DO NOT BUY this poorly built chainsaw! AND I GOT ROBBED! VLOG Broken Coocheer 5800 Review
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Hello. It is refreshing to see a woman as a small engine mechanic. I have been in the field for about 25 years now. We are a dying breed in this throw away society. I really appreciate your videos. They are very informative and not grueling to watch. So many videos out there are of what not to do and not so much as to how to repair the problem. Thank you.
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
I started working on small engines in my grandad's shop back in the 60's. believe me there were "disposable" junk back then too like this one. if we had co-workers like you back then I might have stayed in the business! love your content you are amazing
Thanks for your excellent expose'.. I just this chainsaw in today's mail. Have not nor will I start it up. It gets returned tomorrow in it's original packaging. Can't thank you enough for this video. Blessings.
$37.50 for labor??? Where are you? That’s way too cheep.
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Ok, you asked for a reply. I got into small engine repair in '84. I had 16 acres of private lawn to mow. You keep me up to date with tips and tricks. It's good. Thank you!
That has been my biggest dilemma as a small engine mechanic. When to call it quits on a repair. To have to call the customer and tell him that the repair is going to cost more than it's worth. It's the reason I don't work on John Deere products. The parts are outrageous. I refuse to call the customer and tell him a brake cable for his mower is $110. I save the hassle and stopped taking them in. Thanks for the videos
@Fred brandon "dealership"-or should I say stealership prices. And the small shops take a beating $$ wise when ordering that stuff...
In some cases it's still cheaper or better to fix what you have even if the cost is "more than it's worth".
As much as I enjoy the straight forward tutorials and the “insider secrets” videos, would love to hear more reviews like this one... . From a repair shop’s viewpoint, would be great to hear about who’s push mowers you like, what lawn tractor you’d spend your own money on, or not, electric vs. gas, etc. in today’s world product reviews are usually worthless and/or paid for - you do a great job of not hyping specific brands for the most part - and when you do, they’re based on facts and personal use - reason why I rushed out to get a Speed Feed after seeing it on your channel. As someone who enjoys maintaining their equipment over the condition of their lawn, keep up the great content!
Bought my first chainsaw in the early '80s, a Poulan. After a couple of years I started having issues with it either starting hard or starting ok but not running right. Sold it for $50 and bought a professional grade 154 Husky along with my dad who purchased a new pro 266 Husky in 1984. Just replaced the 154 in 2021 with a new 562XP Husky. Dad is gone but the old 266 is still going strong. You get what you pay for.
Husqvarna 266XP is a Muscle Saw absolutely a beast and pings like a dirt bike at a idle.
A good chain and that 266XP probably cuts faster then your 562XP and definitely sounds cooler.
Poulan back pack blower sucks too.
@@kevind3185
When I was logging I ran a 385XP Husqvarna, one day I went down into the woods behind my house to cut some firewood with it, on the way back up to the house I stopped at my next door neighbors transmission shop which was in a garage behind his house, the owner and his brother were in there and when I first walked in he ask "What size engine is on that saw of your's? We could hear that thing all the way up hear and it sounds pretty mean, we've been taking bets on what size engine is on it."
I told him "85cc".
He said "Jesus Christ there's an 80cc dirt bike class in motocross racing".
And I told him "Yea, when I have the 3 foot bar on it and rev it up and sink it into a tree it's like holding on to an 80cc racing bike".
That saw was mean as hell, with a skip tooth chain on that 3 foot bar it would melt right through a 3+ foot diameter hardwood tree and ask for more.
@@dukecraig2402 that's a serious saw for sure ,, I own a 395XP and a 3120 ,,both are killers ,,,i've got a 48 inch bar on the 3120 ,, it's got so much torque that you can stand on it even cutting a 4 foot tree
oh yeah
Thanks for the heads up. After 25 years of using outdoor power equipment, I have found that spending the $40-$50 more than the 'cheaper' brands is well worth it as far as durable equipment is concerned. With the cheaper brands, I found myself running into problems that routine maintenance just won't fix. I've used an echo cs 310 for almost a decade and haven't looked back. I've cleared out small national forests with it (worked the crap out of it), have used things like surfactant when I've run out of bar and chain oil, has tumbled around in the trailer, tons of abuse, and the saw still starts after 3-4 pulls and runs strong, like I could clear out small forests with no problem. I don't really have a specific brand that I can say don't buy, to me, all the cheaper models are a do not buy thing as far as longevity is concerned. Not to say the cheaper ones won't work, they do work, they've just given much more problems and eventually found their selves in a scrap junk pile.
Why don't,A company in USA,make their own chainsaw,and their products,so we don't have to deal things like this
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Thanks for the heads up on Coocher. I had never heard of that brand before and not knowing it was Chinese made, but was thinking about buying a Coocher trimmer/ brush cutter from Amazon. After seeing this video I belive I have changed my mind about that.
I owned an Echo chain saw. It cranked easy and cut like a razor. Still going strong after 10 yrs. I have owned a Stihl also. Very hard to crank but when it gets going it is great.
I had 2 cheap huskies (141). They are true JUNK. One injected a mounting nut which I still can’t figure out how they made that possible but the dealer knew. The replacement was a hard starting crapper. I ditched it and got an Echo at Home Depot and its been fantastic 15 years on👍🏻
ALL Echo tools are great!!
I have liked my Echos too… Seems like Stihl is more fussy.
@@drizler I just found out my Husky 235 is a Poulon, and I've got issues.
I love you for telling "the way it is" with the China junk. More companies should do the same.
the problem with china junk, is once in a while they make something really good for cheap.
Which fools people into thinking they can get anything like it, or get one just like it a year later.
I design products that are made in China. They are made exactly the way you ask them to and for a reasonable price. If you aren’t happy with their reasonable price, they will tell you how they can make it cheaper but in the end the decision is with the company making the request. If you ask them for a quality product they will deliver, and they can. So ask yourself who is to blame for the crap you have in front of you.
@@carbonunit6573 I blame people like you for helping the commie country get the knowhow to build the junk.
@@ldr9146 Lol shut up McCarthy
@@Gulpathfinder Whaaaaaaat the fuck
The one thing I always tell people, "If you're buying it off Amazon. You're getting garbage." IF you're buying power equipment. Go to Lowe's, Ace, Home Depot, the local equipment shop, and hell, even a pawn shop. Anywhere but Amazon. The pawn shop part, you've got a chance of getting trash. But, nowhere near as often as you get it from Amazon.
I've had good luck with their drill press, but I can't comment on small engines.
Just an FYI, if you go into Lowes and buy a Craftsman chainsaw, this is the saw that you get. My guess is that the factory quality control they come from is better than the folks at Coocheer?`There are some good things about this unit though? Most consumer grade saws are clam shell design and this is one of the rare ones with an all metal case rather than just the jug and crank being metal with plastic tanks and frame.
When you order 2 oil pumps off of Amazon, the package arrives with 4 pumps as they already know one or two may not work brand new Lol. I have one that runs like crazy. Starts every time and plenty of power for the CC's it claims to be? If you buy one on Amazon or Lowes, you will, repeat WILL be changing out a few oil pumps until one works.
The reason the saw in this video died is because the oil pump quit, the bar, chain and clutch overheated and the user didn't realize why it was cutting poorly so they continued until the heat affected the crank seal and probably melted the bar cover? The bar attached to that saw probably has no paint except in the middle, as the chain running with no oil burned all of it off from the edge inwards and also caused the tempering process to reverse and none of the bars edges are still hardened.
Every cut they made with this saw was a curve to one side or smiley face in the end. Oh well?
That is because amazon lets those scam china crap sellers use their site to sell their china junk. Watch the seller info and most will say china or have some funky name in English that is a dead give-a-way it's being sold from china. Also a dead give-a-way, is the time of shipping to receive the product, clue it's coming from china and do not buy those items on amazon from those scam china sellers. Report them as scammers to amazon.
@@carbonarrow7 I just make it easy on myself. I don't deal with Amazon at all. If I need tools or power equipment. I go to the hardware store or autoparts store to get it. If I need computer parts. I'll go to Best Best or somewhere else local and get it or order it.
This has three advantages over Amazon.
1 - I know I'll be getting a quality product.
2- I know if something goes wrong with it early on, I can go swap it out, without having to wait for all the return shipping crap. I've had this one happen with a Poulan chainsaw that was pumping bar oil into the carbarator. I returned it and dropped the little extra to get a Husqvarna instead.
3- It supports my local economy.
Well, four advantages really.
4. I can go to the store, pay for the item, and leave with it. I don't have to wait for shipping at all. Well, unless it's a computer part of something that needs to be ordered.
@@jarack3256 There is a limit on supporting your local businesses. Around here the local businesses want and do jack their prices to that of California cost of living and this is a small town that only creates new business of Banks, credit unions, restaurants, and realtors, complement of the ignorant city council and its operations. On those wages they expect those businesses to keep supporting each other and the local economy forgetting the actual cost of living now, and with everything being so price jacked now, it is stopping people from so called luxury buying and going back to basic necessities buying only. With most wages being stagnate and a average restaurant meal here costing $30 per person or more in a small town, Walmart jacking food prices and their products distribution has been so lacking that they are out of stock on many items and lots of constant empty shelves for over a year now, so much that a shift of is customers are now going to other grocery stores that have managed to keep there shelves stocked and not price jacked on their food items. Walmart here now is losing money and customers over their food price jacking, having to self checkout, bag your own groceries and now pay for your plastic bags and paper sacks, and still a constant barrage of empty shelves. So the support your local businesses crap is getting out of hand when the businesses cannot supply what the community needs for products and items, jack their prices to that of California and New York cost of living in a small town, Still having to go on line to order items or products because they are actually cheaper for same items and or cannot find at any stores due to the fact they will not stock common used items for the community by its people. So, support your local businesses in most areas today is a joke, and a conditional brainwashing tactic to spend what little a family has left on price jacked products just to support your local business. If a business cannot keep products in stock and prices competitive for your local area forcing people to shop elsewhere, they need to be out of business.
I was a bit iffish about Ryobi, but I bought one anyway, about 6 or 7 years ago. It's a treat. As long as you clean, lube and sharpen regularly, no worries mate!
I bought a new Stihl used it once and put it away dry. I tried to start it last year and gave up. I just watched tour video on starting saws, went out and tried it and it worked. Thanks.
I got the coocheer 62cc and had constant problems from day one. Eventually it died at not even a year old. I took it apart and somehow had a bent crankshaft and the flywheel key sheared off. you get what you pay for. I've since upgraded to a CS-590.
Really makes you wonder why someone would spend all that time designing, casting, and assembling such a piece of junk. A lot of effort that could easily be put to use making a decent saw for a few dollars more.
There's a ton of decent almost identical saws for only a few dollars more. I heard the really cheap ones are made from the reject parts off the better ones.
This saws been cloned for 5-10 years now and sold under a ton of different names, some of the slightly more expensive ones are trouble free for years, I have 2 a joncutter and a timberpro, same design just put together better and have been trouble free.
Parts are also dirt cheap and super easy to get once you figure out its sold under tons of names.
@@nseric1233 You're right. Absolutely. The defect parts have to go somewhere. I believe a batch of items does not pass inspection because 10% or so fail. So the whole batch gets sold to a dealer and he/she deals with the 10% returns...or more because they're no good in a perfect state. We have a saying in my area...Don't by anything made on a Monday or late on a Friday. LOL
I worked for a Factory as a Parts Inspector. I could and would reject parts and was told to reject parts even if they were 100% Usable but the Name on the part was Smudged or had a Dent in it on the outside that did not effect/affect the inside and other Minor Things.. Ones without any Defects at all would ( one part for Example) sell for $100, the one with the Crooked name or dent would sell for $40... those Cheaper parts were bought up by Big Companies to make Cheaper Products... But in this Case, they went Bottom of the Barrel for parts.
@@Eddie.D346 You could be right...absolutely. My last job paid me $75/hr, and charged me out at over $100/hr with all the govt. required stuff. My boss bought a $3000.00 18 volt strut cutter to save me the steps from the field to the hydraulic strut cutter set up 200 ft away. I'm retired now and have time to tear tools apart, but on some jobs minutes add up to hours and really cut into profit. I certainly wouldn't want to be 80ft up in a tree when I find out my cheap saw failed. LOL
Thats the point though ,make it cheap and nasty and customers will buy it because its ........ cheap
My Dad bought a Homelite Super XL with a manual oiler in about 1964. I was about 7 or 8 years old and not strong enough to pick it up and hold it very long. I would throw it up onto the log and have to set it on the ground at the end of the cut. We had other big saws, Pioneers and McCullochs which were way too big for me at the time. I used that saw for years and all through high school sawing and selling cord wood to make money. I even used it occasionally after that and all during this time other family members routinely used it too. I would bet that old saw cut thousands of cords of wood, mostly oak. Recently I found that old saw in my Dad’s garage where it hadn’t been used in who knows how many years. After taking it home and putting fresh gas (16:1) and oil in it, pulling the rope less than 5 times, it fired up and ran perfect. I then used it to cut up a downed 24” fir. What’s truly amazing the saw has never needed any work other than two helicoils for the muffler. They sure don’t make any brand of saw like that anymore.
The little XL2 top handles were great saws too. Cut a lot of firewood with one.
Back then Homelite was the saw to have, We used it to cut firewood and hired to clear trees from powerlines. They were the best then.
Love your channel! I’m a retired teacher who became a Stihl tech, and have been doing this for about 5 years at an Ace Hardware. Yourself, Donny Boy, and Small Engine Saloon are my go-to to pick up new tips, and frankly, to empathize with! I love customer descriptions…….”it won’t start or run, hasn’t been run in two years, may need an air filter.” Yep, that will fix it! Also, “just needs a tune-up.” Right!! Chris
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@@petersack5074 Yes, Forgive me, she’s definitely on my viewing list!
Been cutting timber for decades. Always been satisfied with Olympic, Stihl, Jonsered, and Echo saws.
I told myself a long time ago: never pay for Coochee
Word😭
I never heard of that brand but it REEKS of Commie junkiness😡
Hahaha! Good call. It still costs you money, though.
"Coochee" is never free. It's only a question of price...
Does dinner count?
Thank you for the informative video. I use chainsaws a lot on the farm and one of my favorite saws is a Husqvarna with a 16 inch cutting bar. Unfortunately I have had to discard it because of the starting pull rope and parts related keep breaking and I have spent way more money on repairs than it is worth. My service person is experienced and seems to fix the problem for a little while but it always fails at the wrong time. Good riddance! I have since purchased an Echo brand and have had good performance from it so far! Time will tell if I made a good choice! POMO
echo is the same saw as steel
I just bought the smaller $200 Echo the chain wore out in a half hour. Bought a good chain and adj the carb. Now it works great. I was a Echo dealer for 15 years in Phoenix.
I have two forty year old 16” Stihls…running flawlessly. Why try to save a few dollars on an Amazon purchase…save now pay later??!! No thanks. Keep up the great work and QC insights you provide! Great and valuable content.
if they hadn't stolen your trash can you'd have a place for that saw
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It's red. Plant that bad boy vertical standing on the blade in maybe some cement. It would be like a car on a post.
I love to hear about people and China junk, if their military crap is like that saw no need for us to worry much
In my country this type of saws are very popular and they have way too many problems, the crankshafts always wear where the clutch bearing rides on, (the same thing Donyboy73 explained in one of his recent videos, even the crapy bearings are harder than the crankshafts), the handlebars either bend or break at the bottom part (i think the one of the video has the handlebar bent back at the top corner at the starter side) , the guide bars sometimes have like a 2mm wide groove from the factory and the chains always flop around, the chains seem to stretch most of the time under normal use and tension and start to jump or stick on the sprocket rim, the recoil also has a tendency to have the pulley teeth destroyed rather easy or the sping breaks without any reason, the buffers also wear out pretty fast and the on/off switch is always loose and flopping around, i even once got a crankshaft to get bent at the connecting rod end while pulling the starter, the flywheel starter to rub with the coil for no reason until i saw the crankshaft end moving to the sides and i couldn't believe it, they are really bad saws to work on and even though i think the chinese trimmers and brushcutters can be somewhat good i can't say the same for the chainsaws
YEP Donyboy's videos are a great 👍 reference source, I can't remember everything.
Thanks for the heads up on this cheap made saw. I bought a Stihl for I will use it just once in a while seems nice and light to use not to heavy. I have been using saws for over 50 years. thanks for your awesome videos and you are doing a great job explaining things as you do your video's
My 1985 McCulloch 20” bar 3.5 cubic inch PM 605 still soldiering on.
Runs great on premium pump gas, non ethanol, Bel Ray SI-7 50 to 1 premix.
Sharp chain and greased bar nose sprocket ⚙️ with bar oil it will sawbuck up 18” logs 🪵 with authority.
Bit loud, ear plugs, virtually no smoke.
Put dual raker teeth on saw bar joint for good leverage. Will run in sweet spot with plenty of power with out a miss. Yellow and Black color scheme with rubber mounted handles for low vibration.
Slightly lower chain rake teeth will allow cutting teeth to each pull some nice chips.
This video came too late for me. However, my Coocheer 5800 has run well, so far. If it makes it a couple more weeks, I will be happy. I have a couple Stihl chainsaws and a couple little Dewalt 20 volt units. I love those Dewalts. Got one for my lady when she was first staying at my cabin alone. There are days when you have trees block the drive and are forced to cut your way out. Today might be one of them, as it has rained, snowed, and it is windy. I enjoyed that little Dewalt so much, I got a second.
Thinking of a corded electric now, if anyone has a recommendation. My Stihls run fine, usually, but the electrics require so little maintenance in comparison.
Talking about cheap chainsaws. Was helping a neighbour last week to chop down some trees on their property using my trusty 20yr old Stihl chain saw. After about an hour the chain crapped itself & I didn't have a spare. No worries said the neighbour we bought a new chainsaw recently - made in China call ROK which I'd never heard of for $129 Aust (about $96 US) from the local hardware store on special. It did throw off a chain initially but after putting it back on the bloody thing worked faultlessly for the rest of the day which surprised me. Don't know how long it will last but was impressed at that price it actually did the job.
Great video Bree - life is just to too short to deal with saws like this. Thanks for sharing.
In the 90s when I was more ignorant than I am now, I bought a sears crapsman, made by poulan.
I got an education, quickly. My 441 has lasted over 10 years and still runs great with only regular maintenance.
Just came across your channel today watched about 10 videos so far I really like your honesty
Bought a 20V electric Kobalt chainsaw from Lowe's and changed out the factory 14" bar for an Oregon 18" one. Never been happier with it.
Poulan was a good saw brand years ago . I still have a 306A and it’s been a very reliable beast . Only 1 carb rebuild in 40 years
I have a 1994 Stihl 009L 12" Bar. Mix 2 stroke Oil a little rich. Never been in the shop. Keep it in the Orange case when not using. Change Plug, Air Filter and Sharpen chain. Cut a ton of wood. Would buy another if still made in a Heart beat.
My dad had a Stihl when we lived in the Midwest and I don’t ever remember him having a problem with it; always started right up in the spring…however, he took care of his tools. I have a Poulan I’m trying to get running after sitting for two years with old gas inside…
And this is why you don't buy off-brand power equipment from Amazon, it's just best to spend a little bit of extra money to get a good name brand song even if it's just a Poulan or Remmington. I have a Remington pole saw and it works just fine, someone dropped it though (not me) and bent the shaft a little bit but it still works
Some of the cheaper 4 stroke Stihls and Husqvarnas we had on the farm over the years, we'd have to replace the fuel lines pretty much yearly. I think this one in the video takes the cake though. Now I will not complain about replacing another fuel line and will just be thankful the oiler works.
Great info. I love my Mcculloch 20 inch bar. Had it for years.
In the 90's I had a Sears Craftsman Chainsaw I got for a hundred dollars .... I used the hell out of that thing for years and it would cut through anything .. When it finally died the guy at the repair shop said it would cost more to rebuild it than the cost of the saw ..... So I got a Echo for 250 and I've had it fo 20 years and I only had to replace the gas bubble .....and it cuts through anything ... 😊 😊 😊
To call anything made in China “ professional “ is like calling a politician “ honest”
Never thought I'd see a chainsaw worse than a poulan.
@snapbean7817 i got a new one about 5 years ago. It wouldn't run for more than an hour before I had to completely clean it up and mess with the carburetor or fuel lines. It was the worst piece of equipment I've ever used! I did hear the older ones fired right up with a clean air filter, and fresh gas... but not mine!!
Never heard of this brand. I really pick up some valuable information from you. Thank you.
I live in Australia, so I havent seen this brand here. but from my experience with other cheap garden tools like these, I now will only use the Stihl brand. sure, you pay a bit more upfront, but the quality is there, and after sales service and back up is so easy to find if you need it. please people, dont buy crap to save a few dollars. its not worth it.
I grew up in the 1950's on a small, poor farm on which our version of a chainsaw was a 2 man crosscut man -killer. I saw those beautiful, bright yellow McCullough chainsaws. Oh how much I wanted one. The old saw mill down the creek from us has a real beast of a McCullough that had a long bar and required 2 men. I didn't want that but I wanted something better than what we had to use on our hardwood trees.
I have had many chainsaws. Last Year I bought a Ryobi 18 inch 40 volt chainsaw with the case for 300 dollars. I already had the mower and a lot of batteries and chargers. Now it is my go to chainsaw. Far easier, quieter than any chainsaw I have owned. It goes when you pull the trigger every time. Pick it up and cut. Set it down. Pick it up and cut some more. No fuel to deal with. No stupid starting problems. No ear protection required. I have one of those cheap Chinese saws should I run out of batteries, but so far it sits in the garage. Never plan to invest in an expensive chainsaw again.
wow so much trash out there ! i was looking for a new blower and it was down to husqvarna or echo as my hitachi blower is 10 years old and then i saw your video on true fuel as that is what i was using . i switched to red armor mixed with a gallon of high test and now my blower works like a champ thank you so much chickanic
Great vid . . . gonna go and hug my 30 year old second hand buy stihls and fondly think of the thousands of cords cut.
The Cooch don't chooch 😆 ! I used to work for a place that sold Tanaka chain saws and they were so bad that when customers returned them under warranty, the repair techs in the shop wouldn't take them if offered for free!
Neighbor had a Tanaka. He liked it WHEN it would start b/c it started so easy. In no time at all dealer who sold it to him could not get parts, it got tossed.
I have always brought cheap lawn mowers between 250 and 350$ but after 3 to 5 years it gets harder to buy parts mostly air filters carb over haul kits. so I just buy another 250$ mower because it cheaper that taking it to mower service centre .
Good video. A chainsaw is definitely a tool that you don’t want to go cheap on. So freaking dangerous. Buy a good brand name saw. There are a few. I am a Stihl owner and have several of them. I have also used Echo, Husqvarna, Jonsared. All decent. Don’t skimp when buying this tool.
I just got a Woodmizer LX25 sawmill. My brother and father got all sorts of Husqvarna and Jonsered. We also have a CS310 and CS400 Echo for light work. Loads of fun. My personal saw was a salvaged Echo CS6700 (Early orange model) but I scored another piston. This time we think bearings screwed too.
I need a new and serious upgrade. Was thinking....CS620PW with the 27", cause I got a practically new Power Match 20" from my 6700.
Hell,I bought a $80.00 one off ebay that resembles that one and it kicks ass so far. Crossing my fingers! Only used it for 45 minutes but it helped me make $100.00 along with some pole saw work.
I can tell you really liked this saw. Ok so I lied. It would look good in your recycle pile as it still has some good paint on it. This new junk might make your old junk look better is all I'm saying. Maybe the thief is coming back another day for what was in the barrel. Leave it for a couple of days to see. Good luck and Happy Easter.
A long time ago, I bought a China chain Saw on Amazon for $109 and believe it or not, it still works fine today. It was a HolaRosa brand and it had all kinds of negative reviews on it when it came to getting it started... When I received the saw, I read through the whole manual and I noticed that there was a lot of misleading information in it about getting it started. So I started it the old fashion way and it started right up on the third pull every time on a cold start. I haven't had one problem with it and my brother keeps shaking his head because his saw cost almost $500 for it and he has all kinds of problems getting it started. He has to always spray starter fluid in it to get it to start.
Tell bro to rebuild his carburetor, and from now on only use non-ethanol gas.
Almost like engine was overheating due to poor cooling (judging by the looks of the unfinished cylinder) wonder how much more of it was unfinished. The case expanded and the seal started
creeping out and melted plastic. 🤷♂
Good video Thanks 👍
I had two Sthil saws and they were both junk. Got a Husqvarna over ten years ago and it's still running well.
Good to hear an experts opinion
If you want a good, reasonably priced chain saw, get a Poulan. I am not a pro, but I do have 7 acres of trees on my property, and do a lot of fire wood. I cut BIG trees, mostly down wood these days. I've owned several brands over the years, but currently have an 20" Poulan, and my latest, a little 14" Poulan. This 14" was a referb I got for $100 bucks at Wallyworld (Walmart). Purchased it on line, and it was delivered to my local store. It was like brand new, and ran fine.
As I said earlier, I cut big trees. I bought the small one because it is handier in the bush where footing is inconsistent. I use that 14" to cut bigger trees than the guide bar length, some 20-25 inches or so in diameter. Works great. Just keep it sharp, well oiled, and let the saw do the job. Don't push it. Obviously, I have to cut from both sides of these big logs.
As I said, I am not a pro, so do not use is every day, day in and out. If I did, I would probably buy a Husqvarna or an Echo, but that $100 Poulan will last me for a long time, as long as I treat it right. Just don't skimp on the oil, and use Sta-Bil in the fuel.
Oh, yeah, I use waste oil for the guide bar, cut with a bit of ATF, and I use just plain old two-cycle oil in the fuel. Use a single use bottle as a measure.
Also, just so you know, I am a machinist and mechanic. I've bored out seized two stroke engines (Ryobi) and sleeved them with steel sleeves (Iron Pipe used for the sleeve), and run the same piston, cleaned up, with a new ring in them, and they run just fine.
China can't even produce a chainsaw that works, but we are supposed to be afraid of their aircraft carrier?
What an utterly stupid comment , go and check out where most of the power tools are made clown , so you must think Milwaukee ,or Dewalt , or Makita are all crap !!, All of them are made in China as well as other countries , and I bet if the US tried to make a gas powered chain saw with an 18 inch bar for 80 USD you wouldn't even get the bloody thing to start the quality would that bad , their type 055 would totally destroy any American aircraft carrier and their subs as well , go get educated fool !!!
@@dennisrichards7994 Hug your communists a little tighter comrade.
@@Qingeaton Well well a Chinese hater , geez !! who would have thought it , Trump comes to office and states we will have a trade war with China , but because he got utterly hammed so the next step is to gang up on China and smear China with untruths and propaganda and as the US gets weaker and weaker because his stupidity , he loses the presidential election and sleepy joe steps in but instead of doing the right thing and fix the utter chaos of Trump he has made it even worse , and now the US looks like a third world country tent slums all over the United States , over half the country is financially stressed , and nearly 50 million people are below the poverty line and the violent crime is on the increase and now dummies like you are blaming China for your own failures , you and 52 % of the rest of the sheep now want to war with China only problem is they will kick your arse , this is a typical tantrum of a loser , because they see that they can't win the chess game so they think it's better to tip the board over and have the pieces go all over the floor , so sad !!!
@@dennisrichards7994 The Chinese people are fine. The communists are committing genocide. China is not an equal of the western democracies, and we should quit treating them like they are.
If you think china only makes junk don't delude yourself, they have multiple teirs of quality. They export the junk. My husky was one of the most troublesome saws I ever owned. Aways kept the Polan as a back and has never disappointed.
Have echo now and couldn't be more pleased. China can make quality products, heck they steal everyone's designs.
At least it ran...I bought a Poulan chain saw brand new and never could get it started. Some things are made to sell and not to last.
Had a customer bring in a Stihl we sold him that popped a seal. Had another customer bring back a Honda water pump he bought in less than 2 hours. It blew out the shaft seal on the pump side and the water pressure sprayed along the shaft through the engine oil seal into the engine and filled the case with water which eventually seized the engine. Both were covered under warranty. Honda gave the guy another brand new pump and paid for me to send them the pump that failed.
Like W.C.Fields said,” There’s a sucker born every minute.” and it’s probably on a sign printed in Mandarin in the factory.
I've got one similar to that one in England leeks like fook .Take the muffler off and it's well scored but still runs .
I had an old poulan chainsaw I bought used. I used it logging for eight years without problem. At the end it lost power so I took it to the shop. The mechanic was able to put his finger thru the cylinder wall easily.
That actually happened to me except it was a contractor grade trash bag we used to clean up a street in our town. The person dumped.the trash back out and took the bag.
If you can't afford a new name brand saw buy one used. About the same price as that $hitbox was new but your getting something with quality parts that is easy to get replacement stuff for.
Support local businesses. This is a great shop.
Still have good chain saws but I like. Echo we have 3 of them different size up to like 20 in and for small work that 12 inches is great light weight
Reminds me of a husqvarna made craftsman I bought years ago. The teeth of the clutch sheared off.
I have a love/hate relationship with chainsaws. I have a couple of Husqvarna's and one or the other gives me trouble from time to time...and last time I had a carb cleaned it was nearly $100!!! (gotta learn to do it myself)!
Cheaper 'seems' better to the homeowner that will only use it here and there - but buyer beware, as often you get what you pay for - 'pay me now or pay me later'.
I wonder what those Harbor Freight ones are like. I think that that would be a worthy endeavor.
Lol, yeah I'd say it's that one, I've used many different saws over the years In my line of work and never seen that lol, Husqvarna is a great saw , I just recently bought a new black max from Walmart, and u know it cuts great 👍 .
I only purchase from 3 different brands... Stihl, Husqvarna and Echo.
Whether it's a chainsaw or weed eater, if you stay with those brands... you won't be disappointed!
What under $150 is the first red flag. Especially being shipped all the way from China. Never buy anything you've never heard of especially at a rock-bottom price.
Thank you for filling Us in on this never heard of before brand. 😊
When I saw what the video was called I thought for sure you were going to name the Poulan! We have one from Walmart that we have never been able to start and a lot of buyers on Amazon left poor reviews because they couldn't get it started either.
I've had two echo saws loved them both
Stihl Chainsaws are the gold standard of Chainsaws
best used as an anchor......... also seeing the battery operated robot automowers are recalled now .
This Chinese made chain saw is sold under many different names. Have one on my bench exactly the same with oil pouring out.
Husqvarna 455 is the best saw I ever owned, before that 55 Rancher.
Stihl because I can’t fix ‘em, all my stuff for home use, this product well worth the money.
Okay i see seal twisted So seals are cheap, pop new one in it. That stop leak. Okay the cyl got slap that not cleaned off. So clean slap off So air blow through the cyl head veins to cool it. Clutch seem good put it back on with like touch blue lock tight. Handle you said was excellent hey 5 star 🌟 nothing else seems wrong fire it back up run heck out it.get you moneys worth out it till it blows up.
Someone stole your barrel. I am a veterinarian and had someone stole the large rocks I had set outside for dogs to pee on. I have had people steal the flags from my sign. The worse was someone backed up to an evergreen tree just off my parking area at Christmas time and they cut the top off of it. I figured that if they needed it that bad, so be it, Merry Christmas.
I thought my Loulan Pro 4620AVX was bad, but its awesome compared to that piece of junk. I still dont get the fact the 4620 doesnt have a primer bulb. Makes it a nightmare to start cold after a couple weeks on the shelf. PS, love your work 🙂
Thanks for the videos and I wish you were closer to the 704 Gastonia N.C you're awesome 👌
Hey, that Coocheer chainsaw might make a good boat anchor ! Albeit a bit expensive for the purpose but hey !!!
I picked up one of those 120.00 Poulan 20" 50cc "cheap" saws. Been trimming/falling trees with it for 4 years now at the farm and as needed in my property maintenance business. All the engine components have Husqvarna logos stamped into them so I'm fairly certain they're using Husqvarna engines in them. Makes sense as Poulan is a Husqvarna subsidiary. My question thus far would be, what do I get for spending 400.00 more?
Highly highly recommend staying away from the Walmart Black Max chainsaws they have a lot of defects bought one in April and completely trashed
My first chainsaw was, in fact, a Remington.
Bought it after Hurricane Hugo in 1989 bc I had 20 downed pine trees in my back yard.
That thing lasted 25 years with yearly use.
Tough as an anvil.
I used to be a Homelite dealer when I had a tree service. It was a fine saw, but customers used used motor, etc.
I think it is important to realize that there is two types of saws on the market.one is a smaller usually cheap saw ,short bar but not made for extended run time. They will burn up from heat.chain selection is limited..the second type is what is called production saws.these saws are made to run long periods of time day after day.if you dont do much cutting and dont care about what chain you use then any cheap saw might be for you.myself i spend hours a day cutting at times and am picky about what chain i run and like a longer bar.i wont run a non production saw.they just wont last
Looks like the criteria teeth to hook log for more control are upside down.
Good to know video. I try and stay away from the knock offs from China. The only thing I've been impressed with so far from China is the replacement carb(Mikuni) for my Stiehl string trimmer. The original was from China so I took a risk and ordered one off Amazon for 20 dollars. The kit came with the completed carb, also a Mikuni, a spark plug, a new gas cap and tank fuel filter, new fuel lines, 4 extra gaskets, 5 primer bulbs, and 2 extra fuel filters. Put the dang thing on and the trimmer still ran like crap. Turned out to be the spark arrester. Cleaned it with a wire brush, and sand paper, a little starter fluid and a bic lighter. Thing purrs like a kitten now.
So, the Stihl is partially made in China, huh?
First alarm bell was the 'CE' logo... or not the CE logo! The CE has a very specifically defined shape, and just writing "CE" on the label doesn't mean anything :D
My personal saws i have a mccullah pro Mac 55 mccullah 610 and a still ms271 those are my go to saws.
G'day,
You missed a bad flaw.
The Teeth on the Comb are so short, and the Exhaust Discharge Ports are aligned such that the Red Hot Exhaust Gas is directed onto the Face of the Log being cut...; and meanwhile the Air Filter Box joints leak like a Sieve and the Air being thus ingested comes from the Dust-Well behind the Chain Drive Sprocket.
Therefore, fine Wood-Dust bypasses the Air Filter and cakes inside the Carburettor Throat, building up in Plaques a couple of millimetres thick - before breaking off to go into the Combustion Chamber and then emerging amidst the Red Hot gasses as glowing chunks of Carbon.
It might be "safe" in Deciduous Timber, but here in Australia I bought such a Saw ("MTM" brand, but visually identical...), and in Summer it repeatedly set Stringybark alight while cutting Logs a foot thick or bigger.
In a Dry season it's not safe to use unless a Water Can is at the ready at all times.
Another issue is that the Cutter Bar and Chain were not Case Hardened, but left as soft-tempered Mild Steel.
So the Saw cut straight for 2 hrs of Engine Time but the Chain had to be constantly re-tensiondd , then it cut Wavy-Face Wood for an hour, and then it tried to cut in Circles and jammed, despite attempts to "dress the Bar"...
The $135 Saw has now required a new Bar and Chain which cost $100, and it's a different size Chain to my old Stihl so the shitty new Chinee Saw had to have a dedicated File as well ($60 for a Stihl 2-in-1 Unit).
As yet, since paying to fix the new Spare Cheap Saw, I haven't risked starting it ; in case it disappoints me again, leading me to adjust it with a Sledge Hammer.
My reviews of the MTM unit are in my "Mad Scientist Videos..." Playlist.
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
I am so glad for this video cuz I am currently looking for a new saw or find help figuring out what is wrong with my partners p70
I will be looking out for that saw.,watched from Old Harbour Jamaica.