Reaction To The Detroit Pistons Falling To Pick 5 In The NBA Draft 🤬
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- The Detroit Pistons are cursed.
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You gotta understand that Jaden Ivey is probably seen as a bench piece by most teams in the league, and so is the 5th pick in this draft. Trading the two of them together can probably get you a decently good starter, but not a borderline all star caliber player. I think they’re more likely to not trade the pick now because they aren’t going to find good deals. To get a borderline all star at this point, you would probably have to trade Ivey, Duren, and the pick, but i’m sure the pistons would probably be hesitant to trade 3 young guys at once.
Ivey sucks, yes.
Ivey is liked around the NBA. It's still about upside but he has trade value. If Risascher and Topic are gone the Spurs would likely give us pick four. They might even throw in Keldon Johnson.
All valid points, going to be such an interesting offseason.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 I think you're probably wrong, but I sure hope you're right!
I would be thrilled to get 8 from the Spurs for Ivey, so 4 would obviously be even better!
Here's the real joke....that wasn't Asaur laughing..it was Amen 😅
If ZR falls to 5 draft him. I don’t think you trade the pick only because the value of pick 5 is sooooo low. You are better off taking a gamble on the upside of whoever is on your board unfortunately
Can't argue with any of this, although I still think you exhaust all options with trading the pick
The Pistons got the #1 pick 3 year ago and have been picking in top 5 the last 3 year but their fan still crying 😂
Most of us are not crying: most of us are aware that the team's problem is having the very worst GM in history, rather than anything to do with the lottery system.
We are top 5 every year for a reason. Nobody wants to come to Detroit as an all star, nobody wants to coach Detroit. It’s also why charlotte is bad every single year. Unless your team is LA, New York, Boston you have no clue if your team will even be decent. If your team is small market you are screwed unless you get extremely lucky and we are not
@@nuggiesss6193 OKC, Orlando, Minnesota and Houston they all build from draft picks
@@321thach so is the spurs, hornets, pistons, trailblazers and wizards. all are the worst teams in the league
@@nuggiesss6193 the Spurs are on their 2nd year rebuild their future are bright so are the Hornets and the Blazers if they added the right player
Thanks for your kind empathy. My own disappointment with my team feels like a dark cloud over Detroit.
The lottery results don't change much in my opinion. You'd rather have a higher selection so you can choose the player you want versus having to pick through the players still available. However, let's say the Pistons received the #2 pick, my list of players would be Risacher, Buzelis, Knecht, Williams, and Clingan (just added this guy to my list today). Guess what my list is with the Pistons picking at #5. Risacher, Buzelis, Knecht, Williams, and Clingan. See what I'm saying?
I understand what Jack is stating in the video, but I would keep the pick. I don't know that other teams would give proper value for the pick, so I'd rather stick and pick. There are fans complaining about Troy Weaver mismanaging 2nd round picks, well trading a top-5 pick for 30 cents on the dollar would be gross mismanagement to me.
Also the $60mil projected cap space for Pistons included their upcoming 1st round pick with the assumption they had the #1 pick. So dropping to #5 has added more cap space to the projected amount this summer.
NBA needs a bottom feeder, tag your it Detroit lol 😂😂😂
But we've been "it" for many, many years. 😢😢😢
@@jasonmoody4219 That's what they get for continuing to employ the very worst GM in league history. Everything is fucked until they stop doing that.
@@scottwickett1273 and an idiot owner
Maybe we can get lucky and get Cooper Flagg in the future !
Unfortunately the odds don’t care what happened the year before, and the year before that lol 😢
Exactly! The number of people who clearly don't understand that these are independent events is ASTONISHING.
Many of y'all (but definitely not you Nick!) were failed by your schools.
no one is going to want to trade into this draft there’s no juice in the class
Doubt they trade it. No value to be gained. The big question is what they do with the $65M in cap space.
I’d certainly entertain offers for Ivey, but now we’re in such a tough position of over paying guys, to try and get out of the basement. What’s the odds of getting an elite player next to Cade??? They’ve got a hard road a head of them, but we’ve seen good things from all the young talent.
"There are some benefits out of not getting that first overall pick... kinda." Nope. That's nothing but coping. You would never voluntarily drop 4 places in any draft. You can always trade down to get some added value if you don't like the prospects around where you're picking but dropping in the draft lottery is just a loss. The only upside of this I see is that maybe Tom Gores is embarrassed by all this failure he's built and it'll push him to sell the team quicker, but he probably doesn't care.
Yep, everything is fucked until the moron owner fires the very worst GM in the history of the sport.
Agreed. I guarantee the Hawks fans love getting the no1 pick from what situation they were in draft-wise before the lottery. I'm a Nuggets fan, and I would love to get the no1 pick in this class (even though it's weak). A weak draft class will always have a few hits in it, and picking first allows you to have the choice of every player in the class. No matter what sport, it's always a major advantage to pick first. The Pistons missed out on a handful of elite players the last 2 years by falling from 1 to 5. Holmgren, Miller, Banchero, and most importantly, Wembenyama. One of those four guys could have made the Pistons an average team and set them up for a good season next year.
You may not always hit on a high pick, but you'll have a better opportunity the higher you pick.
We never get the guy I want, this year I want either Knecht or Clingan so we will probably pick Matas smfh
It's almost to the point I don't even care. The League is so bad off that they don't even try to hide their bias. And they wonder why NBA watchership is down. Pretty soon, they'll rig it so that the Lakers somehow get and keep the #1 pick.
It's not bias, it's just Weaver being the worst GM in the history of the sport.
Viewership isn't down, and it's not a relevant conversation anyway: just go away and leave the rest of us alone to watch the playoffs (an event that will never involve the Pistons ever again).
@@scottwickett1273 I don't disagree that Weaver being the worst GM. Not sure how I am bothering those who watch the playoffs... kind of a nonsensical comment. Why are you on this podcast if you are so into the playoffs. I'm into the playoffs, especially watching any team beat the Lakers.
@@twhite3850 Because I'm a Pistons fan, and Jack is a righteous dude.
All I meant by the playoffs part is that you said the league is bad (disagree) and biased (again disagree) and you're preoccupied with their business success or perceived lack thereof, so....why are you typing anything at all if you don't even like the product?
@@scottwickett1273 I love the Pistons, and I love basketball. I'm from Detroit, and I'm a Detroit fan. I live in Los Angeles, and in my perception, the league sets it up to help the Lakers and a few other teams to win. I respect that you disagree. I do like the product, and at the same time, believe there is bias.
@@twhite3850 while the league doesn't mind the big markets getting the stars it's the players who choose to favor big markets.
However small market teams have always been able to compete when well managed.
The Celtics and Knicks are the only big markets remaining in the playoffs
The Hawks, Spurs, and Rockets aren't big markets and they are the teams which jumped us.
Jack, it feels like the universe/basketball gods are telling us that we need to stay the course with the guys we have. FO just needs to add better support cast for them. I can't help but feel that anything else will be a huge mistake. All the negative stuff we hear about this team is always about back staff, never the players and locker room. That is the responsibility of the owner and how he sets up the foundations and blueprint.
Tom Gores may be willing to do whatever he can for this team by spending money, but he hasn't done the things that good leaders do. He has not set a philosophy and ethos in place that would catapult this core group. The Lions and Sheila Hamp have done that correctly and we need to understand that good prospects become great players when the environment is established. Pistons have good prospects but I think they don't have the right environment to blossom.
We might as well keep this pick being at 5. It would have been ideal if we got the top pick, but the NBA hates us pistons fans so much that they keep punishing us with lottery bad luck 2 yrs in a row. I wouldnt mind if we get Cody Williams, Dalton Knect, Reed Shepard, Matas Buzelis, Zach Risacher
"The NBA hates us Pistons fans" is just an ignorant and pathetic lie: they won the Cade lottery just recently, it's not the NBA's fault that the worst GM in history has fucked everything up since.
Next year draft class is stacked three franchise changing players there’s no way we fall to 5 four years in a row
Lol do we want another record setting season of losing.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 if you expect anything else you’re delusional
@@user-sr2yr8wb4f are the Pistons done tanking or are they going to take on another bad contract to get draft picks?
I don't know the answer yet. I'm hoping fans aren't going to keep encouraging them to tank. Even moreso I'm hoping Gores is done tanking.
My best guess is that the Pistons will try to win games for the first time since Blake was injured.
Just trying should put us in the 30-30 win range by using 60m to bring in two quality starting veterans.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 They tried to win games this year, they just failed at it because they're stupid.
@@scottwickett1273 the players tried. The GM took on a 20m bad contract to get draft picks.
If we take on a big bad contract this summer to get draft picks we probably aren't exceeding 30 wins.
As a trade chip 1st and 5 is a huge drop off in weak drafts, if was hard to trade the 1st for a decent return trading the 5th is a losing trade.
Yes, if you don't want the pick it's likely nobody else will either.
Id be curious as to the difference in value the 5th pick has to the 1st pick this year. Since the top 5 seems like a conplete mystery, the distance in value cant be that large... even if the overall value is low
Sarr is a step above the rest.
@pheralanpathfinder4897 that's not close to consensus opinion, but I could see that being the case for some front offices
buzelis or Resacher will be there at 5 so we are fine .
Ouch.
Or even Dalton! 23 years old! Self made player, would add some character to this team! Along with smart free agent additions! I still have faith!
@@KevinWilliams-ci1sh Have you ever looked at the list of lottery picks who were already 23 on draft night? It's a REALLY shitty list.
@@scottwickett1273 , yes I have!
@@scottwickett1273 if you find a Cam Johnson or a Buddy Hield in this shitty draft you pick him and run
Its. AD/Zion situation. NBA knows Young is leaving so they gifted Hawks No 1. Even on the coverage they panned to the Hawks Representative 2 times leading up to the start. What needs to be understood is the NBA is more like WWE than a true Basketball League
That tinfoil hat looks good on you!
Cody Williams should be pick at 5
Meh. You could talk me into it if Holland and Sheppard are both gone.
Pistons Bricked the Draft.
#BrickCity
I really hate the NBA☝️🥴
You should hate Weaver, Tellem, and Gorezzzz instead.
Tankers Never Prosper 😂
That's obviously not true, OKC got the top seed in the west this very season!
The Pistons didn't tank. They were really that bad. I saw the players trying to avoid losing and surpassing dubious records.
@@twhite3850 If they were trying, they would have won more than 14 games. They are tanking, no franchise can be that incompetent, dysfunctional, and pathetic.
@@scottwickett1273 Did they tank? No!
They were able to draft wisely, and make trades that were abjectly favorable to them. They fleeced the Clippers.
@@ivandragomiloff2356 They definitely tanked for two seasons by sitting Shai down the stretch.
And I agree with the person above who said the Pistons were not tanking THIS season, the 14-68 record happened instead because of comical ineptitude; in fairness, they were however tanking for 3.5 seasons immediately before that.
The reality is that they really can be and are "that incompetent, dysfunctional, and pathetic", that is in fact exactly what's going on here.
They're not cursed Jack, they just inexplicably continue to employ the very worst GM in the history of the sport.
They're not cursed. The nba doesn't like our team.
@@bigfellamike1913 That's just not true: they won the Cade lottery just recently.
They're fucked because they're stupid, it has nothing to do with the NBA.
So you equate rigged lottery results to how the GM does their job?
@@Shad_216right🙄
@@Shad_216 It's not rigged, you're just a moron.
How do you explain them getting Cade very recently? That fact undermines your whole (pathetically stupid) argument.