13:12 Navia’s set is also Ningguang’s BIS, since a lot of Husk does nothing for her and Archaic Petra 4 piece is just not good, while the attack and Geo buffs from Navia’s set works perfectly for her
and also since she is catalyst user, as long as someone is doing off field element application on enemy, she will nearly always gonna have the 4 piece buff completely
I spent over 2000 resin for Navia and Chevy. Here's the drop rate I get- mostly Song artifact with DPS stats. If Nighttime piece drops it's with healer sets. Feels like this is intentionally stacked to drop like this as it's same thing with Clamshell/ Husk domain.
this domain is so merciless, i have spent around 3k resin on it and i have 7 double crit rate flowers for Navia but not even 1 attack% sands. im not talking about good atk% sands. im talking about ANY atk% sands 😭 and dont even get me started on crit hats, i stopped believing that they even exist
Yeah the set still isn't worth it, in practice it seems good but the overall damage it gives really is behind Clam. The 5 stacks are also consumed faster by the same attack when hitting more enemies wich makes the set really bad in AoE, Clam doesn't have this issue since it will deal it's dmg regardless
Clam does rely on you being near the enemies so a Ganyu or a ranged distance Neuvillette or Lyney can't really make much use of Clam vs this set. As a rule of thumb, I'd say that this set is better tha clam for hypercarries in ST while Clam is better for more even damage distribution across many enemy headcounts.
This is really meant more for healers you wouldn't put in clam to begin with, like Diona. Clam is useless on her, 2p HP is redundant, and some of the teams you'd use her in already have a Nobless user which makes that set redundant on her. We've needed another healing set option outside of clam (useful mostly on Kokomi, Qiqi and Baihzu) and maidens (useful on no one) for a while. If you get a full set while farming for Navia then you might as well use it.
the thing about the new healing set is it functions like shenhe buff. if the character using the buff is really invested, it can outperform clam. The max buff can also be triggered twice per rotation with the right healer though this is really hard to calculate since the way the recording and buffing time works is kinda clunky. you have to time your support chars attacks in a 6 second window else you're wasting the stacks etc. its not like shenhe, you press E, you know you have the buff.
About the 6 seconds part is wrong.6 seconds is the time period to record the heal. The buff one only expire after 10 seconds or after 5 attacks. Since the set is can activate off field, it’s not you timed attacks in 6 seconds windo but 10.
@@huytruong6021 i think you misunderstood, what i meant by the "6s window" is if you spent too much time on your supports, you can prematurely use the stacks on your supports and not your DPS hence wasting your stacks since the stacks is for the whole team not individual characters. We're both actually talking about the same thing. Other way to put it - since it's 6s to record, if you went past that 6s and you're still on your support, and you attack with that support, you will waste stacks.
Double edged sword, though. If your characters are good, then you don't need the buff, so why bother having to work your rotation around that 6s delay?
That's 6 sec delay isn't a big deal ,you could even use it to your advantage, for example,in the team Moga used , usually the rotation is furina E-Q, baizhu E-Q,kazuha E-Q, then neuvilate, in that 6 sec time you can use kazuha so once you reach neuvilate that 6 sec delay is just about finished.
You can't use it to your advantage. You don't gain an extra 6s of time because you're using the new set. The clock keeps ticking. You can work it into your rotation so that the potential cost is nullified, yes, but that isn't an advantage. And then something happens that throws off your rotation, like you have to dodge, you get knocked back, or whatever. Or some effect heals you, starting the timer at a different point, and now the timing is scuffed. And so on. Now, yes, these things happen with other things as well. But ask any Eula owner how much can change in six seconds ;) Mind you, even if things get scuffed, it's still going to provide some extra damage. But that doesn't change that, the more invested you are, the less the extra damage matters, the more likely the set is a "win more", rather than a "more wins", while the downsides to the set remain the same.
@@Axterix13 oh no!! rotation has to changed so dps can get buff!! with the logic that adjusting the rotation to fit in the songs of day past buff is stupid like you're bound to switch rotations to give buffs to dps anyways.
@@Axterix13 lol just use this set with an off field healer like baizhu and switch out other characters to do stuff. Though now it clearly that this set is for xianyun that the way she heal and and buff plunging attack that this set allow to buff only 5 attack during 10 seconds is make sense. So in conclusion, this is a niche set work for only well with some character
The best part of song is that it doesn't have cooldown, do not missunderstad the 10 seconds after the 1st 6, that the time to use it not at a CD you have to waste. If u heal the set start to record for 6 seconds and if u heal again it start to record for other 6 seconds, but u still get the buff effect for the last one. So if u hit the 5 buffed attacks fast you can have them again really fast. I wanted Baizhu to test it with his ult since he gets the 15K heal easily and during a long time in his ult, but i do not have him.
While it seems kinda good when you test it, it really has many downsides which could've easily been avoided. The main issues being: - Takes 6 seconds to even start buffing the character. (This is bad due to most healers being easily able to achieve the 15k beforehand, leaving a few seconds of absolutely nothing.) - Has a low amount of procs, only being 5 and consuming them in AoE. (They will literally get depleted in an instant against a group of enemies. 5 procs only isn't a lot either, especially due to how low they made the actual added damage too.) - Heal conversion to damage isn't that great, only being capped at 15k alongside only using 8% of it. (It's a low % to say the least, you don't really get a great base number.) Other sets (clam) are just way more reliable than this one and just output more general damage. This is unfortunate since a new (and actually good) healing set would've been nice. How I'd (personally) buff it: - Allow the effect to start as soon as you heal the max amount the set can consume. (Allows for more fluid gameplay, especially with healers who have high capabilities) - Increase the amount of procs to maybe 8, but they no longer get consumed in AoE situations. (Would make it better to use against grouped enemies for example, and just overall more procs would be beneficial) - Increase the % to 10%. (A slight damage increase, not overboard if the other aspects were also buffed) I'm just saying random stuff atp and people probably won't even read this but whatevs B). Not like the genshin devs listen to their community anyway 🤷♂. It's also just funny that they nerfed this set in the beta too.. Like what..? It was weak from the get-go LMAO.
Thing is- other sets aren't particularly better. Clam can only outperform if you are using a teamwide healer, aren't in melee range with enemies, or simply can't heal enough for it to begin with. The other sets will rely on your characters scaling with atk. For anyone EM, HP, or def scaling, I'd suggest this set over likes of Noblesse or Tenacity. Song of Days Past rather competes against Clam with buffs hyperfocused on your hypercarry, so like hyperbloom is centered around the electro trigger stacking up all the EM. The carry is the stat stick for the flat dmg buffs of 5 hits. A hyperinvested carry would gain akin to 30k damage from 5+ hits vs Clam where it may not be the best choice for characters that heal a 1/4th of what is needed to max out clam. Nevertheless, Song of Days past does not have that ease of use you could have with Noblesse, ToM, or Clam, but becomes stronger the morve invested your "stat stick" carry is. It would work well on Itto or even navia. I think Chiori would be a great user of this set for Navia. That flat dmg would also consider the 200% of original dmg increase, Navia's atk buff from ascension, Furina's buffs, etc. Song relies on buffs while Tenacity and Noblesse buffs and Ocean hued clam does fixed damage outside the realm of resistance shreds.
1. Doesn't takes 6 second to triggers. It means you have 6 seconds of heals up to 15k. If it's immediate like Jean and etc, It triggers instantly. 2. If you happens to use 2 healers, It may trigger seperately. Example Bennet and Chev. Not suggesting It.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 Clam is best for onfield Kokomi though, the set can deal 24k dmg to all enemies every 3 seconds while she's driving the Nilou bloom team.
@@lacortina977 The first part is wrong, isnt it? The set description say the “the Yearning effect will be created for 6s” and then “When the duration expires, the Yearning effect will be transformed into the Waves of Days Past effect” Nothing say if your healing record go 15k before 6s duration it will take the buff instantly.
btw a great thing about running Baizhu with Furina is that he doesn't need to be on-field for any of Furina's burst duration. You can use his skill and immediately burst with Furina and you will always be healed after she finishes the burst animation.
on its own probably not a great set but considering that you get that buff on top of the main character's artifact buff, its always a bonus, probably more than ocean hued clam
What people fail to realize is the set stacks with multiple healers wearing the set. Put 3 healers and a main, then watch the damage pile up. I haven't seen any TH-cam video talk about this..
Would be a waste to use multiple healers since only the healing stack not the dmg Even with 3 healers your max buff is still 1200dmg 5 times every 6 sec
@@Evitzeoshowerthoughts it's okay. EM vs HP Kuki healing has little difference because of her passive. Most players would prefer EM because you can deal more damage while maintaining a good amount of healing compared to HP that is only good on healing.
The healing set would be really good for Mika and his team, but it's still not worth farming if you already have Noblesse on him and don't wanna farm the geo set for Navia or Ninguang (potentially, Chiori too)
Navia's set is bis for her in all cases, with mh or not. You can check KQM's calcs for further more info in their website. This set is worse than clam by quite alot in almost all cases except if its on a healer than cant use clam properly
Ok, I wanted to give my two cents on the artifact set. This set competes with three generalist sets- Ocean hued clam Noblesse Oblige Tenacity of the Millelith. Two of these sets are catered to buffing the team, but hinges on the team scaling with atk. Thus, Noblesse and Tenacity don't work for HP scaler teams like a mono hydro or Neuvillette-Furina team. Ocean Hued clam relies on 10k Hp a tick to get the most of it. It hinges on periodical team healing. Sometimes an instant teamwide nuke healer could use it and may beat out Song of Days Past. Ocean Hued Clam's advantage is AoE. It has high ease-of-use and scales higher the more enemies are in vicinity. Will pretty much cap at 30k to 33k (with superconduct) against bosses. Song of Days Past works like Shenhe, and will take effect 6s after healing, which makes it less easy to use than the other three sets, but that comfort issue can be ignored or get used to. Now this set works better with character investment, primarily with hypercarries since they tend to absorb the brunt of buffs. We can take Wanderer for Xiao for example- Furina, Faruzan, and Xiao amplify different things in the formula- anemo res debuff, dmg bonus buff, attack buff, and crit dmg buff via Faruzan. Say you are fighting 4 enemies and you have Clam on Mika, maxing out one instance of the bubble and hitting each enemy for 30k. That is 120k damage. Song of Days Past has to outdo 120k damage as 5 damage instances. So Song has to pull out an average of a 24k dmg increase per instance per enemy in 5 stacks. But not only that, but by the time Song is in effect, Mika would have healed 7500, so Clam is popping for 7500 on those 4 enemies, so a total of 30k. Song of Days Past would have to pull out 120k which Clam is doing within 3.5 seconds while dealing more than 30k which Clam will do before the Waves of Days Past effect takes place, so Song of Days Past has to do as much if not more than 150k damage with 5 instances of flat dmg to do more than what Clam can do against 4 enemies in that same amount of time. That at least with Mika as the basis of a healer. Thus, Song of Days Past doesn't have the potential to beat Ocean Hued clam in AoE since Clam scales far more than Song against multiple enemies. If Song with good buffers for a Wanderer or Raiden for example did average of 21k damage increase per consumed instance, Song would need 8 flat dmg instances to beat out Clam against 4 enemies, even more if its 5 or more. So that just leaves Song of Days past as an option for Single Target to absorb buffs given to a hypercarry. Now that is where Song of Days Past is decent on average and good at best, well, at least under the assumption the hypercarry mainly has the carry as the damage source unlike a team with Kujou Sara or Albedo.
You should put this set on chevrous. Raiden, kujo, chevrous and Bennett. Im hitting much harder than kazauha could ever could! From 627k all the way to 729k with no food buffs on training guy you spar win inazuma. Though with song of days past raiden get an 11k damage increase to her big slash. Then get following attacks get some decent buffs. Try this out!
Honestly it depends if you can utilize the set in the right teams and with the right rotations. I'd say it's actually pretty worth it if you have the characters to use it that is. But that begs another question, what about Barbara?
Clam doesn't necessarily do more damage, though. 1) Characters can get some pretty high multipliers. A C2 Furina is 120% DMG added to your main DPS, for example. Then add on things from signature weapons, a cup, and so on. And then the crit damage on top of that. 2) It takes on the damage type of the character. This is the type likely to be debuffed. Clam is phys, and typically won't be debuffed. 3) Most healers can't come remotely close to capping Clam, so for most healers, Clam damage is garbage. 4) Because this is attached to an attack, it can be used at range. Clam spawns next to you. Of course, this set also has downsides: 1) It uses a charge per target hit, which means in AoE situations, most charges will be used up on targets where the damage just doesn't matter. 2) If the charge isn't used by a character with high DMG, high CrD, and maybe doing a melt/vape, the damage is trash. 3) You have to work that 6s delay into your rotation, whereas with Clam, you don't really care. But really, in most cases, both Clam and this set are inferior to other sets and not worth using.
Bennet Q venti Q navia Q+skill and next 2monster navia skill again, if your navia is good anyone can clear navia domain in avg 25 sec, ofc depends on your pc and ping but 25 sec is avg
Personally, anything not off-piece worthy is going into the strongbox.The set does have its uses, but on the whole, I just don't want to bother with the 6s delay between when the healing starts and then a DPS with high DMG, CrD, and maybe vape/melt needing to be on the field to use the charges.
The delay Is what makes It good tho, you people fail to realize that in those 6 seconds you're supposed to buff your main dps as Mich as possible so that he can use those stacks and get the most out of the set
If you do 60k normally and 75k with the healing sets buff 5 times then that's 75k my clam does atleast 25k on kokomi per bubble. Let's say it has 5 tick aswell but i think it can generate a bit more bubble i'm not sure but let be constant maybe enemies moved that's 125k. That's still more dmg and it's more constent and it isn't hard to set up. And this domain if you don't have navia just isn't worth your resin, it might sound tempting but let me tell you it won't help your dps bc your dps is already too good or this set isn't what they need rather their on set to be better c:
My thoughts are that this set performs better with hyperinvested carries and ST while clam does better with less investment for healers and AoE. Song of Days Past SCALES farther. A character like navia would make the flat dmg scale insanely high, especially with that 100% dmg increase on all 11 shots hitting.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 but the hardest content is abbys and that isn't that hard for most players. If you are struggling like i've said you shouldn't invest in such miner upgrade Also not every healer can use this set nor clam so ppl are better of with hp/atk sets depending on the healer
Shame this set only works in sims, it's impossible to quantify in actual gameplay. Plus, procs can be stolen, you can't tell when the effect is active, etc.
I tested it and find out that this set is scales of your crits. So your character main DPS with 100% crit rate and 200% will be beneficial for sub-dps-healer, because this healer equipping this set will benefit from stats on your DPS character. Its also scales how DMG% your character have, so ideal scenario is 250% Elemental DMG bonus with Furina is gonna greatly increase outcome from this set. It is increases with DEF% shred and elemental Resistance Shred. It is increases if in description of the character wrote quote "original dmg 130%, 150%, 200%" the dmg from this set will be increased by 130%,150%,200% respectively. Its not scales from talent level and their scales. It probably will also profit from Melt\Vaporize reactions as well. If we summarize all it will give Neuvilette in my example 1200*250%HydroDMG*160%Original Dmg*Def% Shred*Elemental Resistance Shred. So the most OP team for neuvilette will be Nahida, Jean, Furina (Excluding reactions, because they are proccing not every hit). Its 129.600 DMG Maximum from this set. Which is well, and better than Hued Clam, but i dont know is it worth it. Also team with such massive amount of investment (C1 Neuvilette, C3 Furina, Jean C0, Nahida C2 = 10 5 star characters) will probably deal on their own. If we replace Nahida, because we actually need healer, it will be 100k. Its good. But it works only with Furina, Original Damage scale, Shred Elemental DMG\DEF, high critstats.
Clam can trigger 3-4 times per rotation on someone like kokomi But I believe for baizhu this new set is actually better, because he only uses his E once per rotation anyways
@@spiritus_noctis yeah it seems better for some healers, Ive been using it on Mika for Eula and it's not.. the worst thing ever would rather it then slightly more healing from a different 2pc
mathematically New set can be buffed, and if it goes through enough buffs, it can definitely get higher, but it depends what kind of buffs you have. that 1200 can go through crit ratio, damage bonus, and resistances, while clam only uses that last multiplier. It's kind of like a really watered down yunjin/shenhe but more universal.
I’m interested in this set for Mika and it’s potential to buff my aloy even more. I prefer melt aloy but I’m open to different play styles with her as well.
This set would be monstrous on Kokomi in my opinion since she consistently heals in her burst. IMO she heals quicker than Baizhu does. This will give the buff a GREAT up time. This is of course with using her E since that will intercede on those five attacks. Dehya came to mind as well.
wait so it's shared and not individual like shenhe? man I thought it was trash, then it's great, then it's terrible because of sub dps. It's only good for hypercarry that have 0 outside damage and is all frontload damage..... I guess itto with a healer 4th character? I remember a video that used dori for itto because he has energy issues, so maybe that lol, mininal er itto with days past set dori
It would depend. For most attack scalers (and note that Itto is an attack scaler that converts def to atk at a favorable rate), Noblesse or Tenacity are better choices. So you'd want to use those first, and only then consider putting this set on a character. Of course, there are also various breakpoints.
@@Axterix13 I know itto is a Def converter but he's still a Def dps. One would think choices outside of attack would be better. Especially flat damage bonus on itto, gorou, zhongli, where he's the only one doing damage. (Well gorou and zhongli are still dangerous, and it invalidates albedo because he can steal it...)
its only for "when your active party member hits an opponent with a Normal Attack, Charged Attack, Plunging Attack, Elemental Skill, or Elemental Burst", Shenhe is shared, as in Kazuha if he has a cryo infusion off-field in his burst can steal icy quill procs. You did cook with Itto with a healer though with this set, for an atk buffing set to perform equally to this sets buffing capabilities for him (depending on the part of the kit) you would need a 85% atk buff for his burst CA at talent 10. and for someone like Neuvillette. You would need an HP% buffer that buffs HP% by about 61% for a CA at talent level 9. flat talent buffers like these lose value with higher MV talents, but for things like Normal attackers or fast skill users its adds up pretty well.
So, its basically a noblesse set for HP scalers? Ok then. It still looks underwhelming ngl like 5 hits shared between all characters? Most teams will have subdps' hitting all the time, I can imagine the stacks getting used by Fischl or Nahida before you can even hit with your carry...
Def scalers too. Oh and they don't share the hits. Only the active character's hits are buffed. If the buff is active and you switch to Fischl, yeah; she would consume a hit.
13:12 Navia’s set is also Ningguang’s BIS, since a lot of Husk does nothing for her and Archaic Petra 4 piece is just not good, while the attack and Geo buffs from Navia’s set works perfectly for her
and also since she is catalyst user, as long as someone is doing off field element application on enemy, she will nearly always gonna have the 4 piece buff completely
Do you really think there is still people who use ningguang 😂
That's actually really interesting, I hadn't thought of that. I think I'll try it on my Ningguang
there are a few but who else throws rocks at enemies while posing tho ?
@@yosuf2287 if a character is someone's favorite, or they just like their play style then of course people will be playing them.
I spent over 2000 resin for Navia and Chevy. Here's the drop rate I get- mostly Song artifact with DPS stats. If Nighttime piece drops it's with healer sets. Feels like this is intentionally stacked to drop like this as it's same thing with Clamshell/ Husk domain.
Soo many times I get clam set items with def stats (def sands with good double crit stats...)
Lol I am never farming that domain
thanks for the heads up, i was about to start farming for Navia's actual set. Navia will just have to do with the golden troupe set
this domain is so merciless, i have spent around 3k resin on it and i have 7 double crit rate flowers for Navia but not even 1 attack% sands. im not talking about good atk% sands. im talking about ANY atk% sands 😭 and dont even get me started on crit hats, i stopped believing that they even exist
I've been farming since navia's release and out of nighttime artifacts that are mostly defense and hp based I only got TWO decent artifacts
Yeah the set still isn't worth it, in practice it seems good but the overall damage it gives really is behind Clam. The 5 stacks are also consumed faster by the same attack when hitting more enemies wich makes the set really bad in AoE, Clam doesn't have this issue since it will deal it's dmg regardless
Not all characters can max clam.
I love your Jibanyan pfp
It's wayyy easier for a character to max this set, literally the only one who can't max this set with a healing build is C4 Gorou
Clam does rely on you being near the enemies so a Ganyu or a ranged distance Neuvillette or Lyney can't really make much use of Clam vs this set. As a rule of thumb, I'd say that this set is better tha clam for hypercarries in ST while Clam is better for more even damage distribution across many enemy headcounts.
This is really meant more for healers you wouldn't put in clam to begin with, like Diona. Clam is useless on her, 2p HP is redundant, and some of the teams you'd use her in already have a Nobless user which makes that set redundant on her. We've needed another healing set option outside of clam (useful mostly on Kokomi, Qiqi and Baihzu) and maidens (useful on no one) for a while. If you get a full set while farming for Navia then you might as well use it.
2:21 Bennett Jumpscare
He’s finally a 5 star and got a animation 😂
the thing about the new healing set is it functions like shenhe buff. if the character using the buff is really invested, it can outperform clam. The max buff can also be triggered twice per rotation with the right healer though this is really hard to calculate since the way the recording and buffing time works is kinda clunky. you have to time your support chars attacks in a 6 second window else you're wasting the stacks etc. its not like shenhe, you press E, you know you have the buff.
About the 6 seconds part is wrong.6 seconds is the time period to record the heal. The buff one only expire after 10 seconds or after 5 attacks. Since the set is can activate off field, it’s not you timed attacks in 6 seconds windo but 10.
@@huytruong6021 i think you misunderstood, what i meant by the "6s window" is if you spent too much time on your supports, you can prematurely use the stacks on your supports and not your DPS hence wasting your stacks since the stacks is for the whole team not individual characters.
We're both actually talking about the same thing. Other way to put it - since it's 6s to record, if you went past that 6s and you're still on your support, and you attack with that support, you will waste stacks.
I didn’t know Bennet has an Ult animation, guess they made him a 5 star now🤣🤣
This set gets better the more invested your other characters are. It's like a mini Shenhe buff.
Double edged sword, though. If your characters are good, then you don't need the buff, so why bother having to work your rotation around that 6s delay?
That's 6 sec delay isn't a big deal ,you could even use it to your advantage, for example,in the team Moga used , usually the rotation is furina E-Q, baizhu E-Q,kazuha E-Q, then neuvilate, in that 6 sec time you can use kazuha so once you reach neuvilate that 6 sec delay is just about finished.
You can't use it to your advantage. You don't gain an extra 6s of time because you're using the new set. The clock keeps ticking. You can work it into your rotation so that the potential cost is nullified, yes, but that isn't an advantage. And then something happens that throws off your rotation, like you have to dodge, you get knocked back, or whatever. Or some effect heals you, starting the timer at a different point, and now the timing is scuffed. And so on. Now, yes, these things happen with other things as well. But ask any Eula owner how much can change in six seconds ;)
Mind you, even if things get scuffed, it's still going to provide some extra damage. But that doesn't change that, the more invested you are, the less the extra damage matters, the more likely the set is a "win more", rather than a "more wins", while the downsides to the set remain the same.
@@Axterix13 oh no!! rotation has to changed so dps can get buff!!
with the logic that adjusting the rotation to fit in the songs of day past buff is stupid like you're bound to switch rotations to give buffs to dps anyways.
@@Axterix13 lol just use this set with an off field healer like baizhu and switch out other characters to do stuff. Though now it clearly that this set is for xianyun that the way she heal and and buff plunging attack that this set allow to buff only 5 attack during 10 seconds is make sense.
So in conclusion, this is a niche set work for only well with some character
The best part of song is that it doesn't have cooldown, do not missunderstad the 10 seconds after the 1st 6, that the time to use it not at a CD you have to waste. If u heal the set start to record for 6 seconds and if u heal again it start to record for other 6 seconds, but u still get the buff effect for the last one. So if u hit the 5 buffed attacks fast you can have them again really fast.
I wanted Baizhu to test it with his ult since he gets the 15K heal easily and during a long time in his ult, but i do not have him.
While it seems kinda good when you test it, it really has many downsides which could've easily been avoided.
The main issues being:
- Takes 6 seconds to even start buffing the character. (This is bad due to most healers being easily able to achieve the 15k beforehand, leaving a few seconds of absolutely nothing.)
- Has a low amount of procs, only being 5 and consuming them in AoE. (They will literally get depleted in an instant against a group of enemies. 5 procs only isn't a lot either, especially due to how low they made the actual added damage too.)
- Heal conversion to damage isn't that great, only being capped at 15k alongside only using 8% of it. (It's a low % to say the least, you don't really get a great base number.)
Other sets (clam) are just way more reliable than this one and just output more general damage. This is unfortunate since a new (and actually good) healing set would've been nice.
How I'd (personally) buff it:
- Allow the effect to start as soon as you heal the max amount the set can consume. (Allows for more fluid gameplay, especially with healers who have high capabilities)
- Increase the amount of procs to maybe 8, but they no longer get consumed in AoE situations. (Would make it better to use against grouped enemies for example, and just overall more procs would be beneficial)
- Increase the % to 10%. (A slight damage increase, not overboard if the other aspects were also buffed)
I'm just saying random stuff atp and people probably won't even read this but whatevs B). Not like the genshin devs listen to their community anyway 🤷♂.
It's also just funny that they nerfed this set in the beta too.. Like what..? It was weak from the get-go LMAO.
Thing is- other sets aren't particularly better. Clam can only outperform if you are using a teamwide healer, aren't in melee range with enemies, or simply can't heal enough for it to begin with. The other sets will rely on your characters scaling with atk. For anyone EM, HP, or def scaling, I'd suggest this set over likes of Noblesse or Tenacity.
Song of Days Past rather competes against Clam with buffs hyperfocused on your hypercarry, so like hyperbloom is centered around the electro trigger stacking up all the EM. The carry is the stat stick for the flat dmg buffs of 5 hits. A hyperinvested carry would gain akin to 30k damage from 5+ hits vs Clam where it may not be the best choice for characters that heal a 1/4th of what is needed to max out clam.
Nevertheless, Song of Days past does not have that ease of use you could have with Noblesse, ToM, or Clam, but becomes stronger the morve invested your "stat stick" carry is. It would work well on Itto or even navia. I think Chiori would be a great user of this set for Navia. That flat dmg would also consider the 200% of original dmg increase, Navia's atk buff from ascension, Furina's buffs, etc.
Song relies on buffs while Tenacity and Noblesse buffs and Ocean hued clam does fixed damage outside the realm of resistance shreds.
1. Doesn't takes 6 second to triggers. It means you have 6 seconds of heals up to 15k. If it's immediate like Jean and etc, It triggers instantly.
2. If you happens to use 2 healers, It may trigger seperately. Example Bennet and Chev. Not suggesting It.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 Clam is best for onfield Kokomi though, the set can deal 24k dmg to all enemies every 3 seconds while she's driving the Nilou bloom team.
@@chiyolate yes, but clam can only be maximized with Kokomi and Qiqi.
@@lacortina977
The first part is wrong, isnt it? The set description say the “the Yearning effect will be created for 6s” and then “When the duration expires, the Yearning effect will be transformed into the Waves of Days Past effect”
Nothing say if your healing record go 15k before 6s duration it will take the buff instantly.
"Math chain" is the best way I've heard anyone say "equation" ever.
LMAO
btw a great thing about running Baizhu with Furina is that he doesn't need to be on-field for any of Furina's burst duration.
You can use his skill and immediately burst with Furina and you will always be healed after she finishes the burst animation.
on its own probably not a great set
but considering that you get that buff on top of the main character's artifact buff, its always a bonus, probably more than ocean hued clam
2:06 21 seconds is wild
Thanks. I was wondering about this set and it's now very clear it won't work on my teams. Saves me quite a lot of farming
What people fail to realize is the set stacks with multiple healers wearing the set. Put 3 healers and a main, then watch the damage pile up. I haven't seen any TH-cam video talk about this..
Would be a waste to use multiple healers since only the healing stack not the dmg
Even with 3 healers your max buff is still 1200dmg 5 times every 6 sec
I love how the editor is doing the job properly😂😂😂😂
2:22 was probably a glitch when you switched to Bennett before triggering albedo ult
I think Neuvillet it's of the hardest test subjects, since his damages varies so much. With reactions and with how much health he has.
I cant believe i got full set for chevreuse just 2 days farming this domain HP artifacts might be easiest to get
Im excited to see how this set would work with Kuki. Im trying to get a full EM stats for this set.
I kinda doubt you'll get enough healing from full em. But it'll be something and not nothing I guess
@@Evitzeoshowerthoughts it's okay. EM vs HP Kuki healing has little difference because of her passive. Most players would prefer EM because you can deal more damage while maintaining a good amount of healing compared to HP that is only good on healing.
The healing set would be really good for Mika and his team, but it's still not worth farming if you already have Noblesse on him and don't wanna farm the geo set for Navia or Ninguang (potentially, Chiori too)
Tldw : if you dont have navia, dont do the domain like ever, ever
Or Ningguang or if you want to use Chiori on-field before C6 for some reason
I gave this set to my c6 Furina just because it looks perfect on her and I kinda don't regret it
The good think its resfresh twice per rotation, so it activates again with baizhu ult
Navia's set is bis for her in all cases, with mh or not. You can check KQM's calcs for further more info in their website. This set is worse than clam by quite alot in almost all cases except if its on a healer than cant use clam properly
i put the set on my furina.. having the set bonus and fanfare is so fun for dmg buffs
Ok, I wanted to give my two cents on the artifact set. This set competes with three generalist sets-
Ocean hued clam
Noblesse Oblige
Tenacity of the Millelith.
Two of these sets are catered to buffing the team, but hinges on the team scaling with atk. Thus, Noblesse and Tenacity don't work for HP scaler teams like a mono hydro or Neuvillette-Furina team.
Ocean Hued clam relies on 10k Hp a tick to get the most of it. It hinges on periodical team healing. Sometimes an instant teamwide nuke healer could use it and may beat out Song of Days Past. Ocean Hued Clam's advantage is AoE. It has high ease-of-use and scales higher the more enemies are in vicinity. Will pretty much cap at 30k to 33k (with superconduct) against bosses.
Song of Days Past works like Shenhe, and will take effect 6s after healing, which makes it less easy to use than the other three sets, but that comfort issue can be ignored or get used to. Now this set works better with character investment, primarily with hypercarries since they tend to absorb the brunt of buffs. We can take Wanderer for Xiao for example- Furina, Faruzan, and Xiao amplify different things in the formula- anemo res debuff, dmg bonus buff, attack buff, and crit dmg buff via Faruzan.
Say you are fighting 4 enemies and you have Clam on Mika, maxing out one instance of the bubble and hitting each enemy for 30k. That is 120k damage. Song of Days Past has to outdo 120k damage as 5 damage instances. So Song has to pull out an average of a 24k dmg increase per instance per enemy in 5 stacks. But not only that, but by the time Song is in effect, Mika would have healed 7500, so Clam is popping for 7500 on those 4 enemies, so a total of 30k. Song of Days Past would have to pull out 120k which Clam is doing within 3.5 seconds while dealing more than 30k which Clam will do before the Waves of Days Past effect takes place, so Song of Days Past has to do as much if not more than 150k damage with 5 instances of flat dmg to do more than what Clam can do against 4 enemies in that same amount of time. That at least with Mika as the basis of a healer.
Thus, Song of Days Past doesn't have the potential to beat Ocean Hued clam in AoE since Clam scales far more than Song against multiple enemies. If Song with good buffers for a Wanderer or Raiden for example did average of 21k damage increase per consumed instance, Song would need 8 flat dmg instances to beat out Clam against 4 enemies, even more if its 5 or more.
So that just leaves Song of Days past as an option for Single Target to absorb buffs given to a hypercarry. Now that is where Song of Days Past is decent on average and good at best, well, at least under the assumption the hypercarry mainly has the carry as the damage source unlike a team with Kujou Sara or Albedo.
You should put this set on chevrous. Raiden, kujo, chevrous and Bennett. Im hitting much harder than kazauha could ever could! From 627k all the way to 729k with no food buffs on training guy you spar win inazuma. Though with song of days past raiden get an 11k damage increase to her big slash. Then get following attacks get some decent buffs. Try this out!
Honestly it depends if you can utilize the set in the right teams and with the right rotations. I'd say it's actually pretty worth it if you have the characters to use it that is. But that begs another question, what about Barbara?
Wasn’t expecting an afk arena sponsor lol
I don't even know why they made this set considering clam does way more damage AND works in aoe...
Clam doesn't necessarily do more damage, though.
1) Characters can get some pretty high multipliers. A C2 Furina is 120% DMG added to your main DPS, for example. Then add on things from signature weapons, a cup, and so on. And then the crit damage on top of that.
2) It takes on the damage type of the character. This is the type likely to be debuffed. Clam is phys, and typically won't be debuffed.
3) Most healers can't come remotely close to capping Clam, so for most healers, Clam damage is garbage.
4) Because this is attached to an attack, it can be used at range. Clam spawns next to you.
Of course, this set also has downsides:
1) It uses a charge per target hit, which means in AoE situations, most charges will be used up on targets where the damage just doesn't matter.
2) If the charge isn't used by a character with high DMG, high CrD, and maybe doing a melt/vape, the damage is trash.
3) You have to work that 6s delay into your rotation, whereas with Clam, you don't really care.
But really, in most cases, both Clam and this set are inferior to other sets and not worth using.
@@Axterix13 nope
also theory also proves u wrong
Works well for neuv
Bennet Q venti Q navia Q+skill and next 2monster navia skill again, if your navia is good anyone can clear navia domain in avg 25 sec, ofc depends on your pc and ping but 25 sec is avg
Personally, anything not off-piece worthy is going into the strongbox.The set does have its uses, but on the whole, I just don't want to bother with the 6s delay between when the healing starts and then a DPS with high DMG, CrD, and maybe vape/melt needing to be on the field to use the charges.
The delay Is what makes It good tho, you people fail to realize that in those 6 seconds you're supposed to buff your main dps as Mich as possible so that he can use those stacks and get the most out of the set
It's really best with Lyney furina team
2:21 is when the magic happened lol
4:36 sayu
True power😍
yaoyao might good with that set. She heals really fast
Amber finally got her buff
That 4pc effect description is ridiculously long 💀
This set would be op if everyone in the party would get a buff for 5 hits, great if you also have multiple off field damage dealers
*Moga:* editor...cut this one out of the video...
*Editor:* does the exact opposite
(4:16)
Honestly, I’m not even interested in a set that has an effect description of a Wikipedia page
Hiiii :3
Edit: 8:46 just gonna leave this here
If you do 60k normally and 75k with the healing sets buff 5 times then that's 75k my clam does atleast 25k on kokomi per bubble. Let's say it has 5 tick aswell but i think it can generate a bit more bubble i'm not sure but let be constant maybe enemies moved that's 125k. That's still more dmg and it's more constent and it isn't hard to set up. And this domain if you don't have navia just isn't worth your resin, it might sound tempting but let me tell you it won't help your dps bc your dps is already too good or this set isn't what they need rather their on set to be better c:
My thoughts are that this set performs better with hyperinvested carries and ST while clam does better with less investment for healers and AoE. Song of Days Past SCALES farther. A character like navia would make the flat dmg scale insanely high, especially with that 100% dmg increase on all 11 shots hitting.
@@flamezforthegamez1056 but the hardest content is abbys and that isn't that hard for most players. If you are struggling like i've said you shouldn't invest in such miner upgrade
Also not every healer can use this set nor clam so ppl are better of with hp/atk sets depending on the healer
Probably never gonna do this domain ever again
Or you could just use Deepwood for Bloom damage lol
I spent over 6000 resin for Navia and got NOTHING, mostly energy recharge or flat substats. Gave up...
Oh i’m early! Hey moga are you intrested in trying noelle with furina with hunter set
Shame this set only works in sims, it's impossible to quantify in actual gameplay. Plus, procs can be stolen, you can't tell when the effect is active, etc.
is this useable for furina?
I tested it and find out that this set is scales of your crits. So your character main DPS with 100% crit rate and 200% will be beneficial for sub-dps-healer, because this healer equipping this set will benefit from stats on your DPS character. Its also scales how DMG% your character have, so ideal scenario is 250% Elemental DMG bonus with Furina is gonna greatly increase outcome from this set. It is increases with DEF% shred and elemental Resistance Shred. It is increases if in description of the character wrote quote "original dmg 130%, 150%, 200%" the dmg from this set will be increased by 130%,150%,200% respectively. Its not scales from talent level and their scales. It probably will also profit from Melt\Vaporize reactions as well. If we summarize all it will give Neuvilette in my example 1200*250%HydroDMG*160%Original Dmg*Def% Shred*Elemental Resistance Shred. So the most OP team for neuvilette will be Nahida, Jean, Furina (Excluding reactions, because they are proccing not every hit). Its 129.600 DMG Maximum from this set. Which is well, and better than Hued Clam, but i dont know is it worth it. Also team with such massive amount of investment (C1 Neuvilette, C3 Furina, Jean C0, Nahida C2 = 10 5 star characters) will probably deal on their own. If we replace Nahida, because we actually need healer, it will be 100k. Its good. But it works only with Furina, Original Damage scale, Shred Elemental DMG\DEF, high critstats.
wat is bro yapping
learn english or at least make it a readable format
This Domain annoys me a lot because I keep dropping artifacts on Furin
That would actually work really well on Baizhu for my Keqing team. It will take six seconds to reach rotation so...
this set was intended for cloud retainer...
2:21 lmao
Can't those extra damage be made with clam set instead?
Clam hits harder than I believe
Clam can trigger 3-4 times per rotation on someone like kokomi
But I believe for baizhu this new set is actually better, because he only uses his E once per rotation anyways
@@spiritus_noctis yeah it seems better for some healers, Ive been using it on Mika for Eula and it's not.. the worst thing ever would rather it then slightly more healing from a different 2pc
mathematically New set can be buffed, and if it goes through enough buffs, it can definitely get higher, but it depends what kind of buffs you have. that 1200 can go through crit ratio, damage bonus, and resistances, while clam only uses that last multiplier. It's kind of like a really watered down yunjin/shenhe but more universal.
THE BENNNEEET I CANTTT LMAOOO
why neuvilette only got 2 ticks buff? that's because furina minions stole it LMAO
the hell that ads
The Bennett glitch took me out lol
I believe the same thing happened to zy0x lol
@@_Lostintheskyalso with Zajeff
“you got games on your phone?”
I was thinking about this set since it released cuz I was thinking about using it on my koko
I’m interested in this set for Mika and it’s potential to buff my aloy even more. I prefer melt aloy but I’m open to different play styles with her as well.
I just want to say i respect you, brother
gl on your journey
wait, i just realised you were talking about a physical aloy, right ? Cause mika is a physical buffer as far as i remember ???
Hello Moga
Love ur vids
Does that artifact buff clorinde
I am going to claw my intestines out 3:32
I could literally spend forty years trying to get one Nighttime whispers artifact and when I finally get one it’s a healing bonus circlet….
@@GamiginUWUsad but true😔 i spent 4k+ resin on nighttime, i only got 1 good piece, all the others were horrible
i have way to many of them so it better be
I use to play AFK arena and I was very far in the game but it is too pay 2 win oriented.
Certainly explains the "bonuses". Just feathers to cover the rocks
This set would be monstrous on Kokomi in my opinion since she consistently heals in her burst. IMO she heals quicker than Baizhu does. This will give the buff a GREAT up time. This is of course with using her E since that will intercede on those five attacks. Dehya came to mind as well.
How do you have so much resin i need to know 😅
wait so it's shared and not individual like shenhe? man I thought it was trash, then it's great, then it's terrible because of sub dps. It's only good for hypercarry that have 0 outside damage and is all frontload damage..... I guess itto with a healer 4th character? I remember a video that used dori for itto because he has energy issues, so maybe that lol, mininal er itto with days past set dori
It would depend. For most attack scalers (and note that Itto is an attack scaler that converts def to atk at a favorable rate), Noblesse or Tenacity are better choices. So you'd want to use those first, and only then consider putting this set on a character. Of course, there are also various breakpoints.
@@Axterix13 I know itto is a Def converter but he's still a Def dps. One would think choices outside of attack would be better. Especially flat damage bonus on itto, gorou, zhongli, where he's the only one doing damage. (Well gorou and zhongli are still dangerous, and it invalidates albedo because he can steal it...)
its only for "when your active party member hits an opponent with a Normal Attack, Charged Attack, Plunging Attack, Elemental Skill, or Elemental Burst", Shenhe is shared, as in Kazuha if he has a cryo infusion off-field in his burst can steal icy quill procs.
You did cook with Itto with a healer though with this set, for an atk buffing set to perform equally to this sets buffing capabilities for him (depending on the part of the kit) you would need a 85% atk buff for his burst CA at talent 10.
and for someone like Neuvillette. You would need an HP% buffer that buffs HP% by about 61% for a CA at talent level 9.
flat talent buffers like these lose value with higher MV talents, but for things like Normal attackers or fast skill users its adds up pretty well.
@@Dnarte_ oh... Hehe might have overreacted.
And the itto team definitely isn't mine. Someone else made it, I just brought it up
Is SoDP good for c6 chevreuse?
Augh
Bless you
2:20 😂😂 lmao bennett
2:21 🤨
love the vids where Moga-chan at?
Usually only on streams
What is that Ghost thing Bunny? Name
This is a interesting healer set
Hi moga
is new artifact good for baizhu ??
Deepwood best option most of the time but this is good if you really don't care about dendro dmg in the team
I’m also farming this domain’s Songs of Days Past for Chevreuse and I JUST NEED at least ONE HP GOBLET 😭
Hello love ur videos
Can someone give me tips on how to get that much mora😂😂😂
Does it buff Furina?
It can, yes.
It doesn't do anything for her normally but it scales of furina's buffs sure
Still waiting why it's OP. 😂
It isn't... Holy another clueless take from our favorite guy, never change lol
would this be good with barbara?
This set is made for Xianyun. Her plunge attack buffs with this set are going to bring Dragonstrike Diluc into its own meta lmfaooo
it's because of the HP scaling on neuvillete, try another character that not scaling in HP and the effect of those artifacts are worthless
love moga but not another of his "tests" :
DF IS CYNO HOLDING D;
Does it work with jean?
It should
Sure but you lose VV which is a massive loss
Charlotte might be a better user
yes but 4pc vv is a lot better
Not reallyy worth it imo
hi
So, its basically a noblesse set for HP scalers? Ok then.
It still looks underwhelming ngl like 5 hits shared between all characters? Most teams will have subdps' hitting all the time, I can imagine the stacks getting used by Fischl or Nahida before you can even hit with your carry...
Def scalers too. Oh and they don't share the hits. Only the active character's hits are buffed. If the buff is active and you switch to Fischl, yeah; she would consume a hit.
tip rotation:
1 - furina E>Q
2 - kazuha E>Q
3 - baizhu E>Q
4 - Neuvi E>Q> Destruction
That set Def worth it for f2p just saying
Imagine reviewing a set a month later it drops.
Then where’s ur day one review buddy 🤡🤡
im sure he made this video later since he wanted to review the new characters first
@@-EternalComet- didn't said anything bad.
You actually have to farm a set before you can showcase it, you know...
@@spiritus_noctis fr
This set gives atk why r u testing on neuvellite
why am i so early
Mind u its just worse clam in every aspect imaginable