Honda Snow Blower - Will It Run?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- I bought this Honda HS55 snow blower from a flipper who pulled it from the trash. After working on it a while he realized this was not a easy fix. So I bought it! And he was right. There are a lot of issues with this machine. The engine will not start despite having spark, fuel, compression and timing. You will never guess why. There are bigger issues with this engine then not running. Lets see if I can get all the issues sorted out.
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Borescope, Broken Governor, Compression Test, Drive Pulley, Drive Wheels, Fixed, Fuel, GX120, GX140, GX160, GX200, Generator, Governor Calibration, Governor Replacement, Governor Reset, Honda, HS55, HS-55, Missing Choke Lever, Missing Push Rods, No Spark, Predator Engine, Push Rods, Rotator Cap, Small Engine, Spark Plug Gap, Timing, Troubleshooting, Valve Clearance, Valve Spring Retainer, Wheels Will No Turn, Will Not Start
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A great example of how much harder it is to troubleshoot something after someone else has tried to repair it.
Repairing after someone automatically doubles the price of repair.
Schooled! It's almost like someone messed this engine up with a number of issues just to see if you could identify and fix them. I once took a small engine repair class and this video was like the final exam.
It's a good final exam.
Actually my thought was a kid took it apart and put it back together learning about engines/repair. Weird the push rods are missing though. Any way for them to drop down in?
James... Your long videos are not a problem. Lots of good info and that takes time. Can't wait for part 2.
Thanks. Would make a 2 hour video, but will take a week or two to get the parts I need.
Long videos are welcome because they duplicate the repair time usually. 👍👍
@@jcondon1 Don't know if you have heard of Andrew Camarata, he does long videos 1hr plus occasionally. Sometimes the videos cover YEARS of time.
Whoever worked on that unit before you. This message is for that gentleman. Please never pick up a wrench again.
I feel guilty about even thinking of this, but I always hope there is lots wrong with the stuff you fix, so that I get to see how it's fixed 😉
lol , he is very good in explaining the problems and solutions.
Don't you just love it when someone else has been there before you? Treating that engine with all the love and care in the world, and giving it the benefit of their vast knowledge and experience!
Gotta love the brilliant... "I have a buddy that can fix that for you" and totally fruck it up! Great detailed progress. Much appreciated! Love and blessings from Ontario Canada!
Thanks 👍
@@jcondon1 Always from tech to tech!
I tinkered with Honda Trail 90's for many years and the forum I was on had acronyms - DPO was the Damn Previous Owner, typically the person responsible for the weird and stupid "repairs" you had to un-do.
Even with the missing push rods, I never in a hundred years would have caught that valve retainer swap! You Sir, are a Pro,....
Get well soon!!! Your voice sounds alien!! Can tell you are stuffed up! Hope all is well buddy
I used to sell these when they were new. Best snowblower you could buy in the day.
It is built very well
I bought ours in '88 and the flat head Biggs & Stratton was still the norm engine wise! The over head valve engine is a big improvement! My blower still runs great and it does pitch a fit if pushed to hard! But hey we both moved a lot of snow! Back in winter of '93 as got 28' of snow! We both got beat up that year!
Snow is like sex,....
You never know how much you are going to get,
Or how long it will last!
BTW, instead of all the bolts on the carb, I have a few sets of 3/8" stainless tubing, cut to different lengths, I use for the purpose of your bolts.....
Great tip!
Got to admire your attention to detail and your thoroughness. Great job again, James.
Afternoon James, I'm new to your chanel and as I've just had my shoulder operated on I have been binge watching all your video's, what a great site. I'm a mechanic myself running my own business fixing scissor lifts and cherry pickers but always have loved working on small engine's Lawnmowers, Gen sets etc. It's nice to see how you check out the powerheads as that is something I don't get into very much. I have thrown away several Chinese generators when they have burnt out one of the three 120v windings to make up the 3 phase as you just cannot seem to get the individual spares as easy as you should. They seem to be making them as a throw away item now. I still have a old 1960's portable ex Telecommunication 240v generator that that still runs and does everything as if it were new.
Great site, can't wait to see how the snow plough gets on. I was talking to the TV and saying about the pullies being the wrong way around and luckily you where on board with my thoughts 😁👍.
Regards Richard 🇬🇧
Thanks Richard. Hope you recover soon.
@@jcondon1 Thank you
Someone sure messed with that who hadn't got a clue but it's in excellent hands now,
If I didn't know better, I'd say a 12 year old me worked on this machine before you got it.
Thank you so much for your videos. I had trouble starting my lawn mower and found a clogged jet and got her running again. I have learned so much from your videos.
Excellent step by step troubleshooting. I just bought the same HS55 and followed your video , I like the pace,clear voice and clear video quality. Very much appreciated and i am a new follower for life .
I hate to say it but there are unscrupulous equipment dealers who will take a machine in for service and sabotage an older engine just to get a customer to buy a new machine rather than pay to fix the old one. Or this could have been someone who knew nothing about how stuff works and after forgetting how it came apart reassembled the parts they hadn't lost and then got rid of it. We'll never know.
Another great save with methodical and patient sleuthing. Excellent work. Don't forget to check the gear oil in the worm gear for the auger.
"Honda Snow Blower - Will It Run?" Yes. The question answers itself. It's like asking if the sun is hot... In my experience, if a Honda has been well maintained, aka regular oil changes and clean fuel, it's usually a matter of adjusting the valves to get them running. I should mention we don't have much ethanol in the fuel here, so, carb issues are extremely rare.
Its amazing how bad a honda can be,and they still run
@@jeffclark2725 Yeah. I've been shocked a few times...
I have had a few that ran great. Dropped the bowl on the carb and wondered how? Carb was a mess, but you would never know it.
@@jcondon1 ditto, found old pot puller fishing motors that were Honda powered, its amazing how bad they were and could still start
Glad to see you always checking the oil, sad to see when engines seize due to lack of oil. 🇨🇦
Wow, what a mess. Always interesting when “someone” has been there before😉
Amazing diagnostic skills, James! So many things wrong, no wonder it wouldn't run. See you next week! Thanks for posting your videos.
Old Honda equipment in general are built like a tank and run great. My friend gave me his 1980's lawn mower that was totally built in Japan and still runs great. I enjoy watching James working on different machines and learn different ways of troubleshooting. I am guessing he is an engineer by profession due to the way he thinks through problems.
Sometimes Mustie squirts a little fuel down the spark plug hole in addition to quick start spray. Just a suggestion.👍🏻
Never ever seen a Honda muffler guard that nice and shiney.
No spark. yea right. i know that when your done with it . it will be a fine and working great. i can't wait for part 2.
What an adventure!! There appears to be another James out there who salvages usable parts from cadaver engines and then discards the missassembles carcass. I always hate being the second person to solve a problem.
Hi, James. There were too many good lessons in this video to mention. It is definitely going into my, "How To" saved videos. Thanks for your due diligence re your viewers. Somebody used that as a parts machine. I hope it wasn't your flipper guy. I think the pully bolt is the correct one. We will see next week! Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
Thank goodness you caught the pully arrangement issue... I was yelling at the screen (like you'd hear me).
This has been an interesting case. I was pleased to hear at the end that you were going to thoroughly check all of torques, etc. Last person certainly was a hacker.
I learned a few decades ago, do not replace the belts with automotive belts. The auger one will last maybe 5 minutes if you're lucky.
I second all the great positive comments about your videos. I am really looking forward the part 2.
This is a test, this is only a test!
If this had been an actual emergency then they would have called you from the start! 😂
Great video. Almost like someone was wanting to see if they could stump you.
Denied…
Great to see the process.
Thank you!
You’re a methodical, logical genius! Thanks for taking extra time to record, narrate, edit and share it with us!
I respect and envy your patience. Thanks for letting us watch
That machine is feeling thankful now. See you next week. Be safe.
Always keep in mind it may get tedious and complex, but we are enjoying the effort and learning experiences. I have learned how to diagnose things just by either listening or visual . Thank you!
"It's Amazing the Difference Pushrods Make"
Hey James - that just might be the title for your book!
Those classic words "someones been in here!" Great video as usual, waiting to see the state of the governor mechanism.
Safety suggestion. Always check the bolts on the augers. Make sure it has shear bolts. Many times they have been replaced with standard bolts. Not safe.
I have a slightly older tracked Hs 50, 1983. No issues with motor, however had to weld and build up scraper mount, fab’d new scraper out of old shovel (good steel), repainted blower shell, put belting rubber on the blower edges, looks and runs like brand new. I almost certainly would have given up on the one with all the issues of this engine.
I smiled to myself when you took the valve cover off. There was so much noteworthy in just one shot, I couldn't help it. And credit where credit is due; whoever was in there at least made an effort to fix it even if they messed up a bit.
I haven't even watched the video yet but I go to thumbs up because I know I'm gonna like it. I've got a power washer with a bad pump please do some videos on power washers thank you.
I did one and it had a bad pump. Was a short video.
My guess is that once the governor broke it became a parts machine. That would explain the things that are missing and why it seems to have been reassembled just enough that pieces didn't fall off and get lost. Someone acquired it and thought it was a runner but couldn't get it to work.
You are a wealth of knowledge and I am engrossed in every video !!!
I've not pulled an engine apart & found there were parts missing!! First time I've seen this.
I was shouting at the screen "The pulleys are swapped" just before you found the problem. It's always so much harder to fix something when someone else has had a go. The faults no longer follow a logical progression. I'm sure you'll get it all sorted.
Now that i have finished binge watching all your videos in the past month or 2..now i actually have to wait until you post part 2 of this one😁 ...thanks for ALL your videos👍🏻
Glad you like them!
I started having suspicions when the guy told you it just didn't have spark and you found it was sparking like a house on fire. I thought; some Billy Bob Yahoo has been in there ahead of him. But, I would have never thought it would have missing push rods.
Wow James! You picked up a hot mess with this one! But I know you can sort it out. Great video. Can’t wait to see the next.
Well a 2 part video do what you need to do to get this matter of this machine done in a timely manner ,👍👌
Here in the Southern UK we do not get enough snow often enough to warrant getting any sort of snow clearer. On the very seldom occasions we do I use a large shovel instead. There are many faults on this machine James. It is well worth doing it. When you have repaired it you will get a good price.
Love watching your videos, hopefully next week comes fast,
Great Video James , Looking forward to Part II... Appreciate these classes ....
Great video and diagnosis. These old Hondas are always worth saving.
I like your positive outlook on this challenge. I don't know if I could have remained as calm as you when dealing with the obvious incompetence of whoever was "repairing" this machine in the past. Good video!
It makes for a good video, but a lot of work. Need to get one with just a dirt carb to make up for this one.
Wow. I think the flipper took the engine out, realized the governor was bad, and gave up on it. They just threw it back together and walked away from it, after stealing the push rods for something else, and sold it to you in a dishonest fashion.
Once again you demonstrate your excellent skillset, looking forward to next week. Thanks for sharing
It’s amazing the difference the push rods makes! That’s a good one 🤣😂
I have the exact same one! My friend was throwing it out. Needed tires. Needs a gas line. Runs fantastic! I did learn slot from your video. Thanks
Just no spark.........and EVERYTHING else! Nice Job 👍
James, you are excellent at trouble shooting and explaining what you find. Thank you. keep it up....
Hey James Condon; it's like you hit the jackpot on screwed up engines with this snowblower! It's like a catalog of horrible "somebody (incompetent) has been here before" problems. After this snowblower's two episodes you could stop making engine repair videos on You Tube and just fix generator-heads! ROFLOL! Your methods of diagnosis are all on display here.
BTW, I don't mind longer videos, up to an hour or so long. I recently watched one that was a compilation of 7 videos on two channels, and ran for 2.5 hours straight! It was a riot!
I would never trust a flipper , unless you know them personally . That engine looks like it was a donor engine for parts . the fact that it is an older engine probably has good quality parts , and is worth fixing . great video .
I trust the flipper. But of coarse he only wants the stuff that's easy to fix. He sends me stuff like this that is not worth his time.
We used to use compressed air to keep the valves closed. Our compression tester fitting fit our air hose perfectly. Screw in the compression tester hose and connect the air hose. Keep finger clear in case the engine rotates.
Love your videos, I used to work on these engines and it was so fun, looking forward to the other videos!
Awesome! A snowblower video😀
Thanks 👍
Come on No Spark. More like here's a Basket. Lookin pretty sharp, James.
yeesh, with how messed up that engine is, I would have thrown in the towel and just driven down to harbor freight and picked up one of those new bigblock 224cc engines. Would be a very nice power boost for that machine.
For sure. The GX140 is a little underpowered.
Missing pushrods, never saw that coming lol! It looked like there was a lot of metal shrapnel around what’s left of the governor gear and scratch marks in the crankcase, hope the cylinder walls and crank bearing aren’t scratched up. Awesome troubleshooting, it’s almost like a shop teacher sabotaged the engine as a skill test for a student!
I enjoy watching your video's. I'm having to replace the connecting rod in my friends generator next week and i have the confidence to do it from watching you
Good Morning James
Great how the engine came off the frame with four bolts and a wire! LOL I thought it was going to be much harder.
I was thinking the auger was turning a little too fast. So the pulleys being backwards makes sense.
Never thought the pushrods would be gone! Excellent video as alway James! Can’t wait to see you finish it off!
Fantastic detective work and troubleshooting here, James. I can't believe how calm you remain throughout all of your videos. My buddy is totally opposite when it comes to mechanical issues. LOL Beware of wrenches and foul language flying in all directions !! Great video !!!
Great video. You sound like you have a cold. Take care
Great job...a bore scope, wow, very impressive.
good work
Hey James, Great video. Here’s a trick I do when I want run engine and not put the air filter assembly on for testing purposes. I push those brass spacers out of the air filter housing and put those against carb then put on cap nuts. I see you used some nuts as spacers. Just a thing I’ve done over the years.
James i bought one of these used almost 20 years ago with a blown transmission. Fixed it and I just retired it this past winter. Well built
Machines!
Wow, you have to be a detective, untangling what the previous person did on top of what was really broken! Great video. I look forward to seeing you finish working on this Honda.
Great troubleshooting James, someone had obviously been into that engine before, looking forward to part 2!
That was a really good job of spotting that problem with the retainers. I wonder if the piston was not sucking the intake valve partially open when you did the compression test.
That would be guess.
WOW, Makes a guy wonder what they were thinking by taking out the push rods . And installing the pulleys backwards ! Great detective work James .. ENJOYED
I looking forward to the next video so you can fix it the right way not the other guy way who don't know what he doing.
I’ve seen those pushrods, made from wrongpartium!
James, those Honda belts are metric and are hard to locate in a hardware store. I tried 6 different belts on my HS 80 and finally had to bite the bullet and get a set from Honda. Honda belts will last 6-8 yrs., after market belts slip quicker.
It's been a rough week with everything in the world. I needed this video to remind me of happier stuff.
Hi James nice sitting in your class today mate great looking machine worth saving as you know Honda engines go on for ever if they are cared for Its like it has been sabotaged by some one who did not know what they were doing as for your video the longer the better James
Thanks Dean
Push rods? Where we're going we don't need pushrods!
Waiting to see how you fix governor. Good eye on seeing that pullies where backwards.
Michael.
Looks like a fun project and brave of you to tackle based on its age and origin. Although, it's a Honda so at least you can get the engine parts needed. Hysterical that it had no push rods and that the pulleys were reinstalled bass ackwards. Looks like it should be a good running machine when you are done and looking forward to part 2.
Wow, a lot of unexpected issues. A lot to learn in this video.
I was as surprised as you that someone removed the push rods. This may have gone through more than one flipper.
Very good progress. Glad to see the pulley alignment was easy to resolve.
Looking forward to the next video.
Dave.
Well done! You do a great job of staying positive and optimistic, even when there is a new issue and obstacle at every turn! Every dead engine/machine tells a story. When I work on this stuff, I like to try and figure out the story as well. This Honda is sure a puzzle. The missing push rods are a total head-scratcher. It was awesome that the Predator push rods worked! Talk about Honda Clone! lol
It's like a whodunnit. Very entertaining to watch, not so much fun being there, I suspect. I hope we don't find the rods were missing because they were bent (although it's running too well for that).
@@ickipoo It was found in the trash, was robbed for parts?? who knows, I've brought a few riding mowers back from the grave, with crazy stuff found missing also
You will be Proud I have 3 torque wrenches 0-250 in lbs 10-100 FT lbs 100-250 ft lbs the in the 50 in lbs and the 50 ft lbs are not interchangeable 1 can be corrected and 1 strips and breaks the bolt If you don't try you can't make mistakes or get it right
Great video and detective work. Looking forward to part two. 👍
This one is fun. I don’t know how you can stand working with those black gloves on!!!
Hey Jimmy! You're a very smart man and make awesome videos. Stop ending every sentence in a question speak with confidence! You're a very talented man and I'm sure you have helped many people so speak with authority not question 😂 just saying. Great videos