Okay but… The LILA IS MANON Theory kinda makes sense?

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  • @chickenuggies333
    @chickenuggies333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +315

    There is almost no way its possible, its just to far fetched ... but then again when it comes to this show I honestly don't know what to expect anymore

    • @crystalmuffyn
      @crystalmuffyn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Fr adrien being a sentimonster sounded far fetched but here we are… 💀

    • @BlackenedSunsets
      @BlackenedSunsets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@crystalmuffyn well that had a lot of evidence, this is 6 things.

    • @crystalmuffyn
      @crystalmuffyn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@BlackenedSunsets Not in the beginning

    • @lapoguidelli7677
      @lapoguidelli7677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I had my doubts, about the theory, but know im getting very convinced, about It.🤔🧐
      And It scares me😱

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lapoguidelli7677 fr

  • @lapoguidelli7677
    @lapoguidelli7677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    That's a ridiculous detail but in Volpina, many times where Lila opened her mouth, i kept giving a "special attention" on her front teeth.
    It gave me a bit of suspect that she may have upper buck teeth, and Manon has upper bucked teeth.
    Laugh all you want but it kinda is a clue that Cerise is indeed Manon.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Its impossible for this to be True
      They skin tone is different
      Manon skin is darker

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just a Theory
      Crazy theory

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      could be true ngl

    • @IqraElmi-v7r
      @IqraElmi-v7r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I dont disagree or agree 😅
      Both sidse have good points
      Im lost!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😮

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@IqraElmi-v7r same but im more inside the theory side could be possible since there are people who are still anti sentis who still dosent believe adrian is a senti
      come on now its time to accept that

  • @TheGreenThunder1607
    @TheGreenThunder1607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Stoooop, if you guys make this theory popular enough, they probably will make it canon.. remember Chat Blanc and the Senti stuff.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      but thats the important thing of miraculous ladybug
      making theorys😂

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It would be better if the creators didn't This canon.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 yeah fr

    • @klsit3528
      @klsit3528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Senti thing seems as if it was always canon from the start.

    • @TheGreenThunder1607
      @TheGreenThunder1607 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@klsit3528 doubt it.. Chat blanc would've destroyed his own Amok when he blew up the whole world

  • @MS-19
    @MS-19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    Lila/Cerise/Iris has three mothers, while Manon is Nadja Chamack's daughter... Of course, there may be more than just the three mothers we've been shown! There's an old saying: all things are possible until they're not. Let's see if the creators make it possible!

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It would be better if the creators didn't make this canon

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They skin and behavior are different
      Also They are from different countries. Lila is 🇮🇹 and Manon is 🇨🇵

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      actually lila does have hundred names
      she probebly comes up with them or idk
      if she has 3 moms then there is a possibility that she has more
      i dont think i can trust lila
      and also i will be calling her lila until her real name comes
      i mean who knows if cerise is her real name🤔🤔🤔

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@catkitty_490She propably have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying
      Cerise is one of her Fake identities propably

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t understand they never called her Iris

  • @auditect950
    @auditect950 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    If Lila is from the future, that does explain why she knew Gabriel is Hawk Moth/Monarch.

    • @adrixnette
      @adrixnette  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      not necessarily because there a good amount of time where she didn’t know he was hawkmoth!

    • @auditect950
      @auditect950 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@adrixnette Hm, true.

    • @eddog6666
      @eddog6666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@adrixnette in season five when Gabriel fired Lila she said this line:
      "I will have my revenge Monarch. she says that standing outside the Ageste manor. this means she could have found out anywhere from hero's day to that line. i think Lila knows in season 3

    • @karolineskeif
      @karolineskeif หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah your richt

  • @JosephWB16
    @JosephWB16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    People also say that the bracelets that Lila wears are also her 3 identity’s

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Propably

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      idk about that one tho

    • @JosephWB16
      @JosephWB16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 wdym

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JosephWB16 it doesn't make sense

    • @JosephWB16
      @JosephWB16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@catkitty_490 the colors match up with the eye color and the outfit

  • @CraftingMenace
    @CraftingMenace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The flower thing is somewhat convincing I'll admit. And honestly, its less stupid than Gabriels descent into madness throughout one season so, I won't be surprised.

  • @Mxrizza
    @Mxrizza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    I hate this theory with a passion and if it’s canon I will be devastated

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not Possible
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      Also Lila is 🇮🇹. (Italian ) Manon is 🇨🇵. (French)

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Luckily its just theory

    • @pinkyinroblox7256
      @pinkyinroblox7256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ​@@polishalastor142actually Lila being Italian proves nothing because bro she has been lying abt her whole identity and life why do u still think she actually is Italian the master Manipulative liar in the show it would be pretty possible that she lied abt being Italian

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@pinkyinroblox7256 thats what im saying lila is a big liar so her being italian dosent prove any point who knows if we can ever trust lila with her being the best liar ever

    • @pinkyinroblox7256
      @pinkyinroblox7256 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@catkitty_490 fr even this manon theory proves more than Lila being Italian

  • @kpc9602
    @kpc9602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    There’s another theory about the bracelets that Lila/Cerise/Iris is wearing, colors that can represent her disguises; contact lenses, wigs and outfits

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      iris
      i never thought lilas name would also be iris😂😂😂

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she has a hundred other names

    • @Rainy_XD
      @Rainy_XD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@catkitty_490 same

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She have Mythomania also know as Pathological lying
      Propably

  • @__.-.-
    @__.-.- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    People are missinh yhr main piece of canonical evidence which is that nadia is on lilas target board thing and we havent saw them interact whereas everyone else on there we have

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’ll admit that is a little weird

    • @pumbhax
      @pumbhax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      there are only two ways to explain this if you don't believe in the theory:
      1. Nadia is a news lady and she will spread information, so it could be part of her plan to bring Ladybug and Cat Noir bad publicity
      2. It's just cameo
      Knowing miraculous, Lila being Manon is probably more likely

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pumbhax yeah thats true💖

  • @CupCakeBug
    @CupCakeBug 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    After Adrien was found out to actually be a sentimonster I believe any theory can potentially be true 😂😂💞
    Lovely video!

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not possible
      They skin tone is different
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@polishalastor142 even if their skin tone is different
      lila is smart and she could get away with anything
      skin tone would change if she wore stupid foundation to cover her darker skin
      i know i may sound stupid but lila being lila might do that
      and your wrong skin tone will change during big times
      its part of growing up
      and besides manon is very young so i would expect that from anyone also lila

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      and yeah i believe every single theory after the sentimonster incident😂😂
      like come on who knew adrian could be a sentimonster after he got cataclysmed in some day back in season 1 or 2 or 3
      i dont rememember that episode but i do know that if a sentimonster gets cataclysmed
      it would be out of control and i do remember cat noir getting cataclysmed by an evil ladybug

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @fallskitty oh i didnt know that and yea adrian is a sentimonster🤔

    • @girlleavemealone--
      @girlleavemealone-- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 skin color can change due to lack of light, poor diet etc

  • @katelynallison6036
    @katelynallison6036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I have a theory that Lilla is from the alternate reality where Shadybug and Claw Noir are from. Lilla could be working for the Supreme or maybe shes working against him. Maybe she wants to make a wish but she can't do it in her world so she went to Cat Noir's and Ladybugs world so she can hide there and get the butterfly Miraculous. Thats why she pretends to be different people and has 3 moms. Maybe the Supreme found out what she was doing this world explain the strange light we see at the end of season 5. The light is the Supreme or it could be the good sahdybug and Claw Noir coming to try and stop her. But its most likely the Supreme. This is just a theory but it does make a lot of sense.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Possible

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      possible but ngl i dont support that but it would be intresting to see them again

    • @Kenna-bs1l
      @Kenna-bs1l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      THIS IS WHY I DONT LIKE TIME TRAVEL THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY POSSIBITIES

    • @katelynallison6036
      @katelynallison6036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @catkitty3200 It's just a theory but it makes more since then her being Marinettes sister to me anyway.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@katelynallison6036 sense
      Its False

  • @StillSaber
    @StillSaber 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    If Lila WERE Manon from the Future, don't you think that Bunnix would know about it and stop it just like she tried to during the very 1st episode of season 5? Oh how about this, if Lila were Manon from the Future, don't you think that she would gone for the Butterfly Miraculous a lot SOONER then waiting in till the end of season 5 to get it? Because something tells me that Lila isn't the type of person to 'FOLLOW' the rules when it comes to Time Travel because we knew that she would become the next Hawkmoth.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Remember they have different skin tone
      Manon skin is darker
      Also They behavior is different

    • @waywardmagician
      @waywardmagician 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not unless Lila killed Bunnix💀

    • @StillSaber
      @StillSaber 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@waywardmagician Um, doubt it, because Alix maybe a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them, COME ON , she's Bunnix, the Hero of Time, the Hero of Last Resort, so you don't think that she would have seen her own death if Lila killed her?,

    • @waywardmagician
      @waywardmagician 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@StillSaber good point

    • @waywardmagician
      @waywardmagician 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@StillSaber but don't forget that Lila is probably just as smart, if not more. Also, death is inevetable and probably shouldn't be messed with.

  • @MonaEl-Sehrawi
    @MonaEl-Sehrawi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    her shirt in the finale was purple like manuns

  • @jaysonguevarra1991
    @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I just had this head-canon. What if the whole Miraculous show is just Adrien and Marinette telling their kids or grandkids about how they met and fell in love with each other.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that would be terrible
      dont think about it

    • @jaysonguevarra1991
      @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@catkitty_490 Why would that be terrible

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@jaysonguevarra1991 because it will ruin everything
      😭😭😭
      as a huge miraculous ladybug fan that is the worst thing possible😂

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting
      Story how they meet

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 noooooooooo😭😭😭😭😭
      that would be horrible
      and it would never happen because marinette would have forget about that she was ladybug if she revealed he identity idk only time will tell
      so its best if we all not think about that
      completely ruins the whole show

  • @ErenD.Yeager-y8y
    @ErenD.Yeager-y8y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lila has probably a singular power we don't know yet which allows her to change her body form and Time travel.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She is a older than she looks
      19-21
      I Heard
      Definitely she is from Future

    • @ErenD.Yeager-y8y
      @ErenD.Yeager-y8y 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@polishalastor142 Or maybe they are just kind of siblings 🤔 I don't really know and I'm excited for the arriving sixth season 😄

    • @Ayetri_editz77
      @Ayetri_editz77 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ErenD.Yeager-y8y or maybe Lila is Manon but from the future and from Shadybug and Clawnoir universe?

  • @jaysonguevarra1991
    @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I predict that in season six of Miraculous (the next season) that Adrien and Marinette would find out each other’s identities. But unlike in Cat Blanc, Oblivio, and Ephemeral it’s permanent. Now Adrien is the first of them to find out the other’s identity. So basically Adrien saw Ladybug transform back into Marinette or something like that. He tells Luka that he found out that Marinette is Ladybug. Luka then says to Adrien to tell Marinette that he knows that she’s Ladybug. Adrien tries to tell Ladybug that he knows that she is Marinette but fails. Plagg asks why he didn’t tell her that he knows that she’s Marinette. Adrien then responds saying that it wasn’t the right time. Now for how Marinette would find out. She would find out the exact same way Adrien found out her identity. After finding out that Adrien is Cat Noir she tells Alya. Alya says to Marinette to tell Adrien that she knows that he’s Cat Noir. Marinette tries to tell Cat Noir that she knows that he’s Adrien but fails. Just like how Adrien did when he tried to Ladybug that he knows that she’s Marinette. She tells Alya that she couldn’t tell him that she knew that he is Adrien.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Marinette know Luka know she is Ladybug
      In season 5 luka call Ladybug Marinette

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She wouldn’t tell Alya because she doesn’t want someone to know both identities

    • @jaysonguevarra1991
      @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Hotgirlenergy She could tell Luka if she finds out next season. She knows that Luka knows her and Cat Noir’s secret identity as of the episode Migration.

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jaysonguevarra1991 that’s more likely

    • @jaysonguevarra1991
      @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HotgirlenergyAlso Luka won’t tell Marinette that Adrien knows she’s Ladybug. That’s something Adrien should tell Marinette himself.

  • @Savage_cat228
    @Savage_cat228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    After knowing Adrian is a sentimonster any thing can be true and I am not ready for Adrian being a senti and now this I need some time to heal

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adrien

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ik how you feel i didnt too at first want him to be a senti but whats done is done

    • @pumbhax
      @pumbhax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@catkitty_490 It makes him seem so...fragile. His life depends on Felix and a mere ring.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pumbhax fr😭😭😭
      but we have to get used to it ❤️
      although i dont want to....

    • @raghailleach
      @raghailleach 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 yeah but still. I honestly don't think that if Felix would use his powers to hurt Adrien intentionally. Which is acc one of my season 6 theories. I think Felix will probably lash out at Adrien for something, idk what, and accidentally use the miraculous against him idk it sounded better in my head
      🥲

  • @faithnorthrup8626
    @faithnorthrup8626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Also, Lila is a very good manipulator. She could’ve easily pretended not to know some of the stuff.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ikr could potentially become true

  • @alohachipsxo
    @alohachipsxo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The flower thing is really like making me tell myself that this might be true, but then also I'm not really sure but it's a good theory!

  • @LitaliCat
    @LitaliCat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not sure if i believe this theory yet but i saw a person that said that manon was introduced in the first episode of season 1 and lila the last so it could be a parallel

  • @larruschmelin
    @larruschmelin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Perhaps it is Manon from the future but from a parallel universe ….

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or Lila is from Pallalel Universe

  • @RaiSeRiGGy_
    @RaiSeRiGGy_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    girl! WE 👏 NEED 👏 MORE 👏 OF 👏 YOUR 👏THEORIES👏👏👏

  • @shootingstarssel4182
    @shootingstarssel4182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dont forget time taggers powers are time travel, that couldve been used to send Manon back in time especially knowing what happened to the rabbit miraculous when the older versions of Ladybug, Chat Noir, and Bunnix were fighting him and by the time Manon was in the past its too late as her actions does plan a big role with what happens in the story. Im 50/50 on this theory but i can understand why people would theorize it.

    • @lapoguidelli7677
      @lapoguidelli7677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have another theory, about how Cerise traveled back in time
      In "Multiplication" Mr.Kubdel, under permission by LadyBug, told to the all Class that Alix 🛼 was entrusted with the Time Miraculous🐰, including Lila.
      Maybe now that she's in possesion of the Butterfly Miraculous, maybe She Will target Alix to get the hands on her Watch, I Fear😰

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lapoguidelli7677 but it doesn’t make sense, because how would she be going in the past as Minon if Mannone existed a long time ago and Lila was introduced all lot longer before this

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this could be true great theory

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lapoguidelli7677 this cant make sense because lila is in the same world as mannon so its very unlikely that she would go as mannon to the future to get the butterfly miraculous

  • @victoriaschwendiman911
    @victoriaschwendiman911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In a episode I can't remember which one but Lila is taking Sabine's art class and Sabine says " you learn quick it's like you've been in this class your whole life " or something like that but mano was taking that class with her mom 😮😮😮

  • @Doomzdeh
    @Doomzdeh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This theory implies that Miraculous’s Writing Team plans literally anything ahead or crafts complex plots, which simply isn’t true. Didn’t we all give up hope after the travesty that was called the Season 5 Finale?

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah but did we see manon at all in season 5 they didnt give her enough screen time something's fishy👀

    • @pumbhax
      @pumbhax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL...yes. The finale was a disaster. Unsatisfying. I don't care about the drama that would kick off the second arc. The iconic first arc should have had a good ending. And why did Adrien not get to confront his own father?

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pumbhax cause he cant with all the senti stuff his father still controls him remember❤️

    • @pumbhax
      @pumbhax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 this is exactly why we hate him being a senti

  • @Kenna-bs1l
    @Kenna-bs1l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    1. how would she have gotten into the past
    2. why would she be so mean to marinette if she was her babysitter before
    3. why wouldn't she help her past self every chance she got
    4. wouldn't she have to be in two places in once
    5. did she get 2 butterfly miraculouses?
    i kinda get it to prove or disprove a theory you have to think of things that support the theory and the things that make it fall.
    (edit - I also think its so kind of inconistent because if time tagger brought her to the past then she would of had to be contolling him WITH THE BUTTERFLY MIRACULOUS so in season 5 when she got hawk moth's or shadow moths or whatever his prefered name is she would have gotten 2 buttterfly miraculouses but if she only has one then how did she get into the past from time tagger time travel makes everything like 10 times harder to approve or disprove when it comes to theories)
    (edit part 2 - i think the only way for this theory to work all the factors worked well and logically in a time line i am kinda crazy so i prob over looked something but i think 1. marriettes reliationship to manon isn't strong enough for her to be mad at her when she isn't her babysitter anymore something else is that she was able to be ladybug + babysit manon all at the same time all i thinkmanon will be mad at is her mom 2. this theory involes time travel and considering in the show 5 and lila is like 14 i guess the time inbetween would make sense but paradoxes are weird and hard are not fun to think about sometimes so yeah idk at this point i dont really think she is but if she ends up being lila oh well i was wrong🤷‍♀)

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1 propably by Time Tagger
      After she Akumatize Teenage Chris
      2 Marinette Couldn't take care of her because her boyfriend (Adrien)

    • @gustavodomingosramos7947
      @gustavodomingosramos7947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      5 is simple: She created an "paradox" by travelling through time. So, our Lila is just Manon that travelled because of Time Tagger, and Time Tagger was created by Crysalis.

    • @maryamfatima3864
      @maryamfatima3864 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      who is crysalis and if liala is the one who was hawkmoth and sent chris into the past and also came with him then how does chirs was even de-acumatized and who will be the hawkmoth if she came to the timeline where marinette is a teenager @@gustavodomingosramos7947

    • @EmeliaODell
      @EmeliaODell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Something may have happened in the future to make mannon hate marinette

    • @Kenna-bs1l
      @Kenna-bs1l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@polishalastor142 i kinda get where your coming its weird with time travel because literaly anything could happen ! i feel like time tagger is the most posible idea for it though!!

  • @jaysonguevarra1991
    @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Here’s a head-canon I just came up with awhile ago. Almost all of the Ladybug and Black Cat holders are soulmates and end up with each other. Scarlet Fate and Dark Grimalkin are the only ones that Tikki remembers because it wasn’t that long ago for her. It’s also why in the origins episode Master Fu said that they are made for each other.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make sense
      So that's propably What happened to the Queen of Amazons ,Hippolyta
      And others past ladybugs

    • @Alisonsgachaverse
      @Alisonsgachaverse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So Alya and Zoe are soulmates?

    • @jaysonguevarra1991
      @jaysonguevarra1991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AlisonsgachaverseIt kinda depends. Maybe in the universe where they are Scarabella and Kitty Noir.

    • @ishashifar
      @ishashifar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maybe, maybe not soulmates doesn't always neccesarily mean in the romantic sense and with billions of universes I think there's a possibility that not every ladybug and black cat fell in love just the majority did but they could still be incredibly close

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      personally i don't like that Alya and Zoe could be soulmates but
      if cat noir and ladybug are soulmates this could be true

  • @faithnorthrup8626
    @faithnorthrup8626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well, I’m just saying, even if you in the future, there is a possibility that she would know some of the stuff. That she let her know it was because she was very young, and she knew Adrian and Marinette is teenagers.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah could be possible however i dont want it to be possible

    • @jworm_Ethlizbay
      @jworm_Ethlizbay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean her whole personality is fake, so when she said "You're in love with Adrien," you could tell that she knew as well as everyone else, but maybe she's known since the start,
      I'm just remembering Manon saying "Is he your boyfriend?" and she and Chris are friends, sooooo, he can tell her about the presents that Marinette keeps in her trunk :)

  • @seaseasweets5793
    @seaseasweets5793 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don’t know if this adds to evidence but as we know Lila hated Gabriel and what if she was trying to to get ladybug and cat noir’s miraculous to get revenge on Gabriel as the new hock moth and Chris was there to defeat him by going back to less experienced ladybug and cat noir to use the miraculous as a wish to torture Gabriel or make a deal with tomoe and go against her or even bring grabriel back and trick him

  • @klsit3528
    @klsit3528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe she is Manon, but Manon from Shadybug and Claw Noir’s universe. Which would explain why she doesn’t know all of the future info!!

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Make sense 🤔
      Or Lila is Lila/Cerise from Shadybug and Clawnoir world

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She knows everything from The Future

    • @Ayetri_editz77
      @Ayetri_editz77 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FINALLY NOW I CAN MAKE EVERYTHING MAKE SENSE TYSM

  • @wilfred1978
    @wilfred1978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wait but manon loves marinette and lila hates her

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it dosent seem that manon loves marinette

  • @soniasanchez8204
    @soniasanchez8204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quick theory at the end of the last episode the blue sparks are ether gimmi or Chris ( time breaker) maybe she left her miraculous with him I don’t know

  • @maverickhanecak1682
    @maverickhanecak1682 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    THERE’S NO FREAKING WAY CERISE IS MANON FROM THE FUTURE!!! NO! WAY!

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah
      Luckily its Not possible
      Because they skin is different
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      Also they behavior is different

    • @Idontreallyknow2345
      @Idontreallyknow2345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@polishalastor142I was born white rn I'm kind of beige/light brown

    • @maverickhanecak1682
      @maverickhanecak1682 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Okay, @@polishalastor142

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Idontreallyknow2345 exactly some things would make sense

    • @Idontreallyknow2345
      @Idontreallyknow2345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 I don't really know maybe it just depends on your race I'm Hindu so exposure to sun will darken my skin colour

  • @LegitMay
    @LegitMay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If Lila is Manon from the future, then why did she became evil? Why does she hate Marinette so much? Why is she targeting Marinette of all people, the girl who babysat her when she was a child.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mayby because she hates her sooooo much idk why😂😂
      this theory is crazy

    • @PRISMSHOWERS_P
      @PRISMSHOWERS_P 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lilia did say Adrien would be hers; so maybe using Chris's love for her own selfish gain to acquire Adrien. Don't get upset but what if Adrien or Cat Noir IS meant for someone else?

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PRISMSHOWERS_P true

  • @Thecharacterobsessiongirl
    @Thecharacterobsessiongirl 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a theory what if Lila or cerise is future manon and she went back to the past to do something we don’t know yet or maybe it has something to do with the butterfly miraculous and the reason she has different names is to hide the fact that she is manon from the future I don’t rlly know this is just a thought or theory but again with miraculous you can really honestly never know ❤

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Propably Not Manon
      Manon Had Darker skin
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      Also Manon likes Marinette, when Lila /Cerise hates her

    • @Thecharacterobsessiongirl
      @Thecharacterobsessiongirl 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@polishalastor142 yeah that’s true but again this is just a theory

  • @juniorrabothata1505
    @juniorrabothata1505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its that time guy from the future

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chris,Nino younger brother
      Time Tagger

  • @faithnorthrup8626
    @faithnorthrup8626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, Thomas struck said nothing is a coincidence miraculous ladybug.

  • @KeefeisAwesome
    @KeefeisAwesome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe she like lost top of her memory because she tried to like attack The bunny miraculous holder or something?

  • @mialightning6279
    @mialightning6279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can actually see this happening

  • @speeddemon5339
    @speeddemon5339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The miraculous fandom while they are waiting for another season:
    In a seriousness though, with the the fact that Mamon has overalls that just so happens to have flowers corresponding with Lila’s alter egos is nuts.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manon

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its possible to be true

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      In most cases
      Also They behavior is different
      Manon likes Marinette
      Lila doesn't like her

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 skin tone could change manon is young and lila is a teenager theese skin tone differences happen during growing up
      and also we dont know that mannon actually loves marinette she didnt give out the love vibes for her tho mayby but who KNOWS . if we knew about this sooner we would have paid a little attention to manon but no we didnt do that
      and this theory could possibly be true and mayby mannon got mad at mari for something idk

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 behaviour could also change mannon and lila look super alike ngl and lila did say she"ll ruin maris life so who knows

  • @wkwkwk12
    @wkwkwk12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also crysalis suit design has purple iris, lila, cerises just like the flower that Manon have

  • @eeveefennecfox
    @eeveefennecfox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't know much about manon since I'm newer to the show,so I've only seen her in 2 or 3 episodes maybe 4 at most,and I've seen lila probably the same,2 or 3 times maybe 4,and I hate her 99% of the time she's on screen XD and well I have a hard time beliving theories cause most theories don't make sense (it's just how my brain works ^^; ) they do have the same hair color,but they don't have the same eye color so that should throw that theory out the window right? well maybe not,eye colored contacts do exist and it's possible that could also be a thing in the show,so even though I don't understand theories much or very well,it's always up in the air with me,so 50% it could be right and 50% it could be wrong and time travel does exist in the show,so it's not a total loss for a theory that's the easiest way for me to understand
    I'M NEWER TO THE SHOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE,DON'T GIVE ME ANY SPOILERS,DON'T GIVE ME THAT CRAP THAT I'M WRONG AND OTHER SHIT,I'M A NEWER FAN,I'M ALLOWED TO ASSUME MY OWN THOUGHTS TO THE SHOW

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      due to after what happened the other day,I'm going to just say this: I have every right to comment what I like just like everyone else does on youtube,someone told me that I'm not allowed to comment on the videos that I like,and that's not true at all,I have every right to enjoy the things I like on here just like everyone else
      I don't get why people can't leave me alone? can't you see how highly uncomfortable I am? I've been bullied and cyberbullied all my life,so replying to me makes my anxiety sky rocket,I say one thing and then I get attention that I never wanted in the first place

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eeveefennecfox i feel you sometimes bullies are a lot i got bullied too not cyber bullied but i did got bullied unfortunately thats just how the world is theese days😭😭😭☹️
      how do you deal with it tho i cant deal with it??
      and im sorry if i made you uncomfortable😭
      and also i welcome a new mlb fan 🎉💖💖❤️💞🤗

  • @peachysunoo_7
    @peachysunoo_7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She didn’t get the time miraculous she just used timetagger in my opinion

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right
      Propably

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably but could be true ngl

  • @theeonly_BigC
    @theeonly_BigC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    On 2:53 when Timetagger said "She's the woman I love" We all know that Lila (or whatever name you wanna call her) is gonna be the new Hawk Moth. And Timetagger is Nino's brother Chris. Soooo......does that mean Chris has a crush on Lila??? Even though on one of the episodes, I remember Chris was blushing a little when Lila touched his nose. The age gap is so real. Lila is so much older than Chris💀........unless Manon became Hawk Moth??? This is sooo confusing lol 😩

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 skin tone dosent prove it

    • @sheriasha18
      @sheriasha18 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Chris has a Crush on lila!! Who knows if lila/cerise likes little boys???😱😱

    • @TheSoulCalledZuzia
      @TheSoulCalledZuzia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's actually pretty common for kids to have crush on older people they admire - even without the older person's intentions. It doesn't make any of them pedophiles -unless they take advantage of the child's admiration toward them- . I, for sure, know I was in similar situation. And I know bunch of people who also were.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sheriasha18 She flirts with Adrien

  • @catch1435
    @catch1435 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    adrixnette Okay but Ladybug and Cat Noir season 5 OMG GLORYJOHNSON

  • @yunadorable1
    @yunadorable1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Yes, the flowers are all of Lila’s different names. And yes, they all are on Manon’s overalls. But this still isn’t enough evidence to show that Manon and Lila are the same person.
    And yes they have the same way of controlling people, but remember that Manon was controlling them like a puppet, and Lila wasn’t in the room so they showed her telling Chloe what to say.
    Also keep in mind, Lila HATES Marinette. But Manon absolutely LOVES Marinette.
    So why would her feelings and opinions about Marinette change as she got older when Marinette was the one who babysat her?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Maybe Manon feeling change because Marinette couldn't take care of her because of her boyfriend (Adrien)
      She spend more time with her boyfriend than taking care of care
      Just a Theory ,silly theory

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Must remember
      Manon and Lila have different skin color
      Manon skin is darker
      In most cases skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @Kenna-bs1l
      @Kenna-bs1l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 i feel if marinette started to hang out more with adrien why would manon get mad she loves him as well i mean she was in a photoshoot with him and seemed to have a blast with him.

    • @MayaVenice
      @MayaVenice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maybe marinette did something in the future that upset older manon, so older manon (lila) went back in time to ruin marinette's life

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MayaVenice yeah that makes sense ngl

  • @Lilyculous
    @Lilyculous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought this was a really cool theory but it doesn't make that much since, I did make up my own theory about what if they are siblings or step siblings! But I think it's still an interesting theory.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possible
      Step sisters
      Manon and Lila

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 not possible

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if they were step siblings then lilas mom probably is sabine and they would have confirmed it by now

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 Lila dad is Tom Marinette father
      In theory
      Its a Theory Lila is Marinette step sister

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490Lila and Manon being step sisters

  • @TheRealBlitzel
    @TheRealBlitzel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im conivinced this is true because... idk i just think that the fact a smol cute baby could be a dumb stupid INCREDIBLY UNBAREBLY ANOYING EVIL PEICE OF- wait i got of topic. but ye i think its hilarious thats why.

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better if creators didn't make This canon

  • @ItsFeelGoodInc
    @ItsFeelGoodInc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think its doable but REALLY far stretched and would just be bad writing as they would have to completely change Manon’s character from a toddler to a monster who hates everyone

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      possible to be true

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 skin tone dosent PROVE IT

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490
      Lila isn't Manon
      Lila is Light skinned
      Manon is Dark skinned
      They are Not the same person
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      In most cases

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 Crazy theory
      Lila Being older Manon

  • @callmenameless9970
    @callmenameless9970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing tho- it's been wayyy too long since i catched up on miraculous but I have watch the movie too- and I was confused about the ending in the miraculous movie which was different from the ending in the series, one could say it was a different timeline- but. What if that was the original? What if lila was from that timeline and came back to the past and changed the story thus the series having a different story? Maybe that's why she stuck to Gabriel more in the series? Or atleast she knew how to stick to him?
    I'm might be completely wrong tho aha

  • @rinazshaikh613
    @rinazshaikh613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And after season two or three, I saw the episodes and then I saw there was no Manan can also be related to the evidence that we so in this video who
    Agrees 👇🏻🤌🏻 and love your videos

  • @RandomEdits-m7r
    @RandomEdits-m7r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏they👏have👏different👏skin👏colour👏

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

  • @Bunnylover4ever3
    @Bunnylover4ever3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm I think it would make sence seeing as Lila finds things out really fast 🙂

  • @buyingmilk
    @buyingmilk 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only way this could make sense if if the kid had the same skin condition Michal Jackson did

  • @stefaniarusso
    @stefaniarusso 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe this theory kinda makes sense

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They skin is different
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They Propably Not the same person

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@polishalastor142 could be the same person even though we don't want to be the same person

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@catkitty_490Better if creators didn't make This canon

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 yea

  • @reiya8481
    @reiya8481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    off topic but i just wanted to say you sound A LOT like emma artly (an art youtuber) and thats all i can think about

  • @nachosucker2014
    @nachosucker2014 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the theory is bad and not planned by the writers but tbh i wouldnt be surprised if they make it canon, because we all know thomas isnt the best on making good decisions

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its better if the creators didn't make this canon

    • @nachosucker2014
      @nachosucker2014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 i hope too but the chance is too high I'm scared

  • @KeefeisAwesome
    @KeefeisAwesome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe she didn't like as much as she knew?

  • @MonaEl-Sehrawi
    @MonaEl-Sehrawi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow didnt expect that but ok i guess im shocked i need to take this all in

  • @alejandrabarrientos6722
    @alejandrabarrientos6722 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It so crazy

  • @rebekahhitzfeld4885
    @rebekahhitzfeld4885 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two flowers say both Lila's names. In season 5 Episode name is Hoaxer at the end some kids are calling her Cerise instead of Lila. Also did you see That in the beginning Lila was calling her mom and then when it ends another lady comes In and asks her a question in sign language and like responds "I was calling my agent Mom about the movie we are shooting in Mexico"... Then her mom say something in sign language again and Lila says " I know we just got reunited mom"... Idk if she is talking about being some sort of long lost daughter or what. But she has two moms and hides it from both of them. This proves that people in Paris are super dumb and that she can trick anyone even adults. So weird right?

  • @maggie7794
    @maggie7794 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not possible, Marinette did not meet Lila until like season 3 or 4 and Manon knew Marinette since like season 1 I am pretty sure of, when she started becoming her babysitter and she said that she is her moms friends daughter

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lila in season 3 propably

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah but i know that this is confusing butt it could be true since there is a time traveling miraculous idk i don't support this but anything is possible if the creators make them possible

    • @maggie7794
      @maggie7794 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 but the time traveling miraculous is protected by the owner so Gabriel doesn't go playing with the time and trying to get the miraculous easier, she got her time miraculous in season 1 and Marienette just didn't knew it was the time one she was missing then, and she didn't even know that she had a miraculous tell a few seasons later and Marienette was going to take it back from her in case to dangerous but she told her to keep it, so Marienette never had it therefore how could Lila know about it if Gabriel never did either since he don't know who has it.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maggie7794 if lila is manon that could be true however there is a way to prove it wrong otherwise

    • @maggie7794
      @maggie7794 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 I never said said that she was, I said she wasn't, Manon was first appeared in season 1 when Marienette was her babysitter, and she was mention as her moms friends daughter, we meet lila in season 3 so therefore lila could not be Manon because Manon was is a character we now know longer than Lila , if Lila was a character from season one and just as mean on the first episode then there would be a chance but she isn't, and time traveling is something that Gabriel can't get to because it has a holder that is not ladybug or chat noir because ladybug thought about getting it back but let her keep it.

  • @MaximumMichael15
    @MaximumMichael15 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know I’m late but all I gotta say if Manon was not in season 4 or 5????? Until action?????? But if that’s true then I guess it kinda make sense since we didn’t see manon for about like 40 episodes? Then if that’s true then why is action there? That would be a episode of season 6 episode 1 action but I guess Thomas really just add a episode 27.

  • @vanlieshoutjill9329
    @vanlieshoutjill9329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi ja wanted to say i love your Videos ❤

  • @TodoDekuOTP
    @TodoDekuOTP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is that why she’s so obsessed with Marinette? Still bitter over those dolls of Marinette’s all those years later? If that’s the case then Lila is an even worse written character than I ever could have fathomed.

  • @IAmTikki
    @IAmTikki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok but I have another theory that Nadia dies or goes missing in the future and she wants her real mom to come back to her and that’s why she wants the butterfly miraculous

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation In most cases

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not bad theory

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nadia couldnt have died and if manon is cerise she probebly has a bajilion moms

    • @IAmTikki
      @IAmTikki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@catkitty_490 what if, js what if manon was lila, if Nadia died she would’ve probably pretended to have other moms to be able to go to school to later get the miraculous of the butterfly to get her mom back.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IAmTikki but her mom was there when she went to school so Nadia couldn't have died but its soo confusing
      but i believe anything is possible

  • @lapoguidelli7677
    @lapoguidelli7677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anyway even if the theory is true, the really question would be. WHY?🤔
    Why would Manon travel back in time to get the Miraculous of Butterfly!?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its impossible for this to be True
      They behavior and skin are different

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe Marinette couldn't take care of her because of her boyfriend (Adrien)
      She spend more time with her boyfriend Adrien than taking care of her
      Just speculate

    • @lapoguidelli7677
      @lapoguidelli7677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 good point!, Also Manon starter to appear less and less as the series progress🧐
      I realized i made a rhyme😅

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      because she is evil as the vedio proves it that manon gives evil vibes like lila and not to mention the absense of lila when manon is around however its confusing and a crazy theory

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catkitty_490 she is a child not evil manipulative, but not evil this isn’t Stewie from family guy

  • @amolavancha943
    @amolavancha943 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If everyone has seen the time tagger episode you would know that we have a broken time miraculous left which . Also Lila has the Gabriel brand digital case where all info about miraculous their holders etc were Natalie was the only protagonist who knew this info so when she was under control of Lila in ep 17 she must have given these info too which leads to the conclusion that Ms. Manon Chamack could be Ms. Lila Rosy , Cerise etc
    She knows how to use a miraculous too where not even ladybug was able to surpass her abilities.
    I think the light thingie which took Lila was the future wielder of butterfly miraculous or Lila herself because all the butterfly wielders were able to access the time miraculous.
    Also she only target marinette because she is the former wielder of the bunny miraculous
    This is just a theory😅

    • @rubenlohata5263
      @rubenlohata5263 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      good theory but i think she targets marinette because she's the only one that never got a butterfly or smth

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lila will be Future Hawk Moth (Chrysalis)

  • @georgeserrato739
    @georgeserrato739 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both of their eyebrows shape and color looks very same

  • @RaiSeRiGGy_
    @RaiSeRiGGy_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah but I would cry if this was true like- my baby devilous angel

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be better if creators didn't make This canon

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah but its intresting

  • @adrienette4ever568
    @adrienette4ever568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually believe in the theory

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manon skin is Darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

  • @PierwotnyMikus
    @PierwotnyMikus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She cant be Manon cuz Manon likes Marinette and Ladybug and Lila hates Marinette and Ladybug

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also manon skin is Darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @That_girl_akuma
      @That_girl_akuma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm late but I think this theory makes sense because Nadia will always compare Manon to Marinette and will scold her also not spending time with her we also saw that Marinette didn't treat her good like she was so in Adrien and She got ignored many times she would also get jealous after seeing Marinette being so perfect having so many friends and the time when time tragger said that The Future hawkmoth is a Women and it's possible that Chris had a crush on Manon Because in the deleted script he said that the hawkmoth is the women he loves Plus Manon used to lie about things and the fact she lied about her whole life is crazy even her name plus what if she was using makeup there are so many things that could prove these things but it will be too long it already is we never saw that Manon loves marriente she liked Alia more

  • @TheInfintyTeach
    @TheInfintyTeach 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But Manon loves Marinette so...how can she be Cerise or Lila or WhATeVeR that girl's name is !

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not impossible
      Marinette couldn't take care of her because of her boyfriend Adrien
      She didn't have time to take care of her because of her boyfriend (Adrien)

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 but befor manon came adrian wasnt her boyfriend she had a crush on him

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 also this dosent make sense cause adrian has a crush on ladybug manon came so early we didnt even paid attention to her until now

  • @DEADCRYBABY
    @DEADCRYBABY 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wih the lady hawk moth I’m assuming Gabriel sacrificed himself for Emily so she’s hawk moth now trying to save Gabriela AHHHH THE PERFECT LOVE

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New Hawk moth will be Lila
      Gabriel join to Emelie

  • @Lilly-ed5qx
    @Lilly-ed5qx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok but…they have a height difference😭 How would Lila “shrink” to Manon’s size?..

    • @adrixnette
      @adrixnette  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the theory is that manon grew up and then came back into the past, that’s why she’s older than manon

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Teenage Manon

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      confusing

  • @wellidontknow1941
    @wellidontknow1941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This theory, or rather this concept is absurd but at this point anything is possible; if the main writer likes this idea enough, he'll find a way to bullshit this out somehow🙄
    to make things clear: i dont shit on the people who support this theory, i just think that everything in miraculous regarding time manipulation is too absurd for my personal liking and does not make sense in general, and this would only add to this messy garbage pile

  • @GabeNwagbala
    @GabeNwagbala 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lizzie This Theory is Crazy i guess this theory could be true for S6?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not possible
      They behavior and skin are different
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation
      Also Lila is Italian 🇮🇹 , Manon is French 🇨🇵

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 but it can be true

  • @Ivypool123
    @Ivypool123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    for me it does not make sense at all😅

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      makes sense and dosent make sense to me😭

  • @M3L0DY78
    @M3L0DY78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This theory weird me out a lot, but I did notice Manons shoes I believe are the same color as Lila’s jacket.

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what does that prove???

    • @Rainy_XD
      @Rainy_XD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@catkitty_490 yeah like Luka's hair maches marinette's eyes. That doesn't mean anything

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rainy_XD if anything that means they will be a couple in the future😂

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rainy_XD fr😂

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hotgirlenergy cant be possible if she loves adrian😂

  • @zuza3377
    @zuza3377 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't believe this theory. The evidence is very specific and you need to really want to find some actual evidence. We all know that the design this is a lie like look at any character in the show and tell me if they design shows anything other than stereotype their suppose to be.
    When I heard this theory I was like. Wattpad gone to far. But then again with this shows messiness it can turn out to be true

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be better if the creators didn't make This canon

    • @ishashifar
      @ishashifar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean I've seen crazier theories become true in this fandom so I wouldn't really be surprised if the creators do end up making it canon like cat blanc, felix and Adrien being sentis, jagged stone being juleka and Lukas dad (I mean this one in all fairness technically did have prior hints but it seemed like something out of a fanfic at first), Marinette having some sort of trauma from middle school, Emelie being hidden away somewhere in the mansion(some people in FANDOM appearently theorized this before she was actually shown onscreen)
      So I really wouldn't be surprised if this one also becomes canon.
      (ps I don't really believe it either but just saying..)

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ishashifar better if creators didn't make This canon

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ishashifar fr adrian being a sentimonster is hard enough

    • @zuza3377
      @zuza3377 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ishashifar I agree. Thomas gets so angry when fans make theories but then he takes the same theories and makes them canon because...he thought they were cool I guess.

  • @cartoonsintelugu9468
    @cartoonsintelugu9468 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do have a way prove this theory wrong but its gonna take like forever to type it in the comments

    • @adrixnette
      @adrixnette  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what’s the point of commenting then?? lol

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i dont think anything is possibly wrong anything could be possible if the creators make this

  • @catkitty_490
    @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats what ive been saying
    it makes sense
    to be honest i didnt believe this theory too at first
    ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its impossible for This to be True
      Manon skin is darker
      Skin tone doesn't change that much during maturation

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 ummm no skin tone can change some times
      or lila could be wearing foundation
      i know i may sound stupid but lila is smart and lila being lila would do that
      i wouldnt be suprised if lila s name is cerise or not
      but one thing to know i would never trust what she says cause she is a big liar

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 and this could be true
      some people didnt even believe adrian was a sentimonster until representation
      and the fans figured that out earlier so there is a chance that this theory is true

  • @d0rk906
    @d0rk906 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Few things:
    1. You might have noticed, but I found LOADS of episodes in seasons 1 and 2 when hawk moth could've gotten the miraculous:
    1. Timebreaker
    2. Lady wifi- how dumb is she? She had cat noir detransformed, locked in a freezer, and ladybug pinned on a wall!
    3.Copycat- I think you can guess why.
    4. Antibug- Um.... I also think you can guess why.
    5. Robustus- If Max didn't save the day, he would've won
    6. The gorilla- If Hawk Moth didn't care about Adrien (like in season 5) he would've been able to at least get the cat miraculous.
    7.Frightningale- Hawk Moth could've known their identities if it wasn't for Chloe
    8. Anansi- Bruh, Nora's so dumb.
    9. Malediktator- None dumb Andre: By the power vested in me, (hits cat noir) you will give me your miraculous!
    Dumb Andre: By the power vested in me, (hits cat noir) you are a cat! 😶
    10. Reverser- None dumb reverser: So, you don't want to give me your miraculous? We'll see about that! Reversion! *Reverses ladybug and cat noir's desire NOT to give Hawk Moth the miraculous*.
    Can you find more?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nora is not dumb
      But remember she is a female wrestler

    • @d0rk906
      @d0rk906 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I meant she could have gotten the ring if she knew it was not the earring

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@d0rk906 but where's the fun in that i admit gabriel is the dumbest person I've ever seen
      but lila she is smarter than him soooooo
      but it was fun watching it to recreation ngl

  • @khushiumeshkaushik2657
    @khushiumeshkaushik2657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So here's my theory-
    Lila is Manon cuz THEY BOTH ARE ANNOYING!💀

  • @Mapleleaf865
    @Mapleleaf865 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No this theory is going to become true and it’s going to be done horribly this is worse then the senti monster theory

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      mayby
      this is confusing and very hard to believe
      this is exactly why i dont support the time traveling miraculous

  • @marchymeow4584
    @marchymeow4584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh I'm into it

  • @thereal_sunset
    @thereal_sunset 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How would Lila be Manon
    Manon is short and Lila is tall

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Manon is a kid
      Lila a Teenager

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

  • @bartoszraczkowski3984
    @bartoszraczkowski3984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:38 how can u explain her 4 th personality daphne ( her name is revelled with s6 episode list )

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Daphne
      Another personality ?! 😧
      1 Lila
      2 Cerise
      3 Iris
      4 Daphne
      Any of Them is her Real name

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      daphne???
      where did you learn this name from
      i thought it was just lila,cerise,iris,and now daphne??
      i guess she really is a mastermind at lying and acting
      she should be in acting class💞

    • @bartoszraczkowski3984
      @bartoszraczkowski3984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I found the episode list online on some post

    • @bartoszraczkowski3984
      @bartoszraczkowski3984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      S6 episode list
      1 chrysalis ( lila as moth)
      2 marinette dupain-cheng
      3 adrien agreste
      4 rena rouge
      5 caprikid
      6 iris verdi
      7 miss hound
      8 carapace
      9 cerice bianca
      10 Purple tigress
      11 pigella
      12 tomoe tsurugi
      13 polymouse
      14 rooster bold
      15 ryuko- back and forth part 1
      16 argos - back and forth part 2
      17 monkey king
      18 vesperia
      19 pegasus
      20 daphne azzuri
      21 viperion
      22 lila rossi
      23 bunnyx
      24 flairmidable - Heroes night part 1
      25 cat noir - heroes night part 2
      26 Miraculous ladybug
      I wonder Why minotaurox has no episode

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bartoszraczkowski3984 good question

  • @gabrielabitunarua1940
    @gabrielabitunarua1940 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sem so sweet

  • @dahlia.rader124
    @dahlia.rader124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh

  • @JayleeCastillo.
    @JayleeCastillo. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi love you vids ❤

  • @Fnaffan-g5b
    @Fnaffan-g5b 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But i think when manon grev up i think she didn't be mean and bad like lila

  • @MariamRaheel-z4w
    @MariamRaheel-z4w 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know 😅

  • @noskill4510
    @noskill4510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, saying it would make sense, doesn't mean its true...

    • @adrixnette
      @adrixnette  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no one said it is true lmao

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its just a theory which could potentially be true

  • @RX0SE
    @RX0SE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    or maybe they're just related 😭😭

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Propably Not

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not possible
      Manon is 🇨🇵
      Lila is 🇮🇪

    • @RX0SE
      @RX0SE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polishalastor142 ok

  • @SimplyMeNoah
    @SimplyMeNoah 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NEXT THEORY: Marinette is a sentimonster

    • @adrixnette
      @adrixnette  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That one’s definitely not true!!! The only way Tom and Sabine would be able to use the miraculous to create a child was if they were close to Gabriel, since he was the one that found it/was in possession of it! Which both Tom and Sabine were not!!

    • @virnalassiter382
      @virnalassiter382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah the reason she became weird in the first place is because of what chole did to drown her just because she's weird doesn't make her a sentimonster and if she were a sentimonster one of her parents would be dead and also she would be controlled

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@virnalassiter382Chloe

    • @catkitty_490
      @catkitty_490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@polishalastor142 chloe might be so who knows

    • @Hotgirlenergy
      @Hotgirlenergy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahahhahahahahhahahhahahhah

  • @M1less
    @M1less หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hear me out!
    What if, in the future, Lila finds out who marinette is, and somehow travels back in time to destroy/ sabotage marinette because she knows that she’s ladybug?

    • @polishalastor142
      @polishalastor142 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's will be in London special

  • @itsmekelly62
    @itsmekelly62 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well what about Lila hating Marinette?

  • @AquaxZenNezu
    @AquaxZenNezu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    uhm im not really sure...