Torsten, I currently have the TS Photon 10" f/4 with a modified Canon 60D DSLR on a Celestron CGX mount. I love this combination for its ease of use and quality images. I am retired from Steward Observatory where I was Supervisor of the Large Optics Polishing Lab. I have used APO Triplet 130mm, 8" RC, and 100mm APO Doublet. I started with a 10" f/3.9 and decided to go back to the 10" f/4. Your presentation of the Hypergraph has me interested in the 200mm. It looks to operate like an RC but the focal length is much shorter. Your presentation is excellent and I think I will buy the 200mm but still keep my 10" f/4. I live in Arizona, USA but have bought almost everything from Teleskop. Your service is excellent and products are beautiful. Thank you for the videos. Especially your example images at the end.
Nice telescope! And the stars in your images are beautiful sharp. I think the Ocal collimator or the one from TS, TSRCColli are great collimators for this Hypergraph. Thank you for this video, Thorsten.
Thank you so much for this video, Thorsten. My new Hypergraph8 just arrived from TS-Optics, and this was very helpful. Despite living in NZ, TS is my first choice for astronomy supplies thanks to your knowledge and support. The Hypergraph is certainly not an entry level telescope, as it is very challenging to collimate. I have now been going for three day (and nights) and I still haven't managed to achieve perfect collimation across the full frame of my ASI6200MM sensor. [Although the depth achieved with such a fast system is impressive from the images I have taken]. Using the TS Concenter, I can line up the 2ary under the focuser, but I suspect my current laser isn't up to the task of aligning the 2ary with the 1ary. The suggestions from Beatrice below for a collimator suited to this telescope are also helpful. Finally, my Hypergraph arrived with one locking screw on the 1ary mirror loose in the box - and I can't get it back in. I hope this doesn't limit my ability to collimate.
Thanks for your comment Brian, Ok, thats a wonderful setup! I hope you can get it working! Ok, thats not good, maybe it came loose on its long way to you. You should be able to just turn the screw back into the threading. Otherwise, it should be ok the remove the primary cell from the tube, then you can see whats going on int back.
Hello, Thank you for this valuable video. I recently bought a 150mm28f. I use ASI6200MC pro as a camera. I can provide 55mm back focus with M48 adapter + M54 drawer 2" filter (20mm) adapter + 17.5mm camera sensor distance. But there is a lot of vignetting in the corners. For this, will using M54 adapter instead of M48 solve the problem? Or which adapters should I use? In addition, when I use 2" optolog L-exterme filter, is there a possibility that the back focus will be 56mm instead of 55mm?
Hello, I have a question: if we want to install a Sesto Senso 2 on this telescope, I think we will have to invert the eyepiece holder (like on my 130/650) so that the gear wheel is on the other side. Why isn't the eyepiece holder mounted with the gear wheel on the aperture side?
Hi, not sure if i understand i correctly, but the more easy approach would be, to just rotate the focuser 180 degree, so the gear wheel will be on the aperture side.
@@teleskopservice Your understanding is correct, and this is what I did on my Newton, which is also what a number of users do when they have to reverse the eyepiece holder by 180°. The question is: why is this not done at the factory? (the gearing is always on the primary mirror side)?
I'm wondering about the issues that I have read about online about the Primary Mirror Cell design. I have read that the mirror can move freely in the cell and is very difficult to keep collimated (if not impossible). Is this still true for the TS variant? I'm very interested in this scope, or even the 130, but the idea of poor design puts me off.
Hi Joshua, i understand what you mean. I heard from scopes in the past, where the mirror was freely moving. Indeed, the primary mirror has to be "free", but only fractions of a millimetre. We check all scopes before they left the factory. The cell design is proper for that scope, i had it here for testing and it kept the collimation well. But, it is really fast, i always double checked it to be sure.
It absolutely drives me crazy that correctors are routinely given a 55 mm back focus. Great for a mirror less camera. Not so much with an OAG, filter wheel, and a lot of cameras.
EAF fits for sure for the SestoSenso an adaptor is required if you need support on that please write to our expert consultants at info@teleskop-service.de
Hello! Great video! I have one question: what is the backfocus distance from the m63 thread to the sensor/what is the thickness of the M48-M63 adapter? Thank you!
Hi Michal, thats the same scope, so no difference. If you are in europe, the advantage is, that you have a direct contact person in case of any issues.
@@jesuschrist2284 2.299 EUR is the standard price. At the moment we have running a "trade fair" promotion with 10% discount. So 2.299 minus 10% right now.
I really liked the look of this scope which would have solved a few of my problems, one being the size and construction of my current scope. (Skywatcher) BUT. I've read some of the comments on the forums and it appears that many of these scopes arrive with bits falling off them! Now I'm sorry, but if I'm paying £2000 for a high-end scope I don't want to be repairing it on arrival. Course I found out where they are made and it turns out that it's made in China (P.R.C.) what a surprise. 👎
We never had this case before! I can't answer that because we are not the only sellers of this type of telescope. I can't say how the other sellers deal with the telescopes. We don't have anything like that. Please show us links to the forums where this is claimed.
Habe gar nicht mitbekommen das Sie ein Video vom Hypergraphen gemacht haben.....
Danke für das Video!!
Torsten, I currently have the TS Photon 10" f/4 with a modified Canon 60D DSLR on a Celestron CGX mount. I love this combination for its ease of use and quality images. I am retired from Steward Observatory where I was Supervisor of the Large Optics Polishing Lab. I have used APO Triplet 130mm, 8" RC, and 100mm APO Doublet. I started with a 10" f/3.9 and decided to go back to the 10" f/4. Your presentation of the Hypergraph has me interested in the 200mm. It looks to operate like an RC but the focal length is much shorter. Your presentation is excellent and I think I will buy the 200mm but still keep my 10" f/4. I live in Arizona, USA but have bought almost everything from Teleskop. Your service is excellent and products are beautiful. Thank you for the videos. Especially your example images at the end.
Great looking Astrograph....but how does it match to the similar speced Boren Simon 6 inch astrograph in terms of image quality...
Hi Raizal, the Boren Simon are also a good choice, but the usable field is limited to approx. APS-C sensor size.
Nice telescope! And the stars in your images are beautiful sharp. I think the Ocal collimator or the one from TS, TSRCColli are great collimators for this Hypergraph. Thank you for this video, Thorsten.
Thanks Beatrice! the OCAL should work with it, but i haven't checked it.
amazing review my friend, lovely little scope and looking forward to seeing more images in our live stream. Great review, simple and to the point! :)
Thank you very much Ioan, really appreciate it :)
Thank you so much for this video, Thorsten. My new Hypergraph8 just arrived from TS-Optics, and this was very helpful. Despite living in NZ, TS is my first choice for astronomy supplies thanks to your knowledge and support.
The Hypergraph is certainly not an entry level telescope, as it is very challenging to collimate. I have now been going for three day (and nights) and I still haven't managed to achieve perfect collimation across the full frame of my ASI6200MM sensor. [Although the depth achieved with such a fast system is impressive from the images I have taken].
Using the TS Concenter, I can line up the 2ary under the focuser, but I suspect my current laser isn't up to the task of aligning the 2ary with the 1ary. The suggestions from Beatrice below for a collimator suited to this telescope are also helpful.
Finally, my Hypergraph arrived with one locking screw on the 1ary mirror loose in the box - and I can't get it back in. I hope this doesn't limit my ability to collimate.
Thanks for your comment Brian, Ok, thats a wonderful setup! I hope you can get it working!
Ok, thats not good, maybe it came loose on its long way to you. You should be able to just turn the screw back into the threading. Otherwise, it should be ok the remove the primary cell from the tube, then you can see whats going on int back.
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Great review. Does the ZWO EAF work on the Hypergraphs focuser ?
Thanks for a great review. Not many reviews on this telescope. I Have one on the way can't wait for first light.
Great review! I’m thinking about buying it, can you recommend a good collimator?
Hello,
Thank you for this valuable video.
I recently bought a 150mm28f. I use ASI6200MC pro as a camera. I can provide 55mm back focus with M48 adapter + M54 drawer 2" filter (20mm) adapter + 17.5mm camera sensor distance. But there is a lot of vignetting in the corners.
For this, will using M54 adapter instead of M48 solve the problem? Or which adapters should I use?
In addition, when I use 2" optolog L-exterme filter, is there a possibility that the back focus will be 56mm instead of 55mm?
Hello, I have a question: if we want to install a Sesto Senso 2 on this telescope, I think we will have to invert the eyepiece holder (like on my 130/650) so that the gear wheel is on the other side.
Why isn't the eyepiece holder mounted with the gear wheel on the aperture side?
Hi, not sure if i understand i correctly, but the more easy approach would be, to just rotate the focuser 180 degree, so the gear wheel will be on the aperture side.
@@teleskopservice Your understanding is correct, and this is what I did on my Newton, which is also what a number of users do when they have to reverse the eyepiece holder by 180°.
The question is: why is this not done at the factory? (the gearing is always on the primary mirror side)?
very good telescope, is it possible to do a Dual setup, Thanks
sure, that would be an epic setup! With a long dovetail like our "Doppel3ST" you are ready to go.
I'm wondering about the issues that I have read about online about the Primary Mirror Cell design. I have read that the mirror can move freely in the cell and is very difficult to keep collimated (if not impossible). Is this still true for the TS variant? I'm very interested in this scope, or even the 130, but the idea of poor design puts me off.
Hi Joshua, i understand what you mean. I heard from scopes in the past, where the mirror was freely moving. Indeed, the primary mirror has to be "free", but only fractions of a millimetre. We check all scopes before they left the factory.
The cell design is proper for that scope, i had it here for testing and it kept the collimation well. But, it is really fast, i always double checked it to be sure.
It absolutely drives me crazy that correctors are routinely given a 55 mm back focus. Great for a mirror less camera. Not so much with an OAG, filter wheel, and a lot of cameras.
any idea how does it cope with "extreme" temperatures if kept in a permanent merlino observatory? say... -15C to 45C
What automatic focuser can be used with this telescope? Would SestoSenso Primalucelab fit? Thank you.
EAF fits for sure
for the SestoSenso an adaptor is required
if you need support on that please write to our expert consultants at
info@teleskop-service.de
Hello! Great video! I have one question: what is the backfocus distance from the m63 thread to the sensor/what is the thickness of the M48-M63 adapter?
Thank you!
It's the SAME as the Sharpstar 130/150 f/2.8?
Please, is there a dot in the secondary mirror for collimation purposes? Thanks.
Hi Javier, no there is no dot on the secondary.
Hi! Can you explain the advantages of a hyperbolic primary?
coupled with its matching coma correctors, a hyperbolic primary offers better correction for spherical aberrations, I believe.
How is it holding up? About to get one. Enjoyed the video btw
Is there any difference between this one and the one made by Sharpstar?
Hi Michal, thats the same scope, so no difference.
If you are in europe, the advantage is, that you have a direct contact person in case of any issues.
@@teleskopservice
Thank you, I just got the answer for my question ("Is this the same as the Sharpstar 130/150 f/2.8?") 👍
How much does it cost, how heavy is it?
For Jesus we can do a special deal :-)
@@teleskopservice lol ty my son ;)
@@jesuschrist2284 2.299 EUR is the standard price.
At the moment we have running a "trade fair" promotion with 10% discount.
So 2.299 minus 10% right now.
I am not even daring to ask how much it is.
www.teleskop-express.de/de/teleskope-4/newton-teleskope-315/newtons-mit-korrektor-314/sharpstar-150-mm-f-2-8-hyperbolischer-astrograph-mit-korrektor-und-carbontubus-11082
I really liked the look of this scope which would have solved a few of my problems, one being the size and construction of my current scope. (Skywatcher) BUT. I've read some of the comments on the forums and it appears that many of these scopes arrive with bits falling off them! Now I'm sorry, but if I'm paying £2000 for a high-end scope I don't want to be repairing it on arrival. Course I found out where they are made and it turns out that it's made in China (P.R.C.) what a surprise. 👎
We never had this case before!
I can't answer that because we are not the only sellers of this type of telescope. I can't say how the other sellers deal with the telescopes.
We don't have anything like that.
Please show us links to the forums where this is claimed.
That is an EXACT clone of the Sharpstar 13028HNT