opener at Wembley 2015. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/vyLsU7Q333k/w-d-xo.html
I get what you're saying about little improvisation on stage or live additions to songs that make them sound a bit different every time you hear them live. But it's easier to do when there's no backing tracks involved. The whole orchestra part of the Nightwish songs comes from the backing tracks so there's not a whole lot of room for improvisation or anything like that. They have done a bit adjusting to the songs during the years, but not like they are different in every individual concert, more like "let's do it like this on this tour". So it's not just 3-5 players on stage that are jamming with each other - with Nightwish we are talking about big compositions that include a whole orchestra. As brilliant musicians they could easily improvise and show off their skills, but they are playing to do justice to the songs. 😊
@@hanierfamily Yeah, it's basically a matter of genre and taste. While I appreciate and love the thing Nightwish and other symphonic metal bands do, I can enjoy good impros, too. Like the ones in jazz and "basic" rock and so on. Good music is good music, no matter what style. 👍
Glad you decided to react to this band..Welcome to Symphonic Metal.this is with their 3rd singer Floor Jansen,a 6’1” Dutch vocal beast who’s had classical training and been with the band since 2012.They’re definitely a band that are better live,their studio stuff is good but it’s their live performances where they shine…they go from operatic though to rock,folk,Celtic and on to thrash and everything in between,hope you decide to dip your toe into some more.IGabriel will be along soon I guess with much more info to drop on you,all his links have all great audio quality and are from the best concerts performance wise😊👍
As a 60+ year old who grew up with many bands that couldn't approximate their studio recordings live, I welcome NW's rigid style. One example is Boston, who I had seen live a few times, just didn't come close to the tightness of the originals. Toto was the kind of band that was as tight live and recorded but actually change things up for each concert. Nightwish uses an orchestral backing track for most all their music which does not lend itself to much song variation which is a big part of why they can't stray too far. Good reaction guys, will def return to check out more. Ever Dream is more mainstream and might be more to your liking, Cheers!
I don’t agree with you. Because night sounds way, way, way, better live. Than any of there studio recordings. Especially Wacken. Because who ever produces/mixes Wacken. Seems to be creep of the crop.
When you want to go further on the path of our 1.83m tall Dutch Valkyrie Queen Floor Jansen besides Nightwish, here is some background information on the best and most versitale female singer of our time. Floor joined the band 'After Forever' in 1997 at the age of 16. Here are some of my favourites: Energize me: th-cam.com/video/fjm4BrNAf6s/w-d-xo.html Monolith of Doubt: th-cam.com/video/3TmKHkQx45U/w-d-xo.html Dreamflight: th-cam.com/video/73-_F9prx4I/w-d-xo.html Floor attended the then new Rock Academy in 1999 and graduated in 2003. She also studied 2 years at the Conservatory (1 year Music Theatre and 1 year Opera). Here is a link to a part of a TV show (with english subtitles) of the reunion of the class of the Rock Academy with mostly backstage footage of the Tampere concert of Nightwish in 2015: th-cam.com/video/B3NIfu0qvtg/w-d-xo.html 'After Forever' disbanded in 2009 and Floor started her own band 'Revamp' from scratch. Here she experimented with different vocal styles within one song. Here are some examples: Misery’s no Crime: th-cam.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/w-d-xo.html Disdain: th-cam.com/video/tIqzPXzhEuw/w-d-xo.html Wild card: th-cam.com/video/GpZMFALYeGc/w-d-xo.html Besides managing a band on her own she also did a lot of vocal coaching and as she is a perfectionist, she wants to do everything at 100%+. Eventually she had to pay the price and got a burnout. She had just recovered when end of september 2012 the call came from Nightwish to fill in for the remainder of the North American Tour at first as their second singer Annette got ill. Floor had just 48 hours to learn the whole setlist. There is a documentary made of this world tour: th-cam.com/video/vhExkmWKMEU/w-d-xo.html Floor joined Nightwish after this iconic Wacken concert in 2013 as permanent member of the band. Floor continued to perform with 'Revamp’ also, but it was clear that she could not combine the two for much longer, so 'Revamp' disbanded in 2016. Floor did a side project called 'Northward' where she dived into the Hard Rock scene. The song 'While Love Died is a must see:: th-cam.com/video/bAiPeSsqD-4/w-d-xo.html A suggestion to a christmas song sung by Floor. Here is a link to a performance in Finland with a special guest with the best seat you could imagine: th-cam.com/video/ym1Wc5dmUYc/w-d-xo.html Her stunning performances on the Dutch TV show 'Beste Zangers 2019' gave her at last some more recognition in her home country where she was relatively unknown until then. There are numerous guest appearances with other bands to find on TH-cam. To see how to get a crowd of metalheads silenced and in awe watch her featuring with the band 'Epica' and the song 'Stabat Mater Dolorosa:, th-cam.com/video/QqdvFPBGN0c/w-d-xo.html and to see her in full opera mode, watch her rendition of 'O Mio Babbino Caro' from Puccini: th-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/w-d-xo.html As live concerts were cancelled in 2019 and 2020 and home isolation due to the Covid situation, Floor discovered TH-cam. Mindblowing covers, chats with her idols and other singers, vocal masterclasses, personal insights and so much more. She even made a video reacting to herself singing Ghost Love Score at Wacken. Lots of technical info and some memories of her starting with Nightwish:. th-cam.com/video/QW_3F186_5Q/w-d-xo.html Also her Fan Friday videos are hilarious. Just unpack some of the presents she left on her channel. Also videos of her solotour she did with songs of her impressive career. Floor is a high sensitive person, so peace and quiet is as important for her. Living by the woods in Sweden with her husband Hannes Van Dahl (drummer of the band Sabaton), daughter Freja (5 years old), a horse and pony, a dog and a bunch of cats, she found this. Sadly she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she has got surgery yesterday. The prognoses are good however and she wants to be on the European tour which starts november 20th.
I believe it's the London Philharmonic Orchestra on tracks in the background since they can't realistically tour with an orchestra, and I think they also have choirs recorded on tracks too for some song, but their live performances can actually be quite different from one another, Floor certainly has taken some lead in playing around with the vocals parts of many songs and interpreted them differently over the years.
Thanks for your honest reaction. Thing about Nightwish is they pretty much have songs to fit everyone. From soft ballads to heavy metal and everything in between.
Hello Cynthia and Chriss. Nightwish Army reporting from the Netherlands. Welcome to the wonderful world of Nightwish. They are from Finland. And they make Symphonic Metal. What you've heard here is just the tip of what this band can do. Nightwish really hits you in your heart. And that's what makes this band so unique. Her name is Floor Jansen and she is Dutch. There were 82,000 people there. I happily refer you to Gabriel Bardac's comment (he'll be here soon) for a list with lots of song suggestion. Watch out for the Nightwish Army.
Welcome to Nightwish and symphonic metal. The orchestral tracks are prerecorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra at Angel Studios, London under the direction of Pip Williams. Choirs were also recorded in England by London's The Metro Voices and young Children's Choir. The keyboard player and main founder, Tuomas chooses to play the string arrangements in most songs depending on what other sounds he adds to the songs on keyboards. The 6 foot, Dutch Goddess of all things vocal, is Floor Jansen. She is classically trained and knows more about how to use the vocal mechanism than any singer you will ever know. Her versatility is wide which gives her an arsenal of singing styles to choose from. Her highest note performed live to date is a D6# and she reached it with a smile on her face. (Romanticide- Wacken 2013) The lineup other than keys and vocals... Emppu - guitar Marko - bass/vocals Jukka - drums Troy - multi instrumentalist I'm glad you enjoyed this performance. I found Nightwish in 2020 and never looked back. In fact, I went to see them live this May in New York City. Best concert I've attended! This rabbit hole goes deep, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thank you so much for the video, reaction, and comments. Stay safe and stay blessed. 😊❤🤘🤘 Subscribed! Edit: One thing everyone eventually finds out about Nightwish is that this is not your typical "you heard one song, you've heard them all" type of band. Every song is different. So I do ask that you continue your journey and find out for yourself. You won't regret it. 😉
Welcome to the glorious world of Symphonic Metal, the glorious mash up of symphonic composition, orchestral instruments, and heavy metal. Cynthia probably heard a song with their first singer Tarja who was a classically trained opera singer and some people do find that combination with heavy music somewhat jarring (I don't). This is Floor, their 3rd singer and one of the best, most versatile female singer's IMHO. I had given up on American music some time ago because it was so simplistic and devoid of any meaning. It did nothing to make my life better. Then 3 years ago I discovered Nightwish and then through them a whole different world of music that exist outside of the U.S. Bands with thoughtful and complex instrumentation and lyrics that challenge you to think about big idea's while still being fun. I connect with this music emotionally and it makes me a better person. Hopefully you will continue to listen and explore since Nightwish has many different types of songs, from straight forward chorus/verse songs, to ballads, to epic songs like this that will take you on a journey. Ghost Love Score is not from a movie but is written in a style of a movie score (Tuomas, their main songwriter, is a big fan of movie scores). Maybe try Sleeping Sun, live from Tampere or Master's of Rock for a different side of them.
The rigidity is what their fans want. The music is crafted very carefully and the fans want the same experience live that they felt on the album. I think when you are part of a Nightwish crowd it is the fact that you are sharing your favourite band with so many other people and that you get exactly what you love that makes the experience such an amazing one. In fact that is the very criticism of the second lead singer - she couldn't pull off what the audience was expecting so has been universally bashed. Even though for a lot of us the albums she was involved with are a couple of the best.
idk how many changes Tuomas Holopainen wrote into his score but probably ten so this is not a 'rigid' song. He and the London Symphony Orchestra Conductor worked long hours making this composition the best it could be b/c it is very complicated with key and rythym changes. This was Floor's big concert b/c she had never before sung in front of 82,000 people. She replaced the previous singer who had gotten pregnant and could not continue on their South American tour. Floor agreed to a part time job with Nightwish and flew to Seattle where NW was stuck w/o a lead singer. She was given two days to learn the setlist because she had not sung with Nightwish in ten years. From Seattle they toured South America and I think she sang GLS every stop which was 5-6 concerts. After this concert the band asked her to become a permanent member of Nightwish and ten years later she is still their frontwoman. BTW two weeks ago Floor was diagnosed with breast cancer and underwent the operation yesterday. The tumor was benign and was removed. She plans to go on their European tour starting late November.
Thanks Hanier Family for your high standard in music. I do agree that experiencing the live show 'in situ' is way better than seeing a video of it. Yes they are very talented. I myself would not make a fuss over a few off-notes (?) of the singer when she has just delivered such a powerful performance. And yes, the band sure is 'rigid', in that they stick to their score. They have to, with pieces so cut-up into contrasting sentences and so 'crowded in sound', in order to keep it clear. Just like your Mozart and Beethoven (I would think Orff) did not leave any light between the notes of the score. In Jazz , Blues and some Pop/Rock, obviously, one traditionally can have lots of free-play in designated areas of a number; this is the nature of the styles.
I (Chris) really do feel like I used the wrong word. Some people were put off by it. I meant no disrespect. You must know what I was trying to say. You know this band so well. Sometimes I use words that are in the ballpark, and people misunderstand.
Nightwish is an extremely talented band, and the genius behind the band is Tuomas, the Mozart of Metal, is the keyboard player. Floor Jansen Is the lead singer, who has had classical training. Marko is the bass guitarist and also back up vocals, and lead vocals. Jukka, the Pirate, is the drummer, who sadly had to stop due to a medical condition, but is still with the band in a managerial position. Jukka has been replaced with on of his friends and mentors, Kai. Emppu is the lead guitarist! Not seen in this song is Troy...if you ask him what instrument he plays...he says "Yes!". He is an extremely talented musician, who plays many instruments, background vocals, and sometimes lead vocals. If you want to hear some of their softer, more gentle music... " Dead Boy's Poem" "While your lips are still red" "Sleeping Sun" Floor also has three solos out in anticipation of her first solo album ( all done with the blessings of the band) My favorite is her first song is titled: "Fire" It's about coming out of the pandemic.
Another two souls snatched away by the Valkyrie Queen of Metal. Believe me, this is just the tip of the iceberg in regards to Nightwish and Floor's amazing vocal talents. Honestly the greatest female vocalist on the planet bar none.
Thanks "Hanier Family" for the good music by Nightwish and singer Floor Jansen from Germany! 2013 W:O:A= Wacken Open Air near Hamburg/Germany with 82.000 Metalfans. And 2022 W:O:A total sold out.
It's an interesting comment that this is so 'rigid', that they don't deviate from what's written, because the single best and most epic moment in this performance is a deviation from how the song was written ....
Nightwish Army USA (Pa) division saying Thanks for the reaction , no two songs sound alike ,you really have no idea yet about them but I hope you try again . This singer is probably different then you 1st time . This is there 3rd singer Floor Jansen 2012 - current
Originally Floor was sent by Allfather Odhinn to Midgard to gather the souls of fallen warriors to Valhalla, but she got distracted and joined a series of bands. However, Floor still gathers souls by her grace, beauty and the sheer power of her vocals. We give thanks for her at our Blots regularly and hope that Odhinn won't notice that she has never returned to Asgard. ALL HAIL THE VALKYRIE GODDESS!!! The Nightwish Army is incoming! You're not ready! Nightwish Army Central Florida Black Company reporting for duty! I wish I could play so rigidly.
I believe you would like 'While love died' by Northward. A true hard rock song by Floor Jansen from Nightwish. No symphony music - just a super guitarist Jørn Viggo Lofstad, a drummer - and the most versatile, powerful, skilled and talented storyteller in the century - Floor Jansen in lead. That ROCK!! th-cam.com/video/bAiPeSsqD-4/w-d-xo.html
😃 Listen In order: this performance, the Buenos Ares performance (when Floor had been with the band about a month) The Wembley performance from 2015, and the studio version with Tarja and then see if you still think it's rigid 😃 I havnt found a band that continues to surprise me as much as this band does, time after time, performance after performance
This being Symphonic Metal, the backing tracks being live recorded with a full orchestra & choir and played back during their shows, they have to be rigid, this is part of the style.
The album version is very different. Tarja was the singer back then. And Floor really made it her own interpretation. It's very different. And if you see a live performance now, Floor is doing it different again. No copy paste. Nothing rigid about that I think, but indeed, it's rehearsed and so it should be if you're professionals. So check out the studio version, the live version with Tarja, the live version with Annete and a 2022 version with Floor (who is the singer in this video and the current singer). Don't take my word for it, go explore. Maybe you don't agree, that's all right as well. Btw, I do like raw as well.I like Metallica, Foo fighters, Danzig and Rage against the machine. Try 'Your's is an empty hope'. Floor is doing growls there.
Interesting that you heard a couple of fluffed notes from Floor, because there are actually none in this performance. I also find this 'rigid' comment very strange, it really confuses me, as a musician, who's played many shows with many bands - you rehearse your music, to play it well, to strive for perfection, that's what you do, snd Nightwish do it better than anyone I've ever seen. Anyway, glad you kind of enjoyed it.
Heya from Germany 🇩🇪 please react to Dimash Kudaibergen singing "Ogni Pietra" from his own channel (Arnau Concert version). This guy has an 6 octave range and he is trained since the age of 5 years old. It's an very special experience to listen to him. Maybe it's not your cup of tea - but to see and listen to a voice like this 😳 never heard a voice like this. All the best from Germany and stay safe ☀️Petra
🤗🍒🤘🏻 how many years ago was that listening to Nightwish, probably not with Floor Jansen as singer !? I would definitely still listen to all of Nightwish's music if I were you, it's a must!
The reason that this is suggested is because this singer, Floor Jansen, had only been with the band 10 months and most of the 82,000 had not heard her sing with Nightwish before. 15 songs written for previous two singers one operatic, Tarja, and one pop, Anette and Floor takes them to another level. Parts of this song are so different to album as that singer, Tarja, didn't have the versatility of Floor. Without listening to your reactions it's difficult to tell what you like as you have reacted to such a huge cross section of artists. Then perhaps a song you might enjoy could be suggested from their vast catalogue.
Not sure what you mean by "rigid"? It may be because you're not versed in the art of music, but if you listen carefully, you'll hear many different note and key changes throughout the song, not to mention that the song is sectioned into parts just like a play or opera.
Nightwish Army south Brittany France reporting, I've just found your channel, so I'm working through your Nightwish reactions. Welcome to the world of symphonic metal. A lot of Nightwish music is accompanied by Orchestra and choir backing tracks, any deviation would throw everything out of sync.
The orchestra and choir are real, not synthesized. They have been recorded earlier and are played in the background at the concert and the band has to play the song in exactly the right rhythm.
@@hanierfamily they are a Swedish powermetal band whose songs teach about world history, usually pertaining to military history. Check out the official music video of their song "Christmas Truce" telling about the unofficial truce between the British and German forces during WW1. Have tissues ready also.
maybe the Live performances of the Dutch TV program : Beste Zangers 2019 ( best singers 2019 ) are something for you. it is best to watch the videos with the before and after commentary. the show starts with a performance by Floor Jansen : Floor Jansen - Vilia lied Beste Zangers 2019 . and also the video with the closing of the show with : Floor Jansen & Henk Poort - Phantom of the opera Beste Zangers 2019, you should not miss it .
I don’t know there 2 names. But it looked/sounded like the guy didn’t want to say how he really felt. That he really didn’t like it. I would rather he told the truth. I.E tell us to what he didn’t like about it.
There's no deeper meaning. It's played to perfection. Which is great. It makes it a bit rigid, though. I have the same issue with Polyphia. Excellently played. A bit rigid for my taste.
@@hanierfamily when you say rigid. Do you mean that is to doesn’t sound musically stretched out. If that is what you mean. A lot of reactors have said that they love how tight the band sounds.
@@shspurs1342 Polyphia is an instrumental band. They are quite new. They have a song called Ego Death that they did with Steve Vai a month or two ago that sounds great. You should check them out. Or watch our video of the same song. That's one of their songs that we really liked.
Nightwish certainly isn't a jam band. I do get that not everyone will find NW their go to for casual listening, but it is very hard to not be very impressed with the composition of the music and the technical musicality of the writing along with the amazing delivery. For me at 68 NW was an amazing discovery 20 years ago. I was already a big prog fan from the late 60's to now. The prog bands like Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree blended my love for prog with metal which I never saw coming. Like so many people I have grown up listening to Rock, Blues, Jazz and if it's good, I am in. Of course, some music moves me more or differently. NW for me has the rare commodity of delivering what they promised in their recordings but better, bigger, filled with emotion, still while with precision. Not easy to do and that is why so many live concerts don't live up to the recordings. Great performers and great purveyors of music are rarer than not. I was 13 and 14 when I saw Jimi Hendrix, Cream and the Doors in one calendar year incredible music that is iconic and legendary for me Nightwish although very different from my beloved Led Zeppelin's and Pink Floyd's bring me great joy and the live performances are the best. If you see enough of their performances, you can see that they love what they do, love each other and they love their fans in a genuine way. Not sure I get that vibe from most bands.
check out Epica - design your universe live retrospect next if you want more symphonic goodness
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Like your honest opinion. I hope you can broaden your music taste and give some more of Nightwish songs, as they have a lot on their musical scene. You have Gabriel's list on the comment.
I think you'd enjoy like Romanticide (Wacken 2013), Yours is an Empty Hope (Wembley 2015), Shudder Before The Beautiful (Wembley 2015), I Want My Tears Back (Buenos Aires 2018), Greatest Show On Earth (Tampere or Wembley 2015... They actually changed a bit in the beginning in Wembley, instead of backing track the Troy plays the melody on the ebow). Also High Hopes (live from end of an era) is a great cover version.
I appreciate y'all giving it a try. Never know until you do. If you're not into metal but still want to check out some more of Floor's vocals, try Nightwish- How's The Heart acoustic version. She displays some great vocal gymnastics. There are a lot of other videos of hers as well, singing a myriad of different genres. Floor is classically trained, and a former vocal coach who can sing pretty much anything she wants, from opera to metal, even metal growls if you're into that. But you still get a Sub from me for being good sports and expanding your horizons. Cheers!
If you THINK this is all Nightwish has to offer you are SO wrong, Floor even does death metal GROWLS. This is a 'Score", a composition. This is not a regular song. So if you want a straight up METAL song with a SICK guitar riff and Floor doing the growling in all the choruses then do "Yours is an Empty Hope" Live at WEMBLEY. But bruh, you gotta throw OUT our preconceived and erroneous "idea" of what Nightwish is. Their style is HIGHLY diverse.
We never judge a band by our first listen. We will definitely check out other songs at some point. We don't usually go for metal, especially heavier stuff, but this was suggested, and we are open to checking out all suggestions.
Nightwish Army New York here welcome 👋 if, you want to continue with this great band, I think it's time for a little story 😉 try "Storytime" from this same show.
Hello Cynthia and Chris! While you were napping on this band they grew up exploded with the addition of their third singer, Floor Jansen (who you just reacted to). IMO, their studio recordings are basically demos. When they get on stage is when the magic happens! This event, on this night, with this lineup are the new reference for live performances. Every song on this night, 15 songs in the set, is your next favorite song. No joke! The best part... you also opened a dimensional portal to the Galaxy of Symphonic Metal. Ghost Love Score, GLS for shorthand, is a gateway drug into the addiction of NW! This lineup, for many, is their best. Sadly, two of the brilliant musicians have left for health reasons. Jukka, the drummer, left full-time drumming to be part of the management team. Marco, the bassist, has taken a "sabbatical" holiday from the industry for his mental health. The Wäcken recording is certainly one of the best "live" productions, of any, and the best source for NW performances. The sun, the moon and stars were in harmony and the gods were pleased for this Headlining band, for the premier metal festival, possibly in the world, certainly in Europe. Gabriel has provided a map for the journey to enlightenment. And while it's a comprehensive read for NW lore, it's not a Bible. Sometimes the road less traveled leads to unintended discoveries. (Some of my past comments regarding Gabriel's "Introduction and welcome to the army" message seemingly alienated me from the fandom. Most of the NW Army are loyal, informative, supportive and enthusiastic. Some are inviting and inclusive. Some are elitist, possessive and exclusive. But one thing is certain...all of them are passionate!) For my tastes, I think Ever Dream is the perfect followup and great introduction to Marco's pure metal vocals. As mentioned above, the Wäcken show should be your primary source for about 14 or 15 songs... the set being 15 tracks😜 NW and Nightwish adjacent projects are plentiful. The list of performers that are connected to this lineup is staggering. Most notably is AYREON. Ayreon is a project conceived by the brilliantly gifted Arjen Lucassen. Multi-instrumentalist and creator of the Ayreon universe, Arjen enlists the best talent from across the genre, (Symphonic Metal) and globe to give life to his imagination. And it is VAST! I wanted you to know that the community you're now a part of is Very welcoming, passionate AND excited to join you on your MOST EPIC EXPLORATION of your new FAVORITE BAND, singer(s), musicians and community. The community includes, but certainly not limited to... After Forever, Revamp, Tarot Ayreon...of course Epica... (female lead) you'll see for yourself Kamelot Avantasia Dream Theater (considered one of the pioneers) Within Temptation (female lead) Amaranth (female lead) Delain (female lead) Elysion (female lead) Nemesea (female lead) The Dark Element (female lead, sensing a theme?) Evergrey Myrath Sonata Arctica And so, so many more... Welcome to the army! Colorado division reporting for duty!
@@hanierfamily ...then you have taken the first step into an amazing genre... By no means is my list of 'other' bands and artists a complete list. But you will find it's a beautiful community. 'Metal' has some prejudice and preconception challenges to overcome and the Symphonic Metal sub-genre is so NOT typical. The artists are so amazing and regularly work together and cross-pollinate ideas, talent and knowledge to increase and improve their 'family'. Some of the artists I list are lesser known, but equally gifted and I gravitate towards some of those. Right now I am exploring the Evergrey catalog and have discovered some real gems. WHERE AUGUST MOURN TOUCH OF BLESSING SILENT ARC
Nice to see that you found Nightwish, first of all, Nightwish music/songs are EXTREMLY versatile, no song is like the other and you should concentrate on the live performances because of the energy that band give/receive from the audience. If you want a Official video that is not live I suggest to check out Elan, th-cam.com/video/zPonioDYnoY/w-d-xo.html There is some very nice Official Lyric videos from their latest album Human. :II: Nature also.
Heavier song and newer show? Nightwish "Devil and Deep Dark Ocean" - Buenos Aires live. Old band, they earn one react from you more. Greetings from Finland
Less operatic rigid songs may be "I want my tears back", "Storytime" and "Song of myself" from the same 2013 Wacken show, they're not as heavy as you think. A big challenge for you may be "The greatest show on Earth", the album version is 24 minutes long, for a complete experience the Wembley live 2015 version with the presence of the person who does the narrative parts of the song (th-cam.com/video/qrMwxe2ya5E/w-d-xo.html) it´s only 21 minutes long 😀. Side note, Thuomas the keyboard guy is the composer of almost everything.
I liked your honest and respectful reaction. You said you like more 'raw' sounding music. I think you probably would like following Nightwish songs, because they are more 'raw' sounding: While Your Lips Are Still Red (IMO this song is raw - on the softer side) - Live at Wembley Arena Yours is an empty hope (IMO this song is raw - on the harder side) - Live at Wembley Arena I Want My Tears Back - Decades - Live In Buenos Aires 2019 - IMO this performance is raw And maybe you would like Marko Hietala's solo songs (for example: Isäni ääni). I think his style is raw sounding. Marko is the former bassist of Nightwish (you saw him in this video). Of course all that depends on what you mean by 'raw' :)
Thnx 4 this. Go on with the stuff. Welcome to the Nightwish army^^. Please listen to Song of myself at Wacken. And, i am sure this will leave you speachless, the Gratest show on earth at Tampere. Due to Marco's voice , the wiking bassman, give The phantom of the opera a try, the"old" Nightwish singer Tarja will show her quality as well. Peace from Germany and please stay save.
I wouldn't have watched this one for a newcomer .. watch others from the Wacken concert as each one is different to the last and may be more your taste.
The raw less perfect but still world class band your maybe looking for is 'Jinjer'! They are from warzone Ukraine. Skip their more than 60 million hitter 'Pisces live Studio' and just dive into their high energy performance 'Perennial' live also at Wacken Open Air. A 'simple' four piece unit with loads of talent, top shelf musicianship. Totally different than NW but you will be intriged as many already do. Ps: this performance of Nightwish is just the tip of the iceberg. They are so versatile and have such a huge catalogue that even I, not loving the genre, am impressed. Their super high level live perfomances are way more entertaining and better than their studio work. And that is an interesting thing to analyse further. Succes and have fun.
I giggled when you said the studio version must be very similar. This song wasn’t even wrote for Floor. 😆❤️🙏🏻 Once you get more info, you will look back and giggle too. 🥰 I got to the end and I’m crackin up. Floor had not been with the band but 8 months at this point. (I think) One the most frequent comments about them is that you never know what your going to get. They even change up the set list from show to show. Cool, eh? 👍🏻👏🏻🥰🎃
You two make me think of that Norman Rockwell thing of the guy with the pitchfork and his wife...someone should check your vitals see if youre actually alive
I don’t think anything is performed well if it isn’t practiced a lot. Especially the music Nightwish makes. There are so many switches within songs and that requires perfect timing which they all seem to have. Floor is their 3rd singer and in my opinion the best because she has it all. Especially that rough metal voice she added to Nightwish and her singing together with Marko the bassist is amazing. They have some other songs you might like some more. This one is really like a score. But they have a lot of variaton. Songs that are way more metal like “Song of myself”, “Romanticide”, “Tribal”, Ghost river” or “Slaying the dreamer” or softer songs like “How is the heart” or “Dead boys poem” or more hit songs like “Ever dream” and “Amaranth” or like growling with “Yours is an empty hope” or jazz with “Slow love slow” or crazy songs like “Devil and the deep dark ocean” or songs with a lot of emotion switches like “The Poet and the Pendulum”.
Welcome to Nightwish and our 6'1 Valkyrie Godess Floor Jansen. (There 3rd and current singer) I see that Gen Gabriel has visited you. Follow his lead on all things Nightwish and you can't go wrong. Nightwish Army North Florida Airborne Div reporting in. Enjoy.
Great reaction. Welcome to Nightwish. As others have pointed out, every song is different, so perhaps there are things that might hit better. As for your "too rigid" comment, are you sure that is the word you are going for? Based on that, I would have to think that you would also find Pink Floyd too rigid. They also rely heavily on precision and timing, especially for their elaborate light shows. FWIW, this song as performed here is quite different from the album. Not only was it a different lead singer, but the ending of the song is quite different. If lack of rigidity is your thing, perhaps a jam band like the Grateful Dead would be a good fit.
We never really checked out the Dead much. Perhaps we'd like it. Honestly, one song can never be enough to understand a band and their sound. We'll be returning to Nightwish soon.
@@hanierfamily thank you for the kind response. I am glad that you will be continuing the Nightwish journey. With 3 lead singers (plus Marko the bass player who is also an amazing singer) and songs that range from ballads, to sea shanty to Celtic influenced jigs to rock and metal (some with impressive growling by Floor), this rabbit hole is quite deep and there is something for everyone. As for the Grateful Dead, this is another deep rabbit hole. Like Nightwish, stick with the live shows. GD music is more a combination of Blue Grass, Jug Band, Blues, Jazz, Country, Folk and a mixture of progressive and psychedelic rock. The live stuff is very improvisational and they mix a lot of classic rock covers (Dylan, The Band, Janis Joplin, and many others) in with their originals.
I have to say that this the first reaction video to this song where the reactor actually looks bored. OK. If it's not your particular thing, so be it. But for there to be no reaction on your faces to that Floor's final note is beyond belief.
Try Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down - The Source (2017) th-cam.com/video/oFuMKdrzPqU/w-d-xo.html And Ayreon - Valley of the Queens (Anneke van Giersbergen, Floor Jansen, Marcela Bovio) th-cam.com/video/TbebO5BZi-I/w-d-xo.html Or Star One - Fate of Man (Brittney Slayes, Michael Romeo) th-cam.com/video/vn7P3oVMnys/w-d-xo.html Or Ambeon - Ashes (Simone Simons) (Electric Castle Live And Other Tales) th-cam.com/video/ZLR3aTqlBNg/w-d-xo.html Or Guilt Machine - Twisted Coil (Damian Wilson) (Electric Castle And Other Tales) th-cam.com/video/gcHn0kCgmAs/w-d-xo.html
Was your earlier experience with a different singer? Can you remember what the song was about? Click track and backing of the London Philharmonic Orchestra helps, a bit :) Crewish look after the pyro, lighting, video wall, set-up.
First break. Two points - First, Floor is the third vocalists the band has heard, so what you have heard before, even if were the same song, could really be different than what you heard here. Second, I would have no real interest in hearing this band's records. Much more organic listening to them live. This performance though, specifically, is one of the best video recordings I've ever heard. I don't consider myself a Nightwish fan like the majority of the folks you'll find here. I'm really a fan of Floor's and her solo projects, which, after seeing her solo performances from her appearance on the Dutch tv show Beste' Zangers solidified my fandom of Floor and introduced me to Nightwish. So, to promote Floor I'm going to take the liberty of posting a selected playlist of live performances that I consider the most enjoyable for me from her catalog of solo projects. 2019 - Beste' Zangers Solo cover of "Shallow" (Lady Gaga) - th-cam.com/video/M68pe4a_9zk/w-d-xo.html Duet cover of "Phantom of the Opera" w/ Henk Poort - th-cam.com/video/plCScjvDOJM/w-d-xo.html 2021 - solo Amsterdam Concert Storm in a Glass - th-cam.com/video/7ax5nSPB9t8/w-d-xo.html Slow, Love, Slow - th-cam.com/video/bBG8GdyLYDk/w-d-xo.html 2022 - Recently released singles from her upcoming 2023 solo album. There are music videos of these singles but I prefer the more organic live versions. All three venues provided excellent acoustics "Fire" - recorded at HLF8 - th-cam.com/video/rqwHMgo_DdQ/w-d-xo.html "Storm" w/orchastra - th-cam.com/video/8dAP8Mjgh_E/w-d-xo.html "Me Without You" - First public performance - th-cam.com/video/R6LmRR-rgss/w-d-xo.html Bonus reel - Floor sings the phonebook - th-cam.com/video/CLUr1DLwEQg/w-d-xo.html
The answer is emphatically, yes, your niece still loves this band.
One does not simply stop loving Nightwish 😄
Hello Hanier Family [Cynthia and Chriss if I heard right] ! Nightwish fan here, your musical quest summoned me.
Welcome to the world of symphonic metal! And thank you for checking this legendary band! This live recording is from Wacken Open Air 2013, together with Floor Jansen [pronounced Yansen], the 3rd and present female singer of the band, in front of an 82K audience.
About the instrumental and vocal added parts - it's good to know they recorded their orchestral and vocal back tracks with prestigious institutions as London Philharmonic Orchestra. London's The Metro Voices choir group and London's Young Musicians Children's Choir as their regular partners.
Since this is your first Nightwish reaction, it is my duty to give you the [updated] short history of the band concentrated by Ann Waychoff, one of the biggest Nightwish fan who has since passed away (and I am doing this in her memory):
" Nightwish was started in 1996.They are considered a Symphonic Metal band, with a female main singer. They are from Finland.
Tuomas Holopainen [pronounced Tuo-mas], the keyboard player, composes and writes the lyrics for 95% of their music. [The 1st Bassist of the band was Sami Vanska, he was with them until 2001. The 2nd one was Marco Hietala, as Bassist and vocals, since 2001 to 2020. He recently announced his retirement both from the band and the public life for the next year at least. Then in May 2021 Jukka Koskinen [pronounced Yukka] became the 3nd Bassist of the band, for the Human :II: Nature tour - and recently, the band announced he became a permanent member] And there is the guitarist Emppu Vuorinen . Then there is Troy Donockley from UK who is a multi-instrumentalist and vocals. Jukka Nevalainen [pronounced Yukka] is the drummer. In 2015 due to Jukka's health issues Kai Hahto became the drummer and as of now is a permanent addition.
Nightwish has had three singers. 1st one was Tarja Turunen [pronounced Tarr-ya] (Operatic vocals). She was with them until 2005. The 2nd one was Anette Olzon from Sweden (Poppy, strong vocals). She was with them until 2012.The 3rd and current singer is Floor Jansen, from Netherlands (power, operatic, soprano.....most versatile) - you just heard her.
There are live concerts that you should use depending on what era. From Wishes to Eternity and End of an Era (Tarja), Montreux Festival live 2012 and Exit Festival (Anette), Live at Wacken 2013, Live at Wembley, Live at Tampere, Vehicle of Spirit, Decades live (Floor). I hope this helps.
I want to welcome you to the Nightwish community. I hope you like them enough to continue the journey. Believe me Nightwish will surprise you with their songs. You will never know what to expect. They are unbelievable live. I want to warn you that Nightwish fans are hard core. So be prepared. lol "
For an extended set of suggestion (with links), I just posted 2 huge comments in the community tab in my main YT channel: th-cam.com/users/gbardaccommunity
My cousin was a member of London Philharmonic Orchestra that did the orchestral parts. She said when we spoke that she never thought shed be backing to a metal band but was pleasantly surprised at how orchestral and metal came together and said Tuomas was genius with his writing and composing. She became a big Nightwish fan. Sadly she passed away with her 6 month old daughter in a car crash.
@@shannontaylor345 that was so cool to read until i came to the last sentence. so sorry for your loss .rip.
@@frankmerris8821 Gabriel is cool its like lovers tifs 🤣
@@shannontaylor345 agree the general is cool but my statement was in reference to your cousin
@@frankmerris8821 Omg im a dipshit at times. Yes it was cool. Thanks. I miss her. She introduced me to lots of music too
If you want something heavier from them , react to " Song of Myself " from the same show ( wacken 2013)
BTW the lead singer Floor Jansen can sing everthing from Classical to growling and EVERYTHING in between. Truly one of the best vocalist on the planet, certainly the most versatile....
on a sad note , Yesterday was a rough day for The Nightwish Army, Floor wrote a letter on her social platforms that she was diagnosed with Breast Cancer two weeks ago .....good news is , it seems they got it Early , we'll know more as she underwent surgery today to remove the tumor . Prayers for Our Queen!!
Absolutely "Song of Myself" I love that song. That Jukka's drumming there 🥁❤
I concur.
I will add that song to our list, however, we don't usually listen to metal, so heavier may not appeal to us. We will try to keep our minds open to it though. We do recognize the talent; this is just outside of what we normally gravitate to.
@@hanierfamily i have to go back and watch it over to see why i was under the impression that you would enjoy something heavier by them .....anyway i do believe you said that you wanted to continue to react to them .....give it a try .
What they do live is 10 times better than the studio version. As to being rigid, Nightwish prides themselves on being able to delivery their songs as good as if not better than the album version, and now with Floor Jansen who by the way joined the band in Oct 2012 in the middle of their 2012 USA tour with only 48 hrs notice, this concert was recorded 8 months later. Floor is able to delivery the songs with the emotion and passion that was intended when written. She draws her energy from the crowd and her bandmates as she is a true Empath.
She looked really excited in this video. We can't imagine performing in front of a crowd so large.
Classical music is pretty "rigid", and this is symphonic metal after all
Nightwish are very versatile, they can't be categorised or judged from one song. GLS is a good start for what they can do as songwriter, musicians and singer but this rabbit hole is deep🤗🇸🇪
We never stop at one song. That's not a good way to get a true taste of a band. We'll be doing more Nightwish soon.
Nightwish is versatile. Floor has no word that is versatile enough to describe her vocal versatilities.
Well, to be fair, the album version of this song sounds very different, because it has a different singer. Floor is a part of Nightwish since 2012, but the band is back from the 90's and had 3 different singers during the time, but with Floor, they now have found the perfect match. The first one Tarja was a great opera singer, but very limited to that opera style of singing. Anette was more a rock/pop voice and had her struggles with the operatic stuff. Floor can do it all.
Floor is the 3rd and current singer of Nightwish. The songs that you recall may have been from the 1st or 2nd singers. I'm not a fan of their voices. Floor is extremely versatile with a powerful and pitch perfect voice. There were no 'flop' notes. Her voice has been analyzed by a computer on the channel 'Wings of Pegasus' and the outcome was that she has one of the most pitch perfect voices on the planet. Nightwish plays a huge variety of styles, and all their songs are quite different from each other. There's probably a few that you would enjoy.
Shout out to Wings of Pegasus. I really enjoy his analysis. Thanks for mentioning him. He deserves more viewers.
Who ever does the sound, mixing, producing and the like. Seem to know what ever bands sound needs. Best live recordings i have ever heard.
Yeah. The production of this performance was tight. They must have an excellent team.
This song is from the album Once. At that time it was sung by Nightwish's first singer Tarja. This version was only created in 2012/2013 and got a new ending with the third singer. Floor is a mix of her two predecessors and more.
Many songs sound like film music. Others like folk or pop. Every song can surprise you.
Another song from this album:
NIGHTWISH - Romanticide (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO)
Nightwish Army (UK) reporting in
Greetings, this was a very nice reaction, thank you
You noticed the precision, and it was necessary for this song
This song uses a backing track with orchestral and choral music that the band composed and had The London Philharmonic Orchestra record for them. In order to utilise a backing track accuracy is paramount and is a testament to the quality of their musicianship
And here we thought it was the keyboardist making all that sound. It was excellently played.
@@hanierfamily The keyboardist is the main composer for the group and he did compose the orchestral and choral sections, but unfortunately unless you can drag a full orchestra on tour with you the only way to achieve the deep rich sound is to use backing tracks. Tuomas (keyboardist) probably does kick off a lot of those recordings himself and will have some choral tones set to his keys so that he can play them himself
I was at this concert and never heard of Nightwish ! Alice Cooper played before Nightwish and i was watching them , so i was way in the back when they came on =( I was hooked on them with the opening song " Dark Chest of Wonders " Check it out please =)
Welcome to the Nightwish Army!!!! YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THE NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Must be the grumpiest faces i have seen in a reaction for years 😋😈🇧🇻
Not grumpy. Thoughtful. 😀
Thanks for the reaction :) I must say its hard to fit Nightwish in a box because they have so many styles and sounds. No song sounds the same. So captivating.. This performance of Ghost Love Score was actually very different from the original recording with the vocalist Tarja who was with Nightwish from 1996 -2005. Looking forward to more Nightwish reactions. It´s an incredible journey :D
We'll have to revisit this song with Tarja to hear the difference. We've noticed that a number of people in our audience have differing opinions of what version of their favourite song is the best to listen to. I'm thinking a livestream of all the songs we've covered done the way we didn't hear them before.
@@hanierfamily I would love for you to react to Nightwish performing Ever Dream live at Wacken 2013. It´s the same show but you will see contrast in the way they sound whilst still being mindblowingly good. You will also get a glimpse of Marko´s voice (Bass player). He is really good too. All the best
Hello. I hope you realized you were watching the most versatile singer in the world, Floor Jansen. Nightwish is so much more than 'theatrical music'. Think rock in 'Storytime', hard metal in 'Dark Chest of Wonders' and even jazz in Slow Slow. Nightwish has it all and name one band that is as good live as Nightwish. Next one? Storytime of course. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi guys. Good reaction. Every live Nightwish song is so different. Nightwish is one of those rare bands that are better live than in studio. Check out Gabriel Bardac's lengthy comment and his self-replies where he provides many links to other Nightwish live performances. By the way, Floor Jansen is the third and current female lead for Nightwish. My guess is you listened to one of the previous singers. If you want to hear one of their harder and faster songs, check out "Yours is an Empty Hope", the show opener at Wembley 2015. Here's the link:
th-cam.com/video/vyLsU7Q333k/w-d-xo.html
Always great to see new members join the Nightwish Army. Welcome and enjoy your journey through the Nightwish rabbithole.
I get what you're saying about little improvisation on stage or live additions to songs that make them sound a bit different every time you hear them live. But it's easier to do when there's no backing tracks involved. The whole orchestra part of the Nightwish songs comes from the backing tracks so there's not a whole lot of room for improvisation or anything like that. They have done a bit adjusting to the songs during the years, but not like they are different in every individual concert, more like "let's do it like this on this tour". So it's not just 3-5 players on stage that are jamming with each other - with Nightwish we are talking about big compositions that include a whole orchestra. As brilliant musicians they could easily improvise and show off their skills, but they are playing to do justice to the songs. 😊
That's fair. We definitely appreciate that. It's excellently played.
@@hanierfamily Yeah, it's basically a matter of genre and taste. While I appreciate and love the thing Nightwish and other symphonic metal bands do, I can enjoy good impros, too. Like the ones in jazz and "basic" rock and so on. Good music is good music, no matter what style. 👍
Glad you decided to react to this band..Welcome to Symphonic Metal.this is with their 3rd singer Floor Jansen,a 6’1” Dutch vocal beast who’s had classical training and been with the band since 2012.They’re definitely a band that are better live,their studio stuff is good but it’s their live performances where they shine…they go from operatic though to rock,folk,Celtic and on to thrash and everything in between,hope you decide to dip your toe into some more.IGabriel will be along soon I guess with much more info to drop on you,all his links have all great audio quality and are from the best concerts performance wise😊👍
As a 60+ year old who grew up with many bands that couldn't approximate their studio recordings live, I welcome NW's rigid style. One example is Boston, who I had seen live a few times, just didn't come close to the tightness of the originals. Toto was the kind of band that was as tight live and recorded but actually change things up for each concert. Nightwish uses an orchestral backing track for most all their music which does not lend itself to much song variation which is a big part of why they can't stray too far. Good reaction guys, will def return to check out more. Ever Dream is more mainstream and might be more to your liking, Cheers!
I don’t agree with you. Because night sounds way, way, way, better live. Than any of there studio recordings. Especially Wacken. Because who ever produces/mixes Wacken. Seems to be creep of the crop.
When you want to go further on the path of our 1.83m tall Dutch Valkyrie Queen Floor Jansen besides Nightwish, here is some background information on the best and most versitale female singer of our time. Floor joined the band 'After Forever' in 1997 at the age of 16. Here are some of my favourites:
Energize me: th-cam.com/video/fjm4BrNAf6s/w-d-xo.html
Monolith of Doubt: th-cam.com/video/3TmKHkQx45U/w-d-xo.html
Dreamflight: th-cam.com/video/73-_F9prx4I/w-d-xo.html
Floor attended the then new Rock Academy in 1999 and graduated in 2003. She also studied 2 years at the Conservatory (1 year Music Theatre and 1 year Opera). Here is a link to a part of a TV show (with english subtitles) of the reunion of the class of the Rock Academy with mostly backstage footage of the Tampere concert of Nightwish in 2015: th-cam.com/video/B3NIfu0qvtg/w-d-xo.html
'After Forever' disbanded in 2009 and Floor started her own band 'Revamp' from scratch. Here she experimented with different vocal styles within one song. Here are some examples:
Misery’s no Crime: th-cam.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/w-d-xo.html
Disdain: th-cam.com/video/tIqzPXzhEuw/w-d-xo.html
Wild card: th-cam.com/video/GpZMFALYeGc/w-d-xo.html
Besides managing a band on her own she also did a lot of vocal coaching and as she is a perfectionist, she wants to do everything at 100%+. Eventually she had to pay the price and got a burnout. She had just recovered when end of september 2012 the call came from Nightwish to fill in for the remainder of the North American Tour at first as their second singer Annette got ill. Floor had just 48 hours to learn the whole setlist. There is a documentary made of this world tour: th-cam.com/video/vhExkmWKMEU/w-d-xo.html
Floor joined Nightwish after this iconic Wacken concert in 2013 as permanent member of the band. Floor continued to perform with 'Revamp’ also, but it was clear that she could not combine the two for much longer, so 'Revamp' disbanded in 2016. Floor did a side project called 'Northward' where she dived into the Hard Rock scene. The song 'While Love Died is a must see:: th-cam.com/video/bAiPeSsqD-4/w-d-xo.html
A suggestion to a christmas song sung by Floor. Here is a link to a performance in Finland with a special guest with the best seat you could imagine: th-cam.com/video/ym1Wc5dmUYc/w-d-xo.html
Her stunning performances on the Dutch TV show 'Beste Zangers 2019' gave her at last some more recognition in her home country where she was relatively unknown until then. There are numerous guest appearances with other bands to find on TH-cam. To see how to get a crowd of metalheads silenced and in awe watch her featuring with the band 'Epica' and the song 'Stabat Mater Dolorosa:, th-cam.com/video/QqdvFPBGN0c/w-d-xo.html
and to see her in full opera mode, watch her rendition of 'O Mio Babbino Caro' from Puccini: th-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/w-d-xo.html
As live concerts were cancelled in 2019 and 2020 and home isolation due to the Covid situation, Floor discovered TH-cam. Mindblowing covers, chats with her idols and other singers, vocal masterclasses, personal insights and so much more. She even made a video reacting to herself singing Ghost Love Score at Wacken. Lots of technical info and some memories of her starting with Nightwish:. th-cam.com/video/QW_3F186_5Q/w-d-xo.html
Also her Fan Friday videos are hilarious. Just unpack some of the presents she left on her channel. Also videos of her solotour she did with songs of her impressive career. Floor is a high sensitive person, so peace and quiet is as important for her. Living by the woods in Sweden with her husband Hannes Van Dahl (drummer of the band Sabaton), daughter Freja (5 years old), a horse and pony, a dog and a bunch of cats, she found this. Sadly she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she has got surgery yesterday. The prognoses are good however and she wants to be on the European tour which starts november 20th.
I believe it's the London Philharmonic Orchestra on tracks in the background since they can't realistically tour with an orchestra, and I think they also have choirs recorded on tracks too for some song, but their live performances can actually be quite different from one another, Floor certainly has taken some lead in playing around with the vocals parts of many songs and interpreted them differently over the years.
Would be cool if you react to: Nightwish - Dead boy's poem - Live in Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades tour
Thanks for your honest reaction. Thing about Nightwish is they pretty much have songs to fit everyone. From soft ballads to heavy metal and everything in between.
Hello Cynthia and Chriss.
Nightwish Army reporting from the Netherlands.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Nightwish.
They are from Finland.
And they make Symphonic Metal.
What you've heard here is just the tip of what this band can do.
Nightwish really hits you in your heart.
And that's what makes this band so unique.
Her name is Floor Jansen and she is Dutch.
There were 82,000 people there.
I happily refer you to Gabriel Bardac's comment (he'll be here soon) for a list with lots of song suggestion.
Watch out for the Nightwish Army.
Welcome to Nightwish and symphonic metal.
The orchestral tracks are prerecorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra at Angel Studios, London under the direction of Pip Williams.
Choirs were also recorded in England by London's The Metro Voices and young Children's Choir.
The keyboard player and main founder, Tuomas chooses to play the string arrangements in most songs depending on what other sounds he adds to the songs on keyboards.
The 6 foot, Dutch Goddess of all things vocal, is Floor Jansen.
She is classically trained and knows more about how to use the vocal mechanism than any singer you will ever know.
Her versatility is wide which gives her an arsenal of singing styles to choose from.
Her highest note performed live to date is a D6# and she reached it with a smile on her face. (Romanticide- Wacken 2013)
The lineup other than keys and vocals...
Emppu - guitar
Marko - bass/vocals
Jukka - drums
Troy - multi instrumentalist
I'm glad you enjoyed this performance. I found Nightwish in 2020 and never looked back. In fact, I went to see them live this May in New York City.
Best concert I've attended!
This rabbit hole goes deep, so buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Thank you so much for the video, reaction, and comments. Stay safe and stay blessed.
😊❤🤘🤘
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One thing everyone eventually finds out about Nightwish is that this is not your typical "you heard one song, you've heard them all" type of band. Every song is different. So I do ask that you continue your journey and find out for yourself.
You won't regret it. 😉
Welcome to the glorious world of Symphonic Metal, the glorious mash up of symphonic composition, orchestral instruments, and heavy metal. Cynthia probably heard a song with their first singer Tarja who was a classically trained opera singer and some people do find that combination with heavy music somewhat jarring (I don't). This is Floor, their 3rd singer and one of the best, most versatile female singer's IMHO. I had given up on American music some time ago because it was so simplistic and devoid of any meaning. It did nothing to make my life better. Then 3 years ago I discovered Nightwish and then through them a whole different world of music that exist outside of the U.S. Bands with thoughtful and complex instrumentation and lyrics that challenge you to think about big idea's while still being fun. I connect with this music emotionally and it makes me a better person. Hopefully you will continue to listen and explore since Nightwish has many different types of songs, from straight forward chorus/verse songs, to ballads, to epic songs like this that will take you on a journey. Ghost Love Score is not from a movie but is written in a style of a movie score (Tuomas, their main songwriter, is a big fan of movie scores). Maybe try Sleeping Sun, live from Tampere or Master's of Rock for a different side of them.
The rigidity is what their fans want. The music is crafted very carefully and the fans want the same experience live that they felt on the album. I think when you are part of a Nightwish crowd it is the fact that you are sharing your favourite band with so many other people and that you get exactly what you love that makes the experience such an amazing one. In fact that is the very criticism of the second lead singer - she couldn't pull off what the audience was expecting so has been universally bashed. Even though for a lot of us the albums she was involved with are a couple of the best.
idk how many changes Tuomas Holopainen wrote into his score but probably ten so this is not a 'rigid' song. He and the London Symphony Orchestra Conductor worked long hours making this composition the best it could be b/c it is very complicated with key and rythym changes.
This was Floor's big concert b/c she had never before sung in front of 82,000 people. She replaced the previous singer who had gotten pregnant and could not continue on their South American tour.
Floor agreed to a part time job with Nightwish and flew to Seattle where NW was stuck w/o a lead singer. She was given two days to learn the setlist because she had not sung with Nightwish in ten years. From Seattle they toured South America and I think she sang GLS every stop which was 5-6 concerts. After this concert the band asked her to become a permanent member of Nightwish and ten years later she is still their frontwoman.
BTW two weeks ago Floor was diagnosed with breast cancer and underwent the operation yesterday. The tumor was benign and was removed. She plans to go on their European tour starting late November.
Thanks Hanier Family for your high standard in music.
I do agree that experiencing the live show 'in situ' is way better than seeing a video of it.
Yes they are very talented. I myself would not make a fuss over a few off-notes (?) of the singer when she has just delivered such a powerful performance. And yes, the band sure is 'rigid', in that they stick to their score. They have to, with pieces so cut-up into contrasting sentences and so 'crowded in sound', in order to keep it clear. Just like your Mozart and Beethoven (I would think Orff) did not leave any light between the notes of the score.
In Jazz , Blues and some Pop/Rock, obviously, one traditionally can have lots of free-play in designated areas of a number; this is the nature of the styles.
I (Chris) really do feel like I used the wrong word. Some people were put off by it. I meant no disrespect. You must know what I was trying to say. You know this band so well. Sometimes I use words that are in the ballpark, and people misunderstand.
Nightwish is an extremely talented band, and the genius behind the band is Tuomas, the Mozart of Metal, is the keyboard player. Floor Jansen Is the lead singer, who has had classical training. Marko is the bass guitarist and also back up vocals, and lead vocals. Jukka, the Pirate, is the drummer, who sadly had to stop due to a medical condition, but is still with the band in a managerial position. Jukka has been replaced with on of his friends and mentors, Kai. Emppu is the lead guitarist! Not seen in this song is Troy...if you ask him what instrument he plays...he says "Yes!". He is an extremely talented musician, who plays many instruments, background vocals, and sometimes lead vocals.
If you want to hear some of their softer, more gentle music...
" Dead Boy's Poem"
"While your lips are still red"
"Sleeping Sun"
Floor also has three solos out in anticipation of her first solo album ( all done with the blessings of the band) My favorite is her first song is titled:
"Fire"
It's about coming out of the pandemic.
FLOOR, recovery soon ,please. We need you.♥️🌹 And GLS is your Song.🤘🤗
Your dislike the first time you heard them might actually been the singer. This is their third singer, and arguably their best suited vocalist.
Thanks, welcome to Nightwish
We are here....we are everywhere....nightwish army
When you got those goosebumps from hearing her sing, that's what is known as a "Floorgasm".
She's really great.
Another two souls snatched away by the Valkyrie Queen of Metal. Believe me, this is just the tip of the iceberg in regards to Nightwish and Floor's amazing vocal talents. Honestly the greatest female vocalist on the planet bar none.
Thanks "Hanier Family" for the good music by Nightwish and singer Floor Jansen from Germany! 2013 W:O:A= Wacken Open Air near Hamburg/Germany with 82.000 Metalfans. And 2022 W:O:A total sold out.
It's an interesting comment that this is so 'rigid', that they don't deviate from what's written, because the single best and most epic moment in this performance is a deviation from how the song was written ....
much better than studio. Masterpiece of a composition. World class vocalist in Floor.
Nightwish Army USA (Pa) division saying Thanks for the reaction , no two songs sound alike ,you really have no idea yet about them but I hope you try again . This singer is probably different then you 1st time . This is there 3rd singer Floor Jansen 2012 - current
You're correct, I showed them stuff back before Tarja left
Originally Floor was sent by Allfather Odhinn to Midgard to gather the souls of fallen warriors to Valhalla, but she
got distracted and joined a series of bands. However, Floor still gathers souls by her grace, beauty and the sheer power
of her vocals.
We give thanks for her at our Blots regularly and hope that Odhinn won't notice that she has never returned to Asgard.
ALL HAIL THE VALKYRIE GODDESS!!!
The Nightwish Army is incoming! You're not ready!
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I wish I could play so rigidly.
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I believe you would like 'While love died' by Northward. A true hard rock song by Floor Jansen from Nightwish. No symphony music - just a super guitarist Jørn Viggo Lofstad, a drummer - and the most versatile, powerful, skilled and talented storyteller in the century - Floor Jansen in lead. That ROCK!!
th-cam.com/video/bAiPeSsqD-4/w-d-xo.html
😃 Listen In order: this performance, the Buenos Ares performance (when Floor had been with the band about a month) The Wembley performance from 2015, and the studio version with Tarja and then see if you still think it's rigid 😃
I havnt found a band that continues to surprise me as much as this band does, time after time, performance after performance
I guess we have some revisiting to do. And I'm sure we'll need to hear more from Nightwish to get a true feel for them.
This being Symphonic Metal, the backing tracks being live recorded with a full orchestra & choir and played back during their shows, they have to be rigid, this is part of the style.
Welcome to the magical world of Nightwish and Floor Jansen,The Goddess Voice of Heaven and Earth. Enjoy your journey.
how can a song with so many changes be rigid
The album version is very different. Tarja was the singer back then. And Floor really made it her own interpretation. It's very different. And if you see a live performance now, Floor is doing it different again. No copy paste. Nothing rigid about that I think, but indeed, it's rehearsed and so it should be if you're professionals. So check out the studio version, the live version with Tarja, the live version with Annete and a 2022 version with Floor (who is the singer in this video and the current singer). Don't take my word for it, go explore. Maybe you don't agree, that's all right as well. Btw, I do like raw as well.I like Metallica, Foo fighters, Danzig and Rage against the machine. Try 'Your's is an empty hope'. Floor is doing growls there.
God damn, this guy is like " thats it, amatures"
Absolutely not, they are very talented, just doesn't really speak to us.
Thanks 4 reacting!
Interesting that you heard a couple of fluffed notes from Floor, because there are actually none in this performance. I also find this 'rigid' comment very strange, it really confuses me, as a musician, who's played many shows with many bands - you rehearse your music, to play it well, to strive for perfection, that's what you do, snd Nightwish do it better than anyone I've ever seen. Anyway, glad you kind of enjoyed it.
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Heya from Germany 🇩🇪 please react to Dimash Kudaibergen singing "Ogni Pietra" from his own channel (Arnau Concert version). This guy has an 6 octave range and he is trained since the age of 5 years old. It's an very special experience to listen to him. Maybe it's not your cup of tea - but to see and listen to a voice like this 😳 never heard a voice like this. All the best from Germany and stay safe ☀️Petra
Try "Romanticide" for something harder
🤗🍒🤘🏻 how many years ago was that listening to Nightwish, probably not with Floor Jansen as singer !? I would definitely still listen to all of Nightwish's music if I were you, it's a must!
On the first touch with NIghtwish, she felt it, he was gatekeeping it. Let loose, my man! Music is beautiful, don't box it.
The reason that this is suggested is because this singer, Floor Jansen, had only been with the band 10 months and most of the 82,000 had not heard her sing with Nightwish before. 15 songs written for previous two singers one operatic, Tarja, and one pop, Anette and Floor takes them to another level. Parts of this song are so different to album as that singer, Tarja, didn't have the versatility of Floor. Without listening to your reactions it's difficult to tell what you like as you have reacted to such a huge cross section of artists. Then perhaps a song you might enjoy could be suggested from their vast catalogue.
Not sure what you mean by "rigid"? It may be because you're not versed in the art of music, but if you listen carefully, you'll hear many different note and key changes throughout the song, not to mention that the song is sectioned into parts just like a play or opera.
For something raw try How's The heart - the Planet Rock acoustic session version.
Nightwish Army south Brittany France reporting, I've just found your channel, so I'm working through your Nightwish reactions. Welcome to the world of symphonic metal.
A lot of Nightwish music is accompanied by Orchestra and choir backing tracks, any deviation would throw everything out of sync.
The orchestra and choir are real, not synthesized. They have been recorded earlier and are played in the background at the concert and the band has to play the song in exactly the right rhythm.
Nightwish changed my perception of music forever. Also as a fun fact, did you know Floor Jansen is actually married to the drummer of Sabaton?
We know nothing about Sabaton.
@@hanierfamily they are a Swedish powermetal band whose songs teach about world history, usually pertaining to military history. Check out the official music video of their song "Christmas Truce" telling about the unofficial truce between the British and German forces during WW1. Have tissues ready also.
Heavier? Yours is an empty hope, live version too🤘💯
Not necessarily heavier. We actually don't usually listen to metal, but we are open to it. We will add that to our list.
maybe the Live performances of the Dutch TV program : Beste Zangers 2019 ( best singers 2019 ) are something for you.
it is best to watch the videos with the before and after commentary.
the show starts with a performance by Floor Jansen : Floor Jansen - Vilia lied Beste Zangers 2019 .
and also the video with the closing of the show with : Floor Jansen & Henk Poort - Phantom of the opera Beste Zangers 2019,
you should not miss it .
I don’t know there 2 names. But it looked/sounded like the guy didn’t want to say how he really felt. That he really didn’t like it. I would rather he told the truth. I.E tell us to what he didn’t like about it.
There's no deeper meaning. It's played to perfection. Which is great. It makes it a bit rigid, though. I have the same issue with Polyphia. Excellently played. A bit rigid for my taste.
@@hanierfamily I have never even heard of Polythia.
@@hanierfamily when you say rigid. Do you mean that is to doesn’t sound musically stretched out. If that is what you mean. A lot of reactors have said that they love how tight the band sounds.
@@shspurs1342 Polyphia is an instrumental band. They are quite new. They have a song called Ego Death that they did with Steve Vai a month or two ago that sounds great. You should check them out. Or watch our video of the same song. That's one of their songs that we really liked.
@@shspurs1342 Honestly, I (Chris) don't know if that would be the right word. I wish I could think of the right way to say it.
Nightwish certainly isn't a jam band. I do get that not everyone will find NW their go to for casual listening, but it is very hard to not be very impressed with the composition of the music and the technical musicality of the writing along with the amazing delivery. For me at 68 NW was an amazing discovery 20 years ago. I was already a big prog fan from the late 60's to now. The prog bands like Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree blended my love for prog with metal which I never saw coming. Like so many people I have grown up listening to Rock, Blues, Jazz and if it's good, I am in. Of course, some music moves me more or differently. NW for me has the rare commodity of delivering what they promised in their recordings but better, bigger, filled with emotion, still while with precision. Not easy to do and that is why so many live concerts don't live up to the recordings. Great performers and great purveyors of music are rarer than not. I was 13 and 14 when I saw Jimi Hendrix, Cream and the Doors in one calendar year incredible music that is iconic and legendary for me Nightwish although very different from my beloved Led Zeppelin's and Pink Floyd's bring me great joy and the live performances are the best. If you see enough of their performances, you can see that they love what they do, love each other and they love their fans in a genuine way. Not sure I get that vibe from most bands.
check out Epica - design your universe live retrospect next if you want more symphonic goodness
Like your honest opinion. I hope you can broaden your music taste and give some more of Nightwish songs, as they have a lot on their musical scene. You have Gabriel's list on the comment.
I think you'd enjoy like Romanticide (Wacken 2013), Yours is an Empty Hope (Wembley 2015), Shudder Before The Beautiful (Wembley 2015), I Want My Tears Back (Buenos Aires 2018), Greatest Show On Earth (Tampere or Wembley 2015... They actually changed a bit in the beginning in Wembley, instead of backing track the Troy plays the melody on the ebow). Also High Hopes (live from end of an era) is a great cover version.
I appreciate y'all giving it a try. Never know until you do. If you're not into metal but still want to check out some more of Floor's vocals, try Nightwish- How's The Heart acoustic version. She displays some great vocal gymnastics. There are a lot of other videos of hers as well, singing a myriad of different genres. Floor is classically trained, and a former vocal coach who can sing pretty much anything she wants, from opera to metal, even metal growls if you're into that. But you still get a Sub from me for being good sports and expanding your horizons. Cheers!
Thank You, we appreciate it
If you THINK this is all Nightwish has to offer you are SO wrong, Floor even does death metal GROWLS. This is a 'Score", a composition. This is not a regular song. So if you want a straight up METAL song with a SICK guitar riff and Floor doing the growling in all the choruses then do "Yours is an Empty Hope" Live at WEMBLEY.
But bruh, you gotta throw OUT our preconceived and erroneous "idea" of what Nightwish is. Their style is HIGHLY diverse.
We never judge a band by our first listen. We will definitely check out other songs at some point. We don't usually go for metal, especially heavier stuff, but this was suggested, and we are open to checking out all suggestions.
I might be wrong. But i think this is the first Metal song reaction on this Channel.
You might be right. Unless you count Nanowar of Steel. But they're comedy.
Great reaction
Greetings from 🇳🇱 🤘
Keep listening. They'll surprise you. Great reaction!
Yep, best poker faces I've seen on reactors. And I've seen a lot of them. :)
Nightwish Army New York here welcome 👋 if, you want to continue with this great band, I think it's time for a little story 😉 try "Storytime" from this same show.
Check out Tuomas Holopainen, Lifetime Of Adventure. Something different from Nightwish specifically.
Hello Cynthia and Chris!
While you were napping on this band they grew up exploded with the addition of their third singer, Floor Jansen (who you just reacted to).
IMO, their studio recordings are basically demos.
When they get on stage is when the magic happens! This event, on this night, with this lineup are the new reference for live performances. Every song on this night, 15 songs in the set, is your next favorite song.
No joke!
The best part... you also opened a dimensional portal to the Galaxy of Symphonic Metal.
Ghost Love Score, GLS for shorthand, is a gateway drug into the addiction of NW!
This lineup, for many, is their best. Sadly, two of the brilliant musicians have left for health reasons. Jukka, the drummer, left full-time drumming to be part of the management team. Marco, the bassist, has taken a "sabbatical" holiday from the industry for his mental health.
The Wäcken recording is certainly one of the best "live" productions, of any, and the best source for NW performances.
The sun, the moon and stars were in harmony and the gods were pleased for this Headlining band, for the premier metal festival, possibly in the world, certainly in Europe.
Gabriel has provided a map for the journey to enlightenment. And while it's a comprehensive read for NW lore, it's not a Bible. Sometimes the road less traveled leads to unintended discoveries. (Some of my past comments regarding Gabriel's "Introduction and welcome to the army" message seemingly alienated me from the fandom. Most of the NW Army are loyal, informative, supportive and enthusiastic. Some are inviting and inclusive. Some are elitist, possessive and exclusive. But one thing is certain...all of them are passionate!)
For my tastes, I think Ever Dream is the perfect followup and great introduction to Marco's pure metal vocals. As mentioned above, the Wäcken show should be your primary source for about 14 or 15 songs... the set being 15 tracks😜
NW and Nightwish adjacent projects are plentiful.
The list of performers that are connected to this lineup is staggering. Most notably is AYREON.
Ayreon is a project conceived by the brilliantly gifted Arjen Lucassen.
Multi-instrumentalist and creator of the Ayreon universe, Arjen enlists the best talent from across the genre, (Symphonic Metal) and globe to give life to his imagination. And it is VAST!
I wanted you to know that the community you're now a part of is Very welcoming, passionate AND excited to join you on your MOST EPIC EXPLORATION of your new FAVORITE BAND, singer(s), musicians and community.
The community includes, but certainly not limited to... After Forever, Revamp, Tarot
Ayreon...of course
Epica... (female lead) you'll see for yourself
Kamelot
Avantasia
Dream Theater (considered one of the pioneers)
Within Temptation (female lead)
Amaranth (female lead)
Delain (female lead)
Elysion (female lead)
Nemesea (female lead)
The Dark Element (female lead, sensing a theme?)
Evergrey
Myrath
Sonata Arctica
And so, so many more...
Welcome to the army! Colorado division reporting for duty!
We are not die-hard fans of any band or artist really. We are fans of music.
@@hanierfamily ...then you have taken the first step into an amazing genre...
By no means is my list of 'other' bands and artists a complete list.
But you will find it's a beautiful community. 'Metal' has some prejudice and preconception challenges to overcome and the Symphonic Metal sub-genre is so NOT typical.
The artists are so amazing and regularly work together and cross-pollinate ideas, talent and knowledge to increase and improve their 'family'.
Some of the artists I list are lesser known, but equally gifted and I gravitate towards some of those.
Right now I am exploring the Evergrey catalog and have discovered some real gems.
WHERE AUGUST MOURN
TOUCH OF BLESSING
SILENT ARC
Nightwish Army Dutch division checking in...
Nice to see that you found Nightwish, first of all, Nightwish music/songs are EXTREMLY versatile, no song is like the other and you should concentrate on the live performances because of the energy that band give/receive from the audience.
If you want a Official video that is not live I suggest to check out Elan, th-cam.com/video/zPonioDYnoY/w-d-xo.html
There is some very nice Official Lyric videos from their latest album Human. :II: Nature also.
Nightwish - Storytime (OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO) pls 🤗😊😀😃
Heavier song and newer show? Nightwish "Devil and Deep Dark Ocean" - Buenos Aires live. Old band, they earn one react from you more. Greetings from Finland
Less operatic rigid songs may be "I want my tears back", "Storytime" and "Song of myself" from the same 2013 Wacken show, they're not as heavy as you think. A big challenge for you may be "The greatest show on Earth", the album version is 24 minutes long, for a complete experience the Wembley live 2015 version with the presence of the person who does the narrative parts of the song (th-cam.com/video/qrMwxe2ya5E/w-d-xo.html) it´s only 21 minutes long 😀. Side note, Thuomas the keyboard guy is the composer of almost everything.
When this song is performed live the lead singer changes it up a bit like every other great singer and band.
I liked your honest and respectful reaction.
You said you like more 'raw' sounding music.
I think you probably would like following Nightwish songs, because they are more 'raw' sounding:
While Your Lips Are Still Red (IMO this song is raw - on the softer side) - Live at Wembley Arena
Yours is an empty hope (IMO this song is raw - on the harder side) - Live at Wembley Arena
I Want My Tears Back - Decades - Live In Buenos Aires 2019 - IMO this performance is raw
And maybe you would like Marko Hietala's solo songs (for example: Isäni ääni). I think his style is raw sounding.
Marko is the former bassist of Nightwish (you saw him in this video).
Of course all that depends on what you mean by 'raw' :)
Thnx 4 this. Go on with the stuff. Welcome to the Nightwish army^^.
Please listen to Song of myself at Wacken. And, i am sure this will leave you speachless, the Gratest show on earth at Tampere.
Due to Marco's voice , the wiking bassman, give The phantom of the opera a try,
the"old" Nightwish singer Tarja will show her quality as well. Peace from Germany and please stay save.
I wouldn't have watched this one for a newcomer .. watch others from the Wacken concert as each one is different to the last and may be more your taste.
The raw less perfect but still world class band your maybe looking for is 'Jinjer'! They are from warzone Ukraine. Skip their more than 60 million hitter 'Pisces live Studio' and just dive into their high energy performance 'Perennial' live also at Wacken Open Air. A 'simple' four piece unit with loads of talent, top shelf musicianship. Totally different than NW but you will be intriged as many already do. Ps: this performance of Nightwish is just the tip of the iceberg. They are so versatile and have such a huge catalogue that even I, not loving the genre, am impressed. Their super high level live perfomances are way more entertaining and better than their studio work. And that is an interesting thing to analyse further. Succes and have fun.
I giggled when you said the studio version must be very similar. This song wasn’t even wrote for Floor. 😆❤️🙏🏻 Once you get more info, you will look back and giggle too. 🥰
I got to the end and I’m crackin up. Floor had not been with the band but 8 months at this point. (I think)
One the most frequent comments about them is that you never know what your going to get. They even change up the set list from show to show. Cool, eh? 👍🏻👏🏻🥰🎃
We don't know much about them yet. I am sure we will listen to more.
@@hanierfamily cheers to your adventure! Blessings to you and your family. 🙏🏻❤️🤘🏻
You two make me think of that Norman Rockwell thing of the guy with the pitchfork and his wife...someone should check your vitals see if youre actually alive
I don’t think anything is performed well if it isn’t practiced a lot. Especially the music Nightwish makes. There are so many switches within songs and that requires perfect timing which they all seem to have. Floor is their 3rd singer and in my opinion the best because she has it all. Especially that rough metal voice she added to Nightwish and her singing together with Marko the bassist is amazing. They have some other songs you might like some more. This one is really like a score. But they have a lot of variaton. Songs that are way more metal like “Song of myself”, “Romanticide”, “Tribal”, Ghost river” or “Slaying the dreamer” or softer songs like “How is the heart” or “Dead boys poem” or more hit songs like “Ever dream” and “Amaranth” or like growling with “Yours is an empty hope” or jazz with “Slow love slow” or crazy songs like “Devil and the deep dark ocean” or songs with a lot of emotion switches like “The Poet and the Pendulum”.
Welcome to Nightwish and our 6'1 Valkyrie Godess Floor Jansen. (There 3rd and current singer) I see that Gen Gabriel has visited you. Follow his lead on all things Nightwish and you can't go wrong. Nightwish Army North Florida Airborne Div reporting in. Enjoy.
Great reaction. Welcome to Nightwish. As others have pointed out, every song is different, so perhaps there are things that might hit better. As for your "too rigid" comment, are you sure that is the word you are going for? Based on that, I would have to think that you would also find Pink Floyd too rigid. They also rely heavily on precision and timing, especially for their elaborate light shows. FWIW, this song as performed here is quite different from the album. Not only was it a different lead singer, but the ending of the song is quite different. If lack of rigidity is your thing, perhaps a jam band like the Grateful Dead would be a good fit.
We never really checked out the Dead much. Perhaps we'd like it. Honestly, one song can never be enough to understand a band and their sound. We'll be returning to Nightwish soon.
@@hanierfamily thank you for the kind response. I am glad that you will be continuing the Nightwish journey. With 3 lead singers (plus Marko the bass player who is also an amazing singer) and songs that range from ballads, to sea shanty to Celtic influenced jigs to rock and metal (some with impressive growling by Floor), this rabbit hole is quite deep and there is something for everyone.
As for the Grateful Dead, this is another deep rabbit hole. Like Nightwish, stick with the live shows. GD music is more a combination of Blue Grass, Jug Band, Blues, Jazz, Country, Folk and a mixture of progressive and psychedelic rock. The live stuff is very improvisational and they mix a lot of classic rock covers (Dylan, The Band, Janis Joplin, and many others) in with their originals.
I've seen reactors astounded, thrilled, amused, confused, and indifferent to this song. I've never someone look irritated...Heh...
I was not irritated..... I was listening. :) This is my first listen. I'll get my head around it.
I have to say that this the first reaction video to this song where the reactor actually looks bored. OK. If it's not your particular thing, so be it. But for there to be no reaction on your faces to that Floor's final note is beyond belief.
Not bored, just taking it in for the first time. We did say she has a very powerful voice.
Nightwish is great in studio, but yes they keep tweaking and perfecting live.
Try Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down - The Source (2017) th-cam.com/video/oFuMKdrzPqU/w-d-xo.html
And Ayreon - Valley of the Queens (Anneke van Giersbergen, Floor Jansen, Marcela Bovio) th-cam.com/video/TbebO5BZi-I/w-d-xo.html
Or Star One - Fate of Man (Brittney Slayes, Michael Romeo) th-cam.com/video/vn7P3oVMnys/w-d-xo.html
Or Ambeon - Ashes (Simone Simons) (Electric Castle Live And Other Tales) th-cam.com/video/ZLR3aTqlBNg/w-d-xo.html
Or Guilt Machine - Twisted Coil (Damian Wilson) (Electric Castle And Other Tales) th-cam.com/video/gcHn0kCgmAs/w-d-xo.html
Was your earlier experience with a different singer?
Can you remember what the song was about?
Click track and backing of the London Philharmonic Orchestra helps, a bit :)
Crewish look after the pyro, lighting, video wall, set-up.
Yeah. That's one hell of a team running that show.
First break. Two points - First, Floor is the third vocalists the band has heard, so what you have heard before, even if were the same song, could really be different than what you heard here. Second, I would have no real interest in hearing this band's records. Much more organic listening to them live. This performance though, specifically, is one of the best video recordings I've ever heard.
I don't consider myself a Nightwish fan like the majority of the folks you'll find here. I'm really a fan of Floor's and her solo projects, which, after seeing her solo performances from her appearance on the Dutch tv show Beste' Zangers solidified my fandom of Floor and introduced me to Nightwish. So, to promote Floor I'm going to take the liberty of posting a selected playlist of live performances that I consider the most enjoyable for me from her catalog of solo projects.
2019 - Beste' Zangers
Solo cover of "Shallow" (Lady Gaga) - th-cam.com/video/M68pe4a_9zk/w-d-xo.html
Duet cover of "Phantom of the Opera" w/ Henk Poort - th-cam.com/video/plCScjvDOJM/w-d-xo.html
2021 - solo Amsterdam Concert
Storm in a Glass - th-cam.com/video/7ax5nSPB9t8/w-d-xo.html
Slow, Love, Slow - th-cam.com/video/bBG8GdyLYDk/w-d-xo.html
2022 - Recently released singles from her upcoming 2023 solo album. There are music videos of these singles but I prefer the more organic live versions. All three venues provided excellent acoustics
"Fire" - recorded at HLF8 - th-cam.com/video/rqwHMgo_DdQ/w-d-xo.html
"Storm" w/orchastra - th-cam.com/video/8dAP8Mjgh_E/w-d-xo.html
"Me Without You" - First public performance - th-cam.com/video/R6LmRR-rgss/w-d-xo.html
Bonus reel - Floor sings the phonebook - th-cam.com/video/CLUr1DLwEQg/w-d-xo.html
She's an excellent singer.
If you are very lucky you will get to Shoemaker.