I got one of those about 30 years ago. I just mounted it diagonally on the drill press table (floor-mounted style with mounting slots). It looks weird, but that way, I can reach all three handles.
My top tip would be, do it on a towel Because there is little ball bearings that you might lose. But apart from that, it's very easy and straight forward. Goodluck and let us know how you like it when it's modified. 👍👍👍
@@oraclescave Just ended the deed. Completely disassembly, hand filed and rectified all sliding surfaces and polished them, filed and polished the levers, cleaned all the gunk and excess of fake japaning mina had (it was black), drilled new wholes and tapped them, put some fancy allen screws, reassembly, oil and general cleanup. Now its the vise I hope I purchased. Thanks a lot for the idea!!
@@Codename-B good job, now that beats just throwing it in the trash. And you will feel kinda rewarded for doing it yourself. I still think its a bit strange that the vice came back-to-front in the first place lol 😆
@@oraclescave I guess its either bad design and lack of QC or maybe it was not ment to be used for a drill press the size we own. Anyways, now I own a fairly good vise for a very low cost, and of course, the satisfaction of outsmarting people who make a living out of making this stuff.
Watching this I saw a problem. The vise is actually able to open very wide, and the screw would obviously come out far which is good. I think a solution for holding small work is to add a block in between the back vise block (fixed) and the work piece. This would bring the work piece to the center of the vise and fall below the drill press chuck. One crazy situation.
Just remove the flapping holding vice handle and weld on a large nut then use a large socket and ratchet to tighten work in the vice after you do the holding vice position reversal. I fond this cure works well.
Just bought something very similar off eBay and have the same problem. Tried to return it, but postage makes it not worth it. The thing weighs a ton. Obviously not designed for hobby drill presses like my cheapo Silverline. Gonna try selling it on Facebook marketplace.
Try lose the handles, fit some long hex nuts, or drilled hex bar to the ends of both shafts, then use a T bar with socket or similar to tighten the vice and operate the slide.
ORACLE'S CAVE thank you I’m looking at a Wilton but I’m thinking an xy table might be better. Or I’m getting both to try. Thank you so much for the reply
No branding at all. Usually SILVERLINE or Draper brand these kind of things in the uk. But this was a very rough around the edges tool, so I dont think anyone was brave enough to put their company logo onto it. Ebay job straight off the boat from shenzeng CHINA. 👍👍👍
I have the exact same cross-side vice. And it is totally obvious they are NOT make for any precision work. You can work with them and make them a lot better. But they will never be a precision piece of equipment! Once you accept that scenario, you use it for what it is. The end play is so bad that if you are trying to do anything reassembling quality using it, it becomes a hit and miss effort. But for general work, it works...cruelly obviously. If you do the work that is so needed to one of them, you basically build a new cross-slide vice.
You can actually make them into a precision tool, but you basically have to remanufacure every component and re-machine the original castings to correct all the dreadful misalignment. Here's the kit of parts that I made for mine: th-cam.com/video/5v4M_QfRAgU/w-d-xo.html It's now a genuinely precision vice that would be good enough to mill on.
Because it would cost me more than I paid for it to send it back. Plus they ended up fully refunding me when they seen pictures of the damage and poor construction. So now after fixing it, I have a fully functioning cross slide vise that I never spent a penny on. That my friend is a BONUS. 👍👍👍
Yes I know, I was planning on removing the base from the drill, and attaching the whole thing to my wall on a sliding bracket. Unfortunately this cross slide vice was extremely poor quality and built back to front. But I had no issues using on my drill press, it worked fine after I swapped the vice parts around and modified it. But yes it is designed for an actual drill press, not this small imitation drill press, but anything can be made to fit anything with a little bit of messing around lol 👍👍👍👍
I think any of these cheap vices are the same. What you're buying is an engineering project that should end up as a vice 😂 I got a cheap drill press vice that looked like it'd been knocked up using scrap. It'll be good when I've finished with it.
You should do the modification, it's easy and straight forward, and you really can't make it any worse than it arrived from the factory. And makes it very useable once swapped around. You will need a tap and die kit for threading the bolt holes you drill on the other side. 👍👍👍
It’s going to be a pain in the ass. Why don’t you try taking the base off the bench drill. Try attach it to your worktop, maybe whole saw the worktop put drill in and attach it underneath so you can then move the vice to where you need it.
Good idea Billy, I was planning on welding up another pipe to it and mounting it on the wall, possibly on a hinge so I can fold it out of the way. But I might just steal your idea lol Thanks bud 👍👍👍
Idea: fix the base firmly on the worktop and turn the head 180 degrees? You can also firmly fix the part on a steel plate of 100x100x5mm for example and tighten the plate between the wide open jaws? The jaws thus remain outside the working area which is lowered to the level of the slides. We can do both. It takes ten minutes and nothing is damaged. 😉
@@oraclescave he posted a crazy rant video accusing me, rob Yorkshire detector and metal detecting face of making a fake channel and harassing him lol he's lost the plot
@@Thebigmanmetaldetecting has he deleted a video ? Because I didn't hear him mentioning anyone's name in that video. Maybe all the stress from haters is getting to him a bit and he was just venting some rage lol But if he named you guys specifically in a different video... Erm... Maybe just over thinking some comments or something. Bit strange, have you talked to him yet ?
@@oraclescave Really? I've been looking at the whole lot of them and no one seems to have a good word or has not had to "repair" them first. Are these Wilton's you're looking at the same ones from Amazon and eBay that are listed anywhere from $500 to a well over a $1,000? I was looking at a 5" and the reviews are horrible. The best review I've heard has been for a Wen which is really surprising to me. It still needed work just not as much as the others.
@@cityguyusa I was meaning compared to the cross slide vise I bought lol. I suppose all mass produced stuff will have tolerance issues, just a shame that it happens in the things you need micro adjustments with. Too good to be true. Either way I find I don't need the MEGA precision so it doesn't really matter which one I use, even the cheap ones have acceptable tolerances, and any of them with an issue is easily fixed, unlike the expensive super solid parts that need milled not filed. 👍👍👍
I got one of those about 30 years ago. I just mounted it diagonally on the drill press table (floor-mounted style with mounting slots). It looks weird, but that way, I can reach all three handles.
Got same, put the top ones on 1 side. Worked.
Got the same one, same problems. Im gona give your fix a try. Thanks!
My top tip would be, do it on a towel
Because there is little ball bearings that you might lose.
But apart from that, it's very easy and straight forward.
Goodluck and let us know how you like it when it's modified.
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@@oraclescave Just ended the deed. Completely disassembly, hand filed and rectified all sliding surfaces and polished them, filed and polished the levers, cleaned all the gunk and excess of fake japaning mina had (it was black), drilled new wholes and tapped them, put some fancy allen screws, reassembly, oil and general cleanup.
Now its the vise I hope I purchased.
Thanks a lot for the idea!!
@@Codename-B good job, now that beats just throwing it in the trash.
And you will feel kinda rewarded for doing it yourself.
I still think its a bit strange that the vice came back-to-front in the first place lol 😆
@@oraclescave I guess its either bad design and lack of QC or maybe it was not ment to be used for a drill press the size we own. Anyways, now I own a fairly good vise for a very low cost, and of course, the satisfaction of outsmarting people who make a living out of making this stuff.
Watching this I saw a problem. The vise is actually able to open very wide, and the screw would obviously come out far which is good. I think a solution for holding small work is to add a block in between the back vise block (fixed) and the work piece. This would bring the work piece to the center of the vise and fall below the drill press chuck. One crazy situation.
Yes you are correct, that would also help in making this tool useful.
As the small bench drills are very small.
Just remove the flapping holding vice handle and weld on a large nut then use a large socket and ratchet to tighten work in the vice after you do the holding vice position reversal. I fond this cure works well.
Can the way he tighten up i think you could use a sandpaper with a flat pad to sand the ways flat and square
Yes, I polished up ways after smoothing with sandpaper block.
Much better like this.
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Impressed with your handiwork! Well done! :)
Lol thanks Linnee, I do love to tinker around with things.
Just bought something very similar off eBay and have the same problem. Tried to return it, but postage makes it not worth it. The thing weighs a ton. Obviously not designed for hobby drill presses like my cheapo Silverline. Gonna try selling it on Facebook marketplace.
Damn. That surface plate has seen better days.
Major cracks, pits, divets and crevices, you would think I was describing a mountain instead of a finely milled tool lol
I was given a very similar vise. In essence, like you, I disassembled the entire thing and tried making it work. It really isn't very good.
Yes Felix it is very poor quality, I made mine very useable, but nowhere near precise lol
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I hope you got a really good sale price.
Yes it was only ,£18 and the company gave me a full refund when they seen the damage.
So in the end it was free, and it still works.
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@@oraclescave Great!
Try lose the handles, fit some long hex nuts, or drilled hex bar to the ends of both shafts, then use a T bar with socket or similar to tighten the vice and operate the slide.
Looking for a high quality sliding vise what would be a recommendation? I feel they all are getting bad reviews
Wilton vise would be the highest quality most people aim for.
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ORACLE'S CAVE thank you I’m looking at a Wilton but I’m thinking an xy table might be better. Or I’m getting both to try. Thank you so much for the reply
I got one these bits of junk and have the same problem, i'm looking at taking the vice handle off and welding a nut on to use a ratchet.
Yeah, this was a total fail in producing a tool, and the damage was crazy.
Back to front engineering at its finest lol
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Very good man
Thanks
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Thank you for sharing, wath it is one a cheap cross table.
I had to do major on mine, if it has the little steel balls it will work better without them.
Nice one, I will give it try.
Thanks for the tip Mike.
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What brand is your china made vise?
No branding at all.
Usually SILVERLINE or Draper brand these kind of things in the uk.
But this was a very rough around the edges tool, so I dont think anyone was brave enough to put their company logo onto it.
Ebay job straight off the boat from shenzeng CHINA.
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I have the exact same cross-side vice. And it is totally obvious they are NOT make for any precision work. You can work with them and make them a lot better. But they will never be a precision piece of equipment! Once you accept that scenario, you use it for what it is. The end play is so bad that if you are trying to do anything reassembling quality using it, it becomes a hit and miss effort. But for general work, it works...cruelly obviously. If you do the work that is so needed to one of them, you basically build a new cross-slide vice.
You can actually make them into a precision tool, but you basically have to remanufacure every component and re-machine the original castings to correct all the dreadful misalignment. Here's the kit of parts that I made for mine: th-cam.com/video/5v4M_QfRAgU/w-d-xo.html It's now a genuinely precision vice that would be good enough to mill on.
So nice
Thank you
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Why not send it back?
Because it would cost me more than I paid for it to send it back.
Plus they ended up fully refunding me when they seen pictures of the damage and poor construction.
So now after fixing it, I have a fully functioning cross slide vise that I never spent a penny on.
That my friend is a BONUS.
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This vise is designed for a larger, floor standing drill press, with a larger table.
Trying to make it work on a mini drill press introduces problems.
Yes I know, I was planning on removing the base from the drill, and attaching the whole thing to my wall on a sliding bracket.
Unfortunately this cross slide vice was extremely poor quality and built back to front.
But I had no issues using on my drill press, it worked fine after I swapped the vice parts around and modified it.
But yes it is designed for an actual drill press, not this small imitation drill press, but anything can be made to fit anything with a little bit of messing around lol
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I think any of these cheap vices are the same. What you're buying is an engineering project that should end up as a vice 😂
I got a cheap drill press vice that looked like it'd been knocked up using scrap. It'll be good when I've finished with it.
i want one .howmatch cost
£18 GBP
£45.26
I have this one and almost same problem ;-]
You should do the modification, it's easy and straight forward, and you really can't make it any worse than it arrived from the factory.
And makes it very useable once swapped around.
You will need a tap and die kit for threading the bolt holes you drill on the other side.
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@@oraclescave two days ago i did it,now i enjoy :-D Thanks to you!
@@MrAndrjuha I'm glad it helped you, good job.
Thanks for coming back to let me know.
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It’s going to be a pain in the ass.
Why don’t you try taking the base off the bench drill.
Try attach it to your worktop, maybe whole saw the worktop put drill in and attach it underneath so you can then move the vice to where you need it.
Good idea Billy, I was planning on welding up another pipe to it and mounting it on the wall, possibly on a hinge so I can fold it out of the way.
But I might just steal your idea lol
Thanks bud 👍👍👍
Idea: fix the base firmly on the worktop and turn the head 180 degrees?
You can also firmly fix the part on a steel plate of 100x100x5mm for example and tighten the plate between the wide open jaws? The jaws thus remain outside the working area which is lowered to the level of the slides.
We can do both. It takes ten minutes and nothing is damaged. 😉
Put some oil in that
Cool video buddy,have seen mark's latest video you should have a look 👀
Cheers Simon, what video do you mean ? I saw one with pipes one with ginger beers and a mudlarking hunt
@@oraclescave he posted a crazy rant video accusing me, rob Yorkshire detector and metal detecting face of making a fake channel and harassing him lol he's lost the plot
th-cam.com/video/S5zy6zKHTsY/w-d-xo.html
@@Thebigmanmetaldetecting has he deleted a video ?
Because I didn't hear him mentioning anyone's name in that video.
Maybe all the stress from haters is getting to him a bit and he was just venting some rage lol
But if he named you guys specifically in a different video... Erm... Maybe just over thinking some comments or something.
Bit strange, have you talked to him yet ?
ORACLE'S CAVE what's your email address I don't want to post all this on your page mate
Shade....lol
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This is ridiculous how terrible the manufacturing is on these. Even the Wilton's are junk for $800.
Some if the wiltons I've seen are masterpieces, I would be scared to put a drill bit near them lol
@@oraclescave Really? I've been looking at the whole lot of them and no one seems to have a good word or has not had to "repair" them first. Are these Wilton's you're looking at the same ones from Amazon and eBay that are listed anywhere from $500 to a well over a $1,000? I was looking at a 5" and the reviews are horrible. The best review I've heard has been for a Wen which is really surprising to me. It still needed work just not as much as the others.
@@cityguyusa I was meaning compared to the cross slide vise I bought lol.
I suppose all mass produced stuff will have tolerance issues, just a shame that it happens in the things you need micro adjustments with.
Too good to be true.
Either way I find I don't need the MEGA precision so it doesn't really matter which one I use, even the cheap ones have acceptable tolerances, and any of them with an issue is easily fixed, unlike the expensive super solid parts that need milled not filed.
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That was a racist ass comment about Chinese sticking with making noodles.