Pilot Report: Gulfstream G650
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2013
- Aviation Week's chief aircraft evaluation editor, Fred George, put Gulfstream's G650 through its paces in Savannah, Ga. To read the full aircraft evaluation go to www.aviationweek.com
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Fred is such a nice guy. I used to had him on facebook, and even though this is a man who has almost flown everything that's out there, he was always eager to answer us in a very kind and polite manner. A true professional. Nice review BTW
Incredible.
Thank you for posting this video.
Thank you so much for showing this aircraft. It is a great aircraft..
Beautiful private jet, the G650 has a lot to give yet. Big and comfortable, no words for it.
What a beautiful ship... absolutely gorgeous!! The last GS I was in was a IV, back in the 80s. I was invited by my dad's old copilot on a flight to Houston, returning that evening. What a thrill!! I can’t imagine what flying in the 650 is like.
awesome video !
Great video thanks !
This is awesome!
Its V1 decision speed not V2, I'm sure it was just a typo
Low weight, low drag tail-section proudly build by Fokker in Holland. The first jet with a top 10 hit! (Far East Movement - Like a G6! )
Absolutely unreal jet. I hope I get a chance to fly in one someday!
Very nice
Amazing plane! A time machine!
Hi. It is a very technical video but very nice to watch if you are interested in knowing more about the G650. It is amazing how the humans can produce something like that. This aircraft deserves (like the G550 or the Falcon 7X) a superb pilot. Please make more videos of this wonderful bird. Even if it lasts for one hour, I'll watch it. Best wishes to all.
Agreed. I wonder if it was an editing error as obviously the script was a later addition.
question,,, whats the pointy thing in front of new aircrafts like the one in the video?
man... i wish i was more mature as a child ... i would love to be a pilot for a commercial airplane..
@@peterr6988 well it only costs 30k
Do you think a G650 will be on display at Oshkosh? We pack up in a Cessna 172 and ate flying to Oshkosh tomorrow. You think they will have one on display and potentially open to go inside?
Aviation industry needs more commercial flight and equipment documentaries on TV channels like PBS and also series on NetFlix. Bringing the public more general aviation information will boost participation and sales.
so which button do they use to launch missiles?
Ok . great job with the video on the gulfstream g650. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am not a pilot but I am an aviation enthusiasts and did mr george say 7000 mile range? is not the correct answer supposed to be 7000 nautical miles.
If it is in the air or water, nautical is assumed.
Whats up with all the moment of the controls.
One of the nicest private jets to ever roll down a runway!
Is it has parachute for plane and individual ..??
I think he was referring to what appears to be a pitot tube extending far in front of a test aircraft...
What is the pilot looking thru while he flies? Is that a 'Heads-up' display?
if i a purchase one of these with my multi instrument will the factory teach/ rate me to fly it?
Whats that rod in the front?
Amazing the R/H seat guy had to tell the driver to put his hand on the wheel, obviously not too switched on there that driver!
I dont understand people complaining it has too much range and needs to be faster. Not many jets go above the speed of sound and they are generally not allowed to under 60 000 feet. Generally jets can't get up to 60 000 feet. If it had less range people would complain about that. Its a very fast jet that can go far. I won't complain if someone gives me one. The planes I flew generally could not go over 700 miles and I am in helicopters now. 110 knots and 300 miles. Would love to be up and above the crappy weather at mach 0.9 going to Manila in the cold weather. Stop whining over silly things in areas you have no expertise. Good job Gulfstream. Remember me at Christmas, Thanks.
Add to the mix, most of the "experts" are nothing more than FSX "pilots" and "TH-cam" "jet jocks" Personally, I have no need to travel to the other side of the planet on a regular basis... nor do I have the need to travel to the other side of the planet on a semi-regular basis... nor do I have the need to travel to the other side of the planet on an occasional basis..... nor do most (if not any) of the 650's critics.
true. if it were to go faster than mach 1, it would be a far more complex aircraft, variable exhaust nozzles and such. but i'm sure a supersonic business jet would have huge demand in the billionaire world.
No commercial or business jets go above the speed of sound.
@@williamboynton3335
If a need arose where I had to fly NYC - SYD or DEN - FRA, I'm calling UA, I'm not going to ride a GIV/V/650ER! That's a long flight for a passenger, I certainly would not want to sit up front for 8+ hours.
dpm1982 You think you’d have to sit up in a G650 the whole way? wtf?
Is it to late to change things in the 650?
GulfStream jets are awesome.
Lifting off at Echo taxiway makes it 1800 ft ground run great video overall.
I don't normally write comments about corrections but.. Hey AviationWeek I expected you guys/galls to be sharper on this. Saying and writing V2 decision speed 108 @ 1:28 was a mistake. The definition of LPV was also incorrect, should be Localizer Performance.. I know I'm not the first to recognize it and we all make mistakes, just wanted to help and point those out. Cool video otherwise!
OMG, I love this airplane.
Hmmm... I thought LPV stood for Localizer Performance with Vertical Guidance. I don't recall ever hearing Lateral Precision with Vertical Guidance. What's the difference?
Your right.
A tip : watch series on Flixzone. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Cade Moses yup, been using flixzone for since november myself :)
Hal, I watched this and thought you would be the guy to also see it.
Nice video but it would have been a lot more interesting if there were an embedded image from a chase plane perspective so viewers can see what each pilot maneuver caused the plane to do.
At 1:28 did he say V2 erroneously instead of V1?
Yes
Yes, he meant V1. He said Decision speed but put up V2 twice
isn't it in atlanta 1:03 ?
@2:27 "sporty acceleration with nearly 34,000 lbs of thrust" ....ya think?
G650 weighs 100,000 lbs, so it's not a crazy statement with the power/weight ratio.
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How much is this plane cost.?
and I have studied it in detail, and have found some areas that could be useful in making the G650's successor even better. I have enclosed a list of improvements I hope you and Gulfstrem will fine both interesting and helpful.
Make sure the list contains zero BS, and is factual and intelligently put together in words an engineer will understand and appreciate. Remember these guys are professional plane designers and builders, so they will smell BS from a mile off. Good luck.
Re-uploaded re-upload?
Who cares?? This beauty is always worth a second look??
The heads up display is a really good feature. IMO, all planes, regardless of age, should be outfitted with the HUD.
it really bothers me that the synthetic view in PFD (plus the background music) while taking off at rwy 19 7:00 is not on the centerline. Anyway, magnificent bird and delightful video!
jin clemen Because the pilots sits off-center in the cockpit, the centerline wouldn't actually be centered up from the pilot's perspective..
I noticed the pilot was using his hand to cover up some of the glare from the sun. Isn't there a more high tech way to overcome this problem?
there is a green glare shield in the jet but he's just not using it
its on the rear cockpit window and it can slide to where necessary
one of my g650s came with sunglasses as a promotional item to help sell the plane.
I have one of these. Lol, in my dream last night.
737 seats?
Being FBW how will this bird hold up to an EMP Attack, will the pilot lose control of the ship?
Will the FBW systems be shielded from and EMP strike?
Shielding hahahah. ...omg
Quite a few more toys than the B748 that I fly!
How is it possible for V2 to be below Vr
+Essa Swedish Typo...obviously it isn't. They meant V1.
that's what I thought because V2 = VMCA 1.10 and who would lift an airplane below safe one engine operating speed lol
Great catch- he goofed, decision speed is V1 but he misspoke
+Essa Swedish G650 does have the potential of V1 being below VMCG. In those cases flaps 10 are used.
all aircrafts do have the potential, V1 starts from VMCG all the way to VMBE , and most jets on dry mass has the potential to fly below VMCG but not practiced ;)
Lucky dudes! :)
4:38 - lucky those throttles aren't 'really' connected to the engines directly but via a FADEC system, otherwise those engines would be telling the pilot to 'F*ck off!'
My jaw dropped.
i called them, and they said yes.
John Travolta really loves flying these. He also has one.
Well, i'll never own one but, Thanks to Pacmin for making the 1/40 scale models. They provide daily visual inspiration to my aristt workspace.
PS: playing the lottery on a more frequent basis!
Hi guys I was wondering how much one of these birds cost?
65 million new. 2 year wait. .70 mill used no waiting. Would you like to buy mine?
I wish I can take a ride in it.
The guy on the left seat didn’t even have his hands on the yoke even we’ll after adding TO Thrust and Auto throttle took over. The Gulfstream test pilot had to remind him for him to put his hands on the yoke. Not good. For stall recovery, the same guy still holds the yoke full aft while adding Max thrust.
I've experienced several rides in Gulfstream aircraft but never in the pilot's seat. I'm struck by how fixated this left-seater was on the HUD. Never a glance out the window to his left! Yes the HUD is helpful but also stay aware of potentially conflicting traffic in lateral airspace.
I'm typed on the 650 and my comments were included in major discussions in class. I just don't understand where Gulfstream comes up with the phrase, "advanced features". The Gulfstream Advisory Group was lacking in their 'outside' knowledge when designing the systems in this jet.
Can one pilot fly it safely, a very experiewnced & trained pilot ?
I wish
Nice Video, however for your voice over work, you need to sound proof the room in which your doing your read. I am jealous by the way that I'm not flying this bird
That jet is just about perfect. If it only had bigger engines.
+Donovan Moore They're quite large, with respect to their application. If anything, it can be said that the airplane is overpowered!
well, okay.. you sold me.. I'll take two.
***** LOL! You'll have to get in line. I want one too, but I can wait, oh , at least ten years. Gives me enough time to scrape the money together.
Jake looked nervous
Amazing Plane,I would love to take a ride. Beautiful !!!!!!
Yeah, I’ll take 5 please
King of the Hill...no contest!....and USA made....Nice!
Dear Santa,
im still 2 birthday presents short from my dad. i know what im going to ask when im turning 20
me likes dem Gulfstreams.
Hate the yoke! Can't wait for the new Gulfstream with sidestick
"Advanced features"..., a clock that has no GPS input, no auto fuel transfer, Ground spoilers that require one throttle advanced in order to remain in the down/stowed position, auto throttles that cannot be armed unless power is applied, no auto brake, (but they are testing it on the G280), the overhead panel is a dogs breakfast and don't get me started on the TROV... In their quest for a common type rating with the G550, Gulfstream sadly missed the mark.
I guess not worries about break cooling on this aircraft ?
pwhoar look at all that glass. and the hud! peter jackson's just taken delivery of one
Why no sidesticks and why RR engines given shabby performance on A380?
LOL. A380 engines have nothing to do with these engines, and control yoke is a better solution to flight control than multiple side sticks for various reasons. Check out an AF447 documentary if you want to know more.
LOL RedRider, obviously the A380 engines are different than the smaller ones on the G650, BUT the hapless, shoddy workmanship and design can be attributed to the same Company! I am aware of AF447 and the right seat pilot's side stick over riding the left seat guy trying to correct the stall. That being said, why is Gulfstream claiming that side sticks are such a wonderful solution for their G500/600? In any event, referring to the G650, why the need for that little bit of extra speed?..and what is the significant offsetting cost of attaining that performance
Edited...
Good question about the sidestick on the G500/600. I can only guess that with the G500/600 coming out later they decided to change to the sidestick configuration. It does give the pilots more room for meals especially. (I originally wrote the G650 came out later).
As for that little bit of extra speed, keep in mind buyers of the G650 are going to be the richest people in the world. It can be a di*k size contest for some of them while others can actually take advantage of the speed and justify the extra expense. They can buy a perfectly good, new, biz jet for $10M or less but the G650 is selling starting ay $64.5M so a few extra dollars in gas isn't going to bother them.
And I agree that RR reputation has suffered and for quite a while. They also cost Lockheed L-1011 sales years ago when the UK government had to bail them out. MD sold many more DC-10 jets and many of them crashed. You could say RR poor management indirectly caused many of those deaths. And then of course the A380 engine failure where the crew did a spectacular job of bringing that super jumbo home in one piece.
As the British say, cheers!
@@genie0390 Because Gulfstream versions are active sidesticks, where they are electronically linked and allow for force feedback, unlike with Airbus sidestick.
Hint: For each item on your list, you have to explain in detail what problem you see and perceive as a problem, and then give an intellegent detailed explanation on how it could be rectified. i.e. Problem, and then solution. Good luck.
it would have been good if the figures were quoted in real world metric, seeing as that's what the entire wold (with a few un-important exceptions uses . . .
TRPG pilot They don’t quote metric because the aviation industry uses imperial units
The pilot was nervous!
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my right ear is lonely
OK, well here's what you do, you have probably 5 years to wait till the 650 successor is planned, called the 750, SO, make up your list in light of further study of the 650, and over the years tweak and refine it, and then when you hear rumors that the next Gulfstream is being designed, send Gulfstream, your list with a polite cover and complementary letter. Address it to the CEO, he's the head honcho at Gulfstream, and say something along the lines of the 650 is a wonderful plane, ...
Way too late although there is a rumor about auto brake being a retro fit...
if you are a pilot of small prop or jet then you have to worry about everythin'
but if you app rwy seating in 744 then you do not a give a damn.. about gust 19/36......... from various directions ;) Live :)
Why don't you write an intelligent and polite letter to Gulfstream, and give then a list on where IYO they are failing.
Like a g6
it's called a nose boom, collects data on test flights
Lineage 1000
Keep it in the air for a few years work out the bugs then maybe I would be interested.
its a unicorn plane
The last thing we need is a bunch of mini concordes cruising the airways.
You lucky 🍀 🐕 dog
USA
I don't understand why any new FBW aircraft still incorporate the big yoke. It seems such a waste of space. I think Airbus, Bombardier, Falcon 7x, etc have the right idea. "Sidestick" is the way to go.
You can make better force feedback on a yoke vs a side sick. Which is why the 777 has a yoke.
Maybe. Even so, is it necessary?
Blonds or Redheads, take your pick. When the lights go out, does it really matter?
Sorry, yokes are for aircraft. Joysticks are for video games.
And the cockpit just looks so wrong with a joystick.
Sidestick is the future, you either adapt or perish; like Kodak, they didn't believe in digital cameras and went bankrupt.
No not flare and touch down, flare and float.....