Jade of the Maya
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- Guatemala - another video from my trip there, this time looking at the jade in the local museum, plus obsidian, idols, and 1970s fashion tips.
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"We know it's a scribe because the inscriptions tell us so" Lloyd's Masterclass in Archaeology
I once took a class in maya glyphs (no, did not learn to read them) but from what I recall, the maya would often use writing purely decoratively, the glyphs being very elaborate. For example, loads of cups have been found that just have the word "cup" written on them.
@@Oxtocoatl13 a bit like runes in christianised areas of Scandinavia
@@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 yeah or arabic calligraphy in the islamic world or egyptian hieroglyphs. In societies were the ability to read and write was very scarce, access to it was a symbol of status and in some cultures (in pre-christian scandinavia if I'm not mistaken) mystical or even magical properties were attributed to the written word.
@@Oxtocoatl13 actually with runes it's more that the meanings were slowly forgotten but we're still appreciated for aesthetics. It was a terrible comparison in hindsight, all of your examples are far better
And yes runes were also seen as magical
Lindybeige and the Temple of the Jade Idol coming this fall.
Tadicuslegion78 Lindyana Beige
If only..
False. He is a historian, not an archeologist
But they all belong in a museum
SUMMON AN EVEN LARGER MAN!
No beige jade? This is preposterous! I want my money back!
Its in the bottom right corner!
Got that book ready?
And I was expecting to hear about how the British actually produced mayan jade both earlier and to a higher quality than the mayans
lollll
@wood1155 I heard the first particles released in the big bang were in fact british
Cheap shots. Yeah, I got it: he’s too proud to be English and the achievements of his people.
Jade was actually made from microscopic Bren guns
@@geyotepilkington2892 actually it was "Bri", then "tish" was added
4:43 "I think they are overdoing the costume. " I died at this moment.
*in a salty British voice* "Burma, which is now sometimes known as Myanmar"
"Peking, which is now sometimes known as Beijing"
Yeah so that 150,000 for Hannibal has all been blown on Canadian whores and maple syrup hay?
The British couldn't wait to get rid of Burma: it was a net drain on their finances. Not as bad as Vietnam and the Americans though.
@@lukesampson3294 Would you mean the French?
@@Volunteer-per-order_OSullivan "The thirteen British colonies, or as some call them, the United States of America"
The main reason the Maya never really used wheels on machines is that quite a lot of their empire is so mountainous that their roads have to have stairs.
Which make wheels less useful than they might otherwise be.
No draft animals either.
They had wheels on small carts and toys. They knew of wheels, they used them sparingly, they simply transported most everything via rivers cause they lacked the beast of burden to justify larger carts
Mayas in mountains? I think you confused Mayas and Incas XD
Or, if we were to ask Graham Hancock, definitive proof of an ancient super-civilisation, possibly with alien technology.
@@iannordin5250
Did they have wooden wheels? Or anything but stone? A stone cartwheel would weigh a ton (literally), and break the first time it fell over. On a soft road it would sink, on paving stones it would chip and on a perfect surface it could become a runaway nightmare.
I'm starting to suspect every single line in this video has a joke and we're missing 90% of them.
So much Jade in the video - even parts of the comment section has become jaded.
Yeah man, the joke is Lindy and that other chucklefuck have run off with 150,000 pounds of peoples money, by pretending they were gunna release a book
The joke just gets funnier as Lindy tries to distract and confuse his backers in the manner of one playing peekaboo with an infant
AAHAHHAHAHHA, get it?
@@vonclaren1 what?
@@elaenashipp3417 Look into it
@@vonclaren1 You mean the graphic novel they keep releasing updates about and of which they have been very open about the progress?
That one?
www.insearchofhannibal.com/
Lindy arrives in that outfit, "oh no it is the imperials again!"
4:45 oh my god that must be the most hilarious moment in Lindy history. I don't remember Lindy having that type of self ironic moment before.
Lindybiege could make grass growing interesting
Great idea for a vid!
at the start, i was sure you heading towards saying "lumps of purest green"
@@cap5856 Blackadder
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This is my favourite channel
That obsidian mirror is beautiful.
This guy reminds me of my hippy history teacher 10 years ago in highschool. If he teached me the last year I would have made it my proffesion. Other teacher were so boring. This way of bringing knoledge us so motivating.
Level 5 turtle
But a level 100 British lad!!
Thank you so much Lindybeige
Love you Lindy! Big history fan!
I would’ve thought you would’ve pointed out the coincidence that a Jade rabbit on the moon also appears in Chinese Mythhology.
Yes, there must be some sort of primordial connection between the Moon, jade and rabbits which percolated around the world and inveigled itself into lots of cultures. The Chinese called their recent lunar lander the Jade Rabbit.
Connected to seeing the shape of a rabbit in the moon markings. Also spread from China to Japan and other Asian countries.
You're right, its crazy, i just looked into this a little bit, but it turns out that China, Aztecs, and even northern native Americans all have a very similar folklore story involving a rabbit sacrificing itself to feed starving people, and then being sent too the moon by a god. The rabbit is also depicted as a companion to the moon goddess in both Mayan and Chinese cultures, i cant believe this isn't talked about more. I can understand these different cultures seeing a rabbit when looking at the face of the moon, but too have such a similar story to explain the myth? That goes a bit beyond coincidence in my opinion.
@@nickskizekers1906 No, seriously. Look at a photograph of the moon, like this one: www.oarval.org/MoonMapen.htm. The bunny's ears are Mare Fecunditatis and Mare Nectaris; its head is on the right, and it is facing towards the top of the moon (the moon's north pole). It's much more convincing as a rabbit than as a face. That part could be independently noticed.
Could the ancestors of Native Americans have carried astronomical myths across the Bering Strait? Maybe. The constellation Taurus is clearly depicted as a bull in Lascaux cave paintings that are only a little younger than the first human explorers of America, and some Native American myths identify the Great Bear as, well, a great bear.
@@nickskizekers1906 I don't know why this seems like such a mystery, it's pretty clear why they share some basic folk lore considering Native Americans came from Asia.
Nice to see my second favourite Geordy TH-camr (after MightyJingles, obviously) talking about the False God of sciences, Geology.
I really like these adventure videos
Lindybeige is 55 years old , I'm pretty shocked at the fact .
I assumed he was in his 40s to be honest .
Is that actually true? He seemed like a late 30 to me. If over 40 he's really on top of his game
@@ubiquitouspanda4466 I dont know if its true or not as he hasnt confirmed it , But it seemed like he was insinuating that was the year he was born .
Or he could perhaps be trolling us .
I had the camera in one hand and was flicking through a book with the other and trying to keep the conversation flowing. It was the first date I pointed to at random.
I moisturise.
Haha fair enough , Can you tell me where you buy this Miricle moisturiser ? 😆
A newspaper article in 2006 described him as aged 37. So if that was correct he would be about 50 now.
Burma, which is now sometimes known as "Myanmar"
Peking, which is now sometimes known as "Beijing"
The Colonies, which are now sometimes known as "The United States"
The Penal Colony, which is now sometimes known "as Australia"
And British India, which is now sometimes known as "India"
My great-grandfather was a mayan from Yucatán México, he found in the 40s and 50s a lot of jade items in different archeological sites, until now me and my family still have those amazing objects.
BRO that is SO awesome!
Any chance you have photos?
Lindybeige doing the Christian Bale Batman voice was probably the funniest thing I've seen/heard all week.
Avocados may as well be jade, they are expensive! About a dollar each here
Really cheap here, but im in brazil.
A. C
Laughs in New World.
Yeah but they are really cheap here in Guatemala... My country may be a third world country with many many problems, but at least we have cheap avocados which is kind of nice
They have them for $0.49 at an aldi by me.
A. C pffff they’re 1.6 dollars a piece here
So happy for a new vid
"ulmecs and meya" *I'm triggered*
btw interesting video very
I just genuinely love and thoroughly enjoy your videos Lloyd. You are to me, the ideal professor/instructor figure; oh to have had professors like you at University. Alas, that was years ago. Academia today is a shell of itself. Anywho, Cheers!
Please PLEASE make this channel hit 1 million subs.
man they were incredible craftsmen i love it
wow, those sculptures are stunning i love jade now, thanks lindy !
Lindy Field Trip videos are the best!!! Bring more nature sections! The one on forests was wonderful!
My dad just got back from Guatemala. Next time he goes he will definitely visit that museum.
A scalpel maker has started making scalpel blades out of obsidian, because the apex of its edge is 1 molecule thick and leaves a much finer cut that heals far cleaner and they are prized by plastic surgeons for facial incisions
Finally a video under an hour
I like these short Videos a lot! =) At least I have time to actually watch them :D Good work Lindy!
Love these videos.
As usual, fun and educational!
i really enjoyed watching this.
When remarking about the Mayans’ use of wheels, (or lack thereof) I believe that the verticality of the landscape may have played a role. (Ex. Tall jungle trees, mountainous or rocky terrain, thick patchy plant-life, etc)
I would love to visit a jade museum, green is my favorite color. It would be a feast for the eyes. Great video.
Don't normally comment on TH-cam but I love this! As someone who does bioarchaeology farther south in Peru, I've always thought the "wheels on toys" thing was a bit baffling...until I saw the terrain in highland/jungle areas. Wheels can be used for lots beyond just transport...but it kind of makes sense that it never caught on, given the types of landscapes they were living in.
Truly enjoy your videos...!
I love the clay ashtray at 3:10
how many times the word "jade" was said in this video.
it is a video about jade tho
A lump of precious green!
Fascinating
That mirror was dope af
My take from this is..... Jade rocks are used for SFX for mining in movies and video games.
The Chinese also associate the Moon goddess with rabbits. The recent Chinese space agency’s lunar lander was named the Jade Rabbit. That’s just too many coincidences.
Definetly, and its know why- some of the moon-crates can be seen forming a silhouete that looks like... have you guessed? Its much like constelations or shapesin clouds but its even less abstract then those.
This article is good:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit
Then we couple that with how the sun (for a bunch of subtle and not so much reasons is) is globally taken as a male symbol, its counterpart then female... moon have been a goddes to almost all cultures if not all, never saw a male moon god. Despite knowing a lot on simbology i still feel like theres something lacking for me to paint a full picture of why the moon is associated with the feminine; I know its associated with the sea (as its trully is, the tides) wich is commonly female too but why the sea female? Being the birthplace of life is recent knowledge, being a source of it sure for any nation tied to the sees (therefore a motherly figure) but inland cultures have that association too... idk.
Maybe theres something to do with menstruation cycles; I know that close knit women living together line up their cycles, wich unlike in modern days used to work like a clock- i also heard of cycles matching the lunar cycle but i may be mistaken. That could explain moon-female.
So there it is. The female moon. With a giant rabbit mark on it.
@Vincer That’s some crazy convergence. But it might also point to shared Paleolithic legends pre-Bering Strait migration. Rabbits were probably a common source of food for Siberian hunter gatherers.
Or maybe the craters on the moon really looks like a rabbit.
I love when he finds a piece of obsidian and the guy in background is saying "Si encontrás un fragmento ya lo podés clasificar como sitio arqueológico" translated to "If you find only one piece is already an archeological site"
As always, a wonderful mix of information and comedy.
1:10 Here we see a very unique Mayan artifact, found in the ruins of what was their equivalent of the Home Depot paint department.
Great doc.
Oh thats where you get obsidian. I need some for my nether portal
Would you ever do videos about historical fitness plans? Viking? Knights? Mongols? Ancient Greece? I wanna know so bad!!!
Lindy, are there still more videos coming from Guatemala? I love them
Yes.
Great video, Lloyd.
Why hasn't a major network picked you up by now?
Seriously Lindy you're one of the most entertaining people I've seen.
I'd listen to you read the phone book.
What's taking The History Channel so long to find you?
They put all their production budget towards Pawn Stars
Maori (New Zealand) used the local Jade called 'Greenstone" or "Pounamu" to fashion Mere a sharp small club like weapon (very effective), ornate Tiki necklaces and ornate tools as artistic items only. They cut and fashioned the pounamu using water and sand to wear it down which could take generations of work which is why Pounamu items were highly valued and rare. I cut a small piece off a larger bit and rounded off the edges, it was incredibly hard and difficult to work with even with modern tools.
Great episode thanks for all your hard work
Wow a new video by Trey the Explainer and Lindybeige in the *SAME hour?!*
Jolly good
You sir are a man of good taste
whats trey the expleainer
@@stazz316His name is Trey and he explains
@@stazz316 He does videos on paleontology, cryptozoology, and recently a lot of Anthropology. His videos on Mothman, recent paleontological discoveries, and issues of debate like Kennewick Man are a must if you want to learn and be entertained at the same time!
@@JTS21 you as well good man
5:00 The Japanese people I work with tell me about a cultural tidbit (for lack of a better term, this is like common knowledge there in Japan) where if you take a look at a full moon, the pattern made by the craters look like a profile of a rabbit.
Maybe this carried over, or they made the same observation?
They made the same observation.
What a supprisingly random upload! I just found myself in Guatemala one day and hey presto! Now walking around Guatemala in full plate armour..... That would be impressive
The humor is on point!
I hope Lindy visited Maximon while in Antigua. That would be a fun video.
thanks so much for the upload! i always enjoy your content!
That was interesting. I love it!
Obsidian can also be used to kill wights and white walkers.
Dapper Krogan I had a material engineering prof actually show us game of thrones in class when talking about obsidian. Kept us awake lol.
I loved that Olmec Jaguar.
Regarding the wheel: the maya had nothing to pull a cart with. In the hilly land theu lived in, canoes and poor people were much more practical alternatives.
Yeah, wheels are also more useful on level ground.
The goddess of the moon, shown in minute 5:04 is also the goddess of the rabbits because is said in the mayan mithology, that at the beginning of times, there were two suns, and for distinguish one from the other, a god, painted one of them in white, but because of the bright light, they couldn't be differentiated. After that, the gods decided to throw a rabbit directly to the moon, and with that justify those strange darker dots that are at it's surface. I love this kind of histories
Wonderful video!
I sure do love this lad
Obsidian can get very *very* sharp indeed, sharp enough to break the bond between individual atoms
Excellent, as always. You've made me want to go to the jungle, which is something I don't think I've ever said in my life.
A relatively new use for jade is in clothing. Duluth Trading has a line of clothing whose fibers are coated in jade dust and the jade has a cooling effect on the wearer. Kind of interesting
Perhaps that's be one reason jade is so popular for bangles and necklaces in East and South-Asia, as a cooling method in muggy hot climates.
Garnet is used by the tonne to blast steel. Not sure how expensive it can be when a drydock might use a 500 tonnes of the stuff to blast the hull of a ship. I will state that slag is normally used but if the environmental policy requires it, garnet is used.
The Goddess Tlazolteolt @ 4:53 is almost the same as the Golden idol in Raiders Of The Lost Ark, that was an idol of a woman giving birth too
I m just posting that here : I think your dancing video looks amazing, love it. hope you make more. you deserve so much more sub, it blows my mind how underrated this channel still is.
Would love to learn more about their sacred calendar!
Just read in the Guatemalan news a guide at the jade museum was found tied up and was allegedly pommel bashed and then thrown in a cupboard, you wouldn't happen to know anything about that?
Great video, they are getting better produced all the time.
Lindy you're a great narrator mate
Great video . I was at the same place back in 2004 . I bought a small necklace and a pair of earrings .
Known as "pounamu" here in New Zealand. The Maori were using it long before Europeans showed up. Highly regulated nowadays. Southern Alps are of course the intersection of the Australian and Pacfic plates IIRC and that's where the greenstone is found here.
5:02 Jade statue of Moon Goddess with rabbit in Guatemala, pretty much on the other side of the world from China where there are also legends of jade rabbit living on moon. What a coincidence
And European mythology, and Middle Eastern mythology. It's a common theme.
There is actual evidence that there was contact with the Maya of Guatemala and the ancient Chinese. There are carvings on stelas that bare resemblance of Chinese emperors, both cultures used jade, and there are round giant stone carvings of a Pre-Olmec culture that looks so Chinese and these stone statues also have magnetism, which science for a long time have said the ancient Chinese first discovered it, but now science says this Pre-Olmec culture actually identified magnetism before the Chinese.
There's a Jade in my science class, should I inform them that they're from Guatemala?
Nice to see Lindy making videos about other cultures besides Europeans. I’m not Guatemalan by the way.
The jade idol..it still haunts me.....heartstone nightmare
06:02 İ think they didn't use wheels because there was no useful animal for dragging/carrying in the new world.
You can still drag a cartwheel yourself and save yourself a lot of effort. Feels like their rocky and uneven terrain also had a lot to do with it.
China used the wheelbarrow extensively in a period when they stopped building roads..
most wheel barrows are used on construction sites these days so perhaps the fact they they didn't have roads didn't matter @@bloodvue
Was that figurine with wheels really authentic? That one actually raises a lot of questions.
Ah that man. Bit of a unusual video request, but please could we see a video on the ‘mad mullah’ and the British expeditions into Somaliland. Splendid channel and keep up the sterling work.
Fantastic, education, and unexpected video! T
We still use garnet as an abrasive today. It's extremely aggressive as sand blasting media.
just listened to a great courses about the maya and inca, among others. very topical.
It’s not like wheels would be incredibly useful in the geographic landscape of the Maya
They didnt have any pack animals capable of pulling wheeled vehicles either, so wheels were useless
I could be wrong but I believe there was less of the forest in the area due to deforestation at the time
What about wheelbarrows? They can be useful over very short distances. Maybe they had them, but not illustrated. Or they didn't.
@@Marci124 to be fair wheel barrows weren't invented until 200 ad
Strangely Europe doesn't have much evidence of wheelbarrow usage from before the 12th century either, but then again we also don't know the age of that artifact.
Hey Lindybeige - What motivated you to make a video about Jade of all things? Don't think I would've watched whole thing if not for the humor you integrated. I find obsidian more interesting because of its sharpness; supposedly surpasses metals in cutting performance.
gotta love a lindy
Really enjoyed this one, thanks. 👍
(0:30) Look at that piece, polished in some areas as to give it a design. Very nice.
(5:14) I have some great big lumps of obsidian. I particularly like the ones with streaks of red in them, but I don't know what that red is. In any case, they should always be handled with care, because they're very sharp.
(7:20) Argh! Someone dogeared that page - it's a heresy!