The Fixing of the Rabbinic Calendar

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  • @tkinnc1
    @tkinnc1 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Still waiting your take on the Essene calendar.

    • @jonahbigfish1889
      @jonahbigfish1889 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      THE "ZADOK" / Essene
      CALENDAR SEEMS TO BE ALL THE RAGE AMONG SOME MESSIANICS.
      The Zadokite calendar--there are several with some form of this name out there--usually refers to a version of the calendar kept by the Essenes and Zadokite priests who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Qumran desert.
      Some details vary, based on what extra-biblical work is at the heart of their modern reinterpretation of it, but generally speaking the calendar processes come out of 1 Enoch and Jubilees and a work known as the Zadokite fragment. They are solar based only and do not use the moon to point to the feasts within the proper season, which is a direct violation of the Scripture (Psalm 89:37, 104:19; Nehemiah 10:33).
      After the Maccabean Revolt ended, the victorious Hasmonean Jewish kingdom was established. The Hasmoneans were of Levite stock, but wanted to rule as both kings and priests, sometimes at the same time, which is another violation of Scripture. In order to do so, the Zadokites, priests praised by Ezekiel who served faithfully since David's time, were expelled from their posts and they fled into the desert where they joined with the Essenes. They are named for Zadok, the high priest who served both David and Solomon.
      The expulsion of the true priesthood in turn made these desert sectarians really hate Jerusalem, so they took some of the solar mechanisms that they used when in Jerusalem and expanded them into a fully exclusive solar calendar. They deliberately disobeyed Torah because they now believed they were the true Israel or "the sons of light" as they called themselves, and they wanted feasts of different days so no one would mistake them for the Jerusalem elite which they despised.
      In fact, the Talmud records an incident where the high priest in Jerusalem humiliated his counterpart at Qumran by forcing him to Jerusalem on what was the Zadokite Yom Kippur but just a regular day according to Jerusalem rules. The Zadokites in turn predicted Jerusalem would perish in a cataclysmic cosmic war either as being the sons of darkness or by the Romans (Kittim).
      Now in terms of the Zadokites and the Eternal Torah Calendar both share a 364 day mathematical year that was used to predict priestly cycles and balance to the longer solar year. The difference is their balancing mechanism has been lost in 1 Enoch and Jubilees 6 says they never intercalated, which is impossible and untrue.
      The restored original system balanced the 364 math year by a system of 7 leap weeks over a 40 year period, with other tweaks for 400 and 4,000 year periods of time.
      The bottom line is, for all that I have seen alleging to be Zadokite, their math doesn't work and their calendar will go out of date very quickly without intercalation. As far as I know, no one has restored the proper math according to the Scripture and it's all flash with little substance.

  • @IsmaelZaldivar-yq2fu
    @IsmaelZaldivar-yq2fu 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Gods calendar is meant to join him and his creation in an appointed time. The signals are the Sun and the Moon. Both equinoxes are the pesaj and the succot, and the fases of the moon are the resting days. The other feasts are depending on the Sun that is why you have to look on the Fruit of the land.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Nowhere in Scripture is the equinox referenced. The days are fixed to the sun by evening, and the year is fixed to the sun by the barley harvest. Barley and the spring equinox do not always agree, so many times only one of those methods can be right. The barley method is commanded in Scripture, and the equinox is nowhere to be found in the text. The rest of the feasts are determined by counting months or weeks from Pesach/Aviv, not by observing their associated harvest. They roughly coincide with the harvest because the weather determining the timing of the barley harvest will roughly determine the wheat and fall harvests as well.

    • @IsmaelZaldivar-yq2fu
      @IsmaelZaldivar-yq2fu 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@SepticFuddy spring AND fall arÃĐ Equinox time Pesaj Is on the full moon of the Equinox Time. Succot Is on the full moon of the Equinox time in fall. When YeshÚa was born his Star was in posiition in heaven
      ITS all about astronomic alignment , Sun, moon AND Stars in posiition,so all of Gods creation in heaven AND earth join to celebrate his feasts.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@IsmaelZaldivar-yq2fu None of that is in Scripture. The month of Aviv is the first month of the year is in Scripture. The 14th of the first month is Pesach is in Scripture. Counting from there to Shavuot is in Scripture. The 7th month holidays are calculated from the month of Aviv in scripture. None of that has anything to do with an equinox or our modern concepts of "spring" and "fall".
      The state of the moon determines the day the month starts. What state it's in by the day the feast arrives does not determine the count, though it will always be consistent every year. Yes Sukkot STARTS at the full moon and Pesach is the day before the full moon. Shavuot has nothing to do with the moon phase, Yom Teruah is on a new moon, and Yom Kippur is during the waxing crescent.
      Those facts are CONSEQUENCES of how the Biblical calendar is determined, they are NOT HOW you determine them. You count everything starting from the new moon of the month of Aviv, the Shabbat during Chag Hamatzot, and the new moon of the 7th month, period. That is what the Torah says.

  • @ednadiaz4193
    @ednadiaz4193 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Since there has been tampering with calendar that Israel used for Feasts of Yehovah Including Sabbath, why do we use the Gregorian calendar Saturday as the Shabbat? Why cant we and why haven't we returned to using the calendar of Yehovah including for our shabbats?

    • @ICU2B4UDO
      @ICU2B4UDO 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

      The days of the week haven't changed, just the way the months are calculated...Shabbat is still Saturday...

    • @pepepena1937
      @pepepena1937 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      ⁠@@ICU2B4UDO -“Shabbat still Saturday”- Actually Shabbat is a day of rest after working 6. In Israel Work/School week starts Sunday hence the Seventh day is Saturday. Most of the world the Work/School week starts on Monday hence the Seventh day is actually *SUNDAY* . *NOWHERE.* does it say work 5 (Mon-Friday) and rest on the Sixth

    • @ednadiaz4193
      @ednadiaz4193 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Most everyone believes that the Sabbath hasn't moved or changed in the Gregorian calendar. That's not totally true. Historical evidence is there to those who care to look for it. Since Hillel ii changing the way they set the months of the year when he started the fixed calendar the days have been disrupted. Even Bro. Nehemia has knowledge of this but even with the re established calendar the Shabbat isn't taken from the calendar of Yehovah but from following the Gregorian calendar. Which is very perplexing and absurd given that we want to follow Yehovahs instructions and not mans.

    • @ednadiaz4193
      @ednadiaz4193 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Just look at the calendar Michael Rood uses. July - August new moon appears to be on Monday (moon day) on Gregorian calendar but Shabbat falls on Saturday 6 days after not even the 7 the day if we counted the new moon sighting included. Something isn't correct and we simply ignore it or are oblivious of it.

    • @SepticFuddy
      @SepticFuddy 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@pepepena1937 Your argument is anachronistic. The Christian orthodoxies brag about "shifting" the Sabbath to the 1st day of the week from the 7th day on their own authority. Only very recently did they start trying to change Monday to be the first day of the week to make Sunday the 7th so people would ask less questions about why they're blatantly contradicting scripture. Jewish, Christian and Muslim traditions all point to Saturday as the 7th day of the week. In most languages, it's even called "Shabbat" (e.g. sÃĄbado in Spanish, sabato in Italian, etc.). Christianity and Islam openly and explicitly shifted importance from the 7th day to the 1st and 6th days respectively. Saturday is the correct Shabbat.