Complaining about team shots in a team based game is you basically you outing yourself for bad map positioning. If you aren’t shooting the same people as you teammates, you’re a bad teammate, Regardless of what weapon you or them are using.
You’re the reason I hate the radar in destiny 😂. You seem to always know where EVERYONE is. I’m not even logged in and you probably know where I’m at now.
Let me guess, you sit in front of your $600 low performance gaming laptop, gooning to some chick named Hannah UwU on OF. Paid subscriber, little cuck. Leave it all behind and start your D2 Pro journey now, I believe in you
Unless d2foundry is wrong 900 has .73 from tier 10-7 and only from 6 and below does it have .67 but TL makes all resilience.67 so it brings all ttks down a bullet at least and helps with range if hitting shots.
For multimach, I have a dynamic + tap the trigger, and Shayura’s I have a zen + tap the trigger. Would you recommend grinding for a target lock to be better than the tap the trigger perks ? Has anyone compared those ? Great video as always! Thanks
Rapacious is the only 720 that gets enhanced TL, so theoretically it’s better than immortal in raw killing power. Rapacious just has some pretty bad stats but you can make up for it
Smgs / target lock was buffed because Bungie refuses to nerf fusions. Even though bungie has acknowledged in the past that fusions are over performing, they won’t nerf them because of usage. The only people that use fusions know they can’t actually compete. It’s a desperate attempt at trying to be competitive.
Nope, the closest combo is 4th times the charm/target lock, and that's available on Prolonged Engagement(900) and Rapacious Appetite(720) . I couldn't find a single 600 with the combo.
Great vid however I do want to address a bit of a misleading comment both you are other content creators are making. Pulse rifles have NOT been reigned in. High impacts got a bit of a nerf to damage and range however still very good, still meta. These changes only opened up opportunities for other weapons to be more competitive, at range. However, those maining these and good will continue. Secondly, 450s got buffed and are definitely meta! They are like 450 autos, always a low-key dark horse 🐎 meta choice, that are now on the center stage. Smart players will adjust loadouts depending on maps more & of course play styles. Also so not sleep on 180 ans especially 200 epm scouts. Great picks all to run with SMGs, double primaries, or certain exotic specials, like sidearms Mush continued success in 2025
I wouldn't say they're OP. More like how Under Pressure used to be the only perk on fusions that would make them consistent. Now we have Target Lock on SMGs, which makes them viable again. I like that Bungie fixed this but it didn't address the lacksluster performance of most SMGs in this game.
Comment from your friendly neighborhood tech writer. There is no ' (apostrophe) between a word and s to make it plural. Multiple SMG = SMGs ' between a word and s is what makes it possessive (in most cases).
Stop worrying about smgs lmao, I'm sorry but the BxR battler has to be the best gun I've ever used on a fresh patch, the ttk on that thing is unbelievable
Really aren't. Still takes a whole multimach mag to kill anyone at 60 range. ALL the 600s are trash, with such a slow ROF you lose a fight to EVERYONE, no matter what, no matter what they have. The damage is pathetic on Shayura and Tempest. The 900s are the only way to go, but they're still so weak. You have to be in shotgun range even with Peacekeepers. SMGs are hot trash still.
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with these videos I watched for a while now and at the start the we’re well watchable but it’s basically run away hide behind teammates then push get few kills run round map hide peek out rinse an repeat all with no lagging which it seems everyone one else seems to be maybe destiny now provides good service to all there TH-camrs could also be why there game is dying definitely think they need to have a rethink of we’re there loyalties lie but I digress need to do something more intriguing for me anyways 😜
As much as I disliked the smg meta it is way better than the 340 sit at the back of the map and teams teamshot meta 💀
Complaining about team shots in a team based game is you basically you outing yourself for bad map positioning.
If you aren’t shooting the same people as you teammates, you’re a bad teammate, Regardless of what weapon you or them are using.
@@jc7111it was terrible though. Everybody grouping up an staying to each other fighting was boring fight against even if it’s team game.
@@jc7111 Meta is much healthier this way that's why devs did it. End of discussion
You’re the reason I hate the radar in destiny 😂. You seem to always know where EVERYONE is. I’m not even logged in and you probably know where I’m at now.
but everyone has a radar so why would it matter
Let me guess, you sit in front of your $600 low performance gaming laptop, gooning to some chick named Hannah UwU on OF. Paid subscriber, little cuck. Leave it all behind and start your D2 Pro journey now, I believe in you
It’s not that hard to look at the radar 🙄
Poor little kid can’t understand a simple radar. That must suck.
He's in the walls, HE'S IN THE GOD DAMN WALLS!
Shayuras goes really hard with the PKs and target lock, using distant pull on primary slot is a really fun set up
Distant pull is the sniper from Deep right?
9:50 damn lmfaooo
Unless d2foundry is wrong 900 has .73 from tier 10-7 and only from 6 and below does it have .67 but TL makes all resilience.67 so it brings all ttks down a bullet at least and helps with range if hitting shots.
9:51 lol yeeted
Damage boost isn’t showing up like it does above the super meter in pve. Is there a bug or something?
How do you have your radar up when you ads?
For multimach, I have a dynamic + tap the trigger, and Shayura’s I have a zen + tap the trigger. Would you recommend grinding for a target lock to be better than the tap the trigger perks ? Has anyone compared those ? Great video as always! Thanks
I'm watching this video and matched up with you in pvp right now !! Hahah
I tried out rapacious appetite with target lock and mask of bakris last night and it was feeling pretty good.
Rapacious is the only 720 that gets enhanced TL, so theoretically it’s better than immortal in raw killing power. Rapacious just has some pretty bad stats but you can make up for it
If only i liked a single smg with target lock, i basically only like that one solar smg from that barely touched archetype
Smgs / target lock was buffed because Bungie refuses to nerf fusions.
Even though bungie has acknowledged in the past that fusions are over performing, they won’t nerf them because of usage.
The only people that use fusions know they can’t actually compete. It’s a desperate attempt at trying to be competitive.
Is there a rewind/deconstruct, target lock smg on anything? Asking for a friend.
Nope, the closest combo is 4th times the charm/target lock, and that's available on Prolonged Engagement(900) and Rapacious Appetite(720) . I couldn't find a single 600 with the combo.
Great vid however I do want to address a bit of a misleading comment both you are other content creators are making.
Pulse rifles have NOT been reigned in.
High impacts got a bit of a nerf to damage and range however still very good, still meta.
These changes only opened up opportunities for other weapons to be more competitive, at range. However, those maining these and good will continue.
Secondly, 450s got buffed and are definitely meta! They are like 450 autos, always a low-key dark horse 🐎 meta choice, that are now on the center stage.
Smart players will adjust loadouts depending on maps more & of course play styles.
Also so not sleep on 180 ans especially 200 epm scouts. Great picks all to run with SMGs, double primaries, or certain exotic specials, like sidearms
Mush continued success in 2025
I knew i shouldn't have deleted my god roll Tempest
Crucible vendor weapon, you can always get that back! 😊
Tryhards: nooooo!!! Hand cannons are the only primary you should use in pvp because they show skill,
Me: haha smgs go brrrrr
Good stuff
Question for all the console players out there. What are your favorite SMG's? For me its Imminence and Ikelos.
Unending and ikelos, 900’s feel like pea shooters
600s feel really good, Shayura’s is the best.
Pve? Calus easily. Pvp? I dont use smgs but I guess I should start.
ikelos and manticore
@@223ndognope is not the best
Still really don't think it's as "OP" as many make it out to be. They are more consistent and viable as solo primaries.
7:25 target lock 💀
I wouldn't say they're OP. More like how Under Pressure used to be the only perk on fusions that would make them consistent. Now we have Target Lock on SMGs, which makes them viable again. I like that Bungie fixed this but it didn't address the lacksluster performance of most SMGs in this game.
Comment from your friendly neighborhood tech writer. There is no ' (apostrophe) between a word and s to make it plural. Multiple SMG = SMGs
' between a word and s is what makes it possessive (in most cases).
Most of us are on here to watch gameplay, not receive grammar lessons Dr. CoolGuy 😂
Hot take
Pulse Rifle and SMGs > Hand Cannons in PVP
How did you get that much super energy for these sword kills? love you vids btw
It's supremacy, you get super energy for picking up crests you've created. Because it was a sword, the crests were instantly picked up on kill!
High kill streak + collecting crests immediately
we're so back
Stop worrying about smgs lmao, I'm sorry but the BxR battler has to be the best gun I've ever used on a fresh patch, the ttk on that thing is unbelievable
I want your immortal 😭
Dw unending is better than
Really aren't. Still takes a whole multimach mag to kill anyone at 60 range. ALL the 600s are trash, with such a slow ROF you lose a fight to EVERYONE, no matter what, no matter what they have. The damage is pathetic on Shayura and Tempest. The 900s are the only way to go, but they're still so weak. You have to be in shotgun range even with Peacekeepers. SMGs are hot trash still.
Shayura’s Wrath users have been fucking me up bro… I hate it lol
Don't say it mate otherwise they will nerve them again, that's why the game is dying
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with these videos I watched for a while now and at the start the we’re well watchable but it’s basically run away hide behind teammates then push get few kills run round map hide peek out rinse an repeat all with no lagging which it seems everyone one else seems to be maybe destiny now provides good service to all there TH-camrs could also be why there game is dying definitely think they need to have a rethink of we’re there loyalties lie but I digress need to do something more intriguing for me anyways 😜
Titans are broken especially with that exotic boots. No talent needed to be a titan
Which makes me want to start playing with Titan smh. The void shield is nuts on top of that lol
first :v