I came home on leave once and went on holiday two days later, having packed and instinctively put into my jacket pockets, compass, notebook, bloody great lock knife, field dressing and a ball of paracord. Still oblivious to my error, I emptied my pockets to go through airport security as one does. Once the alarms had stopped (and the angry glare from amongst others, my wife), the police and security listened to my reason for having the knife in my possession. They were very good about it and after a laugh (and a warning) they let me send my knife to my home address by post in a giffy bag. I've never been so embarrassed, a complete mind fart. After my holiday, i found that my knife was there at home waiting for me. A week later, I was on my way back to work, knife and all. So I can understand how one can simply forget the context.
Someone made allegations against me and the police arrived at my house and arrested me, When I gat to the station I had a Opinel knife in my pocket and when I was released I got it back. When they asked me to empty my pockets I explained each item for the log and when I put my left pocket contents on the desk I said," Well used hankerchief, lip balm and garden knife" and no-one batted an eyelid. On being released I even got brought home and the person who accused me was dimissed from their job.
Going on a picnic with a purposely constructed picnic hamper furnished with plates, cups (maybe saucers) and steel cutlery, including table knives in the boot, would, one hopes, constitute a good reason to have these in one’s car en route to a popular picnic site with the family or friends……?
Typical affluent middle class justification. The fact is picnics are not the exclusive reserve of snobs who take a harrods hamper with them. Ordinary people take rather naff food on picnic or don't take any food, they plan to buy food near to where they'll picnic and have a knife for things like cutting cake slices after they've bought it. Why must people justify themselves to the police that they don't want to eat a cake like a wild animal, are they supposed to gouge chunks out of the cake with thier hand?
Is having a `survival' tool on you good reason? By its very nature you never know when your going to need it, and as the saying goes `better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it'. I'm sure a good barrister could make a good case for it ;)
Just as a genuine question Ive known Chefs (and been one myself) carrying ones own personal kitchen knife in a special canvas roll in a bag or something to be used in a place of work, surely this would come under "Good reason" for carrying such an article. Many thanks!
you are fine so long as it is just you going between work and home I believe. if you stop off somewhere else along the way with it in your possession then it may not be.
How about an Olympic javelin thrower, ok to have one strapped to your roof when going to a contest(presumably) but what if you go to a supermarket off your route home to buy your dinner ingredients?
I really really like the rule about intention of causing harm to others. If I was carrying a machine gun for self defence it's obvious that I if was attacked and I see them coming I would cause harm to others. But I am carrying it to prevent harm to me, I am not intending to hurt anyone, or even have to fire the weapon. I not intending to cause harm. How can the police or military carry weapons? They aren't carrying them for self defence but to actually be able to go to a place and kill someone. Should anyone be wondering about me carrying a machine gun, I would much prefer to carry a small revolver as they can be carried without the same concerns over springs and maintenance
In my opinion you can stop at the pub on the way home, it's tied up and in a bag. But I would suggest being in good behaviour. Don't give them an excuse to search you
@@JimboXX78 Deterrent is not a defence; to defend yourself you necessarily have to intend to use it if provoked. It is why so much attention is paid to nuclear weapons, and the willingness to use them; unless they would actually be used, they are paperweights. And yes, armed police and military are prepared to fire their weapons. There is a phrase "don't point a gun at someone unless you are prepared to [and I would suggest justified] kill them". They do not carry them for "deterrent" value.
Having a black belt you might appreciate this. In my high school class was a Vietnamese boy who was a master of martial arts. He gave a demo to the class where he took a folded piece of paper (ordinary 20 lb. copy paper), folded it in half and proceeded to cut through a 1/4 inch thick fat pencil. In the armed forces we were taught that "anything" in the right (or wrong!) hands can be a weapon if you know how to use it as such. On an airplane, in first class, a ceramic cup of plate could be deadly! Simply break it and you have a very sharp edge! Maybe the law might consider intent an important defense in this case. "I intended to use the cup to drink my tea, not murder my seat mate". "I intended to use the box knife at work, not murder my seat mate as I traveled home on the bus." Nor did I intend to murder the clerk in the coffee shop next to my place of employment.
So the moral here is ; if you find a machete (or firearm etc) in the street, get your arse out of there quick smart unless you want a courtcase & likely imprisonment.
My concern, is the steady and consistent drive to disarm the population. Who will be left to defend our personal security and businesses in a climate of social disorder and chaos. In California they have downgraded thefts of less than a $1000 as a misdemeanor. In the UK any criminal damage that involves the victim likely to be insured, gets treated with a belated visit by a forensic evidence gathering officer. In the Devon and Cornwall region respected country folk who have good reason to possess firearms are having their licences revoked, because the police slipped up on returning firearms to an individual who was later deemed to be unstable. Centuries ago, the population HAD to practise archery, this had nothing to do with hunting, sport or self defence. Now we have a population where some might be able to pot a rabbit with a boy's toy air rifle if they get hungry enough. In a chaotic social disorder, does anyone really believe the police will turn up to protect them?
Part of the issue is that the cultural artefacts (in the Lev Vygotsky sense) AKA Semiotic myths (In the Roland Barthes sense) change over time which in turn changes the semantic range and therefore meaning in a specific context. So what is written in the 1950's and received from that writing may be different to even the 1980's. In fact the meaning of the word "gay" has had 4 meanings in my lifetime and originally meant "promiscuous woman" in the 17th century. I would recommend that anyone reading law gets to grips with the "Historical Critical" method as sometimes even moving 50 miles down the road changes the meaning of a word. EG "I will borrow it to you" instead of "I will lend it to you" near where I live. There is also the fact that words that are subjective in common usage are sometimes explicitly defined in law. EG SI 2013-377 section 1.4 explicitly states that "reasonable time period" is no more than twice what an able bodied person would take to do a task. I have relied on my abilities with this so many times to get judgements set aside it's nuts.
The law as semiotic myth. I like it. The essential myth of the law is that it is determinate rather than random in it's execution. Statistical probability of being found guilty of having a machete in the boot of your car whilst you are in the pub is dependent upon a lot of things, having technically broken a law is the least of these. You would either have to be acting in a suspicious manner such as to bring yourself to the attention of the law or simply be unfortunate enough to subject to a random police search during a relatively rare crackdown on weapons. Context is a lot more determinate than the law so far as consequence goes. I keep a folding shovel in the back of my car, it is there for a reason, to dig myself out of an awkward situation if need be, furthermore it resides there permanently with other artifacts including a blanket, a spare can of petrol, a hi viz jacket, warning triangle, battery lantern and a camping stove complete with MREs etc. It would have to be a very vindictive or stupid copper who wanted to take issue with it. Oh but it is a locking folding shovel and therefore prohibited by statute !!
About 2 years ago, a police officer pulled up close to my house. I was using a camping knife to help pull weeds out of my front garden. I asked her a few questions about the knife, as I also took out away from home when I was camping. To be fair she said I had a reasonable cause to use it to lever out weeds, and if I was going camping (with camping kit in tow!) that would also be ok, but if was just carrying it around on me on a day to day basis then that would be illegal as I had no reasonable cause to carry it. I cant argue with this, I cant think of any other reason I would carry it (in my circumstances) - I think the law is fair!
A handbag can be used as a weapon. So can 6' heels or a hairbrush, or even a belt buckle. When will these be made illegal? I've seen a skinny kid swing a padlock on the end of a length of string, that he could do more damage with than a lock knife.
Very interesting video mr BB! As a tree worker, I carry axes,machetes,big knives, bill hooks and all manner of chainsaws. My truck is always awash with bladed articles. Every time some **** attacks someone with a blade/axe/etc it makes my job more difficult.
Same here. Some of my work means that I'm issued with a card giving me lawful authority to carry these things, but that same work takes me to places where I get searched and questioned regularly, hence justifying the card. Quite recently a security guard ignored the axes and chainsaws in the truck, but took exception to the little Opinel pen knife in my pocket! I'm quite sure that, as the old phrase goes, a little bit of knowledge (his belief that 'lock-knives' are banned outright) is a dangerous thing . . . more dangerous than the penknife!!
Unfortunately the CPS will proceed with any case if they think they MAY get a result. Common sense very rarely enters the equation. That is what a jury and defence barrister is for.
And fortunately for British justice and long live trial by jury, a jury can bring in a verdict that contradicts the directions of the judge if they feel that is justified, there is a recent case in point.
Sadly, the police never use discretion these days. They always try to ruin lives with prosecutions.. the amount of money spent for dragging people through courts for minor things is a joke!
I once went to court for a minor driving offence (police love to prosecute rather than use discretion) I work in construction and when I emptied my work pants into the tub for the xray I have 2 knives. The security guard saw them and covered them with paper and removed them, he looked at me and said "the paper work is a nightmare if I acknowledge them"
The example I use to explain this is a chef carrying chef knives on his way to or from an arranged work shift as opposed to carrying the same knives on a weekend when he/she was off duty and not back in work until Monday.
I got stopped by the police with a large military style knife. I also had a rucksack, tent and a rail ticket to the Peak District. Therefore I had no problems from the cops. (The knife was in my bag).
Honestly I think the best thing to do if finding some kind of weapon like that would be to remain in the area and call the police to come and collect it. This both for the purpose of protecting yourself from accusations and to avoid contaminating any evidence that may be present thereon said weapon. After all you have no way of knowing what other offences the weapon may or may not be linked to. Thus by interfering with you could risk even worse consequences than just the accusation of possession eg tampering with evidence or even being accused of having some involvement in any other offences involving said weapon.
Would the court make a distinction between having forgotten the knife and having it knowingky? For example, would the court give a lighter sentence for forgetting?
If you found a knife/machete on the road, and thought "I'd better take that to a police station.", it might be prudent to phone 101, and tell them that that's what you intend to do.
But a knife isn't made to cause injury, it's made to cut things like wood, insulation, knotted shoelaces, loads of things really. I used to carry a gardeners knife and one cat was very lucky I did as it had got it's leather collar caught on some wire and was close to dying though throttling. I did not carry it to necessarily free choking cats but just in case I needed it...and that did not include attacking some random person. All of our laws are aimed at the law-abiding as they are the only ones that will take any notice of them; a true criminal couldn't give a toss.
As a former Venture Scout, I carry a UK legal SAK. Not as a weapon, but as a tool with many applications. The scissors, bottle opener (of course) and tweezers are often useful. And the mini screwdriver in the corkscrew is a friend of anyone who wears specs! Your gardeners knife (?) can't do what my SAK does, but my SAK can do what your knife did. Put simply...just use your noggin. Why risk falling foul of the law?
Here in the uk, discretion does not exist with police. And many judges don't live in the real world.. they prosecute people and ruin peoples lives... rather than educating and giving a warning, they prosecute, trap you, and go for a conviction.
The moral here is that if you find a lethal weapon in the street then leave it alone for the person who wants it for nefarious reasons. Is it any wonder that law abiding citizens who try to do the right thing and then become the accused for doing so turn against the police and legal system?
I seem to recall a case, a few years ago, where a cop found a sawn-off shotgun in his back garden one morning, picked it up and took it to his station... whereupon HE was charged with possession of an illegal firearm. Forget the details but I recall he WAS convicted over it, despite being a cop, (presumably) handling the firearm in a responsible manner and having what should be a reasonable excuse for possessing it.
I don't think he was a policeman but _did_ have issues with his local constabulary as they were doing in his opinion too little about violent gang activity in his area. He was arrested, charged and prosecuted (5 year minimum term) because unlicenced _possession_ of a firearm is a strict liability offence, i.e. courts are barred from allowing all but the most extreme of defenses. Yes it's wrong but sadly most people don't care until it happens to them. And on a side note the police decided against charging either the parents or the amateur manufacturer of a licence-requiring airgun after it was accidentally discharged, killing a young teenager. As far as I'm aware no explanation as to why has ever been given.
So it would seem the only safe thing to do if you find a firearm is to call the police and stay with it (but not pick it up or otherwise take it into your possession) until they come pick it up?
@@tlangdon12 Yes. And to be honest it could quite possibly be a 'dirty' gun, i.e. it's been used to shoot someone and dumped in an attempt to dispose of the evidence, so I'd want to avoid putting my prints on it.
This is why we are fucked as a race, surely the burden of proof should be on the police to assitain the person finding the firearm was going to use it maliciously.
I got a guilty plea set aside, on a knuckle duster from after my home was attacked in 2019 and Judge Walsh at Bolton Crown said i had better have a better excuse when i come back ,than a gang on the corner baying for my blood. I did ,a letter from cps saying Police had ordered me out of my home to be arrested and it was in my back pocket at the time, So i was just following orders and they had to drop it
I have been thinking if bio weapon development is permitted if you do it for defensive purposes Could you argue you are wearing a knuckle duster not to hurt or damage the other person but to prevent harm to your bones in your hand 😃
The law forgets what it said earlier and mangles the language in the process. How many laws are there on the statute books that are actually mutually contradictory because of poor drafting or failure to properly repeal and supercede it with a later act of Parliament? More than a few I will guess. You may well argue that is what Judges are for, but then everybody is entitled to their opinion and mine is that the law can sometimes be an ass if it fails to tie up it's loose ends.
My worry is a knife for Bushcraft. I do a lot of Bushcraft and need to travel for short periods threw public with my pack. It contains an axe a bucksaw and a 5 inch Bushcraft knife. They are wood working tools.
In a previous video, I think BB stated that if you were clearly going to/from somewhere for the purpose of bushcraft, you are OK. Might be worth you looking at his other vids?
No. Carry something as a potential weapon and you might find it taken and used against you when you start waving it around like a Rambo wannabe. And I say this as a 5ft4 woman.
@@LG-cz6ls You do know that real criminals don't abide by any law period so why wouldn't you want to at least have the option of carrying something to try and defend yourself? Sorry but I don't get your train of thought at all, it is a sad fact that there are dangerous people out there who are looking for weak victims.
@@steveclark.. "You do know that real criminals don't abide by any law period" Oh, dear. I do know "real criminals", or as reasonable people would put it, people convicted of crimes. In the real world, people have their own (different) standards. Just as politicians (who never indulge in criminal activity...) do. But, on a practical, self defence note; If you don't know how to use a knife, don't carry one. Unless you want to see the handle sticking out of your ribs. Which is not to be recommended.
@@LG-cz6ls I agree but you don't have to carry a knife, there are plenty of other items that you can use to defend yourself. Choose what you want and train with it, being prepared to defend yourself shouldn't be illegal, that's the crazy part to me.
I have had a man try to rape me, thank you very much. It's a sadly common experience. And I defended myself without a weapon. Luckily enough, training and fight kicked in, no doubt growing up in a violent household with three brothers helped. Flight would also have worked, but people also freeze. Having a weapon does not mean you can or would use it effectively, it just adds another element to the problem. I'm not taking lessons from some dickhead who thinks carrying a knife makes me safer. It doesn't.
A stout walking stick, which one uses for it’s intended purpose, could be used in self defence if the need arose so long as one did not have the intention of using it for defence.
Indeed and the very appearance of the stick might serve the purpose of a deterrent to errant. My GP would confirm to anybody that I legitimately use one for support.
Further proof that lawyers live in an unreal world, and have never done a manual worker's job, where having all your pointy and cutting tools together is both necessary and convenient, even though the current specific job only needs some of them.
1. If you have an orange in your rucksack with a knife... good reason? 2. You have a kitchen knife (which you have purchased earlier in the day) in your bag and you a still shopping in the evening... justifiable?
I have a fixed blade knife. I use it when I go wild clamping. It's used for cutting cord and other camping stuff. when walking it's in my rucksack side pouch. It's not in easy reach unless I've set up camp. To me this is a reasonable excuse?
I recall, a few years ago (at the height of "road rage" hysteria), it was popular for people to carry a baseball bat in their car on the basis that "it's for playing baseball innit? wink wink!" Always amazed me that people thought they might get away with that, and I recall hearing about a couple of people being prosecuted for it too. Besides, you've already got a perfectly good wheelbrace in your car... for changing a wheel, of course. 😕
Over 20 years ago I bought a 'baseball bat' shaped steering wheel lock for my wife's 1987 car. (It was the only such lock available in the shop at the time). Unfortunately, a later inspection revealed that it clearly would not fit the wheel of this particular vehicle and so was never even removed from the packaging. It never occurred to me that it was a disguised 'in-car' weapon until I recently sold it on eBay where it was soon snapped up by a young man.😇
Even better than a wheel brace the good old Crook-loc. It is nearly twice as long as a wheel brace and as it is intended to secure your vehicle, it can be in the front of the vehicle. If stopped with a wheel brace in the passenger area, tucked under a seat it is almost like a baseball bat. But that's where you keep a Crook-loc.
I have a hand ,which I carry with me for good reason, and I convert it in to a fist . It is now an offencive weapon. I must not carry this fist around unless I have previously passed thru a bad area and forgot to un clinch .
The knife situation happened to me on a bank holiday. It was impossible to find an open police station. I had to keep it in the car boot overnight I finally managed to take it to a local n police station the next day.
What if you’re on your way to go fishing with friends or solo but you need to go to the tackle shop first so you pack your fishing bag grab your rod and grab either Leatherman or another small pocket knife for use by the bank and get stopped or caught with it on the High Street on your way to or from the tackle shop would that be a reason enough for a reasonable excuse and a good reason?
What does the law say about knifes with two blades or knives with both sides sharpened? With knives with two blades, does the 3 inch rule apply to the combined length of the blades or just the longest blade? With blades sharpened on both sides, is the length the combined length of both edges or the length of the blade itself?
Let's say that I've been studying a form of martial arts for the past 20 years. And let's say I'm very, very capable because by this time a 7th Dan in the art. Am I not an offensive weapon?
no. because you have the training required to fulfil the "use of minimum force" in the case of self defence. were you to assault someone it would still just be assault, because people don't need to be skilled to cause great bodily harm, heck the less skilled someone is the more likely for bodily harm to increase.
It used to be that if you got in a fight, etc. You would be in more trouble if you harmed someone badly while defending yourself. Simply because you've had training and should be able to control how much force you use. I have no idea if it's still the same nowadays.
This is getting f**king ridiculous. Most of these silly (open to interpretation) laws should be scrapped and people should use their best judgement. If there is a case to be answered to, then it's the persons own judgement that should be called into question rather than searching ever expanding volumes of rules and regulations to find a reason to prosecute (or acquit).
I am pretty sure that the sensible copper will use their experience and judgement of the individual when deciding whether you are nicked or not. There are of course some jobsworths and piss takers out there but by and large the purpose of the police is to nick criminals not ordinary citizens going about their business. I am fairly confident as a gardener, a camper, sometime historical weapons enthusiasm where the barriers lie as to what I can and cannot practically do. I have taken swords into a public venue (with permission) for the legitimate purpose of exhibition. I have worn the sgian dhu as part of highland costume, I have carried bush clearing tools on public transport without the police being called and so on.
"Intent" is why we need real judges - not just ones familiar with the legal code, then merely apply it. If that is the case, then we no longer need judges and the courts could be totally automated. "Just folllow the screen prompts until you are convicted"
I think from your last video to this video the conversation has changed. The last video you mention lockblades and/or Stanley knife. Today you mention machete, blunt objects and offensive weapons. A person carrying a "tool" for work should never be accused of carrying an offensive weapon It's a tool for work purposes in the role they do. Whether they've forgot they have it on their belt or not. Today you mention a remote could be classed as offensive weapon, in that case can all people who carry a pen be accused?. I find the whole system confusing and broken and the world has lost a massive amount of common sense. Since the early 90s I've noticed a massive change.
The law gets like this because dealing with knife-carrying gang crime is hard and politicians want to be able to say "We're doing something about it" even if what they are doing is ultimately harmful to the public good. And of course it doesn't help that most people are too ignorant and apathetic to care.
Our knife legislation is so poor because it was drafted as a knee jerk reaction to public opinion and the press. The reason why so many martial arts weapons are specifically mentioned dates it back to the Kung Fu 80's, when you had idiots running around thinking they were Ninjas. The later update did exactly the same with "Zombie Knives".
There are two provisions that you are confusing, there is a law against carrying bladed or pointed articles and a law against carrying offensive weapons. Both laws have been in place for many years. You cannot carry any bladed or pointed article in a public place without good reason unless that item has a folding blade (without a lock) less than 3” long. The law relating to weapons of offence is separate. If you were carrying a pen with the intention of using it to injure someone, then it would be an offensive weapon. A dagger a flick knife or a bayonet are designed for the purposes of injuring people, a stick with nails driven into the end has been adapted for the purposes of injuring people… they are all likely to be considered offensive weapons…
@@JBils41 You are forgetting the part "for work" The important part. A tool someone uses for work purposes.. can I ring the police when I see builders in Asda wearing a belt with a hammer and screwdrivers in it and say they are offensive weapons?.
Multi tool in your car tool kit..screwed, Pocket knife in your camping gear...screwed, filleting knife in your fishing bag...screwed. So lets face it you are screwed.
I suppose if you found a bladed item or weapon you could call 101 and tell the Police you had found it were taking it home for safekeeping until they could collect it.
The other day l was walking down a street and saw a chisel lying in the road and put it in my pocket to stop it being a danger. I then waited at the prearranged point for my gf to give me my lift home. I suddenly felt a cold sweat developing on my neck after watching some of BBB’s videos and was torn about throwing the chisel in a bush. Not sure what the correct response would be but surely the law is being ( forgive the pun) oversharpened in relation to normal citizens and sharp implements because of an inability of certain demographics to control their actions.
I've found a hammer in the street. Photographed it in situ and informed the old bill so they could pick it up. It's not difficult. BTW, what do you mean by certain demographics?
@@LG-cz6ls you must have a very amenable police force! I could see taking a picture prior to removing it would support a case of reasonable excuse though.
So in your opinion would having a multitool in a rucksack whilst out hiking (or traveling to/from a hike) be Good Reason? But leaving your rucksack containing the multitool in the car during the week would not be good reason?
i have a knife at my front door as I live in a bad area. I've had my door kicked off by weed robbers. police have told me to take the knife away. do I have to? even though it is in my own home?
I know if a business clears an area or salts, an area its seen as their responsibility if someone falls or slips over. Hence why most small businesses don't clear snow or ice. I assume that still stands to this day.
Surley, a reasonable excuse, can change from person to person. What I think is a reasonable excuse may not be the same as yours... how is that fair? And how is forgetting not an excuse? If we forget, then we forget. Every human forgets, and if a police forgets things, then that is a reasonable excuse for them...
If you were in real fear of your life being taken, you could use it as defence, I guess. But remember, if you stopped them by taking the weapon and then killed them instead of just disabling them (injuring them so they can't continue), you wouldn't have a defence anymore as you went too far.
There are weapons, there are weapons you can carry at all times and there are weapons you can never carry, none of them are offensive unless you intend to use them as such. Anything that can hurt another person is a weapon, and if you deliberately carry something because you mean to use it to hurt another person that would render it an offensive weapon. That could be a shoe a bunch of keys or a bowler hat with a sharpened steel brim. I think that is the gist of what he is saying
@@inregionecaecorum yes I understand that but I'm saying people can get arrested for carrying a knife which I totally agree with. but other household items ie a bunch of keys could do damage. I'm not criticising bbb I think he's good.
For a bladed multiltool ,frankly, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with reasons on the spot unless you are a proper dunce. You could say you use it for opening packages like Blister packs or clamshell packaging. If you are driving you could make up some bullshit about having a mechanical problem with your car (needing to tighten a throttle nut or a nut on your battery cable or use it to open a stuck boot/bonnet). If you bike places you could say it is to repair problems that might arise when you are commuting. I reckon if you come up with one plausible explanation you'd be fine. If you are out at 4am nightclubbing and you get caught with a Bowie knife strapped to your waist, well then you are no doubt a trouble-making scumbag who is probably looking for trouble. In that case, I see no reason for you not to be charged.
@@charlotteharvey836 A member of the armed forces of necessity carries a lethal weapon in the line of duty, so also do the police on special duties. I went to a meeting once, where Peter Hain, at that time Secretary of State for NI was speaking, he informed us that he had his armed protection officers with him, clearly plain clothes officers authorised by law to carry concealed hand guns otherwise prohibited by law.
Question: As a Surveyor I have carried a multi-tool with me in the past, that includes a folding blade that locks out - on the face of it a clear violation of the rules. The multi-tool has a thick material enclosure with a clasp and is normally kept in a work bag containing other equipment. Would this be sufficient to allow the device to be carried, given that it is not immediately useable? Would the enclosure need some form of lock on it, to allow it to be carried around?
The law is stupid ....so, I'm allowed to cut generic vegetables as well as filleting a rather tasty salmon in my kitchen..but I take two steps onto the main street and I'm suddenly a danger .....that's the problem with the law ...you ( the public ) are judged on other people's idiot moves
@@charlotteharvey836 Fair play to you. Sorry for misunderstanding. I (wrongly) assumed you were something you are not; one of those "free man" wazzocks. My bad.
@@LG-cz6ls Cheers blue..I only asked about lawful authority as it was mentioned in the video and I really don't know anything about it..Thanks for replying and on a side note freemen are just mis informed idiots
Carrying an offensive weapon is illegal in the UK is illegal..so I ask you once more..who gives authority for someone to carry an offensive weapon in the UK
We must be the only country in the world that doesn't allow you to carry something for your personal protection
I came home on leave once and went on holiday two days later, having packed and instinctively put into my jacket pockets, compass, notebook, bloody great lock knife, field dressing and a ball of paracord. Still oblivious to my error, I emptied my pockets to go through airport security as one does. Once the alarms had stopped (and the angry glare from amongst others, my wife), the police and security listened to my reason for having the knife in my possession. They were very good about it and after a laugh (and a warning) they let me send my knife to my home address by post in a giffy bag. I've never been so embarrassed, a complete mind fart. After my holiday, i found that my knife was there at home waiting for me. A week later, I was on my way back to work, knife and all. So I can understand how one can simply forget the context.
Excuse - is made to avoid responsibility
Reason - an acceptance of responsibility
Ooh good explanation!! 👍🏻 I think I might have to dishonesty appropriate that for future use 😊👍🏻
Someone made allegations against me and the police arrived at my house and arrested me, When I gat to the station I had a Opinel knife in my pocket and when I was released I got it back.
When they asked me to empty my pockets I explained each item for the log and when I put my left pocket contents on the desk I said," Well used hankerchief, lip balm and garden knife" and no-one batted an eyelid.
On being released I even got brought home and the person who accused me was dimissed from their job.
Going on a picnic with a purposely constructed picnic hamper furnished with plates, cups (maybe saucers) and steel cutlery, including table knives in the boot, would, one hopes, constitute a good reason to have these in one’s car en route to a popular picnic site with the family or friends……?
The background context is always key, your example would be safe providing your background or the nature of the picnic is genuine.
A likely story.
I suppose that samurai sword you have is for buttering your scones?😁
Just watch the video he explains everything
Of course, but not the sawn off shot gun under the chicken wrapped in foil.
Typical affluent middle class justification.
The fact is picnics are not the exclusive reserve of snobs who take a harrods hamper with them. Ordinary people take rather naff food on picnic or don't take any food, they plan to buy food near to where they'll picnic and have a knife for things like cutting cake slices after they've bought it.
Why must people justify themselves to the police that they don't want to eat a cake like a wild animal, are they supposed to gouge chunks out of the cake with thier hand?
Is having a `survival' tool on you good reason? By its very nature you never know when your going to need it, and as the saying goes `better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it'. I'm sure a good barrister could make a good case for it ;)
This has to be one of the best half dozen channels on TH-cam.
Just as a genuine question Ive known Chefs (and been one myself) carrying ones own personal kitchen knife in a special canvas roll in a bag or something to be used in a place of work, surely this would come under "Good reason" for carrying such an article. Many thanks!
you are fine so long as it is just you going between work and home I believe. if you stop off somewhere else along the way with it in your possession then it may not be.
How about an Olympic javelin thrower, ok to have one strapped to your roof when going to a contest(presumably) but what if you go to a supermarket off your route home to buy your dinner ingredients?
I really really like the rule about intention of causing harm to others. If I was carrying a machine gun for self defence it's obvious that I if was attacked and I see them coming I would cause harm to others. But I am carrying it to prevent harm to me, I am not intending to hurt anyone, or even have to fire the weapon. I not intending to cause harm. How can the police or military carry weapons? They aren't carrying them for self defence but to actually be able to go to a place and kill someone.
Should anyone be wondering about me carrying a machine gun, I would much prefer to carry a small revolver as they can be carried without the same concerns over springs and maintenance
In my opinion you can stop at the pub on the way home, it's tied up and in a bag. But I would suggest being in good behaviour. Don't give them an excuse to search you
@@JimboXX78 Deterrent is not a defence; to defend yourself you necessarily have to intend to use it if provoked. It is why so much attention is paid to nuclear weapons, and the willingness to use them; unless they would actually be used, they are paperweights.
And yes, armed police and military are prepared to fire their weapons. There is a phrase "don't point a gun at someone unless you are prepared to [and I would suggest justified] kill them". They do not carry them for "deterrent" value.
Having a black belt you might appreciate this. In my high school class was a Vietnamese boy who was a master of martial arts. He gave a demo to the class where he took a folded piece of paper (ordinary 20 lb. copy paper), folded it in half and proceeded to cut through a 1/4 inch thick fat pencil. In the armed forces we were taught that "anything" in the right (or wrong!) hands can be a weapon if you know how to use it as such. On an airplane, in first class, a ceramic cup of plate could be deadly! Simply break it and you have a very sharp edge! Maybe the law might consider intent an important defense in this case. "I intended to use the cup to drink my tea, not murder my seat mate". "I intended to use the box knife at work, not murder my seat mate as I traveled home on the bus." Nor did I intend to murder the clerk in the coffee shop next to my place of employment.
The law already does include intent as a defense, hence the crime of manslaughter
So the moral here is ; if you find a machete (or firearm etc) in the street, get your arse out of there quick smart unless you want a courtcase & likely imprisonment.
My concern, is the steady and consistent drive to disarm the population. Who will be left to defend our personal security and businesses in a climate of social disorder and chaos.
In California they have downgraded thefts of less than a $1000 as a misdemeanor.
In the UK any criminal damage that involves the victim likely to be insured, gets treated with a belated visit by a forensic evidence gathering officer.
In the Devon and Cornwall region respected country folk who have good reason to possess firearms are having their licences revoked, because the police slipped up on returning firearms to an individual who was later deemed to be unstable.
Centuries ago, the population HAD to practise archery, this had nothing to do with hunting, sport or self defence.
Now we have a population where some might be able to pot a rabbit with a boy's toy air rifle if they get hungry enough.
In a chaotic social disorder, does anyone really believe the police will turn up to protect them?
Part of the issue is that the cultural artefacts (in the Lev Vygotsky sense) AKA Semiotic myths (In the Roland Barthes sense) change over time which in turn changes the semantic range and therefore meaning in a specific context. So what is written in the 1950's and received from that writing may be different to even the 1980's. In fact the meaning of the word "gay" has had 4 meanings in my lifetime and originally meant "promiscuous woman" in the 17th century. I would recommend that anyone reading law gets to grips with the "Historical Critical" method as sometimes even moving 50 miles down the road changes the meaning of a word. EG "I will borrow it to you" instead of "I will lend it to you" near where I live. There is also the fact that words that are subjective in common usage are sometimes explicitly defined in law. EG SI 2013-377 section 1.4 explicitly states that "reasonable time period" is no more than twice what an able bodied person would take to do a task. I have relied on my abilities with this so many times to get judgements set aside it's nuts.
The law as semiotic myth. I like it. The essential myth of the law is that it is determinate rather than random in it's execution. Statistical probability of being found guilty of having a machete in the boot of your car whilst you are in the pub is dependent upon a lot of things, having technically broken a law is the least of these. You would either have to be acting in a suspicious manner such as to bring yourself to the attention of the law or simply be unfortunate enough to subject to a random police search during a relatively rare crackdown on weapons. Context is a lot more determinate than the law so far as consequence goes. I keep a folding shovel in the back of my car, it is there for a reason, to dig myself out of an awkward situation if need be, furthermore it resides there permanently with other artifacts including a blanket, a spare can of petrol, a hi viz jacket, warning triangle, battery lantern and a camping stove complete with MREs etc. It would have to be a very vindictive or stupid copper who wanted to take issue with it. Oh but it is a locking folding shovel and therefore prohibited by statute !!
About 2 years ago, a police officer pulled up close to my house. I was using a camping knife to help pull weeds out of my front garden. I asked her a few questions about the knife, as I also took out away from home when I was camping. To be fair she said I had a reasonable cause to use it to lever out weeds, and if I was going camping (with camping kit in tow!) that would also be ok, but if was just carrying it around on me on a day to day basis then that would be illegal as I had no reasonable cause to carry it.
I cant argue with this, I cant think of any other reason I would carry it (in my circumstances) - I think the law is fair!
@Golden Ben Sorry I don't think at any point I suggested "letting someone turn me into a cabbage", can you clarify?
A handbag can be used as a weapon. So can 6' heels or a hairbrush, or even a belt buckle.
When will these be made illegal?
I've seen a skinny kid swing a padlock on the end of a length of string, that he could do more damage with than a lock knife.
Shhhhh! Strings and dead weights will be added to this section!
These things are deliberately left vague so they can always find a way to fuck you over if they want to.
Very interesting video mr BB!
As a tree worker, I carry axes,machetes,big knives, bill hooks and all manner of chainsaws.
My truck is always awash with bladed articles.
Every time some **** attacks someone with a blade/axe/etc it makes my job more difficult.
Same here.
Some of my work means that I'm issued with a card giving me lawful authority to carry these things, but that same work takes me to places where I get searched and questioned regularly, hence justifying the card.
Quite recently a security guard ignored the axes and chainsaws in the truck, but took exception to the little Opinel pen knife in my pocket! I'm quite sure that, as the old phrase goes, a little bit of knowledge (his belief that 'lock-knives' are banned outright) is a dangerous thing . . . more dangerous than the penknife!!
@@Jim-Scott 🤣👍👍👍👍
Unfortunately the CPS will proceed with any case if they think they MAY get a result. Common sense very rarely enters the equation. That is what a jury and defence barrister is for.
And fortunately for British justice and long live trial by jury, a jury can bring in a verdict that contradicts the directions of the judge if they feel that is justified, there is a recent case in point.
Sadly, the police never use discretion these days. They always try to ruin lives with prosecutions.. the amount of money spent for dragging people through courts for minor things is a joke!
I once went to court for a minor driving offence (police love to prosecute rather than use discretion) I work in construction and when I emptied my work pants into the tub for the xray I have 2 knives. The security guard saw them and covered them with paper and removed them, he looked at me and said "the paper work is a nightmare if I acknowledge them"
The example I use to explain this is a chef carrying chef knives on his way to or from an arranged work shift as opposed to carrying the same knives on a weekend when he/she was off duty and not back in work until Monday.
I got stopped by the police with a large military style knife. I also had a rucksack, tent and a rail ticket to the Peak District. Therefore I had no problems from the cops.
(The knife was in my bag).
Honestly I think the best thing to do if finding some kind of weapon like that would be to remain in the area and call the police to come and collect it. This both for the purpose of protecting yourself from accusations and to avoid contaminating any evidence that may be present thereon said weapon. After all you have no way of knowing what other offences the weapon may or may not be linked to. Thus by interfering with you could risk even worse consequences than just the accusation of possession eg tampering with evidence or even being accused of having some involvement in any other offences involving said weapon.
Would the court make a distinction between having forgotten the knife and having it knowingky? For example, would the court give a lighter sentence for forgetting?
"I once saw him detain three men in a bar, with a remote control..."
If you found a knife/machete on the road, and thought "I'd better take that to a police station.", it might be prudent to phone 101, and tell them that that's what you intend to do.
But a knife isn't made to cause injury, it's made to cut things like wood, insulation, knotted shoelaces, loads of things really. I used to carry a gardeners knife and one cat was very lucky I did as it had got it's leather collar caught on some wire and was close to dying though throttling. I did not carry it to necessarily free choking cats but just in case I needed it...and that did not include attacking some random person. All of our laws are aimed at the law-abiding as they are the only ones that will take any notice of them; a true criminal couldn't give a toss.
As a former Venture Scout, I carry a UK legal SAK. Not as a weapon, but as a tool with many applications.
The scissors, bottle opener (of course) and tweezers are often useful. And the mini screwdriver in the corkscrew is a friend of anyone who wears specs!
Your gardeners knife (?) can't do what my SAK does, but my SAK can do what your knife did.
Put simply...just use your noggin. Why risk falling foul of the law?
Here again. I believe a good judge should considere "intent".
@@garryej True. But judges can be funny buggers. Why leave it to chance?
Here in the uk, discretion does not exist with police. And many judges don't live in the real world.. they prosecute people and ruin peoples lives... rather than educating and giving a warning, they prosecute, trap you, and go for a conviction.
The moral here is that if you find a lethal weapon in the street then leave it alone for the person who wants it for nefarious reasons. Is it any wonder that law abiding citizens who try to do the right thing and then become the accused for doing so turn against the police and legal system?
I seem to recall a case, a few years ago, where a cop found a sawn-off shotgun in his back garden one morning, picked it up and took it to his station... whereupon HE was charged with possession of an illegal firearm.
Forget the details but I recall he WAS convicted over it, despite being a cop, (presumably) handling the firearm in a responsible manner and having what should be a reasonable excuse for possessing it.
I don't think he was a policeman but _did_ have issues with his local constabulary as they were doing in his opinion too little about violent gang activity in his area.
He was arrested, charged and prosecuted (5 year minimum term) because unlicenced _possession_ of a firearm is a strict liability offence, i.e. courts are barred from allowing all but the most extreme of defenses. Yes it's wrong but sadly most people don't care until it happens to them.
And on a side note the police decided against charging either the parents or the amateur manufacturer of a licence-requiring airgun after it was accidentally discharged, killing a young teenager. As far as I'm aware no explanation as to why has ever been given.
I remember this case.
So it would seem the only safe thing to do if you find a firearm is to call the police and stay with it (but not pick it up or otherwise take it into your possession) until they come pick it up?
@@tlangdon12 Yes. And to be honest it could quite possibly be a 'dirty' gun, i.e. it's been used to shoot someone and dumped in an attempt to dispose of the evidence, so I'd want to avoid putting my prints on it.
This is why we are fucked as a race, surely the burden of proof should be on the police to assitain the person finding the firearm was going to use it maliciously.
I got a guilty plea set aside, on a knuckle duster from after my home was attacked in 2019 and Judge Walsh at Bolton Crown said i had better have a better excuse when i come back ,than a gang on the corner baying for my blood. I did ,a letter from cps saying Police had ordered me out of my home to be arrested and it was in my back pocket at the time, So i was just following orders and they had to drop it
I have been thinking if bio weapon development is permitted if you do it for defensive purposes
Could you argue you are wearing a knuckle duster not to hurt or damage the other person but to prevent harm to your bones in your hand 😃
If you knocked someone out with a remote control would it be attempted fast forwarding instead of trying to Stop someone ?
The law forgets what it said earlier and mangles the language in the process. How many laws are there on the statute books that are actually mutually contradictory because of poor drafting or failure to properly repeal and supercede it with a later act of Parliament? More than a few I will guess. You may well argue that is what Judges are for, but then everybody is entitled to their opinion and mine is that the law can sometimes be an ass if it fails to tie up it's loose ends.
What happens if you buy kitchen knives from tesco or any other shop? I don't understand how we could legally take them home.
That would be classed as a good reason I would think, especially as it would be in its original packaging and you had the receipt for it.
My worry is a knife for Bushcraft. I do a lot of Bushcraft and need to travel for short periods threw public with my pack. It contains an axe a bucksaw and a 5 inch Bushcraft knife. They are wood working tools.
In a previous video, I think BB stated that if you were clearly going to/from somewhere for the purpose of bushcraft, you are OK.
Might be worth you looking at his other vids?
@@LG-cz6ls thanks. I’ll check them out
Regardless of the law, do you think we should be able to carry objects on our person for self defense?
No.
Carry something as a potential weapon and you might find it taken and used against you when you start waving it around like a Rambo wannabe.
And I say this as a 5ft4 woman.
@@LG-cz6ls You do know that real criminals don't abide by any law period so why wouldn't you want to at least have the option of carrying something to try and defend yourself? Sorry but I don't get your train of thought at all, it is a sad fact that there are dangerous people out there who are looking for weak victims.
@@steveclark.. "You do know that real criminals don't abide by any law period"
Oh, dear. I do know "real criminals", or as reasonable people would put it, people convicted of crimes.
In the real world, people have their own (different) standards. Just as politicians (who never indulge in criminal activity...) do.
But, on a practical, self defence note; If you don't know how to use a knife, don't carry one. Unless you want to see the handle sticking out of your ribs. Which is not to be recommended.
@@LG-cz6ls I agree but you don't have to carry a knife, there are plenty of other items that you can use to defend yourself. Choose what you want and train with it, being prepared to defend yourself shouldn't be illegal, that's the crazy part to me.
I have had a man try to rape me, thank you very much. It's a sadly common experience.
And I defended myself without a weapon. Luckily enough, training and fight kicked in, no doubt growing up in a violent household with three brothers helped. Flight would also have worked, but people also freeze.
Having a weapon does not mean you can or would use it effectively, it just adds another element to the problem.
I'm not taking lessons from some dickhead who thinks carrying a knife makes me safer. It doesn't.
A stout walking stick, which one uses for it’s intended purpose, could be used in self defence if the need arose so long as one did not have the intention of using it for defence.
Indeed and the very appearance of the stick might serve the purpose of a deterrent to errant. My GP would confirm to anybody that I legitimately use one for support.
Further proof that lawyers live in an unreal world, and have never done a manual worker's job, where having all your pointy and cutting tools together is both necessary and convenient, even though the current specific job only needs some of them.
1. If you have an orange in your rucksack with a knife... good reason?
2. You have a kitchen knife (which you have purchased earlier in the day) in your bag and you a still shopping in the evening... justifiable?
I have a fixed blade knife. I use it when I go wild clamping. It's used for cutting cord and other camping stuff. when walking it's in my rucksack side pouch. It's not in easy reach unless I've set up camp. To me this is a reasonable excuse?
what does the law say about fixed blade knifes, before any mention of excuse. that will be your answer.
It is a good reason, same as when I carry a machete or bill hook to go to my allotment, they are tools I both use and need for specific tasks.
Different part of law, but could you explain why electric bikes can be used on the road, but electric scooters cant? 🤔🤔
I recall, a few years ago (at the height of "road rage" hysteria), it was popular for people to carry a baseball bat in their car on the basis that "it's for playing baseball innit? wink wink!"
Always amazed me that people thought they might get away with that, and I recall hearing about a couple of people being prosecuted for it too.
Besides, you've already got a perfectly good wheelbrace in your car... for changing a wheel, of course. 😕
I was stopped for having a baseball bat in my car but they couldn’t do anything because I had the ball and glove in there too. Wink wink.
Over 20 years ago I bought a 'baseball bat' shaped steering wheel lock for my wife's 1987 car. (It was the only such lock available in the shop at the time). Unfortunately, a later inspection revealed that it clearly would not fit the wheel of this particular vehicle and so was never even removed from the packaging. It never occurred to me that it was a disguised 'in-car' weapon until I recently sold it on eBay where it was soon snapped up by a young man.😇
@@snowwhitehair485 They can sure make some large strong umbrellas too.
Even better than a wheel brace the good old Crook-loc. It is nearly twice as long as a wheel brace and as it is intended to secure your vehicle, it can be in the front of the vehicle. If stopped with a wheel brace in the passenger area, tucked under a seat it is almost like a baseball bat. But that's where you keep a Crook-loc.
I have a hand ,which I carry with me for good reason, and I convert it in to a fist . It is now an offencive weapon. I must not carry this fist around unless I have previously passed thru a bad area and forgot to un clinch .
The knife situation happened to me on a bank holiday. It was impossible to find an open police station. I had to keep it in the car boot overnight I finally managed to take it to a local n police station the next day.
Again..I ask you..who gives lawful authority to carry concealed weapons in the UK
No one will admit to lawful authority
What if you’re on your way to go fishing with friends or solo but you need to go to the tackle shop first so you pack your fishing bag grab your rod and grab either Leatherman or another small pocket knife for use by the bank and get stopped or caught with it on the High Street on your way to or from the tackle shop would that be a reason enough for a reasonable excuse and a good reason?
I'm still confused, does the first one generically apply to weapons and the second one specifically to knives?
I don't know if I've missed this in a previous video, but is your own private vehicle really seen as a "public place"?
Your own private vehicle could also be a weapon. In fact, it has (well, rented ones usually).
What does the law say about knifes with two blades or knives with both sides sharpened?
With knives with two blades, does the 3 inch rule apply to the combined length of the blades or just the longest blade?
With blades sharpened on both sides, is the length the combined length of both edges or the length of the blade itself?
about a good reason for self-defence
Let's say that I've been studying a form of martial arts for the past 20 years. And let's say I'm very, very capable because by this time a 7th Dan in the art. Am I not an offensive weapon?
no. because you have the training required to fulfil the "use of minimum force" in the case of self defence. were you to assault someone it would still just be assault, because people don't need to be skilled to cause great bodily harm, heck the less skilled someone is the more likely for bodily harm to increase.
It used to be that if you got in a fight, etc. You would be in more trouble if you harmed someone badly while defending yourself. Simply because you've had training and should be able to control how much force you use. I have no idea if it's still the same nowadays.
Yes you are.
Only in Japan, I think.
Although making 7th Dan in only 20 years does not provide confidence in the grading system...
No. Your are just a weapon.
Kerambit blades are an excellent example, small but only used to cause harm
This is getting f**king ridiculous. Most of these silly (open to interpretation) laws should be scrapped and people should use their best judgement. If there is a case to be answered to, then it's the persons own judgement that should be called into question rather than searching ever expanding volumes of rules and regulations to find a reason to prosecute (or acquit).
I am pretty sure that the sensible copper will use their experience and judgement of the individual when deciding whether you are nicked or not. There are of course some jobsworths and piss takers out there but by and large the purpose of the police is to nick criminals not ordinary citizens going about their business. I am fairly confident as a gardener, a camper, sometime historical weapons enthusiasm where the barriers lie as to what I can and cannot practically do. I have taken swords into a public venue (with permission) for the legitimate purpose of exhibition. I have worn the sgian dhu as part of highland costume, I have carried bush clearing tools on public transport without the police being called and so on.
"Intent" is why we need real judges - not just ones familiar with the legal code, then merely apply it. If that is the case, then we no longer need judges and the courts could be totally automated. "Just folllow the screen prompts until you are convicted"
I think from your last video to this video the conversation has changed. The last video you mention lockblades and/or Stanley knife. Today you mention machete, blunt objects and offensive weapons. A person carrying a "tool" for work should never be accused of carrying an offensive weapon It's a tool for work purposes in the role they do. Whether they've forgot they have it on their belt or not. Today you mention a remote could be classed as offensive weapon, in that case can all people who carry a pen be accused?. I find the whole system confusing and broken and the world has lost a massive amount of common sense. Since the early 90s I've noticed a massive change.
The law gets like this because dealing with knife-carrying gang crime is hard and politicians want to be able to say "We're doing something about it" even if what they are doing is ultimately harmful to the public good.
And of course it doesn't help that most people are too ignorant and apathetic to care.
Our knife legislation is so poor because it was drafted as a knee jerk reaction to public opinion and the press. The reason why so many martial arts weapons are specifically mentioned dates it back to the Kung Fu 80's, when you had idiots running around thinking they were Ninjas. The later update did exactly the same with "Zombie Knives".
There are two provisions that you are confusing, there is a law against carrying bladed or pointed articles and a law against carrying offensive weapons. Both laws have been in place for many years. You cannot carry any bladed or pointed article in a public place without good reason unless that item has a folding blade (without a lock) less than 3” long.
The law relating to weapons of offence is separate. If you were carrying a pen with the intention of using it to injure someone, then it would be an offensive weapon. A dagger a flick knife or a bayonet are designed for the purposes of injuring people, a stick with nails driven into the end has been adapted for the purposes of injuring people… they are all likely to be considered offensive weapons…
@@JBils41 You are forgetting the part "for work" The important part. A tool someone uses for work purposes.. can I ring the police when I see builders in Asda wearing a belt with a hammer and screwdrivers in it and say they are offensive weapons?.
@@RoperGaming I’m forgetting nothing… unless a builder is carrying a hammer with the intention of injuring someone it isn’t an offensive weapon.
Multi tool in your car tool kit..screwed, Pocket knife in your camping gear...screwed, filleting knife in your fishing bag...screwed. So lets face it you are screwed.
I suppose if you found a bladed item or weapon you could call 101 and tell the Police you had found it were taking it home for safekeeping until they could collect it.
The other day l was walking down a street and saw a chisel lying in the road and put it in my pocket to stop it being a danger. I then waited at the prearranged point for my gf to give me my lift home. I suddenly felt a cold sweat developing on my neck after watching some of BBB’s videos and was torn about throwing the chisel in a bush. Not sure what the correct response would be but surely the law is being ( forgive the pun) oversharpened in relation to normal citizens and sharp implements because of an inability of certain demographics to control their actions.
I've found a hammer in the street. Photographed it in situ and informed the old bill so they could pick it up.
It's not difficult.
BTW, what do you mean by certain demographics?
@@LG-cz6ls you must have a very amenable police force! I could see taking a picture prior to removing it would support a case of reasonable excuse though.
@@goldilocks913 The local plod know I am a law abiding kind of lass.
I gave them my address, and have had prior contact over other matters.
@@LG-cz6ls I’m glad there’s good people in your local community looking out, it’s the only way forward. Nice one 👍
@@goldilocks913 You dodged the question the first time, so I'll be the one to ask it again: what do you mean by certain demographics?
So in your opinion would having a multitool in a rucksack whilst out hiking (or traveling to/from a hike) be Good Reason? But leaving your rucksack containing the multitool in the car during the week would not be good reason?
Is the reamer punch from a legal Swiss Army knife allowed
It's the little hook you really have to look out for!
Can I keep an air rifle at home, in the UK. Not carrying it around obviously ..
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It doesn't seem to stop knife crime though. Sounds like its going up.
I give myself lawful authority over a police constable at the time..I am now legal?
i have a knife at my front door as I live in a bad area. I've had my door kicked off by weed robbers. police have told me to take the knife away. do I have to? even though it is in my own home?
A video about the legalities of clearing snow/gritting public footpaths roads and private property and businesses may be helpful.
I know if a business clears an area or salts, an area its seen as their responsibility if someone falls or slips over. Hence why most small businesses don't clear snow or ice. I assume that still stands to this day.
Surley, a reasonable excuse, can change from person to person. What I think is a reasonable excuse may not be the same as yours... how is that fair? And how is forgetting not an excuse? If we forget, then we forget. Every human forgets, and if a police forgets things, then that is a reasonable excuse for them...
Not only actus rea, but mens rae.
how about carrying a knife for the purpose of self defense against what is believed to be equal force of a dangerous dog?
Can killing somebody in self defence ever be used as a legal argument? Even if it’s with an offensive weapon that the attacker brought.
If you were in real fear of your life being taken, you could use it as defence, I guess. But remember, if you stopped them by taking the weapon and then killed them instead of just disabling them (injuring them so they can't continue), you wouldn't have a defence anymore as you went too far.
so it's all about intention.
There are weapons, there are weapons you can carry at all times and there are weapons you can never carry, none of them are offensive unless you intend to use them as such. Anything that can hurt another person is a weapon, and if you deliberately carry something because you mean to use it to hurt another person that would render it an offensive weapon. That could be a shoe a bunch of keys or a bowler hat with a sharpened steel brim. I think that is the gist of what he is saying
@@inregionecaecorum yes I understand that but I'm saying people can get arrested for carrying a knife which I totally agree with. but other household items ie a bunch of keys could do damage. I'm not criticising bbb I think he's good.
who gives the lawful authority
For a bladed multiltool ,frankly, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with reasons on the spot unless you are a proper dunce. You could say you use it for opening packages like Blister packs or clamshell packaging. If you are driving you could make up some bullshit about having a mechanical problem with your car (needing to tighten a throttle nut or a nut on your battery cable or use it to open a stuck boot/bonnet). If you bike places you could say it is to repair problems that might arise when you are commuting. I reckon if you come up with one plausible explanation you'd be fine.
If you are out at 4am nightclubbing and you get caught with a Bowie knife strapped to your waist, well then you are no doubt a trouble-making scumbag who is probably looking for trouble. In that case, I see no reason for you not to be charged.
I didnt understand a word of that.
Don't take that remote out with you your not turning me on sugar . I don't want to pull out my lethal weapon
I ask again..what is lawful authority and who gives this?? If you do not know then kindly state that
The Police, the Army or a Judge I presume.
@@inregionecaecorum Neither have authority...I ask a barrister to clarify x
All i ask is who gives lawful authority..surely an easy answer
There is a question that won't be answered
@@charlotteharvey836 A member of the armed forces of necessity carries a lethal weapon in the line of duty, so also do the police on special duties. I went to a meeting once, where Peter Hain, at that time Secretary of State for NI was speaking, he informed us that he had his armed protection officers with him, clearly plain clothes officers authorised by law to carry concealed hand guns otherwise prohibited by law.
I think that NO ONE can circumvent the LAW..so once again I ask you..who is lawful authority
Question: As a Surveyor I have carried a multi-tool with me in the past, that includes a folding blade that locks out - on the face of it a clear violation of the rules. The multi-tool has a thick material enclosure with a clasp and is normally kept in a work bag containing other equipment. Would this be sufficient to allow the device to be carried, given that it is not immediately useable? Would the enclosure need some form of lock on it, to allow it to be carried around?
Could you kindly advise on the legal points on the oppression on muslim women in France please?
Semantics on steroids.
The law is stupid ....so, I'm allowed to cut generic vegetables as well as filleting a rather tasty salmon in my kitchen..but I take two steps onto the main street and I'm suddenly a danger .....that's the problem with the law ...you ( the public ) are judged on other people's idiot moves
or are the police exempt from statuary law.
Is this a Magna Carta thing?
Are you a Baron?
@@LG-cz6ls Good god no..I am just curious
@@charlotteharvey836 Fair play to you. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I (wrongly) assumed you were something you are not; one of those "free man" wazzocks.
My bad.
@@LG-cz6ls Cheers blue..I only asked about lawful authority as it was mentioned in the video and I really don't know anything about it..Thanks for replying and on a side note freemen are just mis informed idiots
Aye. Sadly one of my brothers is one.
Love him to bits, though!
Take it easy
LG
You all been nuts since 1953?
Carrying an offensive weapon is illegal in the UK is illegal..so I ask you once more..who gives authority for someone to carry an offensive weapon in the UK
Cats