Very easy run that can be done in one take with multiple crits missed. FUA team got way too much Overhype than it should. I tested that team myself, overall it's really strong and easy to play team but too much of their power was locked behind Topaz E1 and Robin E1 which make that comp incredible expensive even if it's only E0S1 and this is definitely not the best investment for someone that cares about meta. For Topaz, If you want my honest answer, you either go for E1S1 Topaz or you don't. For robin, E1S0 > E0S1. What the heck is that E1, I don't think ppl understand how busted is that Eidonlon, which easily make E1 robin the most OP harmony in the game at same investment. And the team I recommend the most for Dr ratio after Robin release will be Dr Ratio (speed boost) + Robin + Pela/SW + Sustainer
@@TheVengeful0neRead comment properly he said E1S0 Robin which is 2 cost, but I will say Hanabi at 1 cost E0S5DDD with 168spd wind set might be equal to or faster than Robin in terms of clear times. It depends on the team, but Robin looks like the best for 0 cycles.
It's actually infuriating how many times I get told E0S0 Topaz is better than Tingyun/Bronya/Sparkle because "50% Follow up debuff" when my account consistently clears with less Cycles than using Ratio with Topaz. Topaz is not out pacing Bronya, not out pacing Tingyun, and 100% is not out pacing my damn Sparkle. Do they even play the game?
@@shkpotter9844well yes actually, I think the bigger problem is trying to force Topaz and Ratio together. Topaz would actually replace your harmony character, not the debuffer, and the Harmony units we have for ratio is just so competitive with Topaz.
@@charms7232they really said a HUNT CHARACTER with a kit that fits for HER that coincidentally fits with others is BETTER than a HARMONY CHARACTER who's literal MAIN GIMMICK IS BUFFING????????
Topaz mains when they realize they gotta pull 3 golds only to still be a sidegrade to 0 gold Pela Fr though, this is an insane run, I thought I was cool with my low invest Seele run :smoge:
the problem with topaz is that she is solving a problem that doesnt exist, why pull for topaz when u can just use pela and ty and get the same results? in top of that topaz E0S0 is straight up a downgrade to pela
@@recker4267 yes yes i agree with your point except the one when u said "she is *solving* a problem-" i have e0s1 topaz and she's miserable to play with ratio without another source for debuff :')
@@akmal1264 op said "she is solving a problem that doesnt exist" which mean she is not solving anything so what even is your point here ur original comment is still in agreement with op's comment lol
@@akmal1264 "she is solving a problem that doesnt exist", what i mean by that is that she is a sup dedicated for FuA but we dont need a sup dedicaded for FuA because the other options are just as good if not better than her
While I agree with the fact that this F2P composition is pretty strong on him and I do understand the point of this video, I do got to say, the "premium" FUA team is still amazing at E0S0, and I say that after testing each team with and without the best LCs on each characters as well as Eidolons, etc. If we talk about the damage ceiling of the premium FUA team I do agree that a E1S1 Topaz is great for the 3 debuffs she brings as well as damage for the follow ups, E2S1 Aventurine for also 3 debuffs in total as well as tons of damage, great shields, etc, a E1S1 Robin for way more damage as well as making her even more comfortable and a S1 Ratio with as many Eidolons as you want, BUT, this team still does wonders at full E0S0. The fact Ratio applies a debuff with his Basic Skill right of the bat while Aventurine applies one with the Ultimate and Topaz with the Numby mark makes it so that you already reach the 100% mark on enemies, and that, plus the great damage everyone can bring (constant 100k in Ratio's FUAs, Topaz doing 40k all the time, Aventurine bringing some 20k on average and Robin just helping those numbers to get even higher, and yes, I've still managed to reach around the same results even against boss Aventurine) makes it so that, if you ask me, the premium FUA team is still preferable/more comfortable than the one shown in the video. So TL;DR: Yes, the premium FUA team is better with eidolons and sig LCs, yes, Ratio still can slay in a full F2P team, but do not underestimate the power of the premium FUA team still at full E0S0 the way I'm seeing some people do as it is, IMO, still stronger than a hypercarry Ratio.
Là 1 ng có topaz e1s1, tôi nghĩ khả năng theo sau liên tục mới là điểm mạnh của cô ấy, nó không nằm ở việc damage nổ ra thật lớn, mà là việc nó lặp lại liên tục
Đa số mn ko có topaz nên họ sẽ tìm đủ mọi cách để chê. Dr ratio có thể chơi vs team theo sau hoặc hyper đều được t có bộ 3 theo sau nhưng skip robin vì thấy chúng nó đã quá mạnh
còn vài tiếng nữa là Robin ra, mong thầy cho lời khuyên. Tôi có Topaz E1S1. sustain có FX E1, gallager E6. Mei E0. liệu thay thế Mei thành Robin trong team Topaz, Ratio, Gal/fx có mạnh lên nhiều không. Có kinh tế hơn khi skip để lấy trấn Ratio, tinh hồn/ trấn cho Mei, Hanabi không. vì cả 2 hoà hợp này của t đều E0S0.
I should really thank you, i was tempted to pull for Topaz but now I see its probably not worth it for my acc Though i am pulling for march eidolons but its probably going to be on Robin's banner
do you think robin at e0 is worth pulling if i have both limited harmony ruan mei and sparkle ? i main JY , JL , DAN IL and have built kafka , himeko , herta , qq and blade.
E0S1 Robin is as good as E0S1 Hanabi or Ruanmei. But E0S0 robin is arguably not worth to get, Both Ruanmei and Hanabi has very strong f2p LC options while Robin does not, A Harmony that can't use both Dance dance dance and past and future is 100% robin biggest weakness. Her sig is really strong not because of the ER but the self dmg boost to robin and teammate. Don't ignore Robin damage in any comp, her dmg is the main reason that make she good and unique not anything else. As I always said to my friend, go for e0s1 or e1s0 robin, don't stop at e0s0 if you want a character that can perform as a BIS and not a sidegrade option. While You can't go wrong by pulling for more Harmony units, especially if you interested in PvP, true 0 cycle since it's never enough Harmony to use for both sides.
@@YellovvNTH TQ for the insightful reply 🙇♂️ , I don't think I can all the way for Robin e1s0 or e0s1 as I am saving for e1so or e0s1 FF. Looks like I am saving for the next harmony.
@@YellovvNTH You say that "Robin's sig is strong not because of the ER but self dmg boost to Robin, and teammates", but isn't the event LC pretty much similar in such respect? Also, I feel like you undervalue Robin's strength, for what she can provide in PF. I feel like most of the time dual DPS is the way to go in that game mode (particularly if you want to run no sustain). I personally think it's arguably harder to full clear sometime (since it's such a character-check) and Robin can certainly help to alleviate that.
@@YellovvNTH Hey, didn't you promote E1 Robin over S1 just now in the pinned comment? And now you made an entire comment string saying you need her Signature? Just a tad confused with the point you were making. Pulling both either way
@@CaramelMunchie my bad for not clearly explain that. when I said ER is not the main reason that make her LC good is because you can replace her LC with Bronya LC on her anyway and when you do that ER is no longer an issue but the dmg gap from e0s1 is now an issue, Robin dmg got so much weaker with bronya LC, also the team buff. event LC dont give ER which only good if you play her as main dps and use you tingyun ulti on her. And the dmg gap can be easily cover with e1 which is straight up an upgrade over e0s1 (ofc if you have bronya LC on her) which make e1s0 better than e0s1. But idealy, just get both. To make it short, her LC is very strong, YES. But e1 is even stronger.
The same thing i was saying from the start topaz ratio is not better or somewhat bad than ratio pela/SW Although i pulled her beacause she has the cutest pet and best thighs but she is not even comaparble to SW/Pela with ratio even at S1 or E1
@@jibzzzzzzzzzio No i don't know about pela but silverwolf no. I have experienced both i have s1 topaz even if you are adding topaz damage still ratio silver outperform ration topaz.
@@AnordinaryMan007 No a fua team comp with topaz absolutely outdamages silverwolf+ratio team comp. The only reason this team performed as good is because the array of units this MOC cycle lent itself to Silverwolf’s niche abilities.
@@AnordinaryMan007 idk why you would even make this claim? Its objectively false. Please show me the calcs u have that put silver wolf comps above topaz comps for ratio lmao
It was always a side grade until high eids lol Also Robin enables ratio hyper carry to zero cycle aventurine at 3 cost. Same as the jingliu record rn but with 40 extra res.
SW is always a niche character that really good at her job. Even when Pela is better than SW most of the time but we can't never deny SW impact in this meta. While ofc I also find it annoying when ppl said SW is is Best in slot for Team A, Team B... which is actually never accurate. But, SW still one of my recommended unit to get on rerun. Having a niche unit can never go wrong and SW prolly not going to be replace by anything any time soon.
She's good for the utility. Might not be the fastest but there are teams that like having her on certain content, like that 1.6 event thing with break gimmick or recently annoying dino with dmg reduction. Being decent option for ratio, acheron and the only option for mono quantum also solidify her value. That said no tutorial lc anymore, some of her pairing rely on that to function well so that something to consider too
Her eidolon isnt even worth it,E1 if you dont have tutorial LC, E2 dps but its better for other dps or get it on BS/sparkle/RM.. only use SW for now (acheron,ratio,) and upcoming break meta with HMC. Also she would be pretty good in AS content with her single target focused debuffing and fast breaking
Very easy run that can be done in one take with multiple crits missed.
FUA team got way too much Overhype than it should. I tested that team myself, overall it's really strong and easy to play team but too much of their power was locked behind Topaz E1 and Robin E1 which make that comp incredible expensive even if it's only E0S1 and this is definitely not the best investment for someone that cares about meta.
For Topaz, If you want my honest answer, you either go for E1S1 Topaz or you don't.
For robin, E1S0 > E0S1. What the heck is that E1, I don't think ppl understand how busted is that Eidonlon, which easily make E1 robin the most OP harmony in the game at same investment. And the team I recommend the most for Dr ratio after Robin release will be Dr Ratio (speed boost) + Robin + Pela/SW + Sustainer
You are investing in E1S1 Topaz for the meta. I am investing in E0S0 Topaz to find all the missing chests. We are not the same.
not E2 sparkle with DDD over something like E1S1 robin ?
@@GentrafHow about you go to hsr map on internet and mark all chests there 😂😂 invest a character only to find chest? That's hell of a money spending
@@TheVengeful0neRead comment properly he said E1S0 Robin which is 2 cost, but I will say Hanabi at 1 cost E0S5DDD with 168spd wind set might be equal to or faster than Robin in terms of clear times. It depends on the team, but Robin looks like the best for 0 cycles.
Dr, Robin, debuffer and a sustaine for hypercarry Dr ? 😮 Thank you ❤
You have no clue, how frustrating it is seeing every youtuber glaze Topaz... Robin doesn't need Topaz, it's the other way around
It's because they're afraid of getting pulled out of creator server lol.
It's actually infuriating how many times I get told E0S0 Topaz is better than Tingyun/Bronya/Sparkle because "50% Follow up debuff" when my account consistently clears with less Cycles than using Ratio with Topaz. Topaz is not out pacing Bronya, not out pacing Tingyun, and 100% is not out pacing my damn Sparkle. Do they even play the game?
Doesn't it make sense for Robin though, since the follow ups from topaz will facilitate Robin's energy gains?
@@shkpotter9844well yes actually, I think the bigger problem is trying to force Topaz and Ratio together. Topaz would actually replace your harmony character, not the debuffer, and the Harmony units we have for ratio is just so competitive with Topaz.
@@charms7232they really said a HUNT CHARACTER with a kit that fits for HER that coincidentally fits with others is BETTER than a HARMONY CHARACTER who's literal MAIN GIMMICK IS BUFFING????????
tingyun my beloved
I don't think I've ever seen someone 0 cycling MOC with a 4* star healer at 3 golds investment. Nice run!
god damn this is probably the cheapest 0c ive ever seen
lol right as you said this yellovv uploaded an even cheaper JY 0 cycle 😭
Topaz mains when they realize they gotta pull 3 golds only to still be a sidegrade to 0 gold Pela
Fr though, this is an insane run, I thought I was cool with my low invest Seele run :smoge:
the problem with topaz is that she is solving a problem that doesnt exist, why pull for topaz when u can just use pela and ty and get the same results? in top of that topaz E0S0 is straight up a downgrade to pela
nah she doesnt solve anything lmao. Dont pretend topaz herself at base have enough debuff for ratio
@@akmal1264 did u read what i said? u are literally agreeing with my point
@@recker4267 yes yes i agree with your point except the one when u said "she is *solving* a problem-"
i have e0s1 topaz and she's miserable to play with ratio without another source for debuff :')
@@akmal1264 op said "she is solving a problem that doesnt exist" which mean she is not solving anything
so what even is your point here ur original comment is still in agreement with op's comment lol
@@akmal1264 "she is solving a problem that doesnt exist", what i mean by that is that she is a sup dedicated for FuA but we dont need a sup dedicaded for FuA because the other options are just as good if not better than her
EYYYO SENSEI WHATTT???!! This is insane!
While I agree with the fact that this F2P composition is pretty strong on him and I do understand the point of this video, I do got to say, the "premium" FUA team is still amazing at E0S0, and I say that after testing each team with and without the best LCs on each characters as well as Eidolons, etc.
If we talk about the damage ceiling of the premium FUA team I do agree that a E1S1 Topaz is great for the 3 debuffs she brings as well as damage for the follow ups, E2S1 Aventurine for also 3 debuffs in total as well as tons of damage, great shields, etc, a E1S1 Robin for way more damage as well as making her even more comfortable and a S1 Ratio with as many Eidolons as you want, BUT, this team still does wonders at full E0S0.
The fact Ratio applies a debuff with his Basic Skill right of the bat while Aventurine applies one with the Ultimate and Topaz with the Numby mark makes it so that you already reach the 100% mark on enemies, and that, plus the great damage everyone can bring (constant 100k in Ratio's FUAs, Topaz doing 40k all the time, Aventurine bringing some 20k on average and Robin just helping those numbers to get even higher, and yes, I've still managed to reach around the same results even against boss Aventurine) makes it so that, if you ask me, the premium FUA team is still preferable/more comfortable than the one shown in the video.
So TL;DR: Yes, the premium FUA team is better with eidolons and sig LCs, yes, Ratio still can slay in a full F2P team, but do not underestimate the power of the premium FUA team still at full E0S0 the way I'm seeing some people do as it is, IMO, still stronger than a hypercarry Ratio.
Where is Dr. Ratio getting that 20% speed boost from that is shown towards the end of the showcase. DDD?
Là 1 ng có topaz e1s1, tôi nghĩ khả năng theo sau liên tục mới là điểm mạnh của cô ấy, nó không nằm ở việc damage nổ ra thật lớn, mà là việc nó lặp lại liên tục
Đa số mn ko có topaz nên họ sẽ tìm đủ mọi cách để chê. Dr ratio có thể chơi vs team theo sau hoặc hyper đều được t có bộ 3 theo sau nhưng skip robin vì thấy chúng nó đã quá mạnh
còn vài tiếng nữa là Robin ra, mong thầy cho lời khuyên. Tôi có Topaz E1S1. sustain có FX E1, gallager E6. Mei E0. liệu thay thế Mei thành Robin trong team Topaz, Ratio, Gal/fx có mạnh lên nhiều không. Có kinh tế hơn khi skip để lấy trấn Ratio, tinh hồn/ trấn cho Mei, Hanabi không. vì cả 2 hoà hợp này của t đều E0S0.
I should really thank you, i was tempted to pull for Topaz but now I see its probably not worth it for my acc
Though i am pulling for march eidolons but its probably going to be on Robin's banner
do you think robin at e0 is worth pulling if i have both limited harmony ruan mei and sparkle ? i main JY , JL , DAN IL and have built kafka , himeko , herta , qq and blade.
E0S1 Robin is as good as E0S1 Hanabi or Ruanmei. But E0S0 robin is arguably not worth to get, Both Ruanmei and Hanabi has very strong f2p LC options while Robin does not, A Harmony that can't use both Dance dance dance and past and future is 100% robin biggest weakness. Her sig is really strong not because of the ER but the self dmg boost to robin and teammate. Don't ignore Robin damage in any comp, her dmg is the main reason that make she good and unique not anything else. As I always said to my friend, go for e0s1 or e1s0 robin, don't stop at e0s0 if you want a character that can perform as a BIS and not a sidegrade option. While You can't go wrong by pulling for more Harmony units, especially if you interested in PvP, true 0 cycle since it's never enough Harmony to use for both sides.
@@YellovvNTH TQ for the insightful reply 🙇♂️ , I don't think I can all the way for Robin e1s0 or e0s1 as I am saving for e1so or e0s1 FF. Looks like I am saving for the next harmony.
@@YellovvNTH You say that "Robin's sig is strong not because of the ER but self dmg boost to Robin, and teammates", but isn't the event LC pretty much similar in such respect?
Also, I feel like you undervalue Robin's strength, for what she can provide in PF. I feel like most of the time dual DPS is the way to go in that game mode (particularly if you want to run no sustain). I personally think it's arguably harder to full clear sometime (since it's such a character-check) and Robin can certainly help to alleviate that.
@@YellovvNTH Hey, didn't you promote E1 Robin over S1 just now in the pinned comment?
And now you made an entire comment string saying you need her Signature? Just a tad confused with the point you were making. Pulling both either way
@@CaramelMunchie my bad for not clearly explain that. when I said ER is not the main reason that make her LC good is because you can replace her LC with Bronya LC on her anyway and when you do that ER is no longer an issue but the dmg gap from e0s1 is now an issue, Robin dmg got so much weaker with bronya LC, also the team buff. event LC dont give ER which only good if you play her as main dps and use you tingyun ulti on her. And the dmg gap can be easily cover with e1 which is straight up an upgrade over e0s1 (ofc if you have bronya LC on her) which make e1s0 better than e0s1. But idealy, just get both. To make it short, her LC is very strong, YES. But e1 is even stronger.
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The same thing i was saying from the start topaz ratio is not better or somewhat bad than ratio pela/SW Although i pulled her beacause she has the cutest pet and best thighs but she is not even comaparble to SW/Pela with ratio even at S1 or E1
topaz e0s1 > e6 pela and silver wolf e0s1. Just not by alot.
@@jibzzzzzzzzzio No i don't know about pela but silverwolf no. I have experienced both i have s1 topaz even if you are adding topaz damage still ratio silver outperform ration topaz.
@@AnordinaryMan007 No a fua team comp with topaz absolutely outdamages silverwolf+ratio team comp. The only reason this team performed as good is because the array of units this MOC cycle lent itself to Silverwolf’s niche abilities.
@@AnordinaryMan007 idk why you would even make this claim? Its objectively false. Please show me the calcs u have that put silver wolf comps above topaz comps for ratio lmao
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It was always a side grade until high eids lol
Also Robin enables ratio hyper carry to zero cycle aventurine at 3 cost. Same as the jingliu record rn but with 40 extra res.
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Unless you’re getting e0s1 Topaz, dont even bother.
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Silver Wolf is really that girl.. Once in a while she jumps in relevancy. She's only terrible on PF.
Do you think SW is losing value? Ive seen a lot of youtubers say that she is really bad without eidolons and got "lucky" with this MoC
SW is always a niche character that really good at her job. Even when Pela is better than SW most of the time but we can't never deny SW impact in this meta. While ofc I also find it annoying when ppl said SW is is Best in slot for Team A, Team B... which is actually never accurate. But, SW still one of my recommended unit to get on rerun. Having a niche unit can never go wrong and SW prolly not going to be replace by anything any time soon.
She's good for the utility. Might not be the fastest but there are teams that like having her on certain content, like that 1.6 event thing with break gimmick or recently annoying dino with dmg reduction. Being decent option for ratio, acheron and the only option for mono quantum also solidify her value. That said no tutorial lc anymore, some of her pairing rely on that to function well so that something to consider too
Her eidolon isnt even worth it,E1 if you dont have tutorial LC, E2 dps but its better for other dps or get it on BS/sparkle/RM.. only use SW for now (acheron,ratio,) and upcoming break meta with HMC. Also she would be pretty good in AS content with her single target focused debuffing and fast breaking
True. Silverwolf is a utility character that’s good at her job, but she doesn’t belong in a specific team. She’s not compareable to Pela imo.
@@NeretzesE1 + tutorial + Vonwacq makes her AoE debuffer