Katia Ricciarelli - Lucia di Lammermoor - "Mad Scene"

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  • Katia Ricciarelli in the epic mad scene from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor.
    Bregenz, 1982. Conductor: Lamberto Gardelli.
    For a free English translation, please see the following:
    operainenglish.blogspot.com/20...
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  • @AlessandroMaurer
    @AlessandroMaurer 13 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Katia che miracolo della natura! E' vero, i fiori più belli sfioriscono prima.. ma rimangono per sempre nei ricordi di tutti :) brava KATIA! Se tutti quelli che criticano avessero fatto almeno qualcosa di buono quanto hai fatto tu il mondo sarebbe migliore.

  • @massimilianofichera
    @massimilianofichera 15 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ce ne fossero oggi di Katia Ricciarelli, purezza di timbro e voce assolutamante espressiva, resta il fatto che Katia secondo meèun'artista completa e lo dimostra il fatto che si è rivelata una grande attrice e non solo.Quindi grande se oramai è finita con cantante d'opera resta è rimane Katia Ricciarelli!

  • @gallinacciagally5581
    @gallinacciagally5581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Una delle voci italiane più belle degli ultimi 50 anni! Grandissima Artista!
    Peccato che la sua carriera sia stata molto breve... ma le testimonianze audio che ha lasciato degli anni d’oro della sua vocalità sono splendide!

  • @MrCollicelli
    @MrCollicelli 9 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It's definitely a different Lucia but opera is not just about high notes in my opinion. She is a first class singer and the color of her voice is just amazing. If you like high notes of course this is not for you. The interpretation, the fragility, the sweetness, I think she is brilliant even with her limits. And please who compares one singer to another should watch soccer not Opera. It takes big balls just to be on the stage and every singer deserves the highest respect.

    • @uppityglivestockian
      @uppityglivestockian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totalmente de acuerdo. Katia es un bella donna de voz y rostro.

    • @luismanuel-tena
      @luismanuel-tena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Massimiliano Collicelli Damn right!

    • @davidmolina7543
      @davidmolina7543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely

    • @user-tl9fh7qp5h
      @user-tl9fh7qp5h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Вы хвалите низкопозиционное , фальшивое пение ? Создаётся впечатление - проплаченный успех... -- уже тогда был😊

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ma se ci dimentichaimo per un attimo la mania del virtuosismo e dell'estensione e pensiamo al BEL-CANTO la signora Ricciarelli ha prima di tutto un timbro sublime, unico, e in più un legato che Karajan (ma non ci voleva lui a capirlo) fa invidia a tante ma tante voci, dei piani e pianissimi stupendi, una perfetta omogeneità tra i registri salvo gli estremi acuti dove, come la grande Tebaldi, è sempre stata in difficoltà...chi dice che è orrenda si occupi di arte circense, non di canto.

    • @nicolopolo7561
      @nicolopolo7561 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hai fatto una,lettura,completa,,e una,grande,e va il merito che gli aspetta sublime

    • @stefanodallasen796
      @stefanodallasen796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mi piace e non si sente la nostalgia del virtuosismo in alto delle altre.
      Molto espressiva

    • @stefanodallasen796
      @stefanodallasen796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mi sembra l'esito gestito da un soprano lirico quindi centrato sul registro centrale.
      Non si sente nostalgia di acuti.
      La voce, qui veramente toccante.

    • @annitacelsi4902
      @annitacelsi4902 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In questo video la Ricciarelli è veramente brava

  • @romearomeo
    @romearomeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Un timbro di voce stupendo e mi piace anche molto la sua versione della Lucia. Non ho sempre bisogno di acuti e superacuti, personalmente trovo interessante a sentire questo pezzo così...

  • @RossyT80
    @RossyT80 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Concordo in pieno! Ogni volta che ascolto i suoi filati (leggendari!!!) ho dei brividi che percorrono tutto il mio corpo...

  • @malliostar
    @malliostar 14 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bellissima voce e che meravigliosa interpretazione. ;)
    I miei migliori complimenti alla Signora Katia Ricciarelli.

  • @Vsevolod14
    @Vsevolod14 15 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    BRAVA!
    This is exquisite...deeply moving...such delicacy...and beautiful tone. Compared to Netrebko in NY, this is in another league entirely. You don't need meaningless Eflats with sincerity, integrity and gorgeous tone like this.

  • @dollartwenty
    @dollartwenty 16 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Katia's always was a very lovely voice and here we have her individual interpretation of a role essayed by many other great sopranos. Let's just be glad we can have it here and for posterity.

  • @davideferrari5702
    @davideferrari5702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    eseguita in modo diverso da come siamo abituati...trovo molto ben interpretata ..colore vocale molto romantico...brava e coraggiosa

  • @cantorandopera
    @cantorandopera 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ya gotta love that plangent tone! Her "madness" is different than those of the hysterical kind. There are individual interpretations that are legitimate, and this is one. Only Katia could pull this off. How can anyone complain about gorgeous hearfelt singing? To what strain of perfection are you all referring??? This is heavenly singing with true emotional content. Brava Katia!

  • @angelabender8132
    @angelabender8132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Questo pezzo operatico dovrebbe lasciare senza respiro alla fine chi ascolta
    Katia ebbe voce dolcissima e valida ma non riesce a destare emozioni simili a quelle delle interpretazioni leggendarie tipo Sills, Sutherland, Aliberti
    Le tonalità basse non si addicono alla follia ed allo strazio della perdita del bene amato.
    Quando ascoltavo le grandi interpretazioni scoppiavo a piangere al pensiero del mio amato sposo perduto.
    Con questa interpretazione avrei potuto seguirla nota per nota pure io, che sono mezzo soprano .

  • @pablonorbertoperdomo6105
    @pablonorbertoperdomo6105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Many opera fans ignore that most of Lucia's cadenzas were added to the score by great coloratura sopranos after transposing down some of the arias, duets and scenes. Lily Pons was the only soprano EVER that sang the role in the original key plus the added cadenzas. For her second Lucia recording, Callas wanted to sing the original score but Maestro Tullio Serafin advised her not to do so for people light think she could no longer deals sith the high notes. Caballé recorded the original score and it is a pity she didn't do it 5 years early for in Act I aria she sounds really tight, the rest is wonderfully sung though. Cheryl Studer recorded a beautiful Lucia with her own cadenzas but closer to the original score. Sills also had her own cadenzas, somewhat stratospheric. Sutherland adjusted to the tradition and both were simply GREAT! Ricciarelli's version is sublime, she did not need the high E flats to succeed in the role. Her sweetness, dramatic expression, impeccable musicianship and mastery of the Bel Canto style were enough. Open your mind people, not everything in opera is about HIGH NOTES!

    • @cliffgaither
      @cliffgaither 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great contraltos have proven your last point as well as basses and baritones !

    • @jimbuxton2187
      @jimbuxton2187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ruth Welting did the mad scene in F..... she also added a few G's above it!

    • @pablonorbertoperdomo6105
      @pablonorbertoperdomo6105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimbuxton2187 Welting was great. I saw her in Miami in the 80’s in Lakme, simply impressive

    • @jimbuxton2187
      @jimbuxton2187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pablonorbertoperdomo6105 she is a perfect Lakme.... how lucky you were to have heard her...

  • @paulbouvier7442
    @paulbouvier7442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very beautiful voice in this rôle very true

  • @cristinamonaco3474
    @cristinamonaco3474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tremenda ..incomprensibile e cmq ci vuole coraggio

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ho appena ascoltato la Lucia della Devia (divina) e a dispetto di molti dirò la mia: mi piacciono entrambe...sono semplicemente DIVERSE. E' chiaro che dalla Ricciarelli che è un lirico puro con una tessitura palesemente centrale non ci si può aspettare la coloratura pirotecnica di una Devia che ha la metà dello spessore timbrico nonostante negli anni sia maturata e sia passata da un leggero a un bel lirico-leggero pieno!

    • @numetutelare
      @numetutelare 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Però la Devia deve fare i conti on un rimbro standard e con una leggera spocchietta da primadonna .... quando canta si vede che l'espressione é .... "guardate come si canta la lirica" ....

    • @fabriziogarzi9396
      @fabriziogarzi9396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@numetutelare, la Ricciarelli qua' e' stata esemplare, ha dato una vera interpretazione, con un timbro bello e giusto per Lucia. La coloratura poi con Lucia non c'entra, semmai delle agilita'. La spocchia della Devia...un timbro secco, poco evocativo, nessun "maniero scozzese", nessuna propensione drammatica, la prima della classe sezione B. Un mib e una sequela di trilli e picchettato li fanno tutti i soprani di oggi. Brava Katia che e' andata per fortuna oltre. Io invece direi "guarda qua' come si canta la lirica".

  • @nosehook324
    @nosehook324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Die Ausdruckstärkste Lucia auf TH-cam !!

  • @gheeah
    @gheeah 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a stunning performance...

  • @yousuck2
    @yousuck2 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    beautiful tone and control

  • @Peter0955
    @Peter0955 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is truly gorgeous - spellbinding. I would also recommend to all opera lovers the interpretation of Anna Moffo in her debut recordings on Angel - her voice is so beautiful and her Italian is flawless. She was such a special singer!

  • @uppityglivestockian
    @uppityglivestockian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brava! Mil gracias por compartir.

  • @JOHNE65
    @JOHNE65 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE VERSIONS OF THIS SCENE. I LIKE THE ORIGINAL VERSION WITHOUT ALL THE HIGH COLORATURA. SYLVIA SASS AND CABALLE ALSO RECORDED A BEAUTIFUL VERSIONS OF THE ORIGINAL. RICCIARELLI HAD ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VOICES LIVE

    • @charlesrhodes1358
      @charlesrhodes1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original version is in F, not Eflat. So while her effort is admirable, it cannot be referred to as the original.

  • @eberlinpascal2837
    @eberlinpascal2837 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'est une plaisanterie !! Elle esquive toutes les difficultés et les cadences de la scène de la folie .
    Ce n'est pas une Lucia ,elle n'a pas les notes !

  • @RossyT80
    @RossyT80 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Assolutamente! La Bellezza è ciò che mi guida nel mio "viaggio" con la musica lirica!
    E tutto ciò che hai elencato fa capire perchè a un Bergonzi o ad un Kraus,con la massima stima e il più grande rispetto soprattutto per quest'ultimo,io preferisca i due timbri più belli mai uditi: Carreras e Di Stefano,che con le loro voci indietro e acuti aperti mi fanno emozionare! Probabilmente i loro detrattori non conoscono le esibizioni dei loro tempi migliori.In generale,si beino della loro ignoranza...

  • @jeanvital
    @jeanvital 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautifull voice !
    exceptional at 7'!
    wonderfull face and so sweet voice.

  • @nosehook324
    @nosehook324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Die Beste Lucia auf TH-cam, Katia Ricciarelli Traumhaft!

  • @LordoftheTrapdoors
    @LordoftheTrapdoors 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ammirevole sotto il profilo interpretativo e scenico (recitazione sincera e senza eccessi enfatici), ma vocalmente proprio non ci siamo. Tecnica lacunosa (e in un brano del genere la cosa emerge in modo evidente) e uno strumento che inizia a mostrare le prime incrinature, pregiudicando anche il fraseggio e certe sfumature interpretative. Voce delicata e bellissima (ma non basta!). Molto bella e suggestiva la regia.

    • @ivancervi1825
      @ivancervi1825 ปีที่แล้ว

      E' un birignao continuo, dal fatto che non ha Mai voluto una tecnica di appoggio del fiato sul suono..il legato e' praticamente inesistente e prende fiato dopo due battute..

  • @chryssanthemum
    @chryssanthemum 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is such a wonderful vid, such a nice soothing piece....

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    per joyalijo - Avere una antipatia per un soprano é un fatto, non capire o non saper ascoltare é altro. La Ricciarelli, a giudizio di tutti i critici internazionali, quando iniziò a cantare venne definita uno dei timbri più belli dell'ultimo quarto di secolo. Quello che poi ne ha fatto é altro, ma é pretestuoso negare ciò che é oggettivo, poi va da sé che quanto ad ascolto ognuno relativizza quel che é confacente alle proprie orecchie....

  • @esterbruno8604
    @esterbruno8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mi piace molto! Brava! 🤩

    • @stefanodallasen796
      @stefanodallasen796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mi piace molto, timbro, colore, elegismo.
      Non hai nostalgia di sovracuti

  • @Monrocsol
    @Monrocsol 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think this is really beautiful.

  • @nosehook324
    @nosehook324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wundervoll Katia !!

  • @magicflute3
    @magicflute3 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unusual. Very beautiful voice and expression- a pity she did not dare rising higher!

  • @diguchisecuador
    @diguchisecuador 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucia di Lammermoor es la primera opera que me gusta, no se mucho de esto pero il dolce suono es bueno

  • @marceloscosta8289
    @marceloscosta8289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Divina !!
    Presente de Deus em nossas vidas .
    Estupenda!
    Transcendente.
    Um mantra,uma oração,simplesmente ouvida por uma VOZ.
    👏🏽❤👏🏽❤👏🏽❤👏🏽❤👏🏽❤

  • @italiantenor
    @italiantenor 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting to listen to this original version of the mad scene without any high note for coloratura voices.Ricciarelli's voice is very sweet and lyric, her Lucia is new and romantic. There are some errors but it's not bad at all.

  • @stellabersanetti9353
    @stellabersanetti9353 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤che voce sublime❤❤❤❤❤

  • @marcoduc
    @marcoduc 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    troppi portamenti, interpretazione collosa, non si stacca mai dal suolo.

  • @sschimel
    @sschimel 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always loved the warmth of her voice. This is a very uncomplicated lyrical approach to the role and it's actually closer to what Donizetti actually wrote. A lot of the high notes that we associate with Lucia are interpolated. I happen to love the high notes, but I think there's room in this world for both approaches.

    • @charlesrhodes1358
      @charlesrhodes1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not exactly. As Donizetti wrote the mad scene in F, not Eflat. So the color he originally envisioned or heard in his brain was different from present here, as with most modern performances.

    • @sschimel
      @sschimel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesrhodes1358 but don't forget that orchestras tuned slightly lower than modern orchestras so the pitches would be pretty close

  • @robertsentieys6234
    @robertsentieys6234 ปีที่แล้ว

    💖💖💖 !!!!

  • @maxrossi2669
    @maxrossi2669 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    La Ricciarelli è l'ultima grande cantante Italiana degna di menzione, in questa interpretazione è sublime. Peccato che lei abbia avuto una carriera così breve, ma una voce come la sua appare se va bene ogni 50 anni, l'unico suo difetto è non essere mai piaciuta ai loggionisti e agli altri pseudo intenditori d'opera radical chic esterofili.

    • @DonCavagna
      @DonCavagna 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max Rossi andrei piano a dire l'ultima cantante italiana, contemporaneamente a lei c'erano Freni e Scotto dopo di lei abbiamo avuto Gasdia (che però ha fatto cose buone), ora abbiamo Agresta e Cedolins (che però non sento da qualche anno). Se intendiamo come cantanti donne abbiamo Barcellona e Ganassi (anche se sono mezzisoprani)

    • @alessandropelizzoli6613
      @alessandropelizzoli6613 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      E ricordiamo anche Dessi' e Ciofi....

    • @saumia1001
      @saumia1001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      non si è mai impegnata ,la testa era dedita al gioco pesante ,quello dei casinò

  • @alessandraangeli2694
    @alessandraangeli2694 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hai ragione, in effetti Karajan, Abbado, tutti i grandi direttori d'orchestra e dei teatri che hanno portato la Katia in auge si sono accontentati, in realtà aspettavano il miagolio della tua micietta per raggiungere l'iperuranio operistico...ahahahahha grazie la tua idiozia mi ha strappato una sonora risata ci voleva per iniziare bene la giornata :)

  • @iubescbrasovu
    @iubescbrasovu 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good

  • @Rafaello251
    @Rafaello251 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it .

  • @rdsteyer
    @rdsteyer 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Canta muito bem mas faltam todos os agudos tão característicos desta ária.

  • @Ernie1
    @Ernie1 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone is criticizing her for not singing the coloratura and high notes. The role was not written with coloratura and high notes galore. It was also written in lover keys. Callas and Serafin considered the idea of recording Lucia as written but the project was abandoned because they didn't think people would understand. Judging from the comments here I guess they were right.

  • @sevoflurane
    @sevoflurane 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is true actually. Composers usually wrote a long note with a corona on the score. Singers were expected to elaborate a cadenza around that note, a cadenza that would allow them to show of their vocal skills.

  • @alessandraangeli2694
    @alessandraangeli2694 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sicuramente, ma secondo me anche la Ricciarelli ha dato una chiave di lettura personale e anche cantata da una voce lirica e pastosa come la sua trovo il ruolo ugualmente bellissimo...

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cadenza which has become a tradition, but was never written by Donizetti. When the composer wrote “Lucia" he wrote it with the glass harmonica in mind. The instrument creating an otherworldly sound and haunting tone that was said to produce mental instability. As a result, Donizetti crossed it out of his score. But the instrument was supposed to accompany Lucia in her madness. Instead, the flute was put in and with it, a cadenza was created, years after Donizetti had died. Most credit Nellie Melba for the virtuosic cadenza which in many ways adds to the madness in the character. However it also distracts from Donizetti’s more somber tone. If you look at the recording with Andrea Rost, you will hear what Donizetti intended. It may lack the excitement and brilliance of the cadenza, but what it does add is more immediacy to the piece. Today Lucia is often performed by lighter sopranos. That has reduced the opportunity for more lyric voices to perform the role. But in reality, because the opera was written in a different key, it required lyric voices to perform the work. As Olga Peretyatko noted in an interview with OperaWire, “It was not written with all this stuff. It’s optional. In the score there is no E flat or great fioritura. It’s written for a big voice because the Donizetti orchestra is very strong and you should have a very strong voice. And we are used to seeing a lot of high sopranos with great tops but nothing in the middle.”

  • @thomasborgsmidt304
    @thomasborgsmidt304 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I had actually considered Ricciarelli a bit boring - untill I saw a video of her cracking Carreras up in an encore - perfect timing - just as he was supposed to breathe in. That made me realise that there might be more to her than meets the eye and ear. Sometimes you do get wiser.

  • @demar2299
    @demar2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Se avesse smesso nel tempo giusto oggi tutti conoscerebbero la Katia di questo video.

  • @alessandraangeli2694
    @alessandraangeli2694 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    scusa hai il diapason due toni sotto?perchè a quanto ho sentito io quest'artista fino alla fine degli anni 70 ha dato belle prestazioni FINO AL DO, ascoltati il suo ballo in maschera del 75, la sua luisa miller del 74 o del 79, le sue LIù, le sue Mimì (con do filato nel duetto del I atto nella versione con Carreras) , Lombardi alla prima crociata...quant'è brutto giudicare dal basso dell'ignoranza e non dall'alto della conoscenza...ciao Tesoro!

  • @Matt75003
    @Matt75003 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do not see any problem with the (lack of) high notes. The flute cadenza, which Ricciarelli wisely declines to sing, is not by Donizetti at all. It was written in the 1880s by Mathilde Marchesi in order to show off the coloratura skills of her pupil Nellie Melba-and while a great singer such as Callas or Sutherland can turn it into something more or less like music, it is, basically, a pretty shameless (and, if you ask me, utterly tasteless) piece of Victorian bling. I see no reason why a singer who does not have the requisite high notes cannot invent her own cadenza, as would have been perfectly normal in Donizetti's day. Ricciarelli's solution is elegant and musical, and she sings beautifully the rest of this low-lying aria, doing justice to the notes that Donizetti actually wrote, which after all is her job.

    • @minkoss
      @minkoss 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Matt75003 Brilliant!

    • @orion8835
      @orion8835 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Matt75003 Many things have been said and written about non coloratura renditions of LUCIA di Lammermoor. It is an attractive night out and listen for sure with Ricciarelli in the title role here. The traditions are traditions however and Mathilde really did place bel canto and it's furtherance into the 20th C along with her famous and awesome flute cadenza at the end of part 1. The mad scene almost becomes a cradle song or prayer without it.

    • @Matt75003
      @Matt75003 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Daniel Raphael I suspect that "a cradle song or prayer" is exactly what Donizetti had in mind. I don't object to the flute cadenza when it is well sung. What upsets me is that it has quite undeservedly become the most famous section of the opera, when it is in fact its weakest musical link. Talented sopranos get criticized for not singing it, and some avoid singing the role altogether as they feel they do not have the requisite high notes-which is patently absurd as the rest of Lucia's music does not require them. Traditions come and go, as old recordings reveal. Some early twentieth-century singers did not feel compelled to sing the flute cadenza and still did a pretty good job. Great as she was, Callas sometimes struggled with it, and I am sure that she would have loved to skip it every now and then. We should cut our singers some slack and allow them to enjoy the same freedom as instrumentalists, who compose their own cadenzas as a matter of course.

    • @orion8835
      @orion8835 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Many people interested in opera have tried to make the claim the Lucia ( as well as a number of other Donizetti soprano roles) were intended come scritto. That is without any embellishments . in the case of Lucia and the scèna della pazzia a cadenza was not only present along with a higher key of F it was also with the glass harmonica.
      The entire role of Lucia is to be a cold creepy one of dementia and madness and the tessitura is actually higher for a soprano. The role of course was created by a very high soprano well before the mentioned Mathilde cadenzi emerged by Mme Tacchinardi Persiani the Italian coloratura soprano. She also created the roles Amina and Adina in other Donizetti opera.
      At either rate the reality is Ricciarelli and many other sopranos over the years sing the Il dolce suono..in the lower key of Eb and add no high notes or a modest cadenza. But to purport that there was never any cadenzi used originally is simply untrue. Melba's performance of Mathilde's cadenza just was very successful and has stuck. Donizetti always intended cadenzi to be used by his performers and this mad scene had one opening night. And incidentally "Chi mi frena " the sextet from Act 2 in Lucia is arguably more recognisable than the mad scene and many would say is more famous. Lucia di Lammermoor's mad scene sung without a cadenza of any kind can be completely boring.
      The aria was meant to be a scene of madness and insanity... not a prayer or cradle song. Ricciarelli was a beloved in the 1980's. She sang a lot of vocal material that frankly did not really suit her plangent yet soft grained voice. She never had any success in her high notes past B natural ( beyond 1970's when her voice was almost completely different as a soprano). Her lower register was inaudible in the theater. The voice was placed in many unsuitable repertoire almost as a rebellion it seems. Turandot and Lucia seem to be her most widely acknowledged "mistakes" of her entire career and much is well documented of this. The former for obvious reasons mainly lack of vocal heft and the latter for the utter blandness and lack of coloratura expression. Ricciarelli had a lot of opportunities.Verdi's Luisa Miller seems to have been her perfect role. Her voice to me is almost an entire subject altogether.
      In MY opinion Lucia is a good night out even without added coloratura acuti notes. The opera as a whole seems to work with many different types of Lucia's. I have heard it with soubrettes, light lyric sopranos, no high notes, full lyric soprano's, dramatic & lyric coloraturas, in the key of F and Eb etc etc. The whole opera is so well conceived it works with what ever type of soprano.. as long as she can move the voice and it is not rhythmically dull and has expression. The composition of the entire opera is quite beautiful and very passionate and stately.

  • @chengducat
    @chengducat 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it; my kind of girl

  • @pasielu
    @pasielu 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    veramente la cadenza che ha scritto Donizetti era poi un invito ai soprani ad aggiungere qualcosa di loro,infatti Donizetti ha scritto l'accordo iniziale eppoi ha lasciato fare ai soprani dell'epoca.
    Questa pagina mette in risalto le capacità dei cantanti negli acuti e sovracuti,ma sopprattutto nelle agilità,il mi bemolle se un soprano non c'è la pieno,e meglio che si limiti al RE
    segue

  • @andremad75
    @andremad75 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    ..."Spargi d'amaro pianto"? I dream about Katia's rendition of this cabaletta.. Gabba Thanks for her wonderful mad scene..

  • @pasielu
    @pasielu 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    La pazzia è stata scritta in fa,ma è molto piu conosciuta nella versione che si ascolta piu frequente cioe in mi maggiore.
    Comunque Donizetti ha composto e dato un indirizzo tonale,poi i soprani dell'epoca l'hanno completata con i virtuosismi,e la cadenza voce e flauto
    gia in mi maggiore tanti soprani sono in difficolta a cantarla come si deve figurarsi in fa

  • @dollartwenty
    @dollartwenty 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say I'm confused by all the comments praising singers who do not decorate the vocal line. Donizetti,Bellini,Rossini and all their contemporaries expected and indeed relied on their divas and divos to have the musicality and vocal wherewithal to do just that. Elaborate variations were the norm. There are still plenty of extant copies of style guides from the period illustrating extraordinary variations.

  • @irenavisockiene3735
    @irenavisockiene3735 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaip mąsto taip dainuoja- stebuklingai!

  • @BiDiO
    @BiDiO 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    La Callas ha fatto TUTTO, a sto punto nessuno potrebbe più fare niente stando al tuo ragionamento.
    La Ricciarelli senza dubbio non è la Callas, ma è stato un soprano di discreto successo ed anche abbastanza stimato dalla critica

  • @lojundolo
    @lojundolo 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a 6:28 si dimentica di attaccare, recupera dopo togliendo mezzo verso di testo.

  • @chryssanthemum
    @chryssanthemum 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is good enough for you?

  • @MultiZahl
    @MultiZahl 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sehr gefühlvoll gesungen,aber es fehlen die hohen Noten( C,D,Es) Schade-die gehören allerdings dazu!! Sorry

  • @minkoss
    @minkoss 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although the role was written for a more coloratura voice, I agree that she's one of my favorite Lucia! I always love heavy voices... I wonder how she is in Tosca?

  • @84adlig
    @84adlig 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Posso consigliarti di ascoltare Mariella Devia che canta questo pezzo..ti assicuro che è di gran lunga migliore! ;) fammi sapere

  • @romainlefsab2812
    @romainlefsab2812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sublime

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pazienza non crucciarti, col tempo imparerai a non confondere la seta col cotone... e non importa se il patrimonio vocale di Katia sia stato davvero mal gestito, almeno lei non é una oggettiva soubrette da operetta che poteva diventare un apprezzabile soprano, Resta il fatto che nessuno ha potuto vantare il timbro miracoloso della Ricciarelli.

  • @Orfeus80
    @Orfeus80 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your complaints to Donizetti, he didn't write it! This is the ending he has written.

  • @salroberto
    @salroberto 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey this is the song they had on the movie the Fifth Element cool

  • @andrealupini6769
    @andrealupini6769 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    per essere grandi non c'é bisogno di avere sovracuti! Tito schipa non arrivava a coprire due ottave classiche non aveva dopo i 30 ne do ne si nota estrema era il la eppure aveva il centro che aveva dizione perfetta come la tecnica! non si puó dire che vocalmente fosse dotato come caruso o gigli eppure è considerato uno dei più grandi di tutti i tempi il problema della ricciarelli é sempre stato un repertorio troppo vasto più di 100 opere farebbero crollare in pochi anni chiunque ! detto questo è una performance dignitosa ma siamo abituati ad un altro tipo di cadenze! certo sono altre le lucie di riferimento !

  • @malliostar
    @malliostar 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Aquinas40
    OK. It's a pleasure to meet you. Bye. ;)

  • @amdnovello
    @amdnovello 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    che bel timbro che ha!
    forse non è adatta a pezzi così sostenuti ma nessuno canta bene tutto...

  • @inguaribileromantico4456
    @inguaribileromantico4456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    D'accordissimo! se poi c'è tecnica e bellezza insieme anche meglio, ma meglio un Carreras di un Kraus tutta la vita, pur riconoscendo l'impeccabile tecnica di quest'ultimo...

  • @Ortrudase
    @Ortrudase 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    who did the coloratura and tha cadenzas then ?
    to whom did the idea belong ?

  • @domesongwish
    @domesongwish 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is this being recorded, please? I always like her.

  • @milamasina5346
    @milamasina5346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    voce da l'usignolo !!

  • @philipc67
    @philipc67 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally wrong, she should never have attempted Lucia, just as Caballe should have never recorded it. For the ablosute best please refer to the live performances of Callas in Berlin 1955 with Karajan (her Mad Scene is overwhelming, both vocally and dramatically) and Sutherland at Covent Garden 1959 with Serafin, beautifully sung and well acted, too!

  • @topolinik
    @topolinik 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come mai non c'è la cadenza con il flauto? Scelta interpretativa?

  • @malliostar
    @malliostar 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Aquinas40
    ... but I'm agreeing with you about it. Perhaps you didn't read well :)

  • @maleficare
    @maleficare 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aceptable but not good enough. Luba FTW!

  • @Mandolino82
    @Mandolino82 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 poi che siano un miraoclo per una come lei, nn significa che siano gradevoli da ascoltare e perfetti tecnicamente come quelli di devia.

  • @bosbriguy
    @bosbriguy 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    if it wasn't for the orchestra i wouldn't have been able to say it was even lucia.

  • @uccellodellanotte
    @uccellodellanotte 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    è la merda che è sempre stata...così la canto pure io.

  • @pasielu
    @pasielu 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    scusa c'è stato un o sbaglio...

  • @bestiamora
    @bestiamora 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ma sei audioleso ????

  • @FranzBlumVan1890
    @FranzBlumVan1890 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    No great coloratura, but what a lovely voice and strong performance

  • @Orfeus80
    @Orfeus80 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a late 19th century cadenza for N. Melba. It doesn't have anything to do with Donizetti and those or similar high ornaments aren't found anywhere else in Lucia so it's unlikely they would have made sense to Donizetti. I like them but the written option with the right voice can be equally effective.

  • @kurtgarmaker3719
    @kurtgarmaker3719 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flat "floated" tones. No you dont need E flats but high C's are mandatory.. good ones

  • @thomastmwc
    @thomastmwc 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if this is called a mad scene, Joanie's were? Crazily lunatic scenes??

  • @branko1b
    @branko1b 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is not quite comparable to anything else - as different form the 'great dame' (who i adore) the text of libretto is pronounced (with a feeling for it) with an incredible musical precision - shame the vid doesn't go to at least to "spargi ..." - it is even better than Moffo, wonder does her 'regnava.." has the 'dramatic crassness' & early madness of Moffo's version - i guess the marks under top here are because of shortness - not because people heave heard that part sung better - lol

  • @lojundolo
    @lojundolo 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    anche la Caballé, se non sbaglio, in quegli anni uscì con un disco della Lucia con Lopez Cobos, aveva tolto tutta la coloratura e le cadenze tradizionali.

  • @eradesso
    @eradesso 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guarda ti rispondo solo perchè mi fai pietà: vai a leggerti qualche manuale sul Fach vocale e magari scoprirai questo strano sconosciuto chiamato Hochdramatischer Sopran o Soprano Wagneriano (nella traduzione Italiana ed Inglese)
    Su una cosa concordiamo, cantare un ruolo non significa saperlo cantare o aver lo strumento adatto. Lo dimostra qui sopra la Sig.ra Ricciarelli.

  • @carmeloserafin5101
    @carmeloserafin5101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a leggervi muoio dal ridere...la sua caratura di artista era quella di calarsi nelle parti cucendosele addosso...come su misura...in Micaela a Parigi beccò una serata no...la fischiarono...mancando chi dovesse fare le ultime tre repliche per malattia... accettò di cantare lei e priva di pressioni cantò meravigliosamente.

  • @Alcisko
    @Alcisko 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    As you see lucia can be a woman,not a bird with high notes only. She sings with big emotion and that is really important.

  • @Orfeus80
    @Orfeus80 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caballe never sang the role on stage,only in studio in the 70s.If Ricciarelli had done it then, she would have been perfect for the original Donizetti Lucia score.Even in 82, I find her more interesting than Sills and Sutherland. Tone more beautiful, clear and phrasing more eloquent even if she's more effortful in high passages.

  • @anacleto2011
    @anacleto2011 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    posso dire che la trovo noiossissima ?

  • @ChileThailandtravel
    @ChileThailandtravel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buen vídeo. Disfruté viéndolo. Gracias por ver mi video. Me he suscrito. Espero que también te suscribas. hasta luego.

  • @Mandolino82
    @Mandolino82 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    La Lucia delal Devia è la migliore in assoluto!

    • @giudiciadanna4550
      @giudiciadanna4550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mandolino82, la Devia migliore in assoluto...ma non diciamo stronzate. Timbro brutto e secco sorretto da una tecnica sopraffina ma con un fraseggio da cuoca e che non porta a nulla, se non alla noia completa. Per fortuna e' al ritiro.

  • @eradesso
    @eradesso 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dicesi ciancicone uno che parla a sproposito e tu l'hai fatto dicendo è un ruolo per soprano leggero e non per drammatico.
    Né la Sutherland, né la Devia (che io amo alla follia) né la Callas (prescindendo da top5/top10) né la Gruberova e nemmeno tante altre che hanno fatto da padrone in questo ruolo sono soprano leggere.
    La Ricciarelli ha fatto ben poche cose memorabili e nell'opera avere una bella voce non significa nulla se si cantano ruoli sbagliati e se manca la tecnica