I gotta respect Bink for the position he’s taking. The era that most hip hop heads miss that had great music was because of producers and beatmakers of this caliber. Creating your OWN sound and expression, separating yourself is what pushed the music forward. In a world where copying is overlooked and tolerated cause everybody just wants the bag, you’ll never see the quality of hip hop improve. It’s a real shame…
@@nunusthirst167 that facts but just made bears without samples I understand what bink coming from just blaze made welcome to New York City from scratch flip side beanie Mack Chruch for thugs can’t let you go
Y’all acting like just blaze didn’t make beats without a sample like he didn’t make welcome to New York City from scratch Chruch for thugs war r.o.c they’ll never play me get low don’t realize bitch niggas roc the mic
That's how black hood old heads dressed especially when they big like that for some reason they all stay on that style😂my stepdad still dresses like that
@gkeneralred2380 yet b!nk had all the time in the world to make those iconic beats and he didn't. Full disclosure, they sound like just blaze's beats not b!nks
@@Yaro79 I know for sure u are a lot younger than me and quite to don't wanna admit Just bit his sound. He didn't sign the contract and he was dealing wit Free. Just gets beat up by a producer for biting. But yet and still u say Just didn't bite🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
@gkeneralred2380 firstly,I'm 43,the 79 after my name is a clue,so I really doubt I'm younger ,but what's age got to do with anything. Secondly, unless bink had a hand in crafting the beats,helped with the pianos or drum patterns,then those beats are all just's.
@@TheSstretch68 so everyone was sounding like swizz doing that time y’all just didn’t make beats without a sample like welcome to New York City flip side don’t realize bitch niggas round here war r.o.c they’ll never play Chruch for thugs beanie Mack roc the mic full effect
At that same token, Timbo is on The Blueprint with Hola Hovito & the track sticks out bc its different from the rest. Breaks up the vibe of the album in a good way.
This made me like Bink! even more. He feels the same way as some of the aspiring beatmakers/producers feel. It's hard to have your own sound when you have someone in the game telling you to sound like another producer. A lot of hip hop artists aren't forward thinking. They living into the now riding the wave instead of being themselves. You'll come to find that some of your favorite artists didn't really like some of the songs that made them pop. Labels say, "My way or the highway". At the end of the day most artists gotta eat and when they see that window they JUMP!
I hear Bink… but Timbaland inclusion was basically to break up the monotony and get another established Superstar producer to push the Album. None of the Singles where Bink Produced. Even Tone and Poke/Trackmasters got love.
I understand why Bink don't like it but every producer should do it. I have him as the best hip-hop producer ever because he knew when to conform for the artist and when to make artist conform to his style. And he definitely has his own style that the greats acknowledge. His work with the other Rocafella artists, especially Philadelphia Freeway and Dipset, displayed it. He work with Joe Budden probably shows the uniqueness of one of his sounds the most. Lastly, look for that he had Drake do for Lord Knows.
He salty!! Producers been biting from each others sounds/style for the longest, that’s how they stay relevant! Just Blaze was versatile, he can’t just stick to one type of sound/style if he’s going to make beats for a whole record label (rocafella). Even Babyface and Jam & Lewis had to bite a little from Teddy Riley back in the 90’s. Even Primo kind of bit from Easy Mo Bee on Das Efx Real hip-hop, and the whole west coast was bitting from Dre… that’s just the way it goes. R-Kelly’s production stayed relevant throughout the years cause he knew when and how to bite from what was hot at the moment! That’s the business, no need to be salty about it. Even Swizz Beats was kind of biting from Dame Grease when he was coming up. Get over it Bink!
That’s what I first thought until I did some research after that I realised that Bink created a whole style that producers imitated up till now dude Bink is absolutely ridiculous blaze is fire but Bink is on another level he’s a crearor
@@oracleelectronica Sure, but so did Jam & Lewis in the 80’s, so did Prince, La & Babyface, Teddy Riley, R-Kelly, Rodney Jerkins, Havoc, RZA, Primo, etc… that’s the way it always been. Bink is not more of a genius than them, they just understand that’s how the game is plaid and how you keep your ears to the street.🤷🏾♂️
this guy is so delusional...what did Bink invent? sped up soul loops? ever heard wu tang? a drum fill? please....just blaze has so many classics under his belt. Bink has a handful of good songs and a couple decades of complaining about just under his....also - on what planet does he even have better contributions on the blueprint??? "you don't know" beat > Binks entire career
A lot of producers mimic others styles and for a check it wouldn’t be about nothing to copy someone. For Bink u gotta be real with yourself to not sell out and just be who u are good or bad. Salute to him.
Just Blaze is a legend. I've seen him make street anthems like Roc The Mic all the way to Christina Aguilera records. He's just a versatile nigga that doesn't stick to one style. Hov clearly told niggas that he wanted a samle heavy beat selection for the blueprint. That's why Just and Ye are on so many of the tracks.
Just blaze made HOVI BABY… I can’t see Bink making that… although I do see where he is coming from…. HoVI baby might be the best jay beat ever in my opinion
@@dayoungchief not really so show you don’t realize bitch niggas can’t let you go remix war and r.o.c Chruch for thugs flipside roc the mic beanie Mack they’ll never play me streets is talking the r.o.c song off the dynasty album
Timbaland actually mixed the styles of B!NK with The Neptunes for the Mr. Cheeks n Lil Kim record. Fast pace of "Lights Camera Action" (Mr. Cheeks) with the sound choice n accents of "When's the Last Time" (Clipse).
Most of our greats are students at heart, and Justblaze is a master at production, sonics & sequencing b/c he's a student of the game. He could sound like anybody b/c he studied them, nothing wrong with that. Both these brothers know music, but Justblaze was coming into the game after many pioneers of the sounds of hiphop. Primo, PRock, QTip, Dre, RZA, etc... Even Bink's influence began w/ Notts & Q-Tip. But Bink made a conscience decision to embrace not being a "chameleon", but rather his own style & sound. Justblaze is one fav of all time, but he eventually cultivated & weaved in his own unique way of production as time went on. Everyone isn't bold enough to come into the game w/ innovation. Especially during a time that when they didn't like it or understand it, they simply told you it was whack lol. Nowadays, producers have no problem doing the exact same production, and using the exact same loops from downloaded sound packs. Diff time, diff game
In my era, BITING IS BITING!!!!!! BINK created that ROC sound and once he didn’t sign that management contract, THE ROC just told JUST, do all your beats sounding like BINK.
My whole life, I thought Swiss Beats did" Who The F Want What" by Beans and Bleek - Just Blaze did that? damn, that's interesting. Shit sounds just like the Swiss
Just Blaze sounded like he was Swizz Beatz' Jr. at first. Listen to then listen to Killah Priest's Views From Masada and then listen to his stuff with Rocafella. He obviously jacked Bink's stuff. Bean's Get Down sounds exactly like a Bink beat. This goes back to Bink not signing that contract. It still worked out in the end though. A lot of Bink's stuff withstood the sands of time.
So beats like welcome to New York City flip side don’t realize bitch niggas Chruch for thugs round here full effect war r.o.c they’ll never play get low sounds like bink also
I wanna touch on a couple points not made when they asked Bink why he doesn’t get the credit ..Bink said he was dealing wit Free from 106 ..wasn’t Jay involved with her too ?..u kno how Jay is about the broads ..that and not signing the contract is probly the biggest reason his name wasn’t pushed as far as his work on the album ..and Just is Jay boy
The Takeaway : This just (pun intended) solidifies my stance on this new wave of creatives. Hip Hop music (and culture) is nothing more than a come up. Plain and simple. This is why greatness is now viewed through the lens of sales. Integrity means nothing. I'm glad Bink! actually gave the definition, because a lot of people are clueless.
i get where bink is coming from and i respect it. But like any great, JUST took from Bink and elevated his sound. Just made CLASSICS and got in the right position, not to mention hes very versatile and made hits with VIDEO GAME sounding beats as well, not just the "Bink" sound. "Breathe" sound nothing like Bink, as well as "Dec 4th". I admit, there was quite a few beats that sounded like Bink's sound, but Just evolved from it. Jay-Z going to Just as his go to for a minute speaks volumes.
@@celebneilz1023 If I sound crazy, you must not know much about the craft. Talent is a natural aptitude or skill. Beat making is a learned skill. Over time anybody can become good at it. Some people learn and grow faster than others. Where some see talent, others see hard work and dedication.
Nah, he knew he had a skill of jacking producers and turned it into a livelihood. If 1 or 2 producers said you jacked them in the beginning of you career, it makes sense as most new producers base their work on the people they like the most. But if you have 5 or 6 producers coming for you when you're established in the game then you made a conscious decision to jack them.
@@kaydee1485 you like just didn’t make beats without a samples also like welcome to New York City he made that from scratch don’t realize bitch niggas they’ll never play me get low roc the mic full effect round here war r.o.c Chruch for thugs beanie Mack can’t let you go and remix the r.o.c off the dynasty album streets is talking how you how to
Bink not lying. When I started making noise in 2006-2007 as a music producer, I sent beat cds to every A & R in the game “LUMBAJACK Tracks”.. and one landed on G desk at the ROC and next thing I know “Show Me What You Got” and “Touch The Sky” comes out. Those tracks were on that CD. In return and as a hush move (IMO) I got clearance to use Jay vocals on Juvenile’s single “Way I Be Leanin” off his “Reality Check” album at a time when he wasn’t clearing his vocals for anyone to use.
Wait wait!!! Timbaland doesn’t really sample???? Y’all need to check your homework because Timba is a different kind of sample based producer. Big Pimpin is a sample, along some of his hits for Missy and a slew of others.
Bink need to let it go....just blaze is a legend...he got too much work out there...and a LOT of it don't sound nothing like bink....roc the mic dont sound anything like bink.
I had to comeback to this video after my research I’ve come to the conclusion that Bink created a whole style in rap production that a lot of producers have imitated and still do to this day Bink is top 5
Bink mark Twain said it the best take from others and make it your own. I’m with math on this one. If you nice you nice add the drums To a song don’t have an ego . Having ego gets people replace
Just is guilty for letting guys build these narratives. Someone came up with a sound and they were told what direction that album is going. Hov wanted that soul sound. They were picked to create something similar.
What about him sounding like Swizz Beats? What about when he sounded like Self. Bing is the 3rd producer to come on this show and say Just Blaze Copied their. That was just Blaze style, the fact that he could copy other producer's style.
@@shantaalli2865same thing Kanye said about Jus Blaze but Jay said himself there was a certain sound he wanted an he told them to make it that was the assignment Just to his job these niggas mad he gets the shine more. then they do
@@nicechasinchasegods7051 It's been so many beat I heard on the radio and though it was one producer but it was Just Blaze. Jay Z "Dear Summer, I though that was Ski Beats. Memphis Bleek "is" I thought that was Swizz beats. Jay Z show me what you got, I thought that was K Def. ETC
Bruh production just like rapping, everyone is influencing everyone. If you listen to Just early records busta joint, Buck Shot and even who want what, it was very swizz beat or ensonic esq. However all your records have the same drums underneath with the same fills and drops ro different rhythms. Even you don't know and 1900 hustler sound VERY DIFFERENT, if you listen close. I know a lot of producers who learned how to EQ being in a session with Teddy Riley, doesn't mean they took his swag. Honestly Bink sounds mad that they jumped behind Just and not him. Even Ye accused Just of the same but Jay himself defended Just. I don't understand in our culture why the competition makes us enemies. Jay and Nas still manage to share space even though they went at each other. Math I'm tired of this narrative yall gotta start asking more direct challenging questions imho cause these dudes will paint a narrative that makes them always appear as their ego sees. Melle Mel and Eminem that's what I wanna see. A real convo cause that narrative is important
Bink point about Timberland makes no sense. The texture didn't fit but content did it was a break from the feel of the album. Guru is an engineer who would have a better vantage point. Jay sounded like Jaz and Big and Big L and others at times, doesn't make him them. It's influence
I’ve seen videos of Blaze producing …. He can play a lot of instruments and produce any style ….. I don’t know, I mean, if Dame or Jay or a rapper at that time is asking for a specific vibe, why wouldn’t a person that can mimic styles do that? I think producers who have 1 set sound or style is because they’re limited or they’re hiding their range ….. I would have to see a situation where Blaze just blatantly remade a beat, sample and all ….
you can CLEARLY see the resentment in bink! towards just blaze.... its HOV who chooses what to rhyme on not just... if bink! would of sign the production contract with the roc and went on a run and drop singles with jayz on mulitple albums after blueprint, would he feel this way... 9 out of 10 times probablly not.... my thang is, if you can produce songs like 1 900 hustler with EASE!!!... why jay didnt get anymore of em????.......... because EVERYBODY including me wanted to hear more of that!!......... imgagine how many producers wanted to sound like marley marl, rza, dr dre, havoc, dj premiere.......... a whole bunch of folks wanted to sound like it and try to do!... if I was bink! i would inforced my will and cooked up more hot shit REGARDLESS of who was at the roc!... becacuse EVERYBODY would have rapped on it!!!!..........facts!
The amount of hatred and jealously that Just Blaze deals with is a testament to his greatness. Bink is also great. I wish he wasn't so bitter because he's a great in his own right
Keep in mind that Timbaland was on the Blueprint, which only strengthens Bink's argument. Timbaland, Eminem & the Track Masters did what they naturally do on The Blueprint. Eminem gave him a whole Em/Royce song.
The difference was that Just was signed by Rocafella. He was given a different objective than the rest of them. He was more constrained to the overall sound/tone of the album.
Unpopular opinion: I think being a chameleon is Just Blaze’s super power. Being able to produce whatever sound is needed to complement the vision of the artist sounds like a plus, not a minus. FYI, i get what he’s sayin, I just like being contrarian.
Right. I'm so sick of hearing about this. Bink is dope too don't get me wrong, but if Just bit his style then his phone should have been ringing off the hook like Blaze's too. And Kanye said the same thing but why did he let him produce Touch The Sky if he felt that way? They need to leave my guy Just alone. His track record speaks for itself.
Definitely. If someone is a producer and they’re trying to get placements you’re going to go with what works. Easy Mo Bee did it on Life After Death once he saw Puff was going away from the Ready To Die sound to a more commercial feel. Great producers just like MC’s can change with the times.
Math, behind it all is music rights control. Bink & Ye I submit, weren't willing to give up more rights control so something close to their signature sound but under my control would fit the future benefit. The instructors use their muscle
Embrass?! EMBRACE my guy, it's spelled, EMBRACE. 😁
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800k subscribers don’t make you literate…
We gotta do better as a people yo 🤣
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Dawg lol
I wish the audio was a little better on this
Me too man I'm struggling to hear this shit 😂
This sloppy work. Hoffa need to hire the other dude back. Smh
Bruh the camera work and sound since they let Ghost go has been ass.
Glad Bink story finally getting heard, i had the privilege to go to his studio and hear everything from him
Is he from VA?
I gotta respect Bink for the position he’s taking. The era that most hip hop heads miss that had great music was because of producers and beatmakers of this caliber. Creating your OWN sound and expression, separating yourself is what pushed the music forward. In a world where copying is overlooked and tolerated cause everybody just wants the bag, you’ll never see the quality of hip hop improve. It’s a real shame…
Eeeeeh not really you’re pretty much saying Just Blaze wasn’t needed when in fact he has just as many classic beats as Bink. For us fans we win 🤷🏿♂️
@@nunusthirst167 that facts but just made bears without samples I understand what bink coming from just blaze made welcome to New York City from scratch flip side beanie Mack Chruch for thugs can’t let you go
@@terrelljackson1995 Not sure what you’re saying. I wasn’t dissing Just Blaze & all his beats were not composed from scratch
@@nunusthirst167 naw it’s not like that at all dawg its all love
Actual Facts my guy!!!! Thanks for saying this!!‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯
Bink is one of the all time greats. This is a very special interview and he is speaking FACTS.
@Frank P never said better music is subjective
Y’all acting like just blaze didn’t make beats without a sample like he didn’t make welcome to New York City from scratch Chruch for thugs war r.o.c they’ll never play me get low don’t realize bitch niggas roc the mic
Bigga always dressed like he just came home from doing 20 yrs 😂
😂😂😂
That's how black hood old heads dressed especially when they big like that for some reason they all stay on that style😂my stepdad still dresses like that
Big Up Nottz and Bink! Norfolk Producer Legends
VA is something else ... They have the most unique producers in music
'I'M NOT A BITER .. I'M A PRODUCER .. 4 MYSELF .. AND OTHERS .. I MAKE A BINK BEAT .. I'M ONLY BIGGIN UP MY BROTHER' - JUST BLAZE
This literally make me laugh out loud lol
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lol
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😭😭😭😭😩😩wow
Audio sounds wild on this one
Thought I was the only one.
Somebody messin up.
The quote is the final line!!I "If I am Chasing a Check I will Do Anything" The encapsulate it all right there!!
Oh boy
PSA
You don't know
What we do
Dynasty Intro
5 of the most iconic beats of the Rocafella era made by just blaze.
Outside of Oh Boy, they sound like B!nk tracks
@gkeneralred2380 yet b!nk had all the time in the world to make those iconic beats and he didn't.
Full disclosure, they sound like just blaze's beats not b!nks
@@Yaro79 I know for sure u are a lot younger than me and quite to don't wanna admit Just bit his sound. He didn't sign the contract and he was dealing wit Free. Just gets beat up by a producer for biting. But yet and still u say Just didn't bite🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
@@Yaro79 and what is most iconic is debatable and personal preference.
@gkeneralred2380 firstly,I'm 43,the 79 after my name is a clue,so I really doubt I'm younger ,but what's age got to do with anything.
Secondly, unless bink had a hand in crafting the beats,helped with the pianos or drum patterns,then those beats are all just's.
Just is not a biter, he a beat maker for himself and others. When he biting B!nk, he only biggin up his brother he big enough to do it
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😂😂😂😂😂 Bigging up his borough, He's big enough to do it, He's that thorough, Plus he knows his own beats is foolish
This is hilarious 😂
classic
So the rings and things you sing about he bring ‘em out. It’s hard to sell the beat if Just put it out 😂😂😂
Stand On It!!!! Integrity A Lot of Folks don"t have it or know what it means.
Daaamn he right about 'who the fuck want what' track. The scratch sound, the triangle, and bounce 😂😂😂 daaamn
TRUE STORY!!!!! When he said that I started hearing that beat in my head and was like SWIZZ ain’t do that beat? 😂😂
Damn he got a point..I swear that beat was Swizz
@@TheSstretch68 so everyone was sounding like swizz doing that time y’all just didn’t make beats without a sample like welcome to New York City flip side don’t realize bitch niggas round here war r.o.c they’ll never play Chruch for thugs beanie Mack roc the mic full effect
At that same token, Timbo is on The Blueprint with Hola Hovito & the track sticks out bc its different from the rest. Breaks up the vibe of the album in a good way.
Different yes but Hands down the worst song on that album
@@newelldavis1858it was Jigga that Nigga for me
I skip both of those songs honestly. They both ruin the cohesiveness of the album
@@candidcamron1930 2 Vain ass songs with his nicknames as the title 😂😂😂
Thank goodness none of yall making albums. Them shits would be monotone & straight ass 😆
This is dope that yall can literally just sit in the barber shop and make all types of content
It's like a New York thing
@@prof3ssor178 it’s a Black thing
This made me like Bink! even more. He feels the same way as some of the aspiring beatmakers/producers feel. It's hard to have your own sound when you have someone in the game telling you to sound like another producer. A lot of hip hop artists aren't forward thinking. They living into the now riding the wave instead of being themselves. You'll come to find that some of your favorite artists didn't really like some of the songs that made them pop. Labels say, "My way or the highway". At the end of the day most artists gotta eat and when they see that window they JUMP!
I hear Bink… but Timbaland inclusion was basically to break up the monotony and get another established Superstar producer to push the Album. None of the Singles where Bink Produced. Even Tone and Poke/Trackmasters got love.
I understand why Bink don't like it but every producer should do it. I have him as the best hip-hop producer ever because he knew when to conform for the artist and when to make artist conform to his style. And he definitely has his own style that the greats acknowledge. His work with the other Rocafella artists, especially Philadelphia Freeway and Dipset, displayed it. He work with Joe Budden probably shows the uniqueness of one of his sounds the most. Lastly, look for that he had Drake do for Lord Knows.
He salty!! Producers been biting from each others sounds/style for the longest, that’s how they stay relevant! Just Blaze was versatile, he can’t just stick to one type of sound/style if he’s going to make beats for a whole record label (rocafella). Even Babyface and Jam & Lewis had to bite a little from Teddy Riley back in the 90’s. Even Primo kind of bit from Easy Mo Bee on Das Efx Real hip-hop, and the whole west coast was bitting from Dre… that’s just the way it goes. R-Kelly’s production stayed relevant throughout the years cause he knew when and how to bite from what was hot at the moment! That’s the business, no need to be salty about it. Even Swizz Beats was kind of biting from Dame Grease when he was coming up. Get over it Bink!
ALL FACTS
Finally someone uses the word “versatile” 😮💨
That’s what I first thought until I did some research after that I realised that Bink created a whole style that producers imitated up till now dude Bink is absolutely ridiculous blaze is fire but Bink is on another level he’s a crearor
@@oracleelectronica Sure, but so did Jam & Lewis in the 80’s, so did Prince, La & Babyface, Teddy Riley, R-Kelly, Rodney Jerkins, Havoc, RZA, Primo, etc… that’s the way it always been. Bink is not more of a genius than them, they just understand that’s how the game is plaid and how you keep your ears to the street.🤷🏾♂️
5:35 Yes Sir,
That's all we've been saying from jump,
don't let the others in the barbershop
over talk the guest!
Man Parks is so underappreciated.. The sound makes a difference.. Yo Math, call Joe now 🤧
Thought I was buggin about the sound.
Sound is absolutely terrible
@@PopOutPaulie That's what homie gets for dubbing Ghost. Sometimes it's best to just pay niggas what they worth and chill.
All I Need by Jay is one if not favorite beats ever 🔥‼️‼️
I listen to it mostly everyday at work n jayz was talking on all I need to 💪🏿💯🔥
Facts!!!
It’s crazy how the words “versatile” or “swiss army knife” aren’t used in reference to Just Blaze 🤔
BINK it Hurts when someone copies your style , but you need to create more art and let your Talent speak
Peace
this guy is so delusional...what did Bink invent? sped up soul loops? ever heard wu tang? a drum fill? please....just blaze has so many classics under his belt. Bink has a handful of good songs and a couple decades of complaining about just under his....also - on what planet does he even have better contributions on the blueprint??? "you don't know" beat > Binks entire career
Nah… You gotta listen to Just before he was working with Jigga. He had a whole different sound. Not shittin on Just, that’s just a fact.
A lot of producers mimic others styles and for a check it wouldn’t be about nothing to copy someone. For Bink u gotta be real with yourself to not sell out and just be who u are good or bad. Salute to him.
Just Blaze is a legend. I've seen him make street anthems like Roc The Mic all the way to Christina Aguilera records. He's just a versatile nigga that doesn't stick to one style. Hov clearly told niggas that he wanted a samle heavy beat selection for the blueprint. That's why Just and Ye are on so many of the tracks.
I read the tagline a couple times and thought my brain was glitching 😂
Just blaze made HOVI BABY… I can’t see Bink making that… although I do see where he is coming from…. HoVI baby might be the best jay beat ever in my opinion
Like he did create welcome to New York City beat from scratch
@@terrelljackson1995 I can’t see bink making welcome to New York City
Hov I Baby literally sounds like a Bink Beat 😂
@@dayoungchief not really so show you don’t realize bitch niggas can’t let you go remix war and r.o.c Chruch for thugs flipside roc the mic beanie Mack they’ll never play me streets is talking the r.o.c song off the dynasty album
@@dayoungchief exactly
Timbaland actually mixed the styles of B!NK with The Neptunes for the Mr. Cheeks n Lil Kim record. Fast pace of "Lights Camera Action" (Mr. Cheeks) with the sound choice n accents of "When's the Last Time" (Clipse).
Embrass is when you hold tightly on a trumpet.
Hilarious
Bigga always look like he dont believe nothing any guest is saying😂
Most of our greats are students at heart, and Justblaze is a master at production, sonics & sequencing b/c he's a student of the game. He could sound like anybody b/c he studied them, nothing wrong with that. Both these brothers know music, but Justblaze was coming into the game after many pioneers of the sounds of hiphop. Primo, PRock, QTip, Dre, RZA, etc... Even Bink's influence began w/ Notts & Q-Tip. But Bink made a conscience decision to embrace not being a "chameleon", but rather his own style & sound. Justblaze is one fav of all time, but he eventually cultivated & weaved in his own unique way of production as time went on. Everyone isn't bold enough to come into the game w/ innovation. Especially during a time that when they didn't like it or understand it, they simply told you it was whack lol. Nowadays, producers have no problem doing the exact same production, and using the exact same loops from downloaded sound packs. Diff time, diff game
You can study someone you looked up to but you still have to have your OWN sound.
@@ALexander-ue3kj I agree💯, and that's Bink's whole stance
*Nottz
Tha fuck is a Binx?
In my era, BITING IS BITING!!!!!!
BINK created that ROC sound and once he didn’t sign that management contract, THE ROC just told JUST, do all your beats sounding like BINK.
My whole life, I thought Swiss Beats did" Who The F Want What" by Beans and Bleek - Just Blaze did that? damn, that's interesting. Shit sounds just like the Swiss
ME TOO 😂😂
When I read the title I was like hold tf up 😂😂😂 wtf he mean “EMBRASS”
Just Blaze sounded like he was Swizz Beatz' Jr. at first. Listen to then listen to Killah Priest's Views From Masada and then listen to his stuff with Rocafella. He obviously jacked Bink's stuff.
Bean's Get Down sounds exactly like a Bink beat.
This goes back to Bink not signing that contract. It still worked out in the end though. A lot of Bink's stuff withstood the sands of time.
So beats like welcome to New York City flip side don’t realize bitch niggas Chruch for thugs round here full effect war r.o.c they’ll never play get low sounds like bink also
His definition of integrity is on point. Worth watching this segment just to get to the end
“ Who the f**k want what “ definitely sounds more a Swizz beat, than a Just Blaze one 💯
Damn the audio killin me. Too good of a convo for this
I wanna touch on a couple points not made when they asked Bink why he doesn’t get the credit ..Bink said he was dealing wit Free from 106 ..wasn’t Jay involved with her too ?..u kno how Jay is about the broads ..that and not signing the contract is probly the biggest reason his name wasn’t pushed as far as his work on the album ..and Just is Jay boy
Integrity is what the world needs more of
"You're A Beat Biter
Dope Style Taker..
Tell You To Your Face
You Ain't Nothing But A Faker"
Buckshot did a interview with doggie diamonds. He said the same thing about Just Blaze being a copycat.
The Takeaway : This just (pun intended) solidifies my stance on this new wave of creatives. Hip Hop music (and culture) is nothing more than a come up. Plain and simple. This is why greatness is now viewed through the lens of sales. Integrity means nothing. I'm glad Bink! actually gave the definition, because a lot of people are clueless.
Underrated comment but all FACTS.
The audio here is horrible
i get where bink is coming from and i respect it. But like any great, JUST took from Bink and elevated his sound. Just made CLASSICS and got in the right position, not to mention hes very versatile and made hits with VIDEO GAME sounding beats as well, not just the "Bink" sound. "Breathe" sound nothing like Bink, as well as "Dec 4th". I admit, there was quite a few beats that sounded like Bink's sound, but Just evolved from it. Jay-Z going to Just as his go to for a minute speaks volumes.
Itz not an accident "You Don't Know" is a fire beat. Talent is talent. Perceived biting or not...
Beat-making is a learned skill, not a talent.
@@eyeswideopen2442 excuse me, what!?
@@emceetv101 You don't have to be talented to make beats. Anyone can do it if they dedicate themselves to the craft.
@@eyeswideopen2442 you sound crazy 😂😂😂 music is feeling bro , dis is art. Music is as talented as it gets
@@celebneilz1023 If I sound crazy, you must not know much about the craft. Talent is a natural aptitude or skill. Beat making is a learned skill. Over time anybody can become good at it. Some people learn and grow faster than others. Where some see talent, others see hard work and dedication.
I wonder how RZA feels
Just Blaze actually gave that beat to Jadakiss before Jay-Z, But that’s crazy bink is super dope I think just Blaze was trying to Fit in that’s all
Nah, he knew he had a skill of jacking producers and turned it into a livelihood. If 1 or 2 producers said you jacked them in the beginning of you career, it makes sense as most new producers base their work on the people they like the most. But if you have 5 or 6 producers coming for you when you're established in the game then you made a conscious decision to jack them.
@@kaydee1485 you like just didn’t make beats without a samples also like welcome to New York City he made that from scratch don’t realize bitch niggas they’ll never play me get low roc the mic full effect round here war r.o.c Chruch for thugs beanie Mack can’t let you go and remix the r.o.c off the dynasty album streets is talking how you how to
Bink not lying. When I started making noise in 2006-2007 as a music producer, I sent beat cds to every A & R in the game “LUMBAJACK Tracks”.. and one landed on G desk at the ROC and next thing I know “Show Me What You Got” and “Touch The Sky” comes out. Those tracks were on that CD. In return and as a hush move (IMO) I got clearance to use Jay vocals on Juvenile’s single “Way I Be Leanin” off his “Reality Check” album at a time when he wasn’t clearing his vocals for anyone to use.
So basically, what Bink is saying is that Just Blaze was being a producer.🤷
Wait wait!!! Timbaland doesn’t really sample???? Y’all need to check your homework because Timba is a different kind of sample based producer. Big Pimpin is a sample, along some of his hits for Missy and a slew of others.
Shiiit let DJ Premier & Large Pro come thru n expose Bitin ass producers... it'll take a whole episode
that last line was too powerful!!!
Shang Tsung analogy is perfect 😭😭😭😭
Just still one of my favorites of all time... Bink shit went crazy too
Bink need to let it go....just blaze is a legend...he got too much work out there...and a LOT of it don't sound nothing like bink....roc the mic dont sound anything like bink.
I definitely got confuse with a bink beat and a just blaze beat until I read the credits back then..
It still happens today. There’s a Rivk Ross track I swore was Just until I looked at the credits. 😑
The production of this show has really took a step back it doesn't look or sound the same anymore 🤔
Bink definitely has a sound, his drums A+
I had to comeback to this video after my research I’ve come to the conclusion that Bink created a whole style in rap production that a lot of producers have imitated and still do to this day Bink is top 5
Bink not letting up on Just Blaze yo! 😂
dude is on that nigga's neck hard yo! lmfao
@@dareason7581 facts, hopefully Math could get Just Blaze on there soon
@@NOP215 Just isn’t a confrontational type dude so he won’t say much about Bink.
@@Polostar79 right
The audio sound like wire taps LMAO
Let me found Just is "Shang Tsung" 😂😂
Bink mark Twain said it the best take from others and make it your own. I’m with math on this one. If you nice you nice add the drums
To a song don’t have an ego . Having ego gets people replace
Salute to Bink for dropping truth.
Damn Math you are a cookie taker you done fuxx up playing with C White
Believe it or not Alot more of Pharrell’s sounds are Samples or interpolations. Most people don’t even catch them
Just is guilty for letting guys build these narratives. Someone came up with a sound and they were told what direction that album is going. Hov wanted that soul sound. They were picked to create something similar.
What about him sounding like Swizz Beats? What about when he sounded like Self. Bing is the 3rd producer to come on this show and say Just Blaze Copied their. That was just Blaze style, the fact that he could copy other producer's style.
@@shantaalli2865same thing Kanye said about Jus Blaze but Jay said himself there was a certain sound he wanted an he told them to make it that was the assignment Just to his job these niggas mad he gets the shine more. then they do
@@nicechasinchasegods7051 It's been so many beat I heard on the radio and though it was one producer but it was Just Blaze. Jay Z "Dear Summer, I though that was Ski Beats. Memphis Bleek "is" I thought that was Swizz beats. Jay Z show me what you got, I thought that was K Def. ETC
@@shantaalli2865 🧢
Right super cap just blaze never sound like swizz
Timbaland track fit the album in the sense that it's the Timbaland record of the jayz album. It's the novelty that makes it fit
Bruh production just like rapping, everyone is influencing everyone. If you listen to Just early records busta joint, Buck Shot and even who want what, it was very swizz beat or ensonic esq. However all your records have the same drums underneath with the same fills and drops ro different rhythms. Even you don't know and 1900 hustler sound VERY DIFFERENT, if you listen close. I know a lot of producers who learned how to EQ being in a session with Teddy Riley, doesn't mean they took his swag. Honestly Bink sounds mad that they jumped behind Just and not him. Even Ye accused Just of the same but Jay himself defended Just. I don't understand in our culture why the competition makes us enemies. Jay and Nas still manage to share space even though they went at each other. Math I'm tired of this narrative yall gotta start asking more direct challenging questions imho cause these dudes will paint a narrative that makes them always appear as their ego sees. Melle Mel and Eminem that's what I wanna see. A real convo cause that narrative is important
Bink point about Timberland makes no sense. The texture didn't fit but content did it was a break from the feel of the album. Guru is an engineer who would have a better vantage point. Jay sounded like Jaz and Big and Big L and others at times, doesn't make him them. It's influence
Jesus math. This audio.
I’ve seen videos of Blaze producing …. He can play a lot of instruments and produce any style ….. I don’t know, I mean, if Dame or Jay or a rapper at that time is asking for a specific vibe, why wouldn’t a person that can mimic styles do that?
I think producers who have 1 set sound or style is because they’re limited or they’re hiding their range ….. I would have to see a situation where Blaze just blatantly remade a beat, sample and all ….
Bink stands on his morals even if it loses him business...I respect it
The Kicks, Hi-Hats (even the cadence), Dj Spins, Snare, Hornz in "Who Want What" is a Swizz Rip-Off 😂😂😂 CTRL+C then CTRL+V
Nah....enough of the Just Blaze slander. So what if he was inspired by you??? He STILL MADE those classic joints
Them freeway bangers ,(what we do ,roc the mic ,welcome to New York City ,hovi baby ,live my life from ti,touch the sky,;etc
Great snippet! I wish the audio was a lil different. It sounds kinda funny. Nonetheless, great show n respect the consistency
you can CLEARLY see the resentment in bink! towards just blaze.... its HOV who chooses what to rhyme on not just... if bink! would of sign the production contract with the roc and went on a run and drop singles with jayz on mulitple albums after blueprint, would he feel this way... 9 out of 10 times probablly not.... my thang is, if you can produce songs like 1 900 hustler with EASE!!!... why jay didnt get anymore of em????.......... because EVERYBODY including me wanted to hear more of that!!......... imgagine how many producers wanted to sound like marley marl, rza, dr dre, havoc, dj premiere.......... a whole bunch of folks wanted to sound like it and try to do!... if I was bink! i would inforced my will and cooked up more hot shit REGARDLESS of who was at the roc!... becacuse EVERYBODY would have rapped on it!!!!..........facts!
The amount of hatred and jealously that Just Blaze deals with is a testament to his greatness. Bink is also great. I wish he wasn't so bitter because he's a great in his own right
THIS GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE!!!!
Devil in a new dress is one of the best beats ever
i tryd to let it go...but its embrace
Timbaland sampled a lot, guys, but like Bink said, he was different. Tims range of sample usage was bits and pieces most the time
Right Timbaland manipulates a sample to the point u would need an audio analysis done to figure out where it came from 😂
@@bigdyce45 hell yea bruh
Keep in mind that Timbaland was on the Blueprint, which only strengthens Bink's argument. Timbaland, Eminem & the Track Masters did what they naturally do on The Blueprint. Eminem gave him a whole Em/Royce song.
The difference was that Just was signed by Rocafella. He was given a different objective than the rest of them. He was more constrained to the overall sound/tone of the album.
2023 is definitely on riding the bitter old head wave
Ye said this, and you guys called him crazy
The audio been lacking lately, great interview though.
Bink is mad Dope... every Hood has one of him
Bink speaking facts
The fact they ain't acknowledge the fact another producer smacked Just up for biting is just sad
Yo the content is great but the audio consistency gets shaky at times. Yall gotta lockdown the audio! I love this show !
One thing about it, Bink gonna stand on that shit forever lol
I respect Bink and actually feel Just did copy his style but the fact that Just produced “I Really Mean It” I gotta salute Just he made a lot of 🔥🔥
CW sent me... ima need you uhh.... to respond to the...tape he got lol
He probably won’t embrass that tape I willing to bet
Unpopular opinion: I think being a chameleon is Just Blaze’s super power. Being able to produce whatever sound is needed to complement the vision of the artist sounds like a plus, not a minus.
FYI, i get what he’s sayin, I just like being contrarian.
Timbaland samples crazy what are they talking about he just adds layers to his music
Was just about to type the same thing! Timbaland sampled a lot of Indian music
Timbaland does sample.... Ya'll have no clue of Timbo's gifts on the board. He does it all immaculately!!!
Respect to Bink, but Just Blaze would destroy him in a VS. They don't even really sound that much alike to me. This just sounds like sour grapes.
Right. I'm so sick of hearing about this. Bink is dope too don't get me wrong, but if Just bit his style then his phone should have been ringing off the hook like Blaze's too. And Kanye said the same thing but why did he let him produce Touch The Sky if he felt that way? They need to leave my guy Just alone. His track record speaks for itself.
Say that loud 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
Definitely. If someone is a producer and they’re trying to get placements you’re going to go with what works. Easy Mo Bee did it on Life After Death once he saw Puff was going away from the Ready To Die sound to a more commercial feel. Great producers just like MC’s can change with the times.
Math, behind it all is music rights control. Bink & Ye I submit, weren't willing to give up more rights control so something close to their signature sound but under my control would fit the future benefit. The instructors use their muscle