SALTY OLD MAN THREATENS ME! (MW3 MOABS Throwback Thursday)

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ความคิดเห็น • 781

  • @Andrew-up7sf
    @Andrew-up7sf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1115

    Bro that guy Mayhem literally ddoses my internet 24/7. IT"S SO ANNOYING WHEN I GET PUT OFFLINE FOR 10 min THEN RUN INTO MAYHEM AGAIN AND INTERNET BACK DOWN

    • @NateGibsonYT
      @NateGibsonYT  6 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      Yeah so this actually happened to me as well, thats why the video cuts to the Scar MOAB all of a sudden. I honestly thought steam had just gone down or something, but I guess he might of ddossed me? Lame.

    • @Zagruez
      @Zagruez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      NateGibson in a almost 7 year old game he does that bruuuh

    • @Zagruez
      @Zagruez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I hope i run in to him and learn him a lesson

    • @squinqz8bp230
      @squinqz8bp230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      teach him a lesson* ;)

    • @Zagruez
      @Zagruez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      8 Ball Brit oh hehe

  • @prismatic3695
    @prismatic3695 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1331

    It annoys me when older people say to show some respect simply because they're older. Being older doesn't justify respect, being a decent person does.

    • @justdave6995
      @justdave6995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Josue Giron you got my respect

    • @balvanovic4
      @balvanovic4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      "You don't demand respect, You earn it"

    • @Mateoski97
      @Mateoski97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Anthony Rogers Elders need to grow the fuck up and earn respect. Their age means nothing and doesn't protect them from being put in their place or a punch to the face if necessary.

    • @prismatic3695
      @prismatic3695 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mateoski my general philosophy is to respect everybody regardless of whether they're 10 years younger or 50 years older. But if they begin to act like this guy in the video, then I stop giving them respect.

    • @chrisgaming3454
      @chrisgaming3454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can he get a amen?

  • @fizzy_4896
    @fizzy_4896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "Have some respect!" he said... You should've pulled his life support

    • @EternalReaper123
      @EternalReaper123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was the shittiest insult I’ve ever heard, the only thing he could do was ddoss you to save himself of the embarrassment of saying that

  • @zetsumyonaa
    @zetsumyonaa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I played against them and I got kicked for “hacking”

    • @MrSr3nity_97
      @MrSr3nity_97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow that must been annoying

    • @zetsumyonaa
      @zetsumyonaa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4Za :] yea it was

    • @ajojoreference
      @ajojoreference 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He seems like the kind of person that would kick you for the gun you use

    • @zetsumyonaa
      @zetsumyonaa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A JoJo Reference it seems like it but nah he kicks people who kills him a lot of times.

    • @ajojoreference
      @ajojoreference 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What a scumbag

  • @jah5199
    @jah5199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    He threatens Nate still continues to be nice what a cool guy

    • @MrSr3nity_97
      @MrSr3nity_97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That is Nate Gibson :)
      He is a really respected PC COD player

    • @vRakunz
      @vRakunz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrSr3nity_97 and has good manners most people don't respond with "yes sir" someone talking to me like that wouldn't have gotten "yes sir" lol

    • @AnubisFenrir
      @AnubisFenrir 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vRakunz especially when he said I'm talking to you boy 🤣

    • @Vandalae
      @Vandalae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mayhem is a jerk. I was playing with him like 10 mins ago

  • @kevinnuno7362
    @kevinnuno7362 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    You can go into the config file and ctrl+f the word sensitivity. There you can adjust the value manually. Only thing that sucks is that your game has to be closed in order to work

  • @dylanrad_
    @dylanrad_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    I've played with that mayhem guy before he's trash lol

    • @zanethekeymasterr
      @zanethekeymasterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He had a 2 KD tho

    • @couragelk9428
      @couragelk9428 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Zeloxik 2kd doesn't mean shit, you can have a 2kd for camping the whole game and still be trash as fuck

    • @zanethekeymasterr
      @zanethekeymasterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VG Courage oh

    • @scout641
      @scout641 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Zeloxik he ddoses people to win....

    • @zanethekeymasterr
      @zanethekeymasterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SCOUT oh. Fuck him

  • @chinokent3693
    @chinokent3693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +721

    I only watch your videos becuase every other ex call of duty player plays fornite

    • @ImBulletm9
      @ImBulletm9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I watch Nate Gibson, because he's a god. half the CoD Yts were shit before they switched to that cancer xD

    • @spazz8853
      @spazz8853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr Space that so fucking ture

    • @LunaWaves
      @LunaWaves 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The noobs will be back for bo4.. they should stay on fortnite.. damn click baiters

    • @MrSr3nity_97
      @MrSr3nity_97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For reals, fuck them

    • @KitchenerLesli
      @KitchenerLesli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watch nate because he has the thumbs of god

  • @Julia-ge4by
    @Julia-ge4by 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Bruh, that mayhem guy thought i was cheating once. AND THIS WAS HALF A YEAR AGO TF IS HE STILL DOING

    • @oofoof1285
      @oofoof1285 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juliax Mayhem ddoses people so lmao

    • @morallygray6527
      @morallygray6527 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because his old, decomposing, frail body and mind can’t keep up with these “young folks” so every time someone is smoking his ass, he uses lobby tools to kick them and then ddosses them.

    • @linda-0587
      @linda-0587 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      morallyGray 'ddosses'?

  • @no_Context_siege
    @no_Context_siege 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This makes me wanna play MW3 and destroy people, but then I realize I'm trash

  • @higinia5674
    @higinia5674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hands down my favorite cod ever! The trilogy is amazing but MW3 will always have my heart. Glad you played this nate. Cheers!!

  • @dantesmythe6354
    @dantesmythe6354 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mayhem sounds so familiar, a friend told me his internet got booted off by someone like him. He definitely fits the description

  • @Honeneko.
    @Honeneko. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Oh. Mayhem is a nobody.

  • @waltergs715
    @waltergs715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Is NATE hacking?" no, he not hacking he playing with brains.

  • @daniels.rendulich2127
    @daniels.rendulich2127 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *gets MOAB* Nate -"Cool" xD

  • @justfeckingsh00t91
    @justfeckingsh00t91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That my friend is when you get on the mic and say "Okay Boomer" and see how they react.

    • @Zagruez
      @Zagruez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man if only it was a thing back then

  • @colingoode1388
    @colingoode1388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun Fact: Mayhem still plays mw3 to this day.

    • @JC-vg1vt
      @JC-vg1vt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's sad. I bet he still throw a hissy fit when he gets his ass kicked by other players.

    • @cory9803
      @cory9803 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He a weird ass old dude to be acting like that on a video game

  • @senpaisatan3441
    @senpaisatan3441 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel Nate. Call of duty is my #1 favorite 1st person shooter game series, and you portray it with such pride and beauty. Thank you for your service 😭👊

  • @GanqueGaming
    @GanqueGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do you have FOV increased? If so, how?

  • @ashermorales8276
    @ashermorales8276 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being called a hacker is the best compliment

  • @GanqueGaming
    @GanqueGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    what Mouse DPI / In-Game Sensitivity you use brother?

    • @rileygshep7606
      @rileygshep7606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He uses 800 dpi, and in mw3, you can’t select you sens, all you have is a slider with no numbers

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rileygshep7606 there are numbers in the config

  • @shotty.
    @shotty. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yoooo that scar smacking even harder than i remember 🤩 Wish the new scar has the sauce like this🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @MrAdrien914
    @MrAdrien914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last stand + Shotgun = best way to kill someone who's better than you

  • @salad3955
    @salad3955 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thumbnail got me dead🤣

  • @arjunpremgi1371
    @arjunpremgi1371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what I love about cod it's when old guys and little kids fight lol

  • @schmali804
    @schmali804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Pls play with TGD (TheGamingDefintion) this duo would be amazing. 😍

    • @extraordinarytv5451
      @extraordinarytv5451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      InF4cT Schmali yes

    • @Tenyson05_
      @Tenyson05_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can't because of location

    • @stigmata9240
      @stigmata9240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Otaku Lewis What do you mean? He can play with him. Their ping might be higher but it shouldn't be that much of an issue.

    • @squinqz8bp230
      @squinqz8bp230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The whole reason they are so good is because they maximize fps and get host because they want pristine game time which doesn't hinder their gameplay. even I can play well with arthritis on MW3 when i'm host lols. Although yes, that collab would be bloody brilliant. I watch both of these guys :)

    • @stigmata9240
      @stigmata9240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      8 Ball Brit No, that's not why they're good. Nate and TGD can snap amazingly. I consistently watch both of them. I've never saw snaps and players like them. Nate was a professional player. Stop it, get some help.

  • @BadVidsGaming
    @BadVidsGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nate you should play some Ironsight

  • @kggw
    @kggw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well i mean if shooting you in the face is hacking, yes totally.
    But seriously good 👍

  • @parsakondori
    @parsakondori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:28 i’m heavily offended

  • @futbolerstogo8992
    @futbolerstogo8992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was one salty boi

  • @qcma3741
    @qcma3741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite funny. Two of them in the lobby, MAYHAM and SMOKE U, are still using host tool even in 2020

  • @leastattached103
    @leastattached103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mayhem has successfully been hit with a DDOS attack Sat April 6th 2019 8:25 pm. Suspension will last until Sun April 7th 2019 8:25 am.

    • @leastattached103
      @leastattached103 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @stock and static No sign of hitback this guy really is an amateur 😁

  • @zestyfruitloops6290
    @zestyfruitloops6290 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That man is dDosing on MW3. That’s a new level of low; and even after all that Nate was still chill, love you man.

  • @casualprism6467
    @casualprism6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are so good at original cods its insane

  • @Snackbeard
    @Snackbeard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAYHEM: 'last chance NATE'
    5 mins later: *doorbell rings*

  • @deniz6734
    @deniz6734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear Nate has aged in reverse. Looks old as fuck then but young now

  • @AlphaDalpha283
    @AlphaDalpha283 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Show some respect" What did Nate do tho?

    • @tempestzz5682
      @tempestzz5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love how they always ask for respect yet they show none...

  • @n3stea791
    @n3stea791 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After 7 years, its still the best COD! Nice video btw.

  • @DooIy
    @DooIy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro he’s like fucking 56 years old wtf is he doing 😂

  • @watkinsanthony89
    @watkinsanthony89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    like the way you stay calm. I go ballistic.

  • @totesfleisch258
    @totesfleisch258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I played against those people before, that Woman always goes apeshit on me because i have a 5 K/D, by now, everytime they see me, they immediately ragequit.

  • @Kignkgo
    @Kignkgo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this channel like 2 or 3 years ago by simply being impressed at your mw3 play. Havent play much cod besides bo3 since then but still enjoy your vids. Keep it up

  • @remissiveslave
    @remissiveslave 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your reflexes and thought process is frighteningly lethal,I'd hate to be against you.

  • @voxaza
    @voxaza 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks you for the great upload Nate :D enjoyed every second of this video, the older CoDs are so much better and bring back so many memories :D thank you ❤️

  • @TheIXChallengerXI
    @TheIXChallengerXI 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love playing mw3 and watching you play it is amazing. i wish i could run into people like this when i go off its so much fun listening to them, great video ontop of it! :D

  • @christopher2714
    @christopher2714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Memories

  • @oofoof1285
    @oofoof1285 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salty Old man throws a tantrum over the internet? How usual.

  • @thinhtoo3898
    @thinhtoo3898 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The perfect connection, its like the type of connection I get in Black Ops 2 on PC

  • @itzmooregames9018
    @itzmooregames9018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing powerful enough to kill Nate is himself, he’s insane

  • @gamingwithdeeman9406
    @gamingwithdeeman9406 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    !!Congratulations!! You've just earned a sub nate

  • @JustCraftItNow
    @JustCraftItNow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao i see that Northwind guy in Mw3 lobbies everyday

  • @dismal999
    @dismal999 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish mw3 came back to life

  • @nevonicwolf4827
    @nevonicwolf4827 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My terrible internet just slammed me with 60fps and i got a headache from your movement 😂

  • @clay530
    @clay530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What respect were you supposed to give him lol

    • @mingi1489
      @mingi1489 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Samuel Pierce
      *Nate does litterally nothing*
      Mayhem: “Show me some respect”

  • @100tjowy2
    @100tjowy2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get so many good vibes watching this video. I played this game non stop when I was only 8 (I believe). I played on the Wii and I remember hitting prestige 8, wow.

    • @pluto3194
      @pluto3194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This man is a professional wii gamer damn

  • @ImTyMac
    @ImTyMac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I love the 40-50 year olds that play and get mad. Had a person in a comment section get mad at a triple nuke and say that the guy “beat up kids”

  • @Stackitupjayy
    @Stackitupjayy ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring back throwbacks if u can

  • @grayrim
    @grayrim 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That guy was on such a power trip

  • @scvmface7253
    @scvmface7253 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i miss this game so much.

  • @Spartan117A51
    @Spartan117A51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I seen somebody running around Killing people like he does, I'm simply leaving the lobby. The game isnt playable at that point lol

  • @jameskennedy5141
    @jameskennedy5141 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is Call of Duty not the game play but everything else. Love and miss it all said in a Morgan Freeman voice

  • @Vincent-pd9vo
    @Vincent-pd9vo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's been too fucking long since I checked in. last time I checked in you had 7k subs man, nice growth

  • @00wrongun
    @00wrongun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Things never change online used to get shit loads of messages when I was playing well now I just have friends only peace & quite lol

  • @monkeymoneygaming9855
    @monkeymoneygaming9855 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The good old days

  • @bigtime9597
    @bigtime9597 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI, Nate, there are programs that allow you to look into the names, phone numbers, email addresses, home addresses and IPs of anyone in the lobby with you. Give him the ultimatum of getting him busted or behaving like a good boy. Usually shuts people up. A former TH-camr, VirtuallyVain, used to use the program to prank people in CoD. Recommend you keep it in case someone tries what Mayhem did, long as you know who did it.

  • @stormnorman5247
    @stormnorman5247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Johnny Blaze isn't old. He's just cranky.

  • @luistopete6421
    @luistopete6421 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    u know what nate ive been watching your videos for the last couple days and you a good man real patient dont talk shit even tho u got all the right too do so and tell these guys to fuck off and you got mad skills im subing broski to your channel thanks for the entertaining videos btw

  • @OO-mf1fc
    @OO-mf1fc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankyou nategibson, after i watched this video i decided not to touch any call of duty in the future

  • @tryeasy1634
    @tryeasy1634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mw3 and bo1 had the best gold skins don't argue with me

  • @AntiiElian
    @AntiiElian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve moved on from COD now but your gameplays make me miss the good old days ):

  • @ohdeer1823
    @ohdeer1823 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    CoD on PC in 2018...man you are a legend.....

  • @vchristianl5877
    @vchristianl5877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    mw3 hella smooth

  • @silentpicklee2437
    @silentpicklee2437 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time seeing Nate... thought he'd be like a 18-19 year old try hard he looks 30. But idc he is still G O D

  • @inoru
    @inoru 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you go into your mw3 folder i think its either in main or players there is a config_mp.cfg file that if you edit it with something like notepad++ you can CTRL+F and find sensitivity and give it an exact value

  • @xanderkopec9674
    @xanderkopec9674 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    SPECIALIST BONUS ACHEIVED

  • @TwoFacedYumiko
    @TwoFacedYumiko 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:27 LOL

  • @suicideslime8379
    @suicideslime8379 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Megalol this video is a bit old but salt is funny af and i love how every video he just goes AH TEAMATE IN THE WAY

  • @midnightly1195
    @midnightly1195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been ddosed by Mayhem too lol

  • @SpectrePilot301
    @SpectrePilot301 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moab seems to be the most usless kill streak ever for the amount of kills you get to unlocking it all it does is give you two kills

  • @Spud--lp5hw
    @Spud--lp5hw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to remaster this masterpiece

  • @lemmy5883
    @lemmy5883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see a 1v1 against you and TheGamingDefintion would be a good video!

  • @reich963
    @reich963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay the only thing I don’t get is how did he see that guy at 3:51 the one that was in that tunnel thing like he just snapped to him and there wasn’t a uav up?

  • @andrewgarner2323
    @andrewgarner2323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The kill at 8:50 deff looks suspicious. He automatically starts talking about mouse movement because he knew it looked fishy.

    • @synister9059
      @synister9059 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you not know what sound is? He has headphones so he can hear movement 😂

  • @darkpillowz
    @darkpillowz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *gets MOAB from 24 kiLL streak* "cool"

    • @KnoxTV420
      @KnoxTV420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specialist...

  • @monikamorningstarshadlo4129
    @monikamorningstarshadlo4129 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your FOV with the scar is so COOL, and I don’t know why....

  • @zbLoodlust087
    @zbLoodlust087 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the game that made me quit for like 5 years lol

  • @lilmoris1
    @lilmoris1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah the good old Mayhem... He's well known in mw3 because he's toxic

  • @vonchael7500
    @vonchael7500 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen of a old squeeker before

  • @babyitsju9767
    @babyitsju9767 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:51 Ian Trina hate but it seems like aimbot😂😂😂😂

  • @jamaicanlovrboy
    @jamaicanlovrboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    playing with a keyboard really does give you an advantage

    • @scout641
      @scout641 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jamaicanlovrboy uhmm no? He is playing against other people on pc who use keyboard and mouse. How is that giving him an advantage? Are you slow or just stupid?

    • @deucedaman
      @deucedaman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SCOUT I think he was coming from another point of reference.

    • @scout641
      @scout641 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jamaicanlovrboy first off where in this video is a controller even referenced and everyone knows this you fucking moron read a book you spazz

  • @FenoLP
    @FenoLP 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This beat at the end is sick bro 😷

  • @invulnerable9859
    @invulnerable9859 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re really good.

  • @MultiGotch
    @MultiGotch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing as always 😁👍

  • @rxthmza250
    @rxthmza250 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mw3❤️❤️❤️❤️that music makes me happy

  • @sennvandesande1965
    @sennvandesande1965 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    bruh you shoot sooooo fast, if you were in a game with me i would call you a hacker too XD

  • @bashfulsr3928
    @bashfulsr3928 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @3:38 now lemme see you Dip! Dip! Dip! Dip!

  • @zaachj6502
    @zaachj6502 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    damm you're good
    giving me hella nostalgia

  • @illuminose6494
    @illuminose6494 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what’s Mayhem been up to these days

  • @amazingscout2363
    @amazingscout2363 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nate 2:20 those were some beautiful kills

  • @OrionRox
    @OrionRox 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up man! We really need more players in PC, love this game!!