I love the direct response of the Step On’s. In combination with a stiff booth carving is fun. Every movement, how small, is translated into direct response to the board.
Loved the 2022 genesis step ons with photon boots until the gas pedals kept falling off (day 20, and multiple other days), both hammocks fell/snapped off (day 30 and day 50), the toe box of both boots sheared off at the seam (starting day 40 and completely disintegrated toe seam by day 65-70, and the rear toe clip failed completely by day 65, so it wouldn't hold your toe in while riding. So yeah... Screw the weight and response...
Just had my first day with the Clew bindings, seem very well built, take a bit of adjusting to get toe strap right for the best step in but otherwise it was cake. I avoided the flows due to the cable on the high back. Clews are a bit stiff but my riding style has changed so it worked great. If you get a bit of snow in the binding base, just give the board a quick tap or slap and you get right in. Im impressed so far. Oh and be sure to keep weight on the foot before you pull the lever to get out, if you do that, its a breeze.
Thanks for the review! I love my 2015 flow hyrid nx2 bindings and will probably purchase the 3rd gen of these bindings in the future. hopefully by then the quality and tech from flow get's implemented in. It looks like this solves most of the issues that the flow's have, which is great. The Burton step-on's just don't do it for me, so this is a nice hybrid between the flow and burton setups.
Been snowboarding 26 years and approaching 50. I picked up the Burton stepins and love them. I’m sure the supers are fine too, just hard to find. Anyway, I’m over getting down every time.
Great review, I’m an old guy looking to replace my flow binding because it has become more difficult to bend over and pull that handle up on the back of the high back. So I’m not sure which binding I will go with, but thank you for the education.
Thanks! If good flex underfoot and shock absorption calls to you go Step On. If you don't want proprietary tech that forces you into only a few boots go Supermatic.
Same boat. Looking to change from flows. I tested out the step ons and found the slight movement in the connection points really lowered the responsiveness. I did not like them at all.
I switched from Flow to Step-On and I like them. I think that Clew might be a good choice. I'm almost 68. If you decide to get Clew please post your experience. Clew bindings look like are easiest to get in and out.
One thing I miss in this review is: The Flow NX2 Carbon (formerly CX) has the most stiff and supportive ankle strap and most stiff highback of all these Bindings on the Table. Plus least Bootout. Also on all Flow NX2 variants you can mount the rope and ankle straps on rear upper holes (does take its time until all 6! screws per binding are removed and fixed again). But these might have fixed your issues with NX2, James (bringing the ankle strap higher up). NX2 Bindings like a loser toe Straps setup and normal ratched ankle straps, that is correct. Forward lean of NX2 needs to be pre-adjusted precisely to your boot forward lean, to put an bit pressure on the top of your boot shaft. With all this adjusted, the NX2 Carbon is the best Carving Binding for wide boards and charging boards by far, while having the least bootout of all of them. But one thing is clear and agree fully: On Flat Ground In and out is more difficult on NX2 than on Clew , Burton , and Supermatic. On steep terrain entrance the NX2 will probably win (kneeing forward position, front edge locked in snow) Clew, Burton, I have tested, NX2 and NX2 carbon are on my Quiverboards, beside one Union Bindung. All presented bindings are good rideable but have their special preferences. Thx for adding the weight information
Thanks for the review on these, surprised to see how well the clews did in comparison with the supermatic. I’ve really been looking at them as not viable, so definitely more open. I’m a response guy personally, so just picked up the ion step on with the step on x!
After using the supermatic for a season, I do have to add that the step-in can be a little finicky. If you like the bindings snug, or if you don't align the boot right, the mechanism will often not close smoothly, needing to stomp a bit. Also, the comments about steep hills are so true. Add to that when you need to unclip on a deep powder day. Overall good, but not the 'super easy is made to look on the ads.
Your review is very good. You touched on the weight of the bindings without noting the extra weight that comes with the step-on boots. I had a Burton step-on system on my Burton board several years ago. The boots were very heavy by design, which you feel when you're not on your board. Keeping the clips on the bindings cleared of snow was a bit of a nuisance. When one of the plastic mounts on the side of one boot cracked, the boots became worthless. So, I went back to regular bindings and boots. I spend most of my time in the deep powder of the glades dodging trees. Sometimes, you pick the wrong line and get stuck. How easy is it to get back into these bindings in deep snow? I am intrigued by the Nidecker Supermatic system, but I agree with Batwing2465 who wants to wait to see if there are any improvements in the next version.
Many thanks Colin and thanks for your take. Step On boots don't come with extra weight. My Photon Step On Wide's (size 9) weight 2.2lbs and that is the same weight of my Burton Kendo's on which I use every day. Burton boots are about average industry wide. Some boots (non-step on) weight closer to 1.8lbs and some can get up to 2.6lbs. Most bindings weight 1.8-2.2lbs so the Nidecker Supermatic at 2.8lb's is a good bit heavier than most boots and bindings as well as most Step On Boots/bindings. What Step On boot and size did you ride? Yes it is easier than most quick release as long as you don't do it while you start riding. You might really like the Supermatic as weight isn't everything.
Excellent review. Has given me food for thought. I’ve always had flows & have recently bought a new set, so I won’t be buying any for a while but I’ll be keeping my eye on the Nideckers & Clews to see how they evolve
I've been riding with FLOW BINDING'S for over 18 years,put my back foot in the bindings while going up on the chair lift,get off chair, don't have to deal with those dumb ratchet bindings and alot easier especially on a POWDER DAY.Bought the NX2 FUSION,stiff but has a little flex, TOTALLY PERFECT BINDINGS !!!
I used my step ons for a half day and then got my regular burton bindings and I didn’t like not having the instant responsiveness that I got from the step ons.
A pair of lightweight boots with the Nideckers will come in the same weight or lighter than most Burton step on setups. This is because step on compatible boots have to add structure to compensate for the lack of hardware on the bindings.
2022-2023 Photon Step On boot I tested it with are 2.2lbs. Most non-step on boots come in at 1.8lbs-2.4lbs so Step On Boots are a normal weight.That being said it is not all about weight. Many other factors are at play and this is a pretty good quick release binding.
As a Flow rider for over 20 years, I'm excited to try out the Supermatics. The biggest complaint I've heard about them is the lever being difficult when releasing / getting out. Unless I missed it, I don't think you talked about this much. What are your thoughts on the release mechanism? Great video as usual!
I've heard the same. The Clew really intrigue me. I'm using SP bindings right now and they are as easy to get out of as flows, but to get in you have to click the high back up (like flows) AND then click the the ankle strap (hard to explain, if you're curious watch a video).
I just came back from Whistler and heading to Big White now and I can confidently say I love the Supermatics. And yes, that lever is a pain, but I attribute that to my belly getting in the way. If the lever was the pull up type, like the Burton step ons, then the Supermatics would be perfect.
I use Step-On and like them. I think that Nideckers have to many moving part and with that in mind more things can go wrong. I think that Clew can be a better option.
Both the Clew and Supermatic came in today and will try them out this coming January in Utah. I wanna see which one will be a good fit for me. From what I can tell, it seems like the supermatic's are easier than the Clew.
@@thegoodridesnow My first update for you. I just came back from Brian Head, Utah and used the Supermatics first. The day was windy, about 21mph gusts at the top of the mountain. Getting in and out of the Supermatics was super easy, but when I got stuck in the powder, it was a little harder getting out of it, because of the press down lever being burried. It was about over the calf high while in the powder. I had to actually unstrap from my Supermatics. It was totally opposite with the Clew bindings. On the second day, the weather was even worse. There were 31mph gusts, but when I got stuck in the powder, pulling on the high back handle with the Clews, made it very easy to get out. The third day was nice and stayed with Clew bindings, and I gotta say, it was a lot easier with Clew bindings, mainly because I didn't have to bend down as much as with the Supermatics. Being older, having a gut, and not being that flexible, the Clew bindings was the easier of the two. In March, I will be in Big White, Canada and will do more testing. I want the Supermatics to work and I think Big White will be a good test, mainly because of the harder, flatter surface prior to going down the mountain. In addition, I'll be working on my gut 😄😄to help bend lower to release the lever. Update to follow.
Yes I will. There are a many reviews ahead of them though. Sorry. Some are not as reduced as Burton and other very reduced footprints. I don't have exact specs but probably 1-1.5cm longer. Then some, like the Rift APX are about the same or even a touch smaller footprint wise than Burton.
Thanks so much, really like your review style, I’m an old average love to burn boarder and i think these are for me. If i can only find a set now hahaha
Thanks for the review. I have some Fuse GT Flows and they are indeed HEAVY. My legs get tired and I have to take breaks, which is not the case with my old fashioned ROME Boss 390s. The first generation of a product is never the best. I agree they need to address the weight and shock absorption issues. Maybe have a carbon model that is lighter.
I appreciate your thorough review of these bindings. You mentioned at the end of your review that you were using the Nidecker medium bindings. I also noticed that you wear a size 9 boot. The Nidecker sizing chart states that medium bindings for the supermatic accommodate up to size 8.5. I just want to verify that you had no issues with your size boot and the medium sized binding since I fall in the same range.
Many thanks! You know I just told Nidecker that I'm a size 9 and they sent that size. I'm really glad they sent mediums as they felt just right for me. I would not want Larges. One thing is I was riding reduced footprint boots from Burton and Nidecker with this. If you have boots with a really long footprint I would double check with Nidecker.
Saw a Reddit user say he does this: 2 boards - one super matic on the rear foot only and one regular binding on the fore foot (as you are strapped in anyway) - my idea is I have a Burton nug for a fun day (ride this switch) and then get an all mountain (ride this regular) for the rest of the days. One supermatic binding on the back foot of each board. You see any problems with this? Is this a crazy idea lol? Thanks
Interesting. So, I often compare bindings by putting two different bindings on a board to see how each one really rides. The feel is often very different, so it will work if you are ok with a stark difference between front and back foot and different weights.
Great review! I'm thinking about getting the Nidecker Supermatics to replace my normal Burton strap-in bindings. But ngl, I wish Switch bindings were still made...
Love me my cartels … ever think to try a supermatic on the back foot cartel on the fore foot and sell or second board (switch) with the other two bindings? See any problems with this?
Thanks for the great review as always. I really like the NX2 TM although I always rode Union Force. The Force and Atlas used to always give me pressure points on the toe strap because I wear a US14 and cant put it over the front of the toes like you can do it with the flow. Would you recommend the NX2 TM in general (quality-wise), if you're a Union Fan boy :D ? I am totally fine with the In and out but unsure about the straps and buckles though.
Yes they are of good quality and last a long time. Especially because you don't use the straps once you get them dialed. Lever on the back lasts a long time too. This makes perfect sense for you.
In my opinion bindings shouldnt be weighted separately. They should be weighted with boots in them. Burtons may seem like the lightest ones but I suppose their boots are the heaviest. Once Ive seen some of the top standard set (boots and binding) compared with Burton Step On set (also boots and binding) and they weighted exactly the same (to the gram). Still overall great comparison, not a lot of such stuff on YT.
Thanks. Actually click through to check the written reviews of the Step On and Supermatic. The Burton Step on Boots dont weigh any more than regular boots. My Kendos weigh 2.2lbs, Kendo Step On 2.2lbs & Photon Step On Wide 2.2lbs. Nidecker Rifts 2.0lbs, Nidecker Kitta 2.4lbs. Actually most boots Ive tried weight 2-2.4lbs so the weight with Supermatics and most boots overall is a good bit more. That being said weight isnt everything and shouldnt be a major factor in deciding for most.
I run Flow for years... unfortunately the quality isn't good as it was...my NX2 CX lost plastic parts and screws...I'll try other bindings...maybe Step on
Wanting to grab some supermatics to try. Going to be spending a lot of time with my 4yo kid this season and the step ins are appealing. Do you recommend a large or extra large for size 11 vans verse? I have 2022 Rome DODs that I use most. How do the supermatics feel in comparison? Thanks for the reviews!
No problem. The main thing is they will feel a lot heavier. You need Larges which are heavier but in medium (what I tested for size 9's) The DOD's I tested were 2.0lbs per foot and Supermatics were 2.8lbs per foot. The weight increase for size Large will be similar which is massive. Response will be similar, shock absorption better on the DOD's but getting in and out will be more convenient skating and riding with your 4yr old daughter so could be worth it.
You are not supposed to wear your highbacks on off the snow! You can damage the system since there’s a plate underneath your boot. If you are getting off the snow, you unstrap like traditional. Stepping out of clew is reserved for entering/exiting lifts and traversing flats easily.
Thanks. So what is the model, size and weight of your DC Step On boot? I would like to compare your numbers it to the Burton Photon Step On I have and some other non-step on boots I have.
As a 42 year old beginner , would you recommend the supermatic? I want whatever is easy to get in and out plus I don’t plan on doing jumps or the park. Just groomers
Yes this could work. Especially if strapping on bindings feels a bit intimidating. The Supermatic, Clew's and Burton Step On's all do a very good job when it comes to a super easy in/out.
I’m 40 & also have no interest in park/jumps. Just groomers & pow. Have been riding 10 years & have always used flow, but these days there are so many more options for quick entry. If I hadn’t just bought some new flows I’d have probably gone with the Nideckers. Happy riding 👍
I'm 49 and a beginner/intermediate rider. I just switched to the Burton Step On this year and really, really like them. Getting in is so fast & easy with very little practice. Twisting your heel inward , to get out takes a little more practice but isn't too bad. I got the Burton Photon boot with the added ankle strap and I am pleased. If you go this route, one 'hack' you may consider is switching the part of the binding with the release lever on it. You can move the right piece to the left binding and vice versa with just a screwdriver. This places the release levers inside your legs. I find that much easier than reaching on the outside of my legs. The Supermatic would be my 2nd choice.
I’m 59 here, so I beat all you young folks 😂. Also beginner/intermediate rider of groomers. Love using the Clews and Supermatics, having a hard time choosing my favorite.
The supermatics are step in and go maybe half the time. If you’re not on even ground or if you don’t put your foot in and the perfect angle, they’re a pain in the ass. The only way to fix it is to loosen your bindings more than you probably want to, and then you have to crank the ratchet to get the tightness you want, which defeats the purpose of buying them in the first place
Dont get it for what you Show DC and Nitro???? They dont work in Supermatic???? I tried the Clew Binding and its not great with my Nitro Teams Boot....
Solid comparison review! Quick question. Are the Step Ons and Clew the only ones that have good low lift chair clearance? As in, do you see an issue with the Flows and the Supermatics possibly getting smashed by a low lift chair on a pow day? With the Step On I think you can fold them all the way down, as well as with the Clews just basically with the base on the board while disengaged with the highback is still on your boot? Sure you could release the straps and possibly tuck the highbacks like a traditional binding, but would you see some riders opting to not do that possibly at the risk of ruining their settings?
I can answer you for the supermatics, you can smash them with the mechanism open or closed with no problem. The Highback either folds onto the straps, which are soft and give way or it folds backwards (when open) so that the highest point of the binding is always the heelcup. And a chair low enough to smash the heelcup will damage almost any binding
@@Alukard1900 very true. I am glad to see the folding backwards integration to eliminate this problem. With normal bindings it's so easy to just fold down your highback. Glad to see an option for the Supermatics.
on supermatic and flow: you need to clap the highback back down before sitting down on the incoming chair of a chairlift. NOT BY pulling/clapping it forward (pressing into ankle straps) ,there the danger of damaging Highbacks can happen! I ride the NX2 now my 5th year, never destroyed any highback, but once I clamped one accidently under chairlift, when I forgot to put Highback back down, gladfully it did not break. It is a thing you learn, and always check. On normal binding and burton stepon you need to.check the HB as well, but there clapping it forward. only bindings without checks are the Clew, where the highback stays on the boot
Great review man, yeah totally need GNU comparison as well. Pre-ordered but now might have doubts cause weight/bulk as others also mentioned, you're the only one mentioned poor shock absorbs and bulk lesser the board feel, is it something can be over looked or stick with traditional binding?
Many thanks man! That is a personal call. For some it is a deal breaker and some won't care. In same day binding comparisons the feel underfoot and shock absorption was pretty noticeable. It wasn't as much when just riding the same binding all day. You do get a pretty damp ride though in comparison to many. I wish GNU would send some to test like Nidecker, Burton and Clew did.
Thanks for the great review. I was sold on the Burton step on system until I started hearing about the bad heal lift. Did you experience heal lift with the Burton step on system?
Do you mean heel lift in the boot or the heel of the boot lifting up off the base of the binding? I didn't fee either but I always cleared snow out before stepping in.
@@thegoodridesnow I've worn the old Clickers for ~20 years. The boot finally broke down so I bought the new Clickers last year. So difficult to get in when there is lots of fresh snow. So frustrated this year. Will give up on them and look to get the Neibacker because of this review. Thanks for the great review.
The Burton-Step-On might be light, but the Boot for it has to be stiffer and heavier because it has to resistance the forces while riding. There is no strap etc. from the binding. The response of Flow, Nidecker and Clew is better, because these bindings are a Strap-Bindings with direct connection to the board. Another advantage of these bindings, adjusting the Strap-Force. If your are a High-Speed-Carver strap it very stiff, in the park little bit looser. I used the first Burton-Step-On with the Boot-Bed mechanism in the middle. For a beginner it was good. In powder sometimes i had struggles because of snow, closing it. Later i changed to Mission. Now i use Union Bindings.
Burton boots are very light. Just as light as Non-Step On boots. They also resist the forces while riding because they are directly connected to the high back. Some do have straps too. In same day tests the response was not better with Flow, Nidecker and Clew. If anything I think Burton is too responsive. After same day real world tests with all the bindings you mentioned I think all have their own advantages and disadvantages.
You mean how do they support your ankle in comparison to normal bindings? Pretty close to most with normal size straps. Better than many bindings with smaller ankle straps but a little behind most with a bigger supportive strap that sits a little higher on your ankle.
Unfortunately yes it would be a problem. Even if you remove the clip in the back you still have the toe mounts. If you want Supermatics or normal bindings get new boots
Not sure but probably not. I think you would have to unscrew the clip in the back that connects to the Step On binding and then you would have issues with the metal extensions in the toe that connect to the front of the bindings.
Great review! I have a pair of 2014 Union flite Pro's which Have finally had it so looking to switch to the Supermatics. Im goingg to assume anything would be better than a 10 year old pair of bindings but just on the off-chance, has anyone ridden the Union Flite Pros and newer bindings? I've gotten so used to them thatI dont want to get a new pair and have so much change to deal with!
I (dude in the review) have ridden all the bindings you are talking about. The new Flite Pro's are their budget binding but it's a great binding for the price. Very light compared to the Supermatic, which is one of the heaviest bindings in the industry. It is much more convenient and damp. Also, vs. the Flite Pro, I like the response and overall feel better. It's all personal preference.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the reply (dude in review) :D the flite pro's have been great bindings over the years but as I've progressed and ride much more faster and aggressively, the lack of canting on the front foot is really causing pressure to build up after a couple of hours of shredding. do you think a binding with any canting will eleviate this?
Sorry. Hard to keep up with all the comments. Especially replies. I'd take a look at the Union Force (new one) as that would be a great upgrade and it's canted.
Plzz help me, i wanna buy new binding but cant figure it out :-( burton step on or nidecker? Witch on you prefer? Boots is no problem because i need new one's so no problem there....
Based on the info you gave me it's hard to help. I would start with boots and figure out if Burton, Nitro or DC Step On fit you well. If so go Step On. If not go Supermatic or Clew. If you need real advice fill out this form here. I've been recently overwhelmed with advice emails so it might take me a little while to answer. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
I went from K2 clickers to step ons. Will never go back. The K2's ripped the soles off the boots in a season and a half on 2 pairs. I was always digging snow out of the mechanism. Snow conditions didn't matter. Rented step ons and the difference was amazing. You could feel the board flexing under your foot because you no longer had a metal plate under your foot. Don't waste your time with them.
My girlfriend is a beginner (two days rentals under her belt) and looking to buy her first setup. She's looking for a fast entry due to some knee issues. Which of the options would be the best for a beginner? Flow has the "soft" option the others are missing but I'm worried they'll be more difficult to get in and out. Supermatics also look a little difficult balance-wise. Burton's new Felix Soft boots are currently pushing me that way.
Yeah I would probably go Felix Soft/Step On if you want quick release. It has more shock absorption than Supermatics and especially Clew which might be important for her knee. It's easier in and out than Flow too.
Other than shock absorption the Clew binding does well. All have poor adjustability. Burton has the best feel underfoot and response but you have to buy compatible boots too. The Supermatic weighed the most and feels heavy but was the easiest in and out and felt the most damp. You might want to hit me up here if you want advice that is much more specific to you thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hi Im thinking of getting the supermatic for next season . i have a k2 alchemist , and yes optimistic 2021. Do you think the supermatic would pair with this boards? Thanks for the reviews
@Michael Jones46 are you making it your mission to comment on every nidecker video lol. I can say that same about burton step ons. That's also what warranty is for. There's 1000s of people with supernatics with no issues.
@JPTinioMedia you really can't though, the Burton step ons don't have anywhere near as many moving parts of the supermatics. Being able to use any binding is pretty big though. Each has their own pros and cons
Thanks for review. I notice you didn't include any of the GNU rear entry bindings in the comparison. I was a FLOW guy for years and for past 6 years have been on GNU Mutant and now Freedom. I almost pulled trigger on these Nidecker bindings, but being it's the first year, I wanted to see if they evolve into something even better for the premium price.
Ive only ever wore step ons ( been riding about 3 years). Now I’m getting better i was to go faster and more of a charging board, i keep reading that a stiffer board should have a stiffer boot and binding. Would you say the step ons will work well on a hard charger ? I’m nearly 50 now and i love the step on system, I’m not sure id want to change to normal bindings now unless i really had to Many thanks
Hi I also own the clew. But for me, the right barb on the back foot never really engages. Can someone tell me why that is. In the videos I've watched so far it all looks so effortless and sometimes I really struggle to get the hook on the right side right. Maybe one of you has some tips for me.
The issue is the angle you're stepping in at. To me it only happens when there's too much snow in the binding, but you can either do some ollies or just put pressure with your foot while leaning on your back foot. In the most severe cases (when the binding is full of snow, etc.) just lean and push the high back with your hand. It's my second season using CLEWs and that's really the only issue I've had so far, and it happens pretty rarely.
@thegoodridesnow I've seen it on the scale, nidecker is 100 grams more than burton weighing both together.. maybe different variations of burton boots weigh less but .2 lbs difference on any style of their boot vs nidecker is insignificant.
Show me the specific data as I'm not seeing that. I see on my scale a 1.1lb difference Per Foot and 2.2 total with Photon Step On/Genesis Step On vs. Photon Speed Lace/Supermatics. Burton Photon Step On Wide Size 9: 2.2lbs Burton Genesis Step On Size Med: 1.8lbs Total 3.8lbs/Foot Burton Photon Wide 2.1lbs Nidecker Supermatic Size Medium: 2.8lbs Total: 4.9lbs/foot This is very similar if you compare every step to its non-stop counterpart.
Burton is a joke!!! You can mount your own bindings but they won’t let you fix them which is easy…. This is Everett reaching back out to you about those toe clips for the step on bindings. Heard back from the warranty team and they said they have to be sent in to get fixed. Can't send out any spare parts for those unfortunately. Not even our Flagship stores have the ability to order them in and replace them at the store. I get that it's super frustrating, cause I MTB as well and know it's super easy to fix that part. The reasoning is just for liability reasons. I'm on your side where I think it's a little ridiculous of a policy, so I feel for you. Hope you have a good season though, and please hit me up if you have any other questions! Best, Everett W Burton Hybrid Guide Burton Americas
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Dude, your review was 10/10. Really appreciate all of the detail and side by side comparison!
Many thanks!
I love the direct response of the Step On’s. In combination with a stiff booth carving is fun. Every movement, how small, is translated into direct response to the board.
Thanks for your take.
The only reason i dont is the boots u have to buy with burtons but i would agree the step ons being better response.
Loved the 2022 genesis step ons with photon boots until the gas pedals kept falling off (day 20, and multiple other days), both hammocks fell/snapped off (day 30 and day 50), the toe box of both boots sheared off at the seam (starting day 40 and completely disintegrated toe seam by day 65-70, and the rear toe clip failed completely by day 65, so it wouldn't hold your toe in while riding. So yeah... Screw the weight and response...
i highly doubt. Could you please upload a video of you carving for a bit especially when you switch from toe to heel side.
Just had my first day with the Clew bindings, seem very well built, take a bit of adjusting to get toe strap right for the best step in but otherwise it was cake. I avoided the flows due to the cable on the high back. Clews are a bit stiff but my riding style has changed so it worked great.
If you get a bit of snow in the binding base, just give the board a quick tap or slap and you get right in. Im impressed so far.
Oh and be sure to keep weight on the foot before you pull the lever to get out, if you do that, its a breeze.
Glad they work for you and thanks for your take.
Thanks for the review! I love my 2015 flow hyrid nx2 bindings and will probably purchase the 3rd gen of these bindings in the future. hopefully by then the quality and tech from flow get's implemented in. It looks like this solves most of the issues that the flow's have, which is great. The Burton step-on's just don't do it for me, so this is a nice hybrid between the flow and burton setups.
Thanks you for the good words and glad your NX2 Hybrids work for you. I'd like to try more Flow with hybrid straps.
Been snowboarding 26 years and approaching 50. I picked up the Burton stepins and love them. I’m sure the supers are fine too, just hard to find. Anyway, I’m over getting down every time.
Thanks for your take.
I’m 59 and have both the Nideckers and Clews. I love them both. Hard to choose my primary.
@@dlastiwhich one is your favorite? Me and my wife want to invest but on the fence whether to get the supermatic or clew. ✌️
I'm 68 and happy with Step-On. Clew might be easier to get in and out. I had K2 before and I didn't like them. I sold them after one season.
Love your work James ❤
Thanks so much!
You need to add the Flux DS Step On when those start shipping. They have better foodbed and 5/10 stiffness.
I'll try to get a hold of some.
Great review, I’m an old guy looking to replace my flow binding because it has become more difficult to bend over and pull that handle up on the back of the high back. So I’m not sure which binding I will go with, but thank you for the education.
Thanks! If good flex underfoot and shock absorption calls to you go Step On. If you don't want proprietary tech that forces you into only a few boots go Supermatic.
Same boat. Looking to change from flows. I tested out the step ons and found the slight movement in the connection points really lowered the responsiveness. I did not like them at all.
I switched from Flow to Step-On and I like them. I think that Clew might be a good choice. I'm almost 68. If you decide to get Clew please post your experience. Clew bindings look like are easiest to get in and out.
Fair & comprehensive review, thanks. I've pumped for the Nideckers & when they are available in UK will buy a pair for next season.
Many thanks!
One thing I miss in this review is: The Flow NX2 Carbon (formerly CX) has the most stiff and supportive ankle strap and most stiff highback of all these Bindings on the Table. Plus least Bootout. Also on all Flow NX2 variants you can mount the rope and ankle straps on rear upper holes (does take its time until all 6! screws per binding are removed and fixed again). But these might have fixed your issues with NX2, James (bringing the ankle strap higher up). NX2 Bindings like a loser toe Straps setup and normal ratched ankle straps, that is correct. Forward lean of NX2 needs to be pre-adjusted precisely to your boot forward lean, to put an bit pressure on the top of your boot shaft.
With all this adjusted, the NX2 Carbon is the best Carving Binding for wide boards and charging boards by far, while having the least bootout of all of them.
But one thing is clear and agree fully: On Flat Ground In and out is more difficult on NX2 than on Clew , Burton , and Supermatic. On steep terrain entrance the NX2 will probably win (kneeing forward position, front edge locked in snow)
Clew, Burton, I have tested, NX2 and NX2 carbon are on my Quiverboards, beside one Union Bindung.
All presented bindings are good rideable but have their special preferences.
Thx for adding the weight information
thanks for your take.
Thanks for the review on these, surprised to see how well the clews did in comparison with the supermatic. I’ve really been looking at them as not viable, so definitely more open. I’m a response guy personally, so just picked up the ion step on with the step on x!
Thanks. If you want response you will for sure get it with the Step On X and Ion. Cheers!
After using the supermatic for a season, I do have to add that the step-in can be a little finicky. If you like the bindings snug, or if you don't align the boot right, the mechanism will often not close smoothly, needing to stomp a bit. Also, the comments about steep hills are so true. Add to that when you need to unclip on a deep powder day. Overall good, but not the 'super easy is made to look on the ads.
Thanks for your long term take and taking the time to write this.
The only thing I don't like from the supermatic is the release lever, but love the one from Clew.
Your review is very good. You touched on the weight of the bindings without noting the extra weight that comes with the step-on boots.
I had a Burton step-on system on my Burton board several years ago. The boots were very heavy by design, which you feel when you're not on your board. Keeping the clips on the bindings cleared of snow was a bit of a nuisance. When one of the plastic mounts on the side of one boot cracked, the boots became worthless. So, I went back to regular bindings and boots.
I spend most of my time in the deep powder of the glades dodging trees. Sometimes, you pick the wrong line and get stuck. How easy is it to get back into these bindings in deep snow?
I am intrigued by the Nidecker Supermatic system, but I agree with Batwing2465 who wants to wait to see if there are any improvements in the next version.
Many thanks Colin and thanks for your take. Step On boots don't come with extra weight. My Photon Step On Wide's (size 9) weight 2.2lbs and that is the same weight of my Burton Kendo's on which I use every day. Burton boots are about average industry wide. Some boots (non-step on) weight closer to 1.8lbs and some can get up to 2.6lbs. Most bindings weight 1.8-2.2lbs so the Nidecker Supermatic at 2.8lb's is a good bit heavier than most boots and bindings as well as most Step On Boots/bindings. What Step On boot and size did you ride?
Yes it is easier than most quick release as long as you don't do it while you start riding. You might really like the Supermatic as weight isn't everything.
Just bought them, I'll let u know 😂
Excellent review. Has given me food for thought. I’ve always had flows & have recently bought a new set, so I won’t be buying any for a while but I’ll be keeping my eye on the Nideckers & Clews to see how they evolve
Many thanks!
I've been riding with FLOW BINDING'S for over 18 years,put my back foot in the bindings while going up on the chair lift,get off chair, don't have to deal with those dumb ratchet bindings and alot easier especially on a POWDER DAY.Bought the NX2 FUSION,stiff but has a little flex, TOTALLY PERFECT BINDINGS !!!
Thanks for your take.
I used my step ons for a half day and then got my regular burton bindings and I didn’t like not having the instant responsiveness that I got from the step ons.
Thanks for your take and stoked that you did a same day comparison. That's the best way to find out what you like and don't like.
Thanks for the valuable info! Getting the NX2's Hybrid
Many thanks! Greatly appreciated!!!
A pair of lightweight boots with the Nideckers will come in the same weight or lighter than most Burton step on setups. This is because step on compatible boots have to add structure to compensate for the lack of hardware on the bindings.
2022-2023 Photon Step On boot I tested it with are 2.2lbs. Most non-step on boots come in at 1.8lbs-2.4lbs so Step On Boots are a normal weight.That being said it is not all about weight. Many other factors are at play and this is a pretty good quick release binding.
not true.
As a Flow rider for over 20 years, I'm excited to try out the Supermatics. The biggest complaint I've heard about them is the lever being difficult when releasing / getting out. Unless I missed it, I don't think you talked about this much. What are your thoughts on the release mechanism? Great video as usual!
Had zero issues with the lever. It's like good ratchets. When they work really well you don't even think about them. They just work.
I've heard the same. The Clew really intrigue me. I'm using SP bindings right now and they are as easy to get out of as flows, but to get in you have to click the high back up (like flows) AND then click the the ankle strap (hard to explain, if you're curious watch a video).
I just came back from Whistler and heading to Big White now and I can confidently say I love the Supermatics. And yes, that lever is a pain, but I attribute that to my belly getting in the way. If the lever was the pull up type, like the Burton step ons, then the Supermatics would be perfect.
As usual, nice review James :)
Many thanks!
I use Step-On and like them. I think that Nideckers have to many moving part and with that in mind more things can go wrong. I think that Clew can be a better option.
Glad they work for you.
Both the Clew and Supermatic came in today and will try them out this coming January in Utah. I wanna see which one will be a good fit for me. From what I can tell, it seems like the supermatic's are easier than the Clew.
Would love to hear your take when you get a good bit of time on snow.
@@thegoodridesnow I sure will
Who has Supermatic in stock? Seems like sold out everywhere
Yes it seems that way right now. Sorry
@@thegoodridesnow My first update for you. I just came back from Brian Head, Utah and used the Supermatics first. The day was windy, about 21mph gusts at the top of the mountain. Getting in and out of the Supermatics was super easy, but when I got stuck in the powder, it was a little harder getting out of it, because of the press down lever being burried. It was about over the calf high while in the powder. I had to actually unstrap from my Supermatics. It was totally opposite with the Clew bindings. On the second day, the weather was even worse. There were 31mph gusts, but when I got stuck in the powder, pulling on the high back handle with the Clews, made it very easy to get out. The third day was nice and stayed with Clew bindings, and I gotta say, it was a lot easier with Clew bindings, mainly because I didn't have to bend down as much as with the Supermatics. Being older, having a gut, and not being that flexible, the Clew bindings was the easier of the two. In March, I will be in Big White, Canada and will do more testing. I want the Supermatics to work and I think Big White will be a good test, mainly because of the harder, flatter surface prior to going down the mountain. In addition, I'll be working on my gut 😄😄to help bend lower to release the lever. Update to follow.
Great review once again!
Are you going to review Nidecker's boots also? I'm wondering what are their footprint and boot width.
Yes I will. There are a many reviews ahead of them though. Sorry. Some are not as reduced as Burton and other very reduced footprints. I don't have exact specs but probably 1-1.5cm longer. Then some, like the Rift APX are about the same or even a touch smaller footprint wise than Burton.
Thanks so much, really like your review style, I’m an old average love to burn boarder and i think these are for me. If i can only find a set now hahaha
Many thanks and best of luck. They might be sold out everywhere.
Thanks for the review. I have some Fuse GT Flows and they are indeed HEAVY. My legs get tired and I have to take breaks, which is not the case with my old fashioned ROME Boss 390s. The first generation of a product is never the best. I agree they need to address the weight and shock absorption issues. Maybe have a carbon model that is lighter.
Thanks for your take.
Supermatics would be nice if I could find them
I appreciate your thorough review of these bindings. You mentioned at the end of your review that you were using the Nidecker medium bindings. I also noticed that you wear a size 9 boot. The Nidecker sizing chart states that medium bindings for the supermatic accommodate up to size 8.5. I just want to verify that you had no issues with your size boot and the medium sized binding since I fall in the same range.
Many thanks! You know I just told Nidecker that I'm a size 9 and they sent that size. I'm really glad they sent mediums as they felt just right for me. I would not want Larges. One thing is I was riding reduced footprint boots from Burton and Nidecker with this. If you have boots with a really long footprint I would double check with Nidecker.
Thx for the review. Just day dreaming - will there be a step on version of splitboard bindings? I mean why not…Nidecker is already super close
I like how you dream. Hard to say but if step in/step on/quick release keeps growing it might trickle over to the uphill world.
Already exists.. called hardboots + phantom bindings. I am pretty much as fast in those as step ons.
Burton is working on a split board step on binding
Saw a Reddit user say he does this: 2 boards - one super matic on the rear foot only and one regular binding on the fore foot (as you are strapped in anyway) - my idea is I have a Burton nug for a fun day (ride this switch) and then get an all mountain (ride this regular) for the rest of the days. One supermatic binding on the back foot of each board. You see any problems with this? Is this a crazy idea lol? Thanks
Interesting. So, I often compare bindings by putting two different bindings on a board to see how each one really rides. The feel is often very different, so it will work if you are ok with a stark difference between front and back foot and different weights.
Great review! I'm thinking about getting the Nidecker Supermatics to replace my normal Burton strap-in bindings. But ngl, I wish Switch bindings were still made...
Thanks and would love to hear your take after some time on them.
Love me my cartels … ever think to try a supermatic on the back foot cartel on the fore foot and sell or second board (switch) with the other two bindings? See any problems with this?
I don't think this was meant this way but I couldn't help thinking this was just an advert for the Supermatic, rather than a genuine 'comparison'.
Nope. Not an advert.
Thanks for the great review as always. I really like the NX2 TM although I always rode Union Force. The Force and Atlas used to always give me pressure points on the toe strap because I wear a US14 and cant put it over the front of the toes like you can do it with the flow. Would you recommend the NX2 TM in general (quality-wise), if you're a Union Fan boy :D ? I am totally fine with the In and out but unsure about the straps and buckles though.
Yes they are of good quality and last a long time. Especially because you don't use the straps once you get them dialed. Lever on the back lasts a long time too. This makes perfect sense for you.
In my opinion bindings shouldnt be weighted separately. They should be weighted with boots in them. Burtons may seem like the lightest ones but I suppose their boots are the heaviest. Once Ive seen some of the top standard set (boots and binding) compared with Burton Step On set (also boots and binding) and they weighted exactly the same (to the gram). Still overall great comparison, not a lot of such stuff on YT.
Thanks. Actually click through to check the written reviews of the Step On and Supermatic. The Burton Step on Boots dont weigh any more than regular boots. My Kendos weigh 2.2lbs, Kendo Step On 2.2lbs & Photon Step On Wide 2.2lbs. Nidecker Rifts 2.0lbs, Nidecker Kitta 2.4lbs. Actually most boots Ive tried weight 2-2.4lbs so the weight with Supermatics and most boots overall is a good bit more. That being said weight isnt everything and shouldnt be a major factor in deciding for most.
I run Flow for years... unfortunately the quality isn't good as it was...my NX2 CX lost plastic parts and screws...I'll try other bindings...maybe Step on
Thanks for your take. Did you contact Flow about it?
Wanting to grab some supermatics to try. Going to be spending a lot of time with my 4yo kid this season and the step ins are appealing. Do you recommend a large or extra large for size 11 vans verse?
I have 2022 Rome DODs that I use most. How do the supermatics feel in comparison?
Thanks for the reviews!
No problem. The main thing is they will feel a lot heavier. You need Larges which are heavier but in medium (what I tested for size 9's) The DOD's I tested were 2.0lbs per foot and Supermatics were 2.8lbs per foot. The weight increase for size Large will be similar which is massive. Response will be similar, shock absorption better on the DOD's but getting in and out will be more convenient skating and riding with your 4yr old daughter so could be worth it.
The Clew might be great but I just can't fathom sitting at a bar having a beer with my highbacks being present!
Yeah walking around with it afterward isn't ideal but you can just step in, unstrap and keep the highback on the board just like a normal binding.
You are not supposed to wear your highbacks on off the snow! You can damage the system since there’s a plate underneath your boot. If you are getting off the snow, you unstrap like traditional.
Stepping out of clew is reserved for entering/exiting lifts and traversing flats easily.
nice review! if you compare weight of set supermatic + casual boot and DC step on + DC boot weight is almost same :)
Thanks. So what is the model, size and weight of your DC Step On boot? I would like to compare your numbers it to the Burton Photon Step On I have and some other non-step on boots I have.
As a 42 year old beginner , would you recommend the supermatic? I want whatever is easy to get in and out plus I don’t plan on doing jumps or the park. Just groomers
Yes this could work. Especially if strapping on bindings feels a bit intimidating. The Supermatic, Clew's and Burton Step On's all do a very good job when it comes to a super easy in/out.
I’m 40 & also have no interest in park/jumps. Just groomers & pow. Have been riding 10 years & have always used flow, but these days there are so many more options for quick entry. If I hadn’t just bought some new flows I’d have probably gone with the Nideckers. Happy riding 👍
Get the step ons and never worry about fiddling with straps again.
I'm 49 and a beginner/intermediate rider. I just switched to the Burton Step On this year and really, really like them. Getting in is so fast & easy with very little practice. Twisting your heel inward , to get out takes a little more practice but isn't too bad. I got the Burton Photon boot with the added ankle strap and I am pleased. If you go this route, one 'hack' you may consider is switching the part of the binding with the release lever on it. You can move the right piece to the left binding and vice versa with just a screwdriver. This places the release levers inside your legs. I find that much easier than reaching on the outside of my legs.
The Supermatic would be my 2nd choice.
I’m 59 here, so I beat all you young folks 😂. Also beginner/intermediate rider of groomers. Love using the Clews and Supermatics, having a hard time choosing my favorite.
The supermatics are step in and go maybe half the time. If you’re not on even ground or if you don’t put your foot in and the perfect angle, they’re a pain in the ass. The only way to fix it is to loosen your bindings more than you probably want to, and then you have to crank the ratchet to get the tightness you want, which defeats the purpose of buying them in the first place
Thanks for your take.
Dont get it for what you Show DC and Nitro???? They dont work in Supermatic????
I tried the Clew Binding and its not great with my Nitro Teams Boot....
Are you going to review Clew Binding Freedom 1.0 too?
Yep coming early next week
it‘s friday. No clew review yet?
@@justus3341 having computer/premiere pro issues. Its up next...just have to fix shit.
@@thegoodridesnow ok, thank you very much. I am excited to watch you review and hear your opinion. :-)
The Clew's were pretty good for me at first. But the quality just wasn't there. 1.5 seasons and their done. Not good.
Thanks for your take.
Solid comparison review! Quick question. Are the Step Ons and Clew the only ones that have good low lift chair clearance? As in, do you see an issue with the Flows and the Supermatics possibly getting smashed by a low lift chair on a pow day? With the Step On I think you can fold them all the way down, as well as with the Clews just basically with the base on the board while disengaged with the highback is still on your boot?
Sure you could release the straps and possibly tuck the highbacks like a traditional binding, but would you see some riders opting to not do that possibly at the risk of ruining their settings?
I can answer you for the supermatics, you can smash them with the mechanism open or closed with no problem. The Highback either folds onto the straps, which are soft and give way or it folds backwards (when open) so that the highest point of the binding is always the heelcup.
And a chair low enough to smash the heelcup will damage almost any binding
@@Alukard1900 very true. I am glad to see the folding backwards integration to eliminate this problem. With normal bindings it's so easy to just fold down your highback. Glad to see an option for the Supermatics.
Thanks for fielding that one Michbengel!
on supermatic and flow: you need to clap the highback back down before sitting down on the incoming chair of a chairlift. NOT BY pulling/clapping it forward (pressing into ankle straps) ,there the danger of damaging Highbacks can happen!
I ride the NX2 now my 5th year, never destroyed any highback, but once I clamped one accidently under chairlift, when I forgot to put Highback back down, gladfully it did not break.
It is a thing you learn, and always check. On normal binding and burton stepon you need to.check the HB as well, but there clapping it forward.
only bindings without checks are the Clew, where the highback stays on the boot
Step On can be totally flat flipping forward.
Great review man, yeah totally need GNU comparison as well. Pre-ordered but now might have doubts cause weight/bulk as others also mentioned, you're the only one mentioned poor shock absorbs and bulk lesser the board feel, is it something can be over looked or stick with traditional binding?
Many thanks man! That is a personal call. For some it is a deal breaker and some won't care. In same day binding comparisons the feel underfoot and shock absorption was pretty noticeable. It wasn't as much when just riding the same binding all day. You do get a pretty damp ride though in comparison to many. I wish GNU would send some to test like Nidecker, Burton and Clew did.
Thanks for the great review. I was sold on the Burton step on system until I started hearing about the bad heal lift. Did you experience heal lift with the Burton step on system?
Do you mean heel lift in the boot or the heel of the boot lifting up off the base of the binding? I didn't fee either but I always cleared snow out before stepping in.
I was seeing videos of people saying the boot had a lot of lift and play where it attached to the binding in the back.@@thegoodridesnow
What about the K2 clicker XHB? I feel like we forget about them but are still one of the best systems.
Yeah K2 hasn't been able to get us Clickers for demo.
@@thegoodridesnow I've worn the old Clickers for ~20 years. The boot finally broke down so I bought the new Clickers last year. So difficult to get in when there is lots of fresh snow. So frustrated this year. Will give up on them and look to get the Neibacker because of this review. Thanks for the great review.
The Burton-Step-On might be light, but the Boot for it has to be stiffer and heavier because it has to resistance the forces while riding. There is no strap etc. from the binding. The response of Flow, Nidecker and Clew is better, because these bindings are a Strap-Bindings with direct connection to the board. Another advantage of these bindings, adjusting the Strap-Force. If your are a High-Speed-Carver strap it very stiff, in the park little bit looser. I used the first Burton-Step-On with the Boot-Bed mechanism in the middle. For a beginner it was good. In powder sometimes i had struggles because of snow, closing it. Later i changed to Mission. Now i use Union Bindings.
Burton boots are very light. Just as light as Non-Step On boots. They also resist the forces while riding because they are directly connected to the high back. Some do have straps too. In same day tests the response was not better with Flow, Nidecker and Clew. If anything I think Burton is too responsive. After same day real world tests with all the bindings you mentioned I think all have their own advantages and disadvantages.
clew all the way, best bindings for me, game changer
Great review!
Many thanks!
My main concern is how secure do these feel??
You mean how do they support your ankle in comparison to normal bindings? Pretty close to most with normal size straps. Better than many bindings with smaller ankle straps but a little behind most with a bigger supportive strap that sits a little higher on your ankle.
I can't find the bindings through your link. Where can I buy these online?
Sorry. Not sure. It is very hard to find and they seem to be sold out most places.
Would it be an issue to use a Burton step on boot with Nidecker Supermatic ? I don’t want to have to purchase more boots?
Unfortunately yes it would be a problem. Even if you remove the clip in the back you still have the toe mounts. If you want Supermatics or normal bindings get new boots
Can the Supermatics accommodate step-on boots? I have some Burton Step-On boots and would love the option to hop into Supermatics
Not sure but probably not. I think you would have to unscrew the clip in the back that connects to the Step On binding and then you would have issues with the metal extensions in the toe that connect to the front of the bindings.
I agree 100% with The Good Ride.
Great review! I have a pair of 2014 Union flite Pro's which Have finally had it so looking to switch to the Supermatics. Im goingg to assume anything would be better than a 10 year old pair of bindings but just on the off-chance, has anyone ridden the Union Flite Pros and newer bindings? I've gotten so used to them thatI dont want to get a new pair and have so much change to deal with!
I (dude in the review) have ridden all the bindings you are talking about. The new Flite Pro's are their budget binding but it's a great binding for the price. Very light compared to the Supermatic, which is one of the heaviest bindings in the industry. It is much more convenient and damp. Also, vs. the Flite Pro, I like the response and overall feel better. It's all personal preference.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the reply (dude in review) :D the flite pro's have been great bindings over the years but as I've progressed and ride much more faster and aggressively, the lack of canting on the front foot is really causing pressure to build up after a couple of hours of shredding. do you think a binding with any canting will eleviate this?
Sorry. Hard to keep up with all the comments. Especially replies. I'd take a look at the Union Force (new one) as that would be a great upgrade and it's canted.
Plzz help me, i wanna buy new binding but cant figure it out :-( burton step on or nidecker? Witch on you prefer? Boots is no problem because i need new one's so no problem there....
Based on the info you gave me it's hard to help. I would start with boots and figure out if Burton, Nitro or DC Step On fit you well. If so go Step On. If not go Supermatic or Clew. If you need real advice fill out this form here. I've been recently overwhelmed with advice emails so it might take me a little while to answer. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Will you ever test the K2 Clicker's
My contact did not have Clickers in his demo fleet. If K2 will send me boots and bindings I'll for sure test them.
I went from K2 clickers to step ons. Will never go back. The K2's ripped the soles off the boots in a season and a half on 2 pairs. I was always digging snow out of the mechanism. Snow conditions didn't matter. Rented step ons and the difference was amazing. You could feel the board flexing under your foot because you no longer had a metal plate under your foot. Don't waste your time with them.
Thanks for your take
My girlfriend is a beginner (two days rentals under her belt) and looking to buy her first setup. She's looking for a fast entry due to some knee issues. Which of the options would be the best for a beginner? Flow has the "soft" option the others are missing but I'm worried they'll be more difficult to get in and out. Supermatics also look a little difficult balance-wise. Burton's new Felix Soft boots are currently pushing me that way.
Yeah I would probably go Felix Soft/Step On if you want quick release. It has more shock absorption than Supermatics and especially Clew which might be important for her knee. It's easier in and out than Flow too.
I need some step on's!!! thinking clew, but have seen lots of negative comments on them. Any recommendations?
Other than shock absorption the Clew binding does well. All have poor adjustability. Burton has the best feel underfoot and response but you have to buy compatible boots too. The Supermatic weighed the most and feels heavy but was the easiest in and out and felt the most damp. You might want to hit me up here if you want advice that is much more specific to you thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Been riding the Clew for 2nd season. Trust me, you don’t go wrong with them 👌🏼
Love my Clews
Hi Im thinking of getting the supermatic for next season . i have a k2 alchemist , and yes optimistic 2021. Do you think the supermatic would pair with this boards? Thanks for the reviews
Thanks for the good words. It's heavy but should be able to power/turn both boards very well.
I have a feeling that Nidecker Supermatic may not be last long... too many moving parts so it is easier to break 🤔
well, my supermatic broke after the 2nd run..
@@MichaelJones-gc8qdreally, damn was about to buy
@Michael Jones46 are you making it your mission to comment on every nidecker video lol. I can say that same about burton step ons. That's also what warranty is for. There's 1000s of people with supernatics with no issues.
@@JPTinioMedia i got burton cartel x now and im done with stepon, stepin! sorry :)
@JPTinioMedia you really can't though, the Burton step ons don't have anywhere near as many moving parts of the supermatics. Being able to use any binding is pretty big though. Each has their own pros and cons
Thanks for review. I notice you didn't include any of the GNU rear entry bindings in the comparison. I was a FLOW guy for years and for past 6 years have been on GNU Mutant and now Freedom. I almost pulled trigger on these Nidecker bindings, but being it's the first year, I wanted to see if they evolve into something even better for the premium price.
No problem. It's been hard getting product from Mervin lately with all the supply issues n such. Hopefully that will change and I'll get a review up.
@@thegoodridesnow All good. Enjoy your channel.
Ive only ever wore step ons ( been riding about 3 years). Now I’m getting better i was to go faster and more of a charging board, i keep reading that a stiffer board should have a stiffer boot and binding. Would you say the step ons will work well on a hard charger ? I’m nearly 50 now and i love the step on system, I’m not sure id want to change to normal bindings now unless i really had to
Many thanks
Yes. Step Ons are super responsive. If you go with Ions or Photons you have something more response than 98% of boots/bindings out there
@@thegoodridesnow that’s brilliant thanks
Hi I also own the clew. But for me, the right barb on the back foot never really engages. Can someone tell me why that is. In the videos I've watched so far it all looks so effortless and sometimes I really struggle to get the hook on the right side right. Maybe one of you has some tips for me.
The issue is the angle you're stepping in at. To me it only happens when there's too much snow in the binding, but you can either do some ollies or just put pressure with your foot while leaning on your back foot. In the most severe cases (when the binding is full of snow, etc.) just lean and push the high back with your hand. It's my second season using CLEWs and that's really the only issue I've had so far, and it happens pretty rarely.
If the left works and the right doesnt you might have a defective binding. I would message clew about a potential replacement
@@Noobochok Thanks very much! I'll try it. If that doesn't work either, I'll complain to clew about the binding.
the step on has the least responsiveness when going toe edge due to the design thou
We didn't find that in our same day tests. Did you test all three same day as well?
Wish k2 cinch was included
Hard to get a hold of K2. My contacts keep changing but will never stop trying to review their gear.
When you weigh the burton binding with boot it weighs the same as the nidecker with boot.... they are the same weight! Crazy misconception
Not true at all. Check the written review where I weighed Step On Boots vs regular. Nidecker is always significantly heavier
@thegoodridesnow I've seen it on the scale, nidecker is 100 grams more than burton weighing both together.. maybe different variations of burton boots weigh less but .2 lbs difference on any style of their boot vs nidecker is insignificant.
@thegoodridesnow love your content btw! I bought thr proto slinger based off your awesome review
Show me the specific data as I'm not seeing that. I see on my scale a 1.1lb difference Per Foot and 2.2 total with Photon Step On/Genesis Step On vs. Photon Speed Lace/Supermatics.
Burton Photon Step On Wide Size 9: 2.2lbs
Burton Genesis Step On Size Med: 1.8lbs
Total 3.8lbs/Foot
Burton Photon Wide 2.1lbs
Nidecker Supermatic Size Medium: 2.8lbs
Total: 4.9lbs/foot
This is very similar if you compare every step to its non-stop counterpart.
Thanks, and glad the proto-slinger works for you.
so Burton is the best
My supermatic broke, there is quality issue with these.:-/ didnt get a replacement .. $400 gone. thanks!! haha
That sucks! Where did they break?
There’s a 1 year warranty and these have one been out for one season? Email them lol
@@huskieszn exactly. I don't know how the $400 is "gone"... I'd also like to know more about the details of how it broke.
Burton is a joke!!! You can mount your own bindings but they won’t let you fix them which is easy….
This is Everett reaching back out to you about those toe clips for the step on bindings. Heard back from the warranty team and they said they have to be sent in to get fixed. Can't send out any spare parts for those unfortunately. Not even our Flagship stores have the ability to order them in and replace them at the store. I get that it's super frustrating, cause I MTB as well and know it's super easy to fix that part. The reasoning is just for liability reasons. I'm on your side where I think it's a little ridiculous of a policy, so I feel for you. Hope you have a good season though, and please hit me up if you have any other questions!
Best,
Everett W
Burton Hybrid Guide
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