Summary for ADHD folks - [00:00] 👋 Introduction to the Episode and Nick Wignall - Introduction of psychologist Nick Wignall and the topic of insomnia. - Mention of Nick's influence on the host's book title and philosophy on insomnia. - [00:53] 🧠 Discussion on Emotional Intelligence and Insomnia - Discussion of an article on emotional intelligence by Nick Wignall. - How traits of emotional intelligence can aid in general peace of mind and better sleep. - [02:05]📜 Emotions as Messengers, Not Threats - Emphasizing the importance of not viewing emotions as threats. - Explaining how avoiding emotions can make them more intense and problematic. - [04:24] 🗣 Speaking About Emotions in Plain Language - Importance of expressing emotions in simple terms. - Encouraging honest and straightforward communication about feelings. - [07:59] 💭 Distinguishing Emotions from Triggering Thoughts - Differentiating between emotions and the thoughts that provoke them. - Strategies for managing worry thoughts to reduce resulting anxiety. - [11:12]🧐 Listening to Emotions but Not Trusting Them Blindly - Balancing listening to emotions while not following them unquestioningly. - Contextualizing this approach for managing insomnia. - [15:21] 🔄 Accepting Emotions and Controlling Behavior - The significance of accepting emotions but controlling one's response. - Application of this concept in managing insomnia and daily life challenges. - [20:56]🤝 Nick Wignall's Career Transition and Final Remarks - Discussion about Nick Wignall's shift from clinical practice to business consulting. - Conclusion of the interview and final thoughts.
Hi Daniel, I had insomnia 1.5 years ago and your channel really helped me a lot and I recovered in a few months. Lately, my anxiety spiked up due to other stuff in life and insomnia came back with it, so this episode really helps. Thanks!
Hi Daniel. Thanks for a great program. This episode was really a door opener for me. I have had insomnia for three years now and in the last 2 years I have slept very well for periods but every now and then, especially in connection with holidays or trips I have relapsed. The relapses have always been associated with very poor sleep and, above all, that I have completely lost confidence that I can sleep at all. It often takes me at least a week to get back on track. When I think of my insomnia as a phobia and that I can distance myself from my thoughts and feelings, I have suddenly found tools to be able to deal with these slumps. A key is to be able to accept getting insomnia again and that when it comes, don't fight against it, but just observe thoughts and feelings, i.e. don't start analyzing and trying to solve what can't be solved. In the past, I have tried to understand my feelings, or been afraid that the feelings will come and that I cannot control them.
Totally resonated with me, being in very similar situation. Although entire knowledge is there and long weeks of great sleep, sometimes out of the blue there is sleepless night caused maybe with something random but brain automatically translates that to hipnic jerk or heart beating, and puff the sleep is gone for entire night..donno about you, but seems to me that acceptance that this will occasionally come will be forever or at least years more, seems like a some solution thatmay bring peace. Cheers, thanks for sharing
Hi Daniel. Besides the thought process there is the physical feeling resulted from anxiety and is easier to notice it and to observe it and to befriend/accept/not reacting/ to it. The thought that produce anxiety is short but the body reaction stay longer. I have been into your school for some time but hasn’t write anything yet. Planing to do it soon. This conversation with the psychologist very interesting. Thank you.
Oh, dear.. I didn’t finish! So sorry! I meant to say that I sent this onto two people who don’t struggle with insomnia but do with anxiety and their emotions. Thank you both so much for this very informative talk and I learned so much about emotions/ thoughts and can apply this to my sleep issues.
Daniel i have sleep phobia, and as you said in the video you should exposure like other phobia by sleeping less. my inner self is okay with little sleep -( around 3 hours) but what i fear is zero sleep for days. Should i deliberately go 1-2 days without sleep for exposure which is my biggest fear?
Hi Rishav, great question, if you browse the channel you’ll find a video where I talk about the problems with traditional exposure therapy - manufacturing the threat to deliberately expose ourselves, I think when what we fear happens, that’s our chance for true exposure
Hi Daniel, I'm tapering off zopiclone after 4+months, usually take one half of 7 MG pill, going down to 1/3 to 1/4 pill works sometimes , trying to get off them . I viewed a good number of your videos and have been off for 3 days . Those 3 nights I have had zero sleep . I don't even feel the least bit sleepy or tired day or night . It sounds crazy what should I do? Bert
Hi Bert, Hang in there and of course no medical advice here, check with your doctor whenever concerned. Insomnia insight #365 can be helpful as it talks about never feeling sleepy. If you check the talking insomnia episode with Nick we talk about rebound insomnia and that can also really help. Hang in there!
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 hi Daniel, this morning makes 5 nights 0 sleep , should I go back on zopiclone? I am desperate for sleep, I tried doing something pleasurable , like watching TV before bed and after a few hours again , still no sleep or sleepiness, Bert
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 HI Daniel #365 is Swiss awakenings and WY you wake up the same time every day. Can you send me a link? Have you ever had clients with 0 sleep for 5 or more days? Will sleep come soon to me ? I'm desperate and if I have to go any more nights without any sleep I will go crazy! Bert
Hi Bert, No medical advice here but you know, I’d say understanding why we are experiencing something really helps. Here’s how I explain rebound insomnia: A lot of people try to come off medication but end up going back on it. This really happens mostly because they tried to come off. What do I mean by that? Well I mean we considered it a trial! When we come off a medication or a sleeping pill and think of it as an experiment, we think “Let me see if I can sleep without this” then we have started a trial. And whenever we are doing something as a trial, we want to keep track of how well we are doing. So we go to bed without taking the pill, and wonder what will happen. After 30 minutes we become a little bit worried, after one hour we think “oh my gosh I’m not gonna sleep at all.” But we decide to keep going and we sleep a little bit at night. But we decide to keep going with the trial. After four sleepless nights, having tried to go without the pill, we decide it’s not working and we go back on the pill. Then it seems for sure like we cannot sleep without it. But what actually happened is that it was the act of self monitoring and the trialing/experimenting that was the reason we didn’t sleep! Now when we start to understand, then we see that it doesn’t matter if we take a pill or not any given night, it’s about education. When we see that we are safe and nothing strange or unusual is happening, then peaceful sleep happen by itself.
Hi. I’ve been listening to a bunch of videos and searching for it it’s ok to take a unisom or a melatonin If there’s a big day the next day. I don’t look to see if it’s working . It does almost always help. I don’t know how to not fear not sleeping if a big day follows because I’m non functional without sleep. It might lower my sleep confidence but it doesn’t make me analyze if it’s working or not. My anxiety about not sleeping has greatly improved since reading your book but I still wake up worried and panicked every night usually with mom guilt. Thank you for your help!
Hi Heidi, so glad things are easier and you know it’s like with parental guilt… what we do actually has little impact on what our children’s life is like… they just need to feel loved and safe, yet we have all these ideas (I’m not doing enough of this… I should be more like that bla bla bla) and we look for some mythical ideal way. Same thing when it comes to ourselves, when we look at taking some unison or melatonin before a big day as self care, seeing that it doesn’t matter as long as we love ourselves and don’t judge ourselves… then there’s no struggle
During most of this episode, my brain deployed emotions of happiness and elation. I "trust" those emotions. During the parts about sleep restriction/compression etc and manipulating time in bed to produce better quality sleep, my brain deployed emotions of disgust and anger; I also "trust" these emotions. 😆 Not to be rude to anyone, but more just brutally honest lol. Still loved the video.
They’re never wrong those emotions and thanks for the support. I’ve learned sooo much from Nick and you know, he said after the show that he sees that it can be nice to have a niche whereas he’s a “generalist” if you will, teaching on all kinds of topics. So yes sometimes we see things in a different way when we only focus a bit more closely somewhere. Cheers!
Do you like our way of teaching? Would you want to unpause your life, sleep well and feel like yourself again? We can help! For personal coaching, head over to www.thesleepcoachschool.com and find an option that fits you. We look forward to seeing you on the inside!
Summary for ADHD folks
- [00:00] 👋 Introduction to the Episode and Nick Wignall
- Introduction of psychologist Nick Wignall and the topic of insomnia.
- Mention of Nick's influence on the host's book title and philosophy on insomnia.
- [00:53] 🧠 Discussion on Emotional Intelligence and Insomnia
- Discussion of an article on emotional intelligence by Nick Wignall.
- How traits of emotional intelligence can aid in general peace of mind and better sleep.
- [02:05]📜 Emotions as Messengers, Not Threats
- Emphasizing the importance of not viewing emotions as threats.
- Explaining how avoiding emotions can make them more intense and problematic.
- [04:24] 🗣 Speaking About Emotions in Plain Language
- Importance of expressing emotions in simple terms.
- Encouraging honest and straightforward communication about feelings.
- [07:59] 💭 Distinguishing Emotions from Triggering Thoughts
- Differentiating between emotions and the thoughts that provoke them.
- Strategies for managing worry thoughts to reduce resulting anxiety.
- [11:12]🧐 Listening to Emotions but Not Trusting Them Blindly
- Balancing listening to emotions while not following them unquestioningly.
- Contextualizing this approach for managing insomnia.
- [15:21] 🔄 Accepting Emotions and Controlling Behavior
- The significance of accepting emotions but controlling one's response.
- Application of this concept in managing insomnia and daily life challenges.
- [20:56]🤝 Nick Wignall's Career Transition and Final Remarks
- Discussion about Nick Wignall's shift from clinical practice to business consulting.
- Conclusion of the interview and final thoughts.
Oh my goodness this was incredible 😯🙏! Thanks so much for this amazing summary, I pinned your comment so many can benefit!
Hi Daniel, I had insomnia 1.5 years ago and your channel really helped me a lot and I recovered in a few months. Lately, my anxiety spiked up due to other stuff in life and insomnia came back with it, so this episode really helps. Thanks!
So glad it was timely Aaron, thanks for being in touch and glad the channel helped
Thank you for this interview. 🙏 I will check out Nick’s website for sure. 😊
Hi Daniel. Thanks for a great program. This episode was really a door opener for me. I have had insomnia for three years now and in the last 2 years I have slept very well for periods but every now and then, especially in connection with holidays or trips I have relapsed. The relapses have always been associated with very poor sleep and, above all, that I have completely lost confidence that I can sleep at all. It often takes me at least a week to get back on track. When I think of my insomnia as a phobia and that I can distance myself from my thoughts and feelings, I have suddenly found tools to be able to deal with these slumps. A key is to be able to accept getting insomnia again and that when it comes, don't fight against it, but just observe thoughts and feelings, i.e. don't start analyzing and trying to solve what can't be solved. In the past, I have tried to understand my feelings, or been afraid that the feelings will come and that I cannot control them.
So glad Amanda that this way to look at things make sense and make things easier. All thanks to your willingness to learn and do this inner work 🙂
Totally resonated with me, being in very similar situation. Although entire knowledge is there and long weeks of great sleep, sometimes out of the blue there is sleepless night caused maybe with something random but brain automatically translates that to hipnic jerk or heart beating, and puff the sleep is gone for entire night..donno about you, but seems to me that acceptance that this will occasionally come will be forever or at least years more, seems like a some solution thatmay bring peace. Cheers, thanks for sharing
So glad it did Kadir, and what you said here …. Yes I think it’s the way 🙂
Our emotions are like our parents. We can love them, and we should. But we shouldn’t blindly trust everything they say. 😮
This episode was so good, thank you Daniel
So glad you found it! Nick writes a newsletter and on medium if you’d like to learn more from him!
Hey, Daniel.. this was so great! I have to admit I filled up four notebook pages writing down everything Nick said! And I sent this onto with
Hi Daniel. Besides the thought process there is the physical feeling resulted from anxiety and is easier to notice it and to observe it and to befriend/accept/not reacting/ to it. The thought that produce anxiety is short but the body reaction stay longer. I have been into your school for some time but hasn’t write anything yet. Planing to do it soon. This conversation with the psychologist very interesting. Thank you.
Glad you liked the conversation and - look forward to getting a chance to talk with you in the program 🙂
Oh, dear.. I didn’t finish! So sorry! I meant to say that I sent this onto two people who don’t struggle with insomnia but do with anxiety and their emotions. Thank you both so much for this very informative talk and I learned so much about emotions/ thoughts and can apply this to my sleep issues.
So glad it was helpful Jeanie 🙂 And there’s plenty more for them on Nicks website if they’d like to learn more
Excellent❤
Daniel i have sleep phobia, and as you said in the video you should exposure like other phobia by sleeping less. my inner self is okay with little sleep -( around 3 hours) but what i fear is zero sleep for days. Should i deliberately go 1-2 days without sleep for exposure which is my biggest fear?
Hi Rishav, great question, if you browse the channel you’ll find a video where I talk about the problems with traditional exposure therapy - manufacturing the threat to deliberately expose ourselves, I think when what we fear happens, that’s our chance for true exposure
Hi Daniel, I'm tapering off zopiclone after 4+months, usually take one half of 7 MG pill, going down to 1/3 to 1/4 pill works sometimes , trying to get off them . I viewed a good number of your videos and have been off for 3 days . Those 3 nights I have had zero sleep .
I don't even feel the least bit sleepy or tired day or night . It sounds crazy what should I do?
Bert
Hi Bert,
Hang in there and of course no medical advice here, check with your doctor whenever concerned.
Insomnia insight #365 can be helpful as it talks about never feeling sleepy.
If you check the talking insomnia episode with Nick we talk about rebound insomnia and that can also really help.
Hang in there!
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 hi Daniel, this morning makes 5 nights 0 sleep , should I go back on zopiclone? I am desperate for sleep, I tried doing something pleasurable , like watching TV before bed and after a few hours again , still no sleep or sleepiness, Bert
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 HI Daniel #365 is Swiss awakenings and WY you wake up the same time every day. Can you send me a link?
Have you ever had clients with 0 sleep for 5 or more days?
Will sleep come soon to me ? I'm desperate and if I have to go any more nights without any sleep I will go crazy!
Bert
Hi Bert,
No medical advice here but you know, I’d say understanding why we are experiencing something really helps.
Here’s how I explain rebound insomnia:
A lot of people try to come off medication but end up going back on it. This really happens mostly because they tried to come off. What do I mean by that? Well I mean we considered it a trial!
When we come off a medication or a sleeping pill and think of it as an experiment, we think “Let me see if I can sleep without this” then we have started a trial. And whenever we are doing something as a trial, we want to keep track of how well we are doing.
So we go to bed without taking the pill, and wonder what will happen. After 30 minutes we become a little bit worried, after one hour we think “oh my gosh I’m not gonna sleep at all.” But we decide to keep going and we sleep a little bit at night. But we decide to keep going with the trial.
After four sleepless nights, having tried to go without the pill, we decide it’s not working and we go back on the pill. Then it seems for sure like we cannot sleep without it.
But what actually happened is that it was the act of self monitoring and the trialing/experimenting that was the reason we didn’t sleep!
Now when we start to understand, then we see that it doesn’t matter if we take a pill or not any given night, it’s about education.
When we see that we are safe and nothing strange or unusual is happening, then peaceful sleep happen by itself.
Oh sorry it’s 365!
Hi. I’ve been listening to a bunch of videos and searching for it it’s ok to take a unisom or a melatonin If there’s a big day the next day. I don’t look to see if it’s working . It does almost always help. I don’t know how to not fear not sleeping if a big day follows because I’m non functional without sleep. It might lower my sleep confidence but it doesn’t make me analyze if it’s working or not. My anxiety about not sleeping has greatly improved since reading your book but I still wake up worried and panicked every night usually with mom guilt. Thank you for your help!
Hi Heidi, so glad things are easier and you know it’s like with parental guilt… what we do actually has little impact on what our children’s life is like… they just need to feel loved and safe, yet we have all these ideas (I’m not doing enough of this… I should be more like that bla bla bla) and we look for some mythical ideal way.
Same thing when it comes to ourselves, when we look at taking some unison or melatonin before a big day as self care, seeing that it doesn’t matter as long as we love ourselves and don’t judge ourselves… then there’s no struggle
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 oh thank you so much!! I really appreciate your words and your response!
Anytime!
During most of this episode, my brain deployed emotions of happiness and elation. I "trust" those emotions.
During the parts about sleep restriction/compression etc and manipulating time in bed to produce better quality sleep, my brain deployed emotions of disgust and anger; I also "trust" these emotions. 😆
Not to be rude to anyone, but more just brutally honest lol. Still loved the video.
They’re never wrong those emotions and thanks for the support. I’ve learned sooo much from Nick and you know, he said after the show that he sees that it can be nice to have a niche whereas he’s a “generalist” if you will, teaching on all kinds of topics. So yes sometimes we see things in a different way when we only focus a bit more closely somewhere. Cheers!
I loved the video too. But I’m gonna check out both episode #365 and episode #356 just to find out what Swiss awakenings are.😊
Is there a possibility that your brain is damaged after severe anxiety and you’re unable to recover?
No, that is impossible, anxiety does not cause damage to the brain.
Do you like our way of teaching? Would you want to unpause your life, sleep well and feel like yourself again?
We can help!
For personal coaching, head over to www.thesleepcoachschool.com and find an option that fits you.
We look forward to seeing you on the inside!