Mini-Splits Made For Mobile Homes! Part #1

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  • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
    @JimAlderson-cn6ek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn brother u no how many times iv said that don't sound good before u do good hvac tec knows how stuf should sound love watching ur videos started out over 3 decades ok working for mobile home sales company never a dull moment 👍 went to a carier company from there guess wat never a dull moment lov u brother keep up the good work

  • @michaellow5448
    @michaellow5448 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are a very determined man. As a retired HVACR mechanic I can still get itchy just by looking at yellow fiberglass insulation. Don’t breathe too much of that crap. Keep up the great work

  • @andygulick6085
    @andygulick6085 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Shouldn't be to bad" Curtis says as he is laying on his back under a trailer. Your a trooper, going the extra mile for sure....

  • @deweydodo6691
    @deweydodo6691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That blower motor noise would drive me nuts.

  • @Wayman_Simmang
    @Wayman_Simmang ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Curtis you need a chiropractor to go with you on these trailer jobs.. lol

  • @sweetmeatmonty9011
    @sweetmeatmonty9011 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Quote of the year. "Sounds like a jet landingggg-HVAC GUY" 😂😂😂 That made my day, thank you sir!!! Thats a project but you got this!!!

  • @IesKorpershoek
    @IesKorpershoek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a mini-split with 4 indoor units, heating and cooling my 2-story house. Very happy.

  • @jenko701
    @jenko701 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No substitute for a quality flair tool . I was hard headed for a wile .

  • @theabsentmindedprofessor8357
    @theabsentmindedprofessor8357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen to those cicadas, wow brings back fond memories on the lake as a kid waking up in a tent, to those them.

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Didn’t realize they made a Min8-Split for a Manufactured Home. 🤔👍

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If it’s cheap, small enough to be hidden under floor or in an 18.5” wide closet, lacks performance, has a no name branding, you can bet mobile home manufacturers will use them.

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These pieces-o-junk haven’t made it from Ga to Ky yet. I can guarantee you, I’m not taking any calls on them.

  • @search_eternal
    @search_eternal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I put one of those air handlers in back in march. They have a built in condensate pump.

  • @jw3843
    @jw3843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am glad I do not have to work on those. I have never liked the mini splits just because they are hard to get access to things and everything tends to be really tight. Once I found a goodman mini split board fried by a frog. Frog was cooked but took the board with it.

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first mini split was a Goodman in 2002. Nothing but problems! Ended up installed standard 1.5 ton split in 2006 at cost! I told myself that I would never sell another one until 2022, when I installed a Fujitsu. So far so good but believe me, I won’t be putting in very many of them. I will not work on anyone else’s, especially if they’re DIY’er.

  • @hinspect
    @hinspect ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A good time to buy a few shares in Nylog!😂
    (Good Stuff!)👍

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      Good time to buy a good tool and make good flares, then pressure test to max allowed by mfr, using a little oil on both sides of the flare. Antisieze on nut. I’ve never had a leak in 25 years.

  • @garrettmandujano2996
    @garrettmandujano2996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the second unit, it would be the one on the opposite side of the trailer. It’s like if something has to go wrong, it’s usually really wrong

  • @joshuaseaton4526
    @joshuaseaton4526 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Curtis, that is just a basic concealed ducted unit that can be used on anything. Read up on Mitsu, Daikin, Samsung, Fujitsu stuff, etc... They all have them. Just little slim fan coils is all they are.

  • @HVACingMyWay
    @HVACingMyWay ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ultrasonic leak detectors are the best in my opinion. I have the inficon whisper and it has never failed me. I use it to check for gas leaks and everything

    • @sprockkets
      @sprockkets ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine couldn't find jack squat....

  • @markdial9785
    @markdial9785 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The MPN ducted mini splits they put in Legacy homes are a disaster. Make sure the t-stat has the "follow me" button pressed or the air handler ignores it. Check the returns too. I've had 5 homes with very restricted returns or returns not attached to the air handler. Also had one that was installed backwards, and another with a chunk of subfloor blocking the supply.

    • @adamswendsen2494
      @adamswendsen2494 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was going to mention that, about the follow me setting. Otherwise I believe the set point is controlled by a sensor at the indoor unit. And in follow me mode it will display indoor temp along with set point on the stat.

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a difficult job Curtis, i look forward to the flare joint repairs tomorrow 😀 Au

  • @jaymz0074
    @jaymz0074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mind blowing that the manufacturer allows such an install and then to have to compromise the insulation belly is nuts.

  • @jthonn
    @jthonn ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good video, soon as you discovered the leaks, seems like almost all the flare joints were leaking. Pain crawling like that, I might surprise myself, but I don't think I could do that anymore.

  • @thesilentonevictor
    @thesilentonevictor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We call these fan coil just like the ones on the chill water system good luck Curtis bad motors a common

  • @JoeCdaYT
    @JoeCdaYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the first system that the pressures improved when you opened the access panel I would say the problem is the duct work. Open it up along with replacing the motor and drive. I have experienced the same effect with just hearing the hiss and using my hands to cover the area to find exactly where it is. Though there are times when you can hear it but can't lay hands on it and that is where our fun tools come into play. I would say for those systems who ever installed them was the hired off the street and shown how to install in one day then let loose with the tools. I used to work for a company that did that and now they are headed down a road that I am no longer part of. Lets just say they may be loosing EPA for sure in the end. Something to do with just opening systems to atmosphere and replacing components. No recovery equipment on their vans. Just tanks of refrigerant, gauges and a vacuum pump. I am talking about systems that hold 12 lbs of r410, r22, r404, r448, r449 you name it. I even worked on some of the systems installed by previous so called techs that put in a cooler coil with no metering cartridge in the Sporlan TXV and overcharged to make it work. I am glad to be away from that company now.

  • @Browner19
    @Browner19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the cicada you picked up under the trailer 😂. I actually have one

  • @Daluke61
    @Daluke61 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 2:57, the sound that can be heard coming through the return register is so similar to a jet gas turbine engine spooling up during startup. I like the sound though it likely drives whoever lives there a little nutty. Love all the content you're putting out, Curtis. No pro here, just a DIY'er who loves this HVAC stuff, especially what's presented on this channel!

  • @kg4muc
    @kg4muc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d find some way to plumb those air handlers topside if I owned that unit. Manufactured housing is definitely a leader in stupid hvac ideas lol. Glad all I had to deal with back in my days were exploding oil furnaces and typical split system problems

  • @MrFlaco702
    @MrFlaco702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds to me like it needs bigger return or cut more for better airflow good video

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      You thought a 4 x 13 beer can aluminum supply truck was bad. They’re using the same beer can to make the return trunk now.

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, but that may cost too much money and take up too much space.

  • @38mullet
    @38mullet ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow crazy what you go thru

  • @christopherdelon3026
    @christopherdelon3026 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is going to suck changing that blower motor

  • @ClippyC
    @ClippyC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you just say - it shouldn't be that hard? lol

  • @gordonpotts753
    @gordonpotts753 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I,ve had good success reflaring the copper and spreading a light film of leak lock on the flare fittings as I assemble them.

  • @Chief351L
    @Chief351L 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Word of advice on these MiniSplit valves, you can’t beat on them and crank on them like this. They are really easy to damage and cause leaks.

  • @RobertWelch-fs2fv
    @RobertWelch-fs2fv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curtis ! Great channel * enjoy your videos 👍👍👍👍👍🇱🇷🇮🇪🦉Boston wise guy up in massachusetts

  • @vincentgelles3805
    @vincentgelles3805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big Blu is the best option in that situation. Ultrasonic could have stayed in the truck.

  • @Wolfhound.
    @Wolfhound. ปีที่แล้ว

    cant count how many of them sealed insulated under bellies i have had to cut cause they cause moisture to trap in and it fills up like a pool and molds the entire trailer if you do not cut it open

  • @giovanycardenas8842
    @giovanycardenas8842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible work Curtis 👏

  • @chriseh09
    @chriseh09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta love that South Georgia engineering!😂😂😂

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mobile home engineering

    • @chriseh09
      @chriseh09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity been doing mobile homes for over thirty years and I’ve never seen that before!!

  • @RobertDickens2002
    @RobertDickens2002 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're better than me id be like sorry i dont mess with those.

  • @JimAlderson-cn6ek
    @JimAlderson-cn6ek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sory had to ad and know this is from wile back but man thats like wat they put in recreation vehicles Krazy stuff feel for ya

  • @gordonpotts753
    @gordonpotts753 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mini splits r notorious leakers. Especially on the field flares.

  • @jamesfitzsimmons381
    @jamesfitzsimmons381 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wear your mask while you’re under there

  • @TheDeafMechanic
    @TheDeafMechanic ปีที่แล้ว

    Worked on one like this once except I couldn’t get under the mobile home hardly lol. It had washed out and was super tight under there.

  • @redneckways1617
    @redneckways1617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off it’s a mini split system therefore there’s a evap coil sensor per evaporator…one charge for the complete system…the higher the temp the higher the pressure…but you have to get circuit # 1 right before you can work on #2

  • @RayRay-nb7tn
    @RayRay-nb7tn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curtis is there any reason why you don't use bubbles to test for leaks? Just wondering cuz it seems ya sometimes have a malfunction on the sensor on the electricity detector. Not trying to be smart just a common question. I would think you would suggest changing all the flares on all ends of the copper, cond n evap? Will stay tuned to see the rest tomorrow.

  • @aberobinson1
    @aberobinson1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok so pretty much this is the way I see it with trailers... the manufacturer of the trailer wants to make that profit off of that minisplit instead of the local company that sets up the trailer. Up until recently, the trailer would leave the factory with the usual Revolv air handler and ductwork installed. Some were upflow and some were downflow just depending on how nice of a trailer it is. The company that sets up the mobile home usually has a local HVAC contractor that they work with. That contractor would install a Mortex coil in the air handler and usually an ICP heat pump outside. Now the manufacturers like Fleetwood and Clayton want to keep all that money in-house by shipping out the trailer with their mini split that they install. Like every other builder, they buy the lowest grade no-name products that look shiny and fancy. Honestly the Revolv air handler was a really good value. It has a regular PSC motor and is simple.
    Legacy homes is pre-installing the whole traditional hvac system at the factory. The metal framework for the trailer comes out at one end and there is a platform that a Goodman condensor sits on.
    Warren Buffett owns at least 50 percent of everything involved in the mobile home business, maybe more.
    The entire town of Douglas, Georgia lives off of the mobile home business.

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      E Ky is full to brim with them. Banks love them too. Pure junk. 4”x13”, undersized, uninsulated, unsealed ductwork. Once those pos hit here, I will not take any calls with them. The standard setup is bad enough, but at least I carry repair parts or can get them in a day or three.

  • @jamierushing
    @jamierushing ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi bro from west Alabama

  • @todddejong4817
    @todddejong4817 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would it all the sudden start leaking there. Wouldn't it be leaking from the start.

  • @Adam90028
    @Adam90028 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why would they install it so whoever has to service the evaporator has to get insulation in their lungs and face? Smh

  • @carlseiz1266
    @carlseiz1266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All places why under the house they couldn't have found a better place to put it i guess they think o it will never break down i know i couldn't work in that kind of space

  • @sharmanbutler5429
    @sharmanbutler5429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG no way i could crawl under there.

  • @Paulie1232
    @Paulie1232 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mini-splits are good units until they break down 😢

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      I washed my last mini (other than my own installs) a month ago. Finished cleaning, threw a communication error code. Three more “free” hours drying everything. No moisture in main board compartment. Never again.

    • @CT-vm4gf
      @CT-vm4gf ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn’t everything.

    • @tonyrhoton6613
      @tonyrhoton6613 ปีที่แล้ว

      I give up on minisplits back in 2010 they were way worse than and still r cheap made no money in them if they last 5yrs ur lucky

  • @ClippyC
    @ClippyC ปีที่แล้ว

    When you have inverter systems like this, can you use pressure values the same way as a system with a piston or txv?

    • @davidb2438
      @davidb2438 ปีที่แล้ว

      Minisplit inverter systems modulate to keep SH very low, 3 degree range, that’s why they able to get SEERs in 20 range

  • @karellodewijks4971
    @karellodewijks4971 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😊😊👍👍

  • @3cats932
    @3cats932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fiber glass alert 😢 my throat is itchy as well

  • @josephkey7935
    @josephkey7935 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They are good until you have to clean them & service them.

  • @Browner19
    @Browner19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That condensate pump line being restricted to 1/2 pex which is actual only 3/8 ID, js not good for the pump

  • @chuckstillwell9549
    @chuckstillwell9549 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow

  • @gabrielstern4992
    @gabrielstern4992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nnp never heard of it.
    I know diakin has vrv life and and Cooper and hunter has a system that can have a separate head and a central air handler.
    But honestly Curtis for this custumer a Mr cool mini split installed correctly by you and vacuaned by a pro like you
    or a gree flex sized properly by you and mounted on the same bracket they already have would be more appropriate
    VS whatever brand they currently have.
    Ohh and Curtis thier are now some other manufactures trying to make diy mini splits that are manufactured poorly besides Mr cool.
    And telling people you don't need to flush the linesets are vacuam either.
    And one guy tried to tell me with Mr cool vacauming a quick connect line set voids the manufactures warrenty.
    Again not true it's just common sense to do a leak pressure test without soapy water and vacuam it and make sure it holds.

  • @kenthomas4668
    @kenthomas4668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used that ultrasonic leak detector to find a leak in my inflatable kayak. It was up in the bow under a piece of fabric. That was the only way to find it. I thought of adding a little r22 and use the sniffer.

    • @HVACGUY
      @HVACGUY  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That thing was perfect for this application

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That noise is ridiculous.

  • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
    @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why am I not surprised when mobile home manufacturers choose another cheap junk system with poor performance, reliability, lifespan and repairability? How about they just install the proper ductwork with a name brand piece of equipment, in a large enough closet INSIDE the home, repairable using common parts on a service truck and with a 10 yr parts warranty? “Low Airflow”…yeah about 100% of the time with 4 x 13 beer can trunks.

  • @robertgonzalez7387
    @robertgonzalez7387 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old pancake unit don't hang it upside down

  • @erickwardwell962
    @erickwardwell962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No. No way.

  • @gabrielstern4992
    @gabrielstern4992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess the crappy mini split bandit installer strikes again.
    Wonder if on. The second one if it was even vacuaned.
    With that leak and who the heck covers up an air hander with kraft paper faced insulation.
    In Pennsylvania that's a code violation and a no no.
    I don't know about Georgia if its the same.
    And I don't like that in the second one the guy could not even properly secure the outer covering and leaving that bird nest.
    But I know you will make it right.
    But I still standby Curtis the gree flex bieng a more appropriate option installed by you.
    Since you have road tested them. Yourself.

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the typical mobile home woven plastic vapor barrier.

    • @gabrielstern4992
      @gabrielstern4992 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity yes but you should not cover and wrap the whole air handler in insulation especially kraft faced stuff that's a fire Hazzard with the electrical wiring and can cutoff adaqaute air flow.
      But maybe I am wrong and it's a southern thing. But to me it should have been mounted properly on a air handler stand or had a proper plenum box built to mount the air handler on and just insulated the stud walla behind properly and put high density polyiso over the insulation instead of drywall.
      Makes much easier acess for an hvac guy. And looks more proper and professional and meets codes.

  • @billkunert7281
    @billkunert7281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would anybody order, or buy, a mobile home with the air handler installed under the floor instead of in a closet. Cutting the plastic wrap below the insulation will be a real problem because duct tape won't stay stuck to it for long when you try to seal it up again.

  • @georgesummerlin1602
    @georgesummerlin1602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wtf put that in that mobile home and why

  • @scottclark2413
    @scottclark2413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless you're doing warranty work here, walk away. What a mess

  • @DabblelyDiddly
    @DabblelyDiddly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mobile homes and ducted systems man... i dont freaking get why they bother its always a damn mess and never works right. and this is the most convoluted setup ive ever seen.

  • @tonyrhoton6613
    @tonyrhoton6613 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id walk away dont need money that bad

  • @brad6566
    @brad6566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't watch as soon as you said mini split. Sorry

  • @robbiebennett8185
    @robbiebennett8185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy how much trouble it is to work on those.

  • @MAGAMAN
    @MAGAMAN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking about getting a mini-split to cool my office separately from the rest of the house because all my computers generate a ton of heat. After seeing this, maybe I don't want one

    • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
      @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity ปีที่แล้ว

      Avoid them like the plague! Just run another floor supply and ceiling or high sidewall return (pulls off the convective heat better) from main system.

    • @charlesmalinoski6325
      @charlesmalinoski6325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just for your office. I'd just put in a Ductless Mini Split,for that one. Piece of cake. I have one /1 Ton for my whole upstairs in my home. Two bedrooms & Office. No problems,ever yet. 5yrs. Old system.

  • @robertwojtowicz933
    @robertwojtowicz933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much did you pay for your ultrasonic detector?