Dehaka all round sounds strong. Except I think his swarm hosts cost more. And creeper hosts are only useful if you can deny the swarm hosts pushing your line back. So with good support: dehaka can endure and break the deadlock. To get support you have to stack with your allies wave, which means they can't be dying to swarm hosts themselves.
@@benjaminwilliams2715 He may not say it in the chat to them directly, but he's CONSTANTLY saying it in the videos he makes, themselves, lol. Honestly that's worse, too, since he can do it where they can't retort or explain and it just makes them look bad and him look good (usually).
Incursus, you evil evil monster.. I LOVE IT!!! Although I don't think Chris Sigaty and the creator of Direct Strike had thought about this outcome when the game and gamemode were made LOL
lil psa: the +75% cooldown speed, due to inner workings of the game, only really reduces the cooldown by ~42.9% which is still good, but not 75%, most of the time you'll want to NOT stack reductions, since they have diminishing returns
yeah since it is "+x% cooldown speed" and not "-x% cooldown time" its really not that great to stack too many of them but with locusts limited lifetime its probably not worth to pick +30hp more than once either and since you really only want to delay the opponent all the dmg auras are probably also not worth tl;dr the 2nd set of auras was probably ideal
I spent all day yesterday spamming dehaka and abathur locust. You're almost guarenteed to get at least one cool down speed aura, and it's glorious. Even Life-Life-Life locust without cooldown reduction is amazing.
My personal favorite for this weekly is stukov with life auras, both the civilians and the broodlings get the extra health so you can rain death with siege tanks while they slowly chew through your almost unkillable hordes
always loved infinite spawning units in games my favorite commander in normal coop being stukov so fell in love with the swarmhost when they got added in heart of the swarm in its still there
next time you get a chance to do this again, just get a team of 3 people all going swarm hosts and allow the infinite locust to truly, become the INFITNATE locust
I feel that any odd strategy against a Tychus is not a real test. Of all the commanders, he is the one least able to adapt his build from his original plan. His units are just too expensive, it takes him forever to bring out a counter - and by the time you do, you are propably 1 wave out of sync and need something else entirely. And a 3v2 just reinforces that, forcing him to fight 3 different enemies with different builds. But I agree it is a hard thing to counter. The problem is that Locusts are both a siege weapon and targetable. To defeat a siege unit, you have to hit it. But the locusts clog up the targetting so much, units rarely get to shoot the spawners themself. Also abilitxy based AoE just fails - it has to be a passive AoE.
I miss these videos incursus lol. Also I still think you should.make tutorial videos for the game modes you play, like cat and mouse or Terran and maze
The problem with cat and mouse is that over the course of a year or slightly more, it has been reworked 2-3 times at least, massively changing the gameplay. Like atm, instead of being able to spawn a second cat, even if with changed stats, you start with 500 hp, but respawn infinitely, each time with +2k hp or something, and a longer respawn time, the walls aren't entirely minerals anymore, 2/3 of the base locations are covered in destructible rocks, etc. But in general, would be nice to do.
I wonder if Spread Oil might be worth it against the Swarm Hosts if you’re Tychus vs Abathur. The thing about unending tides of locusts is that there can be a potential for an unending tide of flame, and the situation changing would probably call for it as a more cost-effective way to beat endless locust.
this was how swarm host should have felt in spawn time (just let it cost 1-2 minerals each spawn, so not free'). though if they just built 1 raven+ a few banshee its easy to take out the locus, it also give you an excuse for bc late game xD
I feel like Artanis or Fenix would have a fairly good chance at beating the infinite swarm hosts. Colossi/Warbringer do immense damage to giant mobs of low armor units. And, with Talis and Adepts having bouncing shots, I imagine they'd be pretty good at clearing that as well. Only thing would be trying to balance that out so the Protoss wave isn't hardcore shut down by the other enemy waves.
What if you build up to a strong number of swarm hosts, and have two buddies as your teammates who leave. So you are spawning the hosts every single spawn
Imagine going Stukov, choosing 3 +30hp bonuses, then mass infested civilians + infested marrines. A cheap, mass produced army more tankier that they should have any right to be. Especially if you put i. tanks + i. diamondbacks behind them.
The funny thing i just played this and i was so exited to see it... i thought at first it was a bug but NO ITS A INSANE!!! THE LOCUSTS ARE JUST A BEGGINING!!! Like wrath walkers with 15 range... yea thats real and 24hp regen or 13 armor ultra or 75% cdr and 75% energy regen artanis archon and tychus 75% cdr BRUH THATS JUST THE BEGGINING
I got harassed for this entire brawl if I built anything except swarm hosts when I had swarm hosts available, regardless of my auras. Was fun, but I got tired of getting micromanaged.
the only counter i can think of is... aerial splash? is there a thing? Does Swann's science vessel have Irradiate? Do the locust have Pressurized Glands?
Would tychus be able to survive somewhat with blaze frontline and nikara healers? I'm assuming blaze would upgrade oil spill, nikara probably upgrades healing rate, tychus gets armor pen rounds, and overall going for full armor upgrades? Alternatively with sirius instead of blaze for explosive turrets and missile?
Han and Horner Vikings would probably do well too if you kept them on the ground. Edit: Or if they don't contest the sky at all, just fly them behind the Swarm hosts and then land.
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You're the Spiffing Brit of the weekly brawl
When Abathur uses 1% of his power:
Gotta love meta stickers getting wronged dismissing meme builds
Because they aren't doing regular DS lol
@@ChaoticNeutralMatt All the more reason to go meme heavy :p
@@HibiscusOrchid sometimes h the memes don’t work and you just get shit pushed back in
@@bluesap7318 duh, hence why it's a meme build 😂
people who play like that don't know how to fight memes
Dehaka's creeper host and swarm host works pretty well, and they are more tankier than normal swarm host
They also fly to the front so none of that slow walk bs 🤣
@@dilldowd8877 interesting point
stukovs siege tanks with fire rate? just like the normal stukov siege tank meme but better.
Can't forget that Dehaka also having reduced cooldowns will work in his favour
Dehaka all round sounds strong. Except I think his swarm hosts cost more.
And creeper hosts are only useful if you can deny the swarm hosts pushing your line back.
So with good support: dehaka can endure and break the deadlock.
To get support you have to stack with your allies wave, which means they can't be dying to swarm hosts themselves.
When the infinite swarm truly becomes infinite.
"You can't play a tank in starcraft 2! It's not even an RPG"
Incursus: "bet"
Now just imagine the true infinite locust, where Incursus is alone like in the Endless Legion video
I request a link.
@@Lucifer_Nihilum I gatchu homie! A year late but better late than never!
th-cam.com/video/GGzR80BUSFU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ProjectIncursusGaming
"roaches and ravagers"
"not swarm hosts"
hate these kinda people who try to backseat gaming their teammates
@@grassnogr423 Incursus does it all the damn time in these videos, lmao.
Incursus: I’ll try to remember that.
@@KainYusanagi Incursus doesnt say it in the chat normally. If anything he says it to help people who are watching learn.
@@benjaminwilliams2715 He may not say it in the chat to them directly, but he's CONSTANTLY saying it in the videos he makes, themselves, lol. Honestly that's worse, too, since he can do it where they can't retort or explain and it just makes them look bad and him look good (usually).
‘Not there to deal damage’ - highest non heroic dps units in the entire game
To be fair, this version only deploys 2 locusts per spawn
Return of the Heart of the Swarm
Incursus, you evil evil monster.. I LOVE IT!!! Although I don't think Chris Sigaty and the creator of Direct Strike had thought about this outcome when the game and gamemode were made LOL
If Incursus says something is "Fair and Balanced," it usually isn't
The Spiffing Incursus strikes again
Am I the only one who experienced flashbacks to Carbot's "ZvZ"?
lil psa: the +75% cooldown speed, due to inner workings of the game, only really reduces the cooldown by ~42.9%
which is still good, but not 75%, most of the time you'll want to NOT stack reductions, since they have diminishing returns
yeah since it is "+x% cooldown speed" and not "-x% cooldown time" its really not that great to stack too many of them
but with locusts limited lifetime its probably not worth to pick +30hp more than once either and since you really only want to delay the opponent all the dmg auras are probably also not worth
tl;dr the 2nd set of auras was probably ideal
Abathur seems like he'll be one of the stronger commanders this week.
I spent all day yesterday spamming dehaka and abathur locust. You're almost guarenteed to get at least one cool down speed aura, and it's glorious. Even Life-Life-Life locust without cooldown reduction is amazing.
The Spiffing Brit method of describing video game strategies is FAIR and BALANCED
My personal favorite for this weekly is stukov with life auras, both the civilians and the broodlings get the extra health so you can rain death with siege tanks while they slowly chew through your almost unkillable hordes
I love Dehaka's Creeper Hosts, would be nice to see more of 'em.
Would be fun to see this strategy where your other teammates leave.
Finally! More Direct strike videos :) thank you sir!
I was extremely pleased to see a new SC2 vid. Thanks you!
always loved infinite spawning units in games my favorite commander in normal coop being stukov so fell in love with the swarmhost when they got added in heart of the swarm in its still there
Oh, yes, more please. This is really fun to watch
MORE OF THIS PLEASE!
next time you get a chance to do this again, just get a team of 3 people all going swarm hosts and allow the infinite locust to truly, become the INFITNATE locust
Or just get a game where you go 1v3.
The "i have more troops than you have bullets" approach i see.
Tychus doing his best impression of doomsayer after this brawl.
Pretty sure the answer for Tychus is Nux spam with getting the same starting buffs for cooldown if they want to beat something like this
Incursus builds be like: alright I have more locusts than you have ammo, wanna surrender or will you make this fun for me
I love this Weekly Brawl
wait, this isn’t the spiffing brit...
nice one
Is that like a discount cynical brit?
Found you again after 2 years, I'm on my new PC now, instead of my phone (:
I feel that any odd strategy against a Tychus is not a real test.
Of all the commanders, he is the one least able to adapt his build from his original plan. His units are just too expensive, it takes him forever to bring out a counter - and by the time you do, you are propably 1 wave out of sync and need something else entirely. And a 3v2 just reinforces that, forcing him to fight 3 different enemies with different builds.
But I agree it is a hard thing to counter. The problem is that Locusts are both a siege weapon and targetable. To defeat a siege unit, you have to hit it. But the locusts clog up the targetting so much, units rarely get to shoot the spawners themself.
Also abilitxy based AoE just fails - it has to be a passive AoE.
perfectly balanced. Reminds me of random crits.
Triple blood science vessel
I miss these videos incursus lol.
Also I still think you should.make tutorial videos for the game modes you play, like cat and mouse or Terran and maze
The problem with cat and mouse is that over the course of a year or slightly more, it has been reworked 2-3 times at least, massively changing the gameplay. Like atm, instead of being able to spawn a second cat, even if with changed stats, you start with 500 hp, but respawn infinitely, each time with +2k hp or something, and a longer respawn time, the walls aren't entirely minerals anymore, 2/3 of the base locations are covered in destructible rocks, etc.
But in general, would be nice to do.
Yes, yesterday i lost from this a few times and it get so ridiculous when even mass splash like colossus can't beat it. So i will wait next brawl
I wonder if Spread Oil might be worth it against the Swarm Hosts if you’re Tychus vs Abathur. The thing about unending tides of locusts is that there can be a potential for an unending tide of flame, and the situation changing would probably call for it as a more cost-effective way to beat endless locust.
Yep! Very balanced! Let me just... only use this strategy.
that was disgustingly entertaining
this was how swarm host should have felt in spawn time (just let it cost 1-2 minerals each spawn, so not free').
though if they just built 1 raven+ a few banshee its easy to take out the locus, it also give you an excuse for bc late game xD
I feel like Artanis or Fenix would have a fairly good chance at beating the infinite swarm hosts. Colossi/Warbringer do immense damage to giant mobs of low armor units. And, with Talis and Adepts having bouncing shots, I imagine they'd be pretty good at clearing that as well.
Only thing would be trying to balance that out so the Protoss wave isn't hardcore shut down by the other enemy waves.
Feeding the algorithm. Good video btw. I still haven't gotten 75% cdr abathur.
The strat that becomes. "Who quits first." also imagine 100% cooldown reduction...
it is not "+x% reduction" it is "+x% speed" aka +100% speed is "only" twice as fast aka half cooldown
@@Caribbeanmax Not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about if you ended up with no cooldown whatso ever. Not just what its giving you.
@@syncringe1885 which you cant, even if you could pick the aura 4 times
@@Caribbeanmax Which is why I said to imagine it.
Not gonna lie, I'm super happy to see direct strike again
Ha, from meme to new meta builds with this weekly brawl
Ravagers also benefit from cd and you actually want to get them once hosts start holding the enemy well enough.
this is spiffin brit level of shenanigan
Can we get a video on the 40 armor roach ? O.o
Yay new video
Would this build also work with broodlords? Or energy regen infestors?
What if you build up to a strong number of swarm hosts, and have two buddies as your teammates who leave. So you are spawning the hosts every single spawn
Imagine going Stukov, choosing 3 +30hp bonuses, then mass infested civilians + infested marrines.
A cheap, mass produced army more tankier that they should have any right to be.
Especially if you put i. tanks + i. diamondbacks behind them.
i need more
shenanigens
when incursus uses 1% of his brain power
I think Han&Horner with their Vikings and Shredder Rounds are a good counter to this
legally it's questionable, morally it's disgusting, personally I like it.
maybe, big maybe, vorazun with a boatload of stasis wards can do something here. Maybe.
keeping those algorithms happy..
that was awesome
The funny thing i just played this and i was so exited to see it... i thought at first it was a bug but NO ITS A INSANE!!! THE LOCUSTS ARE JUST A BEGGINING!!!
Like wrath walkers with 15 range... yea thats real and 24hp regen or 13 armor ultra or 75% cdr and 75% energy regen artanis archon and tychus 75% cdr BRUH THATS JUST THE BEGGINING
I got harassed for this entire brawl if I built anything except swarm hosts when I had swarm hosts available, regardless of my auras. Was fun, but I got tired of getting micromanaged.
I know the counter to Swarm Host.
Swarm Hosts.
this was hilarious
Don’t forget stetman Zerglings with 3x blood
I kinda feel bad for the opponents
Colosi should be good against this IMO, gonna go and try:)
you won way too fast,so you had to put in a second game😂
the only counter i can think of is... aerial splash? is there a thing? Does Swann's science vessel have Irradiate? Do the locust have Pressurized Glands?
Yes to both of those, nova banshees would do well though, they can aoe burst the first wave and go straight for the locusts
Would tychus be able to survive somewhat with blaze frontline and nikara healers? I'm assuming blaze would upgrade oil spill, nikara probably upgrades healing rate, tychus gets armor pen rounds, and overall going for full armor upgrades?
Alternatively with sirius instead of blaze for explosive turrets and missile?
I found cooldown abaththur raveagers counter it pretty hard cause they get of there cooldown before they hatch
mass swann goliaths for some reason counters this. I lost this way once. I think it's the super high range of goliaths. swarms can't reach
I really wanna see this with shield-restoring invis blink stalkers
Wish granted
how does some more circle world sound?
Do mind that’s cd speed not cd reduction you only get 40% faster with spam when you get all three auras
Any tank commander should deal with it easily
ayyy more direct strike, let's go!
Is there any other unit that Shawn's stuff that you can use?
We are legion
i kind'a want to see 150hp infested civilian spam
I like those
Excuse me but how do I and my friend play this mod, we seem to only find the normal units, and this campaign units look amazing
Custom tab. In the search search "direct strike" and look for commanders or weekly game types
This is disgusting! . . . I love it.
Absolutely DISGUSTING!!! I love it!
Commenting for the algorithm
So basically carriers.
Carriers Only.
Try out a triple buffed raynor bio. His marine attack speed should be on crack
Stukov and raynor tanks are about it for true counters to this
Han and Horner Vikings would probably do well too if you kept them on the ground.
Edit: Or if they don't contest the sky at all, just fly them behind the Swarm hosts and then land.
try tycus sirus fear with this cd stratergy . it make them 100% fear
Can full marine counter this? Maybe from reynor
nice
Stupid that the swarm hosts disappear after the next wave approaches
what game mode is this?
most interaction
Swarmhosts = Economy go brrrrr
Do the spazlisks with this or a high attack speed boosted unit and boost that
Is it still on? Now i wanna play it
I expect more cheese with CD
Do more of this
Mass air counters till you get air upgrade then they do a split air ground