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Cheater Detected!!! | Alapin, Grand Prix, Sicilian and Philidor | GM Naroditsky's DYI Speedrun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
00:29 First move
00:31 Game 1 Alapin
05:00 Analysis 1
08:35 Game 2 Philidor (Cheater)
21:00 Analysis 2
29:03 Example
30:20 Back to Game
36:15 Game 3 Grand Prix 5min
42:00 Analysis 3
45:50 Game 4 Pirc 5min
52:38 Analysis 4
56:20 Example
57:20 Back to Game
Unlock the secrets of chess mastery in this eye-opening analysis of three high-level games. Join us as we explore how piece activity and development can lead to devastating tactical opportunities. Learn to punish slow play, restrict your opponent's pieces, and find those crucial quiet moves that set up winning combinations. Whether you're a beginner looking to improve or an experienced player seeking to refine your strategy, this video offers invaluable insights into positional play, tactical awareness, and the principles behind popular openings. Discover why understanding core concepts is more powerful than memorizing lines, and how to apply these ideas to dominate your games. From the Philidor Defense to French-like structures, we cover a range of openings to illustrate universal chess principles. Don't miss this chance to elevate your chess game and start outplaying your opponents today!
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Babe, new danya vs cheater episode dropped
Thisss
the funny thing is that for laughs I actually woke up my girlfriend once to tell her this recurring comment... she looked at me very badly, still sleepy, and asked me: who the hell is "Danya"?🤣
Back in the day we had 5 episodes in a row like this
I don't know you, stop calling me babe.
Babe was at my house and we already watched it.
Second game is why I never want people to say “cheating in bullet is impossible”. That dude was playing a perfect endgame with near instant moves
The vid was sped up tho
@@Jo-po2oono it wasnt
@@calebkoeller9586yeah the first part wasn't but look at the clock when they played the endgame
@@Jo-po2ooit occasionally clips by like a second I guess. Not really anything substantial
@@calebkoeller9586 well danya points out that in the endgame hisove times where three seconds. So the editing made it substantially faster
"We are not straight foward people, we are fancy" is my favourite quote
"So we just continue playing straight forwardly. Grabs a pawn. Am I playing the best moves? Definitely not. I think there was a way perhaps to squeeze maybe even a decisive advantage, to punish black more decisively but we are playing simple chess and there is nothing wrong with that"
@@adriannoval8395 Danya can hold two opposing thoughts in his head simultaneously. We mortals can't.
Loving the consistent uploads recently! Please keep going with it!!
Honestly, the cheater still made for very instructive content. I know it hurts in its own way, but that endgame was absolutely beautiful. Many content creators would just pretend the game didn't happen, and Danya didn't. Thank you for showing the cheater game.
Danya better not keep the cheater games to himself
Honestly, this comment is very instructive. It perfectly portrays how to copy the TH-camrs perspective and pass it as your own.
@@Milo1267 I like this take. I'll mull it over.
Watching old Danya videos when a new Danya video comes out 🥰
Aside from the usual excellent commentary, GM Danya’s way of dealing with cheating and possible cheating is valuable.🙏
"It could be that black is smurfing."
Finally Danya understands how it feels to play a 1200 Elo Super GM.
I am new to chess. My doubt is when you play online and you are going to cheat you should turn on engine on another device and copy the moves, it is time consuming, here the cheater was playing so fast. How is this possible. Please clear my doubt.
@@prakash_cltSome people have browser extensions that automatically play the moves or something like that. There are cheaters in bullet. Aman Hambleton even played a cheater in a 30 second game.
@@AP0PT0SIS Yes, he's using some kind of autobot. Look at his profile, bullet games with 94 accuracy.
@@prakash_clt there are cheats that can calculate a good/best move in less than a second, and in certain positions it does it in 200 miliseconds. If you have a powerful computer or more linked compures for the cheat to calculate then you're going to win even in superbullet games against the best player in the world.
Danya isn't a Super GM. But I agree with the sentiment.
Have not watched you in a couple years.. very impressed at your growth for the channel and as a human, brother. Keep up the good work
Don't cheat no matter how sad you are
Best life advice right here.
What has sadness to do with cheating you cheat coz you want to there are countless reasons for a person x to want to do thing y
@@justarandomanimegirlpassin5341 chill. It's just one of the reasons that does make folks cheat
@@justarandomanimegirlpassin5341it’s not that deep
middle east and india
The Philidor plague is so real.. I literally face it every game
Right!! 🤣🤣
time for the opera house
3. Bc4 and people don't know how to make any active play, they get worse Italian - or Morphy Gambit if you like that kind of play, it's surprisingly good in practice (and engine doesn't hate it)
At my level ( 600's ) you get the fried liver plague.
In the 1000's I guess you get the Philidor's defence plague. Lol
When at the level of the current speedrun, the Philador is actually a very hard defense to break down. It's slower for sure, but black doesn't have to know reams of theory to get a playable position.
Awesome video, great job
Danya, you are so 😎! I love this format too!
Thanks bro, love the content ❤
4 games in a single video? What an unexpected treat!
Pls could you do more of your puzzle solving series with penguin? It was sooo helpful for learning a better tactical mindset
yeah i feel like i leaarnt the most from those vids
I like that you show the loses and just get on with it. A few other players I watch seem to only ever show games they win
*danya playing a game 15 moves in*
Danya: aha yes, i remember seeing this move in a game i played in 1993 let me pull it up.
hahaha for real this always amazes me, like how tf
I really liked the idea of a blitz speed run where you explain your thought process in this time format
Never understood chess cheating, especially at this level(just above me, and I'm a novice). I get refunded rating at least once a month due to cheaters and it's difficult for me to know if they're cheating or just totally out playing me.
He explains and plays so smoothly I didn't even realize he was in a new game lol, I thought he was still analyzing openings
What a treat. Got a burger in my hand. Can of pepsi and bout to open a beer! It's Speedrun time!
Love me some beer and drunkingly feeding my opponents ELO
Not a treat for that cow. Unless you ate vegetarian burger.
Hell yeah brother!
@@SuperYtc1 no it's not a treat for the cow it's a treat for me. I wouldn't feed a cow a burger that sounds inappropriate
@@SuperYtc1wow i looked at your comments on this channel and u seem to be a very sad person :)
Cheers Danya 👍
I love you man you taught me a lot ❤
I dont play chess anymore for about 3 month but your video is very entertaining and informative, so I just couldnt stop watching lol
Would be nice if you put the game pgn somewhere so me can set it up on my device more easy and play around! (:
Awesome as always, keep it up and stay healthy!
Thanks!
Thank you Danya!
By far the best chess channel out there.
Thanks for the video Mr. Naroditsky! Any information on the KID course I've heard rumors about?
Hi Dan! I used your alpine style and I won 😅 easily.
You re the best.
Best wishes from Morocco.
Thank you!
Thank you❤
Hey Daniel, it would be really interesting if you could do a speedrun showing how to play trappy, dubious or objectively bad openings, especially at a high level. I feel like it would really help my game to learn how to complicate the position and come back from losing positions. Love your speedruns but you usually have the better position by move 10.
Masterclass!
First game very instructive for advanced Caro-Kann. I sometimes go Bg4 when white’s light square bishop goes to d3, but never considered Be4 then dxe4 to break white’s defense of the d pawn.
Good day for a new video
you cannot not watch a danya speedrun episode.. amazing tactics as always
Please never stop uploading, you are the Greatest chess teacher ever, I wish to meet you in person one day.
Okay, let's do the procedure
18:04 how Frieza felt when Goku went Super Saiyan
Hey Danya, I have a question about your recommendation against the Alapin. Against the Smith-Morra gambit, you recommend declining with Nf6, transposing into the Alapin. How come you recommend a different line against the Alapin, when you have to learn the Nf6 lines anyways (and you presumably can be “forced” into them)?
i always wonder if the cheaters turn on the engine because they think danya is cheating but maybe I’m being too generous
ah he has 100% winrate lol
Ive had that first game position so many times from a advanced immediate c5 caro kahn im so sad that white just blundered the whole game way. need to see this same position at like 2000 elo
yippie more chess
the checkmate in last game was very nice
I work as a rock-climbing instructor and i was at 4,000 meters height with my group when the alert from Daniel's channel came in. So we had to hang out on a cliff wall for an hour until we watched this episode to the end.
My students fully supported my decision.❤
Conquering mount everest so your pieces dont always have to be?
That last game was excellent, definitely made up for the cheater sandwiched between two somewhat lackluster opponents.
Daniel's Amazing 💪
The Philidor, the Milhouse of openings
21:27 “Generally 1100s don’t play this well”
Umm, no HUMAN can play this well. Not even Carlsen.
Game 1 00:28 Alapin (B)
Game 2 08:38 Philidor (W)
Game 3 36:17 Grand Prix (B)
Game 4 45:53 Pirc (W)
Detail timestamps at description
Thanks!
Thanks 🎉
I like these 4 game videos bruh
Danyaaa the real Boss
Can u do a video on da Latvian gambit
danya can u make a vid in converting a win position to a win?
First game is basically an advanced Caro Kann. That's why I knew you would pin the knight instead of trading bishops.
doesn't game 1 transpose more into the advance caro kann for black? with the pawn on C5 and the bishop outside of the pawn chain on F5?
At 26:25 doesn't Bc6 solve the problem though? Or am I missing something
I really like your teaching style and you are such a great player, much stronger than me of course and I learned a lot of things from your videos.
Despite that I think I have a interesting suggestion/plan which you may underestimated a bit and I learned it from analyzing Rook endgames such as the one you got against the cheater.
I know you had no time, played against an engine shich is psychological hard and for sure know how to make draw in this endgame but I would like to suggest a plan which made thie endgame so easier for me.
For example in19:50 instead of playing Kf1 the plan is to try and create quick counter play with f3 g4 and Kh3 if the rook is on the second rank (R+ 3 vs R + 2 is an easy draw) to try and create past pwan on the h file to distract the black king or a weaknes on h5 which would make black's plan to bring the king much less threatening because at the right time white can get to the h5 pawn and create a passer.
I am not a GM so you probably knows better and I would like to know if you agree with this take or see a concrete problem with it. Thanks for the read!
In game 2 I (a weak player) typically opt for Qd4-d1 rather than Qd4-d3, largely because I'm not able to handle the difficulty of maintaining the queen in the center. Strong players seem to do it without worrying.
Then dont play Qd4 play Nd4
Ever thought of releasing a pgn of your a5 English attack Najdorf sideline (vs nd7 b5)?
Such excellent content
4:52 dude did that before I could even process the piece moving
Does anyone know why Danya has been streaming less recently? Not meant to be pressure I’m just curious
I kind of quitted playing chess for a while because of the amount of cheaters who aren't banned at all. The cheating software have gotten so good now that they can even automate "human-like" moves while pretending to spend time like humans. It's getting hard to tell who is cheating based on just game alone.
Not a Smurf, since he clearly showed he was a beginner in the opening :(.
idk why but a lot of cheaters seem to play the Philidor. Obviously not every Philidor is a cheater, and plenty of cheaters play other stuff, but it seems to me that quite a few of the cheaters I'm encountering play it.
I used to play the Philidor
The thing is,
1)if you don't know 20 lines of opening, you can easily get lost in less than 20 moves
2) it leads to very close positions that are really hard to play for beginners/intermediate
Then I guess that's why they resort to cheating
Danya single handedly helped me develope my chesskill in just a year and is so far the first content creator ever i consider to be worth investing money to so i can recall hearing about a Naroditsky Kings Indian course a while back, what happened to it because i really cant find it, or is it still in the making?. Take my money please.
Isn’t the first game an advanced caro, botvinnik-carls variation transposition?
I think it's also a Scandinavian defense transposition where black pushes the e pawn rather than capturing
Not exactly because black is up a tempo because c6 was never played
Good
The cheating videos are always the best
Thanks Danya❤
I really love watching Daniel vs cheaters
The second game, I mean you could just open support chat and say "I want to be banned, please."
what are you referencing at 5:20?
43:41 Qe7 is the best move, the point is that d4 fails to Nd3 Kd2 Nf2!
This sort of thing makes me wonder how many of my losses have been to cheaters...
thank you sensei danya
Call Kramnik. We gotta Make The Procedure Great Again
can anyone please explain what DYI means in the title of the video? i know what DIY means, but i've never seen DYI before?
19:26 I was hoping Danya would analyse the pawn endgame as it's not a straightforward win for black.
Rxb4 Rxb4 cxb4 Ke7 Kf3 Kd6 Ke4 Kc6 Kd4 Kb5 Kc3 Ka4 b5+ Kc5 f5 (the only move other moves are losing or draws, notice the white king can make a mad dash for the kingside at the right time) h3 g5 f4 gxf4 gxf4 h6 h4 h5 Kd5 Kxb4 Ke5 Kc4 Kxf5 b4 Ke6 (after Kg6 black promotes with check) Ke6 b3 f5 b2 f6 b1=Q f7 Qb4 Kf6 Qf8 not allowing white a situation where he can stalemate himself with Kh8, however with the pawns on h4 and h5 there are stalemate tricks, but it allows another possibility for black instead of Qb4: Qf1 Ke7 Kd5 f8=Q Qxf8+ Kxf8 Ke6 (preventing Ke7) Kg7 Kf5 Kh6 Kg4 Kg6 Kxh4 Kf5 Kg3 Kg5 h4 black wins by 1 move.
Yeah, that cheater game was unfortunate. At this level, it's also important to consider the economy of movement. That h5 move not only made little sense from a chess perspective, but it also means he had to move the cursor all the way over to the other side of the board and back. Even if you saw h5 (not that one would consider it), a human would go for the equally reasonable move that would be the focus of your attention and not require risking a mouse slip or wasting time. It's just a natural instinct.
I'm really disappointed that you didn't pull out a beret at 8:09.
Let’s goooooo?
Using the Engine to play is like using chatgpt to do your essay . you're outsourcing the job to someone else and you won't improve it's a waste of everyone's time
Nah it's much worse. Doing an essay is usually a must and playing a chess game is a total choice
@@rfafoerfoierjoaNo, I mean that cheating in chess is worse. First of all it's not just a game for some people, it's half a career for me and there is also money on the line. The main difference is when you cheat you directly doing damage to someone else. When you wrote an essay with LLM sure it's not the most ethical action but you are not in a direct competition with anyone. Life chasing implications? It won't be true for the big majority of essays and considering it's usually not even making the quality better and just saving time from working on sometimes useless and not so relevant essays I think it's ridiculous to act like it's a bigger "Crime" than using an engine which can lead to lost of trust of the opponent and making them feel like they are bad at something that is really important to them
Why wouldn’t cheating help you improve?
What else do you think you are doing on TH-cam? You are watching someone better at chess than you play a game which can open your eyes to new chess concepts.
It’s not a moral way to improve, but my guess would be, cheating is probably a pretty fast way to learn.
It’s somewhat more feasible as these computer generated images and text is completely crap nonsense. Maybe can provide an image that an actual artist can touch up. Best case scenario.
Have you ever stumbled on an AI written news article? Not even remotely close to passing
@@michalrehacek3462 As a chess instructor myself I am really skeptical about the suggestion that cheating would be a fast way to improve. When you see a strong chess player plays you are not improving from just looking on the moves, the most important thong is the explanations and logic behind that which stockfish don't provide.
Chess engines this days are so strong the plans and moves they suggest are most of the time ridiculous to the naked eye of a chess beginner and contains so much concrete details without unpacking it would seems like a complete mess. Even analyzing with an engine would be beneficial only if you know how to ask the right questions at the right moment because it's easy to just mindlessly relying on the engine without thinking and understanding the logic beyond and I can be horrendous to your chess
Does anybody know what Danya reads besides chess?
he is a historian if I remember right
At 50:15 could black not win a pawn with Nxd5 Rxd5 Qxc6?
52:00 - Danya with 30 seconds on the clock: "now please think and find a very nice mate in 2 - i will leave you with some time" its almost unstoppable unless oponent gives up the queen
How did he use an engine with rapid speed like this? I thought usually the tell is the delay in moves
Some people have engines that run during the game which automatically receive the game moves without the player needing to enter them in. In a window, the engine displays the best move at any given moment.
There was an obvious delay when he waited 3 seconds before queening
@@profd65 diabolical
There are programs which will play for you. Can there be a more pointless activity?
20:24 No, that's not okay!
1st game started as Sicilian, changes in advanced french and I get this type of position in Caro-Kann.
If you're playing that as the caro kann it's slightly worse though because you had to move the c pawn twice and wasted a tempo that way.
@@flotto7045Yeah but he also technically burned a tempo moving the bishop to g4. Normally the bishop comes out to pin the knight in one move in those types of caro positions. That position after pinning the knight was a direct transposition to a bunch of my caro-kann games
You can get that position in Scandi as well
I'm about 1250 rapid on chess, this type of shit is more common than you'd think ...
I remember being at that level. Yeah the cheating is absurdly common. When I got to 1500 it finally died down.
Is it though? I got elo refunded way more often at ~1000 than 12-1300 and now at 1400 there's barely anyone cheating it seems
@@flotto7045 Yeah it is. The cheaters at 1200 are more clever and pretty much never get banned like most clever cheaters. I actually spar with the engine before i play and am very familiar with how it plays so i can easily identify a cheater.
Yup it does get a lot better. Around my level (1951 today, been higher, been lower) there’s a lot less of it I think. At least the rare moment I do report, I rarely get the points back, so they probably just played well. Meanwhile prior to 1600 or so, I was gaining back rating points on basically a daily basis 😅
Idk if it’s just me but in my thousands of games I’ve gotten my elo refunded like 3 times
1st Danya
26:27 black can play Bc6 here though but white is up a pawn
Danya video!!
*Vladimir Kramnik has entered the chat*
44:36 Qxe5 loses the queen yes, but then the Queen captures the rook on e8, and then black has lost a knight, bishop and a rook for the opponent's Queen and pawn. That sounds advantageous for white, doesn't it?
2:50 isn’t the position more of an advanced Caro-Kann not French?
the 1st game is really a caro kann advance variation with no exchange lol
How does he cheat so quickly? Not saying he wasn’t cheating btw just curious as to how he managed to process those moves and play them quickly toward the end.
Yeah it's interesting
I think there are extensions that tell you the best move without you having to reproduce every move in another tab because as you said he was clearly moving too quickly to do that