I'd say grandad is entirely plausible. In that case his dad and grandad had kids around the age of 40. I mean, that happens. Their wives could be alot younger.
Their wives wouldn't even have to be a lot younger necessarily. It's entirely possible for women in their early 40s to give birth. My own grandmother was around 90 when I was 10, so having a granddad that's 100 at 18 isn't impossible.
If he was born whilst his mum was 35 and his dad was 41. And the granddad was on his dads side, and his dad was born whilst his grandmother was 35 and granddad 41. That would be fairly reasonable whilst being enough to create the 82 year age gap necessary for him to be 18 whilst his granddad was 100.
Charles Dance was 66 when his youngest daughter was born, and his father was 73 when he was born. Ergo her grandad (if he was still alive) would be 154 on her 18th birthday. Being an 18 year old with a centenarian grandfather is perfectly plausible.
I have just one question. Why didn't David Mitchell become a lawyer? Can you imagine any criminal getting away with it with David as the Chief Crown Prosecutor?
I get this a whole lot too, and I very much doubt somebody with those traits, talents, or tendencies towards a certain sort of nervousness would want to cross-examine anybody... Geez
+Faith If you ask me, that's when we got the proof that Voldemort is still alive and sometimes takes possession of Lee's mind. Or Nagini..or..whatever. British. Harry Potter. Jokes. I'm no good at this.
My grandfather was 100 years old when i turned 16 in 2011 (he was 47 when my dad was born), so i would say that Lee Mack's grandad being 100 when he was 18 is totally plausible.
+ycafe123 If I look in my family tree and others I've seen they're quite common and unremarkable when you have large family sizes and some men ten years older than their wives.... But I guess the idea was to test him and see if he buckles under pressure - which he totally did.
junbh2 That might be true for large families. However, based on info from other episodes, its suggested that Lee is either a single child or perhaps have at most 1 sibling.
+Chris R. Sandberg absolutely, my grandfather died at age 97 when I was 11 and my mum had me at a normal age (32). But it sounds very unlikely on paper but when you do the maths it can happen more than people think. In today's culture there are grandparents in their 40's and sometimes even 30's.
Normally, yes I'd agree that with that but honestly, I don't think this story would be that hard to lie about.. I mean, my pop did the same thing when he was roughly twenty five so it's not like it doesn't happen.
+ManSeaweed I thought that was extremely smart to come up with that on the spot haha but he could have just said his dad was a lot older than his mother when they married his dad would have to be like 25 years older than his mum lool
Pierzing.glint1sh7 You do understand that someone's step-something is a family member that is unrelated to them by blood, right? Why would he ever make that bet if it was his STEP grandfather? Then he wouldn't even have the genes of longevity!
yep lee panicked too much, the math was fine. 40+ isn't old to have a kid. My mother was married to someone 20+ years older than her, and men tend to marry women younger than them. If they were talking about his Mother it might be different, but as long as men aren't sterile, they can have kids easily when they are 40+. I know guys my age who have kids at 50.
My grandfather was born in 1913, and was 39 when my mother was born. I was born when she was 38. If he had lived, he would have been 100 the same year I turned 23, only 5 years off Lee's lie. It's an unlikely scenario but not impossible.
Lee could have pulled that story off if he were better at maths. If Lee's grandfather were say 48 when he had his father and his father was 34 when he had Lee then his grandfather would have been 100 when he was 18. David Mitchell is great at this game.
It's interesting to see how much the dynamic between Lee and David has grown and changed over the years. You can tell they're close friends now as to compared to the earlier seasons.
It's not a problem. It's implausible or unlikely enough, given the usual ages one might have a child, that you would you would ask the question when trying to determine if someone is telling the truth, and it made him crack. If he could have quickly said, my grandad had my dad 47, and my dad had me at 35, so when I was 18 he was 100, it would have been and gone. But it made Lee crack, which is the point of cross examination.
Many pay out if you live long enough, for example after 10 or 20 years. Anyway it is a bet on someones life span. So the concept is not at all weird or uncommon.
Betting on longevity is something all bookmakers will take small bets on. Lets say they have to pay out £500,000 on someone living to 100 - they will make around £1,000,000 in free advertising in news/radio reports of the bet when they pay out. Very clever marketing. Calvinosaur is right about the difference, because life insurance policies only pay out upon death, and bets like this (had it been true) only pay out when you are alive. The similarity is that both involve actuarial work to different degrees.
It's possible his Grandad was 100 when he was 18, if his Grandad had Dad at 42 and Dad had Lee at 40. My Dad was 45 when I was born so it's perfectly possible.
my grandmother turned 100 when i was 11 because she was 36 when she had my dad and my dad was 53 when i was born. really out of the ordinary, but Lee's story could have worked
The ages do make sense. If his Granddad was about 40 when Lee’s Dad was born and Lee’s Dad was about 40 when Lee was born then that works out and isn’t completely unreasonable
The grandfather being 100 around the time that Lee turned 18 could've worked if both the grandfather and the subsequent generation both had kids in their early 40s, which is not too uncommon.
What would have made me say lie was the odds of 1000/1 no way a bookmaker would give you odds that high because in a group of 1000 people I'd be confident at least 10 would live to 100 years old so you would probably get odds of around 90/1 if such a bet existed
Do you really think so many people live to a hundred? Imagine how many people you've seen/known/heard of in your life, and now try to think about how many of them were actually 100yo or older? There's 140mln people in Russia, and only 8200 are 100 or older. Sweden with their perfect living conditions, 10mln people and only 1600 people who are a hundred or older. That would make it 1 person out of 6250 people. Also you gotta take into account that not 100% of the people who lived long enough are going to get to the bookies. There are chances of them simply forgeting it, losing the ticket, or the bookie going bankrupt. All being said, I'd say the odds are quite fair.
When I was 18, I had a grandmother that was 98, so it's very possible. Grandma had my dad when she was 38 (just post WWII), and my dad had me when he was 42.
It's bad but there are even worse ones - off the top of my head the BERMUDA one, the left- and right-handed one, and the worst of all, the phonetic alphabet one
Lee came up with quite a good story, perhaps if he'd said great granddad they'd have believed him, one slip up cos him in an otherwise incredible on the spot reason
When David said that lee's grandmother was 71 when she had his dad, shows how bad David's mental maths must be as that would make Lee's dad 11, when he had Lee. All they'd have too be is 41 when they had children and it would work out at 100, it's not even hard for that too occur.
it's not that far fetched - its just's 40 years between father and son for 2 generations. Both my Granddad's were over 80 when I was born and now both my parents are over 80 when my child was born
@wyterabitt Ha! Very good. I thought he didn't stand up to the questioning very well. His body language did him in. If he was half as tense telling the truth, he wouldn't be a very good witness on your behalf.
It's not particularly unrealistic (or even that uncommon) for a man to have a child in his early forties. If his son also had a child in his early forties, the grandfather could be in his eighties when the grandchild was born. Perfectly reasonable.
Doesn't really need saying but David is very bright, the idea of his grandad being so old completely passed me by. Lee's look when it's asked looks like he's found a glitch in the matrix
My niece and her grandfather my brother in law's dad had 87 years in different, so it is very plausible. And now my youngest niece has 80 years different between her and her grandmother.
My grandfather would have been 90 years old when I was born. He had my father when he was 48 and my father had me when he was a few weeks shy of 42. So, what's your problem, David?!
my grandfather would be about 113 if he were alive today; he served in the first world war and died the year before i was born (i'm 21). so, not that weird
@deletedtarget Neither. They said that their granddad was 102 when they was 18, they didn't say he was 102 NOW. Obviously I couldn't guess when they were 18 to figure out when their granddad was born... read the whole conversation before you make assumptions.
I'm 21. My great grandfather, if he were still alive, would be 104. He was more of a grandfather to me than my actual grandfather. My other great grandfathers were much older. My older half brother, who's 35, met one of the ones we share, but that was long before my time. In my family, you either live a long time or die young.
To be honest I don't know what's so surprising about having a grandfather who was 100 at the age of 18. I'm currently 16 and have a grandmother who's about 96 or so, 2 other grandparents who have passed away, and a grandfather who's no longer able to communicate nor move. Not everyone decides to have babies at 25 or even 30! Some like to live their lives first, and perhaps make sure they're financially stable first!
this is actually a good bet to place as scientists already reckon the first people to live 150 years have already been born with advancements in medicine and technology chances are that a lot of people under the age of 50 atm may live to be over 100 years old
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Classic Lee Mack. When he gets caught or has no chance he just goes balls to the wall insane with his story
If he had said great grandad he could'v pulled it off.
I'd say grandad is entirely plausible. In that case his dad and grandad had kids around the age of 40. I mean, that happens. Their wives could be alot younger.
Their wives wouldn't even have to be a lot younger necessarily. It's entirely possible for women in their early 40s to give birth. My own grandmother was around 90 when I was 10, so having a granddad that's 100 at 18 isn't impossible.
If he was born whilst his mum was 35 and his dad was 41. And the granddad was on his dads side, and his dad was born whilst his grandmother was 35 and granddad 41. That would be fairly reasonable whilst being enough to create the 82 year age gap necessary for him to be 18 whilst his granddad was 100.
Charles Dance was 66 when his youngest daughter was born, and his father was 73 when he was born. Ergo her grandad (if he was still alive) would be 154 on her 18th birthday. Being an 18 year old with a centenarian grandfather is perfectly plausible.
My grandad is 96 and I’m 16 so it’s not impossible
I have just one question. Why didn't David Mitchell become a lawyer? Can you imagine any criminal getting away with it with David as the Chief Crown Prosecutor?
He studied Modern History at Cambridge; no surprise that he's an expert at extracting and assessing reliable information.
Think he would be an amazing lawyer x fantastic idea x thanku x god bless x
Even the lowest reprobate criminal can use "no comment"
I want to see him in a show as a prosecutor
I get this a whole lot too, and I very much doubt somebody with those traits, talents, or tendencies towards a certain sort of nervousness would want to cross-examine anybody... Geez
at 1:05 when lee says "s-s-sorry?" and blinked confusingly, i literally spat out my tea
+Faith
If you ask me, that's when we got the proof that Voldemort is still alive and sometimes takes possession of Lee's mind. Or Nagini..or..whatever. British. Harry Potter. Jokes. I'm no good at this.
Spit it out over my face.
He was so proud of himself before that moment
Renegade Shep loves his M-6 Carnifex Hand Cannon lul wut
My grandfather was 100 years old when i turned 16 in 2011 (he was 47 when my dad was born), so i would say that Lee Mack's grandad being 100 when he was 18 is totally plausible.
Of course it's plausible, but it's unlikely.
+Chris R. Sandberg But I think these cases are definitely on the rare side and David's team questioned Lee to test his conviction in his own story.
+ycafe123 If I look in my family tree and others I've seen they're quite common and unremarkable when you have large family sizes and some men ten years older than their wives.... But I guess the idea was to test him and see if he buckles under pressure - which he totally did.
junbh2 That might be true for large families. However, based on info from other episodes, its suggested that Lee is either a single child or perhaps have at most 1 sibling.
+Chris R. Sandberg absolutely, my grandfather died at age 97 when I was 11 and my mum had me at a normal age (32). But it sounds very unlikely on paper but when you do the maths it can happen more than people think. In today's culture there are grandparents in their 40's and sometimes even 30's.
"Why did you think you had your step-grandad's genes?"
This could've been such a straightforward lie but he really dug a hole for himself lol
I think you'll find he dug a hole for his step-grandfather.
Hardly. How could you possibly collect on that bet? Would the bookies still be in business in 82 years?
I love his attempt to save his ass with "step-grand dad"
Would have been so much easier to just say he meant great grand dad 😂
Lee always gets the lies that are really hard to get through with. But he wasn't too bad at defending himself...
+Paw to Paw save for when he blasted a hole in his whole story by saying it was his step-grandfather.
Normally, yes I'd agree that with that but honestly, I don't think this story would be that hard to lie about..
I mean, my pop did the same thing when he was roughly twenty five so it's not like it doesn't happen.
+ManSeaweed I thought that was extremely smart to come up with that on the spot haha
but he could have just said his dad was a lot older than his mother when they married
his dad would have to be like 25 years older than his mum lool
Pierzing.glint1sh7 You do understand that someone's step-something is a family member that is unrelated to them by blood, right? Why would he ever make that bet if it was his STEP grandfather? Then he wouldn't even have the genes of longevity!
+ManSeaweed i don't think it was about genetics it was just the sentiment of living to 100
Thing is, David probably knows Lee's dad and that is why it all fell apart so quickly.
Simple maths, his grandad had his dad at 47, his dad had him when he was 35, (35+47) + 18 = 100. Where was Rachael Riley on this episode?
Having him at 47 is just a taaad weird.
yep lee panicked too much, the math was fine. 40+ isn't old to have a kid. My mother was married to someone 20+ years older than her, and men tend to marry women younger than them. If they were talking about his Mother it might be different, but as long as men aren't sterile, they can have kids easily when they are 40+. I know guys my age who have kids at 50.
My grandmother had my dad at 41 my grandfather was 48 my dad is now 81. My grandmother had my mum's last sibling at 47 my grandfather was 56.
Aleph Null My dad was 49.5 when I was born
@@alephnull4044 no it's not
My grandfather was born in 1913, and was 39 when my mother was born. I was born when she was 38. If he had lived, he would have been 100 the same year I turned 23, only 5 years off Lee's lie. It's an unlikely scenario but not impossible.
my grandad was born in 1901, I was born in 1995. So its entirely possible to have a huge gap
Stationed On Hoth when I would turn 19 my nana would turn 100
no u werent
@@TheItachiRulezWho wasn't what?
My Grandfather died at 234 when i was 13.
Yeah, I can still remember reading about it in the papers and being overwhelmed by a feeling of loss at youth struck down in its prime.
I'm not betting against you living till 100, that's for sure.
Sad to hear he died at 234...we lived next door at 236..
Lee could have pulled that story off if he were better at maths. If Lee's grandfather were say 48 when he had his father and his father was 34 when he had Lee then his grandfather would have been 100 when he was 18. David Mitchell is great at this game.
I'm 17 and my Granddad is 92 so it's not that implausible.
My grandma died at 101 when I was 11...
My younger sister is 18 and my grandad is 101 so its possible.
But implausible enough to question, and to crack him!
This is an awesome program. As a comedy loving Canadian, I look forward to this whenever I know a new one is out...
i love how you can tell the exact moment when lee gave up and started joking around :P
It's interesting to see how much the dynamic between Lee and David has grown and changed over the years. You can tell they're close friends now as to compared to the earlier seasons.
I'm 18 and my grandmother is 97, I don't see what David's problem is.
It's not a problem. It's implausible or unlikely enough, given the usual ages one might have a child, that you would you would ask the question when trying to determine if someone is telling the truth, and it made him crack. If he could have quickly said, my grandad had my dad 47, and my dad had me at 35, so when I was 18 he was 100, it would have been and gone. But it made Lee crack, which is the point of cross examination.
Betting on how long you are going to live? Isn't that basically what life insurances are for?
Life insurance pays out when you die. This would have paid out if he lived.
Many pay out if you live long enough, for example after 10 or 20 years. Anyway it is a bet on someones life span. So the concept is not at all weird or uncommon.
Betting on longevity is something all bookmakers will take small bets on. Lets say they have to pay out £500,000 on someone living to 100 - they will make around £1,000,000 in free advertising in news/radio reports of the bet when they pay out. Very clever marketing. Calvinosaur is right about the difference, because life insurance policies only pay out upon death, and bets like this (had it been true) only pay out when you are alive. The similarity is that both involve actuarial work to different degrees.
"Many pay out if you live long enough".
No, no they don't.
If you don't believe me ask your insurance person.
Still five times more likely than Leicester winning the league
Does this mean he'll actually live to 500?
I have a vision: 'a hitman is to be employed right after a certain celebrity turns 99'
It's possible his Grandad was 100 when he was 18, if his Grandad had Dad at 42 and Dad had Lee at 40. My Dad was 45 when I was born so it's perfectly possible.
I think you should ask how old the mum was instead of the dad
@@hafizur91Why
That look of panic on Lee's face 😂😂
Such a nice detail to add to the story and then it falls apart because of it
my grandmother turned 100 when i was 11 because she was 36 when she had my dad and my dad was 53 when i was born. really out of the ordinary, but Lee's story could have worked
I love when people say "I'm not gonna lie" on this show.
David's serious look at 1:00 gets me every time
Lee's "s-ssorry?!" Was perfect 😂
My paternal great grandmother(dad's maternal grandmom) died last year. She was 97 and I was 27. I was lucky enough to see 3 of my great grand mothers.
If you Pause the video at 2:10 , and you notice Lee's chin, it looks like "34"
The ages do make sense. If his Granddad was about 40 when Lee’s Dad was born and Lee’s Dad was about 40 when Lee was born then that works out and isn’t completely unreasonable
The grandfather being 100 around the time that Lee turned 18 could've worked if both the grandfather and the subsequent generation both had kids in their early 40s, which is not too uncommon.
I find it hilarious that David took issue with it
What would have made me say lie was the odds of 1000/1 no way a bookmaker would give you odds that high because in a group of 1000 people I'd be confident at least 10 would live to 100 years old so you would probably get odds of around 90/1 if such a bet existed
Especially if their grandad had lived to 100...
Do you really think so many people live to a hundred? Imagine how many people you've seen/known/heard of in your life, and now try to think about how many of them were actually 100yo or older? There's 140mln people in Russia, and only 8200 are 100 or older. Sweden with their perfect living conditions, 10mln people and only 1600 people who are a hundred or older. That would make it 1 person out of 6250 people. Also you gotta take into account that not 100% of the people who lived long enough are going to get to the bookies. There are chances of them simply forgeting it, losing the ticket, or the bookie going bankrupt. All being said, I'd say the odds are quite fair.
If he had added that he was allowed to legally get the inherited amount after he had turned 18, he could have pulled it off.
It’s hard to lie to such an intelligent guy
My grandad would have been 86 when I was born
The look on his face when he realised he messed up with the age lol.
I'm 18, my grandad passed away when I was 10. He was three days short of his 87th birthday, so he'd be almost 95 now.
Man I should really stop drinking water while watching WILTY
Further proof that the more complex a lie gets, the harder it is to keep it plausible....
Lol he fumbled it big time because an 82 year difference with your grandad is very possible
I mean, your grandad having your dad at 42 and then your dad having you at 40 isn't unrealistic.
David Mitchell and Lee Mack make this show what it is, can't think of many comedians who could do this so well and so consistently.
I love watching the older episodes to see how they get progressively better at lying.
When I was 18, I had a grandmother that was 98, so it's very possible. Grandma had my dad when she was 38 (just post WWII), and my dad had me when he was 42.
I don’t see why is it hard to believe. when I was 7 my grandmother was 90
pahahaha, David is sooooo good at picking flaws it's unbelievable!
He wanted to say that at 1:25
The only one time I can remember Lee truly messing up his lie
It's bad but there are even worse ones - off the top of my head the BERMUDA one, the left- and right-handed one, and the worst of all, the phonetic alphabet one
Step grandad line was classic
Easily getting spotted as a liar haha. Such a beautiful show and a wonderful personalities.
Lee came up with quite a good story, perhaps if he'd said great granddad they'd have believed him, one slip up cos him in an otherwise incredible on the spot reason
0:58 this is the face of a man who knows he just fucked up
Because marrying a much, much older man is so unusual 🤣
John Tyler was born in 1790 and has two surviving grandsons.
They send you an assassin when you're 99.9yrs
Love how Lee makes up a nice backstory for his lie and then gets caught in it cause he put too much detail haha
This and the Kevin Bridges horse story are the best.
When David said that lee's grandmother was 71 when she had his dad, shows how bad David's mental maths must be as that would make Lee's dad 11, when he had Lee.
All they'd have too be is 41 when they had children and it would work out at 100, it's not even hard for that too occur.
No he was obviously exaggerating for comedic effect
My grandfather was 80 when I was born. My dad and him were both 40 when they had their sons.
This fell apart spectacularly... fabulous😂
At 1:35 David's litle face of contentment is absolutely priceless. XD
You know, I'm 17, and I'm pretty sure my granddad would be around 100 if he were still alive...
lol david is so quick
Well it's been 9 years since, he's doing pretty good so far
Mitchell's the Chuck Norris of arguing
I think the most unrealistic bit of this is the idea that the bookies will pay out on a bet made 82 years prior.
I am 14 and my great grandmother is 109
it's not that far fetched - its just's 40 years between father and son for 2 generations. Both my Granddad's were over 80 when I was born and now both my parents are over 80 when my child was born
This may be the single most transparent round I've ever seen.
1:01 david mitchell's sceptical-face just makes all your lies crumble.
My granddad was 100 before I was 18.
David does this evil laugh at the end xD
@wyterabitt Ha! Very good.
I thought he didn't stand up to the questioning very well. His body language did him in. If he was half as tense telling the truth, he wouldn't be a very good witness on your behalf.
My grandad was 100 2 years before I was born!
its weird because hes northern
clair m Yeah his granddad is probably only in his 50s
It's not particularly unrealistic (or even that uncommon) for a man to have a child in his early forties. If his son also had a child in his early forties, the grandfather could be in his eighties when the grandchild was born. Perfectly reasonable.
Lee should've called David's bluff
I'm 31 and my grandad is 119 years old. Well, I say 'is', he never actually lived that long. He was killed on The Somme on his eighteenth birthday.
So your Dad's 101 years old?
Charlie Says Yes, he had me when he was seventy. Like Des O'Connor.
Legend.
Doesn't really need saying but David is very bright, the idea of his grandad being so old completely passed me by. Lee's look when it's asked looks like he's found a glitch in the matrix
My niece and her grandfather my brother in law's dad had 87 years in different, so it is very plausible. And now my youngest niece has 80 years different between her and her grandmother.
it's a good day when jack dee laughs lol
Technically Lee would have got £500,500 back. I should get out more.
My grandfather would have been 90 years old when I was born. He had my father when he was 48 and my father had me when he was a few weeks shy of 42. So, what's your problem, David?!
Why didn't they ask why the bet just wouldn't work
my grandfather would be about 113 if he were alive today; he served in the first world war and died the year before i was born (i'm 21). so, not that weird
@deletedtarget Neither. They said that their granddad was 102 when they was 18, they didn't say he was 102 NOW. Obviously I couldn't guess when they were 18 to figure out when their granddad was born... read the whole conversation before you make assumptions.
I'm 21. My great grandfather, if he were still alive, would be 104. He was more of a grandfather to me than my actual grandfather. My other great grandfathers were much older. My older half brother, who's 35, met one of the ones we share, but that was long before my time.
In my family, you either live a long time or die young.
+Red Judas which one are you going for?
Anton Magnusson I'm going to live forever.
To be honest I don't know what's so surprising about having a grandfather who was 100 at the age of 18. I'm currently 16 and have a grandmother who's about 96 or so, 2 other grandparents who have passed away, and a grandfather who's no longer able to communicate nor move. Not everyone decides to have babies at 25 or even 30! Some like to live their lives first, and perhaps make sure they're financially stable first!
"It is, in fact, a lie." Yeah, no shit.
I wouldn't want this guy testifying on my behalf in court that's for sure.
I'm 18 and my great grandmother is 83...
My grandfather would've been 95 when I was born. It's perfectly feasible.
He could have simply said: I bet before he reached 100
Lee mack is very funny as well as smart when he makes these comments like not grandad it's step grandad he's quickly trying to calculate the maths 😂
@HarryJones95
Well done. What I am saying is that just cause it's possible doesn't mean it should be discounted as a factor
BBC has the best comedy shows with the funniest pros. I blame it on the accents
my mom had my brother at 42, my grandma was 95 when she died
this is actually a good bet to place as scientists already reckon the first people to live 150 years have already been born with advancements in medicine and technology chances are that a lot of people under the age of 50 atm may live to be over 100 years old
Lee Mack would make an excellent Phoenix Wright antagonist.
Those odds, 1000 to 1, seemed way too good to me