Rules VS. Reality - Is it legal to ride escooters and ewheels in the Netherlands?

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  • @goodmatchplay1372
    @goodmatchplay1372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    It's almost hard to hear that a country like the Netherlands with almost perfect streets is still banning lightweight electric vehicles. Nice video!

    • @alexderpyracc4053
      @alexderpyracc4053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nah it's exactly for that reason it's a bike country for bikes and bicycle paths are for bikes so the government doesn't see lev's as any good addition because they argued that lev's will replace biking not cars and so they made it illegal and the framework they are working on is really difficult so you need to put the Lev on your name get it registered and a license plate attached and a mirror only thing is that it doesn't require a seat so it's basically moped catagory unfortunately it will never be legal to drive the same type of lev's in the Netherlands as other countries only specific ones will be allowed that pass the type approval 😔

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alexderpyracc4053 this is honestly kinda huge for me, I love all types of PEVs and was looking at moving to the Netherlands in the future. I know that ebikes and everything will still work, but I'm just getting into EUC and escooters and this is frustrating.

    • @alexderpyracc4053
      @alexderpyracc4053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Cobalt985 yes wait till the eu has a plev framework first so all countries have the same law currently there is no pLev framework at eu level or type approval for plevs. Till that happens no pLev from other countries will be legal in the Netherlands but it will have its own kind of plevs made in the Netherlands by dutch manufacturers according to the dutch regulations. It's gonna be all made in the Netherlands not Made in China so it will be really expensive too 😔

    • @alexderpyracc4053
      @alexderpyracc4053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have given the reason why they can not allow outside Netherlands made plevs: "they are dangerous and cause damage to others" was the reason so yeah we are never getting outside created plevs only nationally made in Holland type approved plevs

    • @mangotail6808
      @mangotail6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neatherlands should welcome lightweigt vehicles, not ban them. Compared to some other countries, they have quality bike lane system

  • @ebikeengineer
    @ebikeengineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm an e-bike user but want to see more PEVs/Micro Mobility devices in use in the same lanes. These devices offer mobility while being easily stored and transported on public transportation far better than e-bikes. Petition signed even though I'm in the USA.

  • @boardshepeherd7164
    @boardshepeherd7164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Kate. Nice report. Just a quick summary of legislation here in Slovakia. Our legislation contains term - Self balancing vehicle (law definition - self-balancing vehicle means a vehicle based on an internal unstable balance which needs an auxiliary control system to maintain its balance). It is part of big category of non - motor vehicles, same as bicycles, electric scooters, horse carriages, etc. Most of the rules are same as for bicycles. Funny thing is, that by law it is prohibited to walk the dog on self balancing vehicle. Also you are not allowed to ride on one without holding handlebars by both hands - this last point proves, that the law was aimed at original Segways. Anyhow, the definition of self balancing vehicle still applies to electric unicycles.

  • @handyandy3167
    @handyandy3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Kate.. Loved your video and even spotted places where I have personally ridden my Onewheel Pint. I'm a Brit living in Amsterdam and pround owner of my Onewheel. Despite having a whole year riding competently and safely on the cycle paths in and around Amsterdam, covering a staggering 2,467 kms in a single year without incident or accident, my joyfull pleasure pastime was brought to an end.
    Unfortunatley I was stopped last Sunday (18th) by that One in Ten policemen who impounded my Onewheel Pint saying it was illegal, so I'm certainly not getting any exercise at the moment, good news is I can watch entertaining videos like yours on TH-cam. Thanks : )

    • @kevindb47
      @kevindb47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A that sucks man Amsterdam is the worsted place to right though... Police is there very strict over there. Other places in Netherlands are better..

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope that police officer is sleeping terribly at night knowing he’s stolen your property for harming nobody.

    • @victorvance6279
      @victorvance6279 ปีที่แล้ว

      We call those types of officers "Wouten" for a reason.

  • @ElectricUnicycles
    @ElectricUnicycles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Enjoyed this mini-documentary :-) I would be depressed if I live there.

    • @sharky1854
      @sharky1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I live in the Netherlands and yeah the laws for pev’s are pathetic. The Netherlands just shuts everything without stupid handle bars down and e-scooters need to fit in with crazy laws like max wattage, max wheel size, max weight, 2 types of brakes, flashing lights. Brake lights, speed limits, helmet, a license plate. I ride my e-skateboard and got a fucking ticket for 280 euro’s next time I get caught they can take my board, like wtf i am less of a bargain than all professional cyclists who ride without reflectors lights a bell and who ride way to fast. Or the old people on ebikes who ride to fast and have no balance. Or the souped up moped riders who are also mad for the world because of co2 submissions.

    • @ThomiX0.0
      @ThomiX0.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's hard to ignore.., over regulated, every day again.

  • @ev7178
    @ev7178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Where I live (PA- USA), the rules are all over the place but generally we have positive interactions with officers and park rangers.

  • @philiproche7066
    @philiproche7066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Pity that PLEV are forbidden in the Netherlands. Incredible that they authorized mopped and speedbikes on bike lane while forbidding PLEVs in the same time. Regulations will change but they'll have to fight against the bike lobby. This question of exercise is ridiculous.

    • @BigBoss-gb4cx
      @BigBoss-gb4cx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like car lobby.
      EUCs and PV's hurt the interest of both bike and car manufactures.

    • @znail4675
      @znail4675 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Minicars are even legal on the bike lanes!

  • @lenwhatever4187
    @lenwhatever4187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bicycles here, do not have to be insured yet are still considered vehicles (must follow road rules for vehicles) except on bicycles paths. Electric bicycles are considered: same as bicycles so long as they have less than 500watts and can not go faster than 32km/h. However, the actual laws in this case do not say "bicycle" but only "cycle". The actual title is: MOTOR ASSISTED CYCLE REGULATION. It applies to "cycles" with 3 or fewer wheels at least 350 mm in diameter (no onewheels or skateboards). I think the minimum wheel diameter is considered a safety thing. So it would appear a EUC would be allowable. However, there have also been cases where an electric bicycle rider was fined because, even though the electric bicycle has pedals and meets all the "legal" requirements, the vehicle "looks like" a motorcycle and the pedals "seem" to only be there to satisfy the law rather than for moving the machine. (ie. they work but you would not very far on pedal power compared to a "real" bicycle.)
    The laws are not evenly applied either. The above regulation is provincial, not federal and each municipality has their own rules on top of that (they can ban bicycles even non-electric ones in certain parts or all of their municipality). Locally, I think bicycle paths are considered "off road" but the 32km/h rule still applies (even though many bicycle riders are able to go much faster than that under pedal power).
    Of course the other area of concern is insurance. Basically there is none, even for bicycles which is what makes an EUC attractive. It can be theft proof in a way that any kind of large object, like a bicycle cannot be as it can be taken with you. Of course if you hit someone/thing there is likely no coverage.
    The next step would be to ask if an EUC or scooter could be registered as a motorcycle (there are three categories depending on speed). Of course anything with a motor that can go more than 32km/h would have to be a motorcycle (or used only "off road"). However, in order to be registered/insured, it has to have all the accessories required to make it legal. This means lights at a certain height, aimed a certain way, a license plate holder and the big one would be mechanical brakes. An EUC could not safely use mechanical brakes, could not safely "turn off or disengage" the motors when such brakes are applied. In other words, a new law would have to be made just for EUCs and I would guess the government run insurance company would say an EUC is not safe enough for them to be willing to insure them and even the registration process would not go. On an EUC an "emergency stop" might be considered the same as a fall.
    The problem with a bicycle over 500watts as a low powered motorcycle is the price is automatically double just to meet technical requirements and to show proof of such on import.
    Really, the only way forward at this time (small steps) would be to get them considered "same as a bicycle". Once they have a safety record as a "cycle" and active braking is an accepted method of stopping in all conditions, there may be a path forward from there. Active braking is not yet accepted for full stop in cars yet, maybe the Tesla (or more likely some other electric vehicle manufacture trying to save a dollar on a brake system) will change that. (is putting one's foot down a brake?) There are some municipalities that allow PEVs on their bicycles paths and on the road where there is no bicycle path right now. The sidewalk on the other hand, is a no no for anything other than a wheel chair.

  • @baubelepreux1561
    @baubelepreux1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Despite the restrictions, we are quite lucky in France, UK, US... We can ride !
    The fight must be enlarged to Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

    • @globoiitsuna
      @globoiitsuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard British police confiscate electric scooters though

    • @septicolore1634
      @septicolore1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is forbidden to drive in euc in England

  • @fishwhosmokesopium6645
    @fishwhosmokesopium6645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The guy in the yellow shirt at 2:17 is Bram from the dutch tech channel Bright. haha

  • @bobdebouwer7835
    @bobdebouwer7835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Belgium has just tightened the rules after an increase in accidents. They see more face injuries then with bikes.
    The Netherlands is very euc unfriendly. You almost never see them here. So you certainly draw attention. Police certainly confiscate them sometimes.
    The big problem is the risk when getting into an accident. If it's your fault you are as guilty as someone driving an uninsured car...
    If you hit someone and they end up in hospital all the costs will be on you..
    What I do is just get a cheap second hand wheel and only drive it where there are almost no people. So I go in the woods with my 100 euro Airwheel. I find a remote place to enter the woods. I don't go to the normal parking area where everyone starts their walk. So I stay in the remote quiet parts of the woods.
    If there are people I get of, pick it up and walk past them. Only then do I turn it on again.
    I go in the evening when there's less chance of crossing paths with a ranger...
    Btw the Netherlands is so slow and difficult because of the Stint accident. An electric cart with way too many kids in it was hit by a train... 4 kids died. They still haven't found the cause...

  • @ThomiX0.0
    @ThomiX0.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this video Cate, showing the problem we all have to deal with in the future..
    Over-regulating ( as we should know by ourselves) is caused by fear.
    Not as so many of us may think being the cause of Love ( = Care)
    the same as:
    Over-protectionism done by parents towards their children, is not a sign of love to them, but a sign of fear about themselves..
    In the Netherlands, it seems to me that the traffic safety commissions put their standards higher every year, growing in number and this also screams for lower accidents to happen in traffic.
    This is a reasonable thing, don't you think?
    But watch out for the above made examples..they count for traffic safety commissioners as well.
    Their profession make them fear for higher accidents, as they are responsible for their jobs.
    It has nothing to do with the users of vehicles, they just protect themselves.
    In the 1960's Friedrich A. Hayek wrote in his book 'The Constitution of Liberty' the following:
    "Humiliating the human pride as it may be, we must recognize that the advance (and even the preservation) of civilization are dependent upon a maximum of opportunity for accidents to happen"
    With other words; We cannot grow, if we don't include the risk factor.
    or in easy words; The safest thing we can do...is staying home, and do nothing.
    ( wouldn't that be great for this safety boards?)
    If we just let our brain ponder with the words of Hayek, we then might become aware of the damage of living in an over regulated society.., with a license for every 'stupid' transport you can think of.
    It might look nice and systematic, but there is no life in it left, it is all 'machinery'.
    Nothing 'new' could evolve out of that, it just gets prohibited.
    People are getting annoyed by so many rules, they are not allowed to think out of the box.
    And, this is the reason why countries like that (mostly the north-western countries) are the losers of the future, they cannot cope with that tempo of renewal.
    For fun please look at CB Media in YT, and see how active they are in Thailand with everything motorized..and risky yes, becouse the sky is the limit. :-)
    Do not get annoyed by the gender kind of things please, look technical.
    Have fun, and ponder over..

  • @GeorgeFosberry
    @GeorgeFosberry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an EUC rider and enthusiast I think that's really a shame that our wheels are basically illegal in Netherlands. That nullifies the entire appeal of objectively great approach to urban development and cycling infrastructure there for me.

  • @TechnoArtilleryWSR
    @TechnoArtilleryWSR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @BigBoss-gb4cx
    @BigBoss-gb4cx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's pretty clear that big companies has no interest in supporting it, on the contrary.
    If car companies could ban bikes they would bann them as well.

  • @robertkamer1820
    @robertkamer1820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in the Netherlands, and I have been wanting to buy a Onewheel or UEC for years now. Totally ridiculous that it is forbidden in my country, for serious people at least. SO many little kids on hoverboards, electric scooters or even electric fatbikes (which are also prohibited) causing all kinds of dangerous situations (who I never see getting any trouble) , wheras I, as a responsible adult who can ride a car, is not allowed to use this cool and efficient way of commuting. Infuriating.

  • @BunnyslippersEUC
    @BunnyslippersEUC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great meeting you and Adam. I put the pev protest walk on my channel.

  • @big_petebear8535
    @big_petebear8535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm an American living in the countryside.
    So I hate any form of Nanny State. I firmly believe people should be able to take risks and harm themselves without a "school teacher" taking their toys. We are adults after all.
    However I've met people from certain countries where the Government beurocacy is involved in every aspect of life. In those society's it is hard to get people to take responsibility for their own safety and the safety of others without the threat of Government force.
    Some of the oldest generations here in America are like that. Always looking for external solutions to internal problems.
    That said, I think PEV's are an inevitable reality of the future everywhere. It's only a matter of time before they're as common as bikes.

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t agree more. I just do not understand this compulsive need to control what and how other people enjoy themselves so long as they don’t harm anyone else.

    • @PavelUrubcik
      @PavelUrubcik ปีที่แล้ว

      It's about safety to all participants of the traffic.

  • @yungxama1606
    @yungxama1606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's ridiculous that a lot of these electric vehicles are just straightout forbidden when it could be so easy to regulate them with insurances or lincences. These vehicles have been around for atleast 5 years now and the call for clear regulations still hasn't been taken yet. Its getting shameful tbh looking how the rest of the world is progressing and the Netherlands is just living in the past....

    • @familytvbox5218
      @familytvbox5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't understand how EUC is different from electric bicycle... Just because the people in government are stupid and can't learn to ride it?

    • @elfrank333
      @elfrank333 ปีที่แล้ว

      and keep making the rich that sell ensurens and licenses more rich ? no i dont want a vigilante goverment, i want freedom!

  • @rcgldr
    @rcgldr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've read that some cops in Vancouver are issuing nearly $600 tickets for not having insurance if riding an EUC on the street (including bike lane). Are they doing that for e-bikes also? Riding on sidewalk fine is about $80, which could lead some to ride EUC's on sidewalks.

  • @micro-mobilityinclearlaket9041
    @micro-mobilityinclearlaket9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a dream that someday riders will ride together in harmony without regard to powertrain, number of wheels or legs, or optional seat and handlebars.

  • @flitsies
    @flitsies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OK the problem I see with countries that keep these banned is the lack of organisation with those who ride.
    What is needed to gather interest is to get more riders that behave in a positive way.
    Basically lots of pev clubs, if there were lots of clubs with rules and organised collective demonstrations the govt would not be able to ignore the will of the people.
    It's All very well having the cops ignore you and I dear say even some of them would love to use them, but without that responsible attribute there is nothing for the govt to latch on to in order to legalise.
    We have the same problem in the UK and just by watching what is going on you can see the govt simply does not know what to do, that's where responsibly organised clubs come in.
    Take over a supermarket car park with the permission of the supermarket when they are closed or some other large place, teach people to ride safely and good especially the EUC get people involved, not just the kids, show the older generation they can ride safely with the use of equipment ie wrist guards knee pads elbow pads maybe even shin guards.
    With out this type of positive approach it will be difficult to convince the authorities of the positive impact as they simply cannot see or understand.
    It's all very well selling these things, but look what happened with the hover board.
    So all the places that sell these things and just people in general need to set up public clubs to gather interest.
    It needs as always a few people on a mission who promotes safety care togetherness, joy and above all effective lobbying who can get politicians on these rides, the younger ones anyway to start with and to show them the practicality of these devices in everyday use.

    • @sharky1854
      @sharky1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good ideas

  • @robm425
    @robm425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Massachusetts in USA, It really depends on where I ride but for the most part I have only one area where I get a hard time for riding my eskate from park rangers. Most are cool and tell me not to ride motorized vehicles, and then I immediately point out the road racer flying by pedestrians at 20-25mph, something I don't do on any path. Boston as a city has some great paths seems friendly when I ride there. Northeast winters suck though for year round riding
    Cops were cool when I was hit by a car, I was labeled as pedestrian, but whatever.

  • @sharky1854
    @sharky1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the release date off this video it seemed like the government was going in the positive direction but that turned around and now its going nowhere there is a registration frame for pev’s but they didn’t approve it and the government wont allow any vehicles without handle bars. And even e-scooters need to for fill crazy rules.

  • @sharky1854
    @sharky1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I live in the Netherlands and yeah the laws for pev’s are pathetic. The Netherlands just shuts everything without stupid handle bars down and e-scooters need to fit in with crazy laws like max wattage, max wheel size, max weight, 2 types of brakes, flashing lights. Brake lights, speed limits, helmet, a license plate. I ride my e-skateboard and got a fucking ticket for 280 euro’s next time I get caught they can take my board, like wtf i am less of a bargain than all professional cyclists who ride without reflectors lights a bell and who ride way to fast. Or the old people on ebikes who ride to fast and have no balance. Or the souped up moped riders who are also mad for the world because of co2 submissions.

    • @forcews
      @forcews ปีที่แล้ว

      I would install special short circuit device if board would be stolen or confiscated(still stealing from my view) then just activate anti theft and battery+controller burns down. I own Inokim OX and i have that device installed, can be activated by long range VHF radio signal.

  • @pacochawa2746
    @pacochawa2746 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im glad I left...it all whent to shit. So sad. It was the place to be in the 90s.

  • @AfeezKayeRIDES
    @AfeezKayeRIDES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this video. Clear and concise. Subscribed for sure 👍🏼

  • @mr_wrongway
    @mr_wrongway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First like first comment!!!

  • @JohnEnergy2012
    @JohnEnergy2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they ever allow it, speed would be limited to 20kmh… removing all the fun.

    • @peterwouters2364
      @peterwouters2364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Especially when you know people are allowed to ride 30+ km/h on their bicycles which are even not electric ones !

    • @kevinorghidan4384
      @kevinorghidan4384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@peterwouters2364 right, I can ride my bicycle to a top speed of 32/35 km/h, I won't buy an electric bike that goes just 25 km/h, I'll do my custom ebike 1500w haha 60-65 km/h top speed, but I'll ride at just 30 for safety

  • @manishkumartripathi1004
    @manishkumartripathi1004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am Indian expat, I would like to purchase e scooter, shall i go ahead to buy it or i shall stop thinking. Do i need to check with police first ?

  • @oddtechman
    @oddtechman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome first video Kate :) nicely done and really clear :) Thanks for sharing

  • @joshua10172
    @joshua10172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m from Canada. Surrey BC to be more precise. No laws against EUCs here. Unless I’m just too fast for them to catch me. ;) hehe
    But I see police all the time and they don’t give me a second look. I’m sure if we keep ‘respect’ part of the game then we’ll enjoy EUCs for a long time yet to come.

  • @SolarizeYourLife
    @SolarizeYourLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But also the responsibility needs to fall with the users, to stay at or below 40 km/h!!! Just because these wheels can go upto 80 km/m does not mean you are allowed to go faster than 40...

  • @nomadmusk
    @nomadmusk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    any updates?

  • @idowheelie8598
    @idowheelie8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting to see how this will all turn out I personally think EUC are the future.
    But a big part of that is how the community behaves today so pad up wear helmets stay safe.

  • @OakwoIf
    @OakwoIf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope Canada (and the provinces) will be wise in its future legislation. I believe it'll come down to how organised the EUC community can be in order to promote safety at the time regulations are made. It can go along with required licenses and classes in order to access public networks...but the worst thing that can happen is a blanket ban or limitation at 15-20km/h.

    • @familytvbox5218
      @familytvbox5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to live in Ottawa for couple of years - never seen a single EUC rider there...
      Canada as a country already has way too much regulations, like you not allowed to have washing machine in many apartments over the country, and some other crazy things.
      Plus the weather in Canada is horrible in most places. You have very little of sunny days per year.
      The only good thing about Canada is that you have American Costco. God I just love Costco!

    • @jeffreytong
      @jeffreytong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@familytvbox5218 There are lots of PEVs in Ottawa now, including EUCs.

  • @thewheeldalorian2807
    @thewheeldalorian2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting and funny video! Good job😁

    • @monocat.1011
      @monocat.1011  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much!♥️

  • @heddy5851
    @heddy5851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my area, electric unicycles are legally classified as Personal Electric Vehicles (PEV). PEVs here are given mostly the same rights as bicycles, but the legal speed limit for PEVs is 20 mph.
    That speed limit is disappointing considering the e-bike speed limit of 28 mph (28 mph limit only applies to the motor, so ebikes can motor up to 28 mph then use your muscles to pedal even faster!).
    Why not have the same speed limit for e-bikes and PEVs?
    I want to keep up with traffic at up to 40 mph, but that is not legal unless the laws change, so when going fast I am risking police pulling me over. It could be legal to go higher speeds if registered as a motorcycle or moped, but there is no way to get an electric unicycle registered because they don't have a VIN and probably don't meet other requirements as well (like number of wheels lol).

  • @beatnik1855
    @beatnik1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does everyone ship the pev or euc separately when flying? Perhaps super obvious like no where to put it? Is that all?

    • @ThiccusDiccus
      @ThiccusDiccus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Battery capacity. A maximum of 100 Wh is allowed on planes, sometimes even if a PEV is maximum 100 Wh it is not allowed.

    • @beatnik1855
      @beatnik1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThiccusDiccus mobility scooters have larger batteries then 100wh. That doesn't make sense

    • @ThiccusDiccus
      @ThiccusDiccus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beatnik1855Mobility scooters are necessary for the person to stay mobile, therefore necessary. They have a medical reason to use it. These are exceptions.
      For example, guide dogs are allowed in animal/dog forbidden areas, not normal dogs.
      PEVs are not necessary, therefore not allowed. Also, PEVs lack the certifications mobility scooters have.

    • @beatnik1855
      @beatnik1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThiccusDiccus allowing a helper dog in public areas hurts no one except the janitor. What certification does a mobility scooter have that is so special? They have huge batteries. Are u sure the max battery size isn't for items in the luggage area. A battery on your person has nearly zero risk since u r there to deal with it if req

    • @ThiccusDiccus
      @ThiccusDiccus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beatnik1855 The only thing I know is that they won't take unnecessary risks. PEVs have caught fire and exploded in homes, I'm sure they don't want that happening in an airplane. High battery capacity items need to be labelled correctly and shipped with care, this is only possible through normal shipping, UPS, DHL, FedEx, etc.
      SAS, Ryanair, etc will not do that.
      Mobility scooters have existed far longer and have standards they have to follow. PEVs have mostly no standards in comparison.

  • @kevinfuenzalidapugin8817
    @kevinfuenzalidapugin8817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im from holland and just got a dualtron victor riding on car streets :p

  • @markifi
    @markifi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    have the onewheel rider run out of battery?

  • @JM-ml3ch
    @JM-ml3ch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    isn't an ebike more dangerous than an escooter?

  • @garyandpattyworley6832
    @garyandpattyworley6832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! My adult daughters love PEV’s and it’s awesome to hear a true female enthusiast like them being represented. We see it more and more women who take the time to try are falling in love with them. Subscribed

    • @ek-nz
      @ek-nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second this

  • @doraemon5990
    @doraemon5990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You went to the places I grew up in! :)
    Also, I got an e-skateboard, so it's less suspicious. Can't believe it's almost 2023 and still illegal.

  • @DavidThomas-fb8bq
    @DavidThomas-fb8bq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same as the UK, but I use mine in the early hours to go to work.

  • @steeldriver5338
    @steeldriver5338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fact that you need permission to protest, and that the government gets to decide the aspects of said protest, amazes me. If you can't protest without permission, are you really free?
    I would've pressured the group to ride anyway.

    • @jeffreytong
      @jeffreytong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This isn't really as problematic as it sounds. It means having police escort to facilitate any temporary road closures and reduces chances of confrontation with bystanders/motorists.

    • @ThomiX0.0
      @ThomiX0.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreytong , the way to develop new ways for transport, means also freedom to choose..which fits best to you.
      This is strictly regulated in the Netherlands, and given the reason of a safer traffic.
      How come, you yourself has no responsibility and valuable answers for that, as you are the driver yourself??
      The regulatory system will choose, not Jeffrey Tong anymore, 'because 'we' don't trust him to do so..'
      So, be safe Jeffrey, stay home.

  • @flitsies
    @flitsies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I'm wondering how the wheels were transported, I get the impression they went on the plane in boxes.
    If so did you declare they were battery powered and did you have any issues with the airline about the batteries.
    I am of the impression airline's won't allow battery powered devices like these on planes.
    I have seen a few videos of people taking their wheel to other countries but, it seems to me that perhaps they are not declaring that they are battery powered devices.

    • @monocat.1011
      @monocat.1011  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are right, airlines usually allow only around 160Wh of batteries per customer. We shipped the wheels separately with shipping companies to our destination in their original boxes and we declared that there are batteries inside the boxes :)

    • @flitsies
      @flitsies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monocat.1011 That's good to know, but wouldn't that have meant them being shipped by sea rather than air, so the planning must have taken a bit to ensure they were available when you got there.
      Unless they they actually just put them on an alternative plane.
      Perhaps they shipped them by train, not every country is as paranoid as the UK about PEVs.
      In the UK now you can't even take them on public transport not allowed.

  • @cipriandita6406
    @cipriandita6406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had 2 electric bikes in the last 5 years, none of them was insured in any way. The whole insurance thing is crap, 'cause nobody ever stops you to check, lol

    • @cipriandita6406
      @cipriandita6406 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, I just googled the latest news about it, and e-bikes don't need to be registered or insured... so it's all just a technicality of "what is considered a vehicle". I can legally ride my speed skates at around 30km/h in any town, but if I put some sort of battery on it the law can't tell what it is. Hope they fix this soon, 'cause I'd LOVE to get one of those one wheeled bois

  • @larsbarsthe4441
    @larsbarsthe4441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice first video kate! I see a lot of me 😅

    • @monocat.1011
      @monocat.1011  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That will not be the Lars-t time you will see yourself :P

  • @accelgamerhd4954
    @accelgamerhd4954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man the music is really good. I honestly don't see the problem with euc.

  • @datonernegen
    @datonernegen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious, what does emergency braking look like? Is it even possible?

  • @elinavance3476
    @elinavance3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it seems like the least amount of stress with the police while somewhat having a fun ride, is riding a tuned ebike...
    hub motor electric skateboards can also be steahlty.
    these vehicles are too good for the politicans- many people would stop riding the bus and some would use their car less. (too much range, too much fun, too practical)

  • @Roskellan
    @Roskellan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video on a very topical subject.

  • @REXFORGT
    @REXFORGT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legalize electric scooters and other safe PEVs, but the biggest mistake a country can do is legalize rental electric scooters.

  • @kevinorghidan4384
    @kevinorghidan4384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:57 that guy has a Portugal 🇵🇹 flag? That's cool,born in Romania 🇷🇴 and live in Portugal for 7 years, still don't know much about the laws in here about electric bikes, one wheel, e scooters etc.

  • @ek-nz
    @ek-nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most informative video I’ve seen on the topic!

  • @zumezoom9593
    @zumezoom9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm kinda old school. I prefer exerting energy riding a bike. I might consider a pedal assist in the future but I don't think I would survive on these pv... But they do look fun... Hmmm maybe an escooter

  • @renelr12
    @renelr12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish these authorities would actually tackle REAL crime rather than curtailing the freedoms of lawful peaceful citizens who are also helping the planet! I was thoroughly disgusted to hear about how one dutch rider had his wheel impounded! As they say "the more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the institution!"

  • @apb64
    @apb64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Если бы в Голландии заменили велосипеды на моноколеса и власти всячески приветствовали бы это дело, то во-первых, этих ужасных велосипедных стоянок бы не было, а во-вторых, колеса занимают намного меньше места на дороге. Колеса ведь не оставляют на улицах, их в помещение заносят!

  • @flowerpower5800
    @flowerpower5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super monocat good job 🤗

  • @Shapshapper
    @Shapshapper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almost 3 years later and the situation has not changed 😢

    • @TheInchii
      @TheInchii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't it that you can drive escooter like Ninebot from Segway where you have to push with feet and then you can drive still legally? I just found info on official government site that it's possible if it's not faster than 25km/h.
      Elektrische step met trapondersteuning U moet zelf steppen Ja.
      Regels voor gebruik alle elektrische steps
      Een e-step mag niet harder dan 25 kilometer per uur.
      U heeft geen rijbewijs nodig.
      U hoeft geen kenteken aan te vragen.
      U hoeft geen helm op.
      U moet op het fietspad of fiets/bromfietspad rijden.
      U moet zoveel mogelijk rechts rijden.
      U mag niet op de stoep rijden.
      U mag geen elektrische apparaten vasthouden op de e-step. Handsfree bellen en muziek luisteren mag wel.
      U mag de weg niet op onder invloed van alcohol, drugs en sommige medicijnen.
      Voor elektrische step met trapondersteuning gelden dezelfde regels als voor een elektrische fiets.

  • @MurfatlarAII0
    @MurfatlarAII0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve documented a bit and I think it is illegal in Germany as well right ? 🇩🇪
    I find this not correct because there are a lot of normal people like me who won’t border the others and I would drive it responsibly…
    Is it illegal in Germany ? 🇩🇪

  • @vincentkim2721
    @vincentkim2721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow ^^* You ride well. Now you know the basics of Dol's form. If you try harder, you will ride very well.^^

  • @danilkutny
    @danilkutny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:00 “people will became lazy”. This is horrifying, they really look at people as a resource to manage, rather than free individuals 🤮

  • @EUCLimburg
    @EUCLimburg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nicely done

  • @Micksoffthings
    @Micksoffthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it weird to join the protest without a (p)(l)ev ?

    • @monocat.1011
      @monocat.1011  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not at all. I also went without one so I could do the filming and I saw a couple of others without pevs as well. The more people at the protest the better ! :)

  • @hmhama782
    @hmhama782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a shame this unwillingness to regulate it properly from the political side. Instead suppress and ignorance is the common rule.

  • @jemdejager
    @jemdejager 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still no progress… I live in The Netherlands.

  • @Sabakinno
    @Sabakinno 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are You from?

  • @thefightfarm5692
    @thefightfarm5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dont understand why its not legal to ride it but u have stores like media market selling it haha thats a bit weird for me and also ebikes are legal and believe me ebikes are the worse

  • @DIVA-MC-7
    @DIVA-MC-7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok nice and interesting vidéo, i can sense du "technical / administrative" duet coming. I see your style is ASMR instructive PEV vidéos, i like it more than i would have thought and ended up watching the whole vidéo.

  • @nativeme2143
    @nativeme2143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to pay insurance just to feel safe and to legalize EUC ride. No problem for me.

    • @badasslifestylee
      @badasslifestylee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look at the point that we have arrived as human beings, needing a paid piece of paper to feel safe 🤦‍♂️

    • @nativeme2143
      @nativeme2143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@badasslifestylee Responsible would be better word than safe.

    • @wanderingronin305
      @wanderingronin305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So dumb people who ride Bycicles don't have insurance that's tens of thousands

  • @dimitri877
    @dimitri877 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome to NL, where even the thing we are best known for isn't even really legal..

  • @Arthur-zz5cu
    @Arthur-zz5cu ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait!
    You cannot ride a vehicle without insurance, but an EUC is not a vehicle?
    So what's the problem? You're not riding a vehicle.

  • @KaiSosceles
    @KaiSosceles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If police are concerned that EUCs will make for lazy people, they should look into these things people commute with where they sit on cushioned seats in temperature controlled environments...cars. The laziest and most dangerous way to travel in the world.

  • @apb64
    @apb64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Был приятно удивлен, как же мы в России все-таки хорошо живем!

  • @grb1969
    @grb1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Private corporate lobbyists write laws, not politicians. If the Insurance and Finance Sectors could make money from the monopolization of scooter rentals and automotive sales, which is effectively the privatization of the public commons, then why would they want to allow the privatization of vehicles that don't require neoliberal systems of income and wealth extraction (they don't). There is simply too much money being made by grift to allow PEVs or EUCs to disrupt the inefficiency of the capitalist model of forced dependency upon commodities whose asset prices and insurance rates that can be artificially inflated and imposed on a "captured" population. The creation of a "free markets" has always been an act of violence that threatens the owners of wealth (or debt), which is why 40% of USA economic activity occurs outside of Institutional Intermediation... which is why digital currencies are so attractive to the parasitic elites.

    • @manhattanvi
      @manhattanvi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George Berven Based

  • @LightCrasher
    @LightCrasher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thing that electric vehicles, from cars to skateboards should only be alowed in countries wich can propery recycle them when they die, otherwise they do much more harm then good to ecology. But still, its worth it to replace cars in most of cases since its a real overkill to drive a 1,5 tonn box of metal and plastic at 60 km\h just to make it through around 10-20 km whith all these people walking around. The only real problem is winter. It gets difficult even for cars to get around due to weather conditions alone, but still, haveing electric vehicles and bikes around in masses in warmer seasons is much safer option for people at least.

  • @Franciscogreenday1
    @Franciscogreenday1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉✌🏻

  • @rhalfik
    @rhalfik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ban it and then think approach. Not very smart.

  • @FabioMontefuscolo
    @FabioMontefuscolo ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, makes sense. E-bikes are worse than these things, and they are still allowed. Why not to allow these ... What should be reduced is the speed limit for all vehicles in the bike lane.

  • @TERRANcmb
    @TERRANcmb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like the main issue of obstruction to legalization in the Netherlands may be how can the government monetize the use of these vehicles in terms of revenue.

  • @Samssara
    @Samssara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Insta sub ❤️

  • @Kay0Bot
    @Kay0Bot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only way to make changes to a law you disagree with is to contribute to the campaign of elected officials... sad but true. How politics works in any country.

    • @familytvbox5218
      @familytvbox5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need some brave EUC rider to spill a kerosene on himself and burn near government building.

    • @sharky1854
      @sharky1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But most bigger and more reliable political parties are against pev’s and I’m not gonna vote on some shitty 1 person party that just opposes everything the government does.

  • @ronniliechti7594
    @ronniliechti7594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so tired of stupid laws that removes the fun. seems so stupid instead of meeting people and get some ground rules about pev's

  • @SkylerLinux
    @SkylerLinux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last Meter use

  • @vid8442
    @vid8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is just absolutely ridiculous. Mopeds are allowed, but much smaller, safer, slower ones are banned. Are they ok in their heads?

    • @bobdebouwer7835
      @bobdebouwer7835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smaller isnt always safer. The tiny wheels of steps can hit a bump.

    • @vid8442
      @vid8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobdebouwer7835 euc wheels are 22 inches, ebikes have 27.5 inches, how are they smaller?

    • @bobdebouwer7835
      @bobdebouwer7835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vid8442 those little steps can have tiny wheels, hoverboards too.
      Tiny wheels are one if you look ahead and drive carefully.
      But unfortunately there are too many idiots.
      Euc start at 14 inch.

    • @vid8442
      @vid8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobdebouwer7835 i ride 20 inch wheel, how is it morr dangerous than a moped? How is ebike more dangerous than moped? That doesn't make any sense.

  • @hotspot-hutspot
    @hotspot-hutspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏽

  • @iskarik5938
    @iskarik5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well... These netherlansian protestors should learn to organize protests from Ukrainians ;) Those "officials" would act much faster if you'd protest the ukrainan way.

  • @GhostDragon-y7o
    @GhostDragon-y7o ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty po ryski chto li govorish?

  • @roundishwhale
    @roundishwhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First!

    • @mr_wrongway
      @mr_wrongway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congratulations! You are whalecome

    • @DIVA-MC-7
      @DIVA-MC-7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cruel To adam xD but gg

  • @Not_Evil_
    @Not_Evil_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Netherlands did a big L with that

  • @Ag3nt0fCha0s
    @Ag3nt0fCha0s ปีที่แล้ว

    3 ton electric battery fire hazard suv? Great!
    Single wheel! Bad.

  • @cooledcannon
    @cooledcannon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kate are you Polish?

  • @threeohm
    @threeohm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EUC cats so hot right now! :-)

  • @changer1285
    @changer1285 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have just ridden Anyway

  • @kua4464
    @kua4464 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    น่ารักจังเลยครับ

  • @mrgamer22222
    @mrgamer22222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Netherlands is the worse country when it comes to these electric vehicles and I hate it

  • @froghold2731
    @froghold2731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    literally the first day i got my escooter and was riding with my friend behind (also on another escooter) a fly entered my eye and i closed my eyes trying to stop and smashed into the mirror of a car and flew a good 2 meters in the air, e-veihicles are dangerous

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No more dangerous than anything else. You have to pay attention. Wear sunglasses.

    • @markifi
      @markifi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      couldn't have been your skill level, the speed you picked for that, or lack of glasses. no. it's the scooter that's to blame.

  • @Arthur-zz5cu
    @Arthur-zz5cu ปีที่แล้ว

    CommutING.
    You are using the language of the INGvi, Inglish.