"When you place a pre-order, you automatically agree to our Terms of Service" and inside those Service Terms are the legal words that pretty much say "We can change this whenever we want to, however we want to, and there is nothing you can do about it". According to the courts, you are agreeing to the TOS because you willingly chose to buy this content. They will not side with you. Just so you know, every single game you have purchased on Steam can have it's conditions changed at ANY TIME. Every single one. Steam can just remove the game from your library if these conditions change, and remove it from your account. There is nothing you can do about it, and it's 100% legal. It doesn't matter what country you are in, it won't be protected. Majority of companies don't do it because of this reaction. Still though, it's legal. It's also why it's legal for Blizzard to "remake" Warcraft 3, release it, and completely make the CDs you purchased for WC3 in 2002 almost worthless. All legal.
nah if everyone talks shit about it and no one buys it capitalism will run its course and the company will die on its own. maybe legal action to get people their money back or revert the changes tho?
@@certifedcupcake yes but changing the tos afterwards means you can get a refund. So get all your money back and then they are ruined even faster plus you have more money.
na, BSG have been doing this since day one, there never should have been editions other than the base, sure people should be able to pay $10 more or what ever to help the developers but every single game package is p2w compared to the last.
@@sl4y3r Main editions were not that bad cause at least you can get the same stuff through the progression. The real stuff that is impossible to grind started to unearth only this year.
@@zorkitipafed4626 they are all still p2w over the base edition, your paying money to get an advantage over other players because your pockets are deeper.
And still a huge amount of hackers. But don't worry, as long as you go to the forums with evidence and complain about the hacker problem, they will ban you claiming there's no hacking problem. Absolute trash tier devs.
And they use the word free as a buzzword too. One thing that really annoys me is when a company says you're getting something for free when you buy something, no, it's included in the price. Something is only ever free of you never have to give them money. "Free access to future DLCs" when you give us 250 dollars. Yeah that isn't free, stop it.
@@crumbopulis My point is you aren't getting "free DLCs", you've paid for them, they say "you're getting free stuff" as a manipulation tactic, to make you feel like you're getting a good deal. It's scummy and I hate it.
@@Stevo.100 Well... No, because the whole idea of that is that paid dlc is an extra charge, but not to that version. As we can see that wasn't honored and people are rightfully furious. It's not rocket science.
Probably a manipulation tactic AND a legal tactic to weasel themselves out of trouble when doing the bait and switch. "We never said you paid for it, we were doing it as a nice gesture, so we are not legally bound to give anything. And things have changed so now you need to pay."
It's effectively the same thing, the sad part is they don't really have to care about getting sued because they'll make more money from this then they'll have to pay, such as every illegal thing done by any big company ever.
@@sirweebs2914 Thank you sir!🫡 Know that any children i am allowed to have shall be signing up for helldiver training by the age of 7 like any real patriot! They will do their part!
I love the game, but this kinda ignores Warbonds and the in-game cash shop. Edit: Wow a wild amount of people butthurt over someone who thinks HD2 could possibly not be completely perfect. The fake propaganda rattle your brains?
@@TRDiscordian I really don’t see how that’s really remotely on the same level as $250 ptw content that is unobtainable without spending real money. HD2 only lets you spend $20 maximum on a single purchase, and the game generously hands out the credits. You could realistically get all the credits you need for all warbonds within a few weeks. I don’t even think there’s a timer on the warbonds. As far as everyone understands they last forever. I think their in game currency system is extremely fair. They don’t even go as far as putting that fake “bonus xx credits” when buying a bigger pack, it just has the full amount right there.
@@TRDiscordianwhich are completely free if you just play the game since the „premium“ currency can just be found ingame fairly regularly. So nothing like tarkov or other cashgrab games.
Unfortunately it is common for devs of 2010's and newer ones. Warface was on beta for years, 7DTD is still in fucking alpha. Most of the modern indie devs prefer to release their games under the Early Acess terms.
As someone who has purchased the EOD edition, what frustrates me the most is that the ability to play the game cooperatively offline is going to be locked behind this new edition. This is what I have been waiting for, for a very long time, this feels like a complete kick in the nuts and the fact they have retroactively changed the wording on the storefront is ridiculous.
coop offline was literally the reason my friend and I bought it at the time it was released. he's been gone for years now but this news was what I needed to finally quit.
Asmon didn't even catch the worst parts of it. One of the things it gives you is access to a (currently unimplemented) distress signal item that will ping all people in your friends list and let them join your raid to help you. Remember, this is a extraction shooter, where when you die you're out of the map permanently. With this item, as long as your squad doesn't get fully wiped, you could just pop a distress signal and respawn. Tl;DR The 250$ edition will let squads respawn in an extraction shooter.
I get that the main matter of the subject is the fact that they essentially revoked your previous 150$ purchase that said "you will get all the benefits and this is the highest tier that there will ever be" but what's even more interesting to me is the 250$ package. 250$. To p2w. Truly spectacular, approaching mobile game tier.
Thing so consider here is that I own the old pay to win edition and if I want the new one the upgrade with taxes will cost me €123. Thats crazy, I can buy 2-3 solid games for that money. Thats an absurd amount of money considering I own the previous flagship bundle, crazy.
Yeah the people who justify it should be ousted and called out for their BS, because literally f'ing people out of their funds and continuing to predate on whales and kids with access to their parents' finances has always been awful and should always have been illegal. Fairly sure most of the people who agree with this crap are company plants hired to bully people into submitting to the "norm" when it's always been a grift.
This is a completely unnecessary edition of the game that you can purchase if you support the developers. The "P2W" aspects are a bit overblown, this is a game highly highly reliant on skill. Having a few extra slots in your inventory isn't going to save you from headshots or cause you to inflict headshots. The only thing I have an issue with is them retroactively changing some of the old editions of the game, but in general I think BSG are incredibly game developers and yeah, this isn't a deal breaker for me. I had the EOD edition before, and the upgrade to this new one is $100 and I might go for it. It's not "justified". It just is what it is. You don't need it. If you want it, it's there. It's not going to win you any matches, so the P2W thing seems a bit much to me. But for me this is extremely limited to BSG. I don't buy these expensive packages on other games. I just really fucking love Tarkov. There's nothing else like it, and I think the Devs in general have been amazing.
New bundle is only one problem... A couple of years ago they said that there won't be any pay to win elements in the game (before this new bundle there were some p2w feature, but not so big). Now we have 250$ bundle where you got increased size of pockets, even bigger stash than in eod, additional slot for flea market etc. And in the future update they'll add gadget that will invite players from your friend-list into your raid in the middle of the game 😅
Cyberpunk fans: But the anime was VERY good Edit: the people replied to me... With my exact point..But they changed the "Anime" in my original comment for "3 years later"...that's a bit...ironic...
what makes it even worse, is technically you are paying more money for less content because you get a bigger stash size and you start at level 3 with a couple of stats aswell as a higher rep with all the traders, literally removing the reason to even play the game.
as a tarkov player myself, I never wanted to buy EOD because I like unlocking the epsilon case and stuff. As you said, this takes even more content away from the game
get a bunch of cases too. Which basically invalidates the early game grind for junkbox. They give you a weapon case, so you effectively get two. Its just shit. It affects the economy. It makes the early game shorter for all players. EOD was already P2W with the stash size and the few extra tidbits you got. This is full on wheelchair mode and defeats the integrity of the game.
Oh no, they know. They truly know. They are just feeling real arrogant and were never punished for the sketchy scams they are pulling, so they are becoming audacious. Hell, they might even adore the additional attention it gives them, regardless if its positive or negative. Unfortunately, it's likely they have a way out or connections of some sort and they still will get away with it.
To add some context, the previous (soft) pay2win versions added shortcuts to content any "normal" version player could unlock later and they were soft buffs (mostly out of combat buffs). A lot of this new p2w content is marked as exclusive and directly buffs ingame power from additional ingame slots or even the ability to be ignored (well significantly reduced aggro) from the hostile NPCs. Additionally, the PvE mode has been requested by the community for years, and was advertised as part of the old discontinued $140 premium version EoD, it was now scrapped from EoD and added to this new $250 version instead...
The EOD practice servers are a different thing completely, that part wasn't removed and put into the Unheard edition, EOD players have had access to the pve practice servers for a while now. It was technically never advertised as a full pve version on EOD.
I've played Tarkov since 2017, I bought EOD, I have about 1,000 hours played in the game so I feel like I've gotten my money's worth. With all that being said, this has killed the game to me and the pay to win benefits are absurd. Things like starting at level 3 on your skills and AI not shooting you from 60 meters is actually busted
@@TheOneTrueFett I work full time, am a full time student, have family and friends, and play others games lol 1,000 hours is a ton for me for one game I barely have that on CS and I've been playing that for well over a decade
dark and darker isnt a tactical fps game though, tarkov players can't just migrate to it... But it is a solid game. Gray zone is the only good competition.
This is EXTRA insane when you know that the main draw for the vast majority of people who bought the Edge of Darkness version (the now-removed $140 version) WAS the 9 slot secure container (compared to the 4 slot standard edition version). They removed this version of the game and nobody could get the container anymore at all, but it's so obvious in hindsight. They took the far-and-away biggest draw from their (already expensive as hell) previous 'deluxe' edition and locked it behind an even HIGHER paywall because they know it was the main thing that got people to pay before.
Point me to a game that has fixed cheating. They don't exist. People hold Tarkov to such a ridiculous standard, then they give companies like Blizzard, Activision, and Valve a complete pass. I had 1500 raids last wipe, and I saw at most a dozen hackers. I can log into CounterStrike and find one in a half hour. BSG does more to combat hackers than the vast majority of game devs out there. And the other game mechanics? You mean the best gun mechanics in the entire industry? With the most customization? The most indepth *everything*? Tarkov is the best FPS ever made by a huge margin. I'm at the point where I feel like a lot of the hatred is straight up manufactured. I'll agree that they went about this "unheard edition" thing extremely poorly, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I had the EOD edition, and I'll likely spend the $100 and upgrade to this one.
@@DefianceOrDeath you’re huffing so much copium. Spend your money and enjoy the game man I hope it brings you happiness. But a lot of us will be moving on.
it hasnt been worth playing since the did the coop offline thing for EOD, when that was new they said it would be EOD only for a wipe or two because they dont have the servers, and now here we are with 4 different version of the same thing with all different price points (arena, offline coop, live tarkov and now progression coop)
@@DefianceOrDeath no the fuck they dont lmao, you can literally open the console in game and watch people use vacuum hacks, yet bsg hasnt done a single thing about it other than removing loose loot from the map.
@@DefianceOrDeath dozen from 1500 games? You're blind, lying or extremely lucky, take your pick. BTW cs:go hasn't have this amount of cheaters, it's cs2 problem. WOW we have customization on guns, this is the best game evah! What gun mechanics you're talking about? When you can't move anything on rails or when for years recoil won't let you to shoot properly? Or maybe you like deep mechanic of hunger , when you need to bring or find two full meals for 30 minutes raid? Or when your PMC can't aim for more than 30 seconds with her noodle arms? Best FPS... what a joke.
One of their arguments(which I find hilarious) was “it’s a feature and game mode” which is the perfect argument for why it should’ve been in the game since launch
Lvndmark (popular Tarkov streamer) caught live on stream BSG editing the description page for EOD (even though it's already off sale) removing the word "unique" before the 3x3 gamma container so they can add it to the new edition, and removing the example of Tarkov Arena being DLC so people can't use it against them to say the new Co-op PVE mode (something people have asked for, for years) should be considered DLC. Edit: didn't see this was shown in the last couple seconds of the video, that's my mistake. Also they won't add the Co-op mode as a separate purchasable because it'll be considered DLC and they'd have to give it to EOD players. Their community manager on their discord stated it's not DLC because it's a "feature of the new edition".
Star citizen literally sold ships at 1k ( I originally said 10k, my bad, thats actually incorrect), and they sold out in seconds. Not anywhere near the same lmao, but the sheer disrespect to say 'Yep buy this for access to all DLC' then deciding to retroactively go back on that because you want more money is way more detestable.
This just comes across like them publicly announcing that they've given up on the game. Years of under-delivering on a game with immense potential and now this lmao. Grey Zone Warfare lookin even more enticing now.
@@DarthWraithius SPtarkov is all i play now. If BSG are going to play silly buggers then they get what they deserve. I bought the game, so I reserve the right to play whatever mod i want. Also I don't have to deal with rampant cheaters everywhere. Also the mods you can get for it actually make it a much better game. You get localized dealers, multiple stashes, way better AI, AI PMCs. Its just awesome.
I saw the thumbnail and thought "Oh maybe they're including a real gun in the collectors edition" so I thought we would have a different kind of controversy for once
When greed is more important than good reputation and higher player base (which in return, brings more money). I was gifted this game by a friend who was passionate about the game, but the constant news about this game's direction put me off so much, that even my friend agrees with how ridiculous the developers are and has now since stopped playing a game he used to absolutely love and nolife over.
They pretend they do not understand what "downloadable content" is. Any game feature is a part of game content. Sure, they have to run single-player on their own servers to prevent 95% of piracy. To pay for this they should have sold SP separately for $20 - 30, having apologised and explained to EOD owners that this is the only feasible way to have SP developed and running. The rest of the content is content, DLC is DLC. Thus, must be included into EOD. For many customers, the main selling point for an expensive $150 EOD version back in 2016 - 2020 was that it includes all future content (downloadable one). It was a lot of money in 2016 to take from life and family and invest in the future. This is like construction workers charging you extreme amount for a bathroom renovation and you agree to make a deal because they include 10-year warranty. In 5 years they ask for extra unheard money because the warranty "does not cover electric wiring because this is a bathroom and not an electric power-station and they did not mean it was included".
The funny thing is that there's a *free* mod for Tarkov that basically let you do the same single-player thing just without the CO-OP called "SPT", it have significantly less loading time since you're hosting the server on your own machine and an active modder community who are capable of overhauling the entire lighting system, AI and gameplay. All for free, given that you have the base game first of course.
As someone who relatively recently got into the game, and who grinded for around a full WEEK just to get a secure container with 8 slots (still not as good as the 9 slot one that comes with this version) It feels ridiculous to just see them lean even more heavily into the PTW insanity. New players ALREADY have such a miserable time trying to get their feet under them in Tarkov, and now they also have to deal with whales who start with class 4 armor (basically impenetrable early game) and much stronger weapons, not to mention enough cash to buy even STRONGER gear from the traders (who also have more of their wares unlocked right away). Unbelievably greedy ass company with no respect for anyone who isn't A) a feral degen to grind all this out or B) someone with $250 to spend on a game.
Takes literally a few days of playing the game to reach level 15, unlock the flea, and have access to everything you're complaining about. If you know what you're doing you can grind it out in an afternoon. This game is indeed designed for feral degens. Not every game has to be designed for casuals. I mean, I'm assuming most Asmon viewers played or are aware of World of Warcrafts downfall? I'd argue one of the reasons it fell from grace is that it attempted to appeal to as wide of an audience as possible. It watered the game down over the years. Escape from Tarkov, you either love it or you hate it. It's not designed for everyone. And that's what makes those of us who love it care so much about it and respect the devs like we do. It's not Pay to "Win". Extra inventory slots aren't getting you any headshots man. They're not saving you from headshots either. I bought the base game back in like 2018, then upgraded to the 80$ edition, but since I bought the game for $40 the upgrade was another $40. I did that a few times, and I have the Edge of Darkness edition now, which would cost a new player $140. But I didn't drop $140 in one go. I spent that over three years of enjoying the hell out of a game. If you ever played WoW, you spent a hell of a lot more money on your subscription fees than I have on Tarkov-- and yes, they add fairly consistent and significant content to the game. Call it copium all you want, I've been gaming for 30 years and Tarkov is something special.
The game isn’t pay to win at all, just because your bad doesn’t mean you have to blame it on eod players, eod simply provides quality of life it’s not pay to win. Plus the game can’t even be pay to win because you can’t win it
@@DefianceOrDeath Tarkov has been a super unique and fun experience for me for sure. But this is insane cope. "Pay to win" doesn't mean you pay more and are guaranteed to win, obviously. It means you pay more for a GREATER chance at winning than your opponent. Starting a wipe with 40+ pen value ammunition and class 4 armor (for $250) will absolutely give you a gigantic advantage against players with 30 pen ammo and PACAs. Sure, you can always just hit a headshot on anyone and win every time, but that is an obvious cop out. Yeah, a CS:GO player with a deagle can beat a player with an AWP or rifle with their deagle, but they're still at a disadvantage. I'm NOT asking for the game to be designed for casuals, or for it to expand its playerbase. I'm pointing out that it is extremely PTW, and that adding MORE PTW insanity will only narrow its playerbase further and reduce dependency on player skill for the early game.
@@vybez3078 I don't think you have any understanding of what PTW means. It doesn't mean you pay to literally win, but that you pay for a tangible advantage. Not once did I 'blame me losing on EOD players'. More expensive editions provide better starting equipment and more secure container space. These are tangible advantages that give you an edge in both combat and other aspects of the game. Just because you can't "win" tarkov doesn't mean you can't have success-- if you kill another player, you 'won' the gunfight, etc.
@DefianceOrDeath yeah yeah yeah. The argument can be made about the p2w aspect of some things. BUT the EOD package PROMISED that all future DLC would be free. The pve coop mode is 100% dlc. They lied, they scammed, this is a rugpull. It's absolutely illegal. They even went back and changed their web page to cover their tracks. It's not about the money.
Biggest "micro"transaction i've ever seen was for WW3 the game. In closed beta they were selling special edition for 1 000 000. Yes, a million. And they reason for it was that it included role in a planned movie. That movie will most likely never exist because of all the issues with the game that included incopetent devs and greedy publishers. Now the game has new owners but it most likely won't see big improvement.
I bought the game when it was still new-ish, just the basic edition and never got into it tried it a few years after and it just felt like i either need to dedicate my life to this game or buy a different edition to have some type of progress Happy to see it stayed the same
There is no reason to play it anyways. I was among those who bought the EOD package in 2017 because I saw the potential, only to watch it descend into insanity. It’s been a year and some change since “the wiggle that killed Tarkov” came out, exposing the amount of hackers in game. The hackers, that they allow in fact, because how they make money is by allowing hackers to buy the game, boost an account to max level, sell it, and then they do a ban wave so that the hackers are still making a profit, and buying more accounts, or by simply making the bans so infrequent that the cheat makers still make a profit off selling hacks.
Really doubt that they´re not going to include everything promised for the people who already bought that pass. They have just increased the pricing of it for any future customers thinking about getting it. Granted to an insane price lol but it´s not like they´re not allowed or can be sued for it.
They seriously could have considered a 5 dollar a month subscription model, add seasons which each wipe, unlock cosmetic gizmo's for your gear that don't break immersion. Unlock extra things doing quests so people are stimulated to play more and longer. Essentially the same game, but now with seasonal favor for a subscription. Nothing pay to win. With the subscription you'd get the 3x3 box, without it you gotta work your way to the 2x4. Every streamer would love to pay for it, more so the hardcore players. Why not support them. They would pay 60 bucks every year total, for 'fluff'. This would be 240 with 4 years of play.
The exact reason why I stopped playing regular EFT and started playing single player tarkov. Not to mention the fact that Grey zone warfare, it's new competitor seems to be an actual transparent company, unlike Shittlestate
@@ZenMunk But they actually make games, Tarkov is just tarkov and they already fucked up enough times and made their game unplayable. They can just be lucky, that no other game comes close to it right now
Halo wars 2 did a similar thing btw with the 'we didn't mean ALL dlc when we said all dlc' nonsense. Their season pass gave access to 'future campaign DLC', and then they released an entire dlc campaign and said 'oh, we didn't mean this dlc', they released like a small 1-3 mission 'mini campaign' and made that free instead, and said you now have to buy the full campaign DLC.
In the 90's, Pepsi made a commercial showing a promotion where you could exchange "points" (earned per Pepsi bottle cap you collected) for stuff. Sunglasses, game consoles, etc. The last thing in the commercial was "1 million caps = fighter jet" and they showed some kid taxi'ing around in an F-16 or something. Most people understood it to be a joke, except one guy. He got 1 million caps and demanded the jet. Pepsi told him to hit the road. He sued AND WON. Pepsi had to pay him the equivalent worth of the fighter jet from the commercial.
@yggreuyri5822 what do you mean does it take long? To find a raid? Or play the raid? Often I would spend more time preparing for the raid in the menus than in the raid.
Never redo wipes for offline progression only. Classic branch will have wipes as usual. Wipes are a good thing, the games dies otherwise. Best tarkov moments are always first weeks of wipe.
Honestly players should march together and file and proper lawsuit againts this company to give them an example. The reason why companies like this abuse their players is because they are all just complaining but nobody is really taking any action.
After many years, the spring/summer wipe of 2023 was my last. There's just to many hackers. It is a shame about my eod edition though, not surprised they fucked me lol
They are probably going to grandfather in those that already bought it to include the "gold card". Just those purchasing it going forward won't get it. If they don't do this then the company is beyond help.
I'm reminded of a game called Steel Battalion that came with a $200 bundle that included a full mech controller with levers, pedals, and a joystick with 40-plus buttons-or you could get this piece of junk. How times have changed.
Tbh this game's monetization had red flags since the beginning. For example in the EU it's mandatory to show prives with taxes included, but they don't, and you can manually select your country to avoid paying taxes (highly illegal). Not to mention the EOD edition was already p2w
@@tenchu3770 getting ATLEAST 8 win streaks every time i die with a max. up to 15 surivals in a row, where's the copium my guy , i presented facts and my thoughts about it, but you keep staying mad at the world buddy ... it suits you
Honestly it should be seen as a calculated move when companies do this. They've known for years that most gamers don't want to just throw money at the devs to win. And that means most gamers are no longer their target demographic, because there are enough whales out there to throw money at the devs to win (or even for the *chance* to win) and keep generating rising profits every quarter for shareholders. Say it out loud and as often as possible: these companies are actively burning their customers' interests and long-term loyalty for the sake of pleasing shareholders in the short term.
Not really... us EOD owners got GAMMA container for $150... if you want GAMMA now you have to buy Unheard and pay $250. The game is still exactly the same for EOD.
A lot of people I know personally are pissed. This is a big jump for the company, being really particular and items and "found in raid" and their flea market changes, players were already struggling to get ahead or have a big break. But this is a huge kick in the ass to the playerbase.
How in this one area of the private sector, some companies can re-write already signed and agreed-to contracts legally and without and ramification is simply beyond my capability of understanding.
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Changing term and condition for previous purchase should be filed a lawsuit.
100%! seems like fraud to me
acording to some reddit ppl they have up to 30 days to walk back the changes and if they dont the community can send a lawsuit
It's a real shlong in the derriere
@@viejitaloca2810 we really trusting the average reddit user on this one
"When you place a pre-order, you automatically agree to our Terms of Service" and inside those Service Terms are the legal words that pretty much say "We can change this whenever we want to, however we want to, and there is nothing you can do about it". According to the courts, you are agreeing to the TOS because you willingly chose to buy this content. They will not side with you.
Just so you know, every single game you have purchased on Steam can have it's conditions changed at ANY TIME. Every single one. Steam can just remove the game from your library if these conditions change, and remove it from your account. There is nothing you can do about it, and it's 100% legal. It doesn't matter what country you are in, it won't be protected.
Majority of companies don't do it because of this reaction. Still though, it's legal. It's also why it's legal for Blizzard to "remake" Warcraft 3, release it, and completely make the CDs you purchased for WC3 in 2002 almost worthless. All legal.
That is an easy class action lawsuit for false advertising.
Well, not really, they're Russian.
russian, they will face no consequences.
@@0x2A_ Russian and dgaf..soo good luck with that lawsuit
@@0x2A_ We don't know how much money they have in their UK headquarters. It worth a try to shake that British purse.
@@idkttv Their base of operations is in the UK
I think legal action is required at this point to stop this BS.
nah if everyone talks shit about it and no one buys it capitalism will run its course and the company will die on its own. maybe legal action to get people their money back or revert the changes tho?
good luck with Legal action aggainst company based in Russia...
@@MK-on1pgthey are based in the uk
@@MK-on1pg they are russians yes. but theyre in the UK actually so they could truly get fucked for this
@@certifedcupcake yes but changing the tos afterwards means you can get a refund. So get all your money back and then they are ruined even faster plus you have more money.
Looks like final milking attempt before dev abandon the ship
it really does ,,, i was thinking that too yesterday, for some reason this all reminds me of an NFT rugpull
Yup, thought the same. Even made a comment saying this before I read this one.
This is the most logical hypothesis
I'd be surprised if the game was still around in 3 years
They want to abandon Tarkov for new projects. They are trying to kill their own game. That's the world we live in now.
Ubisoft syndrome spreading
na, BSG have been doing this since day one, there never should have been editions other than the base, sure people should be able to pay $10 more or what ever to help the developers but every single game package is p2w compared to the last.
@@sl4y3r Main editions were not that bad cause at least you can get the same stuff through the progression. The real stuff that is impossible to grind started to unearth only this year.
nah battlestate games has been like this since before the open alpha (2017)
This is even worse
@@zorkitipafed4626 they are all still p2w over the base edition, your paying money to get an advantage over other players because your pockets are deeper.
It's a hardcore game.... this also applies to getting hardcore F'ed apparently
The new hardcore mode; you have to pedal the generator attached to your PC now that there's no more money for bills
when its the same as cs2. where 99% of the player base cheats idk .. hardcore cheaters is the right term
It's not hardcore unless you get reamed IRL too.
@@Azmania3000plot twist: that pedal is a rental
Who cares. Losers will still play it.
"I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further"
You know it's bad when your company strategy can be explained with a Darth Vader quote
It's all fine until the Imperial March starts playing
Funny thing is apparently they were deleting certain words off of the webpage as LANDMARK was reading through it
They just killed themself, roaching out and waiting for gray zone warefare
Arena Breakout: Infinite also looks fairly promising to help fill the void tarkov will leave behind.
@@chillasduckthe real question is will it be on PC? If not them GZW would be the best alternative
@@newbplaygamesArena Breakout Infinite is the PC version lol
@@newbplaygames arena breakout will come to PC they already announced it
they were dead anyways game is shit anti cheat was worse
Reminder: This game has been in early access for 8 years now and still has no release date.
but yet its "beta" lmao
@@chubbyninjagaming BAYDUH!
It’s $80 for the “game” too 😂
That 250 is without taxes.
And still a huge amount of hackers.
But don't worry, as long as you go to the forums with evidence and complain about the hacker problem, they will ban you claiming there's no hacking problem.
Absolute trash tier devs.
0:12 Asmongold reacting to the price sounds like when Saruman got stabbed
No way! Who would've expected this from a former free to play, pay to win browser game developer?
well that was free at lest
And they use the word free as a buzzword too. One thing that really annoys me is when a company says you're getting something for free when you buy something, no, it's included in the price. Something is only ever free of you never have to give them money. "Free access to future DLCs" when you give us 250 dollars. Yeah that isn't free, stop it.
When we gave them 150 for eod 9 years ago, that was the idea.
@@crumbopulis My point is you aren't getting "free DLCs", you've paid for them, they say "you're getting free stuff" as a manipulation tactic, to make you feel like you're getting a good deal. It's scummy and I hate it.
@@Stevo.100 Well... No, because the whole idea of that is that paid dlc is an extra charge, but not to that version. As we can see that wasn't honored and people are rightfully furious. It's not rocket science.
Probably a manipulation tactic AND a legal tactic to weasel themselves out of trouble when doing the bait and switch.
"We never said you paid for it, we were doing it as a nice gesture, so we are not legally bound to give anything.
And things have changed so now you need to pay."
everything is free after you paid for it 😂
Isn't this about the same bait and switch that caused Fallout 76 to pay out on a class action lawsuit?
It's effectively the same thing, the sad part is they don't really have to care about getting sued because they'll make more money from this then they'll have to pay, such as every illegal thing done by any big company ever.
They cant be sued in an effective way. theyre in russia
@@badbadthingss As long as they do business in other countries they can be sued under the laws of that country
@@badbadthingss No they're not. They're in the UK
@@badbadthingss They're actually doing business from the UK instead, so yes they can be sued for this.
"We don't see that kind of stuff every day"
Narrator, looking at Ubisoft games: "We do."
"You don't see that everyday."
Oh, but we will.
Imagine paying that for tarkov when you can just pay 40 once for helldivers2 and join a grand galactic army. Smh
Keep spreading that democracy, Helldiver.
This will be positively noted by your democracy officer in favor for any future C-01 applications.
@@sirweebs2914 Thank you sir!🫡
Know that any children i am allowed to have shall be signing up for helldiver training by the age of 7 like any real patriot! They will do their part!
I love the game, but this kinda ignores Warbonds and the in-game cash shop.
Edit: Wow a wild amount of people butthurt over someone who thinks HD2 could possibly not be completely perfect. The fake propaganda rattle your brains?
@@TRDiscordian
I really don’t see how that’s really remotely on the same level as $250 ptw content that is unobtainable without spending real money. HD2 only lets you spend $20 maximum on a single purchase, and the game generously hands out the credits. You could realistically get all the credits you need for all warbonds within a few weeks. I don’t even think there’s a timer on the warbonds. As far as everyone understands they last forever. I think their in game currency system is extremely fair. They don’t even go as far as putting that fake “bonus xx credits” when buying a bigger pack, it just has the full amount right there.
@@TRDiscordianwhich are completely free if you just play the game since the „premium“ currency can just be found ingame fairly regularly. So nothing like tarkov or other cashgrab games.
Very bold for a game that still in beta for years
The beta tag is their out from being sued
Unfortunately it is common for devs of 2010's and newer ones. Warface was on beta for years, 7DTD is still in fucking alpha. Most of the modern indie devs prefer to release their games under the Early Acess terms.
@@zorkitipafed4626It should be illegal to stay in Early Access for more than 1 year after they charged people money for the product.
They took this move even further than DayZ, absurd hahahaha
@@zorkitipafed4626 7 days to die is still being developed?
W editor for putting in the lvndmark clip
DADDY TONY!
As someone who has purchased the EOD edition, what frustrates me the most is that the ability to play the game cooperatively offline is going to be locked behind this new edition.
This is what I have been waiting for, for a very long time, this feels like a complete kick in the nuts and the fact they have retroactively changed the wording on the storefront is ridiculous.
coop offline was literally the reason my friend and I bought it at the time it was released. he's been gone for years now but this news was what I needed to finally quit.
spt mod
250$ without transaction fee and without taxes
and with probably hundreds or even reaching a billion dollars already made over the years.
And without REGIONAL PRICING, meaning the new edition could cost more than the monthly minimum wage for some people lol
Why do I feel like those are included to the whole pack anyway?
345$ in canada with the 2 taxes
Unreal.
@@huyphamle159 they aren't, for me in Hungary, VAT is 27% extra
Asmon didn't even catch the worst parts of it. One of the things it gives you is access to a (currently unimplemented) distress signal item that will ping all people in your friends list and let them join your raid to help you. Remember, this is a extraction shooter, where when you die you're out of the map permanently. With this item, as long as your squad doesn't get fully wiped, you could just pop a distress signal and respawn.
Tl;DR The 250$ edition will let squads respawn in an extraction shooter.
thats wild
Is this is main online game or only in the new offline co op?
@@scandallpower did not specify in the post, and the item is currently unimplememted, so we won't know unless the devs clarify.
I mean it's called a pay2win edition for a reason 😂
theres soo many cheaters in the game does it really even matter at this point?
I get that the main matter of the subject is the fact that they essentially revoked your previous 150$ purchase that said "you will get all the benefits and this is the highest tier that there will ever be" but what's even more interesting to me is the 250$ package. 250$. To p2w. Truly spectacular, approaching mobile game tier.
Thing so consider here is that I own the old pay to win edition and if I want the new one the upgrade with taxes will cost me €123. Thats crazy, I can buy 2-3 solid games for that money. Thats an absurd amount of money considering I own the previous flagship bundle, crazy.
"your gold card has always been silver" - -games workshop- BSG
It's not even 5 months into 2024 and game prices went from $50 to $250 and some smuch will still say its justified
@datguy2061 You can count those “consoomers” over 2 of your hands? 😢
If it was a Sony exclusive it'd be the new norm.
"BuT tHeY HaVe To PaY FoR DeVeLoPmEnT sOmEhOw"
Yeah the people who justify it should be ousted and called out for their BS, because literally f'ing people out of their funds and continuing to predate on whales and kids with access to their parents' finances has always been awful and should always have been illegal. Fairly sure most of the people who agree with this crap are company plants hired to bully people into submitting to the "norm" when it's always been a grift.
This is a completely unnecessary edition of the game that you can purchase if you support the developers. The "P2W" aspects are a bit overblown, this is a game highly highly reliant on skill. Having a few extra slots in your inventory isn't going to save you from headshots or cause you to inflict headshots.
The only thing I have an issue with is them retroactively changing some of the old editions of the game, but in general I think BSG are incredibly game developers and yeah, this isn't a deal breaker for me. I had the EOD edition before, and the upgrade to this new one is $100 and I might go for it.
It's not "justified". It just is what it is. You don't need it. If you want it, it's there. It's not going to win you any matches, so the P2W thing seems a bit much to me.
But for me this is extremely limited to BSG. I don't buy these expensive packages on other games. I just really fucking love Tarkov. There's nothing else like it, and I think the Devs in general have been amazing.
New bundle is only one problem... A couple of years ago they said that there won't be any pay to win elements in the game (before this new bundle there were some p2w feature, but not so big). Now we have 250$ bundle where you got increased size of pockets, even bigger stash than in eod, additional slot for flea market etc. And in the future update they'll add gadget that will invite players from your friend-list into your raid in the middle of the game 😅
yeah .. on the pve servers im sure...
@@Hoplasa nah, then you need to have friends with this bundle, not happening
Star Wars Outlaws is wayyy to expensive.
-Tarkov: Hold my beer🍺
The Internet doesnt forget. Wrong move, buddies.
but a critical mass doesnt care. wasnt smart but how could ea and ubisoft still be in business?
Nintendo Fans: *Hehe*
I give it three days.
Cyberpunk fans: But the anime was VERY good
Edit: the people replied to me... With my exact point..But they changed the "Anime" in my original comment for "3 years later"...that's a bit...ironic...
@@araamahasla555 I'll give it a week, I'm feeling generous.
what makes it even worse, is technically you are paying more money for less content because you get a bigger stash size and you start at level 3 with a couple of stats aswell as a higher rep with all the traders, literally removing the reason to even play the game.
as a tarkov player myself, I never wanted to buy EOD because I like unlocking the epsilon case and stuff. As you said, this takes even more content away from the game
@@37DragonDudeYou still have the Epsilon questline with EOD though but I get your point.
@@bretertwhat's the point of grinding the digusting punisher quests to get a smaller case tho?
Then dont buy it 😅
get a bunch of cases too. Which basically invalidates the early game grind for junkbox. They give you a weapon case, so you effectively get two. Its just shit. It affects the economy. It makes the early game shorter for all players. EOD was already P2W with the stash size and the few extra tidbits you got. This is full on wheelchair mode and defeats the integrity of the game.
0:16 Lmao Asmon's surprise gasp 😅
Its pretty impressive that this got all the way to the public, and nobody thought for a single second that this would backfire horribly.
oh please, lots of people knew how sketchy the dev already has been. its no wonder why its one of the most controversial games of our time
Oh no, they know. They truly know. They are just feeling real arrogant and were never punished for the sketchy scams they are pulling, so they are becoming audacious. Hell, they might even adore the additional attention it gives them, regardless if its positive or negative. Unfortunately, it's likely they have a way out or connections of some sort and they still will get away with it.
To add some context, the previous (soft) pay2win versions added shortcuts to content any "normal" version player could unlock later and they were soft buffs (mostly out of combat buffs).
A lot of this new p2w content is marked as exclusive and directly buffs ingame power from additional ingame slots or even the ability to be ignored (well significantly reduced aggro) from the hostile NPCs.
Additionally, the PvE mode has been requested by the community for years, and was advertised as part of the old discontinued $140 premium version EoD, it was now scrapped from EoD and added to this new $250 version instead...
Russian prices are 100$ btw, prices for anything besides them is 250$
The EOD practice servers are a different thing completely, that part wasn't removed and put into the Unheard edition, EOD players have had access to the pve practice servers for a while now. It was technically never advertised as a full pve version on EOD.
@@MrSnrSquishy Yes but no one asked for coop practice servers. Everyone was asking for Coop PvE mode.
@@MustYouHaveAUsername you are right. I'm just pointing out the differences between the two since they are actually different.
@@MrSnrSquishy That's fair
I've played Tarkov since 2017, I bought EOD, I have about 1,000 hours played in the game so I feel like I've gotten my money's worth. With all that being said, this has killed the game to me and the pay to win benefits are absurd. Things like starting at level 3 on your skills and AI not shooting you from 60 meters is actually busted
Not gunna lie, I was thinking no way, this is some bullshit but they actually did that.... What in the actual.
How do you only have 1,000hrs from 2017 to now?
@@TheOneTrueFett cause the game is bad lol
@@badbadthingss fair point
@@TheOneTrueFett I work full time, am a full time student, have family and friends, and play others games lol 1,000 hours is a ton for me for one game I barely have that on CS and I've been playing that for well over a decade
It's like a changing seat classes on a plane. Before there's only one class and now there's Business class, first class, economy class.
You may think he is acting but that startled "whoa" was as genuine as they come.
Dark and Darker has never looked better.
What's that?
@@BeyondDaX d&d dungeon and dragon pvpve 3v3v3v3
@@BeyondDaX Just a better game.
Darker and Darker is just a baller game period.
dark and darker isnt a tactical fps game though, tarkov players can't just migrate to it... But it is a solid game. Gray zone is the only good competition.
Escape From Legal Obligation
it is russian game, what kind of legal are you talking about? 🤣
The company is uk based now @@Z3rgatul
Never buy anything from russians. Every Tarkov player is worse than cancer.
That was a perfect timing. Asmon sees the Price says huh and my TH-cam app crashes
We were essentially promised a full time pass to all dlc with EOD and then they changed it with this new edition which you now need instead
This is EXTRA insane when you know that the main draw for the vast majority of people who bought the Edge of Darkness version (the now-removed $140 version) WAS the 9 slot secure container (compared to the 4 slot standard edition version). They removed this version of the game and nobody could get the container anymore at all, but it's so obvious in hindsight. They took the far-and-away biggest draw from their (already expensive as hell) previous 'deluxe' edition and locked it behind an even HIGHER paywall because they know it was the main thing that got people to pay before.
Disgusting. They need a lawsuit against them asap
They want an extra 250$ but can’t fix cheating and other game mechanics
It’s simple, Tarkov is not worth playing anymore
Point me to a game that has fixed cheating. They don't exist. People hold Tarkov to such a ridiculous standard, then they give companies like Blizzard, Activision, and Valve a complete pass. I had 1500 raids last wipe, and I saw at most a dozen hackers. I can log into CounterStrike and find one in a half hour. BSG does more to combat hackers than the vast majority of game devs out there.
And the other game mechanics? You mean the best gun mechanics in the entire industry? With the most customization? The most indepth *everything*?
Tarkov is the best FPS ever made by a huge margin. I'm at the point where I feel like a lot of the hatred is straight up manufactured.
I'll agree that they went about this "unheard edition" thing extremely poorly, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I had the EOD edition, and I'll likely spend the $100 and upgrade to this one.
@@DefianceOrDeath you’re huffing so much copium. Spend your money and enjoy the game man I hope it brings you happiness. But a lot of us will be moving on.
it hasnt been worth playing since the did the coop offline thing for EOD, when that was new they said it would be EOD only for a wipe or two because they dont have the servers, and now here we are with 4 different version of the same thing with all different price points (arena, offline coop, live tarkov and now progression coop)
@@DefianceOrDeath no the fuck they dont lmao, you can literally open the console in game and watch people use vacuum hacks, yet bsg hasnt done a single thing about it other than removing loose loot from the map.
@@DefianceOrDeath dozen from 1500 games? You're blind, lying or extremely lucky, take your pick. BTW cs:go hasn't have this amount of cheaters, it's cs2 problem.
WOW we have customization on guns, this is the best game evah!
What gun mechanics you're talking about? When you can't move anything on rails or when for years recoil won't let you to shoot properly? Or maybe you like deep mechanic of hunger , when you need to bring or find two full meals for 30 minutes raid? Or when your PMC can't aim for more than 30 seconds with her noodle arms?
Best FPS... what a joke.
One of their arguments(which I find hilarious) was “it’s a feature and game mode” which is the perfect argument for why it should’ve been in the game since launch
Lvndmark (popular Tarkov streamer) caught live on stream BSG editing the description page for EOD (even though it's already off sale) removing the word "unique" before the 3x3 gamma container so they can add it to the new edition, and removing the example of Tarkov Arena being DLC so people can't use it against them to say the new Co-op PVE mode (something people have asked for, for years) should be considered DLC.
Edit: didn't see this was shown in the last couple seconds of the video, that's my mistake. Also they won't add the Co-op mode as a separate purchasable because it'll be considered DLC and they'd have to give it to EOD players. Their community manager on their discord stated it's not DLC because it's a "feature of the new edition".
Did anyone throw the old page onto the Internet Archive, by any chance?
Tarkov reaching star citizen level macro-transactions.
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO
that is quite the bar to reach.
Star citizen literally sold ships at 1k ( I originally said 10k, my bad, thats actually incorrect), and they sold out in seconds. Not anywhere near the same lmao, but the sheer disrespect to say 'Yep buy this for access to all DLC' then deciding to retroactively go back on that because you want more money is way more detestable.
Star citizen will give you a really nicely modeled ship, they are selling a 3x3 pouch and inventory space for 250$.
Nah star citizen still in its own league with a 50000$ bundle 😂
This just comes across like them publicly announcing that they've given up on the game. Years of under-delivering on a game with immense potential and now this lmao. Grey Zone Warfare lookin even more enticing now.
aside from getting spawn camped off a helo lol
Grey zone looks like a game literally designed to steal your money. Dont buy the purchased hype
You can still upgrade from EOD to this for a low low price of 100$ so there is that
i played the previous version of this called "contract wars." the p2w rears its head again
Oh god, it was such a long time since I played it, like 10 years or what, p2w were extreme in that one
now the lot of the playerbase will be playing Escape From Escape From Tarkov
Either that or the single player mod that BSG despises
@@DarthWraithius SPtarkov is all i play now. If BSG are going to play silly buggers then they get what they deserve. I bought the game, so I reserve the right to play whatever mod i want. Also I don't have to deal with rampant cheaters everywhere. Also the mods you can get for it actually make it a much better game. You get localized dealers, multiple stashes, way better AI, AI PMCs. Its just awesome.
I saw the thumbnail and thought "Oh maybe they're including a real gun in the collectors edition" so I thought we would have a different kind of controversy for once
Every purchase comes with a complementary, "Yeet cannon"! Yes that's a real gun.
Mine came with a Gun
This is basically like a landlord charging more for the monthly rent while the yearly leasing contract still has months left
When greed is more important than good reputation and higher player base (which in return, brings more money). I was gifted this game by a friend who was passionate about the game, but the constant news about this game's direction put me off so much, that even my friend agrees with how ridiculous the developers are and has now since stopped playing a game he used to absolutely love and nolife over.
Man, you know Battlestate Games royally fucked up when they get featured in an Asmon video
That HOOOH
you know you gone to far when a multimillion streamer gets jump scared by a 3 digit number
They pretend they do not understand what "downloadable content" is. Any game feature is a part of game content.
Sure, they have to run single-player on their own servers to prevent 95% of piracy. To pay for this they should have sold SP separately for $20 - 30, having apologised and explained to EOD owners that this is the only feasible way to have SP developed and running. The rest of the content is content, DLC is DLC. Thus, must be included into EOD.
For many customers, the main selling point for an expensive $150 EOD version back in 2016 - 2020 was that it includes all future content (downloadable one). It was a lot of money in 2016 to take from life and family and invest in the future.
This is like construction workers charging you extreme amount for a bathroom renovation and you agree to make a deal because they include 10-year warranty. In 5 years they ask for extra unheard money because the warranty "does not cover electric wiring because this is a bathroom and not an electric power-station and they did not mean it was included".
"Who did you lose this all to?"
"The guys who made dead trigger"
The funny thing is that there's a *free* mod for Tarkov that basically let you do the same single-player thing just without the CO-OP called "SPT", it have significantly less loading time since you're hosting the server on your own machine and an active modder community who are capable of overhauling the entire lighting system, AI and gameplay. All for free, given that you have the base game first of course.
look up MPT and SIT
As someone who relatively recently got into the game, and who grinded for around a full WEEK just to get a secure container with 8 slots (still not as good as the 9 slot one that comes with this version) It feels ridiculous to just see them lean even more heavily into the PTW insanity. New players ALREADY have such a miserable time trying to get their feet under them in Tarkov, and now they also have to deal with whales who start with class 4 armor (basically impenetrable early game) and much stronger weapons, not to mention enough cash to buy even STRONGER gear from the traders (who also have more of their wares unlocked right away). Unbelievably greedy ass company with no respect for anyone who isn't A) a feral degen to grind all this out or B) someone with $250 to spend on a game.
Takes literally a few days of playing the game to reach level 15, unlock the flea, and have access to everything you're complaining about. If you know what you're doing you can grind it out in an afternoon.
This game is indeed designed for feral degens. Not every game has to be designed for casuals. I mean, I'm assuming most Asmon viewers played or are aware of World of Warcrafts downfall? I'd argue one of the reasons it fell from grace is that it attempted to appeal to as wide of an audience as possible. It watered the game down over the years. Escape from Tarkov, you either love it or you hate it. It's not designed for everyone. And that's what makes those of us who love it care so much about it and respect the devs like we do.
It's not Pay to "Win". Extra inventory slots aren't getting you any headshots man. They're not saving you from headshots either.
I bought the base game back in like 2018, then upgraded to the 80$ edition, but since I bought the game for $40 the upgrade was another $40. I did that a few times, and I have the Edge of Darkness edition now, which would cost a new player $140. But I didn't drop $140 in one go. I spent that over three years of enjoying the hell out of a game. If you ever played WoW, you spent a hell of a lot more money on your subscription fees than I have on Tarkov-- and yes, they add fairly consistent and significant content to the game.
Call it copium all you want, I've been gaming for 30 years and Tarkov is something special.
The game isn’t pay to win at all, just because your bad doesn’t mean you have to blame it on eod players, eod simply provides quality of life it’s not pay to win. Plus the game can’t even be pay to win because you can’t win it
@@DefianceOrDeath Tarkov has been a super unique and fun experience for me for sure. But this is insane cope. "Pay to win" doesn't mean you pay more and are guaranteed to win, obviously. It means you pay more for a GREATER chance at winning than your opponent. Starting a wipe with 40+ pen value ammunition and class 4 armor (for $250) will absolutely give you a gigantic advantage against players with 30 pen ammo and PACAs. Sure, you can always just hit a headshot on anyone and win every time, but that is an obvious cop out. Yeah, a CS:GO player with a deagle can beat a player with an AWP or rifle with their deagle, but they're still at a disadvantage. I'm NOT asking for the game to be designed for casuals, or for it to expand its playerbase. I'm pointing out that it is extremely PTW, and that adding MORE PTW insanity will only narrow its playerbase further and reduce dependency on player skill for the early game.
@@vybez3078 I don't think you have any understanding of what PTW means. It doesn't mean you pay to literally win, but that you pay for a tangible advantage. Not once did I 'blame me losing on EOD players'. More expensive editions provide better starting equipment and more secure container space. These are tangible advantages that give you an edge in both combat and other aspects of the game. Just because you can't "win" tarkov doesn't mean you can't have success-- if you kill another player, you 'won' the gunfight, etc.
@DefianceOrDeath yeah yeah yeah. The argument can be made about the p2w aspect of some things. BUT the EOD package PROMISED that all future DLC would be free. The pve coop mode is 100% dlc. They lied, they scammed, this is a rugpull. It's absolutely illegal. They even went back and changed their web page to cover their tracks. It's not about the money.
Biggest "micro"transaction i've ever seen was for WW3 the game. In closed beta they were selling special edition for 1 000 000. Yes, a million. And they reason for it was that it included role in a planned movie. That movie will most likely never exist because of all the issues with the game that included incopetent devs and greedy publishers. Now the game has new owners but it most likely won't see big improvement.
I bought the game when it was still new-ish, just the basic edition and never got into it
tried it a few years after and it just felt like i either need to dedicate my life to this game or buy a different edition to have some type of progress
Happy to see it stayed the same
There is no reason to play it anyways. I was among those who bought the EOD package in 2017 because I saw the potential, only to watch it descend into insanity. It’s been a year and some change since “the wiggle that killed Tarkov” came out, exposing the amount of hackers in game. The hackers, that they allow in fact, because how they make money is by allowing hackers to buy the game, boost an account to max level, sell it, and then they do a ban wave so that the hackers are still making a profit, and buying more accounts, or by simply making the bans so infrequent that the cheat makers still make a profit off selling hacks.
My banks fraud department deff calling me if I buy this
Really doubt that they´re not going to include everything promised for the people who already bought that pass.
They have just increased the pricing of it for any future customers thinking about getting it. Granted to an insane price lol but it´s not like they´re not allowed or can be sued for it.
The $250 jump scare lmao
I cant wait to see how my tarkov fanboy friend will defend this one.
My brother, in my case.
Even the fanboys arent defending this one
They seriously could have considered a 5 dollar a month subscription model, add seasons which each wipe, unlock cosmetic gizmo's for your gear that don't break immersion. Unlock extra things doing quests so people are stimulated to play more and longer. Essentially the same game, but now with seasonal favor for a subscription. Nothing pay to win. With the subscription you'd get the 3x3 box, without it you gotta work your way to the 2x4. Every streamer would love to pay for it, more so the hardcore players. Why not support them. They would pay 60 bucks every year total, for 'fluff'. This would be 240 with 4 years of play.
i legit thought this was like a magic set that was a parody of murders at karlov with alot of guns
The exact reason why I stopped playing regular EFT and started playing single player tarkov. Not to mention the fact that Grey zone warfare, it's new competitor seems to be an actual transparent company, unlike Shittlestate
More games become like this, the more ships will add to my pirate fleet
This isn't shooting themselves in the foot. Hell, this isn't even taking a shotgun to it. They dropped a bomb on it.
Activision, EA, Ubisoft and Blizzard have been doing it for years and if anything they keep getting bigger
They held a grenade to their forehead. Very Russian thing to do.
@@spotcsg5067 And it’s very American to take this grenade and pay $250 for it.
they raised money and got their game in the spotlight. Servers have seen an uptick in players since patch dropped. You guys really crying over nothing
@@ZenMunk But they actually make games, Tarkov is just tarkov and they already fucked up enough times and made their game unplayable. They can just be lucky, that no other game comes close to it right now
Halo wars 2 did a similar thing btw with the 'we didn't mean ALL dlc when we said all dlc' nonsense. Their season pass gave access to 'future campaign DLC', and then they released an entire dlc campaign and said 'oh, we didn't mean this dlc', they released like a small 1-3 mission 'mini campaign' and made that free instead, and said you now have to buy the full campaign DLC.
In the 90's, Pepsi made a commercial showing a promotion where you could exchange "points" (earned per Pepsi bottle cap you collected) for stuff. Sunglasses, game consoles, etc. The last thing in the commercial was "1 million caps = fighter jet" and they showed some kid taxi'ing around in an F-16 or something. Most people understood it to be a joke, except one guy. He got 1 million caps and demanded the jet. Pepsi told him to hit the road. He sued AND WON. Pepsi had to pay him the equivalent worth of the fighter jet from the commercial.
My fellow gamers are the most gaslit, stockholm'd out consumer base in existence :/
Bro hasn't even seen the tulip vending scene in the olde days pff
Sports gamers exist to be ripped off.
i stopped playing this game like 3 years ago because i hate the wipes. having to do all that shit all over is annoying. hearing this? yea ill pass
does this game take long to play?
i started playing spt, more fun
@yggreuyri5822 what do you mean does it take long? To find a raid? Or play the raid? Often I would spend more time preparing for the raid in the menus than in the raid.
hey for 250$ you can save ur offline mode and never re-do wipe! only 250$$$ !!!!
Never redo wipes for offline progression only. Classic branch will have wipes as usual. Wipes are a good thing, the games dies otherwise. Best tarkov moments are always first weeks of wipe.
Taking the star citizen route I see
Honestly players should march together and file and proper lawsuit againts this company to give them an example. The reason why companies like this abuse their players is because they are all just complaining but nobody is really taking any action.
I believe this is called bait and switch , and is VERY illegal. Activision been doing for years on CoD and getting away with it. Money rules all.
They're the only successful milsim extraction shooter and they're actively shooting themselves in the face with these insane changes.
Not for long. I only played Tarky for about six months last year, they deserve to fade into obscurity with the shit they've pulled.
Self applied Head, Eyes
After many years, the spring/summer wipe of 2023 was my last. There's just to many hackers. It is a shame about my eod edition though, not surprised they fucked me lol
and people will still play and ppl who said they'll quit will come back in 6 months rinse and repeat the cycle continues
and people will still play and ppl who said they'll quit will come back in 6 months rinse and repeat the cycle continues
They are probably going to grandfather in those that already bought it to include the "gold card". Just those purchasing it going forward won't get it.
If they don't do this then the company is beyond help.
You can silently change your option from click ok to install to cancel
The most funny things is that all enemy AI will ignore you if you equip the device from the $250 version. “Realistic and hardcore”
I'm reminded of a game called Steel Battalion that came with a $200 bundle that included a full mech controller with levers, pedals, and a joystick with 40-plus buttons-or you could get this piece of junk. How times have changed.
That Steel Battalion controller was amazing. A shame it never saw use beyond that lone title.
The start up sequence on that game bonkers with all the switch flips and button presses, but beyond that gameplay just wasn't very fun.
Tbh this game's monetization had red flags since the beginning. For example in the EU it's mandatory to show prives with taxes included, but they don't, and you can manually select your country to avoid paying taxes (highly illegal). Not to mention the EOD edition was already p2w
The price tag jump scared him.
This was one of the few times where the person spamming in chat actually backed up what they were saying 😂
still cant believe people are playing this game knowing that every lobby they queue into has at least 1 cheater
in my last 50 raids i've only died about 4 or 5 times, havent seen so few hackers in ages
@@Hoplasa dont die from your overdose of copium
Yeah, its unplayable due to hackers.
@@tenchu3770 how is me saying some facts being "copium"? you slow or just stupid? i honostly would like to hear your flawed thinking
@@tenchu3770 getting ATLEAST 8 win streaks every time i die with a max. up to 15 surivals in a row, where's the copium my guy , i presented facts and my thoughts about it, but you keep staying mad at the world buddy ... it suits you
this is like Netflix saying is ok to share with family until it isn't
I guess you could say it's
Unheard of
This must be where Kotick went after activision lol
Honestly it should be seen as a calculated move when companies do this. They've known for years that most gamers don't want to just throw money at the devs to win. And that means most gamers are no longer their target demographic, because there are enough whales out there to throw money at the devs to win (or even for the *chance* to win) and keep generating rising profits every quarter for shareholders. Say it out loud and as often as possible: these companies are actively burning their customers' interests and long-term loyalty for the sake of pleasing shareholders in the short term.
Some lawyer out there is going to have the easiest case of his life, and expensive champagne after
Stuff like this and all the agendas are why I've been visiting older games I haven't played yet as of late
Bro getting the EOD edition was a mistake…
Not really... us EOD owners got GAMMA container for $150... if you want GAMMA now you have to buy Unheard and pay $250.
The game is still exactly the same for EOD.
A lot of people I know personally are pissed. This is a big jump for the company, being really particular and items and "found in raid" and their flea market changes, players were already struggling to get ahead or have a big break. But this is a huge kick in the ass to the playerbase.
How in this one area of the private sector, some companies can re-write already signed and agreed-to contracts legally and without and ramification is simply beyond my capability of understanding.
Because this is the one area of the private sector that doesn't have major lawsuits to set precedent. That needs to change.
And this is why I will forever stick with the spt mod, I ain't paying to plaply singleplayer when I can just do that for free
Can you believe all this started from horse armor?
It all started from people saying microtransactions aren't a problem because you don't have to buy them, the slippery slope is real
The actual patient zero of all of this is the MapleStory cash shop.
@@MK_ULTRA420| Apparently I dodged a bullet by playing MS1 but never spending money on the game. _(Same deal with MS2, for good measure.)_
@@RaceBandit You dodged a tank shell 👍
Textbook exit strategy. Player numbers may be really bad and they're getting one last check.
I bought the full edition 6 years ago and recently I got hacked and my account got banned. 0 help from left devs. I'll never support them again.
this is actual theft lmao
I had bought the Edge of Darkness edition but I play the single player mod way more lol