15:52 "If you're not super close yet, I would wait for death." Taken out of context, I was laughing on the floor at this line. Had to do a double take when I heard it.
I had massive usage out of Jubilee in legendary with her stun and blind. She’s still used in mutant for raids. Certainly not as essential as Omega Red, Rogue and MLF were but still worthwhile. Also deathpool being able to nuke stuff was pretty useful for me in cosmic. I used City : Scarlet Spider, OG Spidey, Ghost Spider, Squirrel Girl, Shang Chi Global : Doom, Cap Sam, Maria, Sharon, Sabretooth Cosmic : Deathpool, Kestrel, Ikaris, Sersi, T’Challa Legendary : MLF, Omega Red, Rogue, Jubilee, Shuri
Just finalized my City team with last gear piece and mine is exactly what yours is! Thanks for this content this is a nice change of pace for those of us who are still struggling on this. Grinding for those elusive uniques.
I totally agree with you to use most bang for your buck characters. I'm still stuck at city because I don't use web warriors or the 2 new warriors in raids. Wish spider Weaver was city
Great video, but imo as someone who took Cloak into dd5 I think hes a is a big no no as of now. Both him and Dazzler sit on my roster useless now that I have MLF and Eternals/DP for Doom raids. I know Eternals are basically impossible to unlock for new players, but it's still something to think about when gearing Cloak
That's why Dagger is not on the list as well. I think Cloak is still acceptable at this stage at least until some other characters become farmable, he still serves a use and is not as expensive to gear as his counterpart Dagger (who often needs both to be good).
Sunfire is fantastic with his special ability because it gives offense up to everyone not just unlimited X-men and I still prefer Shuri for her deflect and healing. As for cosmic I like the Mighty Thor & Thor combo because she’ll charge his AOE faster and while T’challa is a great choice without Yondu to steal positive effects and summons I can’t see it
Planning on going into DD4 very soon, So far have MLF, Omega Red, and Kestrel. Cosmic will be very tough for me without either of the Eternals, wondering if Emma is someone you’d be fine bringing to 15 since I use her in arena daily
She is very expensive. She is a kit-based character and as long as you have her passive at a minimum of 4, she is serving her purpose. If you are close to gt 15 on her, go ahead but I'd save that mutant gear for all the other mutants you need to gear up. Side note, if you are using the Speedternals on defense for Arena your only reason to build her up would be to avoid dying to a double tap from Ikaris. In order for that to be the case, you need to get Loki up as Well. Not a good reason to level her up since Loki will trigger the double tap anyways if he isn't built.
Not even a year in player currently in DD4 working on DD5 soon lineup: City: Ghost Spider, Scarlet Spider, OG Spider, Shang Chi, Miles ( i cant justify my limited resources on she hulk atm) Global: Cap Sam, Sharon, Maria Hill (DD4), Wong, Hulk, Agatha/Gambit/Spider Weaver (DD5) Cosmic: Ikaris, Sersi, Kestrel, Dr. Strange Heartless, Tchalla Legendary: MLF, Red Hulk, Iron Man (DD4), Omega Red, Rogue, Death horseman (DD5)
Hmmm . so i just came back to game , I done dd4 - But what i m thinking as everyone saying go for horsemen . Why priorotize their team over your raids teams you use every day ? Isnt having a better raid team help your alliance instead of chasing apocalypse that will release ( i dont know when ) and what it ll be his use , we dont know . Just asking ...as i m getting at the point i need to decide who to g16 . I m missing rogue / red hulk as i was nt playing in their events .
For legendary, MLF Rogue Omega Red Doc Oc and Jubilee 1 shot the first two nodes and finished the final node in 3 attacks on my first run. I can only imagine having Red Hulk would be a further improvement.
I ended up taking bishop to cosmic. I know that he is expensive with unique sets, and Axmen may be on their way out, but he doesn't share mini uniques with anyone important and I was struggling with Doom 3 and the G16 on him helped out. He is not very good in DD and dies almost right away, but he will tank a few shots.
If you can unlock all of rebirth I would just build them, if you want better information I would suggest joining my discord, there are many people who can help with low level stuff
i have mlf, rogue and or at gt16 for dd5 ready to go... who are the CHEAPEST legendaries to gear up.. i have all characters, just dont want to waste future resources when the 3 i have are going to blast right through the last 3 nodes... im guessing doc oc is cheap because hes been around for a long time... im talking bottom of the barrel cheapest... thanks boilon...
I wouldn't do Valkyrie over Thor or T'Challa personally. Yes she's not mystic but her use beyond DD5 is limited, Thor is like the main player of the war scourge at least.
i liked og spiderman vs scarlet spider. i thought his kit was at least equal if not better and my og was 7 yellow 5 red at the time vs 4/4 so it just made sense.
I think Phoenix is still good choice to whittle down Legendary nodes, if your Horsemen are small in stars or you can't be bothered to think how to attack smartly.
It is pretty ridiculous how long they've held these characters, I will be addressing this in a separate video tomorrow actually. Sadly though, I just would still hold off building too many non relevant end game characters as replacements.
I've started city with anti-venom as my healer instead of squirrel Girl. I'm not impressed. But I'll probably finish before I can get squirrel Girl geared up.
my baby account is almost level 69 and i think im like 26/100, so yeah not a lot of shards and can sympathize. Outside the table I mentioned a few extra cosmic choices but realistically I don't like the idea of taking characters that high that will just drop off.
are sure that, investing all our resources into unlocking Apocalypse, is the best option ? we don't know his stats, skills or areas of the game he'll play. he's months away, and I don't have to unlock him right away, when he comes out. I hate investing into bad characters, and some of these tier 1 and 2, are not good for my account. if I wait another year, maybe there's more gold and gear available, or maybe I'll quit the game, and don't care.
I mean through your logic you’re just kicking that can down the road lol. You could wait for better solid stand alone characters like the eternals or kestrel or whatever but who knows how long you’d be waiting I guess.
@@Boilon ok, thanks, I won’t level them too much then. I’m currently building my team for DD3 and I think they’ll be good for that - and those guys are keeping me in the 100-150 range for arena so they’re valuable to me. And I only have 13 ikarus shards so that ain’t happening 😂
Saw some other CC who recommended OG instead of Scarlet (after using Scarlet and not being impressed) I don't know if it matters much. I never use OG standalone and I was able to gear scarlet first.
I too vouch for OG spidey being better than Scarlet. Maybe on node 4 Scarlet is slightly more useful, but 5 and 6 OG shines much brighter than Scarlet ever could.
Too many endgame characters that are absolutely necessary use mystic gear. She is good but not worth building if you haven't already. Think about it... The entire dark hold team, ikaris and sersi plus spider weaver now.
i took dagger without cloak.. also with shang, og spider man, spider gwen and squirrel girl.. got me through.. definitely not a one shot but it worked if you have patience.. i struggled more with global 2 for some reason.. about to start cosmic tomorrow morning, and i have 3 out of 5 legendaries ready to go... cant wait to unlock him.. hopefully within 2 weeks..
@@salbec143 It is an option. People recommend cloak over dagger due to all the negative effects and spreading them with Ghost Spider and prolonging them if you bring Scarlet. But OG Spiderman seems to be better with Ghost Spider
@@ofnazareth9376 hi I am doing dd3 first run and at lvl 78 I am bringing the cosmic nodes to an end and I built up cloak and dagger, og spider man, ghost spider and Shang should it be just a walk in the park for city or is it a challenge
Deathpool probably would be better than Surfer, did I not mention any of these 2 in my video? I actually use Surfer just now on my baby account, but he's not really DD5 material which is what the table represents. But, in the mean time either of those are acceptable for the DD3/4 range I think, just not ideal.
@@timothytice4625 if you have Deathpool, shes ok to level up to G15 85 if you don't have an Ikaris. Im sure Sersi shouldn't be an issue to get because she is a 45 shard unlock and hits hard and survives regardless of how many yellow stars you have on her. Tchalla and Kestrel would be a priority for gold and training materials plus sbc's over Silver surfer if you want to buy yourself time to see if by chance you unlock Ikaris. Silver Surfer is definitely ok to get to G12 level 70 and I would gear up my 4 other cosmic characters to see where I am at first before leveling SS (buying time to unlock Ikaris hopefully) to go into Dark Dimension 3 or 4. He will never be an option for DD5 at this point. Im in the same boat as you on my baby account and only have 47 shards for Ikaris and just recently unlocked deathpool.
15:52 "If you're not super close yet, I would wait for death." Taken out of context, I was laughing on the floor at this line. Had to do a double take when I heard it.
I don't write scripts so... but, patience is also really key in MSF
@@Boilon that definition is me man ı am totaly free to play and patient player
I had massive usage out of Jubilee in legendary with her stun and blind. She’s still used in mutant for raids. Certainly not as essential as Omega Red, Rogue and MLF were but still worthwhile. Also deathpool being able to nuke stuff was pretty useful for me in cosmic.
I used
City : Scarlet Spider, OG Spidey, Ghost Spider, Squirrel Girl, Shang Chi
Global : Doom, Cap Sam, Maria, Sharon, Sabretooth
Cosmic : Deathpool, Kestrel, Ikaris, Sersi, T’Challa
Legendary : MLF, Omega Red, Rogue, Jubilee, Shuri
One shotted each legendary node with Omega Red, Rogue, Morgan, Shuri and Red Hulk
Just finalized my City team with last gear piece and mine is exactly what yours is! Thanks for this content this is a nice change of pace for those of us who are still struggling on this. Grinding for those elusive uniques.
Glad you enjoy it! Good luck on the grind!
So, I just beat cosmic. I’m gonna start working on SG, GS, Shang, SS and Cloak. What positioning did you use when attacking?
Unless there is a tank I don't think it really matters on their positioning. None of those have abilities that suggest adjacent allies either?
I totally agree with you to use most bang for your buck characters. I'm still stuck at city because I don't use web warriors or the 2 new warriors in raids. Wish spider Weaver was city
Great video, but imo as someone who took Cloak into dd5 I think hes a is a big no no as of now. Both him and Dazzler sit on my roster useless now that I have MLF and Eternals/DP for Doom raids.
I know Eternals are basically impossible to unlock for new players, but it's still something to think about when gearing Cloak
That's why Dagger is not on the list as well. I think Cloak is still acceptable at this stage at least until some other characters become farmable, he still serves a use and is not as expensive to gear as his counterpart Dagger (who often needs both to be good).
What about viv for global? Unused unique, Fairly cheap, tech gear and on a major raid team.
Nice. I was just thinking about getting myself in place for my first 5 run.
”I would wait for death, which is about two months away..” i feel u Boilon, i really do.
Seems like Boilon dont like christmas i guess😂
Actually im not a big holiday person lol, but also in MSF we know thats when they take their 2 month vacation RIP
Sunfire is fantastic with his special ability because it gives offense up to everyone not just unlimited X-men and I still prefer Shuri for her deflect and healing. As for cosmic I like the Mighty Thor & Thor combo because she’ll charge his AOE faster and while T’challa is a great choice without Yondu to steal positive effects and summons I can’t see it
I don’t like sunfire because his cool-downs are extremely high for the special and not really designed for prolonged use.
Planning on going into DD4 very soon, So far have MLF, Omega Red, and Kestrel. Cosmic will be very tough for me without either of the Eternals, wondering if Emma is someone you’d be fine bringing to 15 since I use her in arena daily
She is very expensive. She is a kit-based character and as long as you have her passive at a minimum of 4, she is serving her purpose. If you are close to gt 15 on her, go ahead but I'd save that mutant gear for all the other mutants you need to gear up. Side note, if you are using the Speedternals on defense for Arena your only reason to build her up would be to avoid dying to a double tap from Ikaris. In order for that to be the case, you need to get Loki up as Well. Not a good reason to level her up since Loki will trigger the double tap anyways if he isn't built.
would you be willing to do a video for those of us who aren't doing the Apoc event and don't have a lot of those characters especially the horsemen
Not even a year in player currently in DD4 working on DD5 soon lineup:
City: Ghost Spider, Scarlet Spider, OG Spider, Shang Chi, Miles ( i cant justify my limited resources on she hulk atm)
Global: Cap Sam, Sharon, Maria Hill (DD4), Wong, Hulk, Agatha/Gambit/Spider Weaver (DD5)
Cosmic: Ikaris, Sersi, Kestrel, Dr. Strange Heartless, Tchalla
Legendary: MLF, Red Hulk, Iron Man (DD4), Omega Red, Rogue, Death horseman (DD5)
Hmmm . so i just came back to game , I done dd4 - But what i m thinking as everyone saying go for horsemen . Why priorotize their team over your raids teams you use every day ? Isnt having a better raid team help your alliance instead of chasing apocalypse that will release ( i dont know when ) and what it ll be his use , we dont know . Just asking ...as i m getting at the point i need to decide who to g16 . I m missing rogue / red hulk as i was nt playing in their events .
cant wait for DD6, where we need to gear up 6 characters for each section, but can only use 5
For legendary, MLF Rogue Omega Red Doc Oc and Jubilee 1 shot the first two nodes and finished the final node in 3 attacks on my first run. I can only imagine having Red Hulk would be a further improvement.
I ended up taking bishop to cosmic. I know that he is expensive with unique sets, and Axmen may be on their way out, but he doesn't share mini uniques with anyone important and I was struggling with Doom 3 and the G16 on him helped out. He is not very good in DD and dies almost right away, but he will tank a few shots.
Hei Boilon! Is there a place where we can download those spreadsheets? Tyvm and keep up the good work!
You can find them in my discord usually about 6hrs after the video (so people don't skip the vids).
if my agatha is only 4s+4rs is she worth prepping for DD4? - rest of my ready global team is mr sinister/all 3 secret avengers
Yeah 4 star is more than good enough absolutely
@@Boilon thanks hombre
I really dont want to invest in Web Warriors... Do I have to? Can I just go with Cloak and Dagger or is dagger a waste at this point?
Would stay away from Dagger but Cloak is fine stand alone and cheaper than Dagger.
Was gonna bring Scarlet too but I think it may be better to gear 2099, whats your view?
I just got Omega Red recently and it has been a game changer!
Hello
Newbie Here lv 65
I dont have WebW build is it still needed even with the new Rebirth team?
Well..Agent venom close to unlocked but yea idk
If you can unlock all of rebirth I would just build them, if you want better information I would suggest joining my discord, there are many people who can help with low level stuff
i have mlf, rogue and or at gt16 for dd5 ready to go... who are the CHEAPEST legendaries to gear up.. i have all characters, just dont want to waste future resources when the 3 i have are going to blast right through the last 3 nodes... im guessing doc oc is cheap because hes been around for a long time... im talking bottom of the barrel cheapest... thanks boilon...
pls try She-hulk, Ghost-spider, SG, Shawn, Scarlet spider on dd5 city2 node as you suggest. I say its impossible to finish
Shawn?
@@gourav2827 Shang Chi called himself Shawn in the movie
@@maxim7781 I was going to use same team except she hulk now I have to think again
@@gourav2827 dont even try with low stars on spiders and below level 90, check waves, crazy heals. I would like to see video proof
I made it through city nodes pretty easy with squirrel girl, shawn, ghost spider, miles, and mrs marvel.
for Cosmic, I was thinking Valkyrie because she's not Mystic. thoughts? Instead of Thor or Tchalla. for DD5
I wouldn't do Valkyrie over Thor or T'Challa personally. Yes she's not mystic but her use beyond DD5 is limited, Thor is like the main player of the war scourge at least.
i liked og spiderman vs scarlet spider. i thought his kit was at least equal if not better and my og was 7 yellow 5 red at the time vs 4/4 so it just made sense.
Outside of raids I can see why you’d say this but in raids scarlet spider is better which you’ll be using daily so that’s why I give him more leverage
I think Phoenix is still good choice to whittle down Legendary nodes, if your Horsemen are small in stars or you can't be bothered to think how to attack smartly.
Maybe for DD3 Global, but beyond this I wouldnt take her to G15+
@@Boilon I used her in dd4 XD But granted, I am not playing very optimaly
Is gambit at 2y2r viable enough for dd5?
Depends what your alternative options are. I mean he will be a bit squishy probably due to lower HP
Doesn't make sense that they have Iron Man using Gamma gear. He should be titanium alloy or something like that.
Ahhh yes... Being in DD4 and not have Ikaris.... is a pain
It is pretty ridiculous how long they've held these characters, I will be addressing this in a separate video tomorrow actually.
Sadly though, I just would still hold off building too many non relevant end game characters as replacements.
I've started city with anti-venom as my healer instead of squirrel Girl. I'm not impressed. But I'll probably finish before I can get squirrel Girl geared up.
Why Anti-Venom? He is part of a D-Tier Team, and there are much better Bio options 😅
^ yea why anti Venom especially as a healer, he only good with us team there so unless u brought the rest of the team y anti
@@DavidHPihl needed a healer that was ready to go.
My other choice was to wait.
I don't recommend it, but it is what it is.
What about Tangled Web for city...?
Only 2 of them are city, Weaver who is one of the most important is Global, so I would pass frankly.
also please consider farmabiliyy and low yellow stars lol ...love the vid about to watch it lol ...blessings
No Maria Hill for Global? Full on SA team. Great video BTW!
You could do the full team but there’s just so many other choices frankly for global like a LOT
@@Boilon True dat! Thanks for the reply.
I unlocked Sersi quite a while ago but Ikaris... that sombitch has evaded me for SO LONG
my baby account is almost level 69 and i think im like 26/100, so yeah not a lot of shards and can sympathize. Outside the table I mentioned a few extra cosmic choices but realistically I don't like the idea of taking characters that high that will just drop off.
are sure that, investing all our resources into unlocking Apocalypse, is the best option ?
we don't know his stats, skills or areas of the game he'll play.
he's months away, and I don't have to unlock him right away, when he comes out.
I hate investing into bad characters, and some of these tier 1 and 2, are not good for my account.
if I wait another year, maybe there's more gold and gear available, or maybe I'll quit the game, and don't care.
I mean through your logic you’re just kicking that can down the road lol. You could wait for better solid stand alone characters like the eternals or kestrel or whatever but who knows how long you’d be waiting I guess.
@@Boilon I understand your advice, but think I'll progress faster, if I don't build any Horseman teams in 2022
I’m free to play. I don’t have ikaris or Sersei. I’m developing gamora, phylla and nebula. They are so easy to build up as a ftp player
They can work at lower dark dimension but really wouldn’t take them beyond dd4
@@Boilon ok, thanks, I won’t level them too much then. I’m currently building my team for DD3 and I think they’ll be good for that - and those guys are keeping me in the 100-150 range for arena so they’re valuable to me. And I only have 13 ikarus shards so that ain’t happening 😂
Yeah that’s pretty far from Ikaris sadly so at that stage you have to do what’s within your means I guess too!
OG Spider-Man worked well for me, think he works better stand alone than scarlet spider
His stats aren't as good as Scarlet Spider, so while its probably fine for either to DD4, I wouldn't take OG to DD5 personally.
Saw some other CC who recommended OG instead of Scarlet (after using Scarlet and not being impressed)
I don't know if it matters much. I never use OG standalone and I was able to gear scarlet first.
I too vouch for OG spidey being better than Scarlet. Maybe on node 4 Scarlet is slightly more useful, but 5 and 6 OG shines much brighter than Scarlet ever could.
I would rather have a larger scarlet spider for raids if I had to gear any of them versus OG. More considering the broader impact everywhere.
minute 11, but we haven't dormamu in 3 dimension
Tchalla and ravagers are still a skippable team IMO
Dagger?
Too many endgame characters that are absolutely necessary use mystic gear. She is good but not worth building if you haven't already. Think about it... The entire dark hold team, ikaris and sersi plus spider weaver now.
basically what is said here, she's not bad but just so much mystic saturation. Cloak is viable stand alone and I did this myself.
i took dagger without cloak.. also with shang, og spider man, spider gwen and squirrel girl.. got me through.. definitely not a one shot but it worked if you have patience.. i struggled more with global 2 for some reason.. about to start cosmic tomorrow morning, and i have 3 out of 5 legendaries ready to go... cant wait to unlock him.. hopefully within 2 weeks..
@@salbec143 It is an option. People recommend cloak over dagger due to all the negative effects and spreading them with Ghost Spider and prolonging them if you bring Scarlet. But OG Spiderman seems to be better with Ghost Spider
@@ofnazareth9376 hi I am doing dd3 first run and at lvl 78 I am bringing the cosmic nodes to an end and I built up cloak and dagger, og spider man, ghost spider and Shang should it be just a walk in the park for city or is it a challenge
Silver surfer?
Not worth it unless already built up. Mystic and not used very much endgame now.
Death pool?
I’m one of those “don’t have eternals” guys.
Deathpool probably would be better than Surfer, did I not mention any of these 2 in my video? I actually use Surfer just now on my baby account, but he's not really DD5 material which is what the table represents. But, in the mean time either of those are acceptable for the DD3/4 range I think, just not ideal.
@@timothytice4625 if you have Deathpool, shes ok to level up to G15 85 if you don't have an Ikaris. Im sure Sersi shouldn't be an issue to get because she is a 45 shard unlock and hits hard and survives regardless of how many yellow stars you have on her. Tchalla and Kestrel would be a priority for gold and training materials plus sbc's over Silver surfer if you want to buy yourself time to see if by chance you unlock Ikaris. Silver Surfer is definitely ok to get to G12 level 70 and I would gear up my 4 other cosmic characters to see where I am at first before leveling SS (buying time to unlock Ikaris hopefully) to go into Dark Dimension 3 or 4. He will never be an option for DD5 at this point. Im in the same boat as you on my baby account and only have 47 shards for Ikaris and just recently unlocked deathpool.
She hulk is a horseman character? Anyone else hear that?