You guys at Sweetwater are the best in the industry. There's no contest. Real Musicians selling to other real musicians. It doesn't get less corporate than that. When I deal with your reps I feel like a human being rather than a customer. It's great
A very worthwhile vid. Especially as I record live drums always but apartment living has its disadvantages. But mainly leaving these set up for demos and spontaneous inspiration keeps the juices flowing. Sometimes you just want to put the idea down “live” even when you’re not ready for a live drum session… 👍🏽
The Roland Td27 was the BEST investment ive ever made in my entire life, Adding a new Kick and some extra thin cymbals a Czarcie kypoto pedal and it is EPIC.
What a GREAT and helpful video. I wish they'd put a link to the deep dives for each kit in the description so we could easily hear them and learn more.
Folks talking about “not hearing how it sounds” are trippin. An e kit sounds like 1000 different ways, and can sound how you want by adding your own samples
Hello, Future Sounds! You can indeed use electronic drums to trigger drum software instruments so long as the drum module itself supports MIDI, either via USB or via a 5 pin MIDI jack. In the latter situation (only a five pin MIDI jack), you'll need to have either a MIDI interface or a MIDI input on an audio interface. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Nick can you put a video out showing best practice using an e-Kit with a mixer live? I have the Roland 507 kit, Mackie powered speakers -212, just doesn’t sound very good. I was told to pickup a small board and add more compression and delay? I haven’t yet:(
Im trying to find an e kit specifically for home recording, all focus on the feel and build quality and the samples can be dogshit because ill just use midi output and vsts.
Swap out the first kit with the Alesis Nitro. I love Roland, but the Nitro just offers so much more at the same price point. I'd also swap the Yamaha kit for the Roland TD-17KV. Again, similar price but much more offered. If I had crazy cash, I'd go with that Pearl Mimic Pro, it's an insanely powerful drum module.
My biggest concern is playing response. I got a cheap kit (Donner) and it only picks up about 60% of anything I play. 16th notes are out of the question.
I’ve been researching my first electronic kit due to noise limitations where I live. I’ve heard about converting acoustic sets to electronic . Have you done this? I have no idea how to do it.
Hey, kernelxsanders. Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately there isn’t one with that many inputs. You will need to use two modules and connect those outs to an interface or mixer. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Hey, thelonwolf91. Thanks so much for your interest. You would need an amp or headphones. Thanks again. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
I have enough $ to get a decent mid range set, but my problem is I need one thats very compact. I dont have that much room in my space. any recommendations for a compact midrange one? preferably one that can be folded up.
Hey, Cory. Thanks for reaching out. Yup. Sure does. It has an 1/8” aux input for that purpose. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@@VictorCrees niinkin voi kirjoittaa joo, tai että onko niistä 2pox rummuista mihinkään, se on kato silleen että enkku ei oo mun ykköskieli niin kirjottaa miten osaa ja tulee jotenkin ymmärretyx, vai mitä mieltä olet?
I will go for the Alesis Command Mesh thank you for the recommendation this video was the push my parents will need to finally let me buy a drum kit (even thou I will pay for it)
I have a Yamaha DD-75 but I am thinking about get full electric drum kit that I can afford. I don't think it's going to be a Roland kit or Alesis idk if it's going to be Yamaha or Simmons. It's whatever I can afford. And if I can't be able to afford a decent electric kit, then I'm staying with my Yamaha DD-75
Thumbs down for leaving out two main factors. One, still no idea of price range. Second, still no idea of the sounds of each. The only thing explained is the components.
I've had it for three months. Its awesome! And the new digital hh will make it complete. Ordered it as soon as it was announced;) Had the td50kvx, but the toms and crashes on this thing is what I was missing. No hotspots and unbeatable feel. With sd3 as vst these vad-kits are the best on the market. By far.
Reading about cymbal choke problems with Alesis kits and toontracks SD3 and EZD products, so much were the feature is just disabled, I’m wanting to pickup an alesis mesh since they don’t sell TourTech in the states but I would like to use the choke feature with my toontracks products
Hey, Jake. Thanks for your interest. Both the Yamaha DTX and Roland TD27 and up are stellar for recording. Hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Great video!……..😎👍 So in reality,…. “ the sky’s the limit”!! At a persons creativity in customizing his or her own kit……….. which is pretty sweet I must say. 👀😎👍👏✌️🇨🇦 #ThanksforyourcontinuedSupport
Love this! Can you guys do a drum mic > interface > whatever comes next for dummies soon, please? I know I need mics and stuff, but terms like preamps and compression and ins and outs and all that is just over my head and there is no videos out there that really just puts things into laymen’s terms.
Ordered my Roland TD-17KV from Sweetwater almost a year ago. I've used it on a bunch of freelance remote session work, countless private lessons, and on a solo EP I released last fall. It's wildly exceeded my expectations!
I have a donner ded-200 kit 4 cymbal one I love it it’s great it’s a great quality stand and kit the reason why it’s cheap and still is worth it with this 100% is that it has a really really crappy module has some nice kick sounds but everything else sounds crappy but the toms and snare are great! Quality nice triggering I guess but they are very small that’s the only downside of them but if you were to upgrade the model if you can do that and get expensive electric drum software like what I’m going to do it’s will probably be an amazing kit that just has small toms and snare lol also the kick pad supports a double bass pedal which I’m also getting the official ded video of them demonstrating the kit they have a double pedal on it😈
let your son play what he wants, there no proper way to start. Try the command pro, don't sound like your son needs all the crazy features that the 7000 TD50 has. Lol I'll say, there's nothing more amusing to me seeing kids get completely spoiled with something they're not even deciding for themselves. You don't need the best out of the gate
Hi, Dion! Our team would be glad to look into this for you. When you have a moment, please give us a call at (800) 222-4700 or email us at sales@sweetwater.com. Thanks for the message!
I love how all these kits try to get "as close" to a acoustic kit, while being an electronic. Clearly shows how much better acoustic or. (I understand people who can not buy them cause of the price/sound etc. but you also cant deny that they're better)
I’m at an intermediate level I would say, but live an apartment now a days so it’s been a while. Really don’t know what to get. Want to keep that natural feel and maintain the option to add on and remove parts as necessary
also depends on the building. Some have concrete floors and walls. Newer building are poorly constructed often only drywall and insulation between apartments. Iv'e been in some beautiful building that look great but you can hear people snoring in the other apartment.
You could have plugged them in. It would be nice to actually compare them. Also what the F is a sales engineer? That's some buzz word sales bs there if ever I heard it. I hate that dodgy nonsense.
You'd think a video claiming to help people choose an electronic kit on ANY budget, that it would actually cover ANY budget but it doesn't. Can't afford a 700-800 dollar kit on 700 dollars a fortnight.
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I think if you're going to outline kits for different budgets, it would be very helpful to mention those actual budgets
Totally but the prices change all the time
You’d think a video outlining which electronic drum kits are good would include how the electronic drum kits sound.
Not necessary.
Exactly...
meh, more important is how it plays, sounds, there are too many good options
they sound the way the digital kit youre using sounds. i agree tho he should have talked/showcased sensitivity
Freaking right?
It would have been really nice if we also could have heard what those drumset sounded like
they're electronic... Sound is really the last of your worries seeing as it's computer generated haha
Yeah I had the same question
You can...just youtube each one individually.
Not at important as you think it is.
@@BloodsCaress you'd be surprised how good the top modules are getting
Wow thanks for actually playing them so I could hear how realistic they are. Really appreciate that.
Bruh. He literally said they each have tens of different sound settings. He played each of them without any setting in order to grade them all fairly.
You guys at Sweetwater are the best in the industry. There's no contest. Real Musicians selling to other real musicians. It doesn't get less corporate than that. When I deal with your reps I feel like a human being rather than a customer. It's great
Up next, I’ll review electric guitars that aren’t plugged in…..
A very worthwhile vid. Especially as I record live drums always but apartment living has its disadvantages. But mainly leaving these set up for demos and spontaneous inspiration keeps the juices flowing. Sometimes you just want to put the idea down “live” even when you’re not ready for a live drum session… 👍🏽
I literally watch these videos because I love Nick so much. I don’t know what it is. He has such a nice voice, and great presence on screen.
Woo! From a guitarist looking to get a v drum set at some point, this helps to understand what I'm looking for. Sweetwater really is the best!
Sweetwater da goat
don't buy any of these, buy an alesis nitro mesh, I have one it was like 375, pretty cool
@@tea2920pardon me I was interested in checking out the nitro kit and am curious to ask you how your kit is holding up?
My budget is "as cheap as they come"
I've read reviews, the Nitro is too small for an adult. I'd like a nice adult starter set.
Go Titan 50 then
The Roland Td27 was the BEST investment ive ever made in my entire life, Adding a new Kick and some extra thin cymbals a Czarcie kypoto pedal and it is EPIC.
I wish it was out when I got my TD17. I got the Pearl Mimic to replace the module.
What an awesome surprise having NDV present this video! One of my fave drummers ever, and one of his solo album tracks was our wedding song!
What a GREAT and helpful video. I wish they'd put a link to the deep dives for each kit in the description so we could easily hear them and learn more.
Folks talking about “not hearing how it sounds” are trippin. An e kit sounds like 1000 different ways, and can sound how you want by adding your own samples
Nick d Virgilio gives this thorough review on all drum related specs, ive always loved how he enlightens most nitty gritty gear stuff
thank you . i love how you spend time and brake down each kit
So then with electronic drums I could technically connect them to Logic and use logic’s built in drum library’s, or 3rd party plugins?
Hello, Future Sounds! You can indeed use electronic drums to trigger drum software instruments so long as the drum module itself supports MIDI, either via USB or via a 5 pin MIDI jack. In the latter situation (only a five pin MIDI jack), you'll need to have either a MIDI interface or a MIDI input on an audio interface.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Nick can you put a video out showing best practice using an e-Kit with a mixer live? I have the Roland 507 kit, Mackie powered speakers -212, just doesn’t sound very good. I was told to pickup a small board and add more compression and delay?
I haven’t yet:(
Im trying to find an e kit specifically for home recording, all focus on the feel and build quality and the samples can be dogshit because ill just use midi output and vsts.
same. i think i might go with the nitro mesh.
Great Video Nick thanks
really good buying advice there. plain and simple. From low priced kit-high end kit. really informative.
I've never enjoyed an infomercial this much before...
Efnote electronics drums are amazing!
you would think they would including and pricing
Pretty daunting for a new drummer, I must say. Lots to learn.
Hey Sweetwater. I like your drums, but the problem is its too expensive can you decrease the price?
Which of these sets might offer the best sounds for Jazz? thanks...
What do they sound like?
Nick,
could you make a video on all the ways to customize the sounds of the td-27kv. I am sure alot people would be interested
Swap out the first kit with the Alesis Nitro. I love Roland, but the Nitro just offers so much more at the same price point. I'd also swap the Yamaha kit for the Roland TD-17KV. Again, similar price but much more offered. If I had crazy cash, I'd go with that Pearl Mimic Pro, it's an insanely powerful drum module.
I personally won't agree with Roland > Yamaha, I personally preffer Yamaha snare + cymbals, and module seems better to me.
So beautiful. One of my dream that I couldn't afford. Here in Philippines its not easy to afford because it's so expensive..
Prices please!
My biggest concern is playing response. I got a cheap kit (Donner) and it only picks up about 60% of anything I play. 16th notes are out of the question.
Like strumming electric guitar - unplugged. Dropped ball on that aspect.
TD27 or Gewa g9
I’ve been researching my first electronic kit due to noise limitations where I live. I’ve heard about converting acoustic sets to electronic . Have you done this? I have no idea how to do it.
Any brains that have more than 16 inputs? Or is there a way to daisy chain brains/midi interfaces for extra large kits?
Hey, kernelxsanders. Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately there isn’t one with that many inputs. You will need to use two modules and connect those outs to an interface or mixer.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Awesome video! Thanks for laying it out!
Nick is a fucking AWESOME drummer. It's so mad seeing him doing sales stuff, I wonder how many people know his work with Spock's Beard!!
For electric drums, do they need to be plugged into an amp? Like a guitar or bass they gotta be hooked to an amp, is that the same case?
Hey, thelonwolf91. Thanks so much for your interest. You would need an amp or headphones.
Thanks again.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Great video, very clear and interesting, thank you!
I have a TD 4kp and have been looking at a TD 17kv but want to see what y'all suggest I should get
I have the Td17kvx and it is awesome! It feels great to play, and it sounds good out of the box! I highly recommend it.
Thanks dad! This is cool, really cool! Rad. This is out it sounds without noise. Deuche
I have the roland td 1k and the cymbals ring from the vibration of the toms. Really wish they could fix that
I have enough $ to get a decent mid range set, but my problem is I need one thats very compact. I dont have that much room in my space. any recommendations for a compact midrange one? preferably one that can be folded up.
Thank you for sharing Sweetwater!
Does the Alesis also have an input to play music through so I could play along with songs?
Hey, Cory. Thanks for reaching out.
Yup. Sure does. It has an 1/8” aux input for that purpose.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
What about the 2box drums, are they any good?
@@VictorCrees niinkin voi kirjoittaa joo, tai että onko niistä 2pox rummuista mihinkään, se on kato silleen että enkku ei oo mun ykköskieli niin kirjottaa miten osaa ja tulee jotenkin ymmärretyx, vai mitä mieltä olet?
I will go for the Alesis Command Mesh thank you for the recommendation this video was the push my parents will need to finally let me buy a drum kit (even thou I will pay for it)
Of _course_ "gushy" is a word. You just said it!
Love how no prices were mentioned
No sound no prices all that varies widely I guess. Just move up or down in price.
I have a Yamaha DD-75 but I am thinking about get full electric drum kit that I can afford. I don't think it's going to be a Roland kit or Alesis idk if it's going to be Yamaha or Simmons. It's whatever I can afford. And if I can't be able to afford a decent electric kit, then I'm staying with my Yamaha DD-75
my dad got me an electronic alesis nitro drum module mesh kit
You need to present the sound of a few drum kits on each unit.
Thumbs down for leaving out two main factors. One, still no idea of price range. Second, still no idea of the sounds of each. The only thing explained is the components.
I would watch a video of Nick demonstrating spatulas. #ClickForNick
Got a vad506 on order now, can't wait!
wow, those kits look amazing. have fun with em
What do you do for work? Lol
I've had it for three months. Its awesome! And the new digital hh will make it complete. Ordered it as soon as it was announced;) Had the td50kvx, but the toms and crashes on this thing is what I was missing. No hotspots and unbeatable feel. With sd3 as vst these vad-kits are the best on the market. By far.
You would think that they would include what the price ranges are and what they sound like…
5:09 CHOKABLE features. Idk why I laughed so had at this
Reading about cymbal choke problems with Alesis kits and toontracks SD3 and EZD products, so much were the feature is just disabled, I’m wanting to pickup an alesis mesh since they don’t sell TourTech in the states but I would like to use the choke feature with my toontracks products
Anyone track with an electric kit? Looking for the most sensitive kit that translates very well when tracking via MIDI.
Hey, Jake. Thanks for your interest. Both the Yamaha DTX and Roland TD27 and up are stellar for recording.
Hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
"this price" "just a little more in price" "great option for this price point". Never mentions a single price.
Great video!……..😎👍 So in reality,…. “ the sky’s the limit”!! At a persons creativity in customizing his or her own kit……….. which is pretty sweet I must say. 👀😎👍👏✌️🇨🇦
#ThanksforyourcontinuedSupport
Love this!
Can you guys do a drum mic > interface > whatever comes next for dummies soon, please? I know I need mics and stuff, but terms like preamps and compression and ins and outs and all that is just over my head and there is no videos out there that really just puts things into laymen’s terms.
I'm here for Nick
I just want to get into drumming without annoying my family. Do I need a computer to use electronic drums
You would think a video about budget would include prices. Like wtf?
Ordered my Roland TD-17KV from Sweetwater almost a year ago. I've used it on a bunch of freelance remote session work, countless private lessons, and on a solo EP I released last fall. It's wildly exceeded my expectations!
Very informative video but why set all of these up and NOT plug them in and play? I want to hear the dang drums.
Are you going to do a demo on the new digital Hi hat from roland the VH14d
What about the seasoned player who just wants super cheap drums??? 😂 Do they have to be "beginner" kits?
This came at the right time just as I'm looking to buy my first e-Drum set. Thank you Nick and Sweetwater!
"To get a mesh kit in this price is super cool!" - $745
Did you forget about the Alesis Nitro mesh ($375) or the Alesis Surge ($579)?
Alesis nitro mesh are crap, they fall apart and malfunction all the time. The highest end Alesis pads are good
I like how he grabs the cymbal even though it’s rubber and doesn’t make noise
Where’s the KT4?.
Yeah we know that a edrumset is quiet ^^ No offense!
I have a donner ded-200 kit 4 cymbal one I love it it’s great it’s a great quality stand and kit the reason why it’s cheap and still is worth it with this 100% is that it has a really really crappy module has some nice kick sounds but everything else sounds crappy but the toms and snare are great! Quality nice triggering I guess but they are very small that’s the only downside of them but if you were to upgrade the model if you can do that and get expensive electric drum software like what I’m going to do it’s will probably be an amazing kit that just has small toms and snare lol also the kick pad supports a double bass pedal which I’m also getting the official ded video of them demonstrating the kit they have a double pedal on it😈
Masing the one thing we care about.... prices
my budget: 12 dollars minus student loans, 3 buttons and 6 cents
This video did not cover my $0 budget options :(
I'd like to start my Son off properly (punk/Hardcore/metal), is the Roland TD50 the better "functional" one out there?
let your son play what he wants, there no proper way to start. Try the command pro, don't sound like your son needs all the crazy features that the 7000 TD50 has. Lol I'll say, there's nothing more amusing to me seeing kids get completely spoiled with something they're not even deciding for themselves. You don't need the best out of the gate
Hi, Dion! Our team would be glad to look into this for you. When you have a moment, please give us a call at (800) 222-4700 or email us at sales@sweetwater.com. Thanks for the message!
You have a video about drums for every budget yet not once did you mention a price....
Braaaaaaaaaainsssss 🧠 🧠 🧠
Thanks for making this. After selling my old Roland TD10 kit off in pieces, I’m looking for something to replace it so I can play at night.
"Rubber pads are not a downgrade" it is 100% a downgrade. No self-respecting professional drummer would EVER settle for rubber pads
🤘🤘
Td 50 costs less than vad 506 now lol
I love how all these kits try to get "as close" to a acoustic kit, while being an electronic. Clearly shows how much better acoustic or. (I understand people who can not buy them cause of the price/sound etc. but you also cant deny that they're better)
Where's ATV??
This is a freaking clickbait. I thought I’d be seeing him destroying the drums 😂😂😂
Yeah but that small ass Roland costs thousands
wala gi tistingan ang mga tingogHAHAHAHAHA
Someone give this poor man a chair
I'm 100% that with this video they're just trying to get rid of the worst drumsets they got
Hmmmm no price range for the drum kits and no drum kit sounds to base a decision on. How could you leave that out?????
I’m at an intermediate level I would say, but live an apartment now a days so it’s been a while. Really don’t know what to get. Want to keep that natural feel and maintain the option to add on and remove parts as necessary
Roland pads are the best, all round for feel and durability. They can take a beating. As far as modules go that very subjective.
also depends on the building. Some have concrete floors and walls. Newer building are poorly constructed often only drywall and insulation between apartments.
Iv'e been in some beautiful building that look great but you can hear people snoring in the other apartment.
You could have plugged them in. It would be nice to actually compare them. Also what the F is a sales engineer? That's some buzz word sales bs there if ever I heard it. I hate that dodgy nonsense.
I'm on a 200$ budget
if you're reading this, just a reminder, you also have a nice brain
You'd think a video claiming to help people choose an electronic kit on ANY budget, that it would actually cover ANY budget but it doesn't. Can't afford a 700-800 dollar kit on 700 dollars a fortnight.
I chuckled when you choked the TD1s cymbal pad after striking it..old habits die hard👍😁