Yep, könnte den ganzen Tag zuhören. Scott rockt. Aber sonst kriegen die US-Amerikaner das nicht mal bei UBER hin mit dem Umlaut. Obwohl: Motörhead? Ach nee, das was anderes... ¯\(°_o)/¯
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 Ain't the whole point of science fiction to be about something that is entirely plausible, but none the less impossible, at least under current technology and understanding? I mean at least that's my understanding of what differentiates between science fiction and science fantasy
@@Gogglesofkrome Yes, but unlike films like Back To The Future, this film messes a lot with gravity, which we probably know enough about to say it isn't plausible.
@asdrubale bisanzio I think they meant that it looks plausible, but nothing we know about would be able to explain it. That doesn't mean it has to be impossible, it just means it doesn't necessarily have to be possible.
I always wondered what'd actually happen if continent-scale shiny metal letters spelling UNIVERSAL suddenly hurtled into low Earth orbit and came to a stop. As depicted in the ident, Earth's cloud layer is instantly dissipated and all major cities spontaneously ignite from the tidal forces, in what looks like the beginning of an Extinction Level Event... seems plausible.
Gotta do something to get yourself more science consultancies. You don't put yourself out there you cant blame the world for not taking you up on the offer.
6:55 oh there is way more magnesium than that in the bulk of the moon; It is actually closer to 20%. Magnesium is just depleted in the crust because of the high density of the minerals it forms. Fortunately drilling to the mantle of the moon should be absolutely trivial compared to overall project. 😆
Wouldn’t the most „likely“ scenario be, that another moon sized object swings by the moon, taking some energy of the moon and thus make the moon fall close to earth?
Yeah probably would take an extrasolar rouge planet or alternatively that low but nonzero chance of Mercury entering an Unstable resonance with Venus Earth and Jupiter which gradually extends its aphelion over subsequent orbits
@@Dragrath1 Yeah, that could be at least partially a good story. Make Scott's bi-elliptic transfer an actual "accidental resonance" from the planets (possibly from a disruption from an exoplanet passing by, thus why never before predicted/detected). Then make it a "good news, it self corrects... bad news we just have a Great Reset on earth!!!" situation. Everyone has 30-50 years to get ready, meanwhile tides etc stop. Things get worse... like a real sci-fi story, not trash, and in one post we have a better story than this film will ever be.
@@Anvilshock [Technically Speaking] Picard _thought_ that (but was wise enough to not ask it verbally); but since Geordie did it, Q took the oportunity to answer it FOR Picard [he can read minds, but does not care about the blind human].
@@adolfodef Nope, Picard wasn't even anywhere near when this conversation happened in Engineering. If anyone, it was Data who was there as well as Geordie. See v=5xdbPhnfFEI.
@@Anvilshock OMG. Battle of the Star Trek TNG nerds. Well done anvil. But Argamis importantly added the context, which regarding that quote was not insignificant. I'm a gourmet chef and still can't get over the thought of eating a peptide cake...
@@SpecialEDy yeah it was a bit of a joke from the EFAP crew in regards to all the Mcguffins in the rise of skywalker someone accidentaly called them McMuffins
The smooth particle simulation at the very end is actually really cool, in that it makes more sense of bodies colliding in orientations other than head-on. At one point I wanted to recreate the Thea impactor in Universe Sandbox to see how the moon could form from it, but the game’s simulator couldn’t do it properly. The Smooth Particle Hydrodynamics (Im calling it SPH) one easily shows how two colliding bodies could stir up enough material in orbit to form such a large moon.
There's a detailed analysis on one of the SETI Seminar videos a few years ago. It is very interesting, and shows that the resulting debris cloud is more properly considered an extended atmosphere.
Not sure what SPH is and how it fits in with what you said before or after it. If you are requiring more evidence Luna formed from the same material as Terra, the oxygen isotopes are a match. Like isotopes can only come from the same place.
This explanation makes me want to grab my copy of seveneves, and read the whole thing from cover to cover all over again.... Thanks Scott for the feasible explanation of a very interesting and crazy idea
As long as one skips the second part, the "reconstructed" world five thousand years later. That part got me spectacularly angry (also, it showed the writer limits when it comes to the possibilities of genetics and the other "sciences of life"... Or his obsession for recreating racism no matter what, with extremely specious "biological reasons" ).
I loved the first two thirds of that book. The last act, ie. after the time skip, was entirely different, and really a bit silly. I think it'd've been better if it'd ended before that time skip.
It would have been awesome to see the Moon during Earth's Hadean period, when it was only 3.8 Earth radii away, and Earth's day was only six hours long. Imagine the tides!
@@szurketaltos2693 No, oceanic tides. Recent theories suggest that Earth was already a water world possibly as early as 4 billion years ago, or the end of the Hadean.
@@LEDewey_MD why would you say during the hadean if you meant the very end of it? Anyways, my very surface level understanding is there was liquid water oceans and substantial lava for most of the hadean.
The funny thing is the Moon is slowly escaping Earths gravity well, by a tiny amount each year. But imagine if it was the other way around, so that we knew for sure that eventually, it would collide. Now that would be one hell of a reset. It would be sort of like "The Revenge of Theia."
When I first heard of Moonfall I thought they were turning Jack McDevitt's Moonfall book into a movie. I think that would have been a much better plot than "aliens moved the Moon!"
Scott: Elbonia needs a space program. Of course, being Elbonia, the Minister in charge is actually a secret opponent. What are the worst choices of rocket types, fuels, engines, and spacecraft. for him to choose? He has the freedom to put different rocket engines in boosters than they were designed with, within plausible design constraints.
P.S. Scott, if it helps you can set this scenario in the present or in any year you choose. And this has to be hardware that's actually flown, or nearly. N-1 engines are OK, nuclear steam rockets and the nuclear Orion aren't.
@@Skorpychan They're selling it to Gwyneth Paltrow as an anti-aging mud pack. She's marketing it to billionaires and making a gazillion dollars, and Elbonia gets 90% in royalties.
This makes me think about the old tv show Space 1999, except there the moon was blown away from earth, never to return. I wonder how that event could be modeled in the sandbox. As I recall the in show explanation was the explosion of a large nuclear wast facility, and they said something about experiencing incredible G-forces as it left orbit. Would like to see you make a vid on the subject.
My contribution is to remember Fireball XL-5. Anyone remember? Episode 39 is about aliens using a moon magnet. One of my favourite episodes. 1962 I think - I’m really old.
@@markroach3315 I 'member. I 'member the before times. ;-) I didn't see the original run of Fireball XL5 but I did watch the 70's repeats. Along with Thunderbirds (of course), Joe 90, Captain Scarlet and anything remotely Gerry Anderson related. I actually rewatched Space 1999 earlier this year.
How about simulating the _Seveneves_ scenario, where something (possibly aliens) breaks the moon up into seven pieces, which then start banging together and breaking up into more and more pieces, which then start to rain down on the Earth?
samapico But the pieces keep banging together, and gravitational slingshotting throws out bits into different orbits...some of which intersect the earth's surface...
Supervillain builds M-Drive device. Threatens to cancel moon's gravitational relationship with other objects for a brief instant. Demands a zillion bucks. Gets thrown in super jail.
At 11:49 where you are showing the smooth particle simulations - do the resultant shapes not look WAY too much like spiral and barred galaxies to be coincidence?
As I understand it, it is a coincidence. The arms of spiral galaxies aren't really much denser than the spaces between them, they're actually pressure waves in the interstellar medium which are illuminated by the bursts of star formation they trigger.
10:10 - "The other planets pulled the Moon off!?" "Sounds like you had a pretty special and intimate relationship with this Moon, and that losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one."
I used to play that game all the time in the background of work just trying to make cool stuff happen. The best thing I ever caused was pinballing a black hole against other black holes until it was moving many times the speed of light until the game crashed
Armageddon? Don’t you mean “The Core” or even Batman & Robin (terrible pun edition)? Armageddon is maybe a contender for worst space-rock vs. Earth movie but in the general category it doesn’t even rank.
Why couldn't they have spent the money on a Seven Eves movie instead, that book has a more probable scenario by far. Edit: it's on the way apparently, with Ron Howard as director.
Thanks Scott, I just subscribed. I flew Estes Rockets as an early teen, was a USAF Tactical Missile Technician on Sparrow, Sidewinder and Maverick and later supported Titan 2 ICBMs and greatly enjoy your channel.
I was going to say that! I mean, it's essentially like a remake of Breakaway, the pilot episode of Space: 1999. I know the movie is based upon a book by Jack McDevitt...
"The Moon Who Fell To Earth"... I was waiting for the word "barycentre" to pop up somewhere. In Larry Niven's novel "A World Out Of Time", they floated a ramjet in the atmosphere of Uranus >choke< and, using the planet's atmosphere as propellant, flew Uranus around the Solar System, repositioning planets and adjusting orbits. Which sounds like a mashup of grown-up mathematics and high-stakes billiards.
Just got the trailer as an ad a couple of minutes ago. First thought this was a video game that was mostly based around action like world of tanks or whatever, but for space lovers. And then it had live action footage in-between the surprisingly mediocre-looking CG elements. A what-if documentary maybe? And then it got all weird, seemingly mixing space programs, not knowing when it was taking place. And then it had the moon more or less the same size as the Earth and everything, and I was wondering how after all the discussions we had in our lovely corner of the internet - how could someone mess these basic things up so colossally? And then I saw the name Roland Emmerich.
I really love that throwaway explaination about why people need to stop nitpicking the "realism" of aliens. it's very much "bitch, you ain't never seen a goddamn alien, how the hell would you know?" and I love it.
I did an bielliptic transfer in kerbal many years ago, to get to the sun. Now so manny years later I finally know what that maneuver is called and why it worked. Thanks Scott!
I once read that each apollo landing temporarily doubled the atmosphere present on the moon. Would firing a rocket with propellant equal to one quarter the moon's mass not simply create an atmosphere on the moon? There must surely be a limit to the amount of Dv you apply to the moon before you're just pushing the air around.
It depends whether your propellant exits the nozzle at a speed that is greater than the moons escape velocity. Ideally, it would be much greater so as to lose the least amount of Δv to gravity.
@@jerry3790 Regardless of the way you accelerate molecules, they don't all have the same speed. Some of them will be slow enough to fall back o the Moon. If your average exhaust velocity is 40 km/s, it will only be a small amount (0.2% actually if I did my Maxwell-Boltzmann math right). But 0.2% of 10% of Moon mass is still an awful lot.
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The other issue, which you didn't mention, is that moving the Moon to any orbit approaching 1 year would cause it to leave Earth's Hill Sphere, it's volume of gravitational dominance, and the Sun would simply pull the moon away into its own orbit. At that point, pretty much anything is possible - the moon colliding with the Earth, getting flung outward towards Jupiter, falling into the Sun, etc.
My comment in the movie trailer was: "I imagine that after all those millions spent on the movie production, at least 1 from the hundred who worked in MoonFall took the time to read about Roche limit. Director: Roche what??"
Wow, nobody's comparing this movie to _Space: 1999,_ which is sorta the inverse of _Moonfall._ Although, I always wondered why, in _Space: 1999,_ the Moon didn't move _towards_ Earth, given that the exploding nuclear waste site was located on the FAR side.
If you think about it, the trailer for the movie is actually veeery simillar to one old great game called Majora's Mask. I mean, the trailer clearly suggests that a time loop is involved, and the moon is falling down.
Since Herschel said coming within 2 earth diameters would destroy the moon (and geostationary satellites are at 3) I found the whole destruction premises grossly understated
I can watch Scott talking about the "Mün" all day.
Prolly!
Yep, könnte den ganzen Tag zuhören. Scott rockt. Aber sonst kriegen die US-Amerikaner das nicht mal bei UBER hin mit dem Umlaut. Obwohl: Motörhead? Ach nee, das was anderes... ¯\(°_o)/¯
@@Forti42 Scott spricht bei weitem kein rein amerikanisches Englisch, es ist mehr sein schottischer Einfluss 👍
What on urth!
👌🏼
"The most unrealistic part of the trailer was the space shuttle flying in 2022" 😂
One wonders what brilliant minds are asked to do research for a movie.
@@MarijnRoorda
Research for a movie? Pfffff, who needs science in science fiction anyway...
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 Ain't the whole point of science fiction to be about something that is entirely plausible, but none the less impossible, at least under current technology and understanding? I mean at least that's my understanding of what differentiates between science fiction and science fantasy
@@Gogglesofkrome Yes, but unlike films like Back To The Future, this film messes a lot with gravity, which we probably know enough about to say it isn't plausible.
@asdrubale bisanzio I think they meant that it looks plausible, but nothing we know about would be able to explain it.
That doesn't mean it has to be impossible, it just means it doesn't necessarily have to be possible.
I always wondered what'd actually happen if continent-scale shiny metal letters spelling UNIVERSAL suddenly hurtled into low Earth orbit and came to a stop.
As depicted in the ident, Earth's cloud layer is instantly dissipated and all major cities spontaneously ignite from the tidal forces, in what looks like the beginning of an Extinction Level Event... seems plausible.
The game
I loved the shit outta this 😅
„The most unrealistic thing was having the Space Shuttle fly in 2022“. Hilarious! As always! Yes, Scott, tear those Hollywood script writers apart!
Gotta do something to get yourself more science consultancies. You don't put yourself out there you cant blame the world for not taking you up on the offer.
I think that we all too often forget that movies are in the end a recorded theatrical plays.
SLS flying in 2022 is even less realistic so ok
@@jraffxx ooof burn
@@jraffxx LOL
6:55 oh there is way more magnesium than that in the bulk of the moon; It is actually closer to 20%. Magnesium is just depleted in the crust because of the high density of the minerals it forms. Fortunately drilling to the mantle of the moon should be absolutely trivial compared to overall project. 😆
says the person who has just suggested to bombard Earth with meteors to make algae happy
I'd go with Cody on that noble quest!
So, astronauts trained as drillers or drillers trained as astronauts?
@@Anvilshock sounds like a movie.... :D :D :D
@@SSGTru Sounds like a much better movie than this Moonfall nonsense!
Wouldn’t the most „likely“ scenario be, that another moon sized object swings by the moon, taking some energy of the moon and thus make the moon fall close to earth?
This. It takes like 2 seconds for any writer to think. Seems only those that don't get to make films these days. :(
Yeah probably would take an extrasolar rouge planet or alternatively that low but nonzero chance of Mercury entering an Unstable resonance with Venus Earth and Jupiter which gradually extends its aphelion over subsequent orbits
Exactly. And it just happens that only the people who are paid big $$ to write a plausible SF story couldn't think about that.
But then how the heroes of the movie save the day?
@@Dragrath1 Yeah, that could be at least partially a good story. Make Scott's bi-elliptic transfer an actual "accidental resonance" from the planets (possibly from a disruption from an exoplanet passing by, thus why never before predicted/detected). Then make it a "good news, it self corrects... bad news we just have a Great Reset on earth!!!" situation. Everyone has 30-50 years to get ready, meanwhile tides etc stop. Things get worse... like a real sci-fi story, not trash, and in one post we have a better story than this film will ever be.
11:40 Scott: "I would love to be able to crash the planets together." Supervillain status confirmed!
He's got the hairstyle for it; now all he needs is the Nehru jacket and a long-haired cat.
Cue maniacal laugh...
Well of Souls and a personality change ... Scott is too respectful be be a supervillain
Picard: "How do you change the gravitational constant?"
Q: "I don't know. I just do it."
Geordie asked that, not Picard.
@@Anvilshock [Technically Speaking] Picard _thought_ that (but was wise enough to not ask it verbally); but since Geordie did it, Q took the oportunity to answer it FOR Picard [he can read minds, but does not care about the blind human].
@@Anvilshock Ah yes. It's been a (ahem) few years since I saw that episode...
@@adolfodef Nope, Picard wasn't even anywhere near when this conversation happened in Engineering. If anyone, it was Data who was there as well as Geordie. See v=5xdbPhnfFEI.
@@Anvilshock OMG. Battle of the Star Trek TNG nerds. Well done anvil. But Argamis importantly added the context, which regarding that quote was not insignificant.
I'm a gourmet chef and still can't get over the thought of eating a peptide cake...
That's no moon. That's a plot device to contain a map to the final act in the franchise!
You mean a McMuffin
The moon is DLC that hasn't been released yet.
@@Condor-uc2lw You mean MacGuffin?
Though you may be onto something, I'd much prefer a Egg McMuffin moon to a plot MacGuffin moon.
That is no moon. Rrrhh! It's a Trap!
@@SpecialEDy yeah it was a bit of a joke from the EFAP crew in regards to all the Mcguffins in the rise of skywalker someone accidentaly called them McMuffins
“Nothing a nuke can’t fix”
- Movie NASA
The smooth particle simulation at the very end is actually really cool, in that it makes more sense of bodies colliding in orientations other than head-on.
At one point I wanted to recreate the Thea impactor in Universe Sandbox to see how the moon could form from it, but the game’s simulator couldn’t do it properly. The Smooth Particle Hydrodynamics (Im calling it SPH) one easily shows how two colliding bodies could stir up enough material in orbit to form such a large moon.
I rewatched that part several times. The barred spiral shape at 11:48 was particularly interesting.
There's a detailed analysis on one of the SETI Seminar videos a few years ago. It is very interesting, and shows that the resulting debris cloud is more properly considered an extended atmosphere.
It's pretty amazing that the sim handles that case at all. Very impressive.
Not sure what SPH is and how it fits in with what you said before or after it. If you are requiring more evidence Luna formed from the same material as Terra, the oxygen isotopes are a match. Like isotopes can only come from the same place.
@@minirock000 watch the video first
Engine-rich exhaust had me laughing out loud.
I do every time he sais that.
Oooh, I get it now. I thought he had misspoken. That is hilarious, thanks.
When a Raptor exhaust turns green, you know it is running engine-rich...
@@sproctor1958 funny :d
7:10
This explanation makes me want to grab my copy of seveneves, and read the whole thing from cover to cover all over again.... Thanks Scott for the feasible explanation of a very interesting and crazy idea
I loved that book, very painful to read.
That is an amazing book!
As long as one skips the second part, the "reconstructed" world five thousand years later.
That part got me spectacularly angry (also, it showed the writer limits when it comes to the possibilities of genetics and the other "sciences of life"... Or his obsession for recreating racism no matter what, with extremely specious "biological reasons" ).
I loved the first two thirds of that book. The last act, ie. after the time skip, was entirely different, and really a bit silly. I think it'd've been better if it'd ended before that time skip.
I have that one on my to-read list, but forgot about it. Looks like I should really go for it soon
It would have been awesome to see the Moon during Earth's Hadean period, when it was only 3.8 Earth radii away, and Earth's day was only six hours long. Imagine the tides!
Lava tides?
@@szurketaltos2693 No, oceanic tides. Recent theories suggest that Earth was already a water world possibly as early as 4 billion years ago, or the end of the Hadean.
@@LEDewey_MD why would you say during the hadean if you meant the very end of it? Anyways, my very surface level understanding is there was liquid water oceans and substantial lava for most of the hadean.
Highly recommend the old TV series, "Earth Story", presented by Aubrey Manning. Pretty sure he covers this in the latter half of the series.
11:48 looks like a barred spiral galaxy
Sounds like a movie that you have to turn off your brain, but also requires you to think 😂
That's any Roland Emmerich movie that isn't ID4
This movie is like that Chinese movie where Earth takes a walk using gigantic thrusters.
@@Zeithri I thought this was the sequel 😂😂
Think about it, dont think about it...
But it doesn’t even try to be realistic, so I know the expectations.
And with these assumptions, the movie might be even good.
Scott Manley: If we just adjust the lunar orbit...
Louie Gohmert: I KNEW IT
Ok THAT was funny 😂🤣🤓
Vindication! :)
Is Scott feeling ok?
Always check in on your favourite TH-camr's when they start discussing bringing planetary bodies into collision.
He wants: "Two million dollars!" Oh, sorry, I mean- He wants: "Two million subscribers!" ???Don't know what I was thinking??? 🤪
He watched the VMA's. Can't blame him.
"Engine rich exhaust" almost slipped by me.
Hilarious! : D
After I heard that I had to see if anyone else mentioned it. :D
I knew somebody else had to notice
I knew it was going to be one of those films before the trailer even started
In this situation, I would simply play the Song of Time and repeat the 3 day cycle until I lifted all four curses
Beautiful
The funny thing is the Moon is slowly escaping Earths gravity well, by a tiny amount each year. But imagine if it was the other way around, so that we knew for sure that eventually, it would collide. Now that would be one hell of a reset. It would be sort of like "The Revenge of Theia."
7:50 I can see the next spiffing brit video title: "The laws of physics are perfectly balanced with no exploits"
Sounds like a great plan.
Oh no, the economy!
@@jman6970 Don't worry, we'll print some money. That should fix it.
Looking at the thumbnail, I thought it would be about "Seveneves"; still, extremely interesting - thanks!
Great novel.
I read Seveneves, which is a two-parts monumental epic, this movie is based on "Moonfall" by Jack McDevitt,
I love it when scott really breaks down things that were really not designed to be broken down
Like the Moon and its orbit?
When I first heard of Moonfall I thought they were turning Jack McDevitt's Moonfall book into a movie. I think that would have been a much better plot than "aliens moved the Moon!"
Oh, this is disappointing... I thought it WAS Jack's book... damn...
I was really hoping. I love McDevitt's work.
@@kencarlile1212 The Priscilla Hutchins series of books were fabulous. His “Moonfall” wasn’t even in the same class.
I always like watching the moon while driving during a sunset so going up and down the hills makes it seem like I'm taking off or free falling
I would smash the buy button on Universe Sandbox so fast with smooth particle fluid dynamics included. There's so much fun you could have with that.
When I saw the trailer it actually made me laugh, like at it, uncontrollably. I had NEVER laughed in a theater before that.
I legitimately started laughing at the shuttle after seeing “in 2022”, you’re not the only one.
Yet no one talks about the cars and other things being pulled in to the sky.
Thank you, sincerely, for taking the piss on this trailer. I was actually hoping you would and you did not disappoint.
Scott: Elbonia needs a space program. Of course, being Elbonia, the Minister in charge is actually a secret opponent. What are the worst choices of rocket types, fuels, engines, and spacecraft. for him to choose? He has the freedom to put different rocket engines in boosters than they were designed with, within plausible design constraints.
But Elbonia's only resource is extremely tasty mud...
First the guns, now the space program? Poor Elbonia.
P.S. Scott, if it helps you can set this scenario in the present or in any year you choose. And this has to be hardware that's actually flown, or nearly. N-1 engines are OK, nuclear steam rockets and the nuclear Orion aren't.
I recommend using South Africa, I live here, and we ain't got the best of governments. ;)
@@Skorpychan They're selling it to Gwyneth Paltrow as an anti-aging mud pack. She's marketing it to billionaires and making a gazillion dollars, and Elbonia gets 90% in royalties.
Alternate title: "Scott Manley Gets in Touch With His Inner Ming the Merciless".
Scott Manley is bored.
Could you come give a lecture at McGill University? I'll help organise it with a student team if you want!!! We love you here
I'm not sure this is the best way to contact Mr. Manley.
Your request might actually reach him if you use email.
'Aliens moved the Moon', reminds me of the Fritz Lieber novel 'The Wander'. Now that would make a good movie !
This makes me think about the old tv show Space 1999, except there the moon was blown away from earth, never to return. I wonder how that event could be modeled in the sandbox. As I recall the in show explanation was the explosion of a large nuclear wast facility, and they said something about experiencing incredible G-forces as it left orbit. Would like to see you make a vid on the subject.
I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up the "Space 1999" in these comments.
My contribution is to remember Fireball XL-5. Anyone remember? Episode 39 is about aliens using a moon magnet. One of my favourite episodes. 1962 I think - I’m really old.
@@markroach3315 I 'member. I 'member the before times. ;-)
I didn't see the original run of Fireball XL5 but I did watch the 70's repeats. Along with Thunderbirds (of course), Joe 90, Captain Scarlet and anything remotely Gerry Anderson related. I actually rewatched Space 1999 earlier this year.
I stopped playing this game because the existential crisis it caused cannot be undone with any amount of therapy. Thanks for this Scott XD
How about simulating the _Seveneves_ scenario, where something (possibly aliens) breaks the moon up into seven pieces, which then start banging together and breaking up into more and more pieces, which then start to rain down on the Earth?
What an amazing book. I felt a bit emotional at the end. It was all too epic.
samapico
But the pieces keep banging together, and gravitational slingshotting throws out bits into different orbits...some of which intersect the earth's surface...
@@neilwilson5785 My favourite part, all the little bots trying to keep the comet together while its being used as reaction mass.
came here to say that as well :)
This whole lesson is way better than the movie will ever be!
If you think it’s something that can be stopped, just try to stop it!
DAWN OF THE FIRST DAY
72 Hours Remain
Supervillain builds M-Drive device.
Threatens to cancel moon's gravitational relationship with other objects for a brief instant.
Demands a zillion bucks.
Gets thrown in super jail.
The Kerbal drifting by at the end reminds me of the duck that’s at the end of every one of Kurzgesagt’s videos.
Remember in Tropic Thunder, Ben Stiller's character starred in a movie where the Earth stopped rotating? Moonfall could be the sequel to that.
At 11:49 where you are showing the smooth particle simulations - do the resultant shapes not look WAY too much like spiral and barred galaxies to be coincidence?
Because physics is the same
@@O5MO Gravity is relevant in galaxies, but it doesn't fully explain their behaviour by itself. You need dark matter for that.
You need dark matter only for gravity it provides. It´s just saying there’s some gravity without known source.
As I understand it, it is a coincidence. The arms of spiral galaxies aren't really much denser than the spaces between them, they're actually pressure waves in the interstellar medium which are illuminated by the bursts of star formation they trigger.
7:08 "Engine-rich exhaust" took me a second, but it gave me a real good laugh
It takes zero delta-v if you use Majora’s Mask
10:10 - "The other planets pulled the Moon off!?"
"Sounds like you had a pretty special and intimate relationship with this Moon, and that losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one."
It would be interesting to see a similar review of Neal Stephenson's 'Seveneves' novel, involving the destruction of the moon and subsequent fallout.
When the government issues suicide pills, you know things are bad.
I used to play that game all the time in the background of work just trying to make cool stuff happen. The best thing I ever caused was pinballing a black hole against other black holes until it was moving many times the speed of light until the game crashed
Lmao nice
I love these simple game videos
Gray Still Plays is my fave channel for Universe Sandbox shenanigans
Finally a movie which may take the “Worst Movie Ever” award away from Armageddon.
Armageddon? Don’t you mean “The Core” or even Batman & Robin (terrible pun edition)?
Armageddon is maybe a contender for worst space-rock vs. Earth movie but in the general category it doesn’t even rank.
You put way more thought into this than the people making this movie ever will. Thanks for the what if
Well, that was comforting! Such fun in fantasy land. Nobody does this better, or makes more intelligible explanations, than Scott Manley.
Why couldn't they have spent the money on a Seven Eves movie instead, that book has a more probable scenario by far.
Edit: it's on the way apparently, with Ron Howard as director.
Thanks Scott, I just subscribed. I flew Estes Rockets as an early teen, was a USAF Tactical Missile Technician on Sparrow, Sidewinder and Maverick and later supported Titan 2 ICBMs and greatly enjoy your channel.
"Hullo its scott maley here" thats what i am here to listen
This would never have happened when John Koenig was in charge of the moon. :)
Missed opportunity for *Space: 1999* references.
I was going to say that! I mean, it's essentially like a remake of Breakaway, the pilot episode of Space: 1999. I know the movie is based upon a book by Jack McDevitt...
"The Moon Who Fell To Earth"...
I was waiting for the word "barycentre" to pop up somewhere.
In Larry Niven's novel "A World Out Of Time", they floated a ramjet in the atmosphere of Uranus >choke< and, using the planet's atmosphere as propellant, flew Uranus around the Solar System, repositioning planets and adjusting orbits. Which sounds like a mashup of grown-up mathematics and high-stakes billiards.
Why not just use a nuclear (or solar) powered RAILGUN on the moon to toss huge chunks of the Moon in the proper direction for it to deorbit????
Just got the trailer as an ad a couple of minutes ago. First thought this was a video game that was mostly based around action like world of tanks or whatever, but for space lovers. And then it had live action footage in-between the surprisingly mediocre-looking CG elements. A what-if documentary maybe? And then it got all weird, seemingly mixing space programs, not knowing when it was taking place. And then it had the moon more or less the same size as the Earth and everything, and I was wondering how after all the discussions we had in our lovely corner of the internet - how could someone mess these basic things up so colossally? And then I saw the name Roland Emmerich.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask did it first.
I really love that throwaway explaination about why people need to stop nitpicking the "realism" of aliens. it's very much
"bitch, you ain't never seen a goddamn alien, how the hell would you know?"
and I love it.
The Moon, falling back! That wouldn’t be great, however after the last year, probably last of our worries ahaha
I did an bielliptic transfer in kerbal many years ago, to get to the sun. Now so manny years later I finally know what that maneuver is called and why it worked. Thanks Scott!
I get the notion this was recorded after a Blue Moon or two. Very amusing tipsy sounding space hooliganism.
I approve.
I once read that each apollo landing temporarily doubled the atmosphere present on the moon. Would firing a rocket with propellant equal to one quarter the moon's mass not simply create an atmosphere on the moon? There must surely be a limit to the amount of Dv you apply to the moon before you're just pushing the air around.
It depends whether your propellant exits the nozzle at a speed that is greater than the moons escape velocity. Ideally, it would be much greater so as to lose the least amount of Δv to gravity.
@@jerry3790 Regardless of the way you accelerate molecules, they don't all have the same speed. Some of them will be slow enough to fall back o the Moon. If your average exhaust velocity is 40 km/s, it will only be a small amount (0.2% actually if I did my Maxwell-Boltzmann math right). But 0.2% of 10% of Moon mass is still an awful lot.
That was crazy Scott. Great job putting it together.
You just need to use your ocarina to go 3 days into the past, done
Definitely waiting for you follow up video. You don't need ∆v when you have ∆mass.
Also that Vandenberg launch was VFX budget well spent.
Scott Manley: "Why send humans to the moon, when we can just send the moon to earth?"
Now that's what I call thinking outside the box.
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11:09 - 11:55 that last simulation is awesome!
So a close fly by of the moon is the embodiment of "you should see the other guy"
Sisters Earth and Moon settings like an old score ………😭 Please don’t fight……but,
I’d have the popcorn ready for the movie 🍿😉
Like the intro to Thundar the Barbarian cartoon from the 1980’s… loved that intro!
As a non-native speaker who is mostly used to hearing different american accents or sometimes some english ones I enjoy the way Scott say Moon/Mun.
[The moon enters low Earth orbit, causing earthquakes, tidal waves, and worldwide destruction.]
The Moon: "SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!"
Scott is the LockPickingLawyer of Sci-fi movies
The other issue, which you didn't mention, is that moving the Moon to any orbit approaching 1 year would cause it to leave Earth's Hill Sphere, it's volume of gravitational dominance, and the Sun would simply pull the moon away into its own orbit. At that point, pretty much anything is possible - the moon colliding with the Earth, getting flung outward towards Jupiter, falling into the Sun, etc.
Oddly fascinating; and now I don't even have to watch Mooonfall:D
My comment in the movie trailer was:
"I imagine that after all those millions spent on the movie production, at least 1 from the hundred who worked in MoonFall took the time to read about Roche limit.
Director: Roche what??"
Wow, nobody's comparing this movie to _Space: 1999,_ which is sorta the inverse of _Moonfall._
Although, I always wondered why, in _Space: 1999,_ the Moon didn't move _towards_ Earth, given that the exploding nuclear waste site was located on the FAR side.
yes - that simulation would be way more interesting to see than the film. look forward to an eventual update. this might be one of your best peices.
2:35 That'll be one small skim for moon, one giant screech for mankind!
If you think about it, the trailer for the movie is actually veeery simillar to one old great game called Majora's Mask. I mean, the trailer clearly suggests that a time loop is involved, and the moon is falling down.
Seriously, I absolutely love your new outro.
Thank you for saying “aluminium” like a civilized person.
Heyyyy I was watching that trailer and wondering "when will Scott bust this terrible idea"
And here we are!
Even as a kid watching Space 1999 I was aware I had to ignore the laws of physics.
Wow that simulation at the end was awesome.
This is honesty my favourite video of yours
Slatibartfast: "What?!? Crash the moon into the Earth? I'd sooner get the Planetmaker's Union and the mice drag you into court!..."
Plot twist when watching the movie. It's actually Majora's Mask that makes the moon fall and it's a stealth Zelda movie.
As long as there's a line about "a terrible fate" in this movie, I'll be happy.
Great video Scott!
When that trailer showed up this weekend I facepalmed my forehead so hard that it left a permanent mark.
Movie looks fun! Can't wait.
Since Herschel said coming within 2 earth diameters would destroy the moon (and geostationary satellites are at 3) I found the whole destruction premises grossly understated
To be honest, "engine-rich exhaust" gives off the same vibe as "rapid unplanned disassembly"