The walls and ceiling of our cabin insulated but not the floor or perimeter skirting and we're on a slope where one end of the floor is 4 feet off the ground. I had thought I'd wrap inside the skirting at least with bubble foil. I've spent a couple weeks during the past five winters in the cabin and it hasn't been hard to keep warm. I wear slippers and use carpet runners and the cold floor isn't a serious issue. I haven't had any trouble with mice but we often see chipmunks going under the cabin. The chipmunks haven't been much of a problem so far except they do go after my wife's tomatoes. Thanks for the video Terry !
That is good to know. I went back and forth on the skirting. I can always put it on if i change my mind. I agree. a couple of carpet remnants makes a huge difference on the floor.
Got an idea Buck! Instead of shoving the rigid foam into the openings, take a sheet of plywood cut to fit the space. Just like the insulation. Glue it and stew it. This way nothing can get to the foam instead a solid piece of wood on the bottom, Get it? Instead of putting in large sheets from underneath put in drop down pieces. Remember thermal bridging, my brother!
I am a fellow Minnesotan and I can't believe the fall we are having, not much snow, all melted. I'm enjoying watching the progress of your cabin and bunkhouse. Isn't it nice to work outside with no mosquitos! I just wish it didn't get dark so early. Stay safe and have a great weekend!!
Good job Terry. Looks great. There are so many ways and pros and cons on building. My cabin is up off the ground as well. I did crawl under and plywood the underside to keep out any rodents. I have had it 13 years and (knock on wood) have not had a mouse yet.
@@TRERUNSWILD just keep poison under your floors, keep them under control! Once they start making nests , they will chew the foam and even make tunnels ,
@@TRERUNSWILD yes 👍 , you have really nice place !!! I live on a farm in Wisconsin, my wife and I live in the woods too , not a cabin it’s a house , we love it !!
I would: install your strapping deep enough down so 1/4 plywood (treated)goes in first j. Secure at outside edges with caulking. Then install insulation board or pink? Should be fairly rodent proof. Watch out for knots… B Deacon ManItoba 🇨🇦 Canada
I dont know skirting really blocks that cold wind underneath and seems to keep it a little warmer. I did mine this summer, we've had some really cold days I think it makes a big difference.
Hello… fun to watch.. not sure if mentioned but you need to cover your blocks… snow rain ice will fill the holes and freeze…snap crackle and pop… you may lose your outside blocks…simple and easy… aluminum cookie sheets…upside down of course… being a contractor from northern Maine the stories I could tell… all the woods animals will want to crawl under your building and winter… simple solution… roll up chicken wire and stuff it all around just under the edges… an unwanted skunk will render your cabin useless… good luck… it was -2* here yesterday 😳😩
Your comment is perfectly timed! I was just wondering yesterday if water would puddle in there and freeze! I had noticed a bit of snow had fallen in the openings since they stick out from the beam edges. So you gave me confirmation that I will need to address that! Thank you!
I'm with you on not putting skirting on and my cabin is 18" above ground and for the last 3 years I have never had a problem but I also have treated plywood with 6" air space with fiberglass insulation.
Very fun to watch your bunkhouse project!! Learn as you go & you don’t know until you just do it. Glad you got some nice weather temporarily to continue progress!!
Great work! Tedious work may be satisfying when finished and looking good but always upset me when working on my cabin with limited weekend days and being two hours from home!
The flooring sheets are 1/4th inch short to allow a 1/8th inch gap on each side (the width of a 16d nail) to allow for expansion of the wood chips over time. Most strandboard has a wax film on it that allows up to 9 months of weather exposure (if you don't walk on it). But this coating will make any stain or sealant applied very patchy.
Canadian here, Built many cabins over the years tried all the methods mice won every time, for a warm floor on blocks is insulated skirting none in the floor seems to work the best put plastic on the ground Good luck enjoy your videos
@@TRERUNSWILD What you did will work great for warmth insulated skirting is better if you are going to run drain pipes in the crawlspace I'm 70 still learning keep life fun enjoy your videos 😊
If you read the tarp package the ACTUAL is always smaller than what it says on the big print on the front. Tongue and groove plywood is the same way. It starts off as 4 x 8 sheet then they mill the tongue and groove off it. You should read ALL the fine print.
Lesson learned that's for sure! Seems counter intuitive that the big bold description isn't accurate but I suppose it's marketing or something. Definitely would be easier to just be able to take stuff at face value. Now I know!
You can use the insulation nails with the cap heads and nail strips of hardware cloth to the underside of the insulation to prevent rodent intrusion. The mice and rats will try to chew through the insulation but the hardware cloth prevents intrusion. Worked for me.
@@TRERUNSWILD yeah. I imagine the costs have soared. I think I was paying around $40 a roll. I think I used the 3 foot and stapled it with a bit of overlap.
Great video. i Love watching your videos and your attention to all of the details. your bunkhouse is looking Awesome! the jig the you made for the strapping to hold the insulation is a Wicked Awesome idea. just to let you know. on tongue and groove 4 by 8 sheet goods, the tongue is including on the 4 feet. you are Very right on using nails and glue on your floor, the nails hold the 4 x 8 sheets to the floor joists while the glue cures. :)
@@TRERUNSWILDwhen we built our house back in 1996 we ran into same issue. Came up 2.5" short across the house. Used strip of tongue and groove hardwood flooring to finish it off. The tongue is the issue. That's 3/16 or more per sheet lost. Didn't know that then but haven't forgotten that hard lesson 😮
That has to be SO hard to plan for when building a big house? If I would have known that I would end up nailing OSB to the edges I woul dhave just used OSB on the whole works!
Loving your channel sir....❤❤.. I'm building a hunt cabin now in northern Ontario... love this warmer season so far.. I'm trying the reflectex floor this one, so I will skirt.. like that boss of the swamp guy promotes.. have a blessed day.
Sweet! I have to give you an A+ on your project so far and this video. I enjoyed it all. Those night sky shots you throw in are the best. Favorite quote "good talk, good talk". Already looking forward to your next video. Thanks for taking us along. God bless!
Love your channel. You’re a funny humble guy & when you have those oh shit moments it really makes me laugh, and I’d say with the attitude you’ve got you always seem too make it through it. You’re really not any different than most of us, just a better attitude than myself when I screw shit up! lol Looking forward to your next video Terry!!!
Geez, I just left HD and you are 100% correct. I'm not sure what I was talking about in the video since i compared the two products side by side in the store. I think maybe I was considering price to R value? I can't remember what sold me on the Rtech over pink. Maybe price was my decision factor compared to extra R-value? IDK. Thanks for pointing that out. People read comments and it will be good for them to see this for accuracy.
Cracking vlog, Tre. It's great to see the launch of a new major project. I'm watching from my hotel room at London Heathrow with a good coffee from a fancy machine. (Nespresso). Fight is 1:30pm GMT - 10hr duration. Thick frost on the cars yesterday morning in my neighborhood, cold in London this morning too. It's going to be 62f when i land in NOLA today. NOLA today 75f/62f and rain. The warm weather will be appreciated! Be well and stay safe. Puck.
The water in the Thomson will be fine I would cell the hell out that O S B or you will hate your self down the road when you do have a water leak and you will have one. I m 63 and know what I'm talking about. Have a nice day.
OBSERVATION the reason why the sandwich method is better in regards to insulating is that theres no insulating loss or heat loss through the wood joists where as when you cut the panels, heat loss occurs through the floor joists or in otherwords, where the panels arent. I came across this information and study when wanting to insulate my crawl space
Good afternoon Terry! So nice to see the bunkhouse coming along! I give you credit for working in Northern Mn. outside at this time of year. 😊🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s
I'm from Robbinsdsle, th r shirt in is need to keep it from the cold and amials. All my parents cabins near Crosbe we had skirting from the animals. I dont miss the cold here in Fl.
I like that Crosby area. Such cool little towns, that and Ironton. I wish I was in Florida! I'm hoping the floor is high enough up off the ground that it won't be as attractive to animals? Hoping........
Awesome video Terry!! The bunkhouse floor really looks good. I’m looking forward to seeing it come together. Really enjoyed the video looking forward to the next one. Be safe take care buddy.
I didn't know ryobi made a framing nailer. I have mostly ryobi stuff but I caved and bought thr Milwaukee framing nailer. It works awesome but man it was expensive. Tounge and groove is annoying since the tounge is part of the 4ft. I just balance the shortcomings on each side and fill the gap with foam once I have the wall plates down.
I built many houses, and cabins and the only thing I would do different than what you did, I would have put treated plywood down, even 1/4” plywood before you put the insulation down. Either way what you’re doing looks great !!
I had considered that. I may regret not doing it. One reason I put it up at that height was to be able to get underneath it. I might end up nailing from below if I start to see issues.
Excellent work Terry love it so far see you on the next one have a great week here from Ontario Canada ❤️❤️❤️❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦😎 p.s. I shared this video on Facebook publicly so maybe you will get more subscribers that would be helpful for you……
I built a 16 x 50 a few years ago the same way, furrowing strips holding up 2 inch insulation. No rodent issues and the floor is warm. My cabin has bubble foil on half of the floor, there's a huge difference in where it is and isnt. Either way works well.
Honestly they are about the same, foam vs bubble foil. I bought this place with a small 10 x 20 cabin on it, floor isnt insulated and I cant get under it. I added on and that part has the bubble foil on the floor joists. @@TRERUNSWILD
The foil back i think will work as i heard mice hate it and wont bite through it as they are hemophiliacs and stay away from it in fear of cutting themselves. That’s also why the bubble wrap works for boss of the swamp.
My understanding (probably wrong) Is that foil is a radiant barrier and needs an airspace or is useless. So if an airspace then yes, face heat back into house. If no space, then face cold back into ground. Plus the foil might be rodent and insect barrier? I probably should have set it into the joist another inch and faced the foil into the cabin?
I used OSB In my basement I pant my Alexa lot better Fights against the moisture When you look at It might be a sealed side The rough side is not sealed The smooth siders is That's how it is in Michigan
I think if you could have done it different you could have just attached a sill plate around the top edge of the floor and laid the foam board, then subfloor on top of that, trim off two edges and done Not sure what your build on the inside is going to be but if you're not going to have any load bearing walls it would have been much less work and less little gaps in the foam board and floor joists. Just a thought.
When I was researching I read the comments on channels. So I think people will see your comment. Maybe I'll do a "I learned" clip to share ideas of what could have gone better.
Good video brother I just seen this do you like that Ryobi nail gun and if so does it shoot pretty good and I got another question for you you do you know of any extra land up there kind of cheap brother that's what I like to do get up there and build me a nice little cabin please let me know I appreciate you thank you sir
I do like the gun. A little heavy but it will run all day on a battery with casual use. A good website for land is landwatch.com. As far as cheap that is very subjective compared to what you want. I think compared to southern states we are generally way cheaper than stuff I see advertised
How's that framing nailer? I lost patience waiting for the Ryobi and ended up getting a Ridgid. The Ridgid is a GREAT nailer, but now I have two different battery platforms. Glad Ryobi finally made one.
I've run about 1500 nails through so far and no issues after I figured out the old box of nails I got at the thrift store were too corroded to use. New nails and she runs like a top.
I'm not sure if you are referring to the red and black or the green horse blanket looking one but I got them both at Costco for super cheap. And they are wool or a blend at least.
How do you know how to do all that wood working stuff? Do you study before hand? Just curious. River is TOTALLY beautiful. He is so sweet.you should absolutely do a few “ shorts “ of him now and then. I live in Mounds View, Mn. , but I know that Northern Mn. Is gorgeous all year long. Love your videos. ❤️✌🏻. PS you’re cute.🤷♀️
Not adding a poly layer becsuse the foam is moisture resistant?! What about the wood and subfloor attached to it? What you have is better than nothing, but filling the joist cavities full to get R-23 plus a notyom vapor barrier woild have done wonders for warmth, wood longevity and critter control. Maybe even less work than installkng all those 2x2 rails and cutting the foam...
I was looking for something with some insulating quality. Bubble foil is radiant and doesn't have any R-value. I opted for foil backed foam so hoping for the best of both worlds?
hello my friend I have seen others use some type of metal from tin roofing to diamond plate under the cabin floor to prevent rodents etc from accessing the cabin of course it depends on the budget just curious if you have heard or seen of this?
Love the video. Quick question for you. Looks like your building is 12' wide. What made you decide to run 3 skids instead of 2 skids and larger floor joists? Not being critical just asking the thought process? Thanks!
It may have just been inexperience? I looked at joist tables and just liked the lightness and cheapness of 2x6 instead of 2x10 or 2x8 joists. If I ever put something heavy in there like a rock wall behind a heavy wood stove i wanted to be confident it wouldn't sag over time.
Making good progress Terry! I don’t recall if you mentioned installing a wood stove in this building. Do you still have that original wood stove that was missing some parts? If so, you could get that up and running. Keep on grinding away.
I still have an old stove but I'm not sure if I will put in in there. the space is so small it might not be a good use. I'm considering a diesel heater but haven't decided yet.
That would mean twice as many measurements, twice as much cutting, more recharging of the batteries, and double the cost of the OSB. You would also lose the moisture barrier and sacrifice all that bottom sheeting.
Dont skirt it. Theres no point because you insulated the floor. Theres no benefit to it. Also when you do the siding run it down to just below the rim joist. Your subfloor pannels are a bit short because they are suposto have a 1/8in gap all the way around.
Hello Tre, been awhile since I’ve commented but still enjoy your posts. I’ve got a quick question what brand is your chainsaw mill and is it a good choice? Thanks
I use to use Echo, they worked well for me. What I was interested in was the brand of the mill you use. I have a few logs that I’d like to plank out and was looking for a mill since the local sawmills want 300+ a log.
Gotcha! I have a Granberg Alaskan mill? I got it a few years ago from Northern Tool and paid about $125-150 for it. I only have a 18 inch bar so it was the only one that fit my saw. I'd prefer a bigger one that attaches at the front of the bar as well. Mine can cut at an angle sometimes and the front attachment would keep it level.
OK I was looking at a Carmyra, they seem to be affordable. Thanks for your insight. Enjoy your cold weather. I headed south for the winter but miss the less congested north. BTW nice deer.
Your sheets of ply are square , so you can tell as soon as you start sheathing you will know if you are square. Also when your diagonal measure is 1/8 " of that means you are only 1/16" out of square which is fine.1/16" only matters in finish work and you are building a piano.😢
The truth is. I didn't know any better. In the end it will be the same for strength. but you are right. I would off set them them next time because it would be easier for nailing.
Why did you build a bunkhouse instead of putting an addition on your cabin. You will need a lot more firewood to heat 2 buildings. Looking good so far.
It is 12x16. I wish I had either gone with a 6/12 roof or made knee walls and had a mucher higher loft. 8/12 pitch is kind of useless and will just make the heat rise in the winter.
With 3/4 sub floor, 1.5 inch foam and 1/4 sheeting I'd need I'd need 5 " screws. They are hard to find and super expensive. Plus I'd have to hand screw instead of nail.
Yes hardware cloth is expensive however, it will keep rodents out and for your future it is a good idea. Remember you are keeping rodents out of your cabin from the ground out. Trust me, they will eat the foam.
Hey BA. Thanks for chiming in. Like i said in the video learning what NOT to do is as valuable for beginners like me as WHAT TO do. You probably didn't want to get into it and seem like you were just negative but constructive criticism is very valuable for myself and others who will read the comments. Sharing your knowledge and experience is helpful for us who have none. So please, feel free to offer advice it would be appreciated.
Terry, where do I send your Christmas card? I have slouthed a bit looking for your address--can't find it. We got our first significant snow last night. I was wondering if you will get the bunkhouse dried in before it snows. 🤔☃❄🏂🎄
Senior rep at HHW said cabin builders around here in Labrador often lay down tar paper to keep rodents from chewing threw
This is the first time that I have heard of this. Maybe they don't like the tar. Very interesting and a great tip!
The walls and ceiling of our cabin insulated but not the floor or perimeter skirting and we're on a slope where one end of the floor is 4 feet off the ground. I had thought I'd wrap inside the skirting at least with bubble foil. I've spent a couple weeks during the past five winters in the cabin and it hasn't been hard to keep warm. I wear slippers and use carpet runners and the cold floor isn't a serious issue. I haven't had any trouble with mice but we often see chipmunks going under the cabin. The chipmunks haven't been much of a problem so far except they do go after my wife's tomatoes. Thanks for the video Terry !
That is good to know. I went back and forth on the skirting. I can always put it on if i change my mind. I agree. a couple of carpet remnants makes a huge difference on the floor.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
First time looking your channel and I say WOW YOU DO WORK GOOD. Will keep following you in the futur. Thanks. Have a good one.
Thank you! You too!
"Guaranteed not to rain." Starry night. Works every time. LOL Better safe than sorry.
Didn't get so lucky 2 days later though! Good thing I had it tarped!
Great progress my friend !!!!!!Looks great!!!! With a bunk house DEER Camp!!!!!!! Thats some good livin right there!!!!!
Thanks 👍
Hey Terry those little critters love that foam board. Hope they leave yours alone
The floor looks great! Good job!
Shhhhhh.......don't ruin my fantasy KB! 🤪 I'm hoping the foil backing will be a deterrent. Wishful thinking probbaly
@@TRERUNSWILD haha.. yes I think your right Terry, the foil will be great!
Got an idea Buck! Instead of shoving the rigid foam into the openings, take a sheet of plywood cut to fit the space. Just like the insulation. Glue it and stew it. This way nothing can get to the foam instead a solid piece of wood on the bottom, Get it? Instead of putting in large sheets from underneath put in drop down pieces. Remember thermal bridging, my brother!
I had thought about that. Probably should have done it.
I am a fellow Minnesotan and I can't believe the fall we are having, not much snow, all melted. I'm enjoying watching the progress of your cabin and bunkhouse. Isn't it nice to work outside with no mosquitos! I just wish it didn't get dark so early. Stay safe and have a great weekend!!
Oh man it is awesome! Supposed to be nice into mid December. That will help pass the winter blues!
Continued successes 👍👍👍
Good job Terry. Looks great. There are so many ways and pros and cons on building. My cabin is up off the ground as well. I did crawl under and plywood the underside to keep out any rodents. I have had it 13 years and (knock on wood) have not had a mouse yet.
I'm hoping to get by as is but if not I'll add some boards. Some people swear by this method. Time will tell.
Yes the will chew on the foam!!I I learned this the hard way too!! Nice job!! Looks great
I was worried about that. A year in to it and so far so good.
@@TRERUNSWILD just keep poison under your floors, keep them under control! Once they start making nests , they will chew the foam and even make tunnels ,
I know its a matter of time. The fact that there is no food and it;'s not heated has probably helpsed so far.
@@TRERUNSWILD yes 👍 , you have really nice place !!! I live on a farm in Wisconsin, my wife and I live in the woods too , not a cabin it’s a house , we love it !!
Thank you!
I would: install your strapping deep enough down so 1/4 plywood (treated)goes in first j. Secure at outside edges with caulking. Then install insulation board or pink? Should be fairly rodent proof. Watch out for knots… B Deacon ManItoba 🇨🇦 Canada
I had considered that. In hindsight I should have just spent the extra money and done that.
Skirt it with bubble foil on the under side. No mice. And put it on the skirted walls. It's cheaper and it works. Mice out in the woods all over.
That's what the boss did and he had tons of mice under the cabin. I'm not convinced it would make much difference for the expense.
Lol, Terry I learn a lot from your mistakes ! LOL
Looks great , your doing a fine job!
Thanks 👍
Always excited to see a new video posted Terry!! I really enjoy learning with you and following your journey. Until next time❤
I dont know skirting really blocks that cold wind underneath and seems to keep it a little warmer. I did mine this summer, we've had some really cold days I think it makes a big difference.
Thanks jason! I'm glad to have ya!
I don't doubt it might. The snow will probably do the same thing when it falls off the roof. Maybe?
Hello… fun to watch.. not sure if mentioned but you need to cover your blocks… snow rain ice will fill the holes and freeze…snap crackle and pop… you may lose your outside blocks…simple and easy… aluminum cookie sheets…upside down of course… being a contractor from northern Maine the stories I could tell… all the woods animals will want to crawl under your building and winter… simple solution… roll up chicken wire and stuff it all around just under the edges… an unwanted skunk will render your cabin useless… good luck… it was -2* here yesterday 😳😩
Your comment is perfectly timed! I was just wondering yesterday if water would puddle in there and freeze! I had noticed a bit of snow had fallen in the openings since they stick out from the beam edges. So you gave me confirmation that I will need to address that! Thank you!
Curious, are you saying instead of skirting, wrap chicken wire all the way around the foundation? How do you secure it to the ground?
I'm with you on not putting skirting on and my cabin is 18" above ground and for the last 3 years I have never had a problem but I also have treated plywood with 6" air space with fiberglass insulation.
I went back and forth on that same idea. Hoping mine holds up.
Very fun to watch your bunkhouse project!! Learn as you go & you don’t know until you just do it. Glad you got some nice weather temporarily to continue progress!!
the weather has been SO amazing! 40 in December? I'll take it all day long!
Looks Awesome! I haven’t been able to make it to the Mistress in awhile. Ignore the naysayers and have fun
For sure! I'm too old to worry about what others think of me!
Great work! Tedious work may be satisfying when finished and looking good but always upset me when working on my cabin with limited weekend days and being two hours from home!
I hear ya! I went through the same thing. Now that I'm retired I seem to be more patient knowing there isn't a deadline.
The flooring sheets are 1/4th inch short to allow a 1/8th inch gap on each side (the width of a 16d nail) to allow for expansion of the wood chips over time. Most strandboard has a wax film on it that allows up to 9 months of weather exposure (if you don't walk on it). But this coating will make any stain or sealant applied very patchy.
That is good to know. Now I'm glad I didn't waste my time trying to seal it.
The video is very good and I learned a lot. Thanks.😊
Glad it was helpful!
Canadian here, Built many cabins over the years tried all the methods mice won every time, for a warm floor on blocks is insulated skirting none in the floor seems to work the best put plastic on the ground Good luck enjoy your videos
I may end up doing that in the end. Or just let the snow pile up to create a wind brake.
@@TRERUNSWILD What you did will work great for warmth insulated skirting is better if you are going to run drain pipes in the crawlspace I'm 70 still learning keep life fun enjoy your videos 😊
I may end up adding skirting eventually. I'll probably change my mind 10 times.
Another enjoyable video Terry. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching Scott. Hope all is well with you!
If you read the tarp package the ACTUAL is always smaller than what it says on the big print on the front. Tongue and groove plywood is the same way. It starts off as 4 x 8 sheet then they mill the tongue and groove off it. You should read ALL the fine print.
Lesson learned that's for sure! Seems counter intuitive that the big bold description isn't accurate but I suppose it's marketing or something. Definitely would be easier to just be able to take stuff at face value. Now I know!
You can use the insulation nails with the cap heads and nail strips of hardware cloth to the underside of the insulation to prevent rodent intrusion. The mice and rats will try to chew through the insulation but the hardware cloth prevents intrusion. Worked for me.
I looked into the hardware cloth and it was wicked expensive and the sizes were only 3' at my HD. Maybe I should have looked around more?
@@TRERUNSWILD yeah. I imagine the costs have soared. I think I was paying around $40 a roll. I think I used the 3 foot and stapled it with a bit of overlap.
Great video. i Love watching your videos and your attention to all of the details. your bunkhouse is looking Awesome! the jig the you made for the strapping to hold the insulation is a Wicked Awesome idea. just to let you know. on tongue and groove 4 by 8 sheet goods, the tongue is including on the 4 feet. you are Very right on using nails and glue on your floor, the nails hold the 4 x 8 sheets to the floor joists while the glue cures. :)
That's good to know! Even with the tongue I ended up short and my dimensions were on par. I wonder if I didn't leave a big enough gap for expansion?
@@TRERUNSWILDwhen we built our house back in 1996 we ran into same issue. Came up 2.5" short across the house. Used strip of tongue and groove hardwood flooring to finish it off. The tongue is the issue. That's 3/16 or more per sheet lost. Didn't know that then but haven't forgotten that hard lesson 😮
That has to be SO hard to plan for when building a big house? If I would have known that I would end up nailing OSB to the edges I woul dhave just used OSB on the whole works!
Loving your channel sir....❤❤.. I'm building a hunt cabin now in northern Ontario... love this warmer season so far.. I'm trying the reflectex floor this one, so I will skirt.. like that boss of the swamp guy promotes.. have a blessed day.
It seems it a 50/50 whether folks like the bubble foil. Let me know what you think when it's done. I can always add underneath if it's worth it.
❤😊❤😊❤😊. Good job!!!!
Thank you! 😄
@@TRERUNSWILD 😊
The way you're going seems excellent so instead of squirting tight just make wind blocks to keep it from whipping under your cabin
What is a wind block? I’m very interested!
Sweet! I have to give you an A+ on your project so far and this video. I enjoyed it all. Those night sky shots you throw in are the best. Favorite quote "good talk, good talk". Already looking forward to your next video. Thanks for taking us along. God bless!
Awesome, thank you!
Love your channel. You’re a funny humble guy & when you have those oh shit moments it really makes me laugh, and I’d say with the attitude you’ve got you always seem too make it through it. You’re really not any different than most of us, just a better attitude than myself when I screw shit up! lol
Looking forward to your next video Terry!!!
I'm glad you're enjoying the content! There is no way I could even fake it if I tried!
Looking great thanks for sharing 🎉🎉😅
Hey Kyle, Thanks for swinging in!
Mornin 🖐😎👍
Hey Bud!
pink formular is R5 per inch, vs white EPS that you're using is around R4 per inch.
Geez, I just left HD and you are 100% correct. I'm not sure what I was talking about in the video since i compared the two products side by side in the store. I think maybe I was considering price to R value? I can't remember what sold me on the Rtech over pink. Maybe price was my decision factor compared to extra R-value? IDK. Thanks for pointing that out. People read comments and it will be good for them to see this for accuracy.
Cracking vlog, Tre. It's great to see the launch of a new major project. I'm watching from my hotel room at London Heathrow with a good coffee from a fancy machine. (Nespresso). Fight is 1:30pm GMT - 10hr duration. Thick frost on the cars yesterday morning in my neighborhood, cold in London this morning too. It's going to be 62f when i land in NOLA today. NOLA today 75f/62f and rain. The warm weather will be appreciated! Be well and stay safe. Puck.
It's been unseasonably warm up here so far this year but 75 sounds AMAZING! Welcome home bud!
@TRERUNSWILD just arrived at home. It's 70f, foggy, rainy and humidity in NOLA tonight. Warmth! Love it. Thanks brother, Great to be home.
The water in the Thomson will be fine I would cell the hell out that O S B or you will hate your self down the road when you do have a water leak and you will have one. I m 63 and know what I'm talking about. Have a nice day.
I appreciate the advice.
Looking good, let’s get this build started! 💪
Half done with the walls as we speak.
@@TRERUNSWILD awesome 👏
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother
Hi Earl! Good to see ya!
Hi my friend outstanding video
First time coming across your site and just subscribed. Keep em coming
Thank you JB! Welcome!
OBSERVATION the reason why the sandwich method is better in regards to insulating is that theres no insulating loss or heat loss through the wood joists where as when you cut the panels, heat loss occurs through the floor joists or in otherwords, where the panels arent. I came across this information and study when wanting to insulate my crawl space
I was wondering about that. Makes sense.
Good afternoon Terry! So nice to see the bunkhouse coming along! I give you credit for working in Northern Mn. outside at this time of year. 😊🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s
It's been so nice this year! I might change my mind when real winter hits!
Looking great
Thanks Larry!
I'm from Robbinsdsle, th r shirt in is need to keep it from the cold and amials. All my parents cabins near Crosbe we had skirting from the animals. I dont miss the cold here in Fl.
I like that Crosby area. Such cool little towns, that and Ironton. I wish I was in Florida! I'm hoping the floor is high enough up off the ground that it won't be as attractive to animals? Hoping........
great video terry! rock on
Hi Steve!
Awesome video Terry!! The bunkhouse floor really looks good. I’m looking forward to seeing it come together. Really enjoyed the video looking forward to the next one. Be safe take care buddy.
Thanks my friend. Hope all is well on your end!
I didn't know ryobi made a framing nailer. I have mostly ryobi stuff but I caved and bought thr Milwaukee framing nailer. It works awesome but man it was expensive.
Tounge and groove is annoying since the tounge is part of the 4ft. I just balance the shortcomings on each side and fill the gap with foam once I have the wall plates down.
I got mine at HD. Works great when I use the right nails.
I built many houses, and cabins and the only thing I would do different than what you did, I would have put treated plywood down, even 1/4” plywood before you put the insulation down. Either way what you’re doing looks great !!
I had considered that. I may regret not doing it. One reason I put it up at that height was to be able to get underneath it. I might end up nailing from below if I start to see issues.
You could "paint" the bottom of the cabin with roof coating (liquid tar) that may deter the rodents and insects.
I had not thought of that! That is an excellent idea.
@@TRERUNSWILD But wait there's more! It could also serve as a moisture barrier from the ground below to prevent the bottom from rotting. 🙂
True!
The framing nailer makes all the difference doesn't it? Can you imagine driving all those by hand!
It's awesome! I love it! Plus all the bent nails I ruin trying to hand drive. And black finger nails.
Excellent work Terry love it so far see you on the next one have a great week here from Ontario Canada ❤️❤️❤️❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦😎 p.s. I shared this video on Facebook publicly so maybe you will get more subscribers that would be helpful for you……
Cool! I appreciate you always looking out for us!
I built a 16 x 50 a few years ago the same way, furrowing strips holding up 2 inch insulation. No rodent issues and the floor is warm. My cabin has bubble foil on half of the floor, there's a huge difference in where it is and isnt. Either way works well.
Huge difference which way? Better with foam or better with buble foil?
Honestly they are about the same, foam vs bubble foil.
I bought this place with a small 10 x 20 cabin on it, floor isnt insulated and I cant get under it. I added on and that part has the bubble foil on the floor joists. @@TRERUNSWILD
The foil back i think will work as i heard mice hate it and wont bite through it as they are hemophiliacs and stay away from it in fear of cutting themselves. That’s also why the bubble wrap works for boss of the swamp.
If that is true I should be good then since my foam board is foil backed.
12 x 16 cut finished slightly smaller on tarp
ok that makes sense.
Put foil-backed bubble wrap under the styrofoam, it’s cheap and provides a moisture barrier.
I might end up doing that. I should have enough room to crawl under there.
The sheets of flooring are 4x8 and then they cut the tounge and groove in them. This causes the sheets to be about 1/3 narrower than the 4 feet.
Oh! makes sense but sure make sit hard to plan?
I would think the foil side should go up to reflect heat back into the cabin.
My understanding (probably wrong) Is that foil is a radiant barrier and needs an airspace or is useless. So if an airspace then yes, face heat back into house. If no space, then face cold back into ground. Plus the foil might be rodent and insect barrier? I probably should have set it into the joist another inch and faced the foil into the cabin?
Tarps have folded edges, the measure is the full size of the tarp before they are folded over and sewn...
I never knew that! I'll plan accordingly next time.
Since we had snow 3 to 4 feet deep last winter in Lake county skirting would not do much
I was kind of thinking the same thing. It falling off the roof would build up and make natural skirting.
I think the tarp measurements are pre sewn.
That would make sense!
I used OSB In my basement I pant my Alexa lot better Fights against the moisture When you look at It might be a sealed side The rough side is not sealed The smooth siders is That's how it is in Michigan
That makes sense with the different textures.
I think if you could have done it different you could have just attached a sill plate around the top edge of the floor and laid the foam board, then subfloor on top of that, trim off two edges and done Not sure what your build on the inside is going to be but if you're not going to have any load bearing walls it would have been much less work and less little gaps in the foam board and floor joists. Just a thought.
Yeah, that may have worked and that would have gotten around trying to nail through the foam into the joist. Wish I would have thought of it.
@TRERUNSWILD next time perhaps
When I was researching I read the comments on channels. So I think people will see your comment. Maybe I'll do a "I learned" clip to share ideas of what could have gone better.
Good video brother I just seen this do you like that Ryobi nail gun and if so does it shoot pretty good and I got another question for you you do you know of any extra land up there kind of cheap brother that's what I like to do get up there and build me a nice little cabin please let me know I appreciate you thank you sir
I do like the gun. A little heavy but it will run all day on a battery with casual use.
A good website for land is landwatch.com. As far as cheap that is very subjective compared to what you want. I think compared to southern states we are generally way cheaper than stuff I see advertised
@@TRERUNSWILD sweeeeeett thanks
How's that framing nailer? I lost patience waiting for the Ryobi and ended up getting a Ridgid. The Ridgid is a GREAT nailer, but now I have two different battery platforms. Glad Ryobi finally made one.
I've run about 1500 nails through so far and no issues after I figured out the old box of nails I got at the thrift store were too corroded to use. New nails and she runs like a top.
@@TRERUNSWILD Awesome! Good to know. I'll be watching the progress on the bunk house.
Now that you have is every 14 1/2" you have is cold spot of 1 1/2 that makes your R value go down!!
I'll probably need some rugs
Nice work, Who makes that buffalo plaid jacket you're wearing? Thanks
I'm not sure if you are referring to the red and black or the green horse blanket looking one but I got them both at Costco for super cheap. And they are wool or a blend at least.
How do you know how to do all that wood working stuff? Do you study before hand? Just curious. River is TOTALLY beautiful. He is so sweet.you should absolutely do a few “ shorts “ of him now and then. I live in Mounds View, Mn. , but I know that Northern Mn. Is gorgeous all year long. Love your videos. ❤️✌🏻. PS you’re cute.🤷♀️
LOL! I've been learning as I go. Hence all the mistakes! I should do a few on River! That's a great idea!
Not adding a poly layer becsuse the foam is moisture resistant?! What about the wood and subfloor attached to it?
What you have is better than nothing, but filling the joist cavities full to get R-23 plus a notyom vapor barrier woild have done wonders for warmth, wood longevity and critter control. Maybe even less work than installkng all those 2x2 rails and cutting the foam...
You’re not wrong. In hindsight I should have at least thrown poly under the sub floor.
A lot of people use foil lined bubble insulation on the floor. Suposed to be mouse risistant.
I was looking for something with some insulating quality. Bubble foil is radiant and doesn't have any R-value. I opted for foil backed foam so hoping for the best of both worlds?
hello my friend I have seen others use some type of metal from tin roofing to diamond plate under the cabin floor to prevent rodents etc from accessing the cabin of course it depends on the budget just curious if you have heard or seen of this?
I have seen wood. I might end up doing that if I have issues.
Love the video. Quick question for you. Looks like your building is 12' wide. What made you decide to run 3 skids instead of 2 skids and larger floor joists? Not being critical just asking the thought process? Thanks!
It may have just been inexperience? I looked at joist tables and just liked the lightness and cheapness of 2x6 instead of 2x10 or 2x8 joists. If I ever put something heavy in there like a rock wall behind a heavy wood stove i wanted to be confident it wouldn't sag over time.
Put plastic underlayment down, are you using pressure treated wood
The beams are ground treated but not the rest. I'm 18" above grade so should be good. I was wondering if a layer of poly would help.
Man, people have nailed entire houses for years, and they are fine. How do you like that ryobi nail gun I have been looking into getting one.
So far so good. Obviously I'm no carpenter but once I put the correct nails in it it hasn't had one issue. Battery seems to keep up for casual work,.
Making good progress Terry! I don’t recall if you mentioned installing a wood stove in this building. Do you still have that original wood stove that was missing some parts? If so, you could get that up and running. Keep on grinding away.
I still have an old stove but I'm not sure if I will put in in there. the space is so small it might not be a good use. I'm considering a diesel heater but haven't decided yet.
If you set your furring strips 1/2 inch lower you could have put 1/2 inch sheeting first then foam would make s solid barrier
That would mean twice as many measurements, twice as much cutting, more recharging of the batteries, and double the cost of the OSB. You would also lose the moisture barrier and sacrifice all that bottom sheeting.
@@XtremeChiliPepper but no critters
@@XtremeChiliPepper same thing as the sandwich he talked about but under the deck instead of on top
I had thought about that. Some people say this works for them. If not.....I'll be nailing from the bottom..ugh
They can chew the foam but can't nest in it. I was nervous they would exploit any crack and now have a cavity to burrow out.
Dont skirt it. Theres no point because you insulated the floor. Theres no benefit to it. Also when you do the siding run it down to just below the rim joist. Your subfloor pannels are a bit short because they are suposto have a 1/8in gap all the way around.
Thanks for this tip. I saw it earlier and changed the way I was attaching the OSB walls. It was helpful!
Hello Tre, been awhile since I’ve commented but still enjoy your posts. I’ve got a quick question what brand is your chainsaw mill and is it a good choice? Thanks
I use Stihl saws. Love them.
I use to use Echo, they worked well for me. What I was interested in was the brand of the mill you use. I have a few logs that I’d like to plank out and was looking for a mill since the local sawmills want 300+ a log.
Gotcha! I have a Granberg Alaskan mill? I got it a few years ago from Northern Tool and paid about $125-150 for it. I only have a 18 inch bar so it was the only one that fit my saw. I'd prefer a bigger one that attaches at the front of the bar as well. Mine can cut at an angle sometimes and the front attachment would keep it level.
OK I was looking at a Carmyra, they seem to be affordable. Thanks for your insight. Enjoy your cold weather. I headed south for the winter but miss the less congested north. BTW nice deer.
Your sheets of ply are square , so you can tell as soon as you start sheathing you will know if you are square. Also when your diagonal measure is 1/8 " of that means you are only 1/16" out of square which is fine.1/16" only matters in finish work and you are building a piano.😢
that's good to know about the 1/8 1/16! My math/geometry skills are pretty horrible. Getting square is always an issue for me.
Ok why didn`t you offset the laddering you put in, offset by 2 inches would work just as well and go straight in verse toe nailing.
The truth is. I didn't know any better. In the end it will be the same for strength. but you are right. I would off set them them next time because it would be easier for nailing.
Why did you build a bunkhouse instead of putting an addition on your cabin. You will need a lot more firewood to heat 2 buildings. Looking good so far.
I wanted a separate space for guests. It will be used infrequently so shouldn’t be an issue for heat. I might even put in a diesel heater or propane?
I hear Diesel heater is great!
I have one in my van and love it.
@@TRERUNSWILDoh nice!!
That foam insulation ain’t cheap.
No sir. Nothing is these days it seems.
Same happened to me sheets a wrong .mike Scotland
Hey Mike! You came a long way to hang out with us! Thanks!
@TRERUNSWILD worth it tho I'm just about to insulate my floor on the whiskey trail Scotland...we are blessed ...thanx for the no shit info .
You’re very welcome!
What was the dimension of your bunkhouse? Looking at trying to build something similar
It is 12x16. I wish I had either gone with a 6/12 roof or made knee walls and had a mucher higher loft. 8/12 pitch is kind of useless and will just make the heat rise in the winter.
I dont really follow but could u usa longer screws
With 3/4 sub floor, 1.5 inch foam and 1/4 sheeting I'd need I'd need 5 " screws. They are hard to find and super expensive. Plus I'd have to hand screw instead of nail.
You only put poly on the warm side
I appreciate your comment but I'm not sure what you are referring to? The poly boards being upside down?
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Vapour barrier tip
Gotcha!
really that's it
yes
Yes hardware cloth is expensive however, it will keep rodents out and for your future it is a good idea. Remember you are keeping rodents out of your cabin from the ground out. Trust me, they will eat the foam.
I wish you were wrong but I'm afraid you will be right.
The tarp sizes are rough size the finished size is slightly smaller
I never knew that!
@@TRERUNSWILD I got burned before that’s how I found out. I’m in northern Minnesota myself just off hwy 53 25 miles northwest of Duluth
Maybe I missed it, do you plan to keep building during the winter?
Yes. That is the plan. the idea was a winter project when there wasn't much else to do. Once it's dried in I can put in a heater and work away.
r6 is not enough insulation
I think it should alright. I have about R-3 now and it's doable. Still gonna need slippers probably?
What size is this
It is 12x16
He said it at least three times in the video.
I’m not 2 mins in the video and already see and handful of problems
Hey BA. Thanks for chiming in. Like i said in the video learning what NOT to do is as valuable for beginners like me as WHAT TO do. You probably didn't want to get into it and seem like you were just negative but constructive criticism is very valuable for myself and others who will read the comments. Sharing your knowledge and experience is helpful for us who have none. So please, feel free to offer advice it would be appreciated.
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Terry, where do I send your Christmas card? I have slouthed a bit looking for your address--can't find it. We got our first significant snow last night. I was wondering if you will get the bunkhouse dried in before it snows. 🤔☃❄🏂🎄
Hi Trudee. If you send me an email I will respond with an address you can send it. travdogger@hotmail.com