Cleve Dean was a man mountain and as someone else has mentioned he was an arm wrestler first who later turned his hand to strongman. He had natural farmer strength and was probably drug free. His build was nothing like a modern day strongman and carried a lot of fat similar to the old time legendary Canadian strongman Luis Cyr. He was around 450Ibs in his prime but even with all his size and power he was beaten by the legendary armwrestler John Brezenk who was less than half his size.
I would argue that Brian, with regular coaching from a pro, could get very good very quickly. If he has too many coaches he could get confused just like Larry did. Give Brian a month or so with Devon to polish his technique... Oh boy...
A good armwrestler doesn't mean a good coach. Brian can do it in about a year, his focus, motivation and attention to details make him great. He's totally coachable unlike Eddie, he'll follow instruction and learn and will make it work for his size and strength.
Man he is older then Larry. Workout for how long? 20 years ? You don't have unlimited capacity for progress even with good genetic and gear. Take at least two years to achieve decent armwrestling power. Armwrestling strength is slow process.
You can't compare guys like Larry Wheels, Leonidas, the black kid with big hands lol, etc to Brian Shaw. The dude is a multiple time worlds strongest human being and is massive compared to those other guys. And from what I'm looking at he is picking things up very fast. I think if he continues to stay extremely focused on it I don't think it will take him YEARS to get to the top of the sport like top 10 guy. Look how dam big he is and his technique looks pretty sound. I guarantee he destroys guys like Larry Wheels and Schoolboy right now.
There is a lot of North America guys that he can learn from. Michael Todd, Todzilla, Corey West, Deven, Dave Chaffee, the Goat, Cody Merritt, Derek Smith.
@@nate1sam Yes, but he needs to train with someone stronger than him to feel the difference in power when the opponent does the technique better since he sparring with people weaker than him and even if they do the technique better than Brian does not feel because of his strength and weight.
There are Levels, those that only know armwretling from the internet Don't seem to understand this. There is also a world of difference between practice, afterpulls and a real ready go. At his current level Brian would lose to a prime 160lb Allen fisher in a WAF ready go. In a year Brian will be the king of the practice table but will take a lot longer to be ready for the hit from a high level SHW.
You're right, there are levels. But that also applies to people getting involved in the sport. You simply can't compare Brian to Larry, Khaled, or even Leonidas. Anyone that's followed strength sports in general should be very, very excited about Brian's potential. He's not a Larry with relatively weak hands and wrists, he's an absolute beast of a strongman that specialises in grip strength- so his hands, wrists and forearms are already outrageously strong, even amongst arm wrestler standards. The main thing that separates arm wrestlers from normal strength athletes, other than technique, is decades of tendon strength built up. Brian is coming in with that foundation set, he just needs to tweak the movements slightly to fit the arm wrestling motor patterns and he'll be set. And on a technical level, strength still outmatches technique in arm wrestling- provided you at least have a reasonable grasp on the basics. Look at Devon vs Denis in his prime, and Devon vs Levan- Devon is far superior in technique but was helpless with the strength gap. Once Brian takes on a few low to mid level pullers and starts to feel that out, I think he's a massive threat to anyone not named Levan. Just watch Denis and his career progression to get an idea of what Shaw could accomplish, because Denis went from a very strong dude to an elite arm wrestler in a very short period of time. Whether he will ever actually threaten Levan is questionable but not impossible, as he actually does have a frame that could make Levan work. And I think he looks like he carries the weight a lot more comfortably than Levan, and if he can make it a war of attrition then he probably will have the superior endurance. But that's a huge question mark at this stage, he has a lot of work to do.
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Jerry looking solid! I agree with their assessments! Give Shaw a few years and he will be a force!
No one else is like Brian Shaw.
Does anyone remember Cleve Dean? Competed in World's Strongest Man and was a multiple arm wresting champion!
Legend of the sport, had his back been healthy who knows how much stronger he couldve got.
He only competed in World's once and then he was already a champion in armwestling
Shaw is closer to Cleve than about anybody else but Cleve was a world apart in size. So sad he was injured his whole career
Cleve Dean was a man mountain and as someone else has mentioned he was an arm wrestler first who later turned his hand to strongman. He had natural farmer strength and was probably drug free. His build was nothing like a modern day strongman and carried a lot of fat similar to the old time legendary Canadian strongman Luis Cyr. He was around 450Ibs in his prime but even with all his size and power he was beaten by the legendary armwrestler John Brezenk who was less than half his size.
@@shahman7860 Brzenk did beat him, just not every time. Dean beat Brzenk also.....many times!
I would argue that Brian, with regular coaching from a pro, could get very good very quickly. If he has too many coaches he could get confused just like Larry did. Give Brian a month or so with Devon to polish his technique... Oh boy...
A good armwrestler doesn't mean a good coach. Brian can do it in about a year, his focus, motivation and attention to details make him great. He's totally coachable unlike Eddie, he'll follow instruction and learn and will make it work for his size and strength.
Man he is older then Larry. Workout for how long? 20 years ? You don't have unlimited capacity for progress even with good genetic and gear. Take at least two years to achieve decent armwrestling power. Armwrestling strength is slow process.
You can't compare guys like Larry Wheels, Leonidas, the black kid with big hands lol, etc to Brian Shaw. The dude is a multiple time worlds strongest human being and is massive compared to those other guys. And from what I'm looking at he is picking things up very fast. I think if he continues to stay extremely focused on it I don't think it will take him YEARS to get to the top of the sport like top 10 guy. Look how dam big he is and his technique looks pretty sound. I guarantee he destroys guys like Larry Wheels and Schoolboy right now.
He wont destroy Schoolboy kid… Brian wont be able to deal with Those explosive start hits yet
I think Brian Shaw should train with Levan to progress faster
There is a lot of North America guys that he can learn from. Michael Todd, Todzilla, Corey West, Deven, Dave Chaffee, the Goat, Cody Merritt, Derek Smith.
@@nate1sam Yes, but he needs to train with someone stronger than him to feel the difference in power when the opponent does the technique better since he sparring with people weaker than him and even if they do the technique better than Brian does not feel because of his strength and weight.
There are Levels, those that only know armwretling from the internet Don't seem to understand this.
There is also a world of difference between practice, afterpulls and a real ready go. At his current level Brian would lose to a prime 160lb Allen fisher in a WAF ready go. In a year Brian will be the king of the practice table but will take a lot longer to be ready for the hit from a high level SHW.
You're right, there are levels. But that also applies to people getting involved in the sport. You simply can't compare Brian to Larry, Khaled, or even Leonidas.
Anyone that's followed strength sports in general should be very, very excited about Brian's potential. He's not a Larry with relatively weak hands and wrists, he's an absolute beast of a strongman that specialises in grip strength- so his hands, wrists and forearms are already outrageously strong, even amongst arm wrestler standards. The main thing that separates arm wrestlers from normal strength athletes, other than technique, is decades of tendon strength built up. Brian is coming in with that foundation set, he just needs to tweak the movements slightly to fit the arm wrestling motor patterns and he'll be set.
And on a technical level, strength still outmatches technique in arm wrestling- provided you at least have a reasonable grasp on the basics. Look at Devon vs Denis in his prime, and Devon vs Levan- Devon is far superior in technique but was helpless with the strength gap. Once Brian takes on a few low to mid level pullers and starts to feel that out, I think he's a massive threat to anyone not named Levan. Just watch Denis and his career progression to get an idea of what Shaw could accomplish, because Denis went from a very strong dude to an elite arm wrestler in a very short period of time.
Whether he will ever actually threaten Levan is questionable but not impossible, as he actually does have a frame that could make Levan work. And I think he looks like he carries the weight a lot more comfortably than Levan, and if he can make it a war of attrition then he probably will have the superior endurance. But that's a huge question mark at this stage, he has a lot of work to do.