The Thief and the Cobbler - Voice Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- This is an idea I thought up. Not many are aware of the differences of the 3 known versions. And there are some that are confused about it. So, I thought of the idea of making Comparisons of show people the differences of each version. The Original version with the combination of the Kermaidas Cut because Richard Williams was also a part of that, the Calvert version that was only released in Australia, and the Miramax version that people know more. Enjoy. I don't own anything in the video. All credit goes to the following person, Richard Williams (creator of The Thief and the Cobbler). And Garrett the Rat (who made a Fan-Edit).
0:00 - The Thief and the Cobbler (Original)
Unknown - Tack
Never Speaks - The Thief
Vincent Price - Zigzag
Sara Crowe - Princess Yum-Yum
Anthony Quayle - King Nod
3:37 - The Princess and the Cobbler (Calvert)
Steve Lively - Tack
Unknown - Narrator
Ed E. Carroll (Only sounds) - The Thief
Vincent Price - Zigzag
Bobbi Page - Princess Yum-Yum
Clive Revill - King Nod
6:01 - Arabian Knight (Miramax)
Matthew Broderick - Tack & Narrator
Jonathan Winters - The Thief
Vincent Price - Zigzag
Jennifer Beals - Princess Yum-Yum
Clive Revill (Some lines changed) - King Nod
I think the Calvert is my favorite version
I love that no matter what they kept Vincent Price as the voice of Zigzag.
Of course. It's not like anyone can replace him 😁
It would be a crime to replace him, I can’t think of someone else’s voice that would truely fit such a comically evil, lanky villain
@@hypokratesthehypocrite3513 no one else could come close to a fraction of what he put into zig zag
good marketing of the film too
Not even the stupidest exec would replace Vincent Price as the main villain of their movie
Just- the thief thinking ‘heloooooo Betty-‘ when he saw the golden balls was HILARIOUS 🤣😂🤣
Wait guys do not clode it
Aaaawwww :(
i will say something small i love about the original when its comes to the sound design, but not voice acting but music, is how that first moment when they stared at each other and tilted their heads, the soft and light music that played perfectly matched the innocence and gentle nature of their feelings looking at each other. The other versions went a little too hard for the “falling in love at first sight” kinda music that takes over the moment and almost feels too loud, distracting from the simpleness and poignancy of the scene. Idk, just another reason i love the original
exactlyy now that u mentioned it, the original is more simple yet fascinating with how Tack never speaks so we have to observe through the taks/nails in his mouth, the original is truly displays how innoncent and adorable tack and princess yumyum's romance is. aside from that, its quite endearing to see the original having more of a cute approach when princess yumyum wakes her father up, compared to the others, the calvert vers is more hurried, whisperish and cartoonish, the other is slightly demanding.
At least they didn’t change zig zags voice
It fits him so well
I’m laughing at the fact in the Calvert version they made tack’s voice deep like at the end of the original
Funny thing, Matthew Broderick is also the voice of Simba in Disney's The Lion King
Huh. Well I like his Simba role better than his role as Tack
Same but why is that funny
The 2nd of his only 2 good roles in my opinion.
"Oh look your dropping you're tacks🤭" 7:05 THIS IS SO FUNNY
6:35 Why hasn't that become a meme yet?
Now it makes more sense why the huge tent was in the room in the beginning.
I really love the original and hope it gets finished via the re-cobbled edition BUT..... Vincent Price just cannot be beat.
I know I mentioned this before, but I believe Clive Revill might also be the Narrator for the Calvert version. In fact, Revill does a very similar voice for the Narrator in Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas.
The CG in that film did not age well. As for his narration for that film, no. I still don't hear it. The narrator for the Calvert version is deeper than Clive Revill's. His take for Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas to which I hear sounds higher than the narrator of the Calvert version. Unless someone comes to reveal who the narrator was, it's going to remain unknown.
@@Josh366lol2 Whatever man, I still believe it's Clive Revill despite what you say.
3:34 Zigzag’s c••kblock face
2:03, 2:50
I like when the viziers shush themselves
the animation is so beautiful
Good job! Currently working on something similar with the War Machine Sequence, with the main thing the video will be putting on is how useless Winters monologue is in Miramax version, as well as how sadly cut down the sequence is in most versions.
Thanks. The idea here is make videos for newcomers, I see so many confused which version is which, so I made videos that help the people the differences.
4:23 I feel this is an alternate Sarah Crowe take, not a Bobbi Page take (this does definitely apply anywhere else in this scene). Idk, it just sounds very close to Crowe’s performance, being less sappy and a little more balanced. It’s also way better then Jennifer Beals strange delivery of “Wake up, wake up father.” (Though that’s also the Miramax version, so of course something is off).
It's Bobbi Page. I can tell since her voice sounds higher than Sara Crowe's.
Miramax is definitely the winner for me. Even just adding the few sound affects that they did was a good idea.
I know this isnt a popular take but i like the miramax version, the thiefs inner monolog is my favorite and i like tacks voice, and the less amount of inappropriate moments is also more comfortable to watch.
Dont get me wrong i like the concept of having tack and the thief being mute, its unique but i still prefer the miramax version, although not so much the music and singing it all kinda meh
I will say this, I don’t think the creepy scene with Zigzag giving the king a concubine was necessary, and not to mention the unfortunate blackface of the slaves carrying her in was either. If anything should’ve been cut/replaced, it should have just been that.
Naah i love storically accurate things and also is funny.
Which versions do you prefer?
Richard Williams (Original)
Fred Calvert (Allied Filmmakers)
Harvey Weinstein (Miramax Pictures/ViacomCBS)
The Original.
Richard Williams, Original version, no offense.
most likely the Original, and the Calvert Version, I like Johnathan Winters who is a great Improviationalist, but I felt he was unnecessary for this film, Expression can say more than actual spoken dialogue, The one thing that was irreplaceable in all 3 version was Vincent Price as the Vizier.
I’ve had mixed feelings for each; I’m a sucker for music like one the Brigands did, but bits of the ones without Jonathan Winters are enough to appreciate too.
The original will always be the best to me. It's hard to watch the other cuts with the knowledge of what happened to Williams and how Disney mistreated it. I'd rather see his art how he intended it to be rather than how a studio wanted it to be so they can push it out for profit.
All I here with the last version is Simba.
ZigZag is ALWAYS Vincent. I love that
I think the voice acting progressively gets worse. Not that the new actors did a bad job, I just don't think their voices fit the characters as well.
Though the later versions did at least have a coherent story and better pacing than the original.
Vincent Price is also the voice of Professor Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective.
I've fallen down a rabbit hole for this movie and I was just curious, does anyone know where I can watch or buy the clarvert version? It's the only one I can't find
You're at the right channel.
th-cam.com/video/Bk1Ipropzwc/w-d-xo.html
And a playlist of every known version and dub.
th-cam.com/play/PLCg8qpOBEAX7eutDUNgSxB1af_BM-PGKp.html
@@Josh366lol2Thank you 🥰 WE are at the right channel
Miramax version has Hanna Barbera sound effects
Idk about y’all but I swear I liked it better when tack didn’t talk he was cuter and more mysterious that way
I mean ok yah the thief too just so I don’t need more of a reason to wish he had less screen time but
Hey I was listening to your edit of the mafia dance from Coonskin and I was wondering if you could please upload the miss America song. I would really appreciate it.
2:45
Funny fact. Jonathan Winters ad-libbed the entire movie. There was no script for him.
Really like that taks voice is deep in the original it weirdly suits him ?
Miramax is still my favourite.
King nod talks like Darth Sidious from empire strikes back
RIP Jonathan Winters
Died trying to steal balls
3:37 - The Australian version is better than the original, because who will watch an animated film that is not completely finished.
the American one is so weird.
Animation community, as an American, I would deeply like to offer my honest and genuine apologies that my country's production sensibilities regarding animation have ABSOLUTELY SUCKED the originality and art out of the medium for decades.
One day after I die, if my unique afterlife lets me try to take on animation, I will do what I can to shoulder and get justice for the sins of the countless corporate bean counters who have never even touched an animation cell before, who ruined perfectly good art because they thought only braindead babies watch it.
4:43 - 4:53 sounds very similar to the Fire Emblem theme
Original Workprint(UK): Why would they show the unfinished parts of the movie? In minute 2:06 the music isn't a little bit too high-pitched? I mean, it's fine, 3:33 at least they could've insert some dissapointing soundtrack in the background by the moment Zig Zag was shown with his displeasure and wrath.
Calvert(AUS): Charming music heard in the background, Yum Yum's voice is too high-pitched, King Nod's voice sounds unique and too fancy.
Miramax(USA): A lot of unnecessary inter-monologues, at least Yum Yum's voice sounds normal and not to high-pitched, some sound effects that portrays situations could be optional (For instance, when the thief sees the three golden balls there's a cash sound effect heard in the background).
I dunno which one would have won but if I had to choose one I'll go either the Calver Or Miramax version.
It's a Workprint, a work-in-progress, meaning it's unfinished. This was as far as Richard Williams got to before he was kicked out of his project.
Miramax is my favorite
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0:59
4:23
6:48
He talks like ratigan from the great mouse detective
That's the same voice actor.
cool
The thief and the cobbler
Or
The cobbler and the princess
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Americans don't know silence... it's ridiculous, they have to describe everything and add useless voice lines
Miramax just sounds so dumb
Hate the Calvert version
In the versions where Tack and the thief didn’t speak, audiences must have gotten confused, so Matthew Broderick and Jonathan Winters’ voices were added in to make better sense of the story.
As well as to give the movie big name celebrities voicing the characters
always count on test audiences being really stupid
That's very unfortunate, because it's obvious that Williams' idea was to make Tack more like a Charlie Chaplin like character and I think that is much more charming in the end.
2:27 I wouldn't be surprised if he used footage of Chaplin to animate this little sequence of Tack walking
well i doubt they even got to audience testing. the original, where the title characters dont speak, was never finished due to the creator passing away. that is why the other versions exist, the property was bought and rehashed and added to in order to be finished and sent out to the world. Imo i dont see how anyone can miss the story or complain with the silent characters, it has been done before and successfully (the thief is remarkably similar to the squirrel in Ice Age, and they spent just as much screentime on him, not speaking and doing crazy stuff, and they made a shit ton of sequels and he became more and more prominent in every one) so yeah i dont think so though ill happily stand corrected if anyone knows
I watched the og before seeing any other versions and I never got confused
0:56
How can you not favor the version with Matthew Broderick?! It's Simba!
Me personally it’s just the Uniqueness of having a silent protagonist that’s actually entertaining, and be able to say a lot with out a spoken word. That makes the original superior in my opinion
Because Richard Williams never intended for Tack to speak. Doing it ruins what he intended. Plus you can tell Matthew was phoning it in just to get money
You showed the "original workprint," but the visuals used were from the Gilchrist cut. The originals are much lower quality, and the colors are muted
For the sake of higher quality. And don't call it the 'Gilchrist Cut', it's just 'Recobbled Cut'.
Wich one is the best to look ?