28:51 That libertarian seat belt/motorcycle helmet law resistance drives me nuts. If you are thrown from a car or get a traumatic head injury due to a helmet-less crash, ALL of the rest of us ultimately wind up paying for you in higher insurance premiums, higher taxes to cover your disability payouts, and unrecouped medical charges being passed on to everyone else who uses that facility after you. We ALL pay for other peoples’ stupidity in many many ways.
This was my argument when it was mandated in my State .. and I was 14 years old. I thought that there should be an option for those who didn't wish to wear them to sign a waiver. No you won't be taken to the hospital, no you can't claim injuries on your insurance, no we won't help with disability and so on. It did shut many down when spoken in such terms - it's all Freedom until somebody gets hurt. 😢
@@katiehettinger7857I keep hoping. But until DHS classifies FAUX NEWS as a terrorist organization, doubtful. (I’m a poll worker. Trust me. Their voters are terrified of an insane number of non-factional things. )
I have to say that I was a little surprised with the degree of agitation during the discussion about isolation. Not saying we got things right. BUT there is an appeal of sending my husband away if he were sick. Why: My mom lives with us, has health issues, and I spend a whole lot of time worrying about and caring for her. If I did not have to deal with a sick spouse, that would make my life just a little easier. Alternatively, having someone come in to attend to him would be a big help. I think we need to be thoughtful about what happened and in planning for the future and understand that not all actions/requirements/etc. will have the same effects. We live in varying situations and accommodating that is important.
Did every kid of our generation have the same station wagon experience, with a Dad issuing dire threats? No seat belts. And I remember traveling at 80 mph. That was before the gas shortage of 1979. Thank you for your updates.
@@danielasuncion9991circa 1985 driving some Cub Scouts to a camping weekend. One boy a little bit down the road refused to put his seal belt on. I pulled over to take him home. He fastened his belt. By that point in 🇨🇦 I think it was mandatory at least for children and it was required by the National Scout body. The boy told me that his Dad didn’t require him to wear his seat belt. I pointed out that I wasn’t his Dad.
Re: the voluntary isolation centres in Toronto. I agree it wouldn’t be sustainable over the long term but I think it’s important to remember that this was pre-vaccine and maybe even before the availability of proper masks. If I’d been living in a household where it was difficult to isolate, like say a large multigenerational family, and especially if some in my household were more vulnerable, I would have been thrilled to have the option of isolating away from my family. Imagine being the one to infect a family member who passed away from the infection. Also important to know is that there is a housing crisis and some people were living in overcrowded situations in which it was not possible to isolate from housemates, who aren’t necessarily one’s family.
I have averaged a Covid shot about every six months since the spring of 2021. No bad reactions and just one very mild case back in 2022. I am close to 70 so will continue to get my shots for the time being
I'm very happy that this method has worked out for you so well. There are some of us who can't take that path and have had horrible adverse events with the vaccines. The CDC called me and told me not to get anymore Covid vaccines so I still wear an N95 mask so as not to get infected - it's worked, still a Novid, but can't live a "normal" life with restaurants/movies, etc. 😢
I'm in my 70s with Long Covid, I have done the same thing regarding shots every 6 months. How often people need to be vaccinated may not be one size fits all, but better safe than sorry is something to keep in mind when it comes to your health.
The family is the nucleus but not everyone had a family to support them. There were also programs to bring people meals at home and lots of information about how to isolate from your family in the same house. It was a collection of services to support different situations and not an either/or thing. It was not fun for anyone as we all know.
When someone in our family gets sick, they isolate in the guest room so as not to get others who may be more vulnerable or not have time to take off work sick. I’m not understanding how hard this is for people???
If people can afford it, food and medicine can be delivered. In the early days of the pandemic, I live alone and had a vicious, life-threatening Long Covid reaction. Since this was not understood at that time, I wouldn't let anyone near me for fear of making others sick. I toughed it out at home alone because Kaiser Permanente didn't recognize the condition as Covid-19 related. In my opinion, isolation saves lives in the long run, when we have neither vaccines or treatments for a highly contagious disease.
15:19 "So this is not sustainable on a large scale, okay. And the US would never do it, right. In the US the family is the nucleus, right. So you take a member out of the family and put them away for, whatever, 10 days; it's not going to work." 16:45 "I mean, they can't work. So I think there are all kinds of problems. We should have learned that the lockdowns and isolations were really disruptive measures." I was going to start by observing that as a NZer I wouldn't comment on what was possible in the US, but then I realised that, like everyone else on the planet, I was painfully aware of what was possible in the US. Isolation and quarantine, along with other NPIs deployed during the phase of the pandemic when there was no vaccine, met with immediate opposition: they were inconvenient, they were costly, they were infeasible and disruptive, they restricted personal freedoms. Ffs, it was not the NPIs that were inconvenient, costly and all the rest; it was the pandemic. And when vaccines did come along opponents moved seamlessly to become antivaxxers and oppose this public health measure as well. 15:45 "Yeah, I don't even know why we bothered to look at this kind of thing I mean maybe there are some countries where they enforce it and they they think it's useful..." It is reasonable and necessary to seriously assess the efficacy of any particular intervention. (Although turning a 50% 2AR difference into a 3% one is, bluntly, not so serious.) But every decision involves cost. Shunning isolation (and all it involves like sick pay, testing, tracing and monitoring access to retail outlets etc) is no exception. And what other countries _think_ is beside the point. What matters is what they did, and what the effect was. The US covid death numbers were appalling when compared with countries that did take these NPIs seriously. Those who would protect the US from isolation and quarantines now have renewed vigor, and the outlook, whether from flu or some other epidemic, is just as bleak as it was when the centuries old response to a novel virus was rejected in favour of horsepaste, bleach and rectal flashlights.
Watched this morning at 5:30, so I got all fired up and called Sam’s club pharmacy about the RSV vaccine. Insurance won’t pay until I’m 75 without comorbities. Oh well. So much for being healthy. I’m getting the pneumonia vaccine on Monday instead. I’ve got vaccines running out of my nose. Trying to outrun rfk.
The pneumonia vaccine hit me hard after 7 hours with strong fatigue. I suddenly had to sleep so off to bed I went at 7 pm. The only side effect fortunately.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time I've had 4, and I'm still here. I also use an N95 on the bus, and public buildings. As far as I know, I have not had COVID-19.
I self isolated during the height of Covid. Down here in Texas , the DJT rednecks shunned the shot in favor of politics. I watched many people I knew drop like flies. Even now when someone is seriously coughing at Walmart, I move away. Seriously, we are adults and should be as responsible as we can.
Vincent, here in Taiwan we had mandatory quarantine for anyone who might have been exposed. Taiwan had an 8-month streak of not a single locally transmitted case starting in April 2020! It worked here. When I arrived in Jan 2021 I could not have caught covid if I tried. We had preemptive contact tracing and entry quarantine. A large office building had a case near me, and everyone on the entire floor was quarantined. Everyone else in the building was tested. The cases were so low that this made complete sense, and it was a hell of a lot more convenient than lockdowns in the USA. Taiwan NEVER HAD A LOCKDOWN.
We had a station wagon when I was growing up, complete with rear-facing back seat. I was riding in that rear seat with a little girl we were babysitting. My mom had to stop short when someone pulled out in front of her. The little girl was thrown off the seat and got a fairly large gash in her scalp. Fortunately that was all but it could have been worse. My kids were born in the mid-80s and I was the only person I personally knew who never allowed my kids to ride in a car without being buckled into a carseat. I even wrote an impassioned letter to the editor of our local paper about carseat safety. I've never understood the resistance to safety measures.
You know, Vincent, when it comes to isolation and risks of illness, frequently you're talking here like a well-off guy who has many people around to take care of him, and who is not a sole caregiver to other people at home. Yes, it's very disruptive and upsetting to send a sick person away for two weeks. But I'd like for you to explain that to a single-mom friend of mine who's now in her fourth year of long covid. She caught covid from her younger daughter when the kids had to go back to school. They were already on the edge, and now she's disabled and in what looks like permanent poverty, and the girl's life is effectively over before it started, because she's her mom's only available caregiver. To be frank, I think that two weeks of unhappiness on a covid ward at age 17 is vastly preferable to a stunted life in poverty caregiving to a sick mom with no prospect of ever getting better. I'm also a single mom, and my teen daughter had the choice of going back in person or remaining remote into a second year. She stayed remote. It was absolutely hard on her, especially at graduation. However, if she'd brought me home covid, and I'd wound up disabled, we'd have been in the same boat as my friend and her daughter. Instead my kid had a difficult year and then went off to college, and has flourished ever since. You have to think more carefully about other people's situations, not just your own.
I'll actually amplify that with this: in the bigger/more serious covid/ID pods, I notice the presenters are very dominantly older men. While I get that demographically you guys have never been the ones with longterm primary caregiving responsibility, it's pretty mindblowing how seldom caregiver vulnerability shows up as a concern in your discussions. You seem to imagine that either we don't exist or we're just sort of adjunct nurses that are supported by mystery, but real, other people out there somewhere, and don't need consideration, even though there are tens of millions of us in the US. Caregivers live extremely fragile, precarious lives. Most of us also have to earn money to support ourselves and whomever we're taking care of, and American jobs are not set up to accommodate caregiving -- just the opposite, it's a thing you're punished for at work. We don't have the time off we need for caregiving, we don't have rest and time for self-care, we're easily fired, we often have to accept low-wage work and have no savings to speak of, and we are the bottom line. Without us, all these children, elderly, disabled, and chronically ill people have no one and nothing. And we are our own safety nets. So when you're advising that a public-health measure makes no sense for a public or population -- stop and ask yourself who you imagine that public or population to be. If we get sick, if we're disabled, we're SOL and so are the people we care for. There is no one else showing up with money or help for us. So I'll bring you right back to that line: nobody's safe until everybody's safe. If you are backstopping the caregivers in your public health proposals, if you already know how we'll get meaningful, adequate money and care help if we ourselves are bad sick or disabled, now you know we're okay to let go of a public health measure to stop the spread of disease. Otherwise, no.
I’ve watched your updates during the pandemic - never missed them. I’m now watching this and have to say I am shocked how much Dr. Griffin has aged and so much weight lost! I hope all is well with you.
Vincent the virologist seems to have become a sociologist. The Toronto study was about VOLUNTARY self isolation. You got freaky over mandatory measures and separating the family nucleus. guff!
Dr R before you spout off about no need for quarantine centers , you might make a visit to any agricultural centers/- migrant worker housing.Those folks would love to not to live cheek to jowl even for a short bit....maybe visit one of the many hundereds of migrant camps dotted around the Mediterranean and Adriatic Seas. or remember the steerage ' from which you came.
Me too. H5N1 has been around for 20 years or so and hasn't killed anyone in the western hemisphere that I'm aware of. More people have been quite literally been injured and killed from McDonalds cheeseburgers than avian influenza.
Dr. Griffin, so much to think about. What is “neuropasqu -…”? I’m not sure I know that is Thanks for ALL you, Dr. Racaniello and all the Microbe TV contributors continue to provide. 😊
Doc. I know you can’t give personal medical advice online but… the question about healthy kids. You never answered about the risk for kids with no comorbidities and 3 vaccines What is their risk? Pretty close to zero?
The teenager had conjunctivities so obviously it's a animal to human infection. 16:31 I think it's pretty reasonable for the sick person to stay in their room and the others to keep their distance most of the time. That's how you avoid catching things as a family. 31:41 I'm automatically throwing retrospective studies in the trash if they do not specify how they matched the control cohort, like this one. It's pretty much the only relevant information. Letters, broncho-vaxom: given that GI tolerance does not extend to IgA antibody production, and because of cross mucosal immunity, looks like it could work
It appears that I will now get Novavax C19 vax since after 5 spike vaccines I developed several open sores on ankles/lower legs; which took several months to clear up; a problem which has been reported as about 2.5 pct risk of vessel lining leakage in several journals. In my case it was leakage with open sores.
@@PolkadotpupMaybe turbo cancer with the related loss of appetite? Or maybe he went on a Keto diet or maybe he is doing (semaglutide injections) Ozempic. I am here to help and help I do.
I was initially disappointed that Lex Friedman interviewed RFK. However before he started, he mentioned Vincent’s name and Paul Offit plus some other credible scientists as a source for accurate fact checking. So, I have to give Lex a bit of a pass. I still wish no one would give noted conspiracy air time to spread misinformation.
Excellent update but you say that the vaccine reduces the risk of infection. Here in the UK everyone is told that the boosters don't stop you from getting infected they just prevent severe disease. I wish you would make some suggestions for those of us on immune suppression meds who have no covid antibodies despite all those vaxxes! What about mucosal protection? Other than masking and isolating what can we do?
There are things you could do but this is not the forum to do it in. And mean not just this YT cast but the whole of TH-cam. I'll give you a hint, enhance your levels of AMP-1 & beta-2 defensin.
Does anyone know if the Canadian teenager was an Avid outdoors person? Contact with geese or their excrement? It would be nice to see an interview with Scott Hensley again.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time Right. SHE'S a gibberish fountain, yet she knows when to use 'than' rather than 'that' in a sentence. Your trolling is at best tiresome.
Keep up the great work guys. I'm old enough to remember a "Quincy" episode where a guy got drunk after killing someone with a car to get away with "accidentally" driving drunk!
This is so dumb . 1 : one not one mile ever 13 miles . 2: it’s not even the 10 the most crowded place in Wuhan , why did it not leak to a more crowded place ?3: there were two lineages . Do you think within a week of each other they leaked twice and went straight to wet Market? Are you In your senses ? 4; why did it not effect relatives of lab workers ? I am just beginning . Let’s see for once a lab leaked is not total dunce . Never met one yet who was not.
If I were you, I'd go read up on what actually took place on the very first "Thanksgiving". The first time it was called as such was in 1637 when Massachusetts Colony Governor John Winthrop declared a day of thanksgiving after pilgrams murdered 700 Pequot people. So no laws broken.. just the murder of 700 Native Americans then onto a feast. 😢
Maybe using warmed oxigen mix at body temperature can decrease severity of Covid19, especially at patients with,, cold agglutinine,,or with higher cryoglobuline IgM level ?
@@Turtledove2009 "Again, we must ask ourselves: Is this slowly, inexorably occurring in each of us, with each exposure to SARS-CoV-2 and its Spike Protein? Is our own BRS being gradually impaired? We must continue to search for and find answers. God bless the Pilots, and the rest of us. " - Walter M. Chestnut Quote is from his Nov. 18, 2024 research article "The Spike Protein, Baroreceptors and Sudden Death: Think Pilots The Spike Protein’s presence in Baroreceptor locations may fatally disrupt communication between the brain and the heart."
The world is unraveling, thanks for being here
My compulsory listening on a Saturday lunchtime. Never disappoints! Blessings!!
My time is around 5.30 am on Saturdays.
28:51 That libertarian seat belt/motorcycle helmet law resistance drives me nuts.
If you are thrown from a car or get a traumatic head injury due to a helmet-less crash, ALL of the rest of us ultimately wind up paying for you in higher insurance premiums, higher taxes to cover your disability payouts, and unrecouped medical charges being passed on to everyone else who uses that facility after you.
We ALL pay for other peoples’ stupidity in many many ways.
Well put
This was my argument when it was mandated in my State .. and I was 14 years old.
I thought that there should be an option for those who didn't wish to wear them to sign a waiver. No you won't be taken to the hospital, no you can't claim injuries on your insurance, no we won't help with disability and so on.
It did shut many down when spoken in such terms - it's all Freedom until somebody gets hurt. 😢
Are we at the point were Darwinism prunes back the stupid people?
@@katiehettinger7857Let's hope so.
@@katiehettinger7857I keep hoping. But until DHS classifies FAUX NEWS as a terrorist organization, doubtful. (I’m a poll worker. Trust me. Their voters are terrified of an insane number of non-factional things. )
I have to say that I was a little surprised with the degree of agitation during the discussion about isolation. Not saying we got things right. BUT there is an appeal of sending my husband away if he were sick. Why: My mom lives with us, has health issues, and I spend a whole lot of time worrying about and caring for her. If I did not have to deal with a sick spouse, that would make my life just a little easier. Alternatively, having someone come in to attend to him would be a big help. I think we need to be thoughtful about what happened and in planning for the future and understand that not all actions/requirements/etc. will have the same effects. We live in varying situations and accommodating that is important.
Agree with you on all points.
I also agree with you.
Did every kid of our generation have the same station wagon experience, with a Dad issuing dire threats? No seat belts. And I remember traveling at 80 mph. That was before the gas shortage of 1979.
Thank you for your updates.
Did a Dad ever turn the car around, drive home, and cancel the vacation plans?
@@danielasuncion9991circa 1985 driving some Cub Scouts to a camping weekend. One boy a little bit down the road refused to put his seal belt on. I pulled over to take him home. He fastened his belt. By that point in 🇨🇦 I think it was mandatory at least for children and it was required by the National Scout body. The boy told me that his Dad didn’t require him to wear his seat belt. I pointed out that I wasn’t his Dad.
Survivorship bias is a wonderful thing!
Re: the voluntary isolation centres in Toronto. I agree it wouldn’t be sustainable over the long term but I think it’s important to remember that this was pre-vaccine and maybe even before the availability of proper masks. If I’d been living in a household where it was difficult to isolate, like say a large multigenerational family, and especially if some in my household were more vulnerable, I would have been thrilled to have the option of isolating away from my family. Imagine being the one to infect a family member who passed away from the infection. Also important to know is that there is a housing crisis and some people were living in overcrowded situations in which it was not possible to isolate from housemates, who aren’t necessarily one’s family.
I agree. 😉👍
Very true!
I have averaged a Covid shot about every six months since the spring of 2021. No bad reactions and just one very mild case back in 2022.
I am close to 70 so will continue to get my shots for the time being
And get all the new platform 'vaccines' when they come out. If enough of you do it, social security may become sustainable.
I'm very happy that this method has worked out for you so well.
There are some of us who can't take that path and have had horrible adverse events with the vaccines.
The CDC called me and told me not to get anymore Covid vaccines so I still wear an N95 mask so as not to get infected - it's worked, still a Novid, but can't live a "normal" life with restaurants/movies, etc. 😢
I'm in my 70s with Long Covid, I have done the same thing regarding shots every 6 months. How often people need to be vaccinated may not be one size fits all, but better safe than sorry is something to keep in mind when it comes to your health.
Thank-you for saying this and giving recognition to the fact that it is not good for everyone.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time "Facebook" science right? Source is "trust me bro" as usual? You're a joke
Yes, I remember the seat belt debate also. It’s crazy to think about now!
The family is the nucleus but not everyone had a family to support them. There were also programs to bring people meals at home and lots of information about how to isolate from your family in the same house. It was a collection of services to support different situations and not an either/or thing. It was not fun for anyone as we all know.
Great news about physicsgirl 🎉
When someone in our family gets sick, they isolate in the guest room so as not to get others who may be more vulnerable or not have time to take off work sick. I’m not understanding how hard this is for people???
It was tough for single people to isolate or take care of themselves while sick. Expecting everyone to rely on family ignores those people.
It’s my responsibility to get my vaccine.
If people can afford it, food and medicine can be delivered. In the early days of the pandemic, I live alone and had a vicious, life-threatening Long Covid reaction. Since this was not understood at that time, I wouldn't let anyone near me for fear of making others sick. I toughed it out at home alone because Kaiser Permanente didn't recognize the condition as Covid-19 related. In my opinion, isolation saves lives in the long run, when we have neither vaccines or treatments for a highly contagious disease.
@@katiehettinger7857It sounds like you had an awful experience and I'm really glad you made it through!
@@Polkadotpup Of course. But this was before vaccines.
15:19 "So this is not sustainable on a large scale, okay. And the US would never do it, right. In the US the family is the nucleus, right. So you take a member out of the family and put
them away for, whatever, 10 days; it's not going to work."
16:45 "I mean, they can't work. So I think there are all kinds of problems. We should have learned that the lockdowns and isolations were really disruptive measures."
I was going to start by observing that as a NZer I wouldn't comment on what was possible in the US, but then I realised that, like everyone else on the planet, I was painfully aware of what was possible in the US.
Isolation and quarantine, along with other NPIs deployed during the phase of the pandemic when there was no vaccine, met with immediate opposition: they were inconvenient, they were costly, they were infeasible and disruptive, they restricted personal freedoms. Ffs, it was not the NPIs that were inconvenient, costly and all the rest; it was the pandemic. And when vaccines did come along opponents moved seamlessly to become antivaxxers and oppose this public health measure as well.
15:45 "Yeah, I don't even know why we bothered to look at this kind of thing I mean maybe there are some countries where they enforce it and they they think it's useful..."
It is reasonable and necessary to seriously assess the efficacy of any particular intervention. (Although turning a 50% 2AR difference into a 3% one is, bluntly, not so serious.) But every decision involves cost. Shunning isolation (and all it involves like sick pay, testing, tracing and monitoring access to retail outlets etc) is no exception. And what other countries _think_ is beside the point. What matters is what they did, and what the effect was. The US covid death numbers were appalling when compared with countries that did take these NPIs seriously. Those who would protect the US from isolation and quarantines now have renewed vigor, and the outlook, whether from flu or some other epidemic, is just as bleak as it was when the centuries old response to a novel virus was rejected in favour of horsepaste, bleach and rectal flashlights.
Such a well written response!
Watched this morning at 5:30, so I got all fired up and called Sam’s club pharmacy about the RSV vaccine. Insurance won’t pay until I’m 75 without comorbities. Oh well. So much for being healthy. I’m getting the pneumonia vaccine on Monday instead. I’ve got vaccines running out of my nose. Trying to outrun rfk.
The pneumonia vaccine hit me hard after 7 hours with strong fatigue. I suddenly had to sleep so off to bed I went at 7 pm. The only side effect fortunately.
The pneumonia 20 vaccine did not bother me at all. Guess I was lucky.
Thanks!
That data at 24:18 for nursing homes and vaccinations is just sad. We NEED to do better in this country.
Thank you Dr. Zahara. You’ve said it all as clearly as humanly possible.
Thanks, guys! Still listening after all these years. You keep me safe(r) in a world gone mad. RFK, butt out!
Thanks to you educating us, we spent real money on Shingrix and RSV vaccins. All other vaccines were given to by our government. Big fans.
Another good update. Thanks!
I look forward to the new mRNA vaccine, the way many people look forward to the new iPhone.
p.s.
My next shot in a few days.
Do your part in balancing the social security ledger, get all the new mRNA 'vaccines' as they come out.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time
Do you trust the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE?
I do.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time
I've had 4, and I'm still here. I also use an N95 on the bus, and public buildings.
As far as I know, I have not had COVID-19.
😊👍❤️
I self isolated during the height of Covid. Down here in Texas , the DJT rednecks shunned the shot in favor of politics. I watched many people I knew drop like flies. Even now when someone is seriously coughing at Walmart, I move away. Seriously, we are adults and should be as responsible as we can.
I thought the bow tie was bubonic plague, celebrating RFK Jnr's expected contributions to health in the US.
I love a little salt. 😉👍❤️
Vincent, here in Taiwan we had mandatory quarantine for anyone who might have been exposed. Taiwan had an 8-month streak of not a single locally transmitted case starting in April 2020! It worked here. When I arrived in Jan 2021 I could not have caught covid if I tried. We had preemptive contact tracing and entry quarantine. A large office building had a case near me, and everyone on the entire floor was quarantined. Everyone else in the building was tested. The cases were so low that this made complete sense, and it was a hell of a lot more convenient than lockdowns in the USA. Taiwan NEVER HAD A LOCKDOWN.
We had a station wagon when I was growing up, complete with rear-facing back seat. I was riding in that rear seat with a little girl we were babysitting. My mom had to stop short when someone pulled out in front of her. The little girl was thrown off the seat and got a fairly large gash in her scalp. Fortunately that was all but it could have been worse.
My kids were born in the mid-80s and I was the only person I personally knew who never allowed my kids to ride in a car without being buckled into a carseat. I even wrote an impassioned letter to the editor of our local paper about carseat safety. I've never understood the resistance to safety measures.
That's great 👍. Thanks for that
You know, Vincent, when it comes to isolation and risks of illness, frequently you're talking here like a well-off guy who has many people around to take care of him, and who is not a sole caregiver to other people at home. Yes, it's very disruptive and upsetting to send a sick person away for two weeks. But I'd like for you to explain that to a single-mom friend of mine who's now in her fourth year of long covid. She caught covid from her younger daughter when the kids had to go back to school. They were already on the edge, and now she's disabled and in what looks like permanent poverty, and the girl's life is effectively over before it started, because she's her mom's only available caregiver. To be frank, I think that two weeks of unhappiness on a covid ward at age 17 is vastly preferable to a stunted life in poverty caregiving to a sick mom with no prospect of ever getting better.
I'm also a single mom, and my teen daughter had the choice of going back in person or remaining remote into a second year. She stayed remote. It was absolutely hard on her, especially at graduation. However, if she'd brought me home covid, and I'd wound up disabled, we'd have been in the same boat as my friend and her daughter. Instead my kid had a difficult year and then went off to college, and has flourished ever since.
You have to think more carefully about other people's situations, not just your own.
I'll actually amplify that with this: in the bigger/more serious covid/ID pods, I notice the presenters are very dominantly older men. While I get that demographically you guys have never been the ones with longterm primary caregiving responsibility, it's pretty mindblowing how seldom caregiver vulnerability shows up as a concern in your discussions. You seem to imagine that either we don't exist or we're just sort of adjunct nurses that are supported by mystery, but real, other people out there somewhere, and don't need consideration, even though there are tens of millions of us in the US.
Caregivers live extremely fragile, precarious lives. Most of us also have to earn money to support ourselves and whomever we're taking care of, and American jobs are not set up to accommodate caregiving -- just the opposite, it's a thing you're punished for at work. We don't have the time off we need for caregiving, we don't have rest and time for self-care, we're easily fired, we often have to accept low-wage work and have no savings to speak of, and we are the bottom line. Without us, all these children, elderly, disabled, and chronically ill people have no one and nothing. And we are our own safety nets.
So when you're advising that a public-health measure makes no sense for a public or population -- stop and ask yourself who you imagine that public or population to be. If we get sick, if we're disabled, we're SOL and so are the people we care for. There is no one else showing up with money or help for us. So I'll bring you right back to that line: nobody's safe until everybody's safe. If you are backstopping the caregivers in your public health proposals, if you already know how we'll get meaningful, adequate money and care help if we ourselves are bad sick or disabled, now you know we're okay to let go of a public health measure to stop the spread of disease. Otherwise, no.
I think you should isolate if you are sick. Everyone should have sick days so that they don’t have to spread their sickness to others.
I’ve watched your updates during the pandemic - never missed them. I’m now watching this and have to say I am shocked how much Dr. Griffin has aged and so much weight lost! I hope all is well with you.
It makes sense the isolation places would be of limited benefit because people were separated after they already could have transmitted.
Saw a picture of a driver who did not wear his seatbelt. It can be found on a medical gore site. Look at it at your own peril.
Vincent the virologist seems to have become a sociologist. The Toronto study was about VOLUNTARY self isolation. You got freaky over mandatory measures and separating the family nucleus. guff!
Dr R before you spout off about no need for quarantine centers , you might make a visit to any agricultural centers/- migrant worker housing.Those folks would love to not to live cheek to jowl even for a short bit....maybe visit one of the many hundereds of migrant camps dotted around the Mediterranean and Adriatic Seas. or remember the steerage ' from which you came.
16:14 New Zealand did this kind of thing quarantining travelers.
Thanks for the discussion on H5N1. It reduced my stress.
Me too. H5N1 has been around for 20 years or so and hasn't killed anyone in the western hemisphere that I'm aware of. More people have been quite literally been injured and killed from McDonalds cheeseburgers than avian influenza.
Good afternoon!!!
Dr. Griffin, so much to think about. What is “neuropasqu -…”? I’m not sure I know that is Thanks for ALL you, Dr. Racaniello and all the Microbe TV contributors continue to provide. 😊
Post-acute sequelae?
Doc. I know you can’t give personal medical advice online but… the question about healthy kids. You never answered about the risk for kids with no comorbidities and 3 vaccines What is their risk? Pretty close to zero?
Thankyou for such important information.
When do we get to see a photo of Dr Griffin when he had hair ?
I bet the psychological impact of watching people you meet die before you meet again
Now is not the time for denial...
The teenager had conjunctivities so obviously it's a animal to human infection.
16:31 I think it's pretty reasonable for the sick person to stay in their room and the others to keep their distance most of the time. That's how you avoid catching things as a family.
31:41 I'm automatically throwing retrospective studies in the trash if they do not specify how they matched the control cohort, like this one. It's pretty much the only relevant information.
Letters, broncho-vaxom: given that GI tolerance does not extend to IgA antibody production, and because of cross mucosal immunity, looks like it could work
It appears that I will now get Novavax C19 vax since after 5 spike vaccines I
developed several open sores on ankles/lower legs; which took several months
to clear up; a problem which has been reported as about 2.5 pct risk of vessel
lining leakage in several journals. In my case it was leakage with open sores.
The teenager in Canada is not breathing on their own yet- still on a ventilator.
Oh the poor child and family!
dr Daniel has lost a lot of weight !
Yes!
Hope he's okay...
I thought so too. Ya think he’ll let us in on what’s going on?
@@PolkadotpupMaybe turbo cancer with the related loss of appetite? Or maybe he went on a Keto diet or maybe he is doing (semaglutide injections) Ozempic.
I am here to help and help I do.
I've noticed it too and hope it's on purpose.
Wasn’t that the issue with the RSV vaccine? They didn’t use much of the older population for whom it is recommended for?
I was initially disappointed that Lex Friedman interviewed RFK. However before he started, he mentioned Vincent’s name and Paul Offit plus some other credible scientists as a source for accurate fact checking. So, I have to give Lex a bit of a pass. I still wish no one would give noted conspiracy air time to spread misinformation.
Cdc is calling taking surveys on vaccinations? Anyone else ?
Excellent update but you say that the vaccine reduces the risk of infection. Here in the UK everyone is told that the boosters don't stop you from getting infected they just prevent severe disease. I wish you would make some suggestions for those of us on immune suppression meds who have no covid antibodies despite all those vaxxes! What about mucosal protection? Other than masking and isolating what can we do?
There are things you could do but this is not the forum to do it in. And mean not just this YT cast but the whole of TH-cam. I'll give you a hint, enhance your levels of AMP-1 & beta-2 defensin.
Do you have Pemgarda?
@@Sharla1213 We have nothing in the UK. No Sipabivart either. Paxlovid in short supply and you have to fight for it.
@@man_at_the_end_of_time Thank you. I've not come across this before, so off to do my research. Could be a real help.
@@Cajeput There are YT channels that have covered the topic but I've got you closer to the working end of things. Pubmed is a resource.
36:00 long covid is real, and if anything, has been underplayed
Does anyone know if the Canadian teenager was an Avid outdoors person? Contact with geese or their excrement? It would be nice to see an interview with Scott Hensley again.
Apparently the child was too sick to be interviewed but I'm guessing that's how he/she contracted the virus. I hope we know soon.
@@Turtledove2009 the child is on a vent and not breathing on their own yet,
@@jenniferw1595 Crossing my fingers the child will fully recover.
10:16 could h5n1 be transmitted though raw milk?!?!? I thought it was respiratory! Wouldn’t stomach acid neutralize any viral matter?
I would like a future episode explaining this.
Stomach acid does not, as is the case with Covid affecting the gut even as a replication point
@@rbdesigner725Rephrase your comment as it was less intelligible that a speech by the current VP of the USA
@@man_at_the_end_of_time Right. SHE'S a gibberish fountain, yet she knows when to use 'than' rather than 'that' in a sentence. Your trolling is at best tiresome.
@@Starclimber I am typing on my phone with one finger.
Keep up the great work guys. I'm old enough to remember a "Quincy" episode where a guy got drunk after killing someone with a car to get away with "accidentally" driving drunk!
Entry joke was top tier 🤣🤣
'Crossed over from the wet market that was 1 mile from the lab that worked on GOF coronavirus research, funded by NIH'.
This is so dumb . 1 : one not one mile ever 13 miles . 2: it’s not even the 10 the most crowded place in Wuhan , why did it not leak to a more crowded place ?3: there were two lineages . Do you think within a week of each other they leaked twice and went straight to wet Market? Are you In your senses ? 4; why did it not effect relatives of lab workers ? I am just beginning .
Let’s see for once a lab leaked is not total dunce . Never met one yet who was not.
No one at first thanksgiving was illegal. There was no law broken.
If I were you, I'd go read up on what actually took place on the very first "Thanksgiving".
The first time it was called as such was in 1637 when Massachusetts Colony Governor John Winthrop declared a day of thanksgiving after pilgrams murdered 700 Pequot people.
So no laws broken.. just the murder of 700 Native Americans then onto a feast. 😢
And ... long vaxed is real but under played by both of you.
@@circa1890 golly I did not know that~
@@catherinecbeyer9199 Thank you!
@ I was thinking of the first very first thanksgiving in 1621 16 years before.
Daniel, I’m laughing out loud 🤣
I liked the last email/ comment
Maybe using warmed oxigen mix at body temperature can decrease severity of Covid19, especially at patients with,, cold agglutinine,,or with higher cryoglobuline IgM level ?
PoliticsRuinsEverything
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Ithink the lockdowns were frigthening and cruel...!
physics girl the case is so tragic and would have been avoidable if only she had been vaccinated
She was vaccinated. What happened is that she pushed herself during her honeymoon after getting sick instead of resting.
@@amiesparkle00 vaccination failure?
@@cylon5741 See response above re pushing herself.
@@Turtledove2009 That is conjecture. Have you considered she may have "long vax"?
@@Turtledove2009 "Again, we must ask ourselves: Is this slowly, inexorably occurring in each of us, with each exposure to SARS-CoV-2 and its Spike Protein? Is our own BRS being gradually impaired? We must continue to search for and find answers. God bless the Pilots, and the rest of us. " - Walter M. Chestnut
Quote is from his Nov. 18, 2024 research article
"The Spike Protein, Baroreceptors and Sudden Death: Think Pilots
The Spike Protein’s presence in Baroreceptor locations may fatally disrupt communication between the brain and the heart."