Examining Silent Hill Short Message - Is Team Silent Back?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
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Let's examine Short Message, and see who was behind making the game.
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The last line of the video is so true it hurts
I thought it was pretty good especially for free, for FREE it was great! That makes a lot of sense, I was wondering why I felt like Silent Hill 4 so much! SH4 was one of my favorites, always liked experiencing Walter’s story through Henry’s eyes.
Love how they kind of took a little bit of everything from each previous Silent Hill game.
I loved the analysis. Especially towards the beginning and the closing statement. Great job
Youre right in what you say about the little things bringing you back from that abyssal call.
About 6 years ago I was in the worst state Ive been in in regards to my mental health. I was going to walk off a cliff above the town i live in. It was my cat, Bob. As i was leaving, she got her head stuck on her collar. I cant tell you how hard i laughed and cried in that monent. I have no idea which feeling was stringer or which noise keft me at what time.
I sat with Bob, got her unstuck and took off the collar. She peed on me. I just laughed, and laughed and laughed and laughed until every tear and scream i had been bottling fell out of me.
There i was, still alive and covered in piss and snot. I think back to that moment a lot. The lowest Ive been since getting off opiates and can gladly say that I will not let that happen to me again.
There are too mant stupid moments to witness, too many jokes to hear, too many trees to see and too much sadness washing over the world. Id rather focus on and try and bring a light to the joyful things that are out of my control that ruminate and worry avout things i never had a chance if affecting.
I really feel like Silent Hill Ascension soured so many peoples mood on this game that the bad taste that "game" had on the franchise made people skim over this
But honestly its a good game and its what Silent Hill needs right now
I can't wait to see what Silent HIll F is since I'm a huge fan of the writer's work
Yes after Alan Wake 2 kinda covered the craziness I was expecting from SHf i guess i can take something completely outside of expectations lol
Silent Hill pulling a "Groundhog Day". Wild.
I find it interesting that people are against the idea of a Silent Hill game being detached from the town of Silent Hill when even as early as the first game, whatever power is at work in the town, it is strongly implied to not be limited to just the town. The whole game happens because the cult used magic to call back the other half of Alessa's soul in the form of Cheryl. Now it's not explicitly stated that they used the power of the town to do this, maybe the spell didn't need the power of the town to work, but clearly by the second game, whatever power exists in Silent Hill, it's doing this to other people presumably by its own volition.
Not only that, but if the cult had succeeded in bringing their god into existence, why would it limit itself to Silent Hill? Surely, such oppressing deity would want to conquer the entire world. We're now probably seeing the wishes of the original cult becoming a reality: Silent Hill everywhere!
Ive always been convinced that many SH love the games but dont really pay attention to them. For instance.. when given some of thought you realize none of the games story are provoked by the town. The first game is provoked by alessa. The second alludes that the letter james receives may not be real and that his guilt is what brings him back.. not the the town and Cheryl doesnt go to the town til later in the game and its mostly cause she wants to and thats before you consider that much of the silent hill warping starts happening OUTSIDE of silent hill proving that the curse of the town isnt exclusive to the town.. but is more or less attached to the people.
The other thing that I dont understand is why people think the town is static in the first place.. There is no rules to how the town works. Thats simply just something made up by the players. So what is stopping the town from traveling. The victims of the town have been pulled by the town, transported to the town and many have simply went to the town on there own. It has appeared terrifying to some, a simple town to others and even a vacation spot.
My particular issue is that’s ALL they are doing. I had no issue with it in Homecoming or any game before it because it was a neighboring town. Or in the case of SH3 it was directly influenced by Claudia. Now it feels like they’re going overboard to just simply slap the Silent Hill name on anything that’s psychological horror and doesn’t take place in Silent Hill. Not to mention calling it the “Silent Hill effect” just sounds kinda dumb to me. And it bothers me that the world in TSM essentially knows about it. I always wondered as a kid how far it could spread. But if it’s like this - then it’s only a matter of time til the whole world is covered in it and it’s basically an apocalyptic event. Which could be cool if done right tbh but I feel like it wouldn’t be given Konami’s track record. And from what I hear, Ascension is the same way with SH stuff happening without SH actually being involved. Those concepts could be done well, but we haven’t even been to the town in almost 15 years. And I don’t think it was done well here.
And I’m not even sure if the remake counts. I want a NEW game that takes place in SH and expands upon it in a meaningful way. Honestly Downpour did a good job of that but some of its concepts were… interesting.
As for short message itself… loved the environments and monster. Hated the main character and the story itself though it had its moments/
I really just kinda dislike that it doesn’t even try to appeal to the original fanbase and we gotta hear this girl whine non stop. And the worst part above all is that there is no subtlety, no drawing your own conclusions. It just lays everything out for you and is as ham fisted as CW’s Supergirl.
If something reminds you of THAT show, run far away.
the difference is theres a reason. like someone being soul bound to the town or having the literal god growing inside them.
not just "oh there doesnt need to be a reason" and somehow the fuckin militaries of the world arent cracking down on this shit"
@@SunDormant because it already is in astral form. the god doesnt have to stay there even in spirit RIGHT NOW. it chose to be there when it was alive before. why would it just randomly change its mind now? oh right. cause plot
Love how we're not talking about that Ascension disaster. Short Message is the only new SH as far as I'm concerned, and it's fantastic for what it is.
ETA: seconding that you have no idea what could save you from the pit.
I really see The Short Message as like the prologue to the new series of SH as a whole, setting all of it up. basically a new starting point for new players.
@@Renfield97 for woke audiences that have their feelings supressed on a daily basis with no knowledge about mental illnesses ? basically preaching bloober's failures.
@@bombastik_bomb what are you talking about? It's literally the older generations the ones who prefer using distractions and justifications instead of going to a licenced psychologist and dealing with their stuff.
@@ymck7246 yeah well we didn't play the same mascarade if that's what you saw, and understood.
it's p.t. made by complete idiots with no comprehension of what silent hill is, but instead they slapped the name onto the game, and everyone is becoming impressed.
Been waiting on the Muse's analysis of this game ever since it came out.
I really liked this game, was going through a rough time and it literally brought me to tears! Can't wait for the new games! 💗
The words at the end really resonated with me. It reminded me of a friend of my mother - he struggled with depression for a long while, and before he was about to bring about his own end, he went and saw Inherit The Wind. Through the film, he saw how people compromising their own values, their own ideals, cost them their souls. It woke him up, so to speak. He suddenly had a life to live, because he saw the truth of his pain. He was living a life where he was pleasing others at the cost of being true to himself. He was able to change his life, and became a dear friend to my mother for many years.
So, the final words in this video are absolutely right. Not only can the thing that brings you back from the brink come off as "silly" to others, it can also be something totally unexpected, or seemingly unrelated.
I think the narrative of this game is meant to be a playable dorama (which literally means "drama"), dorama series are quite popular between Japanese teenagers, specially girls. On the other hand I've heard the suicide death toll amongst female teenagers is quite high in Japan. Maybe the main target of this game are these teenagers girls who are dealing with issues and might feel identified with the characters and that's why The Short Message is what it is...
one of my friend who has been fighting a miserable depression with extreme suicide attemps since she's 16 (takikg setralina everyday for now 11 years) told me that the devs handled this plot the same way as bloober handles any mental illness. they have no respect for people with depressive thoughts, because this is not how it looks at all. this game was a tragedy, and made for 8 year olds max.
@@bombastik_bomb as someone who are also suicidal, and actually did went through with the deed (and failed, 5 times) throughout my younger years (I'm 32 now),I disagree.
@@bombastik_bomb i respect your friends feelings but i just don't agree. i feel like the subject matter was handled with a good amount of care and nuance as someone who has struggled with similar feelings and had many failed suicide attempts. i played the short message after last year was probably my hardest year with so much hardship and things going wrong that felt out of my control. i just had an intentional OD (sadly not my first) in an attempt to take my life shortly before the short message dropped because i just couldn't handle the painful memories anymore i wanted to escape.
i've been living with a friend trying to get the pieces of myself back together and when this came out i wanted to play it cause it was a new silent hill game and i wanted to experience something that might help me come to terms with what i was going thru and accept it and move on...but i wasn't sure if i could handle it because of the awful mental and physical state i was in, so we played it together and it was honestly an intensely emotional and cathartic experience for the both of us. my friend also has a lot of mental health issues similar to mine cause of her past trauma and we were so shaken up by this game we had to keep swapping controller between us when it would get to be too much and it wasn't the chase sequences that were shaking us up the most it was the scenes of child abuse, bullying ,suicidal ideation, grief at unrequited love making you do stupid things, etc. there was so much to this game that just struck a chord with us emotionally. like i had multiple breakdowns playing it but in the end it felt like a worthwhile experience to me i'm glad i played it and it feels like it was an important part of my recovery which i'm still working really hard to make a reality but i'm getting there slowly.
this is just my experience tho and if someone who has gone through similar things as me feels like this game wasn't respectful of the reality of depression i totally understand and respect it. we all have different experiences and i can understand why someone might roll their eyes at the short message because it does seem like it's meant for a younger audience but i don't feel like it's fair to dismiss something just cause it's meant for teenagers. for me even tho i'm an adult now i still dwell on a lot of the negative experiences i had as a teen and the game helped me to truly face those feelings and accept it for what it is... just something that happened and i don't have to let it define me and be the catalyst to me ending my life. it can instead be a catalyst for me living a better life and helping the new generations find their way because i know things have only become harder for people growing up now
@@bombastik_bombI've been through depression as well, and I agree with you, I don't feel offended though... I would say the problem lies on how Anita is built as a character, she's very melodramatic, just like the characters of a soap opera... but there's the point, this game is a playable dark dorama, perhaps you've watched some Japanese doramas, characters are like this, exaggerated in their misery which makes them so annoying, but they're popular amongst eastern teenagers for some reason...
That's definitely possible. I wonder, when I played it, I only saw it in English but it feels like it would've been in Japanese as well. I wonder if the game's voice acting (which, I'll be honest, I really hated) is better in Japanese or another language.
Perhaps Silent Hill was the mess we made along the way.
This is a fantastic episode of our silent hill series bringing all the different game stories together is just so cool and fascinating xo cheers and thankyou so much muse xo
Amazing video as ever Muse!!!
I love that you bring together the true fans of Silent Hill! Far too often I see people talk down on this title because it didn't meet their expectations. But this was exactly what I wanted from a modern silent hill game! Even if it was a free demo experience. Thank you for bringing light to my favorite dark and foggy town of Silent Hill ❤❤
@@RedTed_Indentation45 so they cant talk down on it because it isn't what they want. but you can call it good because its what you want?
yeah that isnt shitty logic
True fans wouldn't acknowledge this slop even tho it's free. It breaks lore that only true fans would know about. If it's not in silent hill or has any real connection to it, then call it something else. This is not silent hill, no matter they try to say it's the "silent hill phenomena ". Plenty of others have broken down how lazy and dumb that idea is.
@@xxarcangelxx143 preach it brother. wish i saw this part sooner
Great video. Was somewhat skeptical about a silent hill game that didn't involve the town but I suppose that was always team silent's original intention. I am hopeful for the future of silent hill (and other konami properties like metal gear. hopefully konami goes back to making actual games instead of pachinko machines).
My biggest problem with the game is how blunt the storytelling is. You can see the twists a mile away. And it frustrates me that instead of relying on the occult elements of the series to explain the nightmare, they just attributed to now all protagonists have trauma.
Same with Silent Hill 2. They literally tell you James is a guilty evil person as soon as you get back to Neele's with the "you are not going to the same place as Mary" message. Let alone that the radio message at the beginning clearly says "James why did you kill me?".
Silent hill 2 is not blunt. But neither is it the "deep" twist people have made it out to be.
This was such ana amzing video, and I even have debuted the Silent Hill: The Short Message game at #431 in my Top 500 - My Favourite Games of All Time list countdown this year.
Your analysis videos are the best and your voice was made for analysis videos
Knowing the context in what the game was made helps so much in understanding it!
Also Happy to be a fan of @thegamemuse's channel for now 6 Years.
I love your optimistic view about the series, is heartfull and hopefull. You have changed my mind completely about this game
The Short Message made a powerful impression on me and for the most part, it gave me hope that there's a future for the Silent Hill we know and love. My one quibble with it is minor - that it doesn't take place "in" Silent Hill - but I think you're right that even though I miss that location in many ways, opening it up to other places also opens up a lot of creative possibilities for the series. Here's hoping more of the future games follow a route more like The Short Message, and less like Ascension. Thanks for putting this thoughtful video together.
Unfortunately, I still have not had the chance to experience this. I am still intrigued by it and I am so glad to see such a down-to-Earth look at this. It is going to be different and maybe a bit lackluster because it is free.
I think those that "get it" will get it. I do not care how silly something seems, if it kept you here or is keeping you here - that is what matters. When I was first dealing with stuff as a young kid, ir was the fact that I needed to return a book to my new best friend. Whether its new game releases, concerts, plans for a long distant friend to visit; whether its laying down for afternoon naps with your pets, seeing your nieces/nephews/kids grow - what matters is that you are still here.
Side note - as someone who studied sociology and gender studies for my undergraduate, I love the themes of individualism, especially when you consider that Japan is such a collectivist society.
I love The Short Message! I know for people is problem how Anita see her mother as "hillariosly evil" but hey, when i was child (and also schizofreniac) i saw my parents in similar way.
PS: My parents are normal, but i saw them as monsters because they just doesn't know how to interact with problem child.
Liked the game glade, they made it. And Glade, there is some criticism about it hope they use it to improve there future works
Another example of "giving fans what they say they want" and it ends up not being what the fans wanted. About that ending though, some people will never understand if they've never been that close to the edge. My best friend helped me step back from it.
But the thing with silent hill now is it seems it’ll be pushing trauma instead of the cult
Yeah, its a popular say for a reason "no one hates silent hill more than silent hill fans". Since the release of two people have never stopped complaining about the current silent hill entry. Its like Halo fans. Give them 10 years and suddenly Halo Reach becomes a good halo, when in the past everyone hated it for not being like 3. Hell, most people hated Halo 2 for having half the campaign being the story of another character. These days its called "the best narrative in halo".
Fans are just too blinded by their expectations.
Sweet!!
I liked this game as well. It felt refreshing.
Excellent overview! So glad to see SH4 being recognized here and in PT.
If anyone wants to read “No Longer Human”, Junji Ito did an adaptation which is bone chilling.
Beautiful video, Muse. Do you plan on examining Ascension, by any chance? I feel there's more themes and lore to examine than most people see, and I know you are fairer to things than the average fan online
Bravo Muse
You always make worthy content worth watching and actually look deep into the projects than looking at it surface level.
Im glad there's still people able to enjoy games even if they arent the main target, SH fans are incredible bitter and grumpy, not like this game deletes the old ones
12:30 "a japanese game made by the original japanese team" honestly this is something some of this game's detractors might have forgotten and end up resorting to saying that the MC doesn't look kAwAii -desu lol
I just finished a Sakura head-chan doll because I love this game so much.
SH4 is underrated AF! That game blew my mind when i first got it on OG Xbox.
I loved the short message, i don’t care what people say. Really show the potential of what could be in the future even if it’s a remake. Which I want the silent hill remake, but I’m tired of remakes
I liked this analysis
The topic of centering around the one town in the fandom is interesting in a way, it reminds me of my oomf who likes Better Call Saul for how it expands its themes by not showing only the protagonist's pov in contrast to Breaking Bad, this applies really well to Silent Hill too. By focusing on only this one town, it can lead people to miss the points being made, like this mystified town is some great exception and completely alien, when the points being made actually do in fact apply to many places. It's not just Silent Hill that struggles with the horrors, Brazil exists too.
SH short message was not bad at all. It sa it’s fine my herbs to play a game at least to time over until October. I enjoy it very shattered memory, but I noticed that too. It was like all of the silent Hills were kinda incorporated, and one had little bits of inspiration from each one it was a very good, but thank you gaming for showing silent Hill for some love. That is my ultimate favorite silent Hill ever to keep playing. I love the story. I love everything about silent Hill for and because of that I fell in love with one and I fell in love with entire series. I think I would have either way. Experience with SHI I will always support Hill for and I know and it’s good to see there’s other fans who are starting to appreciate it as well.
TSM started in 2019 based on the interviews released, it was seemingly already finished in late 2022 as the interviews took place there, and just was kept from releasing until early 2024. There's also a few Ex-Kojima production and PT veterans in the team.
The covid thing in the story might also be some kind of meta reference, because the game development actually was heavily impacted by Covid according to the staff, with major changes in the structure and story. The original ending according to Okamoto also was originally very dark but he changed it.
The book No Longer Human also was referenced by one of the developers in the interviews.
Also, they are also making another in-house SH game with it's own team, named "silent production", the game was not announced yet officially and this only can be found on recruiting campaign of Konami. It's listed as an "high end game", so it really seem like they want to do a big mainline game next in-house, as the TSM interviews teased this a bit too.
do you have a source for what you saying that the end was changed? and also, a source for the new game that could be in development?
It's really hard to find positive videos about newer Silent Hill. Out there people are still angry and criticize superficial stuff it's exhausting. So, thank you
Ikr??? seriously some of these "fans" complains are mostly from Anita's appearance --dunno why they probably wanted a kAwAii-desu face lol also its HILARIOUS that Gamespot scored this a 3/10 wtf
i remember thinking it was silly to be mad this takes place outside the actual town, considering they've been wanting to go outside silent hill forever now. i think its the logical next step.
I was so excited to see you cover this title, I liked it a lot besides some little things and wanted to hear a different take that doesn't focus on the younger target audience or the fact it's outside the town itself.
i really like the game, and i'm surprised you didn't dive into the theories about it yet
theres a video i saw on yt, a theory about maybe Anita or Amelia not existing, it's really interesting, something about that book on the game that says that the bigger the trauma, the more grandiose is the history the person creates to protect themselves on their minds, then you have Amelia having trauma about her brother, and maybe she created Anita on her head to have a narrative about her brother actually dying when she was young as a coping mechanism. Also the mother correlations between the two characters is really weird too, i'm pretty sure there's some pretty good theories that can be created from this game
I liked the game. Don't even mind the social media, teenage mental health spin on it. We've had enough Silent Hill games depicting 30 year old white guys. Also, i don't get why some was so pissed by the game not being in the Town of Silent Hill.
The franchise is about a supernatural overworld which have no real bearing in usual logic and nature laws.
Why would this literal parallel universe be physically linked to an actual location?
SH4 had Walter who obviously created his own Otherworld. Had nothing to do with Alessa.
But yeah, i do miss Silent Hill's cultish plots. But maybe we never see anything more about the old gods or people worshipping them.
What i thought was a missed opportunity though was that the sub-plot was more enticing than the actual one.
The ending we got was a bit flat, a lot of build-up, but no real climax. The subplot (what you could read in papers and notes) was alluded to Maya being a reincarnated woman who was accused of being a witch. Let's say that the Sakura creature was Maya actually trapping her tormentors in her otherworld to drive them to insanity and suicide by jumping of the building? One of the newspapers did say that a sleauth of teenagers had offed themselfs at just that rooftop. Another reason why i miss the supernatural elements of Silent Hill, and not only have the "it's in their head" type of deal all the time.
Glad to see a positive outlook on this game. I really liked it too and it's been living rent free in my head since. There's something captivating about it. Definitely surprised to see so many Team Silent faces in the dev team. I knew there were some old heads in there, but so many :O
Honestly I was really impressed by this game considering how bad Ascension was, and the fact that it's free. And I love the idea of the SH phenomenon, it's so freeing.
I enjoyed the rebirth element to the game. It shows off the power of modern technology and adds to the art
8:01 he looks like a normal space marine mixed with the 40,000 teminater armour/sort of looks like the primaris terminaters with 2 fists and 2 arm guns or 2 flamers=1 under the power fist,
mixed with the darkness demon/comic person/from The darkness.
(catching up on my watch later list so please forgive my late comments).
I had been thinking that A Short Message reminded me so much of the comics and how the powers of Silent Hill operated outside of/extended beyond the town. And how it functioned in SH2 and Downpour. What would you call that force? Environmental antagonist?
Loved the game and the soundtrack! I think the issue with people regarding silent hill is they hate the occult stories and just want "psychological stories" meaning they want Silent Hill 2 again but get mad and bash the game if it resembles SH2 🤷🏽♂️
I must find it :) i will find it thankyou so much muse i love you so much your fan always Daniel Meredith xo
There was a group of teens who hazed a kid basically until he died they did numerous things like dump water with bugs n fish paste I don’t wanna get into the detail but they basically got off scott free with nothing more then a few hours of community service it was because they’re parents where high paying n knew court officials. I think the game was inspired by the incident I think the bags represent how the kids had they’re anonymity in the photos n also how if it is online a lot of times u cannot trace who instigated the attacks. They also could be like the exocutioner hoods or pyramid heads mask as he was the exocutioner they could embody something close to that I always wanted to see more of Elssas story like how the bullies would treat her I think it ties into silent hill because of that. I had some really brutal experiences on the final year of highschool that hurt me beyond anything between that n everything that followed it I am almost not here because of it but I am still here because of my best friend as the protagonist is she was a caring friend she mourned n cared for her best friend. Very sad story I loved all the trippy swirling effects it’s good this was free though if it wasn’t after the mobile app idk would not be very good…
One day I hope to send u my series about the 7 deadly sins it is highly inspired off of silent hill n many ways I got the inspiration by watching your symbolism videos I hope u can decipher the nuance and see all of the religious allegories and deities I used for inspiration. The pilot will hopefully be done by the end of this summer
This game was not for me but this video helps me appreciate it more
I LOVED Sh4. I liked 1-3 but man. My friends back then didn't like it. It always stuck with me though. The art direction was really of it's time. Don't go out Walter! :)
I think it is decent.
Finally! TSM video. . can't wait to see what it's about! :D
EDIT: I was hoping the hear about some theories, but it was a great video!
You didn't mention Amelie once. . And that gives me a hint/hope that you came to the same conclusion as me and a couple of other people.
The people who are saying it's bad and shallow completely missed the deeper plot. . And I'm 99% sure that plot is intentional.
what plot ?
@@bombastik_bomb The secret plot.
It starts with. . How exactly did Anita get that letter.
I'm 95% sure it's not a fan theory.
>deeper plot
>Short Message
What?
@@arashdegreat Short message = A short message can save your life, a short message about suicide prevention, the game is short.
That doesn't mean it's not a silent hill game. . it still has a lot of detail and sub plots.
I think the short message looks, in fact, pretty good, but sadly, i wont be playing it, because i do not own a ps5, i'd love to see it on pc...
a Lot of people hated this game - but I loved it. It felt the most like a Silent Hill game than any of the other western releases.
Plus the fact that Akira and Ito worked on this game is proof it's a proper Silent Hill game. Also Free? The fan base are too toxic for this series.
maybe because konami's contract forces their employees to do things the way they want, and not the way the employees want or imagine with their skills ? i think you need to watch again the facial expressions of iti and yamaoka on the new games announcement. i've never seen such confused, and sad faces ever in my life.
9:53 so yes get the 4th 1.
Heeeh.935 again.
I thought it was great. I would have paid 5$ for it.
Was it perfect? Hell no. The voice acting, in the beginning especially, wasnt great. The lip sync was jarring, but didnt bother me too much. The mix of cg and real models gave me some uncanny valley issues until I got used to it. Anything I didn't originally like ended up fine after I got used to it, or it faded as I got into the story or improved. My biggest complaint at the begining was how much Anita monologs to herself. It sounded cheesey. Kids don't really talk like she does at first. But it got much better as the game went on
I loved the monster, which was at least original, pretty creepy, and had a direct relationship with the story.
I liked the phone going glitchy instead of the radio static. It felt like a good, modern, upgrade.
It was a great psychological horror that kids now a days ARE going to experience. (Edit: bullying, not suicide)The repeat deaths were horrible, which I liked. The visions of her mother and home life disturbed me ALOT actually, which was awesome.
I'm ok with Silent Hill becoming a 'mental disease' of sorts that can hit anyone. It will open up the series for more stories without leashing it to the town.
I have a little hope for Silent Hill
I’d hope the cult should still be the focus tho especially since the best one in the series 3 involves em
I love Muse videos.
I came away with many of the same feelings having played through this game. I was actually quite surprised by some of the deeply negative reactions to the game from some in the gaming space. There's a lot to like and better writing than I'd expected especially given the intensely inconsistent output of modern Konami. Ultimately, I think as you say, it's targeted towards a certain type of audience but I don't feel like that should exclude people from being able to empathise with the themes, I just think some of the criticisms showed a lack of emotional maturity on behalf of some individuals. Not to say the game is perfect and no one's allowed to dislike it, just that some reactions felt a bit weird.
Good game
19:31 nui!!!??,is she from hawii or a poliknesion island or related?...,
or does japan have the nui word too?...
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How do I play this? I don't see it on Steam
It's PS5 exclusive
@@VoidEntityShade Phooey 😞
17:42 did you say “WW2” era? It sounded like that I’m not sure if you said that but Mishima died in the 70s more or less as a response to the rapid westernization as a result of WW2.
21:35 inply for her?...
I don't care what anyone thinks. Silent Hill 1 was the best game of the series, next was 3 since it was a direct sequel to SH1. Those two deserve the remakes.
It bothers me to no end that the reception this game has received is so dismissive; I can't help chalking it up to the story being about teens and girls most of all, which is especially ridiculous when you consider that the third game also has a teen girl protagonist. While I can see some elements of the aesthetic and dialogue are a little on the nose, I honestly feel that a lot of the discourse surrounding The Short Message is very unfair. It's a rather hopeful hopeful story and the ending felt so cathartic and kind, I honestly never would have expected it out of a SH game, kudos to the devs.
Also it's free. Come on.
Question: Didn't you make a video arguing that there was no "Team Silent"? Is the title just clickbait or have you unearthed more info since that video?
People were far too harsh on short message, it was free and I really enjoyed it, and I think if the story and atmosphere are an indication of where silent hill is headed I’m okay with that.
P.T. was free, and for such a shirt simple sotry they managed to hook up a shit load of players on a drasticzlly sensitive theme of work overload behavior while it was supposed to be just a teaser of an engine...
@@bombastik_bomb pt was not free though, it was a playable test trial of a full game that was intended to be released at a price and to make money, short message is free
@@sasuketheestallion17 maybe do your research before saying anything knowing that Kojima himself elaborated that P.T. and Silent Hills have no canonical and direct relation, and that Silent Hills would have been enhanced by elements that were never in P.T.
it was a playble teaser of the updated fox engine, and make a free game using a generic story idea about crimes related to familicides. the game was free, and unrelated to the final product which kojima promised that he wanted people to shit their pants.
the short message is a free game for zoomers who pretend to have depression.
the reception the sh community gave this game is precisely why we will never have another silent hill game. Cursed if they don't, cursed if they do. Also people complaining about "silent hill going woke" due to the theming being bullying... like, grow up.
17:42 hes a dazine though.
------>pun thing.
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Day 1 SH fan here and I understand that this game was free but I literally fell asleep... thats not good🤷🏾
Great analysis and breakdown as always.
I can give credit that the devs who worked on this game. Really took inspiration from PT, but it shouldn't be a free game. The fact that it's a walking horror sim, and as you said that it should be a demo of this upcoming game. Lets not forget the Silent Hill Phenomena, where Konami try to retcon the entire story/lore of Silent Hill.
At least we're getting Silent Hill 2 Remake on the way. Hope that Blooper Team stick to the original game's source. Not sure how Silent Hill F will deliver. Hopefully they turn it into a classic fix camera survival horror game.
we are eating good silent hill fans =++=
13:40-14:45:I really don't think you are addressing the game's introduction to the so-called Silent Hill Phenomenon like some trick of a damaged mind instead of a supernatural phenomenon as described in the older games.
21:40: Still, it didn't even have to be that dramatic. I watched the game's playthrough around 18(gonna turn 19 soon God willing) and I found it(no offense to people who avoided life withdrawal this way) cringe.
More people would have tried it if it wasn't a ps5 exclusive
PT was PS4 exclusive.
@@Taniatruth and the PS4 was a popular console, the PS5 just isn't moving that many numbers, hence why some big third party exclusives have underperformed. Also, a lot of people haven't played PT too, but since it became really popular everyone at least watched a gameplay of that one
I think in this case a huge issue is the entire "Silent Hill Phenomenon" Thing. Where people see a fog, are just like, hallucinating a fog, rather than the fog actually being there. The previous games CONFIRM that there is a fog, so it doesn't make sense that people get tunnel vision and hallucinate it, with little to no cause for it.
The MC is seems more upset because...she has like no followers on Instagram...? Just...Not good...
It's not even subtle either, I feel like my hand is being held
I hated everything about this game besides the monster design, i thought it was cool. Just my opinion, it didn't handle the trauma well, its a hard topic and this wasn't great. Again, just my opinion, but i love your vids on SH Muse, I'll always watch them.❤idk why SH4 is so hated, compared to what we got next...Homecoming...well its a masterpiece compared to that, sorry if anyone likes that one but they really misunderstood the assignment, for me. Sorry im a SH snob, SH2 is still my fav horror game and the scene from SH in the beginning when you're trapped and all hell breaks loose before the diner, no horror game has ever made me feel that kind of fear, its iconic, I was young so i had to put it down just after the beginning scene and didn't pick it up again...I was only 11.
To a teen who "has no money" and doesn't skip a free game - an introduction like this says that SH is generic horror-themed indie-made walking sim. I will never understand this free game they dropped on us and I will never agree that a free game was just what SH franchise needed.
You could work for konami public relation.
This should not have been a silent hill game in any way. This was some weird experiment to see if consumers would be satisfied with low effort
I was waiting for some1 to make a video about it.
Is it even in silent hill?...
Its in germany.
Or did something wrong happen...
=it spread.
It’s not in Silent Hill nor is connected to the town in any way. It is however set in the sane universe, just in an area in Germany that’s currently under a curse similar to the one that’s permanently shrouding Silent Hill in fog.
silent hill in Bunbury lol
I hated this. I don't even recognize it as silent hill. Yeah it had fog spooky corridors, but that's it. I personally would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't attached to the silent hill name. I love the love that sh is getting right now but it's starting to become unrecognizable. Shoulda stopped at 3 or 4 at the latest
It doesn't matter where the supernatural elements come from though. I'd rather them not explaining it at all than to explain it in such a boring way. The appeal of these games is in its ambiguity and vagueness when it comes to these sort of things anyway.
I am a huge fan of the old games and I really wanted to like this game, but I couldn't. You said that the people didn't get the message of this game, I say the message was too on the nose, there is no subtext, they tell you everything you need to know, everything they feel, it's laughable at times.
The game had huge potential, the theme and message were powerful but they were all spelled out for you, lacking the subtlety of the original games.
The main character was ugly as well, not in "not sexy/pretty enough" way, the 3D model looked wonky, which I could have accepted, as you said, it was a free game.
Add that to the silly, on the nose story telling and the HORRENDOUS final chase, I could not enjoy this game as much as I hoped I would.
Still waiting for 'f' tho!
Also its fvcking hilarious that Gamespot gave this a 3/10 lol 🥴
You're brave, I'll give you that.
Oh god not another one. Ugh god why.
bruh, team silent is dead and gone.
I have no issue with a game being detached from the town, and in fact, I welcome it. But I really think it fumbled its execution. It had heart. I appreciate it being free considering its length. But holy crap was the narration not good, some of the cool areas you had to run through got repetitive after a while, and by time I was done with it... It was awful.
I went into it fully expecting to judge it on its own merits and not condemn it if it didn't feel like a Silent Hill game (and I knew it'd be a walking simulator, and I'm fine with that!), but oh boy... I get that the constant narration was meant to be more like angsty teen talk, but I really wish she didn't talk everything out. And the live action segments, I'm not against doing something like that but it was uncanny watching the dubbed over actress who's clearly not the one speaking.
Some of the visuals were again, really good even when at times certain parts were dragging. I loved the whole twist with the mom and really enjoyed the school segments. I was interested in the first person POV, and the theme was an interesting one with a cool concept to collect the photographs and gain memories. But it really feels watered down, and even if this might've been geared to get a new, younger audience in, it feels weak. Which is sad because it has a great message, an interesting ending, but I feel the execution could've been more.
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