this season made me A D O R E aja. she was definitely mistreated. i didn’t like thorgy when watching, but i soon found out that was because of the shitty editing
Same here . She actually picked Shangela to win when she was made to look like a salty bitch who wanted revenge on Shangela when that wasn't the case atall. The favouritism of Bebe pissed me off. Thorgy also asked for props and was denied, she asked if she could be part of the diva challenge and was told no.
Thorgy knew she was being set up and the producer tried to edit it making us think that’s she’s over thinking It... Well it didn’t work for me, I want Thorgy back!
Thorgy wasn't being set up! If she would have just sucked it up and given her performance as Stevie her all, she could have gone much further!! Whenever I listen to Fleetwood Mac or RuPaul's Born Naked, all I think of is Thorgy! She was still brilliant!
Luke Brandt she was given the weakest track like compared to bendela who had a campy role and Bebe who can just bounce up and down onstage with her music.
Honestly the problem with this show is that the judges can’t seem to actually judge. I’m right and we all know it. And I feel bad because the queens can’t explain why they’re right because then they’ll be given a shady edit or immediately placed in the bottom. I think this is true rigga morris
@@kotosqoposrly Who can forget? Also, they would always edit to make Tammie seem crazier. I mean, she's "out there," but she doesn't say things so randomly and out of context.
johnny baxter it was the snatch game ur literslly supposed to embody tje role u sre protesting queens have been eliminated in the snatch game episodes BECAUSE they were acting too much like themselves so saying aja was supposed to b acting more like herself in the snatch game makes literally zero sense ..
@@eli8329 right! in alyssa's as2 snatch game she literally only recited joan crawford's famous catchphrases completely out of context and everybody loved it... gee i wonder why aja didn't get the same praise despite her characterisation of crystal being 100% on point
Antonia Restrepo true, Alyssa did good just because she as a person is funny. Aja was fully in the character, she should've won so many more challenges. This show has always been stupidly rigged though, so many queens we're robbed of their rightful win, just because the other queen had a better ”lipsync” they could've been 4 times in the bottom bad and still won. (honestly, I'm just salty that gigi goode didn't win 😤)
@@dart3471 Hold on... You think Kameron Michaels / Rajah O'Hara could have won the crown on their seasons after lip synching 3/4 times? I agree with your Aja's argument completely tho
And Aja said at a gig in a club that Ru shouldn't have said about them not knowing their references when 1. She doesn't know half of the queen's names and 2. Aja literally introduced the majority of the viewers to Crystal LeBeija who's a trans, gay icon that not many people (including myself) had heard of before Aja played her for Snatch Game Also Aja's runway was the best looking in the ball challenge, whether it fit the theme or not, and the fact it *did* fit the theme made her elimination even worse
ObourSlushious Slushies she knew the name! She read it, she had just never heard it pronounced. That’s like even more frustrating. She is a young queen who did her effort to know her references and got mocked for it
@@DereBear yeah it's so stupid, especially when ru can't even pronounce simple words like dollar properly. give the girl a break. Aja did well and she had her references
@@DereBear Aja did so well to show that she knew her drag roots, and to showcase her knowledge about the culture surrounding the Studio 54 era. Aja is so smart and so talented (especially for a young queen) and they just didn't seem to want to acknowledge or embrace it.
That really was so weird! They praised her to the moon and back for her Patti Labelle and then proceeded to say "Chi Chi you are in the bottom 3", it was just so silly.
Judges: told Aja that she was in the bottom for not knowing her references Judges: told Gigi that she was in the top for not knowing her references (wearing a British Red Coat with no stars or stripes in a stars and stripes runway)
@@drew_jasso yeah but not for the dress , they didn't Even mentioned the fact that it literally didn't fit the category lol they like the dress and someone they forgot the category COMPLETLY
the only reason she did is because she didn’t send anyone but i think milk home (i think she did but i can’t remember) and it was obvious that Trixie was gonna win anyways.
@@teeceeemeeee well it's hard to say, the next challenge is an acting challenge, and Aja must make to the top 2 otherwise she will go home again like Morgan, although I'm a huge Aja fan, but honestly I don't think Aja will do a great job at an acting challenge, just like bachelor and the challenge she got to send home at s9
All Stars 3 top 5 in my opinion: Bendelecreme Shangela Thorgy Aja Trixie Imagine how much better the competition would have been if it was simply fair. Season 11 could've easily been one of the best seasons of drag race if it weren't for the producers.
I wish they’d just let it flow naturally. Who did the worst is in the bottom two. Who’s better in the lip sync moves on. Idk how many times they’ve saved queens from the bottom two that clearly deserved to be there. It ruins the point of the show. I’d rather have an honest show than the same exact drama every episode because they kept someone that should’ve gone home before snatch game.
So many people use loving Kennedy as an excuse for why she should keep going in AS3 but let’s be real- 90% of her performances in AS3 were average to lame.
i knew she wasn’t going to win when she was called to lipsync for the crown. she’s a dancer, so we all knew she was going to pull some dance stuff, which was a bad move with a semi-emotional song
kristina I mean, but so was Trixie like? I actually stopped watching the season with 2 episodes to spare cause I knew Trixie was gonna win and it just didn’t feel fair. Bendela and Shangela were actually doing AMAZINGLY. I know Trixie has a large fanbase and thats cool, but I never got why cause judging merely on her RPDR performances, wit, humor and looks?... oof.
Poor Aja, she really amped up her game so much so I thought she would be top 4. Bendelacreme was a definite favourite but she did have talent though and her snatch game was superb the second time around aswell. Maggie Smith and Paul Lynd were spot on impressions. I'm glad Milk left though because she was delusional. Yeah Milk is stunning and has OK runways but Aja was better. Aja, Chi chi and Thorgy were definitely used for filler and cast aside. Bebe didn't deserve to be there. She won the first season, that's enough. It's egotistical to go back a second time just because she only won 20k in Season - 1. Ruuude...
I love Aja so much. They are so talented and genuinely funny and touching and precious. I am so tired of people not seeing their value and their hard work. A queen who create their own look, have a fantastic sense of fashion, can dance and has fantastic energy? Come on..
can we discuss shuga’s mistreatment? she did great in the challenge, just not AS great as her teammates. whereas, the entire other team did bad. riggor morris.
Shuga didn’t just get robbed in challenges. Shuga got robbed of screen time all together. In the draglympics challenge, I kept forgetting Shuga was there not because she wasn’t good enough to pull focus, but because she was hardly onscreen at all. Also if you watch Shuga’s review of the police improv episode, she said there was a whole bit where she escaped the cop car and got chased that they just didn’t include
Me: *reads the title* Me: THIS IS WHY WE STAN Also we all know Aja should have been top 2 with Dela in episode 2 and the bottom should have been Kennedy and Milk.
I was honestly shocked that Shangela was in the top 2. Like her look didn't even read christmas to me atleast, and she relied way too much on her gimmick...
@@knino7763 yeah I thought Shangela's look was a weird STI????? Closest I got to guessing it was the space runway but apparently it was like a bauble on a Christmas tree??
@ I mean Aja and Dela yes, would I have been mad? No. My issue with Shangela is people called her robbed but imo she was never the best of a single challenge, she was always the runner up imo. She's way more talented than me though so what do I know lol
When I met Thorgy in Tokyo a couple weeks ago, I literally said, “First of all, All Stars? Rigga Morris!” You’re so right. And Aja consistently turned looks and she performed really well for the whole time she was there. Totally agreed that she did AMAZINGLY between seasons!
The team idea was SUCH A BAD IDEA like ok for a challenge but the entire season??? And they don’t even really get to “pick” who they were paired with... idk I wasn’t in to it
I couldn't stomach watching Thorgy being mistreated on this show. She was *the* most entertaining queen in BK pre Drag Race run. My friends and I would always say she would win the show if she went on. I would go to her (and Ruby Roo's!) drag nights every Monday in BK at TNT and couldn't believe I wasn't paying for a ticket! Such a fun, funny entertaining night from an amazing talent!
I totally agree, I really loved aja in As3, and it was so sad that she was low in the disco episode, cause out of all looks hers was my favorite. This ist really bullsh*it The show changed so much though the past few years, a big part of it is now favoritism, not the best but also the most popular will come far... 😔
Okay so I’m still not over Aja and thorgy going home so before even watching this video I’m already getting heated and I have so many thoughts and emotions running through my head
Chi Chi should've been top 2 on episode 2. Also, when they critiqued Aja because her can advertised her as "sweet" while they thought of her as spicy was complete and utter BS. The challenge was to make a can that the queen thought would represent them well, so if Aja thinks she's sweet, then it was in her rights to make a sweets themed can.
@@mdaly5720 True, I don't know how Shangela won by acting as herself. Even Manila did a better impersonation of Shangela doing Tina than Shangela actually doing Tina...
True Bebe lied to the judges saying she made her outfit knowing Aja did and then eliminated her. I think she did that cause Aja would’ve went off on her once they were back in the work room. Cause Bebe did nothing
THANK YOU THANK YOU *THANK YOU*. I've been saying forever that Thorgy and Aja were robbed, ugh. Everybody just talks about Shangela but they knew damn well Thorgy was set to go home in the first episode
Your points are so spot on. Bebe and Shangela did not deserve the praise they got this season. Certain roles assigned were lame; people can be handed such better content to work with. How could they not let Thorgy use witch stuff? Stevie was literally a witch on AHS. I didn’t like Aja at all her season, but on All Stars I was quickly a big fan of her growth. When Morgan got to come back I was like 🙄.
i genuinely hate it when producers treat us as buttheads. That shit with Phi Phi on AS2, Aja and Thorgy, whole fucking AS4... Somebody tell them please that we got EYES and BRAIN and we can recognize bullshit on our screens
Both eliminations were so random, I think the producers already have the storyline and the eliminations planned and they manipulate things to maje them happen. Also what do you mean they wouldn't have won the season? They absolutely could have if Trixie did LOL
i mean i think trixie deserved to win, especially at that point in her career, but she was definitely set up to win. like for sure. i knew she would when Kayta didn’t win on As2
@@justaroselps1579 monique had better stats then monet, also monique shouldn't have received either of her bottom2 placements. she landed in the bottom for the roast because of a stupid twist that didnt make any sense and compared to naomi trinity and valentina she killed to roast. and the girl group challenge was straight up tomfoolery, her lyrics were great and her vocals sounded amazing. landing in the bottom for the judges not getting a reference is stupid. mistreatment doesn't only imply how the show went but how they were *mistreated* on the show in their placements. wtf.
nectarine sims I disagree the last comment, I looove Monique, but that outfit was basic, keep calm gurl. Buuut yeah, she sould been in the top 2 of the season.
@@maybealdoaarath which outfit was basic- her makeover? monet literally wore two bodysuits how is that any less basic. also how in the hell is something that requires to be a makeover (since it wouldnt make sense when the other person isnt there), that hasntt been seen/done before in 10 regular and 3 all stars season basic. it also perfectly reflected her style and i find it so creative.
I was like 100% agreeing with Thorgy’s complaints when she was assigned Stevie Nicks I was like ya I wouldn’t know how to make any of that funny or stand out either when other parts were written so much funnier without those queens needing the find the comedy cause it was all written and choreographed into the performance for them it was just unfair
It’s time that All Stars will take a break and start coming back every two seasons, so we will get queens who are actually worthy of a second chance and this fuckery will stop.
When I first saw Thorgy in her original season I found her pretty annoying and unlikable. After spending some time learning about her and how the editing of the show works though, I empathise with her a lot. Like damn, I'd be frustrated too! They really did her dirty.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this. Literally seeing who everyone got and then get to Thorgy and she gets Stevie? I met thorgy at my local drag bar a few years ago right after all stars 3 and she was AMAZING. So kind, so funny, and so positive. Always a thorgy fan 💕
I just got to the part where it mentions the props with Divas live, Trixie actually said that the guitar she had was actually her guitar she brought with her. I doubt the other two brought dancers and a disappearing microphone with them but I thought I would point it out
I honestly don't know what Thorgy could have possibly done. She didn't had any control over the Diva, the lyrics, the coreography... And she still did a great Stevie Nicks. What else did they expect?
I know I'm waaay late to the party but no one was more robbed in something like this was Katya playing Princess Dianna. They made that impossible for her to play that up
exactly, Stevie is a character that was completely doable with a fun script and good choreography. Thorgy could have done a lot but didn’t and then blamed her failure on Stevie nicks because in her mind she’s always set up to loose! In season 8 she was always mad about bob stealing the spotlight and how that was unfair to her- its not unfair bobs just funnier
I love Aja so much !!! She always have this amazing look and make up and then the judges are backing her :s stop watching the show because of it. Love her
I'm the biggest stevie Nick's fan and was so impressed by how well Thorgy got her down to a t from the looks to her stage presence she felt embodied stevie! But to put her in a category of divas is completely incorrect and you can't make her funny, she's doesn't have that kind of character so thorgy was always going to fail. The biggest let down for her as she did the best impression out of all the other queens.
This video was basically just everything wrong with modern day drag race and I agree wholeheartedly. It would be interesting for a video regarding everyone that said the show would set them up to fail and actually failed because of it with all the people you mentioned
Ajas critiques in the art pop ball about her not knowing her references were just unnecessary. They just kept ragging her over and OVER again. it was like adores critiques in as2
imo aja should've won snatch game ( over shangela), won the ball (over Bebe), and won the kitty girl challenge. I really like your point that the producers didn't expect her to come back so strong and so they had no problem sending her home, which is a huge bummer.
9:11 the difference is that Shangela actually got read for looking bad but the other two were far from being 70s. At all. The form was popular in the 70s hell Trixie’s outfit is borderline late 60s the hair but her bell bottoms are the only thing keeping it from being basic.
I am not a big All Stars 2 fan, but I’ll set that aside for my point that everything started going wrong with All Stars when they started to release a new one every year The wait of 4 years for all stars seasons (4 years between season 1 of drag race and all stars 1 and 4 years between all stars 1 and 2) was perfect and it should have been maintained
I absolutely agree and to this day my favorite was Aja it was impeccable her impersonation of AW, and I ALWAYS thought that thorny Thor did a REALLY GOOD job with SN, always, I actually had no idea they put her down I don't remember watching the judges judging it, but my thoughts were these. I even thought to myself, wow for a singer that never dances or moves really, thorny really tried the best very very best to give SN some movement and thought Stevie N should have been appreciative of it if she watched thorgy, and now that I'm listening to you it memes me so sad and so furious that they didn't help thorny bring out whatever she wanted to make the representation as lively as she could the fact all the other had props to use but thorny was denied its enfuriating , excuse my bad English I know it's pretty bad hope y'all understand, there's something about rupaul and Michele visage especially I don't like, if my sixth sense feels uncomfortable every time I look at them then I must be right I'm hardly ever wrong... so what you're saying here I didn't know and I'm so friguin mad, thorny and Aja are absolutely awesome ❤️amazing queens who were NOT given the chance to do better
I was really excited for what Thorgy would have shown throughout the season had she been on longer, but she was ultimately screwed to the point of no return on AS3. Aja was the person I was really rooting for (even though I am and was a huge Trixie fan) because it was their runway looks that excited me to watch the show. Aja was definitely a top contender and I wanted to see how far their run would be on the show and since they got cut so soon, I felt like there was a lot more to be desired. I remember being so frustrated with AS3 watching it because it was formatted in a way that did not showcase the queens and their talent well and had a condescending negativity about it. Aja was the queen that carried the season for me.
Obviously this is a show and they (and the performers) conduct things in their own both chaotic and planned ways - but in my opinion, Thorgy should have at least lasted another episode and Aja was deserving of the final four. There was obvious favoritism for Bebe just because she was the original winner of the show, and the show - or the girls - had favoritism for Kennedy. Also Aja would have been the best contender to return if it wasn't for Ben's personal guilt reason for bringing Morgan back. (and we wouldn't have had that issue if Milk was kicked off in the first episode to begin with) *sigh*
Thorgy was not given a fair game. They know how talented she is but they also know she is vocal about everything and that gave them a chance to edit soundbites and mold her demise.
I feel so bad for both of them. They are on my top 10 favorite queens and the fact that they got underappreciated sucks... Aja literally could have won the season and Thorgy had the potential to go really far. Hope that they both get the crown they deserve on the future.
Delta, Mariah, Thorgy, The Vixen, Raja O'Harrah - the queens you mention that are know for their comments about the show - PLEASE make a video about that!
this season made me A D O R E aja. she was definitely mistreated. i didn’t like thorgy when watching, but i soon found out that was because of the shitty editing
Same here . She actually picked Shangela to win when she was made to look like a salty bitch who wanted revenge on Shangela when that wasn't the case atall. The favouritism of Bebe pissed me off. Thorgy also asked for props and was denied, she asked if she could be part of the diva challenge and was told no.
Yes gurl. I thought she was okay on her season but on all stars it's like wow Aja okay you aren't playing around actually haha
Thorgy knew she was being set up and the producer tried to edit it making us think that’s she’s over thinking It...
Well it didn’t work for me, I want Thorgy back!
Yesss!!!
Thorgy wasn't being set up! If she would have just sucked it up and given her performance as Stevie her all, she could have gone much further!! Whenever I listen to Fleetwood Mac or RuPaul's Born Naked, all I think of is Thorgy! She was still brilliant!
Luke Brandt this is the dumbest fucking comment ever, did you even watch the video?
I agree.
Luke Brandt she was given the weakest track like compared to bendela who had a campy role and Bebe who can just bounce up and down onstage with her music.
Honestly the problem with this show is that the judges can’t seem to actually judge. I’m right and we all know it. And I feel bad because the queens can’t explain why they’re right because then they’ll be given a shady edit or immediately placed in the bottom. I think this is true rigga morris
I agree, i wish the judges were people who actually know what they are talking about, also they should really start doing a more honest editing
I only watch the show for the queens, honestly!
@@MrLeonardo9 yeah me too
@@kotosqoposrly yes iconic moment
@@kotosqoposrly Who can forget? Also, they would always edit to make Tammie seem crazier. I mean, she's "out there," but she doesn't say things so randomly and out of context.
Thorgy literally said “I feel like I’m being set up to fail..”
As a fan of Thorgy from her og season, I totally got where her mindset was. She could sense the sabotage. Why Stevie was even in that mix was so BS.
EXACTLY. Why is Stevie part of that group of Women to represent? One of the parts of this show I disliked for fuckin sure.
I also think they mistreated Aja on snatch game, because they hardly showed any of her and apparently the parts they did show weren’t her best.
I remember watching the episode and forgetting Aja was even there due to how little they kept showing of her.
johnny baxter it was the snatch game ur literslly supposed to embody tje role u sre protesting queens have been eliminated in the snatch game episodes BECAUSE they were acting too much like themselves so saying aja was supposed to b acting more like herself in the snatch game makes literally zero sense ..
@@eli8329 right! in alyssa's as2 snatch game she literally only recited joan crawford's famous catchphrases completely out of context and everybody loved it... gee i wonder why aja didn't get the same praise despite her characterisation of crystal being 100% on point
Antonia Restrepo true, Alyssa did good just because she as a person is funny. Aja was fully in the character, she should've won so many more challenges.
This show has always been stupidly rigged though, so many queens we're robbed of their rightful win, just because the other queen had a better ”lipsync” they could've been 4 times in the bottom bad and still won. (honestly, I'm just salty that gigi goode didn't win 😤)
@@dart3471 Hold on... You think Kameron Michaels / Rajah O'Hara could have won the crown on their seasons after lip synching 3/4 times?
I agree with your Aja's argument completely tho
And Aja said at a gig in a club that Ru shouldn't have said about them not knowing their references when 1. She doesn't know half of the queen's names and 2. Aja literally introduced the majority of the viewers to Crystal LeBeija who's a trans, gay icon that not many people (including myself) had heard of before Aja played her for Snatch Game
Also Aja's runway was the best looking in the ball challenge, whether it fit the theme or not, and the fact it *did* fit the theme made her elimination even worse
Josh Hodson so many of her outfits were amazing. The hair challenge!!
I wanted so bad to be able to respond this with that gif of Nina Bonina Brown pointing and shaking her head in approval at the reunion! hahaha
@@MrLeonardo9 literally my go to gif and general mood😂😂😂
@@joshhodson5335 I'm glad you were able to get the one gif I had in mind! I'm not good at speaking English
@@MrLeonardo9 that gif somes up my whole life so I obviously knew the one😂😂also your English is really good
Aja’s studio 54 look was ICONIC and all the references were on point, even if she didn’t have the names right she SLAYED.
ObourSlushious Slushies she knew the name! She read it, she had just never heard it pronounced. That’s like even more frustrating. She is a young queen who did her effort to know her references and got mocked for it
@@DereBear yeah it's so stupid, especially when ru can't even pronounce simple words like dollar properly. give the girl a break. Aja did well and she had her references
@@DereBear Aja did so well to show that she knew her drag roots, and to showcase her knowledge about the culture surrounding the Studio 54 era. Aja is so smart and so talented (especially for a young queen) and they just didn't seem to want to acknowledge or embrace it.
@@DereBear And for Aja's snatch game , she did Crystal Labeija well and that is a reference that a lot of new queens dont remember .
anime death stare She might not have had as many jokes as Dela or Shangela, but she absolutely LIVED Crystal. It was a really great performance
Chi chi was mistreated too! Her Patti labelle was good
That really was so weird! They praised her to the moon and back for her Patti Labelle and then proceeded to say "Chi Chi you are in the bottom 3", it was just so silly.
Everyone did well; there weren’t really any bottoms that week
@@andym2498 except for serena
Is there anything else besides that she did good in and don't say out of opinion be honest is there really anything else
Unpopular opinion, Milk must have been in the bottom instead of chichi in the Episode one, the Talent Show
Judges: told Aja that she was in the bottom for not knowing her references
Judges: told Gigi that she was in the top for not knowing her references (wearing a British Red Coat with no stars or stripes in a stars and stripes runway)
Sis. The favoritism.
Pug Dad actually Gigi was in the bottom 4 in that episode
@@drew_jasso Should've been in the bottom 2.
Francisco Teixeira Gigi's Button -Bow- Runaway
@@drew_jasso yeah but not for the dress , they didn't Even mentioned the fact that it literally didn't fit the category lol they like the dress and someone they forgot the category COMPLETLY
As much as I love Kennedy she was the Roxxxy Andrews of this season. I still don’t understand how she made it all the way to the top 2.
the only reason she did is because she didn’t send anyone but i think milk home (i think she did but i can’t remember) and it was obvious that Trixie was gonna win anyways.
If they sent Aja back instead of Morgan, you bet your ass she would have knocked off Kennedy for top4. But that's not what happened. :c
Thea Celestino if anyone was robbed at all it was aja. she was robbed of the opportunity.
@@teeceeemeeee well it's hard to say, the next challenge is an acting challenge, and Aja must make to the top 2 otherwise she will go home again like Morgan, although I'm a huge Aja fan, but honestly I don't think Aja will do a great job at an acting challenge, just like bachelor and the challenge she got to send home at s9
Aja's admiration for Trixie is literally the cutest thing I've seen on drag race.
All Stars 3 top 5 in my opinion:
Bendelecreme
Shangela
Thorgy
Aja
Trixie
Imagine how much better the competition would have been if it was simply fair. Season 11 could've easily been one of the best seasons of drag race if it weren't for the producers.
I wish they’d just let it flow naturally. Who did the worst is in the bottom two. Who’s better in the lip sync moves on. Idk how many times they’ve saved queens from the bottom two that clearly deserved to be there. It ruins the point of the show. I’d rather have an honest show than the same exact drama every episode because they kept someone that should’ve gone home before snatch game.
yesyesyeees. i love kennedy but i have to agree on this. thorgy had so much to show omg
I’d love that top 5
Baye Maclean Everyone would, it’s the top 5 we deserved
Thorgy is notttttt better than Trixie
So many people use loving Kennedy as an excuse for why she should keep going in AS3 but let’s be real- 90% of her performances in AS3 were average to lame.
Did we watch the same AS?
She was the funniest on the dating show
bebe was average throughout the entire show!!
i knew she wasn’t going to win when she was called to lipsync for the crown. she’s a dancer, so we all knew she was going to pull some dance stuff, which was a bad move with a semi-emotional song
kristina I mean, but so was Trixie like? I actually stopped watching the season with 2 episodes to spare cause I knew Trixie was gonna win and it just didn’t feel fair. Bendela and Shangela were actually doing AMAZINGLY. I know Trixie has a large fanbase and thats cool, but I never got why cause judging merely on her RPDR performances, wit, humor and looks?... oof.
Aja should've been high, and Milk should've been in the bottom instead of Thorgy.
Agreed
Poor Aja, she really amped up her game so much so I thought she would be top 4. Bendelacreme was a definite favourite but she did have talent though and her snatch game was superb the second time around aswell. Maggie Smith and Paul Lynd were spot on impressions. I'm glad Milk left though because she was delusional. Yeah Milk is stunning and has OK runways but Aja was better.
Aja, Chi chi and Thorgy were definitely used for filler and cast aside. Bebe didn't deserve to be there. She won the first season, that's enough. It's egotistical to go back a second time just because she only won 20k in Season - 1. Ruuude...
honestly speaking, i’m not really an aja person but she deserves another chance on all stars
I highly doubt Aja will ever go back
@@MissLittleHappyness she doesn't need to
To be mistreated yet again?
She was on All Stars, that's what this video is about! Check the title of this video lol!
@@iamnotanaddict2905 no like ANOTHER chance
omfg, you did NOT just call bebe's look "tentacruel cosplay" 😂
I love Aja so much. They are so talented and genuinely funny and touching and precious. I am so tired of people not seeing their value and their hard work.
A queen who create their own look, have a fantastic sense of fashion, can dance and has fantastic energy? Come on..
can we discuss shuga’s mistreatment? she did great in the challenge, just not AS great as her teammates. whereas, the entire other team did bad. riggor morris.
She also got robbed of a high placement or even a win in the rusical
ierpier AGREED
@@ierpier and let's not even start with the snatch game
Shuga didn’t just get robbed in challenges. Shuga got robbed of screen time all together. In the draglympics challenge, I kept forgetting Shuga was there not because she wasn’t good enough to pull focus, but because she was hardly onscreen at all. Also if you watch Shuga’s review of the police improv episode, she said there was a whole bit where she escaped the cop car and got chased that they just didn’t include
@@llamaarmyaldc9436 YESSS
Aja was robbed so violently I can't even believe it
Once they’re done pulling queens from AS1 I can see them pulling Tatianna, Alyssa, thorgy, and Aja. Shangela probably will never go back.
Please, no more Shangela. If she does come back and loose again, we will never hear the end of "SHANGELA WAS ROBBED!".
I don’t think Tati or Alyssa would go back
Patricia Ordaz I doubt any would go back but Aja. The rest already figured out they’ll never win the crown.
Aja won't come back either
I can see them doing that by All Stars 7 or 8...
Me: *reads the title*
Me: THIS IS WHY WE STAN
Also we all know Aja should have been top 2 with Dela in episode 2 and the bottom should have been Kennedy and Milk.
I was honestly shocked that Shangela was in the top 2. Like her look didn't even read christmas to me atleast, and she relied way too much on her gimmick...
Milk? Don’t you know that she was told by a friend of a friend of a friend of Celine that her impression was good?
@@knino7763 yeah I thought Shangela's look was a weird STI?????
Closest I got to guessing it was the space runway but apparently it was like a bauble on a Christmas tree??
@@knino7763 Shangela's drag is gimmicks.. On Drag Race anyway, idk about outside of DR because I never warmed to her but I hope she's doing well
@ I mean Aja and Dela yes, would I have been mad? No.
My issue with Shangela is people called her robbed but imo she was never the best of a single challenge, she was always the runner up imo. She's way more talented than me though so what do I know lol
I felt so bad for thorgy on as3 it was sad what they did to her
Ill never get over the fuckery of all starz 3
Omg I know, tragic, what a mess.
Monique’s redemption is what Aja DESERVED. And I’m mad as hell
When I met Thorgy in Tokyo a couple weeks ago, I literally said, “First of all, All Stars? Rigga Morris!” You’re so right.
And Aja consistently turned looks and she performed really well for the whole time she was there. Totally agreed that she did AMAZINGLY between seasons!
You need to make a video about Pandora Boxx, about how she was do in All Stars 1 if there weren’t teams
Mariano Posse I second that
She’d be eliminated second after mimi
@@danclayton9551 yas
The team idea was SUCH A BAD IDEA like ok for a challenge but the entire season??? And they don’t even really get to “pick” who they were paired with... idk I wasn’t in to it
@@danclayton9551 nah, probably Tammie. Pandora's fierce she would've made it far tbh
I couldn't stomach watching Thorgy being mistreated on this show. She was *the* most entertaining queen in BK pre Drag Race run. My friends and I would always say she would win the show if she went on. I would go to her (and Ruby Roo's!) drag nights every Monday in BK at TNT and couldn't believe I wasn't paying for a ticket! Such a fun, funny entertaining night from an amazing talent!
Uckey Lee more like Uckey Tea because this is piping hot truth you're spilling right here
I totally agree, I really loved aja in As3, and it was so sad that she was low in the disco episode, cause out of all looks hers was my favorite. This ist really bullsh*it
The show changed so much though the past few years, a big part of it is now favoritism, not the best but also the most popular will come far... 😔
Emre Inan I agree her disco was way better then Kennedy’s
Aja's one of the most robbed queens alongside max, acid and scarlet
Her snatch game and her look were better than Robbie's, Robbie was safe for NO REASON
How was Max robbed?
What I meant to say was that these queens had way better track records than some other queens who stayed longer in their season
The fanbase uses the word robbed too strongly for white queens
Max robbed...lololol
The Top 4 for All Stars 3 should've been:
BenDelaCreme
Shangela
Aja
And either Thorgy or Trixie
Okay so I’m still not over Aja and thorgy going home so before even watching this video I’m already getting heated and I have so many thoughts and emotions running through my head
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THORGY BEING ROBBED
Chi Chi should've been top 2 on episode 2.
Also, when they critiqued Aja because her can advertised her as "sweet" while they thought of her as spicy was complete and utter BS. The challenge was to make a can that the queen thought would represent them well, so if Aja thinks she's sweet, then it was in her rights to make a sweets themed can.
According to me, All Stars 3 is the most UNFAIR season from Drag Race of ALL. TIME. Period.
I think that Aja was the most robbed queen on AS3 Because of Bebe and then her kitty girl Act Like if you agree
Kai The Simmer she should have been top 2 in Snatch Game her Crystal Labeija was On Point
@@mdaly5720 Yea
@@mdaly5720
True, I don't know how Shangela won by acting as herself. Even Manila did a better impersonation of Shangela doing Tina than Shangela actually doing Tina...
Mr. Daly, Jr. please you saw one answer from her and it was just her quoting crystal she also never interacted with others
True Bebe lied to the judges saying she made her outfit knowing Aja did and then eliminated her. I think she did that cause Aja would’ve went off on her once they were back in the work room. Cause Bebe did nothing
Aja’s snatch game was so on key with Crystal Lebeja in the movie the queen 1968
Both of their eliminations made me SO mad
THANK YOU THANK YOU *THANK YOU*. I've been saying forever that Thorgy and Aja were robbed, ugh. Everybody just talks about Shangela but they knew damn well Thorgy was set to go home in the first episode
Sometimes I wonder if Bendelacreme left because she was sick of the producers' hijinks. She kept winning even the times she barely tried.
I can't believe Bebe got so far. I would have LOVED to have seen Thorgy in The Bitchelor
Okay the description is everything.
Is next video about VALENTINA?
Jk pretty sure it’s gia
M.S or ferrah
I think, it's Monique
Monique or Farrah
I think it’s about Jasmine...
Jk who HONESTLY thought Jasmine could win?
it's most likely manila or gia
I actually get so mad seeing this video. Like, I knew they were mistreated, but it's a lot.
Thanks for making this video 💛
Ok But what if Thorgy Thor had the windmachine
The Mistreatment of Monique Heart on Season 10 & All-Stars 4
Somewhat Successful I love Monet, but if there was a double win, it should’ve been her and trinity.
I have never been more outraged in my life than during aja’s elimination
What if NPG wasn’t from Atlanta Georgia
Im hoping that means Nicole Paige Brooks
Your points are so spot on. Bebe and Shangela did not deserve the praise they got this season. Certain roles assigned were lame; people can be handed such better content to work with. How could they not let Thorgy use witch stuff? Stevie was literally a witch on AHS. I didn’t like Aja at all her season, but on All Stars I was quickly a big fan of her growth. When Morgan got to come back I was like 🙄.
i genuinely hate it when producers treat us as buttheads. That shit with Phi Phi on AS2, Aja and Thorgy, whole fucking AS4... Somebody tell them please that we got EYES and BRAIN and we can recognize bullshit on our screens
Read the title and insta liked it.
I waited for someone to speak about it. Because of shitty judging and unfair challanges this is the worst all stars season on so many levels.
Both eliminations were so random, I think the producers already have the storyline and the eliminations planned and they manipulate things to maje them happen.
Also what do you mean they wouldn't have won the season?
They absolutely could have if Trixie did LOL
i mean i think trixie deserved to win, especially at that point in her career, but she was definitely set up to win. like for sure. i knew she would when Kayta didn’t win on As2
trixie really won this season, wow life is crazy
cant wait for the mistreatment of gia or monique - i bet it all on monique. (our robbed all stars winner smh)
Um no. Monet and Trinity had much better track records BAHAHA
@@justaroselps1579 monique had better stats then monet, also monique shouldn't have received either of her bottom2 placements. she landed in the bottom for the roast because of a stupid twist that didnt make any sense and compared to naomi trinity and valentina she killed to roast. and the girl group challenge was straight up tomfoolery, her lyrics were great and her vocals sounded amazing. landing in the bottom for the judges not getting a reference is stupid. mistreatment doesn't only imply how the show went but how they were *mistreated* on the show in their placements. wtf.
not to mention that monet in no way deserved to be in the top in the makeover over monique.
nectarine sims I disagree the last comment, I looove Monique, but that outfit was basic, keep calm gurl.
Buuut yeah, she sould been in the top 2 of the season.
@@maybealdoaarath which outfit was basic- her makeover? monet literally wore two bodysuits how is that any less basic. also how in the hell is something that requires to be a makeover (since it wouldnt make sense when the other person isnt there), that hasntt been seen/done before in 10 regular and 3 all stars season basic. it also perfectly reflected her style and i find it so creative.
I cackled at work hearing you say "Tentacruel Cosplay"
I was like 100% agreeing with Thorgy’s complaints when she was assigned Stevie Nicks I was like ya I wouldn’t know how to make any of that funny or stand out either when other parts were written so much funnier without those queens needing the find the comedy cause it was all written and choreographed into the performance for them it was just unfair
It’s time that All Stars will take a break and start coming back every two seasons, so we will get queens who are actually worthy of a second chance and this fuckery will stop.
and in the words of Aja "Fuck a plastic crown, I'm still the queen"
👏🏻👏🏻
Have you thought about making drag race thailand related stuff?
When I first saw Thorgy in her original season I found her pretty annoying and unlikable. After spending some time learning about her and how the editing of the show works though, I empathise with her a lot. Like damn, I'd be frustrated too! They really did her dirty.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this. Literally seeing who everyone got and then get to Thorgy and she gets Stevie? I met thorgy at my local drag bar a few years ago right after all stars 3 and she was AMAZING. So kind, so funny, and so positive. Always a thorgy fan 💕
Oh yeah the thing with Bebe and Aja made me so angry oh my god
I just got to the part where it mentions the props with Divas live, Trixie actually said that the guitar she had was actually her guitar she brought with her. I doubt the other two brought dancers and a disappearing microphone with them but I thought I would point it out
Your sarcasm is so good -- especially with your Slavic accent.
I honestly don't know what Thorgy could have possibly done. She didn't had any control over the Diva, the lyrics, the coreography... And she still did a great Stevie Nicks. What else did they expect?
A JUICY COUTURE JUMPSUIT IM CRYING 😂😂😂
I just realized that RPDR really is the gay equivalent to sports
Is nobody gonna talk about the description for this video? 😂
Had to scroll all the way up, read, laugh and scroll back down to thanks you for pointing that out!
I loved seeing Aja’s glow up.
I know I'm waaay late to the party but no one was more robbed in something like this was Katya playing Princess Dianna. They made that impossible for her to play that up
exactly, Stevie is a character that was completely doable with a fun script and good choreography. Thorgy could have done a lot but didn’t and then blamed her failure on Stevie nicks because in her mind she’s always set up to loose! In season 8 she was always mad about bob stealing the spotlight and how that was unfair to her- its not unfair bobs just funnier
I love Aja so much !!! She always have this amazing look and make up and then the judges are backing her :s stop watching the show because of it. Love her
Kennedy is so massively overrated
And Thorgy is so massively underrated
Speedy Quick i don't even think kennedy has that funny or great of a personality...
give me attention season 7 of untucked, ugliest dress. she’s funny there. kinda.
I'm the biggest stevie Nick's fan and was so impressed by how well Thorgy got her down to a t from the looks to her stage presence she felt embodied stevie! But to put her in a category of divas is completely incorrect and you can't make her funny, she's doesn't have that kind of character so thorgy was always going to fail. The biggest let down for her as she did the best impression out of all the other queens.
Aja was royally screwed over! Based on all your videos of AS3, I am making my own scoreboard for it that is so much better than the actual one!
Monique was robbed.
If i go on Drag Race, I want to be like Thorgy and call out The Favouritism
#JusticeForThorgy
Aja should've been brought back instead of Morgan you literally can't change my mind
This video was basically just everything wrong with modern day drag race and I agree wholeheartedly. It would be interesting for a video regarding everyone that said the show would set them up to fail and actually failed because of it with all the people you mentioned
Ajas critiques in the art pop ball about her not knowing her references were just unnecessary. They just kept ragging her over and OVER again. it was like adores critiques in as2
imo aja should've won snatch game ( over shangela), won the ball (over Bebe), and won the kitty girl challenge. I really like your point that the producers didn't expect her to come back so strong and so they had no problem sending her home, which is a huge bummer.
9:11 the difference is that Shangela actually got read for looking bad but the other two were far from being 70s. At all. The form was popular in the 70s hell Trixie’s outfit is borderline late 60s the hair but her bell bottoms are the only thing keeping it from being basic.
WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO MAKE THIS VIDEO
I am not a big All Stars 2 fan, but I’ll set that aside for my point that everything started going wrong with All Stars when they started to release a new one every year
The wait of 4 years for all stars seasons (4 years between season 1 of drag race and all stars 1 and 4 years between all stars 1 and 2) was perfect and it should have been maintained
I absolutely agree and to this day my favorite was Aja it was impeccable her impersonation of AW, and I ALWAYS thought that thorny Thor did a REALLY GOOD job with SN, always, I actually had no idea they put her down I don't remember watching the judges judging it, but my thoughts were these. I even thought to myself, wow for a singer that never dances or moves really, thorny really tried the best very very best to give SN some movement and thought Stevie N should have been appreciative of it if she watched thorgy, and now that I'm listening to you it memes me so sad and so furious that they didn't help thorny bring out whatever she wanted to make the representation as lively as she could the fact all the other had props to use but thorny was denied its enfuriating , excuse my bad English I know it's pretty bad hope y'all understand, there's something about rupaul and Michele visage especially I don't like, if my sixth sense feels uncomfortable every time I look at them then I must be right I'm hardly ever wrong... so what you're saying here I didn't know and I'm so friguin mad, thorny and Aja are absolutely awesome ❤️amazing queens who were NOT given the chance to do better
To ve fair, that guitar was Trixie's. But yeah, Thorgy was set up to fail
I was really excited for what Thorgy would have shown throughout the season had she been on longer, but she was ultimately screwed to the point of no return on AS3.
Aja was the person I was really rooting for (even though I am and was a huge Trixie fan) because it was their runway looks that excited me to watch the show. Aja was definitely a top contender and I wanted to see how far their run would be on the show and since they got cut so soon, I felt like there was a lot more to be desired. I remember being so frustrated with AS3 watching it because it was formatted in a way that did not showcase the queens and their talent well and had a condescending negativity about it. Aja was the queen that carried the season for me.
7:46 during What's the T podcast Lady Bunny said the same name in the same way and NOT as a joke
i wanna know your version of top 10 fave drag race episodes and 10 worst drag race episodes...
I love Aja and Thorgy and I wish all stars 3 wasn’t so bad at least Trixie won and not Kennedy
Thorgy called it. Poor Thorgy. I love Stevie Nicks, but that is a super hard one to drag up. Everyone else got better drag characters.
Obviously this is a show and they (and the performers) conduct things in their own both chaotic and planned ways - but in my opinion, Thorgy should have at least lasted another episode and Aja was deserving of the final four. There was obvious favoritism for Bebe just because she was the original winner of the show, and the show - or the girls - had favoritism for Kennedy. Also Aja would have been the best contender to return if it wasn't for Ben's personal guilt reason for bringing Morgan back. (and we wouldn't have had that issue if Milk was kicked off in the first episode to begin with) *sigh*
Thorgy was not given a fair game. They know how talented she is but they also know she is vocal about everything and that gave them a chance to edit soundbites and mold her demise.
I feel so bad for both of them. They are on my top 10 favorite queens and the fact that they got underappreciated sucks...
Aja literally could have won the season and Thorgy had the potential to go really far.
Hope that they both get the crown they deserve on the future.
Delta, Mariah, Thorgy, The Vixen, Raja O'Harrah - the queens you mention that are know for their comments about the show - PLEASE make a video about that!
S3 all stars really had the potential to be great
Thorgy did great, the charachter wasnt easy but she got to recreate its magik
i’ve been WAITING FOR THIS ONE