EMERGENCY GEAR UP LANDING with ATC - Daytona Beach Int'l (Piper Aztec)
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- Yesterday (30 March 2017) a Piper PA-23 Aztec (N229DS) reported having landing gear issues while on approach into the Daytona Beach Int'l Airport (KDAB). The pilot declared emergency and made several attempts to extend the landing gear but without any success. They managed to retract all of the gear back up at which point they determined a gear-up landing would be their best option. ATC included via LiveATC.net. Thanks for watching!
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"That was money"... Seriously the fastest plane exit I've ever seen! Great job fellas!
I totally heard "that was butter" XD
Gearless landings especially on and aircraft of the configuration can start a fire and hit the fuel tank so you wanna get out fast because if it goes it’s gonna be an inferno pretty fast.
Well Done to the pic
Yup, once you are safely down and stopped, get far away from the aircraft as quickly as possible
@@matthewyglesias1508 haha yeah
Imagine if AF95 was ATC, "Sounds like a personal problem", "Clear to blog"
*Someone puts the mic in his mouth and then talks very loud*
ear cancer, i'm going to need you to proceed to alt f4 and uninstall
Take your comment straight to the blogspot. I'll go find you the link.
@@pathevermore3683 ey yo genm 😉
@lost warrior. that is an affirmative on the deep cut tokusatsu reference, captain.
"And there is a hot air balloon doing 200 knots."
*400
@@sona3981 500
lol
🤣
thats called "cutting the ropes"
"Uh, 9DS, we're gonna try to pull some Gs and knock this gear down."
How casual can you be in such a situation?
thought the same he sounded like it's something that happens every day
@@schmilew1230 I mean it's not actually that scary until you actually land. they could have flown for 4 more hours without a care in the world.
@@cdoesrcher The point really is that you should never panic in these situations, just keep a level head and calm mindset to solve the problem, screaming and crying and being stressed out will just make everything worse.
@@raionshishi8290 ................uh yeah I was a firefighter for 12 years and been a cop for 3 years.......I kind of already know that. not sure why you tagged me anyways.
@@cdoesrcher I was just adding on to your point, no need to act out or be confused, you should be able to tell what i meant with your experience. Come on now.
Strange, tower isn't an eight year old kid.
cambo1200 yea very strange..
why is that funny AND DONT WOOOOSH ME
@@thegoldennuggetyt because tower is always an eight year old kid
???
@@thegoldennuggetyt FSX Steam Edition joke
I love pilot traffic, especially when they're completely deadpan during emergencies. Panic helps nobody.
it is so helpful and I got all the respect for them
yeah its really amazing to see how calm they act
no women lol
I believe he meant in this case specifically. Calm down bro.
Fragtastic d
"Aztec 229DS we're having a *DEEP BREATH* we're gonna declare an emergency."
That's gold.
Requesting mayday.
@@ryank1273 denied
@@livewellwitheds6885 Roger that, proceeding to go into the *_drink_*
I'm genuinely impressed (but not at all surprised) at how calm everyone involved is in this situation, and how prepared airport operations were for this scenario. Fire and EMS were there before they had even planned on when they were going to land. Professional all around.
I mean thats's their job but the pilot ? He was so, so calm and handled it soooo well.
Also not surprised.
Nothing about the plane's flying controllability was compromised. They were just gonna have a crappy landing.
Which sucks. But I'll take crappy landings over crappy flying any time. 👌
that pilot deserves a cold beer
And some hydraulic fluid
imabeapirate I get the joke. Good one mate
More like he already had one then on his approach he was like, Hey buddy hold my beer...
QUINN Isntmyname Ohh...and make sure it doesn't hit your face.
Mister Chief more like a cold 30 pack
Everytime i see that kind of video it reminds me how professional, cold blooded and awesome are the people of the beautifull world of aviation.
you haven't met enough of them then.... lol. myself and my buddies are cold blooded, but not at all professional or awesome..
We are trained to do just that..
Professionalism when it's required, sure, but Kennedy Steve has some words for you.
I believed the word you were looking for is "cool headed"
@@nathanp5877 Correct, and beautiful with one L
Steam edition version:
"Daytona tower, 229DS, I'm just gonna go ahead and ah, power up and barrel right into the tower..."
In all seriousness, though, it hurts to see that nice aircraft belly in, but that was a 15/10 emergency landing. If you could make butter out of silicone and infuse it with 10w30, it still wouldn't be as smooth as that landing!
@John Doe lol
Ur PFP won't fool me
1:14 There’s my plane that passed right in front of the camera. Me and my brother Flew from Claxton, GA(KCWV) to Daytona for a day and we were leaving Daytona when we heard this.
We sold that plane for an 172RG(Retractable Gear) Callsign N9583B.
Nice plane reveal, do a road rebeal next.
Yeah go ahead and blog it there boss
@@randomentertainment8927 gonna do that now lol
When the pilot said they were going to evacuate immediately upon landing, I don't think ATC understood they were gonna be already home having a beer and some pizza on the couch replicating the flight in FSX before the plane was even at a complete stop. Damn son, they were GONE!!
Lmaoooo. They were out of there. Ain’t fucking around with fires
You know these guys have a lot of experience because it sounded like a shitty day in the office rather than a panic frenzy. That was an amazing landing.
"We have a mirror it's not down"
Oml so passive aggressive I love it. Sounds exactly like fsx
Well the controller was being annoying not letting him land when he needed to.
@@kishascape what? He was trying to help make absolutely sure the gear wasnt down. The crew of the aircraft didnt want to land at that moment anyway, they wanted the speedway hold to try and troubleshoot. And the window is only for the nose gear. The mains could have come down while the nose stayed up. The tower wanted them to do a low approach to see if they were down or up. I had a similar problem, the other way around. I took off and my nose gear didnt come up, but the mains did. The only thing you have to tell if your gear us up or down are the window and three lights. If the lights arent working, you have no way to visually check gear, so you ask the tower to.
@@kishascape the controller did not decline landing clearance at all
@@kishascape the controller wanted to make sure nothing else was hanging down and another visual assessment is always good. They had plenty of fuel so it’s better to get a full picture
Legend has it that control tower is still checking for landing gears.
That isn't funny.
Not even close
And you commented 4 years after posting.
Loser.
Didn't he know he has to press 'g'? Amateurs...
lool
Shut up
bUt tHiS iS rEaL LiFe
Shift+Papa
@@fruszn r/woosh
Didn't realize this was an airforceproud95 video until the end because I wasn't laughing - nice catch tho, glad everyone was okay
Yeah I thought this was by VASAviation or H89SA until I looked again.
haha I stopped the video early, I didn't realize until this comment. Was like wow VASAvaiation using video video footage, and why do I get the feeling the comments are full of kids?
orangecode Airforceproud95 is capable of serious videos, even though he has a reputation for being a troll. that is what I like about him. been watching his videos since 2012 and have seen a lot of his older videos. I will keep watching him until the end.
orangecode Airforceproud95 is capable of serious videos, even though he has a reputation for being a troll. that is what I like about him. been watching his videos since 2012 and have seen a lot of his older videos. I will keep watching him until the end.
Right I had to scroll back up to see who uploaded it
Seriously buttered the bread on that landing, props for that pilot! Plus, staying calm in an emergency situation, that should be every pilot's way of handling it. Great video AFP95!
One of the few times that I’d try pressing Alt+F4
I'm sorry it took 2 months to get a thumbs up - but here ya go
Wow. The level of professionalism from everyone. Pilot, atc, mechanic. This can be used as a perfect example of proper emergency procedures
Last Shadow not really but....okay
Last Shadow Well of course it is going to be professional, it isn’t a flight sim session
WHAT A LANDING! Hats off to that pilot. What a great job!
“Were Gina pull some Gs to knock this heat down” that’s the kinda pilot I have full confidence in haha
It has worked in some cases lol
If theres no fluid in the system, the gear will swing around like a pendulum. So putting extra G weight on it sometimes works.
@@davecrupel2817 if they're swinging like that won't they buckle under the force of landing?
@@hadhamalnam Good point.
@@hadhamalnam I always thought that when landing gear goes down there's a latch that engages to prevent it from collapsing again. I could be wrong
@@onefastslimjim oh yeah you're right, I forgot about the locking mechanism
"before you come in for good?" I get what he meant but phrasing man lol
Booiiiiii they buttered the bread better than my grandma butters toast
a-ffirm
Dan Valdivia blog it
Cool dude, sounds like a personal problems.
what's butter the bread mean?
@@presbarkeep smooth landing
"And uh, Daytona tower, Aztec 229DS our gear will come down requesting a low speed pass, we're going to have make an emergency landing"
"229DS, that sounds like a personal problem. Daytona Tower is gonna ask that you BLOG IT. Over."
The calmness of the pilot and air traffic control is always amazing no panic. Staying calm and letting all that training take over and successful landing wow great job pilots
I am an air traffic controller in south korea and was really impressed by this vedio. It was very helpful to me. Thank you so much for this video and I subscribed also :)
Technique: 10/10
Approach: 10/10
Centerline: 8/10
Overall 9.3/10
Glad they were safe crazy how I was watching this on the local Orlando news Last night you had much better coverage than they did lmao.
Ryan lewis they had no landing gear...
How could you even do the centerline? There’s no damn gear!
R/Wooosh
He's joking people..
Still better than a Ryanair landing, even whithout landing gears.
Wow thats crazy! What graphic mod is this? it looks real!
Cody Sweiss Real live 1080p 80fps
Wow must be a really big download. Where is the link?
Cody Sweiss you can find it at dankmemes.gov
Majestic Tiger I will check that out!
At least there were no AirforceOne interruptions 😂
It's a pleasure listening to, and watching, experienced pilots handle a tuff situation. They make it look easy...to fly another day.
This is amazing to watch. Keeping cool under pressure is why these scenarios are practiced so much during training. Good to see everything went ok.
0:05 Seems to be a personal problem.
cookies ?
Priceless XD
This needs more attention
Tower: "Yeah go ahead and cancel that while we drink some beer let me know if you want confirmation that your plane is disabled"
Pilot: "uhhh... we know it's not down"
Tower: blog it...
"we'll check the gear for you"
"we know the gear's not down"
"maintain 1000ft, we'll check the gear"
"we have a mirror, we know it's not down"
"roger that, we'll uhh..just check the gear then"
He landed with no gear better than most pilots with auto landing
the bulges under the engines help act like skids, keeps all the balance on the plane to that small surface area, presuming the nose doesnt dig in you can just skate around and be OK. that's why they were sure to orient the props flat so they wouldnt upset the skid.
Excellent dead stick landing with no gear! Impressive professionalism by everyone in the towers and emergency crews.👌
Well done on procedure and execution, Sir. I don't think I have ever seen a pilot shutdown the engines so early on approach. "Tower: This will be a fullstop landing!"
it Pissed me off when the props stop vertically and not horizontally
Just hit the starter momentarily to get 'em horizontal.
thats what i was thinking
Who cares? It's a POS Aztec that probably got written off. Insurance companies own the engines and props (and won't lower your premiums for 'saving' them) and shutting them down combined with the gear retracted created that float fest on round out. I'd have kept them running and bent the shit out of them.
Did not appear to be of concern as neither the pilot or tower mentioned that. More important to concentrate on the landing than potentially saving a prop and damaging an engine.
I find it amusing that the Aztec manual actually recommends that when a gear up landing must be performed that the flaps be retracted and engines should be stopped and then the pilot should bump the starter to get the props horizontal. In addition in theory you can land the aztec gear up and not damage the aircraft at all with the exception of the gear doors and the plane will settle back on the tail when stopped.
I saw an aztec several years ago where the pilot thought he had an unsafe gear condition and stopped the engines on short final, ended up landing very slightly short, folded the gear rearward and ended up with back injuries all because he "wanted to save the engines and props". I say let the insurance company have the plane!
That calmness is what makes a good pilot. Confidence in your abilities to stay calm in a no gear situation.
ATC Controller and the Pilot both deserve credit for not only the quality of the landing but for staying calm and having great communication skills.
I was in Daytona helping my son move and I watched this happen from a couple of mile away. Also got to see the first launch of a reused falcon 9 first stage I believe the same day.
Any landing you can walk, or run, away from is a great landing.
Where’s Sean Connery btw??
He lands better without gear than I do with gear.
He lands better without gear than i do in grand theft auto
Lol 😂
This emergency landing was spectacular ! What a great job by the pilots
Thank you guys for all the appreciation. I was the pilot of this plane
I'm always impressed with how calm pilots are during such stressful times.
I have never seen more competence during a G.A. emergency before. Nicely done by the pilot(s) and controllers.
You know what they say "Any landing you can run away from is a good landing.""
Straight pro's all around. That was textbook by everyone.
One of the dopest things about pilots and atc are how calm they are in tense situations.
THAT WAS BUTTER
Smoothest landing you'll ever make. Wheels up
Very comforting to hear the ATC give very pleasing assurance to the Captain
Wow, FSX got an amazing graphics update! Real walking people and birds?
(COPYPASTA)
FS2020 in a nutshell
Who're
Fantastic coordination between the Pilots and ATC. All procedures were textbook, and were executed in a calm and collected manner. There is a reason why Flight School is so rigorous. Good job.
that was totally awesome, the conversation,demeanor and the landing- gear or no gear .
pilot took the hand he was dealt and made 4 aces from losing hand. well done.
When they said that maintenance wanted them to make a low pass i was thinking "what are they gonna do? Jump up there and pull it down?" But their idea of looking at it to see what they could figure out was a much better idea
Not just what they can do but to assess the status. Gear could be partially down (without the crew being aware), which would've been a disaster for a wheels up landing. Better make sure that when you're coming in for good, you've got everything in order.
And in any case a group of extra eye sets watching for the plane from outside can never hurt.
You probably saw a video of them doing exactly that ... speeding in a pickup truck, under the low flying plan and shaking the gear down by hand.
I bet the pilot went straight to the blog after this
Props to the pilot, especially for the fact that such a small plane didn't hit the props. Good job!
SMOOTH execution, and MAN did they get out of that airplane in a HURRY. Nice job, all. Hopefully as minimal damage as possible, which I imagine is still a good bit to that fuse bottom. I know they typically recommend AGAINST stopping and feathering props, but I think I still would, and it looks like he did a great job with it. If you can save TWO engines, that mitigates a lot of cost. Still, unless you were PERFECTLY comfortable with it, as this guy obviously was, I think I'd keep 'em spinnin. This pilot was one COOL dude all through this.
That was very textbook. Excellent job.
Now that is how to butter the bread! Nice catch AFP95!
"I forgot my gopro bro"
4:52 Pretty sure I just watched the end of an LAPD chase. Did they bring out the K9 unit to catch them?
Good comms, help from ATC (surprise!) And chopped the engines to save the engines and props, well done.
but did they blog it?
probably
The pilot has his nokia out on the blog page saying HOLY FUCKING SHIT IM GOING DIE
They even wrote a book.
How do you get the conversation they had with the pilot?
Have a radio on that frequency and record that
*edit or read the discription, liveatc.net
do people even read the desc?
Colin Vos Nope.
Vysair yes... otherwise I didn't say it...
Vysair it says it clearly
I’m watching and I was like “huh flight sim sounds a little weird” lol
I literally thought this was a sim until I saw his face. The comms were so calm and the landing so good it didn't seem real. Hats off to the pilot!
I can find audio of events like this happening all over youtube, but seeing the footage alongside this was fascinating.
i hear slew mode would have helped them land safely...
truly impressive making a normal landing can be hard enough but to make a successful and smooth crash landing is very impressive in my opinion
Stellar work by the pilot and the ground crew. That was awesome!
HOLD MY BEER...I GOT THIS.... I believe the passenger might need a change of shorts.... LOL
Looks like you had a great vantage point for the landing! ( And sorry for ruining your shot at 2:26 )
Flight Following lol thats actually great xd
Cool meeting place
Flight Following yes but more uneven meaning it could cause the plane to tip But any way a spark shouldn’t be a issuebecause unless jet fuel becomes a fine mist it won’t burn but it becomes extremely flammable when it’s in a fine mist I say jet fuel because that is what most turbo prop aircraft run on
Those guys were s art as hell for jumping out so quickly!
Once had to manually lower the gear in a C-130. Having the wheel well open to the cabin was freaky, but gear came down and locked successfully. At least we had the option of doing that!
Second time I've watched this landing. Brilliant job guys, and I mean everyone. Pilot, controller, fire and rescue. So clinical. Very impressive
Fantastic job by everyone, especially the pilot. However WTF was tower thinking in letting a 757 take off seconds before the light aircraft with an emergency is about to cut power and belly plow it in?? Caution wake turbulence my ass! What did he think the engineless gearless emergency aircraft was going to be able to do in the event the ginormous wake turbulence from a 757 hit it?? Here's an idea, hold the damned 757 a few minutes or offer the Aztec another low pass so you can arrange to stop departures for a few minutes.
Kathryn Slye Maybe they should of diverted the Aztec to a nearby airport instead of STOPPING ALL TRAFFIC. Pretty dumb in my opinion.
OD786 Dro but not every airport or even field has such good rescue equipment as such a big one
I think the thinking was that with the hydraulic leak they could lose access to flaps or elevators, and they would rather them just set it down nearby.
loss of hydraulics would not cause the elevators to lose function in the the Piper as all controls are cabled to the yoke and rudder. Flaps in an older Piper are controlled by a lever on the floor in between the front seats, though I am not sure with this aircraft so they could be hydraulic. Most hydraulic landing gear systems are hydraulic up and gravity down after releasing the locks. If the locks don't release though then its gear up time. Stopping the engines was a good idea as well since that way you don't have to tear down the motors after a prop strike. As for not diverting the Piper to another airport that is stupid, as an aircraft with an emergency has right of way over all other aircraft. The 757 could have been taxing out and waiting already. Noticed how the Piper made multiple flyovers. Technically the airport would still be open. But as soon as the plane belly landed then the runways were closed. After initial response the airport could allow ATC to open unaffected runways back up to traffic. The caution wake turbulence call is require anytime a B757 takes off or lands as it has nasty wake turbulence.
I don't know the details of this incident but they usually say that if you're landing within 3 minutes of the other plane. So it probably wasn't a big deal.
Yup, good job. Thanks for getting the comms traffic on also. Digging your vids. Much love from Scotland!!!!
Wow when did the graphics get so good in FSX?
What an awesome pilot, so calm and professional. Well done. A Step ahead of the game is always good.
I swear on everything my brother is the one who flew that plane before you guys, he flew it for Air America aerial survey and the mechanic use to put a two liter bottle in it with hydraulic fluid because how much fluid it leaked. Small world
Dude nicely documented!
I cannot fathom what gut wrenching feeling it must be to *actually* pull those mixture levers back. "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. I just want to announce that this landing is now ASSURED..."
I just realized at the end that Airforceproud whose the one who has this video lol i thought its just an emergency landing video in other channelz xD
Davin Playz I thought it was Vas aviation or something
"That was money" 5:07 XD
They hightailed it outa that plane like they were in a Michael Bay movie :D
To the great work of going through your GUMP emergency Checklist by the Pilot of the Piper Aztec and being able to keep your eyes and feet and hands on the controls and following ATC instructions to engine fuel off engine shutdown to feathered both props . Fantastic job
I love how entertainment and media portraits ANY emergency as an absolutely apocalyptic scenario, and this guy it’s just like “Bruh, freaking gear. Aigh let’s butter.”
Well, that's some bread that I'd consider buttered!
3:56 those 757's with their wake turbulence!
That pilot is the coolest pilot I have ever heard... Good for him...
This pilot set an example for all pilots. His calm demeanor was impressive in itself, then he did a nice job bringing it down. Just glade they are ok. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
“Hold on one second i forgot my water bottle”
"That was butter" It trully was
I was on short final for 16 when the pilot was saying his landing plan - I was i think the second to last plane to land before they started turning people away. Got my plan tied down on the ramp just in time to watch him put it down safely from the ramp. Excellent job on his part
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Westjet: "Socal Approach, WestJet 1422, with you at 12,000' and 40 DME."
Socal Approach: "1422, cross 30 DME at and maintain 8000'."
Westjet: "Socal Approach, 1422 is unable that descent rate."
Socal Approach: "What's the matter 1422? Don't you have speed brakes?"
Westjet: "Yup. But they're for my mistakes. Not yours."
"Oh shit we have no landing gear, we about to crash, shit shit i'm gonna die, where's my fucking phone, i need to erase my search history, no no no i'm too young to die" That's me if i was the pilot. Not calm as him but close enough i think.
The guy with the butter call at 4:58 is the real MVP.
The pilot was so calm when I wouldn't of been. What a good job between ATC and the pilot.