The Jet pin router came with something similar to what you describe. More than anything it got in the way. Further, and to that end, the debris can fly in 360 degrees since the piece is constantly moving. It is easier to simply sweep up later.
I have done a number of them, here are 3 examples... th-cam.com/video/kAbDlC8PwRE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/obPNNsYLP60/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/FvpzHqNr6Iw/w-d-xo.html
Had thin Temps and cutting with router caused nicks at times. We repaired them then made thicker copies to give bearing more room to follow. Saves original to make new ones when needed. Also we used wide tip marker to outline fir band sawing to outer edge then route to size. Not and issue for pin router obviously. Love his register pins. My tape comes from a framers device that has a roll of double sided tape. Eliminates finding edge of the tape you use. May try the tape Steve uses.
Very slick. I can't wait to see the generic set. Here is an idea for Steve, make some male pickup shapes with a pin bushing in the center so a guy could make a DIY template for the exterior shape that locates off the pickup routes. It would probably be good to use double-stick tape to secure the DIY template for routing but it would make reproducing a DIY shape pretty easy and more than accurate enough for a hobby builder.
Oh no, you still very much need the centerline and it as on all of these templates. On a one piece body there is no seam from glue up so match up to the center line.
Off topic but, my pin router tubing is cracking ( little Shop Fox) any ideas about locating replacement? SHOP FOX was no help since discontinued. Auto vacuum hoses?..
Grossly over priced. And the end of the day, they're templates, no matter the pins or what other inexpensive additions thrown into the mix. $250 to $350 for strat or tele templates, makes the ridiculously priced stew mac seem like a good deal (which, it isn't). they look like good templates, but you can't justify the price no matter what kind of praise is given. Now, maybe he sells just the two body templates at a more reasonable price (meaning, less than Stew mac sells 2 strat templates for, which is $157.38.
You can buy a Harbor Freight sander or a Festool sander. Everyone that has bought the Festool always wonders why they didn’t buy it sooner and would never go back, ever. Steve’s templates are just like that Festool sander and until you used them, you really don’t know. But not everyone can buy a Festool either….
@@TexasToastGuitars "It's much easier to fool a man, than to convince him that he's been fooled." I'll see your Coco the clown and raise you a Mark Twain. lol
With the price of good wood these days a great set of templates pay off their cost in saved wood and time. If you're only going to use them a couple of times maybe cheaper MDF templates are for you. But for many people these templates are a good choice and deal. They aren't priced too much, you just don't want them enough!
@@cragmoredigulbot4207 For guitar bodies i'm using Alder, basswood, poplar, some ash, it's fairly inexpensive, (So are sheets of 1/4 inch acrylic) I just make guitar bodies for myself (i play guitar more than build) so i don't buy it in bulk. Very helpful though, thanks for your input.
The alignment pins is the secret sauce to making bodies the same every time. Very cool idea!!
totally, I was asking Chris if we were ready to toss out all the old templates
@@TexasToastGuitars if you do, can you send your Les Paul templates to me?
@@joequixotic3039 Why would I get rid of my Les Paul templates?
@@TexasToastGuitars uhh, you were asking Chris about tossing them?
The old Challenger templates
Steve is a genius. These tools and jigs he comes up with are game-changers.
It really is next level stuff. No one is making anything this cool...except Steve
Yeah thats a charm and works like one!
Very cool. I appreciate all the insight into building I've received from you, Matt (and Chris) and Steve. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it my friend
Matt. ya need a big ol' sucker hose at the bit area on the pin maybe?? Grab at least some of the waste?
The Jet pin router came with something similar to what you describe. More than anything it got in the way. Further, and to that end, the debris can fly in 360 degrees since the piece is constantly moving. It is easier to simply sweep up later.
love to see a video on how to shape an arch top guitar body, thanks for the Vids Mat
I have done a number of them, here are 3 examples...
th-cam.com/video/kAbDlC8PwRE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/obPNNsYLP60/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/FvpzHqNr6Iw/w-d-xo.html
@@TexasToastGuitars Thanks!
I bet Steve will come up with much more!!
I'll be you are right
Incredible templates.
It's the good stuff
Thats a fantastic idea !!! Very cool ... Thanks Matt
You bet!
I want to let everyone know about how cool these are. I ordered the Tele set and should probably get the Strat set too
Had thin Temps and cutting with router caused nicks at times. We repaired them then made thicker copies to give bearing more room to follow. Saves original to make new ones when needed. Also we used wide tip marker to outline fir band sawing to outer edge then route to size. Not and issue for pin router obviously. Love his register pins. My tape comes from a framers device that has a roll of double sided tape. Eliminates finding edge of the tape you use. May try the tape Steve uses.
The pin router pretty much rules
Super cool!!!
I think so too
Love those templates. I am definitely going to be ordering the truss rod and carbon fiber rod set.
Right on Tom, you will really dig them
Awesome idea
I think so too
Super cool templates. I was hoping for something you could hook up to that pneumatic sander again. Bada bing, bada boom, here is the body!
Next time!
Steve is a freakin Genius!
Yeah he is one smart feller that's for sure. It was remarkable how fast he was able to do them too. Of course, it's us HAHAHAHA
Feels like I should have seen one of those before.... but what kind of Routing machine is that?
Thats so cool to see it in action. Thanks for the demo video....but are they Chris proof? Ummm yeaahhh?
Hmmmm Chris isn't exactly in the woodshop too often
Chris doesn’t damage templates. Not sure what you mean by this.
I gotta get hip to Jim Jamm Jimmy, that Hot Green Chile song is a jam.
Oh yeah, he is the man
I just got in line for Steve to make templates for my custom explorer shape.
Nice Shane!
To what degree does routing the pickup cavities at the beginning dictate bridge choice/placement considering a 25.5” scale length (for example)?
Brilliant!
I think so too
It sounds like we need to have a 10 Year Anniversary celebration for the Challenger body design.
Maybe we sold make sure it has been 10 years
Very slick.
I can't wait to see the generic set.
Here is an idea for Steve, make some male pickup shapes with a pin bushing in the center so a guy could make a DIY template for the exterior shape that locates off the pickup routes. It would probably be good to use double-stick tape to secure the DIY template for routing but it would make reproducing a DIY shape pretty easy and more than accurate enough for a hobby builder.
Cool idea, did you send him an email?
@@TexasToastGuitars no, you can tell him if you want. I just thought if it was a good enough idea it would get back to him.
@@joequixotic3039 I find your level of commitment disturbing
@@TexasToastGuitars I keep my options open.
Here is some commitment if you like that sort of thing:
th-cam.com/video/0ABEOxbAMJo/w-d-xo.html
I'm planning an SG rethink...
We'll see how that goes....
Sounds cool Karl
Very cool video as always. Get what you pay for as far as price.
You got that right!
A limba body Challenger. Yum
It is super cool
So with the pins in place no centerline is needed? 🤔
Oh no, you still very much need the centerline and it as on all of these templates. On a one piece body there is no seam from glue up so match up to the center line.
Off topic but, my pin router tubing is cracking ( little Shop Fox) any ideas about locating replacement? SHOP FOX was no help since discontinued. Auto vacuum hoses?..
I sourced hoses and fittings from McMaster Carr when I got the Jet pin router. I think they will have what you need
Thanks will check with them
Yeah those are the bee's knees!
Lord knows I love them
Hi there guys, I’m a huge fan of you guys, question !!! Would you guys built me a guitar body and if so how would I go about ordering one than you.
Hi Eddi
We do not do bodies right now BUT...
We do offer classes
All the stroking aside, we're talking about guitar templates.
Yes
Cool SH!T right there!!
I dig it the most
Wait a minute, no super glue trick? Lol
What kinda jabroni still uses that
@@TexasToastGuitars is that the fast cap tape or the other one. Thanks in advance
Taylor Tool Works
@@tommymartinez1788 I think it the other one with the paper backing.
that pin router is so goddamn sexy. i fuckin want one..... something is telling me i cant get that into my dads basement tho
If you believe you can achieve
Grossly over priced. And the end of the day, they're templates, no matter the pins or what other inexpensive additions thrown into the mix. $250 to $350 for strat or tele templates, makes the ridiculously priced stew mac seem like a good deal (which, it isn't). they look like good templates, but you can't justify the price no matter what kind of praise is given. Now, maybe he sells just the two body templates at a more reasonable price (meaning, less than Stew mac sells 2 strat templates for, which is $157.38.
You can buy a Harbor Freight sander or a Festool sander. Everyone that has bought the Festool always wonders why they didn’t buy it sooner and would never go back, ever. Steve’s templates are just like that Festool sander and until you used them, you really don’t know. But not everyone can buy a Festool either….
“Some people think luxury is the opposite of poverty. It is not. It is the opposite of vulgarity.”
― Coco Chanel
@@TexasToastGuitars "It's much easier to fool a man, than to convince him that he's been fooled." I'll see your Coco the clown and raise you a Mark Twain. lol
With the price of good wood these days a great set of templates pay off their cost in saved wood and time. If you're only going to use them a couple of times maybe cheaper MDF templates are for you. But for many people these templates are a good choice and deal. They aren't priced too much, you just don't want them enough!
@@cragmoredigulbot4207 For guitar bodies i'm using Alder, basswood, poplar, some ash, it's fairly inexpensive, (So are sheets of 1/4 inch acrylic) I just make guitar bodies for myself (i play guitar more than build) so i don't buy it in bulk. Very helpful though, thanks for your input.